For a reader hopping into an update for the first time, there is not much I can say in an introductory paragraph to explain everything needed before proceeding. The only readers able to follow are those taking the time needed to get a solid idea of the entire scope. It is probably impossible to follow unless the heraldic Coats are loaded and viewed. It would be helpful to have a photographic memory, or to at least spend some time to get to know Coats, and to understand what I'm saying about them. I did the work over years to be able to present to you the relevant Coats, and you need only decide whether I am correctly interpreting the evidence and the codes. It is far best that you load Coats on a separate browser(s) rather than clicking back and forth from the update page. It might take longer for one to read an update than the week it takes me to write it, but that's what it'll take for a solid understanding of what I'm doing. I know that few have the time to follow this in that way. My hope is...actually, I should have no such hopes as I should just allow God to do what He wants with this. My goal at this time is to discover the parent(s) of Josephs Caiaphas, and in the meantime to prove that heraldic masters and leading Templar families knew that all of heraldry had, at its foundations, Caiaphas and his circle of Christ killers. These updates are jot-down format (sub-titles don't usually reflect the roaming topics well) making it hard / impossible to have a pre-plotted storyline. I'm no longer doing final proof-reads, please excuse the imperfections / mistakes.
Iraq News: more of the depressing same. Enough said.The last update created the problem on where to trace camel liners, whether to Gamala or to Camulodunum of virtually the same time period. The Gamala of importance to me is about 125 BC, with the rise of the first known Sadducees suspect from a Sadduc character in league with a Judas, a Gaulonite from Gamala in northern Israel. Camulodunum is apparently known by that name only as per the invasion of Caesar in roughly 50 BC. I know little of this history, but was able to trace Camulodunum elements and it's neighbors / allies surprisingly well in the last update, some to the Ticino, some to Trento, and others to Albania. A later wave, perhaps, the namers of Colchester, traced to the Colapis river, where proto-Gaulonites are now suspect as the namers of that river.
There can always be multiple suspects for the same entity during any investigation. Other Gaulonite suspects include the Geloni of Ukraine, and the Geloi of Sicily that I've traced to the Galli and Galatians. The Alans of Brittany are suspect from two sources now, the Geloni and the namers of Lyncestis on the Albania / Macedonia border region. I don't know how to reconcile this problem, but it's amazing that while the Geloni lived amongst Nahorite suspects, Lyncestis is smack beside Peleg-suspect Pelagonia. In fact, the Geloni lived with the Budini so that it needs to be determined whether they were a branch of Butua/Budva.
I do not recall hard evidence in linking Budini with Butua, but I've assumed a link because Alan-related Boyds trace well to the Budini while Butua traces well to Bute (with the trace of Albanians and lake-Scodra elements to Scotland), where Boyds trace. Yet this does not necessarily mean that contact was made at Butua by the Budini. They may have been from one stock centuries earlier, merging again at some point en route to Scotland. The reason that I don't identify Butua with Budini is that Cadmus was at Butua so that its namers should have been Boeotians. The Budini may have been Boeotians...now suspect as the house of Boetus that formed a branch of Sadducees of concern.
The last update discovered the origin of Alauna (Manche) near the shores of lake Lychnidus, where proto-Sadducees are suspect. Everything is crying out that proto-Alans of Dol were amongst the constituents in producing the Israeli priesthood. This had only been a theoretical possibility until the last update. I did not know until then what route the proto-Alans (the surname) on the Po took in getting there, when I envisioned them there in the first century AD. I now see them coming up from Lyncestis because the Arms of Alauna uses a lynx. See "lynx" in the last update for a total of three of them, as well as the ancient history of the lynx line.
I feel completely sure that Alans of Dol were in Alauna, from Lyncestis, and will therefore reject, for the time being, a trace of Dol Alans to the Geloni. However, I suspect that Alans of Dol had a branch at Doly on the Ukraine-Poland border regions, suggesting a relationship with the Roxolani and the Geloni there, assumed to be old Alan cousins. Unless I can find a trace of the latter two to the Lyncestis theater, I will assume that the Alans of Dol merely merged with, but did not originate from, the Roxolani and Geloni. Herodotus said that Geloni lived in wood homes, and this expects them on the BistRITA river (Siret tributary) because the white-on-blue Rita lion holds "pieces of wood."
There are ways to solve the discrepancies, but, for now, I have much material below to go over on different topics. That problem will me a priority, in case anything crops up, and the other priority is to explain any Gaulonite relationship with Camulodunum. The Alauna elements are highly suspect to Camulodunum because its king, Caracatus, appears to have evolved into the Pendragon > Arthurian cult out of Cornwall, where Bude is located that takes its Butua elements to Bute, where we can assume Mordred settled, whom was discovered in the last update to be the river at Alauna. Hence, the Alans, Crichtons and Boyds loved Bute, yet the blonde Boyds are suspect from the blonde Budini. I don't take the Boyd write-up for fact in how it derives the surname. I take it as garbage while speaking in code for the Budini. There is no end to such garbage in heraldic write-ups, trust me, I've been uncovering it for several years.
The Boyd checks are not in the blue colors of the Stewart checks, but in the red-and-white of the Fiddle wolf heads, and of the Bus and Hamelton cinquefoil. The former is suspect with the Neuri wolf liners at Fidelow, which you can see honored in the Boyd motto, and the cinquefoil belongs to two Nahorite tribes, one suspect with Buz, viably the same stock as Budini, and the other with Kemuel, suspect with "Gamala" and/or 'Camulodunum. Therefore, the Boyds and Alans are right down the pipes of a primary agenda on my to-do list.
The Bus and Hamelton cinquefoil is used in the Arms of Leicestershire along with a "sleeve" or "maunch," code for "The Sleeve," the English Channel off of the Alauna coast. That's where Arduinici traced that lived on the Bautica river near Chives-based Chivasso. The motto in the Arms, "For'ARD For'ARD (caps mine).
The Leicestershire Arms also uses a hazel leaf for the Hazlerigg surname, very linkable to Heslington elements in Yorkshire. As I claim that Hazels and their bunch trace to Has on the Drilon river (east side of the Chives-based Cavii), which I say was part of whatever named "HASMONean," by what coincidence is there a "Maidens' head" in the Hazlerigg Crest? The Maids/Mauds are the Modi'in-suspect ones sharing a version of the MONmouth Coat. This is making the Maidens/Maddens suspect from Modi'in liners.
I've been claiming that the first Hasmonean, Mattathias, was after the namers of the Mathis river, on the south side of the Cavii, between Butua and Lyncestis. We now find a "mallard" duck in the Maiden/Madden Coat, and then Mallards (Derbyshire) use the black-on-white moline cross shared by Mathis' and Chives'.
The Hazlerigg leaves are in the colors and design that French House's once showed, while English House's were first found in the same place (Berkshire) as Modens/Modeys. What a great modincidence. The maunch in the Leicestershire Arms was from the HAStings, like the Houset and similar variations of French House's. The motto of the Sadducee-liner Seatons uses "HAZard" and "forward," the latter nearly the "for'ard" of the Arms. Hastings use their sleeve in Alan colors, and while Alans trace to "Langhe," that's where a small Monforte location is situated to which I trace the Montfort lion in the Arms of Leicestershire. I didn't know until reading the details on the Arms that the white ostrich feather belonged to John of Gaunt. Moden-related Caens (share fretty with Modens/Modeys) use white ostrich feathers.
The white, two-tailed Montfort lion is suspect in the Stack and Stock Coats, these being Traby-Astikas liners in my long-standing opinion, and then Trabys share five, white ostrich feathers in Crest with the Caen Crest. Moreover, see the "STALK code in the description of the Arms of Alauna: "Azure, a lynx courant argent between in chief 2 stalks of wheat crossed in saltire and in base 2 stalks palewise Or." The "base" code happens to get the Brunswick lions in the Base surname, and Brunswick is where I trace Alans of Langhe. The Base / Brunswick lions are in PALE (vertical format), important because Pale's use a camel in Crest. The Pale's were first found in the same place (Yorkshire) as Gellone's, and use upright lions in the colors of the same of Golans. German Base's/Bassens share black hunting horns with the Arms of Traby above, and the Base/Bassen horns are again in pale. Plus, there is a Bassania location (lower-left) at the mouth of the Mathis on this map:
http://www.tribwatch.com/mapAncientIllyrium.jpgThe Mathis is marked on this map:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b1/Roman_provinces_of_Illyricum%2C_Macedonia%2C_Dacia%2C_Moesia%2C_Pannonia_and_Thracia.jpgAs the Leicester surname uses the swan, it's a no-brainer that they trace to Ligurians of the STHENelus > Cygnus kind that Arthurian garbage writers traced to Logans / Locks / Licks...from lake Lychnidus at Lyncestis.
I have been meaning to check out the Abaeus cult of Apollo, at Phocis, beside Boeotia, but there's really nothing online about it. It was a divination school for the stupids, and what I think led to "MaccABAEUS." I wasn't sure until this moment, after loading one of the maps above at the tribwatch address. That's when I noticed a Bantia location to the near-west of Lyncestis. It recalled the Abantians of Euboea, said to be named after mythical ABAS. Euboea is beside Boeotia too, and looks very related to it. One can imagine an Abas=Abaeus link to both Euboea and the Boeotians. And so I sort of prayed, nothing reverently or serious, on what else could be found in the neighborhood to clinch the Bantia trace to Abas / Abaeus.
Then I saw Caravantis in the area of the Mathis river, to the near-east of Bassania, and it recalled the Korybantians (Trojan co-founders), whom I've always suspected as a branch of Abantians, but it was the BASSania term that took me in. Seriously, it's on the Mathis river...which I trace to the first-known Hasmonean, and here is an ABAEUS-like term right there. It's like saying that the Bassus and Bassianus surnames that I've been stressing for updates in a row were the MaccABAEUS entity all along!
The black hunting horns of the Base's/Bassens are used by Burns and Bernice's, and then the brother of Alexander Berenicianus (both Hasmonean liners) birthed Julia of Cilicia, wife of Quadratus Bassus. Were both couples of Maccabee lines? YES! For Quadratus' grandfather, Severus by surname, lived at Hasmon-like AKMONIA! I'm sure that I have this correct.
Now that Phocaeans are suspect in Maccabee make-up, let's repeat that Foggs, similar to modern "Foca," which was anciently Phocaea, shares the pierced stars of Modey-like Medleys. Foggs even share the white unicorn with ASSMANS! Foggs were first found in Kent with Amyntes-suspect Mynetts, Hamonds, and Munds.
English Assmans are very-likely using the black Pape/Papenburg talbots due to German Assmans using the Pepin bend-with-fleur. With the Assman link to Akmonia, which was in / beside the land of PAPHlagonians, its notable that I've been tracing "PEPin" and "BABENberg" to those peoples. The proto-Pepins at Akmonia could just be the central stock that traces both to Gamala and to Camulodunum. I had found that Pepin of Landen had family with names such that he was traceable to queen Bebba of the Bernicians, and this was aside from her being a Bebbanburg, and operating a Bamburg castle in Scotland, like the Bamberg location (Bavaria) of the first German Babenberg, Poppo I. The connections are obvious. Landons/LANGdons even use bears (in Burn-horn colors), a symbol of Bernicians.
The Stacks that seem honored in the description of the Arms of Alauna were first found in the same place (Gloucestershire) as Cams and Kemmis', and for the moment we might assume that they are camel liners of the Pepin kind, for Cams use six PALE bars in the same colors of positioning as the Babbwell surname that I'll assume to be from queen Bebba. This is made more interesting because I traced Kemmis' to Kemmis/Chemmis of Egypt, home of Yuya the Mitanni liner, who ended up tracing smack to Phocaea and off-shore Lesbos (Mytilene and Methimna on Lesbos). Plus, his Mitanni line was traced unabashedly (by me) to Modon/Methoni and later to Modi'in! I had forgotten that when finding above that MaccABAEUS should trace to Phocaeans.
Plus, years ago, though never stressed again, I found reason to trace mythical Aegyptus to Methoni, and then the last update found Alauna tracing to Lynceus, mythical son of Aegyptus. The Ligurians at Lacydon were founded by a combination of Phocaeans and a mythical Gyptis! Yes, it's online for all to read.
Where was I? Oh yes, the Stacks (in Bath colors) are said to have had their seat at Bath (Somerset, I assume), and then the Bath cross is of the design, and in the colors of, the CAMELford cross. The BABcocks (share the red rooster with Cocks) are also "BATcock," suggesting that Babbwells link to Stacks at Bath so that a Batcock branch of Babb liners resulted. It just so happens that red roosters are used by Aikens (oak theme, same as Alans), who are in the colors of the ACKMANs/AIKmans (oak theme), suspect with "Akmonia." The Babcock roosters are in pale so as to link again to the Pale camel. Landens (with an 'e') happen to use roosters too, and six more pale bars half in the colors of the six Babbwell bars.
In other words, it looks like Bebba-Pepin liners are linking to Bath of Somerset, and then the Pipe's, using the Pepin Coat as well as the Pepin camel, were first found in Somerset. To help clinch a Pepin trace to Babcocks/Batcocks, the Cocks share a lozengy Shield, in the same colors, with Grimaldi's, while a son of Pepin (of Landen) was "Grimoald I, Mayor of the Palace of Austrasia."
http://www.geni.com/people/Pepin-of-Landen/6000000000490564196Pepin was the first duke of Brabant, where the capital was MONS, and where the counts of that place used the three Levi chevrons (same colors, colors of Flanders). Pipe's were first found in the same place as Leavells, from a Percival of Yvery, and then Percivals share a the black bear head with Landons. Pepins are kin of Mens/Mengzes, and then Percivals share the Shield-and-Chief color combination of Mens'/Mengzes. The Percival Coat and Crest is a version of the Bellow Coat so as to trace to Bellamys of Perche. This recalls the bear paw of Bellino's.
The Babcocks use a "stag lodged," symbol of Hazel-related Islips/Haslips, which can provide yet another Has - Mon link, and then Bebba's husband, Bernician king, Aethelfrith, whose "Aethel" part is linkable to "Hazel," succeeded Hussa. "It is not entirely certain whether Hussa was the son of Ida, founder of the kingdom of Bernicia, or rather the leader of a rival Anglian faction. Little is known of Hussa's life and reign, however." Ida was the grandfather of Bebba's husband. Then, Pepin of Landen, about a generation after Bebba (born around 550 at the earliest), married Ida of Metz, her parents unknown with certainty.
Let's do some history before proceeding. Ida of Metz has been proposed as a daughter of one Arnold of Metz. In at least one ancient claim, Arnold was the father of Arnulf of Metz, but others decided that Arnulf's father should instead be a duke Bodegisel, son of Mummolin. Clicking on the Mummolin link gets one to Mummolin, mayor of the palace, and father also of duke BABon. It looks like Mummolin preceded Pepin of Landen, mayor of the palace, by about one or two generations, and there we have a Babon term in the family line that would marry Pepin's daughter, Begga. Aside from BodeGISEL, here is another son of Mummolin:
Adalgisel Grimo had a double name, such as appears occasionally in early medieval sources. Grimo is the diminutive of a longer polysyllabic name......In 1977 the gravestone of Saint Chrodoara was found in this church. Chrodoara was married to a duke named Bodegisel, a member of a north Aquitanian aristocratic family. This helped confirm previous assumptions about the membership of Adalgisel in this family whose members are identifiable by names ending in "-gisil".
It sounds like "double name" can mean that "Gisel" and "Grimo" are related terms. Gisels (Brittany) happen to be listed with Gris', suspect with the naming of Grimaldi's, and both features of the Gisel/Gris Coat can link to the same in the Monaco Coat. German Gris'/Griims clinch the link to Grimaldi's, apparently. It looks like Grimaldi's have just been found in this Bodegisel line. But wait till you find out what it looks like it comes from.
The Greys (Stack / Stiver lion?) were first found in Northumberland, domain of queen Bebba. Variations of Stivers betray Stewarts, and "Stiver" can link to garland-using Stave's / Stephensons (Grey colors) likewise first found in Northumberland. Stephens (from Brittany) were first found in the same place as Stacks and Babbwells, and moreover -- big point -- Stephens/STIVEns (Garland-related) use a "falcon" while English Bamburgs use both a falcon and a garland! Bamm-Bamm! Amongst other things, it looks like Bamburg castle can trace to the Gisel liners...that trace as Grimaldi's to the lozenges of red-rooster Cocks, kin of red-rooster Batcocks/Babcocks!
Irish Charles' show a STAVE in Crest, symbol of PilGRIMs, which can trace Carolingians, as expected, to the Bodegisel liners if Pilgrims were such. That looks right. The Irish-Charles bend gave the impression of the Arden fesse, and then French Ardens (Limousin) can be using the Hesse/Huss sun for a trace to "Hussa." As I trace Hesse's to Has, where I traced Dawsons because they share the "lodged" stag (that's what it's called, not my term) of Haslips, by what coincidence does the French Arden Chief use the same stars as Irish Dawsons??? This paragraph jibes with my findings that king Arthur / Pendragon was a Merovingians entity that founded the Carolingians, and it's now evident that the Arthurs (first found in a Bernician city) were heavily of the Pepins of Bernician ancestry. The Dawson Crest shares the gold estoile of Bute's/Butts...whom are going to be suspect from the naming of Bodegisel, father of Arnulf of Metz.
Now the Mummolin character above was a son of MUNDeric, who smacks of the Amyntes line. It was just a theory that he should trace to Amyntes, but it started to look factual upon reading that "[Munderic] married a daughter of Florentinus (born 485), a Roman senator, and his wife ARTEMia, daughter of Rusticus of Lyons. [Munderic and Artemia's daughter] were the parents of Gondulphus of Tongeren, Bodegisel, Patrician of Provence, and Mummolin, possibly mayor of the palace of Neustria."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MundericThe city of Lyon is roughly where Herod Archelaus was banished after marrying Glaphyra. She had also married the Herod-Maccabee line that went to a marriage with the ARTEMidoros line! Artemidoros was a son of Munderic-like Amyntes. It looks like we can thus find the link between the Artemidoros line and Camulodunum, if Bebba traces to that place.
Amazingly, Mumms (checks in Stewart-check COLORS) are using a Stewart-version Coat like the Boyds, as though Boyds are from Bodegisel while Mumms were from his brother.
An online article says that Mens/Mengzies were nothing besides Normans moving into Northumberland with the Norman invasion. If that's true, then they must have had kin in Northumberland of the Bebba > Pepin kind, explaining why they first settled there: "Claims that the Menzies' are descended from a mythical "Scottish" King Mainus of 33BC [somebody knew something but didn't want to spell it out aside from using myth code] have been made but may be dismissed as ill-founded in common with the ancient genealogies of some other clans. As with several old established Scots families the Menzies' were of Norman origin, descending from Robert de Maineriis of Mesnieres near Rouen in Normandy and settling in Etal, Northumberland, in 1166, the name becoming variously Meyners, Maynoeurs and Manners."
http://www.menzies.org/history/history_full.htmI had always suspected that the Mens/Mengzes motto phrase, "I zal," was code for Islips/Haslips. The Isle of Man, where Mens/Mengzes trace, is near MONA, so that one could expect the Has elements that named Hasmoneans / Akmonia in western Scotland, and Has liners had been suspect with the Hayasa-Azzi in the ARDahan theater. As a reminder, the Manns are listed with Mathuna's/Maghans (Mens / Poppins colors) and Mathie's/Maghans, traceable to the Mathis river. I trace them back to Maeonians merged with Paphlagonians. Men's/Mengzes settled Culdares (in Atholl, Perthshire), a term like the Caulder surname ("ViGILAN" motto term) using a stag head like that of the Poppin Chief...same Shield as the Mens' (Caulders are Colts/Celts of Perthshire, where Athols were first found). Culdares is in GLENYlon, and then the same Shield is used by Glenys (ABERdeenshire).
Glenys are stacked with codes, but for the present discussion, the Martel martlets are pertinent: "A silver shield with three black martlets beaked and legged red; a red chief on which there is a silver claymore (sword) and a black pennon with a staff inscribed 'bonnie' crossed in saltire." Are Glenys Hellens or Gellone's of some sort? Glenys are using a Coat version of Glenns, first found in Pavia-suspect Peebles. The chief of the Glenn clan is said to be COLban. Colchester line?
Ahh, Colbans are listed with Cobbhams while Cobbs share black-on-white martlets with Glenys and Glenns! PLUS, the Colban/Cobbham lions are in the colors of the Carrot/Carew lions so that, zowie, Colbans can trace, not just to Colchester, but to its earlier name of Camulodunum, thus tending to clinch Carrots/Carews from king Caracatus! And so Carolingians with their Pepin backbone are tracing to Caracatus!!! This is what I set out to prove on a hunch, and here we are. The COLins (said to be from "hazel-wood" haha) apparently use a version of the Colban/Cobbham Coat, but substitute black footless martlets for the black lions, and the Colin martlets are in the colors of the Joseph martlet. French Colins look like they use the bend of Joseph-beloved Charos'/Claro's (and Bonnie's?), and were first found in the same place as Chappes', Levi's...and Verels/Verona's, traced in the last update to Verulamium.
The Cope / Copp fleur are in the colors of the Bonnie fleur, and both Cope's and Bonnie's were first found in Leicestershire. Therefore we can begin to see a trace of this topic, including the Bonnie-loving Glenys, to the Colapis = Kupa river.
Oxfordshire's Bamburgs/BANburys are likely of the Baumgartner-suspect BANNers. Bamburgs/Banburys have a "falcon holding a GARland," while Falcons are suspect with Fulks of Anjou, where Vere's trace their Melusine line out of Avalon. The Vere's were claiming that some line on Bute got mixed up with the first counts of Anjou, who were the Fulks. And then the ancestry of Ida of Metz, possibly from a Bode entity, can trace to the namers of Bute. I see cousins of the Gellone > Guerin family in the Vere's of Oxford, and this can trace Guerin of Provence back to Guaire, original name of the Bamburg-castle location. Vere's traced their Mitanni line to mythical Melusine, who is in the German Babel Coat while Babbwells come up as "Babel." The Stephens and Stephensons are using what looks like the Provence Coat, and the latter two surnames use stars in Chief in the colors of the same of the Gisel/Gris Chief. It's a good bet that the namer of Bodegisel was a Bute liner.
Three out of four Bode surnames, three with blue Shields, and two white-on-blue, the colors of an unrealistic scene where Ida of Metz stands in blue feeding a young boy in silver, the colors of the boys in this Masculine Coat. I don't say this lightly. It looks like code. I have seen code in numerous artworks of important historical figures. Ida's sister was a Saint SEVERA. Ida had a son, Grimoald.
There are two Bode Coats (blue Shields) in both colors of the Bude's, Bute's/Butts and grail-using Butlers. The grail can be important because Percivals were said by Arthurian dopes to be grail liners. German Bode's/Bodens (Brunswick, like "Bryneich" of the Bernicians) are also "BOEDE," and French Bode's are the goat-using Bauts that trace to the Bouillon family at the Bautica, where the Ivrea location sits that traces well to Ivrea of Mr. Percival...in the same place as Bath, where the Bidens/Buttons, kin of Bode's/Budins, are said to have had some clergy.
The mother of Godfrey de Bouillon was, Ida. In one theory, Ida of Metz is the daughter of Arnold of Metz, and then German Arnolds use the Bouillon cross in colors reversed. The Birds/Burds use the Arnold cross in the same colors, and that should trace to Borders (Bouillon colors)...which gets us back to Somerset, location of Bath, and then the Bath cross is in colors reversed to the same cross design in one of two Bamburg Coats. A third Bamber/Bamburgh (with an 'h') Coat, in the colors of the other two, uses two chevrons in the colors of the two Perche chevrons, which traces again to bear-using Percivals of Somerset, suspect with the Landon/Langdon bear.
We now have BABcocks/BATcocks, Babbwells, and Bamburghs tracing to Bath. Why should this be? Alexander Berenicianus was the uncle of the mother of Laevillus' wife, tracing now to Somerset Leavells said to be of a Mr. Percival of Yvery. We should we expect some Arthur elements of Ivrea at Bath because the Bath cross is used abundantly in the Ivrea theater. Bets use a bend in the colors of the Batcock pale bar, and the Cardine's (encountered in the last update) use a bend in Bet-bend colors while the "Amore" motto term of Cardine's gets the Amore's of Oxfordshire suspect in using the bars of Leavells. ArBUTHnotts, first found in KinCardine. Bets are suspect in using the cinquefoils of Potters, first found in the same place as Bath-related Bidens/Buttons and Botters/Bode's/Budins. When you get to the reason for tracing Arbuthnotts to Has / Gabuleum, remember from here that nearby Butua/Budva should apply to some of the surnames in this paragraph.
Borders were first found in the same place as Tresure's (share scarlet color with Flemings), and that's important because Pepin of Landen was of the Fleming area, while Flemings use the double tressure border. Arnulf of Metz / Herstal (great-grandfather of Charles Martel) is shown in a scarlet color; Wikipedia: "[Arnulf's] father was probably Bodegisel..." Arnulf is a co-founder of the so-called Pippinids, as per his son's marriage to Begga, daughter of Pepin of Landen and Ida. Here's the family tree:
http://www.deloriahurst.com/deloriahurst%20page/1678.htmlThe giant 'A' in the Begg Coat could therefore be for "Arnulf," but then why were Beggs first found in Inverness, way in northern Scotland? Assuming that the clayMORE sword of Glenys gets Pepin kin to Moray, that's where I trace far-north Mackays (bears suspect with Bernicians at Berwick) whose "manu" motto code can be for Isle of Man, where the Gleny-related Mens/Mengzes' trace. The latter's Culdares = Atholl location is not far from Inverness, and Clays use the six pale bars of Atholls in colors reversed. Clays look like they can be Col liners.
Athols are starting to look like they can trace to AETHELfrith, Bebba's husband, but if the Claymore sword is code for Swords (trace to Northumberland) and Beggs/Baghs (Tyrol) sharing a sword in the same colors, it can trace Bebba's family to Begga, daughter of Pepin of Landen. In fact, I am already convinced that Swords were Begga liners. The Irish Colays/Cowleys (Ulster, where I traced an aspect of Eustace's) share the gold leopard "jessant" with Aide's, first found in Berwickshire! As Cowes' are the ones with the "pennant" that gets the Pennan(ts) in code with the Glenys pennan, it looks like Cowleys/Colays and Clays were merged with a branch of Cowes' (from Cowes' on the Isle of Wight), whose variations trace well to Qewe, where I trace Aide's/Ade's and Quaide's/Quade's (and Mackays/Caws)! That is excellent because Berenicianus is always figured at Qewe with his Quadratus kin.
The Kildare location of Eustace's could apply to "Culdares," especially as the Eustace Crest is a stag, symbol of Caulders and Colts/Cults. In fact, just like the Colt/Cult stag, the Eustace stag comes with a symbol at its antlers. Eustace married an Ida, perhaps traceable to Ida of Metz. Colts/Cults were first found in the same place (Perthshire) as Culdares...and Clunes' sharing the Colt/Cult pheon (in colors reversed), wherefore Clune's (Colhoons?) look like Glenn liners. The pennon of Glenys goes to Pennan(t)s, first found in the same area of Wales as Bachs/BAGHs, hmm (was this a Pepin > Begga line?).
Clune's share the black wolf with Quade's. However, the Irish Clune's, using the same Shield as the Scottish branch, show a white wolf while white-wolf Gore's share a similar motto term (traceable to Servitium near the Colapis) with Cole's whom trace together to the Colapis river. The white Clune wolf holds a trefoil, and it looks black, the color of the Clay trefoil, wherefore all of the Gleny-suspect lines here are tracing to both the Colapis / Kupa river and to Colchester. The Arms of Colchester uses a ragully cross in colors reversed from the CAMELford cross.
The Kupa river can trace to the Copps and Cope's especially due to sharing the blue-on-white saltire of Colters/Colders, thus identifying all three as Colapis-river liners. It can thus trace Colts/Celts to that river. The Kelts (Perthshire) share a black-on-white chevron with Colays/Cowleys.
Scottish Colays/Collys/Cauleys are in Eustace colors, and first found in Gloucestershire's BERKeley area while the Eustace cross is that also of the Berks/Burgo's. Scottish Berkeleys/Barkleys (patees) are in Metz colors while English Berkeleys use NINE patee crosses while there are NINE besants and a patee cross in the Metz Coat. The "confert" motto term of Berkeleys (same place as CAM / Kemmis') suggest the Comforts/Comerfort kin of CAMelfords. The nine besants of Metz' was determined as code for Muse liners on the Moselle, where Metz' are traced, and the Moselle was the location of Lorraine while the Ida whom Eustace II married was from rulers of Lower Lorraine. The "Crux" motto term of Berkeleys is starting to indicate Crociatonum lines, for the Burgo > Conteville line suspect with the Eustace cross traced to the Cotentin at Crociatonum.
The fret of Berkshire's, while traceable to Ferte-Mace off the Vire river (where I'm seeing Crociatonum), might just trace to "AethelFRITH." Ida's father was Godfrey, and the Irish Godfrey write-up traces to GodFRITH, how about that. They were first found on OFFAly, perhaps named after Offa, a Mercian king. English Godfreys, first found in Kent (i.e. same as MYNETTs, Hamonds and Munds), and using pelicans, can thus trace to the Pulcher-AMYNTES alliance, albeit Publius Pulcher (a Caepio) joined Amyntes' father, BROGitaurus. Is this tracing Ida's family to the Marsi? Was king Ida of the Bernicians a Mercian liner? There was a mount Ida at Troy, and then the big, mythical rulers of Troy were from Parium of the MARmara (sea of Mar). Marmara = Propontis is where you see PRUSA and GUS at the lower-right on this map:
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The "VIREscit" motto term Line's/Lynds, accessed from the "lined" (like "LIND") wolf of Clune's, traces to the Vire river and to the proto-Alans of neighboring Alauna. As the Brocks likewise use "VireSCIT" while PROKopps/Brocuffs/PRUSA's use the potent cross of Skits' / Skeets', let's remention the PERSEqueris" motto term of Eustace's. It looks like Eustace's and Godfreys, and Aethelfrith and Ida, can all trace to the Marmara with the Mercians. They therefore look like Mysians, the mythical Muse's, and the Metz's were on the Little Meuse river, and moreover the image of Ida of Metz identified with Masculine's. It looks like we've nailed the first Templar kings of Jerusalem from Mysians. German Line's/Linds look like they can be using the Pepin horse on the Mens / Poppins Shield.
The family of Eustace II became the first Templar kings of Jerusalem, not by a stroke of "luck." The Eustace-Bouillon family traced to Bologna, and that's where the Line's (beside the Speers) can trace because they use three Speer symbols, including the spears shared by the Bologna Pasi's. I even traced Skits to the Setta valley at Bologna aside from anything to do with Line's (they are rare in my work). The Semper's were recognized as Titus liners, and the Titus' father, VesPASIan, traced to the Pasi's while Line's use a "Semper" motto code. It's hard to argue with that, especially as Sempers are traced to be Peters while Vespasian's family was from Flavius Petro.
What do you think that MACEStus river (beside Prusa) became as far as surnames go? The Bernician / Bouillon Frith liners can be the reason that Masculine's use a fret-like object, and the boys in the Coat are in the colors of Maces'/Maceys from Ferte-Mace. Have we got this figured right? Was Aethelfrith a Macey or proto-Macey of the Ferte-Mace kind? The Maces/Macey mace is a besant, right? Should we seek Keturah's Hector / Priam line in the Bernicians and/or Mercians? The Boys were first found in...Berwickshire.
The Meysey variation in the Macey write-up gets a family first found in Gloucestershire, and then there's a Godfrey de Meysey (before 1110) in the Meysey write-up, about the time (1096-99) of the first invasion of Jerusalem by the juvenile delinquents. The Merseys are said to have moved to neighboring Worcestershire, where Ticino-river Squirrels were first found! That jibes with a Marsi trace to the Marici on the Ticino, for the Meyseys are from MARSton Meysey, what looks like a Marmara-Mysian combination. That's just to say that Marsi and Marici trace to Marmara. English Jeffreys, said to be a branch of Godfreys, were first found in Herefordshire (ditto for Jeffersons), at Worcestershire. Scottish Jeffreys look linkable to Hamonds from Hamon de Ferte-Macey, so to speak. All of this is near Monmouth, where Jeffrey of Monmouth was from, who wrote juvenile garbage on behalf of Arthurian delinquents. It looks like the Constitution of the United States was written by the same "holy" bloodline who invaded Jerusalem, and even massacred some of its Jews.
The potent cross looks like two crossed columns, and then Columns/Malcolms/MalCOMBs/MalCOME's (Colter / Cope colors) happen to use the red Colt/Celt stag heads so that even the DunKELD Scot royals (included the Malcolms) are tracing to the Colapis.
The Column/Malcolm saltire is in the colors of the Harding bend, and the latter are said to be the ancestry of Berkeleys. The "ardua petit" motto phrase of Columns/Malcolms (same place as MacArthurs) must therefore be for Harding / Hardy liners equivalent with MacArthurs, the ancestors of Campbells/CAMMELLs. That is, the Colapis liners to Colchester were merged with CAMULOdunum lines to Cammells. It's not likely coincidental that Petits share the red, upright lion of the Berkeley Colays/Cauleys, making the Malcolm royals, in spite of what we are told they derive in, suspect as Colay / Clune liners. The Cowleys/Couls ("spur rowels") with "Cole DEUM" motto use the PETIT lion in both colors, and their spurs trace well to the PATTYs that I trace to Close's (spur) at Closeburn (Nith river), home of KilPatricks/PATCHIE's, and to the Nitts/Naughts, first found in DUMfries, location of the Nith river. Nitts/Naughts and Pattys are suspect with the Shield of Saddocks, first found in the same place as Coopers.
Part of my work is not only to show connections and meanwhile show stories unfolding thereby, but to expose that heraldry is a vast system of codes that one could expect from satanists / Illuminatists / call them what you will. The "Hand holding a book" in the Cowley/Coul Crest is code for Books/Boggs but then a book is used by Scottish Reeds (same place as Cowleys/Couls) that, in their English branch, use a "copia" motto term. Incidentally, Book variations are like "Begga," and then as added evidence that she traces to Bebba, Books/Boggs (version of the Kelt Coat, shares the red Colt/Cult stag) were first found in Berwickshire! plus, another thing not intended when starting this paragraph was to find English Reeds first found in Northumberland so that they too can trace to Bebba. Scottish Reeds share the falcon with Northumberland Stephensons.
We are told that "Malcolm" means "big head," but that could be juvenile code for Biggars, first found in the same place (Lanark) as Hardys. Herod "the great" never did grow up to be a man, and the juveniles honoring his lines in heraldry were shameful. To be the sort of man that God is shooting for, you need to do more than exploit a throne, take tax money, and build your own palaces. This type of a man will be God's spit.
The Column/Malcolm saltire (Clune colors) is in the colors of the cross used by the Hardys. The ARGYLLshire location of Malcolms and MacArthurs is still suspect with Herod ARCHELaus. The Malcolm cross should be that of Coopers suspect with the mother of the first Herod, for the Yorks (Cope colors) with a "cupias" motto term use the Malcolm saltire. Wouldn't Coopers be suspect with Cope's/ Copps and therefore traceable to the Kupa = Colapis river??? There is a compelling case here for tracing MacArthurs to Herods, and Cammells to Gamala. Why are Cowie's/Covie's traced to HERDsman? Have Cowie's yet to grow up?
Note how Hardings (Derbyshire) are linkable to Bonnie's honored in the Gleny description. The Harding martlets make them linkable to French Hardie's, first found in the same place (Gascony) as Martels. It was only recently when Caepio liners were discovered hard in Bedfordshire, where Bonnie's were first found. They should be Bononia liners, suspect with the Boii of Bononia. Bone's/Bohums (Bohemian liners, apparently, of Bononia) were first found in the same place as Coopers, and use the Bonnie bend in colors reversed. I have a Copeland Coat in my files showing nothing but three gold-on-red stars, the colors of the two stars in a Hardie Coat in my files, and of the two stars in the Chief of French Bone's. As Douglas (Moray stars) are said to be descended from Hardys, these gold-on-red stars could be the so-called Moray stars as used by Sutherlands. That gets one to the Bernician-suspect Mackays/Caws of Sutherland, who were also at Moray, and some even think Mackays were MacHeths while others think MacHeths were MacBeths. It smacks of the Atha variation of the Baths of Bath, Somerset.
Malcolm III came to the Scottish throne about three years after Seward of Northumberland (can trace back to Bebba) defeated MacBeth of Moray (1054). The Metz orb might go to the "orbem" motto term of Clays, for the clayMORE sword of Glenys should be part-code for Seward of Northumberland and his sword-using Sword line (Kildare!). Reeds of Northumberland share "wings expended" with Swords, and while we saw shortly above that swords were Begga liners of the Begg/Bagh kind, we just saw Reeds linking to Rooks/Boggs. As Roets use a book, and as Roets had traced with Books/Boggs to goat-depicted Boofima > Baphomet, what about a Book/Bogg trace to the Baut/Baux surname, using a goat and tracing to the Boofima-discovered Arduinici on the Bautica? Their Ivrea location traced to Yvery, same place as where Roets were first found! Reeds and Roets both trace to Rieti at the junction of the Salto and Turano rivers, and origin of the Vespasian family.
Sewers (share gold leopard with Chives / Sarah/Saire/Sayer Crest), sharing the gold fitchee of Quints, are listed with Sutherland-suspect Shuters/Sutters. Sewers are said to be from COBBLers haha, which must trace with Kopple's/Coppels to Koplik = Kupionich. Sewards are using the Chives "cat" in purple, and were first found in the same place (Devon) as Chives'. Sarah's/Saire's (first found in the same place as Quints) use "Bear and forbear" as a motto for further evidence that Seward was a Bernician liner. As the Saire location of Sarah's (CINQUEfoils) can trace with Saure's/Saiers to the Sava river, that's where the mouth of the Colapis is.
It is being assumed here that Ida of Metz traces to Ida, first-known Bernician ruler. It is therefore no small matter that Swords were at Kildare, where the Eustace's were first found who are tracing to various Pepin / Bebba liners. The Eustace elements that became suspect with Ulster had to do with the hand symbol (of Ulster) found tracing to Eustace's, and Swords can be linked to the Irish Hand surname. Moreover, the Hardie Coat I have in my files, aside from using two stars suspect with Sutherlands stars, show a hand holding a sword pointed down, this sword being in both colors of the Sword swords. English Hands, using two features of the Eustace stag, could be using the Cope / Copp / Colter chevron for a trace to the Colapis/Kupa.
The Metz "orb" is said to be "topped with a cross," prompting a look at Topps, suspect with Dober, two miles from Caepionis-suspect Kupionich at the north side of the Cavii whom trace to Chives' and probably to the Caw-like terms we've been spotting. I trace Quintus Caepio both the Kupa and to Kupionich. Why do Swords share the Moor head with Chappes'. Topps just happen to use a gauntlet glove holding a hand (!!), and then the Clavin surname listed with Swords are expected at the Glavins (Eustace colors) who come up as "Hand."
This is a good place to mention that Scottish Kirks, using the Sword sword in both colors, have two "mum" motto terms buried, while Mumms use the Moor head too. The Kirks use a crosier while Crossier's (checks half in Mum-check colors) were found in the same place as Moor-head-using Bouillons.
Glavins/Hands are using the red-on-gold lozenges in the Arms of Thomas Randolph (Moray), and they are in the colors of the Gellone fleur. This is said because the Golans (the Guerin lion), in the same colors, use the stag exactly as English Hands, making "Glavin" suspect with "Golan." The Gaulonites were named after the Golan heights, or vice versa, and here everything is tracing to Colchester = Camulodunum.
Recalling that Camulos was equated with the God, Mars, we can actually trace the Cope's to Avezzano in the Marsi theater. That;s for three reasons at least: 1) the "Aequo" motto term of Cope's is for the Aequi peoples at the Avezzano theater; 2) the red roses on stems of Cope's are shared by Avezzano's; 3) the Cope fleur are in the colors of the Avis/Avison garbs. Then there is the "Aequo" motto term of Pennants, who are honored by the pennants of Qewe-suspect Cowes', who are a lot like "Cope," and that gets the Cope's / Copps and Avezzano elements to Qewe.
Furthermore, it can now be gleaned that Powells and Powers figure into this picture, which gets us to the theater of the welsh Bachs/Baggs suspect with German Beggs/Baghs and therefore with Begga. It starts with Hoels, the term to which Powells are said to be derived in (I may not agree, though I will entertain a Powell-Hoel merger that formed Howells), listed with HOLTZ''s (share the Tyrol stars), and then the German Tyrols are listed with BartHOLDTs. The Beggs/Baghs were first found in Tyrol. Hoels use the Powell griffin, but in red, which can match the red dragon of Cope's, and the latter use a chevron in the colors of the two chevrons of English Tyrols/Tyrells, first found in the same place as Colchester and Quints who trace to the Kupa river.
I actually traced Santa Claus to the Clausula river entertaining other surnames like Sleighs and Reins, and of course the Reins/Reno's (lozenges in the colors of the Cock / Coch / Grimaldi lozenges) were suspect with Rudolph the reindeer. Rudolphs became suspect with Thomas Randolphs sharing red lozenges with Reins/Reno's, and that can now bring the Glavin/Hand lozenges into the picture.
This is amazing evidence I did not previously have, so follow. German Tyrols/Bertholds have a "crampon" (used also by Dutch Reeds) that must be code for Crampons/Crampton, like the Krummpel variation of Krume's, from Krume, not many chimneys distant from Koplik = Kupionich on the Clausula, and the Cope's likely trace to Kupionich if it is indeed of the Caepionis bloodline. It was reasoned that the gift-giving theme of Santa Claus was for the Caepio gold shared with many others. I now find that Sleighs use OWLS, likely code for Howls/Owls! Plus, the juveniles tell us that English Tyrols derive in "one who PULLs on the reins" (hahahahaha)!! English Tyrols are traced to a lord of POIX while Powers (stag, no red nose), who have a branch sharing the Shield of Palins/PAWLeys (POWELL lion), are traced to POIS location (Picardy). Pulls are listed with Poole's, first found in the same place (Dorset) as a Poole location, and Palins/Pawleys. One can see that everything is related in all this. The lion in the Crest of Sleigh's, in the colors of the Monk lion, even holds a gold fitchee, symbol in the Quint Crest. Sleighs were first found in Derbyshire while Derbys use the Chimney antelope.
Santa Claus was an invention of juveniles respecting bloodlines. Only a mind not yet blossomed into manhood could respect bloodlines. Such a mind has yet to break out of folly. Manhood is not to be defined by those who can kill without conscience; quite to the contrary, manhood is in the one who would never kill another man no matter what the grievance (unless death is deserved as capital punishment). Caen was no man when he killed for nothing, and set the trend for all other juveniles. The child in a man's body says that his bloodline is best, and he fornicates with his sister whom he calls his wife, and all mankind is poorer for it when they rise to brute power, willing to kill father or mother for a throne...because they have yet to become men. For this cause, in making men, Jesus came teaching. All the better for women if men be true men.
The Pull/Poole motto respects the Pollets/PAWLets of Hampshire, beside Poole, and the Pollets/Pawlets are using the Aude/Ode swords (Ottone colors), I gather, respected by the Pollock motto.
The Monks are pointed out due to the Sleigh Coat looking like a version of the Monk Coat, and while there are hundreds of similar Coats, Monks (view as Grimaldi's of Monaco) are yet likely due to the Cock / Coch / Grimaldi lozenges of Reins. As Batcocks/Babcocks trace both to Cocks and the Bebba, note that the Beggs (Grimaldi colors) with the giant 'A' have a hand in Crest holding a gold cross not quite the gold Sleigh cross, but the picture looks the same. The Gris'/Gisels had looked like Monaco's, and Begga was sister to Grimoald (mayor of the palace) while she married the Gisel liners from Bodegisel.
What you are about to read was very gratifying. After writing all of the above aside from the last paragraph, I went looking for a surname that honors Ida of Metz. The Ides'/Ide's were viewed, and I thought something relevant was found due to the red eagle (colors of the Ferte eagle) and the "fecIT" motto term, for she is better known as, Itta/Itte. But Ide's are properly the Hyde's, and, drats, their gold-on-blue lozenges were recently seen, but I could not recall where. I spent considerable time re-finding the surname, and it happened to be the Dutch Bode Coat!!! But before seeing the Dutch Bode Coat, the English Bode's/Botters loaded, and there was a red eagle!!! It was stunning, in both colors of the Ferte eagle. It looks like
Botters have been dealt with for years, and here they prove to be the Bodegisel line, and moreover this proves that the nine witch's of Bute were Muse liners, now to be clinched as the Metz-line "Muses." The fact that Dutch Veys (spur) share a boot with French Masseys/Massa's (no longer shown) speaks to the chief witch of Bute, Morgan le Fey. Dutch Bode's are also "Boddes" and similar variations suggesting the Bottis surname (Cremona), with stars in the colors of the Italian-Botter star. The latter's bend with central star is linkable to the same of Spurrs, and the pierced Spurr star looks like the Macey star.
The Pelicans of Godfreys happen to be in the colors and format of the Capone Coat, and Publius Pulcher was thought to be a son of Servilia Caepionis, daughter of Quintus Caepio the Elder (Quintus Caepio the younger also had a daughter, Servilia Caepionis). This explains why we are finding the Quint Crest playing in a few surnames at the current discussion. German Heids happen to use an arrow that became suspect with Lurco, father-in-law of Appius Pulcher. Heids use a bend in Bet-bend colors, which are the colors also of Bedfords. The Bets can be figured as prime players with the Ida-to-Ida line due to the Meyseys and Botter-related Potters sharing their cinquefoils.
There are people today, and in the past, who knew their heraldry much better than I, for they have written records of why one Coat develops into another, and they know at each marriage where the Coats transfer. This is all recorded someplace. There must be massive works in this regard. But have you noticed that you never find the houseofnames write-ups linking one Coat's symbols to another surname in order to make kinship links? That's because they don't want us to toy with this; it's "sacred" territory for the juvenile delinquents. It's the Spirit that counts, not the blood.
I can glean that the Meyseys (same place as Samsons) are related to Samson-related Eatons (same place as le-Meschin and Maceys) who are in-turn merged with English Hykes/Hacks who were of the Hicks of Clapton, explaining why the Meysey dragon head is split in the colors of the split Clapton wolf head.
Bedfords are likely using the Quint lion paw that holds its gold fitchee, and Ide's/Hyde's were first found in Bedfordshire, perhaps another Bode liner. Bonnie's were first found in Bedfordshire, and then Bone's/Bohums share the Botter / Spurr bend. To find another hand holding a fitchee, this time a Negro hand, see the Godfrey Crest, and while there, check out the "Deus" motto term, one used by Ide's/Hyde's...meaning that we do have a link between Ida of Metz and Ida, mother of Godfrey de Bouillon. The Bouillon's use a Moor head so that there is no misjudging the Moor-using Godfrey surname for anyone but Godfrey de Bouillon.
The "PerSEQUERIS" motto term of Eustace's can also be code for Segni's/Segurana's and Seconds/Segurs, and it just so happens that while the moline of Segni's/Segurana's traces to the same of Justine-honoring Sibal(d)s (from Cibalae, home of Justine's husband), the Justine-honoring Sire's/Sirets use the Ide / Bode lozenges, I must now presume. It can be argued by the Valentin Coat that Sire's are a branch of Squire's/Squirrels.
With the trace above to Cocks expected in Liguria, lets add that the Ide's / Bode lozenges can be those of Nagle's for a trace to Oneglia. As Nagle's are also "Angulo," it speaks to the ANGLO-Saxons that took the Aethel name of Aethelfrith. Angels/Angle's likewise use the Nagle lozenges in colors reversed). German Angels (keys) were first found in Tyrol, which is in Austria, where Metz's were first found. The "super" motto term of English Angels is suspect with the Insubres that I think named Innsbruck, at Tyrol. But the trace to Oneglia, because it was also called, Imperia, is of the Imperi "Africans" (they may have been Berbers) that ran the Boofima cult, and we saw that cult tracing to Begga, daughter of Ida of Metz. Years ago, I traced Boofima on a whim to Botters. How about that.
But I can't get everything right. Where facit-like motto terms were traced to Faucets, it may now be correct to trace them to a Face-Ida combination. Hobbits use "facit" and Scottish Beards, "fecit." Hobbits were first found in the same place (Norfolk) as Seagars. The Face's/Fessys happen to be traced in their write-up to Burghs, and that square's with the Burgh cross used by Eustace's. The Face's/Fessys happen to use a "SIGNo Vinces" motto phrase for Sengi/Segurana liners to Vinkovci = Cibalae. Plus, Godfeys are using the VINCE/Vinch griffin, by the looks of it. Justine of Picenum was in the 5th century, BEFORE Pepin of Landen, before queen Bebba. What could this mean?
Why do Face's/Fessys share the CAMELford cross? As the Face/Fessy motto is something supposedly spoken by Constantine I, note that his mother, Helena, is in the Arms of Colchester = Camulodunum. It tends to verify that Face's/Fessys, honored in many leopard faces, and probably in the fesse generally, are using the Camelford cross. It's used also by Mea's/Meighs who look like they can be Meysey liners. The nails in the Arms of Colchester are for Nagle/Nail liners, right? If so, then the Nagle lozenges link well to the Ide/Hyde lozenges. Constantine is suspect as the root of the Burgo > CONTEville line so that Face's/Fessys must with certainty apply to a Constantine line.
English Constanine's (BERKshire) use six fleur-de-lys in the colors and formation of the six Basing eagle's. The latter were brought up as per the BASINGstoke location (Hampshire) of the Saxonite Poppins/Pophams. These surnames were first found in the same place as Meysey-related Bode's/Botters and Potters. BasingSTOKE was earlier (870 AD), BASENgum. The Stoke's are suspect with Astikas...of Vilnius, the Arms of which is where the Sire/Siret Coat and Justine of Picenum traces.
The Constantine and Basing Coats above are in the colors of the three lions in pale of Carrots/Carews, and then Irish Constantine's use three lions in pale themselves, thus tending to clinch as Carrot trace to Caracatus of Camulodunum. The Carrot write-up traces to a marriage with Mohuns (lion's paw in Crest), suggesting a branch of Irish Maghans/Manns/Mathuna's/MOHANS likewise using three lions in pale. The related Scottish Mathie's/Manns'/Maghans use a "Fac et" motto phrase.
The Irish Maghans/MATHuna's are said to be from Corca Baisgin, smacking of Crociatonum and the neighboring Bessin. The arm-with-sword in that Maghan Crest is even like the one in the Bessin and Biston Crests. This is new to me, and it traces very well to Bassania at the MATHis river! CLINCHED. Compare "Baisgin" to "Basengum" so that Basings can also trace to Bassania. Compare "Vesci" in the Face/Fessy write-up to "Baisgin" as a possibility.
The Mathie gyronny is in the colors of the split Shield of Irish Constantine's. Mohuns/Moyne's ("vincit" motto term) are also "Mund," and were first found in the same place (Kent) as Munts and Mynetts. The "VerITAS" motto term of Mohuns (besants) is now suspect with "Itta." Note "VincIT." Mohuns use "base" in their description, and Base's/BAISe's also use lions in pale. Pale's are the ones with the camel, shared by Pepins that are a branch of Poppins at Basingstoke. It looks like Bassania's Albanians (if that's what they were) are tracing to Camulodunum.
What sun god did Constantine I worship? He had the sun god on his coins. I read that he minted the sun god on his coins after he claimed to become a Christian. He came to power about a century after emperor Heliogabalus, the latter descended from Julia Bassianus Maesa. Why did the Roman Catholic church, given life by Constantine, come to use a round wafer as symbol for the "body of Christ"? Or, what founded the Catholic orb (whatever it's called in Catholic circles, I don't know, but heraldry calls them "orbs")? The orb-using Metz's look like they are using a besant for Bassianus liners, and as Metz's come up as "Metts," they are now suspect, as per the above, as Mathis-river liners, perhaps from the Massi/Mattis surname that could trace to Julia Maesa. The Metz's are even said to be from "messer," the German word for 'knife," but if that sounds ridiculous, I would suggest that it's code for Massars, who were first found in the same place (Lucca) as Botters!!! About 20 miles from Massa, there is a Massaro location on my atlas at the northern outskirts of Pisa. Let me repeat that French Masseys/Massa's/MASSERs once showed the boot; they now show crescents in the colors of the Luna crescent.
German Messers/Messens/Messe's were first found in the same place (Austria) as Metz's. They too are said to be from messer = knife. They show a large, red castle very linkable to the red towers of English Thors/Tours, who are said to be of Martins of Tours, and then French Martins (Martin of Tours) are shown with virtually the same, large castle design. "Martin" is a version of "Martel," we are told, and so Martins are suspect with Charles Martel, descendant of Ida of Metz'. It's making Martins suspect from Mercians. English Messers are the Messier's/MERSsers that, due to the French Messeys/Messier's using the flag of Mercia, tend to trace Metz liners to Mercians! Charles Martel was a Mercian liner to Martins merged with Massey liners, explaining the hammer term.
Compare German Martins to Spanish Luna's (same red Shield, same white Chief at the base of Shield), for Messeys/Massa's use the Luna crescent. Irish Martins are now suspect with the Bute estoile for linkage to Mr. Bodegisel. Spanish Martins share eight-pointed stars with Bottis'/Bota's. There are both Swedish Martins and Swedish Thors.
It's code-suspect that the Angels -- who link by their lozenges to ITTE of Metz -- are traced, of all things, to "MESSENger." There is a Messenger surname first found in Gloucestershire, not only where the Cam, Kemmis, and Colay surnames were first found that can trace to Camulodunum, and not only where Macey-related Meyseys were first found, but where KITT-related KITE's (tulips) were first found that use what should be a version of the Ide/HYDE and Dutch-Bode Coats.
Repeat from above: "Oxfordshire's Bamburgs/BANburys are likely of the Baumgartner-suspect BANNers. Bamburgs/Banburys have a "falcon holding a Garland," while Falcons are suspect with Fulks of Anjou, where Vere's trace their Melusine line out of Avalon." It just so happens that German Angels, who can trace easily to Angers/Anjou, use "a crowned silver lamb, holding a silver banner." It's clear that the German Angels, first found in the same place as German Thors, are honoring Thors in their Crest: "The TORso of an angel dressed in gold."
To link the Angel / Hyde lozenges to those of Thomas Randolph, suspect in my view from Ranulph le Meschin, follow the "baston" symbol of Angels to French Bastons/Batons, suspect with Bassianus elements of the Bessin/Beaston kind, and note the black bats, the only symbol, of English Bastons, first found in the same place as Bude, and near Baths and Battins of Somerset. The Baths are the ones using the Randolph cross because Randolphs use a black bat. This is the cross of Face's/Fessys now tracing to Ida of Metz. Then, note the "super" motto term of the same Angels/Angle's, for Supers share the black-on-white saltire of the bat-using Bats.
One way to clinch the Massey fleur in the Crone/Croom Coat is by noting how it comes up as "Crine," for the Masseys share the pegasus with Angel's/Angle's while the latter call it "crined." The Crine/Crone chevron looks linkable to the Arnold chevron. Crine's were first found in the same place (Herefordshire) as Jeffreys and Jeffersons, where Meyseys moved to, and Jeffersons share the Messey/Messier / flag-of-Mercia saltire, and even surround it with besants. Jeffersons thus look like Metz liners without doubt, tracing to both Ida's. As per the JEPHson variation, the Welsh Jefferson Coat looks linkable to the Greys and JOPlins, both first found in Northumberland.
Long before this investigation, Heids had become suspect with Heidlers/Heiders, and consequently with Hiedler/Hitlers (Munich). I did trace Adolf Hitler's mother to Maschi's/MASKALys, and here Itta of Metz has traced well to Masculine's without any thought on Maschi's or Hitlers. The Hitler idea cropped up only now, after writing all the above. I was just looking for other Ida- / Itta-possibilities. I had traced the diagonally-split Hiedler/Hitler Coat to the same in the Arms of Zurich, and here I find Iths and similar variations in a Swiss Hitt/Hittier surname. Amazingly, I had traced the Hiedler/Hitler Coat to Hectors/Heckie's, for both use the sun as well as white-and-red bendy, and here we find the Iths/Hitts using a Shield full of bendy in those colors, as do Hectors. This find is not long after suggesting an Itta trace to mount Ida at Troy, where Hectors can obviously trace! TROJANS were at the Bernicians / Mercians, apparently. And Trojans of the Hector kind trace back to Hyksos with the Mus household, regardless of considerations on the Heckie variation of Hectors. I am very sure that this was the Keturah-Abraham line.
Mythical Ector of the Arthurians was made father of Kay/Cai, traceable to Qewe/Que, at Kizzuwatna where the Heka Khasewet must have settled who had been the Egyptian Hyksos. Beside the (H)Eectors of Angus, the family of Adam KilconQUHar, whose line was in the Adams/Caws. I get it. Qewe, whatever it was called in those days, must have became the land of Berenicianus Maccabees, the proto-Bernicians.
Let's look at some Adam Coats again; at least three traced to Adam, father of Thomas Randolph, and the latter's lozenges just became suspect with the lozenges of the Ida line. Adam married Carrick, and Carricks trace to Caracalla, whose mother was sister to Julian Bassianus Maesa. If Constantine I does not trace to the Maesa > Heliogabalus line, then perhaps to Caracalla's mother, a Bassianus. Adams/Caws were of KYNEmund, a term linkable to the Kay/Key surname and it's motto, and thus traceable immediately to Qewe. The alternative father of mythical Kay was CYNer so that we are right back to the Hyksos>Trojan line to Bernicians / Mercians once again.
Irish Adams share the Jefferson motto, and so we are off to a great start. The Crest shows a "bleeding heart" in front of a gold fitchee suspect above with Ida liners. The lone, red star of Borderlands Adams/Caws could thus be the Botter / Bottis/Bota star, now traceable to Bodegisel. The Kodros > Keturah fish traces to the one of Bute's/Butts/Boets, and so Bodegisel is a Sadducee suspect of the Boetus kind. The Borderlands is where Bernicians operated, and where one finds Berwickshire. German Adams use the sun as well as what could be the Massi/Mattis eagle.
Italian Adams use a DEMI eagle, in the colors of the Vienna eagle, colors reversed from the Ferte eagle, and if the Vienna surname goes to Vienna-Isere, the bleeding HEART becomes suspect with Herod Archelaus of Vienna-Isere. Herod's surname was from Comana, beside Qewe, and then Adam's mother was a Comyn that traced with the green Adam cross to the Arms of Como province. Demys happen to be listed with LeMAIS'/DuMAIS'/DuMAYs, very linkable to Meysey variations / locations. It was determined in the last update that Adam married a Squirrel liner from the Ticino, and so this would be a good place to repeat that Valentins use squirrels in the colors of the Herod-related Lyons and Lannoys. The latter share the green lion with sun-using Tracks/Triggs while Angels/Angle's translate their motto, which includes "antiQUAS," with a track term.
It just so happens that the Mumm and Boyd checks are in the colors of the same checks of two Mark surnames, for a great means to trace Adam to the Ticino-river Marici. German Marks even share a demi eagle with Adams on a Shield having a similar look. Later, when I get to the Tacks/Thackerys, I ask whether they use the Adam spear. Yes, and excellent, for that moreover tends to reveal that Tacks/Thackerys are Ticino-river liners, as expected with Decks and Tecks. Still more, it just so happens that while the Shakespeare spear is in the German Mark Coat, the Shake's are also "SHACKERLY," suggesting a branch of THACKERY. The Shake's (molehills) even tell that the first-known by that surname was Adam de Shakerley in about 1200.
Two or three updates ago, before finding Mummolin in this update, I wrote down as part of a future agenda to tell about the Mumms, because I deciphered them in the Leavell-suspect Lawler write-up, where it traces the surname to "mumbler." Sometimes I have a keen sense for these things, but let's add now that the same write-up traces Mumms to "BABBLers." Is that not too-much delinquency to handle? Lying through their teeth, they make sport of the reader, and confess their buffoonery. Part of my Mum agenda was to show that the Lawler leopard faces are in the blue color of the Jefferson leopard face, but at the time, I didn't know that Jeffersons were going to work into this investigation seeking Bebba links to Ida.
I'm very excited about this new understanding. This plugs a mystery gap of history in early British times, and even identifies the Bernician nature of Carolingian ancestry. Pepin's mother is unknown, which allows his trace to Bernicians. The whole point of this is to suggest the first-century Maccabee line to queen Bebba's husband, and to discover what Bebba was from if not from Bernicians. Her Bamburg castle is thought to be named after her, but that seems incorrect. If I was correct to trace German Bamberg to PAMphylia, that's at the Lycaonia area, where we could find Paphlagonians, and Lycaonia is where the Brogitarus line to a marriage with Berenicianus was traced. The Masculine's looked like Spinks in the last update, and so if it's correct to identify the image of Ida feeding a boy as code for Masculine's, one could trace her to the sphinx in the Brogitarus-suspect Prokopp/Brocuff/Prusa surname. What were the branches of "Prusa"?
Let's go back to the Oxfordshire Bamburgs/Banburys. The beaver in the Arms of Oxford must be code for Beavers/Bebers, first found in Berkshire (beside Oxford), and the German Beavers (Bavaria, location of Bamberg) have variations like German Babels. In Chief, Berkshire Beavers share the red-on-gold lion of the Guerin Chief, and have a fesse in Hazel / Dussel-fesse colors, making them suspect as a Has line with the Modens/Modeys of Berkshire. Bebba's AETHEL-named husband may himself have been a Hazel liner, for Hazel-related Heslingtons were of Seward of Northumberland, and that's where Bebba and her husband ruled. Moreover, Aethel names were later found in the Wessex Saxons, who used a gold wyvern dragon as their emblem, which we find in an Italian Arnold Coat; we could therefore assume that it's related to the Guerra wyvern. Compare the boy-using this Masculine Coat to the Arms of Wessex Royals. There are fleur-de-lys ends on the Wessex cross, and it's in the colors of the Mercian saltire, which is the Messey/Messier saltire too.
Recalling Babon, brother of Bodegisel, let me record the Babon/Baven surname.
As Melusine is in the Arms of Warsaw, while Warsaw is the Masovia capital, while the dukes of Masovia used the Drake wyvern in the same colors, the fact that Sheriffs of Warwickshire use the Beaver/Beber fesse is conspicuous. I trace Warwick to "Warsaw." Sheriffs use "Esse" in their motto while German Hesse's/HESSELs (Sheriff colors) come up as "Huss," and so here is a possible explanation for the German-Babenberg link to the earlier Bebba Bebbanburgs. That is, Hussa, one of the first-known Bernicians, may have been a Hesse liner. As the Hesse/Hessel/Huss Coat uses nothing but a giant sun, it became suspect with modern Has, very near the ancient Gabuleum suspect with the El-Gabal sun god. But compare the Hesse sun with the Metz Coat (same place as Hesse's) using a giant, Catholic orb, a giant besant in this case, and circled by besants.
There are a total of nine small besants when one includes the one on the patee cross, or nine if one counts the eight along with the giant one, while nine is a symbol of the nine witch's on Bute (encoded as "Avalon" of Apollo), and the nine Muse's of Apollo. See the Catholic-style besant in the Crest of Avery's, first found in Northumberland. Metz is on the Moselle = Little Meuse river. The gold Metz patee must therefore be of the gold ones in the Meuse/Muse/Meaux Chief, where we find six pale bars half in the colors of the same of Babbwells/Babels. The latter uses a black eagle, known symbol of Charlemagne.
I have a Charles Coat in my files (fully in Carrot/Carew colors) with a black spread eagle and a black boar head. In this picture, black boars go to the Booth boar because I've read that Bothwells/BODuels are named after Bute. The Bothwell/Boduel Crest has a "A BOY pulling down a green pine tree"!!! That's proof-positive that the boy in the Ida-of-Metz image is a line related to Bodegisel, and it thus traces his line to Bothwells/BODuels!!! Excellent key.
Some thought that Bodegisel was the same as a Bobo, "nephew of the deacon Adalgisel Grimo," son of Mummolin. The Italian Boy/BOVE/Boetti surname using the bull. Here's the Bobo surname (Sardinia) with two bull heads, each in different colors. Here's a Bovo surname from Marne / Lorraine that likely applies, using nothing but a chevron. The Demy's/Dumays use nothing but a chevron, and then the Mumms use a DEMI Moor. SURPRISE: Bodegisel was "married to Chrodoare, Abbess of Amay," and then the Arms of AMAY are in Demy/DuMAY colors. The Arms uses the Meuse Shield, red Chief and blue-on-gold pale bars together, and, ZIKERS, the three blue bars can also be found (different positions) in the Babbwell/Babel Coat! Amay, on the Meuse, is less than 20 miles from Landen. Reminder: Meuse's and Metz's share the gold patee cross.
It just so happens that the Amay/Amy surname shares bear heads with Landons, but in the design and colors of the Berwick bears heads! Amays/Amys are said to have been lords of BOTienne castle in Cornwall, what a bodincidence.
Why do Mumms use a demi Moor? What Moor entity was in Amay? Recalling that English Amore's/AMOORE's / Damorys are suspect with Leavells, let's repeat that Italian Amore's (suspect with the Annas / Tease/Tigh star) were first found on Sardinia, where Bobo's (and Avezzano's) were first found. The Amore talbot head is even linkable to the same white one of English Barrels. This tends to reveal that the Marina's, using the nebuly pattern of Amore's, are named after "Marne" elements. That could trace the Leavell nebuly to Marne too.
As we're dealing with Merovingians in this part of the discussion, let's repeat that their ancestry traces to Marsi at the Avezzano theater. Merovingians were suspect with the Caepio treasure out of / at Mont Pilat.
Here's on Mummolin's father and his Marne estates:
Munderic (died 532/3) was a Merovingian claimaint to the Frankish throne. He was a wealthy nobleman and landowner with vast estates in the region around Vitry-le-Brule (Vitry-en-Perthois now) near Chalons-sur-Marne. The chief source for his life and deeds is Gregory of Tours.
PERTHois can trace to Perta, where I traced the Amyntes>Artemidoros line on maybe a little more than a calculated whim. CHALONS-sur-Marne starts to look like Colchester liners / Gaulonites. It can't be coincidental that French Brule's (Champagne) use pheons in the same colors as Pilate's...and Clune's, first found in PERTHshire (!), and in colors reversed to the pheon of Colts/Celts, first found in PERTHshire!! That is a new discovery right here, that Perthshire traces to the namers of Perthois.
Chalons-sur-Marne is about 35 miles from Bar-le-Duc, and the latter is about 10 miles from Ligny-en-Barrols (itself 50 miles from Metz). Barrels were first found in Dauphine, location of mount Pilat. It must be one grand coincidence, or a reflection of the truth, that while I trace "Merovee" to "Merops" of Kos, the Barrel Coat shares white-and-red bendy with the Kos'/Kosinski's.
I don't know off-hand what geography Lower Lorraine applies exactly to, but as that's where the family if Ida of Bouillon ruled, note that Welsh Chalons (beside the Jeffreys / Jeffersons) are substituting "cherubim" on what would otherwise be the pelican-using Geoffrey Coat.
Surprise. Chalons were first found in Powys, where the Clements/Clermonts' were first found that use the Marina nebuly in the same colors! That not only traces Welsh Chalons to Chalons-sur-Marne, but clinches the Marina trace to "Marne," and makes it highly suspect with "Myrina" on Lemnos. That claim is made aside from the further evidence in the besants of the Clement/Clermonts Chief, found in the Chief of Clairs, first found in Limousin, a place founded by Lemovices, known to me to be from Lemnos! The reason for knowing it is due to neighboring Santones that trace to Sintians of Lemnos, and then cherubs, which are in the Chalon Coat, are used by English Saints (!), important because Santones named the city of Saintes. And that's why one Saint surname is listed with Sinclairs. This make the Clair leopard, and many others, suspect with Dionysus (the juvenile delinquent of the Galli perverts) whose symbol was the leopard skin. The Sinclair rooster had traced to the rooster of Gallura in northern Sardinia.
The cherubs in the Metz-colored Saint Coat are BOYS, aren't they? They look like three besants, symbol in the Metz Coat.
The other French Clairs were first found in Brittany, which recalls that Mumms are using the Stewart checks. But if I was correct to trace the Stewart checks to Massi's/Mattis' (where "Metz" can trace), and to the same-colored ones in the Arms of the rulers of Massa, then the Mumm / Boyd partnership can trace identically to the Botters = Butteri "cowboys" of western Italy. In other words, that's where Bodegisel's name should trace. And recalling that Botters trace to leopard-depicted Boofima, let's add that BodeGISEL traces to Grimaldi's of Liguria, where Imperia is located. Let's also add that while Baphomet was a Templar god, the Sinclairs were chief Templars.
The Bars at Bar-le-Duc, and the Barrol / Barrel liners, should trace to Bar, near Butua, right?
The others using a cherub are Tacks/THACKERY, like "Zachary." The latter is listed in the SachVERALL surname. It looks like Sakarya elements, but then Kybele, the goddess of Dionysus, was on the Sakarya. Is that the Adam arrow in the Thackery Coat?
I've just realized that the Very/Verrier lion is the Carrot/Carew lion (Carrots, a line of Windsors, were suspect with Caracatus, king of Camulodunum). Scottish Very's (plough) are listed with Fairie's suspect with Melusine the "Faerie princess." This recalls last update's find that VERULaMIUM (Camulodunum setting, suspect with Carrots), now St. Albans, suggests the Albans surname with a bend in colors reversed to the same of Were and the Oxfordshire Iverys.
VERULamium became suspect with the Verel/Verona/Vair/Ver surname from the Ver river through Verulamium. It traces Vere's to the naming of that place, and for me, tentatively, at least, I'm tracing that river to the Terentia-Varro family because the Trent river was an aspect of the Camulodunum investigation. In order to trace Melusine from the Ver river, go forward to Inger the Varangian, husband of Melissena Rangabe. "Inger" would be suspect with INGelger, founder of the Anjou/Anger Fulks, and perhaps Ingelger was of the Angulo/Nagle / Angel bloodline. IMMEDIATELY after writing this paragraph to this point, I inserted the Bothwell paragraph above without knowing, until the Bothwell Coat loaded, that it's the Verel/Verona Coat!!! Zowie, that traces Ver-river lines to Melusine of Bothwell-related Bute! It's suggesting that Varangians, and therefore the Varni on the Warnow river, developed from this river. IN FACT, the Charles-Coat bend is in the colors of the Varn bend. It's looking like the naming of Charles Martel goes to the Carian-suspect namers of Caracatus out of Massa-Carrara.
Here's the Coat of Bute-related ArBUTHnotts (Kincardine), with what should be the Comfort / CAMELford peacock in Crest. This suggests that besant-using Manders, who share an Arbuthnott motto phrase, are kin of peacock-using Manners/Maness' (Northumberland again), and they share the red Chief of Pepin-beloved Men's/Mengzes' and Saxonite Poppins/Pophams (of Basingstoke). It's the "pristina" motto term of Poppins that is like "Pressina" and similar variations given as the mother of mythical Melusine.
Compare the English Charles Coat to the Poppin / Mens Coat. That would make the six Basing eagles (in the colors of the eagle on the Charles Coat above) the personal eagle of Charlemagne. It looks like the Suffolk Charles are linkable to the Suffolk Blois'.
Arbuthnotts are named partly from an "Aber" entity (see black boar of Ebers), which sort of Hebrew-suspect term can expect the formation of "BERenicianus." ABERdeen seems likely for the Aberbuthnotts (because Kincardine is in Aberdeen). See Kincardine's and Cardine's/CAWardens in the last update for links to Leavells and Caiaphas liners of the Cowie/Covie kind. The latter (Kincardine) trace likely to the Cavii (beside or even in Krume), and it just so happens that the Arbuthnott crescent is the only symbol of the Krume surname (Hamburg, beside the Varni), suspect with Krume, smack beside modern Has. The Trips of Hamburg have been traced to the namers of Tropoje, upstream from Has and Krume on a neighboring river. The Gris'/Griims (not known until this update) were first found in Hamburg too, which I did not know when tracing the Krume's (Hamburg) in conjunction with Grimaldi's to Krume.
Downstream on the Drin / Drilon river from Hasmonean-suspect Has and Gabuleum is Bassania, a prime Maccabee suspect now, but linkable to the Base surname using the lions of Bernicia-suspect Brunswicks. German Langs (pelican) were first found in Luneburg, and are highly suspect with Brunswick-Luneburg, and then bear-using Landons are also "LANGdon. It traces them to Montferrat. One can trace the Mathis river at Bassania to the Massi/Mattis surname, whose checks (in Fer/Ferrat check colors) were used by rulers of Massa-Carrara, the place suspect with the origin of Caracatus of Camulodunum. This is where the Pepin camel may come in, from a Caracatus line to Bebba. Near Massa-Carrara was Luna, the origin of Luneburg, I was able to discover, and Luna's use crescents in colors reversed to the Bamburg/Bamberg crescents.
Why should Bamberg elements go to Massa-Carrara? The black horse head (one showing fully identical in the Este Crest) in the Baum Crest can reveal linkage to Maria of Este at Massa. German Bamburgs/Bambergs ("triANGULar bend" may be for Angulo's = Nagle's) use "Baum" variations that struck me years ago as a surname to be depicted by heraldic bombs, and one "fire bomb" was just come across in the last update, in the Crest of Gellone-related Gilans/Gillions, what a guerincidence. The Fire unicorn is in the colors of the same of Pepin- and PAPENBURG-related Assmans! The one Assman Coat reveals the Massey fleur. (William Gellone is thought to be father of Guerin of Provence under discussion.)
The Gilans/Gillions (same Shield as Gellone's) are traced to a "lad," which can be code for the Masculine boys because Ladds/Ladons (Somerset again) happen to use a version of the Meschin/Masculine Coat. Bassania should trace to the Bessin, home of Meschins, and they descend from Malahule (Rollo's uncle) suspect in the Malaspina surname of Maria of Este at Massa. While Rollo's use "passe" as likely code for the Passe/Pascal surname sharing the Bamberg/Banbury cross, the French Baums above (in Hazel colors) use "pas," and then German Baums (besants), first found in the same place (Austria) as Hesse's'/Hessels (no small point for tracing to Hussa), share crossed spears (FOUR of them, in the same colors) with Pasi's/Pascels. German Baums even show the Massi/Mattis eagle, which is also on the Italian Luna Coat, perhaps using the Popoli Shield, for Pepoli's were first found in the same place as Pasi's/Pascels. And that place was Bologna, home of the Boii, wherefore lets add that the Pasi/Pascel spears are in the colors of the Masculine boys.
Gilans came up in the last update as per a "ViGILANs" motto term suspect with the "vi" motto term of Chives', and here we find a "vigila" motto term in an Arnold surname using what looks like a version of the Chives "cat."
Spanish Luna's, sharing the crescent of the Italian Luna's, have a Chief at the BASE of the Shield. Here's from the last update, noting that Biens use the Leaves/Leve Coat sharing bees with Bessins: "The Bien Chief is at the bottom of the Shield, called, the base, which may indicate code for the Bessin-suspect Base's. German Martins are another surname using the Chief at the bottom of the Shield. It just so happens that French Biens and French Martins / Martels [and MARTELS] were both first found in Gascony. Then, the German Dykes/Dickenhausens (Saxony) likewise use a Chief at the base, and it's gold, like the Bien Chief-at-base." Carrots/Carew's, suspect with the Levi lion's in pale, use a "bien" motto term.
The Baums use a crown in the colors of the Martel crown, and, of course, Charles Martel's surname is suspect after the Maccabee-hammer theme. Charles was the son of a Pepin, the grandson of Pepin of Landen, which underscores the historical importance if correct to trace Pepin to Bebba or her family. It would make the Carolingian dynasty suspect from the Berenicianus Maccabees, or at least whatever it was that named Berenicianus.
The Dyke's above are kin to squirrel-using Dyke's and squirrel-using Decks/Daggers (Dagobert liner?), and then Squirrels/Squire's (Sheriff liner?), sharing the red Deck/Dagger squirrel, were first found in the same place as Pepin-suspect Babcocks/Batcocks. Pepins are suspect out of "Papia," originally a Laevi-founded city on a river suspect with Dyke / Deck liners. Therefore, note that the Camelford and Tess/Teck cross/saltire are in the colors of the Bath cross, for Bat liners can now trace to the Ticino, important where Bath is in the same place as Leavells.
Pepin's father is said to be a CARLoman, and then Carlysle's (Cumberland) use another flory cross, the Bouillon / Arnold symbol, in the red color of the Arnold cross. Italian Carlo's (Bode colors) are also "Carlisi." French Carlo's/Charlemagne's could be using the Scottish Arthur Shield because the Carlysle Crest is a "pen," and because English Arnolds use a Shield like that of Irish Arthurs, and then the Crest of the latter Arnolds is covered in besants. Could this look like the Artemidoros > Bassus line? Publius Pulcher (thought to be a grandson of Quintus Caepio the elder) had joined Artemidoros' family, and the Arthurs use a pelican in Crest.
There have got to be some surnames in honor of one or two of the important Ida's. Ida's brother, a bishop, was Modoald, like the Modens/Modeys, or, better yet, like the Modleycott/Medlicott surname, in the colors of tiger-using Maybe/Mabee's that can link to Medleys sharing a white tiger with Arthur-beloved Hobs, first found in Berwickshire. If the tiger goes to Tigranes Maccabee, we have just found another potential Maccabee / Herod trace to Ida.
Gotta Get Past ThisWhat follows in this section is a batch of points jotted down one to two weeks ago for the purpose of increasing my understanding on a number of fronts relating to the Artemidoros Galatians. The purpose was to find the parent(s) of Caiaphas. However, there are some inserts in this section that expand on the topic above, especially on Munderic's potential in tracing to Amyntes.
The Tess/Teck saltire is colors reversed from the Annan saltire, but the point here is that Tess'/Tecks/Tease's were first found in the same place (Switzerland) as Tease/Tigh-colored Heims so as to possibly trace to Openheims, suspect with the Amyntes line to open-helmet Mynetts. After writing that, the Openheims (MacArthur crowns) were reloaded to find what I had forgotten, that one Openheim Coat (nine besants) uses the fesse in the colors of the Tease/Tigh fesse! The other Openheim Coat (curved PERCHEvron) uses an anchor in the colors of the Mynett helmets.
The Openheim Shield may even be that the Gomers/Gomens using the Kopple roosters for a trace to Galli liners on the part of the roosters, and a trace to Koplik = Kupionich on the other.
The other point was that the Tease's/Tighs (Alan fesse?) use stars in the colors of the Vere and Annas star, which might not be important had there not been a Tessy-sur-Vire (Manche) on a river suspect with the Vere's of Manche. I had not been sure for a while whether the Tease/Tigh stars link closely to the Annas star because I didn't give the question emphasis enough to realize that Annas' were likewise first found in Nottinghamshire. This could be the first time in making that realization, for I don't recall it at an earlier time.
I didn't expect it, but Tease's/Tighs were first found in the same place (Nottinghamshire) as Mea's/Meighs using the Camelford cross! The blue fitchees of Mea's/Meighs were come across in the Alban bend. It all becomes depressing where, even though Meighs and Mecks are suspect with Maccabee's, it's hard to know whether they were of an entity after the Maccabees proper, or part of Maccabee make-up. I am sticking to the claim that Maccabees were formed from the Mathis river, in Albania, wherefore it looks like Maccabee liners went both ways about the same time, one to Britain, the other to Israel. Maccabee formation was shortly after Hannibal and Hasdrubal, and so let me repeat that Heslingtons, whose white Moor head was traced to Hasdrubal, husband of Sophonisba, use green-on-white, the Were- and Ivery-bend colors. The Joseph motto term, "mago," is suspect with Mago, Hannibal's brother.
Let me say it again: it looks like Carthaginian-Ligures, or Numidian-Ligures, mergers both of them, went both ways, one to the Israeli priesthood...but not without the Laevi Ligures who were previously Gauls of France. They are expected from Toulouse's Trocmii (Volcae), to the Galatians of the Brogitarus line. We can only wonder whether Paul, the apostle, in Galatia, converted a family with some of that gold. Julius Severus, from Hasmonean-suspect Akmonia, birthed Julius Bassus, and the Bassus line is suspect with GOLD roundels. Who chose that symbol for the Bassus line, and why? All roundels are expected to be of the Round surname, first found in Essex, location of Camulodunum, and where Quints were first found.
Again, the children of Artemidoros are left "unknown," and his tree jumps to the grandson, Julius Severus. We saw the Rasmussens link to camel-using Darwins (from Derbe?), and the ASSMAN variation of Rasmussens looks linkable to "AKMONia." One can understand why Assmans are also "Mussen" if the Massena / Maecenas line was at Akmonia.
Was the omission of Artemidoros' son a deliberate cover-up for the obvious-ness if left for all to see? His children are roughly at the right time for the birth of Joseph Caiaphas (date "unknown", parents "unknown", children "unknown"; retirement details "unknown").
In the last update, a Caro / Cher term was come across that was covered up by historians, as they claimed that it meant, "dear, beloved." In fact, it was found how it really had to do with the Conteville family in the Cotentin/Contentin, an area of Normandy also called "Coutances," which terms became suspect with Cottius' family, and the Cotta/Cottin surname, because lines from Aurelia Cotta were tracing there. It was a way to identify Conteville's as from the Cottians, and for this new idea I have no doubt that it's true. Conteville's have been suspect for months as a line from Joseph Caiaphas, while, separately, I have been toying (for as long as a year) with the idea that Joseph was born from a line of Aurelia Cotta. Therefore, to find that Conteville's (Burgo's to begin with) and Cottians tracing to a Burgo-Caro/Cher entity in the Manche area of Normandy, which is like "charo" motto term of Josephs, was a real eye-opener.
If the "wlad" motto term of Josephs is for the Vlads/Flattens, note that they use nothing but a giant Zionist star in the colors of the same in the Openheim Chief. There is a chance that "GALATIAN" can become "FLATTEN" to some speakers. That could identify the Vlads/Flattens as the Amyntes Galatians.
Here's the line of Brogitarus if you haven't got it on your scratch paper: Brogitarus, father of Amyntes, father of Artemidoros, father of ?, father of J. Severus, father of J. Bassus, father of Quadratus (married the Herod-Maccabee line from Mariamne), father of Quadratilla, wife of Laevillus Nobodyknowswherehecomesfrom.
Perta-suspect partridges are used by Saxe's, suspect from the Sakarya. Then, although I usually emphasize the Colts/Celts of PERTHshire, I've known for some years that they are a branch of COUTES'/Coots, traceable to Coutances, about 20 miles from Tessy-sur-Vire. This is a way to see the Khaldi>Celts in Manche (expected in this part of proto-France), where we can expect Macissus elements from lake Tatta, before migration to Perthshire with Perta liners. But why do both Celts and Coutes' use the Pilate pheon (in colors reversed) at the top of a stag's head? Was Pontius Pilate at the Tatta area? The Shaws of Perthshire share the Pilotte/Pillette and Pellet grails. As it's known / claimed that Pilate's mother was a Pict of Perthshire, why is it that we can trace Perthshire elements to lake Tatta (upper Halys) while "Pontius" smacks of the neighboring Pontus at the mouth of the Halys? [During this paragraph, I started the loading of the Kelt Coat, and then continued to write].
Or, why do Hollys, now suspect with "Halys," use a dolphin, code for Dauphine elements, while mount Pilat is in Dauphine? Or, as the Pilate pheons are code for Payens/PEANS, first found in Dauphine, can the co-called "chevron PEAN" of Hamonds trace Pontius Pilate to Amyntes? Right here, I went to the houseofnames page to load the Hamond description, when the Kelt Coat (Perthshire) was fully loaded and waiting, and there was a near-duplicate of the Hamond Shield!! It's making Pilate suspect with Amyntes, and therefore with Publius Pulcher. Pulciphers aren't listed, but Pulsiphers are listed Polesdons using stars in colors reversed to the Hamond stars, and if you haven't read it yet, Mynett-like Hamonds/HAMINDs were first found in the same place as Mynetts.
As Payens use mullets (though they don't call them such), here's the Hamond-Crest description: "A falcon rising proper with a gold mullet on each wing, between the attires of a stag." I would suggest that the Celt and Coutes stags should be linked to the "attires" code (Atrebates?), likely the Atters/Tyre's (Ferte eagle, traces to Hamond-related Ferte-Mace) of Kintyre, where Alexanders were first found. The Atter/Tyre Coat ("ardua" motto term) also shows the ship of Mere's / DeMere's from Cheshire, where Hamon de Massey had his home, thus assuring that Hamon(d)s are in honor of that man and family. The "DiscRIMINA" motto term of Hamonds traces excellently to Maschi's of RIMINI, and so we can indeed trace the Kelts / Coutes' to Coutances and the related Cotentin.
But we can go the other way, to Qewe, by starting with this Caw Coat (Mackay/Caw kin, expected), and comparing it this this Crimmon/Rimmon Coat with a "divis" motto term likely for Diva, the earlier name of Chester, where a Hamon-de-Massey line ruled. The gold-on-blue lion in the Crimmon/Rimmon chevron is expected as the same-colored lion in the Maschi Chief. The Maschi pine CONE's are expected for Cone's/Couns, sharing the antler with the Hammond Crest, and first found in the same place as Hamonds. One can thereby expect that the "attires" (i.e. the Hamond antlers) links to Cone's/Couns.
The dagger in the Atter Crest links well to the Mackay dagger in this Macey picture, but check out this illuminating discovery, after I quote from the last update: "I read and reported that the black-on-white checks on police caps in England were borrowed from an Arms of Stewart. It dawned on me above that the black-on-white checks of witchcraft and the Illuminati might be code for Blacks on Wight. One surname using a Shield filled with black-and-white checks are the Pepoli's, like "Popiel" of the Mouse Tower. Then, there is also a Popoli surname (Alan colors) first found in the same place (Naples) as Italian Capone'//Capua's." I can't tell you how amazed I am by what follows.
The Atter ship is called a "galley," and already we have reason to suspect the Gaulonites. The English Galley Coat (Hall / Hull colors), with greyhounds in Mynetts-helmet colors, uses black-and-white checks on a Stewart-Coat format, as well as the white Pepin horse head in Crest, and moreover the stars of Atter-loving Hamonds are in the colors and positioning of the Capone stars. Pepins are the ones with the camel traceable to Gamala of the Gaulonites, or to Camulodunum, which one? The "Mens" motto term of Pepins and Poppins goes to the Manx liners out of / into Manche, and the Pepin motto has two "que" terms buried as probably code for Qewe/Que. Can we go both ways with the Pepin camel, to Camulodunum and to Gamala?
Note how the Quade wolf heads reflect the Pape/Papenburg talbot heads, themselves a colors-reversed version of the Hull / Hall talbot heads. The PapenBROECK variation is no coincidence; it's indication of a Pape merger with Stewart-related Brocks using the "VIREscit" motto term partly in honor of Vire-river Alaunians, and partly for those Skit liners that link to the Brocuff Chief. In this picture, the Papenburgs are linking to BROGitarus elements just because he was the father of Amyntes. The Pape/Papenburg fesse is "raGULLY," as is the Stewart bend, and that clinches the Pape-Stewart link, but we then have the French Pepins showing a GULL, hearkening back to the Galleys that brought the Pepins up in the first place. Pepins do not call it a gull, but call it a "bird." It now looks like a raven, but I was sure they once showed the gull.
The Gully Coat happens to be a version of the Caw Coat shown above. Gullys are Julians, and a trace of Julians to Qewe expects a Caepio birthed by Julius Caesar as the wife of Artemidoros. That's my expectation, a Caepio wife for Artemidoros. My scratch paper awaits her. The Gully chevron is red, like the Quint chevron, right?
As Hulls / Halls are now being trace to "Halys," apparent home of the (C)Halybes and known home of the Hatti, note that Scottish Pape's/Pope's were first found in Hatti-like CAITHness, earlier called, Gallaibh, (like "Chalybes"). Quade's are said to derive in "Watt," but that likely plays to the Qewe relationship with neighboring KizzuWATna. Halls / Hulls were traced previously to Hellespont, where there was a GALLIpolis location suspect with the Galli priests of Cybele. Let's not forget that the Squirrels, now suspect from "Sakarya," and therefore from Brogitarus' Cybele cult, were first found in the same place (Worcestershire) as Watts. See also the Vatts/Watters/Quattie's (in the theater of MacDonalds, Atters, and Alexanders), asking why they with Watts use a pair of glasses hanging from an oak tree.
The Helms suggested by the Amyntes helmets use white pheons in both colors of the Amyntes helmets and the Galley greyhounds. As Helms are traced to "roofed shelter for cattle", they are likely close kin of same-colored and Hamond-related Cattle's...from Cattolica, beside Rimini.
PERTS/Petts use hollow lozenges in the colors of the Anchor/Annacker lozenges. The "Ardens" motto of Perts is definitely for the Ardens using cinquefoils-on-a-bend in the three-color scheme of the Pert mascles. Dupre's/Dupreys/DuPRATS are honored in the lampreys of the Scottish Prude's/Pryde's, and English Prude's are listed with PRATs/Deprats. The other Pratts use more mascles (hollow lozenges), and another black wolf head. Do all black wolf heads trace to Qewe? I don't know, but some wolves are suspect with wolf-depicted Lycaonia, location of Perta. Anchors/Annackers can trace to Ankara, not far from Perta.
The interesting thing about Anchors/Annackers is that they were traced to Agrigento, facing Numidia, where the Craig ancestors of Carricks were traced, and then Carricks appeared above to be a branch from Caracatus, while he appeared to trace to Carthaginians / Numidians. Ankara is not near Agrigento, of course, but Wikipedia says that Agrigento was founded by inhabitants of Gela, possibly from the Galatians at Ankara. Why does Gela use a black eagle standing on two pillars. Can't Julians link to the black Roman eagle in the Arms of GUILLEStre? The two pillars are a symbol of Hercules, who sailed west in a ship of Helios of Rhodes:
[Gela] was founded around 688 BC by colonists from Rhodes and Crete, 45 years after the founding of Syracuse. The city was named after the river Gela. The Greeks had many colonies in the south of what is now Italy, and for many centuries the Greeks had a major influence on the area. Gela flourished and, after only a century, a group of Geloi founded the colony of Agrigento.Who were the Geloi? Maybe we'll need to ask the historians. Maybe they were named after shaving cream in a merger with the Berbers > Barbers. One never knows what an historian will come up with when he puts his mind to such tasks. He doesn't think often that, maybe, something like "Geloi" came from another people group with roughly the same name. Once the important sectors of heraldry are known, one can take some good shots, like tracing Barber-related Gellone's to the Geloi, for while Guerin of Provence is suspect with Drake's, the latter are from the Drago river of Agrigento. But, surely, the historian will ignore this and stick to shaving gel as the better derivation once he finds that Barbers are involved. French Gilly's/Jillys are in Gellone / Barber colors, and use lions in the colors of the Golan and Guerin lions. The Gilly/Jilly Coat compares with that of English Assmans.
In myth, Glaucus loved Scylla on the eastern tip of Sicily. I'll bet that Glaucus was a Gileki peoples, also called, Gels, at the Gela river. I traced Gellone's to the Shawia, or at least to the Awraba/Aures tribe, and then the red lions shared by Gillys, Guerins and Golans should be the Aur lion too. In any case, the Gellys/Jellys were first found in Aures-based Ayrshire. I've never seen the Gellys/Jellys before, so far as I can recall, or, at least, I've never read their Crest description: "A wheat-sheaf entwined by two snakes." Years ago, I identified the Gileki as one of two snakes on the Hermes caduceus. The wheat sheaf traces to the Shawia > Sheaves line = Berber Shaves, right?
Rhodes has a major city birthed from Helios, the city of Ialysos that, to some speakers, could become JALYsos. I figured that Ialysos was from the Galli, for I read that the Galli had a coiled-snake symbol, which was the symbol of the caduceus. Therefore, the proto-Galatians look like the namers of Gela.
Wikipedia on the Gela river: "The name Gela probably comes from the Greek verb gelo "I smile/laugh"." Why of course, that's what a man does when the barber gives him a nice, not shave.
Gillicks are listed with Irish Burghs/BERKs, and though this was known, it hasn't dawned until now that the Gillick cross, also the Eustace cross, is in Golan / Gilly / Gellone colors. English Gillicks/Gulicks were first found in BERKshire.
Corbets are about to be shown as a possible branch of Cobbets/Cupids, important because the latter are highly suspect as Caepio liners. The black-on-gold ravens of French Corbets (said to be of de Preaux) could therefore be in those colors for the same colored Joseph martlet. Scottish Corbets come up as Corban, the name of a man-made law held to or created by the Israeli priests for robbing the elderly of family welfare monies. Scottish Corbets/Corbans likewise use the raven, and it must be the raven of the Rothes, first found in the same place (Shropshire) as Corbetts and Alans. The "PaSCIT" motto term of Corbetts/Corbans therefore looks like part-code for the Alaunians on the Vire river, where we can expect the Skits as per the Stewart motto term, "VireSCIT."
Corbetts/Corbans share an elephant in Crest with Cobbs, which is what makes Corbetts suspect with Cobbetts/Cupids. Cobbs happen to use martlets in the colors of the Corbett/Corban ravens, and, yes, they are black, like the Joseph martlet. It was established in my mind (last update) that Leuricus Cobbe, in the Cobb write-up, was from Lurco liners.
Lurco's daughter and her husband, Appius Pulcher, produced the wife of emperor Augustus, meaning that Lurco liners are expected with Augustus liners. This may explain the Lurco trace to Bolzano, which shares a red-on-white fesse with Augustus. As Rome's/Rooms share that fesse too, one can explain why Lurco lines go to Romneys, and from there they go to pelican-using Pulleys sharing the Romney Shield (that's a great way to prove that the heraldic pelican of Stewarts traces to the Lurco > Pulcher line). In this way, one may argue that Lurco's line has nothing to do with a line through Caiaphas. But wait, for the Pulcher Chief uses the Joseph martlet in both colors of the Joseph martlet, while the Chief of the Leuricus Cobbs use the same martlet. And it's a FOOTless martlet, while Foots and cornuCOPIA-using Fothes, who both trace to Guernsey's Footes location off the coast of Manche, both use a chevron in Levi-chevron colors.
Cobbs (and Hobsons) were first found in the same place (Suffolk) as Tigers and same-colored Blois', and then Hobs use a tiger. The counts of Blois / Chatillon used the vertical pale bars shared by Nights, likewise first found in Suffolk. The Nights in this case look like a branch of Nee's/Neighs, both strongly suspect with Ny's/Neys in the "ni" motto term of "Josephs". The Hob hawks link to the Lurco-related "hawks lure" used by Pulley-related Gards...and Gard-like Herods. Where was my head when trying to identify Gards with another entity? Gards (CORK) even use griffins that I trace to Agrippa's.
Therefore, if I haven't thought of it before, it looks like Gards are discoverable as Herod liners. Herods even use a gold fesse that could be the gold Gard Chief, and the latter come up as "Gerd." I must have made this realization before, because the Gard martlets are in the green-on-white lions colors of the Lannoys / Lyons that are a Herod-Archelaus line. If this is correct, it could make many white-on-blue chevrons clues to Herod liners. The question: were Herods at lake Garda and Villa Guardia? Is Arco on the northern end of that lake named after Archelaus liners?
The Ny's are honored by Grove's using the Capes scallops, and then German GARDners likewise use the Capes scallop on the Kaplan Shield. It was just discovered a couple of weeks ago that French Chaplins use the double gold chevrons of Josephs. English Chaplins/Kaplans/Chaiplins (first found in the same place as Josephs) use more griffins, in the Chief, as do Gards in colors reversed to the griffins in the Chief of English Gardners (but look, Gardners are traced in their write-up to gardens while Gards are not).
To help trace the "culpa" motto term of Pulleys to "Colapis," it was beside the Una river of Juno, which we find in the UNIack variation of Gards. But the "Toujours" motto of Hards is used by Yonge's with a "juene" motto term for Juno elements, and so Yonge's are themselves, surprisingly, from the Levite-suspect namers of Juno. As Gaulonite stock is suspect at Camulodunum, later COLchester, one has reason to see Gaulonite stock as the namer of the Colapis. Ask whether Julians can trace to the river of Jupiter, and no one would be surprised if correct.
Gullys, first off, use the English-Julian crosses while Gulls use the German-Julian pale bars, three black ones and three white ones, just like the six horizontal bars of Ny's/Neys! One could get the impression that Joseph Caiaphas was of the Julius-Caesar line.
French Pepins share the gold-on-red crescents of German Julians, and while we saw Sagan-evidence as to why Constantine I could have been a Julian liner, see now that English Constantine's share the Pepin fleur while French Constantine's share the French-Julian stars while Irish Constantine's (Gardner Shield?) share the three Brian lions in pale for a trace to Briancon, smack beside GUILLEStre. The Guilles' are listed with the Gulls using the Julian pale bars. The Guilles/Gull Chief color is that of Gard Chief, and Guilles'/Gulls were first found in the same place as Caesars and Gards.
As French Alans use the Julian stars, French Guilles' (eight-pointed stars in Julian-star colors), said to be from Rennes and Dol, are clearly Julian liners. Reminder: Stewarts use a raGULLY bend. The Raggs even use the white Dole fleur...that were supposedly owned by Bellamy-suspect Plows (Stewart stag) and possibly also by the king that granted them to Plows. Bellamys use crescents in colors reversed from the Julian / Pepin crescents.
As German Gulls use the gull, they can link to Hall-related Pepins (I believe they used the gull), tending to identify Gulls as Hull liners, no great surprise. But it's all indicating that Gaulonites may have been Julians under a Hebraic name. Imagine, Levite Julians in the Sanhedrin. In such a picture as this, Gaulonites are expected from a Julian line with Servilia Caepio and married with the ancestry of Laevillus Nobodyknowswherehecomesfrom. It's hard to show whether there were Josephs in Laevillus' fathers if we don't know who they were. The common stock for Gaulonites at Gamala and the namers of Camulodunum may now be pinpointed at the Colapis river.
Pepins and Pipe's, by the way, are honored by the "organ pipes" of the Lett Crest, and Letts figure well as Leto liners from Trypillians. The camel is shared by Pepins and Traby-possible Darwins, possibly from "Derbe." The Darwin bend might just be the Gone/Kohn bend, of the family of surnames that became suspect, with the Couns/Cone's, as Cowens. Was Charles Darwin, who said he felt like he was murdering God, a Sadducee-priest liner? That would make sense where the Illuminati is defined as a band of lunatics daring with activism to keep Jesus dead, the agenda of Caiaphas their father. Darwin's uncle, I think it was, ERASMUS Darwin, part of a Luner Society of revolutionary, scientific men of the "Enlightenment," may have been named after the Maccabee-suspect Erasmas/Rasmussen/Assman surname. It along with the other As(s)mans use the Pepin bend-with-fleur, what a darwincidence.
However, I still have a grave problem linking Gaulonites proper to Camulodunum. I don't think that happened.
Here's what looks like some Julian bars in the Coat of tiger-using BlackHALLs. It's yet another white tiger, coming with an El-Gabal suspicion: "A silver tiger's head erased issuing from the rays of the sun." Along with this sun, the Blackhall Chief uses besants. It sounds like the Tigranes line to El-Gabal's Bassianus priests. And the only surname I can figure as the representation of "erased" is the Eras surname, listed with Erasmus'. Over and over again, one can get the sense that the priests of Akmonia developed into the Bassus > Bassianus line. I didn't know while writing here that the sister of Ida of Metz was Severa.
I've seen the "issuing" term before but have not yet figured what surname it pertains to. Rays are suspect with Toulouse's Raymond counts, and can include Gellone liners. Why a Hall ending on these Blacks/Blaiks? They were first found in the same place as ragully-using English Stewarts, and so, with Blackhalls using Julian-suspect bars, they look like the Black liners at the Alauna theater, and perhaps the Halls were named after Alauna. I suppose that Alans become suspect as Gaulonite liners. It recalls my trace of Alans to the Geloni allies (of Gelonus) of the Budini (pre-5th century BC), for the Alan-related Boyds trace without doubt (in my mind) to the Budini. The Alans themselves originated from Sarmatians that lived to the southwest of where Herodotus had the Budini, but these Sarmatians moved west into the Ukraine. I traced the Alans of Dol to the Roxolani Alans (Neuri theater) suspect in the later Roquefeuils. The Rocket-suspect Rogers/Rogets are a branch of Roquefeuils. This section was written before finding Bodegisel.
The house of Boetus can trace to the Budini. These are the Budini that I traced to the Bodencus river (the Po) when I saw Alans at Forum Allieni (proto-Ferrara, on the Po) in about 70 AD. I then traced Budini to Italian Botters, suspect with Bauts/Bots at the sources of the Po, on the Bautica river where the Arduinici had a home (1,000 AD), who traced to Alauna in earlier times. This picture can explain why one Aland Coat uses the same bend as Botters. We saw earlier how that Aland Coat was a version of the Pulley and Romney Coats, and then a new and alternative Rome Coat was shown, itself a version of the Romney Coat (MacArthur crown), and it traced to spur-depicted Closeburn liners, and itself has a cowboy-BOOT spur that makes it linkable to the Spurrs...whom I've been tracing to the Botters for years, who were from the Butteri cowboys, you see, in the Pontine marshes starting at Ardea! And one Roger character applied to the Arduinici's founding.
So, SUDDENLY, we have logical reason, aside from similarity of terms, and similarity of Coats, to identify the Gaulonites as an evolution into the Dol Alans (and of course other Alan branches in Brittany). The logic extends also to the Gamala location of Gaulonites, for Budini can be identified with Buz, second son of Nahor, because, at one time, Budini lived south of Kiev, near the Neuri on the Bug river of Ukraine, and likely the two lived closer at some other times. Then, Kemuel, suspect with the namers of Gamala, was Nahor's third son. As Nahorites were bona fide Hebrews, a trace to the house of Boetus seems logical too. The Bug river is in the proximity of the Polish border, and Blacks are being regarded as Pollocks.
I wonder whether Begga was named from Bug-river elements while her ancestor, Bodegisel, was a Budini.
Here's an alternative Blackhall Coat never before shown, what looks like a colors-reversed version of the Douglas Coat (Moray stars), using the same stars as Innes' of Moray. As Douglas' ancestors (Hardys) were first found in Lanarkshire, that's where Blackwood is. If you recall, Blackwood was linked to Zacharys/Sachveralls, and so let's show the Hardy ancestors of Douglas', using a cross in the colors of the Zachary/Sachverall saltire! That's more evidence that the latter surname links to Ralph and Thomas de Vere of Blackwood. And so it appears that one can link that entire picture to Blackhalls...and of course to Blacks using the stars of Lanark-theater Glass', though Glass' were first found in BUTEshire, whom some say was named after Boyds. [I didn't find until that next update that Blackhall is in Renfrewshire.]
As Nails/Nagle's were shown using the Zachary/Sachverall saltire, and as Nagle's trace to Oneglia, home of some Arduinici, it's now a practical no-brainer to identify Hardy's as a branch of the Arduinici. This recalls the trace of the Douglas' to two features in the Monaco Coat so that it now seems clinched that Douglas' were merged at one time with Monaco elements, especially the ones represented by the white-on-blue Zionist stars. Monaco is 30-35 miles from Oneglia.
I didn't know while writing here that Grimaldi's were fundamental to Bodegisel's family. It's suggested by all things considered that certain Dol-destined Alans of Sarmatia did not cut across northern Europe, but came south to Lyncestis while a similar migration of Scythians parked at lake Scodra to be near their Boeotian cousins at Butua. I always had the sense that Stubbs and Stubbings were Stewarts, even aside from the possibility that STEWarts were secretly named after STUBBs. That sense was before finding the Stubbing trace to Stobi of the Paeoni. And it was only recently that the lynx of Alauna traced the proto-Stewarts to Lyncestis, and so see that the Erigon river through Lyncestis flows smack to Stobi:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b1/Roman_provinces_of_Illyricum%2C_Macedonia%2C_Dacia%2C_Moesia%2C_Pannonia_and_Thracia.jpgMy sense now is that Hercules and the snake-woman, his mate by which they birthed mythical Scythes, can trace to Heraclea, beside Lyncestis. The two are near the shores of lake Lychnidus that traces to Lychnis = Sevan where GUGAR/Gogarene was located that may have named mythical CECRops, mythical founder of Athens that was a snake below the waist, as with the Hercules' snake-woman. I have the sense that Keturah of Hebron has all to do with this as per Hercules descending from Samson. Hercules married Hebe, wife of Hera, and the latter traced to the Aras river at JereVAN, partly named by peoples at Lake Van, which included Nairi, and the peoples of Van named SeVAN, according to Wikipedia. Jerevan is smack at Soducena off the shores of lake Sevan! That's why the Samson > Hercules line of Danaans, originating at the Tanais area of the early Alans, should be at Heraclea.
The Samson Danaans were suspect at Laish, beside PANIAS/Banias (Banners / Banburys?), what I see as mythical Pan and Phoenix together, from the Biaini namers of Lake Van. And these trace well to PENEStae on the Drilon river issuing from lake Lychnidus, and then further down that river, at the mouth, the Laish elements named Lissus. The snake-woman thus becomes the proto-PenDRAGON cult that I see at Penestae. It's very clear from multiple considerations that the Panias entity (Phoenicians) named the Peneus river near the Ladon, and the two rivers were made fathers of Daphne, but one of them was given a multi-headed dragon symbol for all the various branches that it founded. It could be that Penestae traces to the Peneus (Pisa / Elis area). Pan was made born in Arcadia near p[art of the Ladon river, and Arcadia was essentially northern Sparta. The Pollux Spartans are suspect at Pelagonia, smack of Lyncestis and Heraclea, and Pelagonia may have been the entire ancestry of the Poles, and therefore of the Blacks, thus explaining why Blacks traced to Alauna, or why Blacks use the Glass stars while Stewarts were founded under that name while moving to Glasgow.
The Touch's/Tuff's share a green lion (Herod suspect) with Tracks/Triggs and Rippers/Ripleys, and Teague's use the Julian / Gully cross for the general reason that both Cotta liners and Teague's trace to the Touques river. It was the TIGRanes-suspect Medleys (TIGER in Crest) and Bosco's who use the "tuft" code that can be for the Touch's/Tuff's, indicating that Touch's and Teague's can trace to some aspect of the Artemidoros and/or Tigranes line. As the "tufts of grass" (Bosco's) traced to Grasse, smack beside Cagnes, it tended to reveal that the Caige variation of Teague's, previously suspect with "Gace" on the Touques, can also trace to the namers of Cagnes. And that's the ANTIBES area suspect with Herod ANTIPAS. I learned that Antibes pre-dated the first Herod so that I feel compelled to trace one of Herod's parents / grandparents to the Antibes theater (it may have been over several generations).
Imperia, where the Herodian-like Arduins of the Bautica river had a branch about a thousand years after the Herods, is about 50 miles only from Antibes. The possibility is that Herods were named after Artemi(doros), suggesting that Herods may have been Amazons and thus jibing with my claim that Herods were Massey liners. I didn't know while writing here that "[Munderic] married a daughter of Florentinus (born 485), a Roman senator, and his wife ARTEMia, daughter of Rusticus of Lyons. [Munderic and Artemia's daughter] were the parents of Gondulphus of Tongeren [near Amay and Landen], Bodegisel, Patrician of Provence, and Mummolin, possibly mayor of the palace of Neustria." I'm not sure whether this Bodegisel was the Bodegisel, father of Arnulf of Metz, but note how he traces Grimaldi liners of the Gris/Gisel kind to Provence.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MundericLook at how near in time 485 is from Artemidoros of about 50 BC, or the forthcoming Bassianus' of 200 AD. The Roman senate, as per the Pulchers, had been supporting the family of Amyntes and Artemidoros, and Lyon was the area where the brother of Herod Antipas is expected to have re-settled. The sun-using Tracks/Tricks above may have been from "Trocmii," which is the peoples to which Artemidoros belonged. I actually traced Herods to the Varni on a river (Warnow) flowing to Rostock, a term like Rusticus, father of Artemia. And at one point, ROSTock became suspect with the "RESTs" used by Arthurs. Later, it seemed that the "rest" should trace to "Orestia" at Arda (Hebros), but just look at another Orestia to the south of Lyncestis, for I even trace Lissus on the Drilon to Lissae (shown) at the sources of the Hebros.
As per the Swords, note the Serdi peoples at BAGaraca, beside Lissae; Begga was a mainline Merovingian, and they used the fleur-de-lys. The first Merovingian married Basina, like the Bessi priests that lived smack at the Lissae theater. These Bessi were traced to the naming of Bassania at Lissus, but they can also trace to the Basante river with a mouth near Gabuleum-like Cibalae (shown). Bessi > Bessin/Beaston / Biston / Bessen / Piast liners are suspect at Bistue at the source of the Basante.
The Pendragon fleur-de-lys traces to Lissus and the Lys/Lisse surname. The Lissus > Lys entity was not made a flower without cause, and is somewhat suspect from Florence, and here we find Florentinus, a Roman senator suspect in marrying the Artemidoros line at Lyon. I had traced Alans of Langhe to Bruno's, first found in Florence, as they figured as part of the Lang > Stewart pelican line (now suspect from Pulchers) to the rulers and namers of Brunswick. And as Langs are suspect with bear-using Landons/Langdons, it can trace that Alan-of-Brunswick picture -- suspect with Bernicians -- to Tongeren. But as that picture was Pepinid too, while Pepins traced to Akmonia with Assmans, zowie, we have a great reason here to trace Julius Severus (grandson of Artemidoros) of Akmonia to Severa, sister of Pepin of Landen's wife. Amazing.
It's amazing to me that I should have ventured to the Bebba-Pepin topic starting just three days ago, without planning it, and look at what it has dug up to supplement the Artemidoros investigation that was yet ongoing into this update.
There is a Dutch TENGnagel surname that might apply to Tongeren (at Liege). I am becoming very open to a Herod / Arduin trace from Rusticus to Rostock. The Wagers, whom I traced to Wagrians at Rostock, use HEARTs. An Orestia line through Rusticus of Lyon and Rostock is thereby feasible. At one time, I thought that Rostock could have been represented by the Sinclair rooster, but I've not favored that idea since, tracing the rooster instead to Galli liners at Gallura (where Guiscards engaged).
It now looks like the Pendragons (first found in the same place as Bude), whose helmets had previously traced to the Mynett line from Amyntes, can now trace from Amyntes to Munderic's marriage with Artemia's daughter, thus tracing king Arthur to Artemia...who lived bang-on in the Arthurian period said to be about 500-600 AD. Therefore, expect that Munderic's family traces to Cornwall, and of course to Artois' Lys river especially, where one could expect the family of de-Bouillon to arise from, for that family traced to the Bautica river years before I knew of the Arduinici on that river. It appears that one may trace Arduinici back to Artemia's family. The Bar-suspect Bruno's are said to have had a branch at Asti, not far from the Bautica, and Bauts are in Este colors. I had traced the Alans of the Brunswick line further to Vis-de-Loop (somewhere in Normandy, could be near Avranches), of the Fiddle's sharing wolves with Welfs, that being the Welf branch of Este. That all works.
Munderic claimed to be from a Frank / Merovingian leader whom Clovis supposedly had murdered so that he could take the throne. Nice family. Clovis was the son of Basina so that he, perhaps with Munderic, can trace to Julius Bassus, great-great-grandson of Amyntes. If it works, don't fix it.
Herod's mother is known to be from the family of Aretas III of Petra (Edom), this being the Edomite side of the first Herod. It looks like Aretas should trace to proto-Arduins at the Antibes theater, but historians are adamant that Aretas was of the Bedouins, whom you would never trace to southern France. What did king Arthur's knight of the round table, BEDivere, represent, anyway? I say that he was code for Bedewe, a city now in Sudan that was also Merowe (now Meroe). It's plain to me that mythical Merops, king of Ethiopia, was code for Merowe, and that this entity was a branch of Merops of Kos, the proto-Merovingians. To prove this, Merovingians are usually traced to Salian Franks at the mouth of the Rhine, where Bedewe-like Batavi lived too. And so I trace this thing to "Padova," at Este. As Padova/Padua was likely named by the same that named the Padus river, there is a question as to whether Bedewe > Padova liners were the same Budini that I imagine at "Bodencus," the same river. I trace "Padus" to Padasus in the Troad i.e. in Trojan Mysia, for Merovingians were from Trojans, especially the Keturah-line Paris Trojans.
It was wild times in the Israeli theater during the Maccabee era, and Romans were injecting their people in positions of power with all the local powers they sought to use for their diabolical conquest purposes. Anything was possible, and anyone who served Rome was a Great Stupid, just like Herod. I predict that Aretas' family will trace to southern France, but probably first to Arethusa of Syria. Arethusa is now suspect as the first home of the Revelation Harlot proper. Arethusa is where the purple-robed El-Gabal sun-god cult was at the earliest-known time. Arethusa was not far from Qewe. There were Roman puppets there, including Tigranes, a Herod liner.
The past few updates begin to show how El-Gabal can link back to Cybele and her sun-god husband, er, or was it her son? Yes, I'm referring to Attis, the sun god of Phrygia. Brogitarus, the high priest of Cybele, and grandfather of Artemidoros, likely had an Attis cult of priests, and so, in the same way that "ARETAS" looks like "ARETHUSA," the latter may have been named by some aspect of Artemidoros. The following from Wikipedia's Pavia article caught my eye:
Ticinum (the modern Pavia) was an ancient city...a little way above its confluence with the Padus (Po).It is said by Pliny the Elder to have been founded by the Laevi and Marici, two Ligurian tribes, while Ptolemy attributes it to the Insubres.
...The name Papia, from which the modern name Pavia comes, does not appear until Lombard times, when it became the seat of the Lombard kingdom...Of Roman remains little is preserved; there is, for example, no sufficient proof that the cathedral rests upon an ancient temple of Cybele...
Apparently, there was a school of thought having cause to trace Pavia to Cybele (sounds like "Gabal"). Just like that, one may make a Laevi link forward in time to Brogitarus. None of the Masonic masters would want anyone to think that there was a Cybele cult in Pavia, however, as that gets too close to the truth they'd like to preserve for their own secrets. While I trace Keys/Kays to Qewe, and as they should trace with Quade's and Levi-loving Aide's to none other than Quadratilla and Laevillus, it just so happens that the Ince and Inch surnames share two black-on-white bendlets, what a super-duper insubrincidence. In other words, we now have three people groups at Pavia for to link to Laevillus' family, and while "Papia" smacks of the Pepins, let's tell that the Pipe's, using a version of the Pepin Coat, including the camel in the Pepin Crest, were first found in the same place (Somerset) as Leavells.
[Insert -- It looks like Pepins came from the Anatolia area to Belgium, and married the family generally or exactly that gave birth to Artemia. While she was the wife of a Roman senator, Pepin of Landen married Ida, supposedly from a Roman father (Arnuald). The chances are high now that some of the Caepio treasure shared by the Trocmii Galatians was passed down to Pepins in order for them to put "conquer the world" on their to-do list. It's known that certain Romans in love with El-Gabal / Heliogabalus were in Woerden of the Netherlands by about 220 AD.
I'm open to seeing many branches of the Arthur line so that king Arthur may not trace exactly to Artemia, but for the little I know of the situation, that trace looks correct at this moment. The Rush surname shares the horse with Pepins and may therefore apply to Rusticus. The Rush horse may trace via the Frey / Phreeze horse to Lannoys and Lyons.
The Fiora surname comes with Floris variation, and even "FiordaLISA / FiordeLISI" so as to link hard to the Lys/Lise surname. The Spanish Flora Coat (Asturias, like "Aosta," location of a Lys river) uses fleur-de-lys, and the Arms of Asturias has the so-called flory" cross of Bouillons...who trace to the Bautica of Aosta. The Taddei Chief uses the Bouillon cross in both colors, and Taddei's were first found in Florence. The Taddei chevrons are in the colors of the Fiora/Floris roses. This picture can trace to Tattons and Duttons and therefore to lake Tatta, location of Perta now expected to trace to Perthois: Munderic (died 532/3) was a Merovingian claimaint to the Frankish throne. He was a wealthy nobleman and landowner with vast estates in the region around Vitry-le-Brule (Vitry-en-Perthois now) near Chalons-sur-Marne. End insert]
We are on the look-out for black bendlets. The Saxons/SEPTons use black bendlets with scarlet / burgundy CHAPLets, what a funny thing [I had not yet discovered the scarlet colors on Arnulf of Metz]. And Bends use both, besants in honor of the line of SEPTimius Severus, and torteaux found between the bendlets of Orrels, first found in the same place (Lancashire) as Septons and Bends. And the Caepio-line lion is in the Orrel Crest. And while I trace Julia Maesa and/or her sister (wife of Septimius Severus) to Le Mas, near Grasse, and related to it, we find the Bend write-up tracing the surname to "by the grassy plain". It's the besant-using DuMAS write-up that traces its surname to Le Mas, but it also traces to AURIOL, an Orrel term if ever we saw one.
The LaMas surname shares white-on-blue lambs with the Arms of Grasse, as though the Maesa family was in Grasse at a high level, and then we find a Lammas location in England held by a Mr. Beaufour, a term that can become, Belfour and Balfour. The Balfours happen to use an otter, code for the Otter/Other Lombards, what a pavincidence. Balfours share the Seaton motto term, "ForWARD", and Wards were traced (last update) to Woerden, location of an altar to emperor Heliogabalus, grandson of Julia Maesa, what a gabalincidence. As Seatons use the Bellamy crescents in the same colors while Otters/Others use them in colors reversed, Beaufours and Balfours look like Bellamy liners.
Now as we saw that Herods should originate at Antibes, about ten miles from Grasse, what a further coincidence that the Fore/Forez surname, suspect with "BalFOUR" and the "FORward" motto term, uses virtually the Herod/Hurl/Herault Coat. Scottish Fore's/Forres' use fleur-de-lys in colors reversed from the same of Pepins. And the Fore's/Forres were first found in Moray, as with the Ince- / Insubres-suspect Innis', the expected partners of Pepins of Pavia. The Fore's/Forres' even held a family seat at Kynlos, where the black-bendlet Kays/Keys can trace as per their "kynn" motto phrase.
The English Keys share a "confido" motto term with Boyds, and the latter share the checkered fesse with the Marici-suspect Marks, what another pavincidence. I've just got to put another insert here. It was not yet understood how the Boyds could trace to Bodegisel when writing here, and so this effectively traced Bodegisel liners to Qewe. The FIDO term in the motto term is for Fiddle's/Fidelows of Vis-de-Loop, suspect with Lupus Laevillus at the Qewe theater. Another point is that the white-on-blue lamb above is used (different design) along with keys in the German Angel Coat, that surname being a branch of Nagle's from Oneglia, about 50 miles from Antibes. Recall the Herod trace to the Warnow river and Rostock, for Angles lived up that way.
I've just noticed another English Key Coat never seen before, using what looks like purple bendlets, and nothing else. Yes, it's called: "A silver shield, two bendlets humettee purple". Is that code for El-Gabal's purple robes in relation to a Qewe family? The latter Keys use a "more faithful" motto phrase while Faithfuls are using a version of the Insubres-suspect Super/Soper Coat. The tree stump in the Faithful Crest was the style used at one time by Italian Milans, and Milan was founded by Insubres. This clinches the Insubres trace to Supers and apparently also to Kay-related Ince's / Inch's.
http://www.free-coat-of-arms.com/As I was just wondering what key-using Angels trace to at Qewe. it was recalled that German Angels ("The TORso of an angel dressed in gold") were first found in the same place (Thor-suspect Tyrol) as Thors/Thorns, speaking to Angl-Thork, an Armenian god that, I read, was from the Yervand dynasty. Armenians at Qewe suggest the Maccabees, Tigranes V and Tigranes VI, who were placed in charge of Armenia, and named after Armenian kings, though I don't know whether the two had any Armenian blood.
The last update presented some brief argumentation for identifying proto-Lombard Vinili with the Unelli/Venelli of Alauna / Crociatonum. There is still a lot of mystery to be solved, but I'm looking for a Unelli = Angle equation. The Vinili were LANGObards, we are told, a term that could develop from "L'Angle." It could identify "Langhe" (near Turin) as an Angle liner, though otherwise I view it as an Alan/Aleng variation.
Mynetts and Hamonds were both first found in Kent, where the same-colored, Teague-related Touque's/Tooks/Tolkiens were first found. Touques' (with an 's') even use besants as sun-code for El-Gabal, seeing that Massey-related Hamonds use a sun. No-one in-the-know is going to reveal that besants are suns. They'll tell that they're Byzantine gold coins instead. Why Byzantine? Play on words for "besant." To disguise Bassianus.
The Touques besants look like an Amyntes link to El-Gabal. Teague's use a "SumMUM" motto term reflective of Sohaemus, priest of El-Gabal, and then Teague's, I've just noted, use an "OPtem" motto term. But if it's code for Opgalli, why "opTEM"? Perhaps as code for the Timms/Time's, first found in the same place as Touque's (no s'), who look like they use a version of the Teague perchevron. There is thus a chance for a trace of Teague's to Opgalli, wife of Tigranes. It expects Opgalli elements at the Touques river. The Touques has a source at a highlands area that my atlas calls, "Coll de Perche," which can explain the Teague PERCHEvron. Teague's use NINE Julian crosslets for a possible link to the Meuse / Metz line. That line had proven to be Trojan, and then Tokers use sea horses while horse's were an old symbol of Trojans, co-founded by Toker-like Teucer, father of Batia, mother of the Trojans.
Who did Batia lead to? The heraldic bats? She married mythical Dardanus, code for the real Dardanus location in Mysia. But there was a Dardania in Moesia, itself at the Margus river beside a Timaeus river that can lead to Time's/Timms. The Aquae location shown near the mouth of the Timaeus seems relevant in what I'm about to say, for it may have founded the Aequi peoples at the Salto-river theater, where Merovingians must trace. DARdanus looks like it was in a PanDAReus code, the latter being a son of Merops of Kos, and as such the Merovingians went through Pandareus, which I'll assume was the Panias line to Penestae. It works because Pandareus' daughter, Aedon, was queen of Boeotia, a Tyrian entity from CadMUS, and namer of Autun in France, near the Lemovices that trace to Lemnos, island of Hephaestus whom I see as part-code for Ephesus, where Pandareus was located. Boeotians could have been related to "Bedewe," therefore, especially where the Cadmus Boeotians were at Butua, now BUDVA, a Bedewe-like term. This has been an argument for tracing the Bodencus river at Padova to the Butua location rather than to Budini.
The paragraph above gives some historical background to the Merovingians at Munderic and the Artemia family suspect as kin to Basina of Thuringia. Again, the Time's/Timms were first found in the same place as Mynetts and Munts/Munds that I'm tracing to Amyntes. We saw bulls in the Boy/BOVE/Boetti and Bobo surnames suspect with a Bodegisel-related Bobo, but bulls, a Merovingian-roots symbol, are used also by MOUNTains around a saltire that's likely the Messey/Messier / Mercia saltire. And Mountains/Montagne's married key-using Claviere's (same place as Bauts) who trace to Qewe and Comana. In fact, they trace to Glaphyra, grandmother of Tigranes. Merovingians traced themselves to a sea bull so that the sea horse of Tokers may apply. "Toker" has all three consonants for linkage to TIGRanes, but I'm not making the connection without harder evidence beyond similarity of terms. This paragraph is another method of showing that Merovingians can track to Amyntes.
There are all sorts of Munder-like surnames that can apply to him, but his marriage to the Artemia line may not have been to most important line. There may have been other Artemia's, other Munders, etc. The besant-using Manders that share a motto phrase with ArBUTHnotts look interesting. Manders are expected in the salaMANDER code of Julians, and while the lizard is in flames, the purple Mandys use "A black wolf's head erased bezante with fire coming from his mouth." The first half of that description seems fully of the Artemidoros > Bassus line at AkMONia, and so one wonders whether "mouth" is heraldic code for MONmouth. The Monmouths are the ones sharing the thin, double fesse bars of mouth-like Mauds, and Gace's from the Touques river. Teague's use a wolf.
Lets go back to the tufts of grass used by Bosco's, for it tends to draw a line from Grasse, through the territory of certain Ligurian tribes, to Busca, and that's where the Arduin-engaged Auriate is located, though I don't yet know exactly where. It smacks of Aurelia Cotta who seems to have provided the Doria/Auria family that married the Arduins in Imperia, between Grasse and Savona. German Angels, likewise using crossed keys, share the white-on-blue lamb with the Arms of Grasse as yet more evidence that Imperia=Oneglia linked to Grasse. The Polesdon-related Savona surname, using a giant scallop in the red of the Pulley scallop, makes it a good bet that the Lurco > Pulcher line got to Liguria with or amongst the Arduins. You can just sense that the Savona Chief is the Living/Levin Chief because the Savona scallop is colors reversed to the giant Gardner scallop while Garners are Capes and Kaplan liners. We can see in this that Pulleys once again show as Gard liners. French Savona's are listed with Savarys/Savards using the same basic besants as the Dumas' of the Grasse fold.
The Crociatonum-suspect Crichtons became suspect with Grasse by their "grace" motto term. There are other ways to make the Arduin link to Crociatonum in Manche, the point being that Masseys of Manche are expected from the line of Julia Maesa that I trace to Le Mas, beside Grasse. And Masseys of Julia's time period are always viewed by me as Herod liners...who have recently become suspect as the Arduinici. I just don't know what the Arduinici were called in the days between them at 1,000 AD and Julia in about 175 AD. In other words, the known Herod-Maccabee line that is known to have married Bassus' are the likely ancestors of the Arduinici proper as they got to the Antibes / Grass theater with the arrival of some line of Julia Maesa. It could have been as early as 300 AD, and may have connected to Bodegisel of Provence in about 600 AD. That would be a logical way to connect the proto-Arthurs to Bodegisel's grandfather, Munderic, while explaining why Munderic married an Artemia line from Lyon (not far-upstream from Provence).
The special white-on-blue fleur we saw in use by the Dole's and related Raggs; it's in use as a giant specimen in the Bush/Busch and Bosch Coats. As the Arduins were founded by one ROGer, I'll bet a rock that Raggs apply to him exactly. Let's take a look at this. French Rogers are also "Rauger/Rauget." Of some interest, Craggs share a blue-on-white bend with Rogers/Raugers, and they can trace to Crociatonum with Carricks because they and Craggs share the black talbot (just as the flow of discussion came to the family of Caracalla in the Grasse theater, here we find some Carrick liners). The blue bend is used also by Charo's/Claro's, in colors reversed from the Ragg bend. Recalling that Kronkite's were looked up as per the Cronciaconnum variation of "Crociatonum," by what cosmic coincidence are Rauger-like Ragers/Reigers sharing a giant bird (stork) in the same colors with the Kronkite's? When "I'll bet a rock" was written above, it had not to do with Kronkite's (in Rock/Roque colors) using "a silver crane holding a rock." I had not yet come to that part, but I was referring to Rock-related Rockets to which I traced Rogers/Rogets. As the Raggs are Alan kin without question, it appears that Roger's Crociatonum / Alauna elements founded the Arduins proper at Ivrea. That is, some proto-Arduins were first at the Manche theater, expected there with the formation of Alauna (I don't know when Alauna was formed).
Recalling the "grace" motto term of Crichtons for an expected Grasse trace to Crociatonum, let's show the cinquefoils of English Grace's, found also in the Arden and Hurt (and Stone) Coats. The design is called "an ORLE of gold cinquefoils".
Aha! There is another giant, white-on-blue bird, this time an ostrich, in the Lois Coat, and as this was traced to the mythical GorLOIS code, it's no coincidence that Gorlois was a ruler in Cornwall, where English Rogers (version of the Pendragon Coat) were first found! Gorlois was essentially the father of king Arthur along with Uther Pendragon (part Lombard), and the latter's mythical Constantine elements traced recently to Crociatonum's Coutances entity. Gorlois was the father of Morgan le Fey, which was part-code for the Veys/Vivians of Cornwall...honored by the motto of the Cragg-related Craigs! That works. And so we can now anticipate a trace of Bodegisel to the Bute elements of Morgan le Fey, suspect first off at Cornwall's Bude area. But let's add that Arthur was born at Cornwall's Tintagel, for whatever that might be worth.
The Tints (Somerset) were found to share a blue unicorn in Crest with Gale's (Cornwall) so that the location should be regarded as TintaGale. This was investigated in the 1st update of last November, but I don't recall realizing then that the Gale Coat looks like a version of the Nagle Coat, or that the Gale surname ("Qui" motto term) looks like a corruption from "NaGEL." That is such a perfect picture, a king-Arthur trace to Oneglia, as was expected these past couple of weeks. Thank you YS for sending in on the Tintagel location! Look at what it has revealed and clinched. I concluded that the Gale's should link to Yells/Yule's (sharing the black Yellow fesse) from Yell in Shetland, the Arms of which uses the unicorn. If that conclusion was correct, then I suppose that Yells/Yule's, and perhaps Yale's, were Nagle liners...perhaps exclusively of the far-north Angles. The Angel/Angle pegasus can apply to the unicorn, the latter perhaps intended to represent Cornwall liners that would otherwise have used a horse.
When inserting the Kronkite discussion earlier in this update, the UTRecht location of the Kronkite's was seen, and as Atrecht was also, Arras, the Artois capital, it stands to reason that Utrecht can apply to the ATRebates known to name Atrecht, and so UTHER is thus discovered as code for Atrebates in UTRecht. But the trace of "Uther" to the Other surname still stands because the Other-descended Windsors share the crosslets of Gore's in-code with "GORlois." There was no Gorlois, no Pendragon, no king Arthur. Dutch Beers/Bere's, by the way, were first found in Utrecht.
There is a possibility that Cranks/Kronkite's are Kron terms not of "Cronciaconnum." In any case, this section was written before suggesting the "Itte" trace to Kite's and related Kitts. Might "KronKITE" have been named from Kite's? The Massey-related Crone's have a branch sharing a Shield of lozenges with Bodegisel-related Grimaldi's. This can effectively trace Ida of Metz to Gorlois, not forgetting the apparent NINE code in the Metz surname, a code given also to Gorlois' Fey line in Avalon.
That was written before the following italics was added to this update: "...the Arms of AMAY are in Demy/DuMAY colors. The Arms uses the Meuse Shield, red Chief and blue-on-gold pale bars together, and, ZIKERS, the three blue bars can also be found (different positions) in the Babbwell/Babel Coat!" Isn't it amayzing that German Babels use Melusine, whom the Vere's placed on Avalon! Amay is where Bodegisel's wife was from!!!
The red Chief is also a Poppin / Mens feature, and the bars of Mannes'/Manners are in the colors of the Amay bars! That is very important, not only to help clinch the Mens equation with Maness'/Manners, but because Maness'/Manners share the peacock with Munts of Kent!!! That not only traces a slew of Mens kin to Amay, exactly where Pepins of Landen are expected, but traces the Mens liners of Amay associations to Amyntes...unless I was wrong to trace Mynetts, Hamonds and Muntz's/Munts to Amyntes, where they should all three trace instead to "Munderic." BUT WAIT, just compare AMAY to AMYntes.
With Mays suspect at "Amay," the Maio's may be too because they share an oak tree with Avalon-like Apollo's/Polloni's. The reason that "Avalon" was chosen for Bute goes back to Avallon of the Autun theater, which itself traces well to Avellino/Abellinum in Campania. As MacArthurs and their kin, the CampBELLs, were first found in the Bute area, it's good cause for tracing CAMPbells to CAMPania liners merged with ABELLinum elements that ended up on Bute, earlier called, Rothesay, the line that uses the raven, an Apollo symbol. The point is that I cannot trace Campbells/Cammells to Avellino if they derived exclusively from "Camulodunum," nor can we do vice-versa. However, we can trace Campbells to both Camulodunum and Avellino, for both were part of Arthurian myth. In Roman myth, the wolf line married a daughter of Mars, thus tracing the Hirpini of Avellino to the Marsi, and as Camulos was said to be Mars, one can thereby trace Camulodunum to Avellino's Apollo elements expected at Bute.
The Marsi were in Abruzzo, location of mount Maiella, named after a Maja goddess traceable to Maoi-like Maia of the Greeks. Was Amay from Maia Atlanteans?
As MacArthurs use a moline cross while Mars was anciently "Mamers" to the Oscans, let's ask what MumMOLIN was named after? Was he the line to the Molle's, the Moline's, Molays, and similar others? The Mumms use checks in the same fashion as Marks, whom are said to be from Mars, what a mamerincidence. Should we be tracing Mummolin's family to Camelot? Mummolin and Bodegisel of Provence were brothers, grandsons of Munderic, and Melusine of Avalon was traced to Guerin of Provence, suggesting that Guerin traces to Munderic's family. Guerins are suspect with Warrens using the Ward Shield while Wards may have been at Woerden. In any case, the Warrens use a Shield filled with checks, the symbols of Mumms and Marks.
Repeat: "...Scottish Kirks, using the Sword sword in both colors, have two "mum" motto terms buried while Mumms use the Moor head too. The Kirks use a crosier while Crossier's (checks) were found in the same place as Moor-head-using Bouillons." The Moor head can trace to William Gellone's ancestry in Berbers, predicting that this Berber line merged with the Munderic line, and so let's add that Claviere's, who merged with Munder-possible Mountains, were likewise first found where Bouillons were first found. Manders use the Rhodes saltire so that Manders can trace to Redones, the namers of the Rhodanus (Rhone) river, where Provence is located. Crosiers trace to the Creuse area on the north-west side of Auvergne. If I recall correctly (I can't get online to check), the Crosiers use the Warren Shield fully, giving good cause to identify Mountains/Montagne's with Munderic liners in southern France. It would be good to know where Bodegisel of Provence spread to, if anywhere. Crocs married Eschyna de Molle now suspect from "MumMOLIN" elements, and (if I recall correctly), she also married Pollocks who I see as cousins of Fullers = Roquefeuils.
Repeat from earlier: "The Kirks use a crosier while Crossier's (checks half in Mum-check colors) were found in the same place as Moor-head-using Bouillons. " The LIDDESdale location of Scottish Crossiers can therefore be suspect as a L'ITTE concept. Litts are traced to "grim," big hmmmm. Little's were first found in the same place as Molle's! Little's lived on the river ESK!
Of further interest is the sword in the Florence Coat in case the surname is from Florentinus (father-in-law of Munderic). Swords use the Moor head too, and Swords/Clavins are suspect in the Glavens/Hands while Claviere's use a hand. That seems like a tight-shut case, tending to clinch Mountains (said to be from MontIVER) with Munderic-Florentinus liners, but as Florentius married a daughter of RUSTICus, let's add that Montiver is in Languedoc, where Rus liners of the Roussillon kind lived. IN FACT, Roussillon is stamped on my atlas at the sources of the Aude (Aude's use only swords) and Orbieu rivers, near Roquefeuil, and I traced Roquefeuils to ROSTOCK! I had assumed that both were named after Roxolani Alans. Aha! A daughter of Roquefeuils had married Henry IV of RODES (Rodez), and Manders use the Rhodes saltire, thus tending to clinch a Munderic trace to Rodes>Manders line, and a Rusticus trace to Roquefeuils!!
I traced the heraldic orb of another surname (the Montreuils) to "ORBieu," and thus the Metz orb can trace there too. But see "Orba river" in the 4th update of last month for a trace of Carpenters, who were kin of Rockefeller-suspect Fullers, to both the Orba (where Marici and Statielli Ligures lived) and Provence.
There were a few centuries between Rusticus (Arthurian period) and Henry IV of Rodez (Templar period). It's interesting that one Henry surname uses the green that links to Herod Archelaus, while the other Henrys use martlets that can be anticipated with the Bodegisel > Metz line to Charles Martel. The Henry martlets are in the colors one would expect of Rodez. I had traced "Metz" some time ago to mythical Metis / Medusa, as per the trace of BaphoMET to the north-African entity. The reasoning had to do with Boofima-based Roets, who can of course trace to Rodez. The Roets descended from Payne Roet in the area of Montreuil (Picardy), and I linked the Montreuil orb to that of Metz's.
Here's what I said at the time
The orb is found also in the Montreuil Coat...And then there is a Montreuil location in Picardy, where Roets were from. Moreover, the white-on-blue Montreuil crescent is on "royal blue," the colors of the Shields of the Roets and Kerns upon which they place the Latmus moon god. It's a good match, therefore, suggesting that Roets were from the Metis / Medusa line to Montreuil of Picardy...Since then (2012), I noted that several Coats lost their royal blue, including the Aurelia's. Was someone trying to hide something? It's obvious from what's written above that "royal" is code for Royals suspect in "MontREUIL," and so let me repeat from the last update: "There's a good argument for tracing the so-called "royal blue" used by Biens to the Roys, first found in Lanarkshire, where I see the Blackwood ancestry of "bien"-using Carricks. Both Roy Shields are blue, and as I recall the Aurelia's used a royal-blue Shield..." That tends to clinch the royal blue (dark blue), which may have coined, "blue blood," from the Montreuils, Roys, and related others.
As the owners of the Catherine wheel are the Roets, they likely trace to "Rodez," an apt term for "wheel." But for me, this traces the namers of Rodez to Rieti/Raetia, at the source of the Salto, in which case Merovingians should trace to Rodez, and in fact I traced them to Redones by other methods before knowing that they originated at the Salto. I had also traced king Arthur to Redones, and so I am beginning to understand some details of what that entailed. It looks like it has to do with the Artemia>Munder line in southern France, and/or Merovingians in general. The Septimania part of Languedoc was traced to SEPTimius Severus, of about 175 AD, though it may have been named by any other Septimius.
Somebody out in Internetland Land has the history knowledge to figure things out more deeply from these preliminary leads. The importance may not be so much in what went on in southern France, but what it traces from in the Galatian line to Maccabees, for even the Galatians now tracing to southern France became suspect as Maccabee liners aside from their merger with the line of Tigranes.
I would have to say that the Tigh variation of Tease's is a vital key for tracing Teague's not only to Tigranes circles, not only to the Ticino-river Gauls, but to the Gaulonite ancestry of Caiaphas and/or Annas. I really am starting to think that proto-Teague's were at the root of Caiaphas' mother, the grandmother of Tigranes. On my scratch paper, Tigranes is a grandson of Artemidoros' wife or mistress. This woman is either a Julian-Caepio or a Pulcher-Caepio, acting tentatively as the mother of Caiaphas. The scratch paper has Opgalli as Caiaphas sister, but this paper was formed days ago, before seeing the "OPtem" motto term of Teague's, and before clinching, earlier today, the Tease/Tigh link to the Annas'. The fact that Teague's share the Julian and Gully crosses suggests that Caiaphas mother was a Julian-Caepio.
All of this assumes that Teague symbols relate directly to the picture a few decades before Jesus. The Time's/Timms were traced by good evidence to Timna, sister of Lotan, and wife of Esau's son. If this is what "OpTEM," refers to, and I think it's a good theory, then Opgalli may have been somehow known to be from Timna. One way to know is by understanding the Timnah location of Samson's "wife," which can be identified by the donkey-jaw symbol in Judges as an Avvite entity, and this traces to Julius Avitus, I reckon.
Let me show you the crossed keys in the Arms of Casteggio, in Pavia, and the following detail: Clastidium was a settlement of the Ligures, belonging to the tribe called Marici... The keys are colors reversed from the FIVE keys of Sheaves'/Chiapponi's (Abruzzo, same as Marsi, what a maricincidence). And crossed keys are in the Gully Crest, above the Coat sharing the Teague crosses in the same colors. It just so happens that the Caws use a version of the Gully Coat. It's tracing Julians and Teague's to Qewe, but with a Marici-Laevi abomination attached.
The Gully chevron is red, like the Quint chevron, but in both colors of the Grove chevron. Grove's (same place as Quints) are the ones using the "Ny" motto term for Joseph kin, as well as using two other motto terms that are apparently a version of the "ProDESSE" motto term of donkey-using Chamberlains. I had no idea the discussion would come to this when mentioning the donkey jaw above. No guff. One thing in this paragraph led to another, and the Chamberlain donkey came up by no plan of my own just after mention of the donkey jaw. Take it as you see it.
I arrived to Casteggio from Wikipedia's Ligure article, where it has a link for the Ilviates tribe, near Casteggio. I have no idea how to identify the Ilviates in any way possible. But they are interesting for attacking Placentia and Cremona not many years after Scipio retreated to those camps in 218 BC. In 197, the Romans subdued the Ilviates, but they don't strike any obvious chord with any heraldry I'm familiar with. But that can change by morning. My day is over.
Wait. Can't ILVI be LEVI? I'm shaking my head, chuckling at the simplicity of it, after thinking it impossible to decipher. And I wanted to know who they were only because they lived in the same area as the Laevi. The Ilviates were in the Marici theater, right? They have the look of "Liviates" for forming a Livius surname.
Good night!
Artemidoros As Caiaphas' Father; a Real Crab ShootGood morning. If there was nothing to these things, I would have quit long ago. But with each passing update, years long, more evidence, more leads, more understanding. I can't even see the end yet.
Tiger-suspect Taggarts/Teggerts (owls) are the ones sharing the "non vi" motto phrase of Chives', possibly being a good reason to view Tigranes as a Caiaphas liner. Opgalli, now suspect with Hobs/Habs, Hobbits and Hobsons (all three very linkable to the Arthur motto), was in time to be a (grand)daughter of Artemidoros. It's all speculation at this point, but Tigranes is dated such that his mother could have been Caiaphas' daughter. Taggarts are traced to "priest," but I didn't yet know this when writing the last sentence. Was Tigranes a son of Caiaphas' daughter / sister? Or, did he marry a daughter / sister of Caiaphas? Doesn't it make sense that a high priest would be chosen from the Maccabee line of Tigranes, since this line was willing to serve Rome? Tigranes did, anyway, and got to be king in Armenia for it. How sweet the Romans to dish out such luxuries. Tigranes' line was made the legate of Judea a century after Caiaphas, so why not also fill the high priesthood in the time of Annas or Caiaphas? There were other Maccabee lines, but the Tigranes one was from Herods, and they had served Rome well enough to continue as puppets until after Jesus.
The Gaelic word for priest is "sagart," not at all obliterating my suggestive trace of Tigranes to Taggarts. Was "Tigranes" the Persian / Armenian word for "priest"? Artemidoros' grandfather was a priest on the SAKARya river, what a sagartincidence. Was Tigranes the grandson of Artemidoros??? Persians had a Sagartian tribe that may have been of the Zagros mountains, says Wikipedia. DioNYSUS had a Nysus entity that I trace to Nuzi, beside the Zagros mountains, and he even had an alternative name, Zagrius. Dionysus had been the chief priest (myth code only for Nuzi elements) of Cybele, and she was on the Sakarya!!! This is all new for me; "Sakarya" just didn't click in my mind with "Zagros" all these years (probably because I didn't stress the Sakarya, and didn't know Cybele had her cult there until a few weeks ago). Brogitarus was the priest of Cybele thanks to Publius Pulcher's political strings.
I've got to say that the Irish word for "priest" derives from priests at the Sakarya. The river's name may have been named after priests in the first place, or the Galli priests there formed the word for priest after the river. My guess was that "Galli" derives in the neighboring Halys river. It seems that Sakarya elements were in Ireland's Taggert family, a term that looks like "Togarmah / Tocharian."
There is a Sachverall/Secharel surname that comes up as "Zachary." And while it's saltire in Hobsons/Hopson colors, Sachveralls are from a HOPwell location, There is a Hopwell surname (Derbyshire, same as Zacharys) with "red hares playing red bagpipes." I would ignore the Hare's because the hare looks like play on "hop," but the Pipe's = Pepins appear in code, and so do Bagg liners. The Zachary presence in Derbyshire, with potential therein to trace to Derbe, is a good indicator that Sachveralls were Sakarya liners. The white goat in the Sachverall Crest can be the Baut goat. The water bougets in conjunction with the "foy" motto term traces to Ile-de-France. While writing this paragraph, a Verall, then a Verell, surname was sought, without luck, and I wrote while waiting for Coats to load. The third attempt was for "Verel," and while it was loading the Ile-de-France sentence was being written; at that time the Verona's of Ile-de-France came to mind, and when getting back to see the progress on "Verel," there was the Verona Coat!
The Sechevaral location, as it's called, was held by a Ralph fitzhubert under the authority of a "Bishop of Chester" at the time of the Norman invasion of England. That's new to me. Who was that bishop? I'm checking..."Peter, Bishop of Lichfield, removed his seat from Lichfield to Chester, and became known as Bishop of Chester." At his Wikipedia article, he looks like a Pollock: "Peter had been a royal chaplain before being nominated [1072] to the see of Lichfield. Nothing else is known of his background, although presumably he was a Norman...It is possible that it was Peter, and not Robert [de Limesey] his successor, who pillaged the abbey of Coventry and was censured...Peter was buried [1085] at Chester." Peter Pollock, whose family was at Shropshire (beside Cheshire) before moving to Moray's Rothes castle, had a brother, Robert, what a coincidence. Plus, I traced Thomas Randolph (first earl of Moray) both the Meschin earls of Chester, and to a Ralph de Vere that I suspected to be in Cheshire in relation to Hugh Lupus, and here we have a Ralph character, as part of the Sechevaral entity that was apparently merged with Verals/Verona's/VAIRs, living under the authority of the bishop of Chester, whom I assume was Peter.
Ralph fitzHUBERT may have started the Hubert/Hibbard/Hibbet/HibBOTTs surname (Cheshire) that uses a crescent-version of the Sale / Cuff Coat. The surname looks potentially a branch of Hobbits/Hobbarts, in the same colors and sharing the flaunches with Wolfleys of Cheshire. Cuffs, Huberts and Wolfleys all use a sleeved arm in Crest. Hobbits were first found in the same place as Dunhams tracing on the one hand to Dunham-Massey of Cheshire, and, on the other, Dunhams use a version of a Randolph Coat so as to trace to Thomas Randolph of Moray.
Nicholas de Vere has said that Ralph de Vere was in BLACKwood, a Pollock-suspect entity, in Lanarkshire, the area where the family of Peter Pollock settled before he got to Moray's castle. Pollocks moved from the Shropshire area with Alans > Stewarts, and then the Blackwood Coat (Ayrshire, same place as Marjorie-related Carricks) looks linkable to French Alans and Plow-related Dole's and Bellamys (Shropshire). There's a plough in one Very Crest, and these Verys (Stewart lion?) happen to have been first found in Lanarkshire! This is important for tracing Pollocks to Cheshire, where Polten-suspect Polesdons were first found who share the Savona Chief ("Polton" looks like "Bolzano."). Polesdons are the ones sharing the Eustace stag so as to trace well to Bolzano, but let's not forget that Eustace's were of the Bauts/Bots' whose goat is suspect in the Sachverall Crest! This is good stuff.
Then, the Polton write-up traces to a Roger, under the authority of a fitzTEZZO character smacking of Tessy-sur-Vire! The Vires surname is listed with Verona's/Verels! This looks excellent for a Bolzano trace to rulers of Chester immediately after the Norman invasion, and in the founding years of the Templars. But they left Cheshire for the Glasgow / Lanark area. Does it make sense to trace Alan-related or Alan-associated Pollocks to the Vire area of Crociatonum? Pollocks were traced there already with the Glasgow-related Blacks.
"In 1102, Robert [of Limesey] was one of the bishops, along with Gerard, Archbishop of York and Herbert de Losinga, the Bishop of Norwich..." The latter's article suggests that "Losinga" (Normandy, apparently) might be a corruption of "Lotheringia," but, no, that's not correct, for Pula in Istria, if I recall correctly, it's in the Losinj area of Croatia. The Alans had been traced to Pula (shares a version of the Pollock saltire) along with Pollocks, and so one can perhaps trace the Alaunians of Crociatonum further back in time to Colchians of Losinj and Istria. Pula is also known as Pietas-Julia, linking to "Peter"-suspect Pettys sharing the elephant with Cobbs.
I have just found the Limes' (Cheshire!) using a string of vertical lozenges in Cock / Grimaldi lozenge colors. There is no doubt that Limes'/Limms are a line from, or merged with, Robert of Limesey. Pollocks were first found in the same place as Lombards with the lozengy Shield.
Coverts/Cofferts (Cuff liners?) came to mind with "Hubert," and then I traced the Covert fesse to Croatians. But this thought occurred less than a minute before the Croc/Croke surname (Shropshire) was loaded to find the same white-on-red fesse! And both surnames use martlets. Robert Croc (knight under Alan command) had married Eschyna de Molle, and yet she married an Alan, the first High Steward of Scotland, the Alan transition to Stewarts. Irish Crocs use a sleeve that traces to Manche, assuring Crociatonum liners.
Crocs use the Dein crescent, important because Crocs are in Camelford/Cummerford (= Gaulonite liners) colors while related Comforts/Comerfords use a "dea ne" motto phrase. It just so happens that Irish Deans use a CROCadile! Moreover, Coverts were first found in the same place (Sussex) as the English Deans using the red Croc crescent, used also by Blacks. The "nihil" motto term of Deans (and Zachary-related Vere's) traces to Neils/Nihills, wherefore it can go to the Neils/Nagels at Oneglia, the place that traces to the Unelli of Crociatonum! I've only just seen: Irish Nagle's lived in CORK!!!
The Crocs named Crookston and Crookisfeu in an area inhabited by Pollocks, and nearby was a Corker Hill. In an article on the latter location: "...the Levern Water is named after the Levernanii, a Celtic tribe who inhabited the area." As the Renfrew area, where Alans settled, had Jews, this tribe stands to have been a Levi-Annan combination. I think it was Eschyna's daughter (Isabel) who married Robert Pollock, who was the second Pollock, after Peter, or so I recall. The Pollocks have a Jewish branch, in Croc colors, but where did it come from? Were Pollocks always Jewish from their entry into Scotland? Same article: "There is also some mention made of later heirs to the Crookisfeu being John de Annesley and Adam de Glasferth." ANNESley? I had not yet come to that part when suggesting Levi-Annan. The Annas star is likewise in Croc / Pollock colors. And there is a Glass surname to go with Glasgow, but why does it have a FERTH ending? AethelFRITH liner?
http://corkerhillhistory.webs.com/earlyhistorycorkerhill.htmLet's just imagine for the moment that de Molle's were from MumMOLINs, for Mumms use the Stewart checks. Doesn't that work? Let's assume further that "ferth" traces to Ferte-Mace because the Croc sleeve / maunch traces to Manche, and from there we can trace the Stewart checks back to Massi's/MATTIS' suspect now with "Metz." It was Arnulf of Metz who was descended from a Bodegisel, and this line went to Charles Martel, thus being able to explain the Croc martlets. Moreover, as we saw that Gisels should be of the Grimo's and Grimoalds in Arnulf's family (Grimoald was Begga's sister), look at what else the article says: "...some Norman lord or his follower, like Croc at Crookston, de Nes on Leveran side or Grymketel on the ridge of Arkilston." A Mr. GRYMketel? This recalls the "kettle hats" used by Arms of PAPPENheims. Keep your eye out for the trace of kettle hats to Eschyna below.
The Irish Croc arm holds both a sleeve and a gold-on-black fleur-de-lys, the colors of the AshMOLE fleur. But why ASH? Was this the Assman line? I'll bet the German Ash's are using the BABENberg Coat.
Back to the Levernanii tribe, and a look at Levers. Back in 2010, I was certain that Clavers were Clare's: "For I have discovered that the Sinclair/Claro surname was also "Claver" (see second update of January), using colors reversed from the Grappe/Claver Coat. The Lever Coat is of obvious connection, but looks like a branch of the Kays/Keys as well, which is not surprising when seeing the key symbol in the Claver Crest...but ultimately from the Bellamy>Macey/Massey family which, as of only today, can be traced to Baums and/or Bamberg." I don't recall how the Masseys were traced to Bamberg, but they are tracing to Bebba in this update. Baumgardners are Jewish, and so Baums are expected to be as well. The Clavers are from Glaphyra, a "Jew" of the Herod kind, and yet she had a Maccabee as well that was more Jewish, and Levite, we may presume. Were Levers Claver or Levites?
Liebers (leaves) traced well to Aikens and Ackmans, suspect from Akmonia, where Assmans trace that use the Pepin fleur-with-bend. A little more than a month before the quote above: "...the Lever Coat seems to apply, showing the gold Sinclair rooster, apparently, for it's standing on a trumpet (a clarion, a Clare symbol, is said to be a trumpet). This Sinclair link to Levers, also "Leaver," may just prove that the Claver/Cleaver surname is a Clare variation " (2nd update of March, 2010). It's Arthurs who use the clarion (as well as rests), as well as Hicks of Clapton, a location tracing with Clavers to Glaphyra. And so the Levers are expected at the Quadratilla-Laevillus family that, although I have no historical proof for their being exactly at Qewe, continues to trace there. Wikipedia didn't show nor tell where in Cilicia the Quadratus family was ruling. It only says that they ruled in Cetis (without providing a link), which I have yet to research, if there is anything to find. Cetis already smacks of the ancient Cati peoples of the Qewe area that might just be in the cat-a-mountain code, because Mountains merged with Claviere's.
I write so much that I don't dwell on much of it. For example, I had forgotten that, in March of last year, I actually claimed that Clare's were Levi's. Perhaps I should have worded it differently. The problem there is that I trace Clare's to Clarus in Lydia. I had found that Laurens/Clarence's use two of the three Clare chevrons so that Clare's look like Laurens, and I was throwing some Lever-like surnames into the picture, such as Lowers/Louers. The latter share the unicorn with Gale's and Tints, and were first found in Cornwall along with Gale's so that they trace well to Tintagel. Gale's were found to be king-Arthur elements from Oneglia.
The Glovers were looking like Lowers/Louers, I said, but the problem is in trying to decide whether Glove liners are Clavers or something else. After realizing that the three Clare chevrons would be the three Levi chevrons if only the Clare's used black ones (both have gold Shields), a real head-scratcher all its own, the Levers were loaded (back in March) to find the gold Sinclair rooster, making it appear definite that Clare's were Levers / Lauers. And yet they also trace to Clavers/Cleavers and Claviere's. It's not fast and easy to sort these things out.
I was also on the Lowrys at the time, telling of their Glover-like Glowry variation, and it was found that Glovers (Norfolk, same as Motts and Clavers) shared crescents in Mott-crescent colors. Levers were first found in the same place (Lancashire) as Laurence's so that "Laur" and "Lever" look identical in stock. The Mopsus divination cult at Clarus was similar to the Daphne cult at Delphi, where she had a laurel symbol, used by Lowrys/Glowrys and Laurie's. If you want a headache or a difficult challenge, tackle all that. The Larks/Lauerks entered the picture too, before I knew Lurco.
The Levers may have been Glaphyra liners to begin with, but altered to have a Levi look for a reason. The Clare's may have been Clarus liners to begin with, but in all likeliness merged with all sorts of families from Israel's anti-Christ lines. I'm not going to entertain an evolution (in ancient days) of "Levi" into "Clarus" unless there is cause for it. There are different ways to do it in something like this: Levi > Alevae > Chalybes > Clavae > Clauer > Clarus. One could even get "Alba" out of that very quickly.
It would be interesting to know what the proto-Clare's were between Munderic and Rollo's grandfather, Eystein. Was he a Key liner? What was "Ey"? Don't the Levers use the Kay/Key bendlets? I claimed from the very start that Clairs before Rollo were at Moray. Peter Pollock ended up at Moray's Rothes castle for a reason. There was a Levernanii tribe in Peter's home town, if the writer above is correct. The term may be "Levern" rather than "Lever." It's now recorded.
Neils/Nagle's use the same-colored saltire at Zacharys/Sacheveralls, important where the latter are Vere's, for Vere's honor Neils in their motto. It just so happens that while the fitzHubert fellow in the Zachary write-up goes to the Huberts of Norfolk, that's where Zachary-like Seagars were first found, and they are in colors reversed to Zacharys. The Seagar moline is shared by MacArthurs in the same colors, and Seagars were first found in the same place as Clavers, Glovers and Louers. Plus, the Doria surname of Oneglia was first found in the same place (Genoa) as Segni's/SEGURana's (Hobson Chief?) using the Seagar moline (links to de-Molle's) in Zachary colors. Therefore, this Crociatonum discussion can trace to the Sakarya-river priesthood. Brogitarus-suspect Brocks (Vire-river code in motto) already traced to it.
Plus, the Prokopp/Brocuff sphinx traces to Spinks, first found in the same place as Fotheringay castle. It "was built by William the Conqueror. Walter Fitzalan, 1st High Steward of Scotland, founded Paisley Priory by charter in 1163, which was signed at Fotheringay Castle." "Fother" sounds like the "fetterlocks" used by a Moray Coat no longer displayed at houseofnames. It also sounds like the Feeter variation of Larins/Lauerins/Clarence's, a term much like "Levern(anii)." As the Larins/Lauerins were first found in Lanarkshire, beside Renfrew, that's very compelling already, even for a Fotheringay trace to the Levernanii, but let's add that the Moray Coat with the fetterlocks had the motto, "Deum Time," for a trace to Time's/Timms suspect with a Teague motto term, "optem." What other surname could "tem" be for? In this case, "Deum" suggests Edom, where Timna lived. Timna is expected in Seir lines suspect in the Sire's that link to Seagars, and it just so happens that they link to Sibals in the same argumentation while Sibals were of the Lundys that named Eschyna de Molle de Londonis.
There happens to be a Levern surname using the Moray stars in Chief. Therefore, I would suggest that the Verne variations are corruptions from an original "Leverne" that some members decided was not as nice a surname as "La Verne." The Foots and Fothes use chevrons in Levi- and Lark/Lauerk-chevron colors. The Feathers traced to the feathers of the Lights/Lite's honored in the motto of Ayers, from a land beside Renfrewshire. Fothes share the cornucopia with Orrs, first found in Renfrewshire.
By the way, with Gaulonite stock expected at Camulodunum = Colchester, let's consider the nails in the Arms of Colchester, for Nagels/Neils are also "Nail." My treatment on the Arms of Colchester is in the 4th update of this past December. I can comment further now. The "CRUX inSIGNIt Helenam" motto phrase of the Arms plays excellently to Crociatonum, but, as you can see, the Segni's/Segurana's are included, and as the "Helenam" motto term is said to be for the mother of Constantine I, it tends to verify the trace of his family to the Cotentin. However, some Helen-like terms have since become suspect with Gaulonites, and so see that the Arms of Colchester (webpage below) uses a cross in the colors of the same of CAMELfords! Plus, it's a ragully cross, and Raggs have been discovered as Dole's, Plows and Stewarts!
http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-94885618/stock-photo-isolated-coat-of-arms-of-colchester.html?src=&ws=1If the page disappears, see the Arms of Colchester here:
http://www.tribwatch.com/coatColchester.jpgLet me show one idea that leads right back to the Arduinici. Surprising. It starts with Perseus and Andromeda in Joppa, code for Parthians and Medes who together birthed Gorgophone (Gorgons of Phoenicia), mother of STHENelus, code for the Sithones. Trace Perseus to the Parthenius river smack beside the Sakarya. Next, trace Sthenelus of Gorgophone to king Sthenelus of Liguria, who birthed Savona, and already we are near the Arduinici theater of Saluzzo. And Pulcher lines are expected at Savona. Sthenelus' son, the CYCNus swan, traces to the KIKONs/Cicones at a Sale location at the mouth of the Hebros, the river where Arda is located. There is even a question as to whether "Sale" and the Salto river derive from the evolution of the Greek salt, called "hals," roughly the same as "Halys," to the Latin, sal. If that's correct, the Galli should be roughly an evolution into Salyes Ligures...whom I always connect to the Laevi. Compare "Chalybes" or "Halys" to "Salyes."
So, if Halybes were Levites in the first place, the Salyes, as unbelievable as it seems, could once have been Levites. There is also the possibility that "Lapith" is to be equated with the Halybes-like city of Halab/Aleppo, and "Ixion" the Lapith was suspect with "Kikon" i.e. smack at Sale! Plus, the Lapith, PHLEGyas, may trace to Pelagonia = the Stewart pelican line at Lyncestis, beside the swan-suspect lake of Lychnidus. And that's where fetterLOCKS should trace because Locks and Lokens/Lochs use swans. The Pulley/Pullen pelican can now be appealed to, to strengthen this paragraph because Pulleys share the red scallop with Savona's!!! The Sale fleur even trace with the Pendragon fleur to Lissus and Penestae, downstream on the Drilon that pours out the waters from lake Lychnidus. As powerful as this paragraph is, I want more evidence that Salyes were Levites. First of all, it is by no means certain that Halybes were named after an evolution from "Levi." But the arguments here are worthy of further investigation.
Next, trace the Sithones to Stone's (same place as Pendragons and Rogers) sharing the gold cinquefoils (same colors) of Ardins/Ardens and Hurts!!! That is the surprising part, but then the "ObSTANTia" motto term of Arthurs is for the Stane's that share the Taggert bend, and for the Stants/Stane's said to be from "stone." Let's return to the Lever Crest: "A rooster STANDING on a trumpet, all proper." If it were not referring to the Arthur clarion, the standing term might apply for nothing, but in this case, it should be for the Stands/Stants/Stane's...who could be using a version of the Lever bars! Yes, I think so. The "all proper" is likely code for Propers sharing an ostrich with Lois' = GorLOIS, secondary father of king Arthur.
The Stone's have a split Shield in the colors of the same of Cage's / Gate's, and then Teague's are also "Caige." That could bring Sithones, and therefore the proto-Seatons/Sittens to the Tigranes line. Stone's and Stoner's both use eagles suspect with the eagle on the black stone of El-Gabal. The Stoner eagle is in the colors of the Doria eagle. The Stein/Steyn bend-with-faces is in the colors of the Arden fesse-with-cinquefoils, good for tentatively tracing Steins and Stone's to Bolzano. There was all sorts of circumstantial evidence tracing proto-Arthurs, or Arthurian liners in general, to Bolzano. King Arthur was a Merovingian entity, and others have trace Pollocks to king Clovis, while I say that proto-Pollocks named Bolzano. Long before tracing Eustace to Bolzano in the last week or two, Eustace had traced to Merovingians.
Proto-Rothschilds trace to Bolzano. Rothschilds are listed at houseofnames with RothSTEINs sharing an eight-pointed star with Dutch Steins. Rothschilds traced to Lurco, and Larks use a 16-pointed estoile for what must be the great-mother of all estoiles. The eight-pointed star of Ishtar, when used in heraldry, is highly suspect with the Brogitarus priesthood. It predicts that his priesthood traces to the naming of Istria, where Pollocks and Alans trace. As Steins come up as "Stem," perhaps the "stemmata" motto term of Cobbs applies.
Proto-Rothschilds are partly from a daughter (Lady Rothes) of Peter Pollock. It could have been something else that named Bolzano as "Bozen / Botzen," but Bole / Pollock / Bullock liners are suspect at "Bulzano." As Bolzano and nearby areas of Maccabee importance are in South Tyrol, where elephant-trunk Thors/Thorns were first found, it's interesting that Cobbs use the elephant. Bullocks are using the white Trunk bull heads while Trunks are honored by Thors of Tyrol. Moreover, Pettys, who use the elephant too, had traced to Istria's Pietas-Julia location (Pola), exactly where the Pollocks traced, which is why I trace Alans there too.
The "keeper of bullocks" in the write-up suggests that Bullocks (Pollock colors) use a version of the Hebron / CHILD/Chill Coat (because Hebrons of CHILLingham use a "Keep" motto term), and then Chills/Childs happen to use a colors-reversed version of the Tarent Coat!!! Belissimo, for Bolzano is at upper Trento. This Bullock family must be part of the Merovingian Quinotaur (sea bull), for the Bullock Crest has "FIVE Lochaber axes with gold handles and silver blades, bound with a scarf." That description using BLADES is evidence that the Pollock saltire used by one Frank surname traces also to the Blade saltire, itself in the colors of the other Frank saltire. This is why I view the English and Scottish Frank surnames as from Merovingians in particular.
Trunks were first found in FRANConia, where Salian Germans came out of, suspect from the Salian Frank ancestry of Merovingians, though Wikipedia didn't make the link the last time I read on it. Franconia was merged with Bavaria (as the Arms of Bavaria will verify), where Bolzano elements must trace! Rothschilds appeared, I think, in Franconia, and, by the way, those mystery Jews of Renfrewshire, shouldn't they include a whack of lines to various proto-Rothschilds? Recall that the Levernanii-suspect surname(s) traced to the fetterlocks of Moray, for Rothschilds trace to Rothes castle at Moray.
The Alan fesse is red like the Lieber fesse, and both use the oak theme with their fesses, suggesting rather hard that Levernanii were Lieber liners. And the Lieber Coat is connectable to Akmonia-suspect Ackmans just because a Laevi line is expected at Akmonia. As this Laevi line is the one expected in the veins of Caiaphas and/or Annas/Hanan, it looks like the killers of Christ trace to the Levernanii and Alans of Renfrew together. It begs the question of whether the Levernanii were in Renfrew before the arrival of the Dol Alans, and, if so, why did Alans go live there? Or, did the Levernanii arrive to Renfrew with the Alans? From the 3rd update of last month: "But whose red-on-white fesse is in the Scottish Leavell Coat? I'll bet it belongs to Liebes'/Liebers."
Dionysus was the chief priest of the Galli queers to which OpGALLI seems to belong. If "queer" bothers you, I could use worse terms. If you have proper disgust for homos, "queer" becomes a too-nice term. If you are not disgusted with the politically-correct trend of queer-acceptance, you have a problem. Fix it before you share in the Wrath slated for queers. Why do Gays use a rooster? The Galli should now be viewed as possibly proto-Salyes. The Bruce lion, which is the Caepio-line lion, should trace to the lion symbol of Cybele because she was the Phrygian "great mother" while Bruce's trace to terms for Phrygians. Yes, I trace Bruce's to a version of "Aprutium / Aphrodite / Abruzzo," but Aphrodite was a Heneti entity (as per her line to Veneti = Venus) while it's known that Heneti lived on the Parthenius river of Phrygia. So, PHRygians/BRIgians were likely named after proto-EBURovices such as the ancient Apiru/Abiru. Cybele looks like a Hebrew dog, the unkosher pork of the pagan Hebrews.
Amazing, while Taggerts use owls, the Owl/Howl surname was first found in the same place as Tigers! We needed that. Taggerts show owls in the colors of the Josephs martlets / swan, all in Levi colors! Howells, first found in MONmouthshire, where Haskels were first found who share the vair fur with Esque's/Esquibels, perhaps having to do with "Eschyna," for the Monmouth surname (same place as Jeffreys) is linkable to the Mauds with Molle-like Mold variation. The Haskel page will tell you why KETTLE hats should trace to Haskels, for in fact "kettle hats" are another name for vair fur. The only surname I know of (or can recall) that calls them kettle hats are Pappenheims.
The double-black fesse bars of Monmouths and Molds are feasibly in a larger version in the Coat of Stands i.e. in the Arthur motto. The point is that, if Eschyna's Molle surname was from MumMOLIN, it makes sense where he was of the proto-King Arthur cult that needs to trace to Wales one way or the other, and Monmouth is in Wales. It's in southern Wales, where the Merlin portion of Arthurianism lived. Merlin is expected as a Mar liner, perhaps, and Mars are known kin of Erskins/ESKIN i.e. having an Eschyna-like variation.
The Pense Coat (accessed from the Erskin/Eskin motto) looks like a version of the Haskin Coat, and the latter looks to be sharing the Cage / Gate Shield, important where Teague's are also "Caige" while Gace's use the sort of thin double bars of Monmouths and Molds. It would not be illogical to trace Munderic's family to Mons, the Hainault capital that uses the three Levi chevrons. Mons can then link, perhaps, to the naming of Monmouth, which is beside the place where Meyseys were first found who can trace to Amay, the city married by Munderic's grandson. An important point for tracing Meyseys to Monmouth is where they were a branch of Maceys sharing the gauntlet glove with Veyne's/Fane's, first found in Monmouthshire. The gauntlet glove traces to Gaunt, in Belgium.
How important is the Taggert owl? Levi-suspect Spanish Olive's use a brown owl, the color of the Taggert owl, no surprise. What were Owls and Howells that they should link so closely to Caiaphas? It's recalling olive oil the Dulys/Oyle write-up. The Stoner / Doria eagle is in the colors of left-facing eagle of Artois'/Ardons (same place as Tigers and Owls/Howls!), and in the latter's Crest there is the red griffin of Holtz's that come up as "Hoel." Is that the Howell / Owl line? Whenever an heraldic symbol is HOLDing something, is it at times code for Holtz liners?
I've just looked up Holts to find a "squirrel holding a hazel branch," traceable to the squirrel of Decks/Daggers, thus making "TIGRanes" suspect with "DAGGER" as well as tracing him to Laevi on the Ticino. The double Holt fesse bars (where have we seen double fesse bars before?) are colors reversed from the fesse of squirrel-using Hazels, and while both use "grove" in their write-ups (complete garbage = deliberate code), Grove's happen to share the black talbot of Dawsons who are known to be a branch of Haslips! The latter are honored in the so-called "hazel SLIPs" (LEAVES!) of the Hazels. We are not stupid, we get their game.
Plus, the Mens'/Mengzies use a motto phrase as code for Islips/Haslips while the double Holt bars are colors reversed to the same of Maness'/Manners who traced to Munderic with certainty! GrOOOWWLL, we needed that in a Tigranes discussion. The Maness/Manner bars traced to the same-colored ones in the Arms of Amay, so ameusing. That means that Hazels and kin trace to Munderic, so amayzing because I claimed that Hazels are Has liners expected to be kin of Mon liners in making Hasmoneans. PLUS, the Dulys' likewise use double bars (bends in this case), in the colors of the Amay bars!
Grove's were first found in the same place (Essex) as Quints, share the red Quint chevron, and use the Capes / Happs/Epps/Abbs scallops upon their chevron. The Abbs variation of Happs is now suspect with the Hab variation of Hobs (linked in the Arthur motto with Lever-suspect Stands). The Grove motto could be code for Dawson liners. In any case, the motto suggests the Dess/Dash surname (compare with Guerins) first found in the same place (London) as Capes'. I was waiting for something like this, for while Dess'/Dash's are said to be from, D'Assche," German Ash's/Aschs share triple red-on-white chevrons with EPPsteins, linkable now to the Epps variation of Happs'.
In this picture, where the Metz line (engaged by the Munderic family) traces to Bebba / Aethelfrith, these triple red chevrons are linkable to those of Babenbergs. However, let's go back to the idea wherein the Levi triplet would be formed if the Clare's used black instead of for their red triplet of chevrons. It could indicate that triple chevrons are Levi liners, or owned by Levi liners and forbidden for use by others.
The feet positioning of the Grove / Dawson talbot is that of the Stewart stag. The near-identical talbot (white) of the Stone Crest has one foot off the ground like the Power / Sullivan / Roger stag (Powers are traced to a Pois location near the Dieppe of Dawsons). Powers are using a version of the Palin/Pawley Coat suspect with the Livings/Levins, and then the Pawley-like Powells are said to be from "Hoel." The Powells use the same griffin in Crest as Hoels/Holtz's, but not in the same colors. This is all perplexing because the Powell write-up would have us believe that "ap-Hoel / ap-Howell" was the original form, thus obliterating a "Powell / Pawley" trace to such terms as "Pulcher / Pollock/Polk / Poole." Or, if the trace stands, then one is led to believe that all of these P-terms have origin in Howells. I can't swallow that. An explanation is needed.
Powers can trace exactly to the Holts, thus clinching a Power = Powell equation. The way to make the trace is by way of the Paw-surname peacocks. noting the Power-like versions of German Paws. Then, the peacock is in the Crest of the Maness/Manner surname that shares the double fesse bars of Holts in both colors. Peacocks are a sept of Pollocks. Therefore, I say that "Powell" was the original form (of that branch) and that it got reduced to "Howell / Hoel" by some miscalculation of the Welsh use of "ap."
There is a subtle code in the "hazel BRANCH" of the Holts. The Branch surname happens to use a version of the Taft/Toft/Tuff Coat while the Holt motto term, "ExalTAVIT," seems like code for Tafts. This can go to the "tuft of grass" used by Bosco's/Boists, and the "tufted and maned" tiger of Medleys. Why maned? English Maine's, same place as double-chevron Ash's, use double-red chevrons (lesser-class of Levi liners?). Look at how the French Mane's (Savoy) have Mynett-like variations...which I will trace to "Amyntes." I tend to link Branch's (suspect with D'Avranches) to Hamon(d)s whom I likewise trace to "Amyntes." The Mane's are apparently a branch of Moneys/Monets (Savoy again) said to be from "Hamon." So, you see, the Holts really trace to this thing, and it gets them back to Amyntes, whose family was propped up by Publius Pulcher, the one to whom "Powell" traces, the Powells who had linked to, or branched off from, Hoels/Holtz's.
The other Moneys (near MONmouth) use another griffin of the style used by Powells, with three roses on stems in its mouth traceable to Chambre's from the Arc river where Modane sits. Holts are Has liners, and together with Money liners, this picture is a Hasmonean one out of Modi'in and into Modane. The red roses on stems traces also from the Avezzano's and to Aves'/Avisons suspect with Apphus Maccabee, himself suspect from Appius Pulcher. Kennedys use a motto in honor of Aves'/Avisons, and I trace "Kennedy" to the "Heneti" smack at the Parthenius / Sakarya theater, the latter being where priestly Taggarts trace. Reminder: Avisons / Avezzano's trace to Chivasso and therefore to Chives' sharing the moline with the Taggart-suspect Seagars, Segni's/Segurana's, and MacArthurs. It is very conducive to Caiaphas being a nephew or father-in-law of Tigranes.
On my scratch paper, I have Caiaphas as either the father of Opgalli or her brother. I have Tigranes as a possible son of Caiaphas' sister, daughter of Artemidoros. Is this too bold too early?
While Spanish Olive's share the brown owl with Taggerts, the Crest of Scottish Olive's (double-red chevrons) happens to be quartered in colors reversed from the Chives quarters. What are the chances of that after all that's already been said? Scottish Olive's were first found in the same place as Quince's and Fotheringay castle.
I was just having lunch with a battle in my heart, thinking everything possible to resist telling the following story. I don't like telling things like this at the risk of being taken for an nut. Not that I mind being a nut so much, but that I don't want to spend my time in this work in vain. During lunch, I said to the Lord that I would tell the story only if something comes up to make it compelling. And something just did come up, even while I had the carrot in my hand as the final part of the meal.
When I was about 12 or 13, and beginning to hang out on the wrong side of the tracks, I got into a bout with a "friend" (not for long) with a Powell surname. I don't even remember his first name. On the street, he lobbed a stone at me from about 50 feet, maybe more, and I lobbed it back at him. We did this over a half dozen cycles, I wasn't counting. It was a very unusual thing. Some years later, I heard that he was tossed off a bridge to his death due to a drug deal gone bad. I've told this story before, but can't recall what I said, aside from linking Powells to Bridge's. That's the point here, but I didn't want to re-tell the story now just to make that point, even though it helps the Powell problem greatly by tracing Powells to Phrygians, right? Unless something else cropped up, I wasn't prepared to tell this story.
I am NOT suggesting that God had Powell tossed off a bridge to make a point here some 35 years later. The theory has been that God, who foresaw me typing away on this project, would make unusual things happen to me, beforehand, that would help solve the dragon riddles. And these events would just pop to mind at certain times during writing, and then work out so well in the surname department that it compels me to tell the story. In this case, Bridge's need to trace to Powells, and the trace has got to be important enough to warrant a special event in my life.
So here's what happened. During lunch (computer shut down) I was asking myself how Powells might trace to Bridge's, and the only thing coming to mind was a CHAMbre trace to CAMbridge's who can also be viewed as CAMBRidge's as part of a CHAMBRE line. That's about it, and Powells did seemingly link indirectly to Chambres' just before lunch, as per the Money griffin, which is brown, like the owls. But I wasn't prepared to tell the story on that.
After lunch, the Bridge's were loaded. They are said to be from Bruges of Belgium, and from ARCHER-Stoke, and they happen to use a "GARDeray" motto term, perfect for tracing to Pulcher-suspect Gards. A Powell trace to Pulchers could explain the need for a special event, and the Pulchers are expected in the land of Phrygians. The other point by extension is that Pulchers got to Wales as Powells (and Howells?). Bridge's were first found in the same place as Leavells, in Somerset, near southern Wales, around the Gloucestershire corner from Monmouth. And Villa Guardia is about two miles from Pulcher-suspect Appiano. The Bridge Crest even shares a white tower with Gards for a compelling Bridge trace, all told, to pelican-using Pulleys/Pullens.
The other Bridge's use crabs, and that's where Cambridge showed up, as the place where Crabs were first found. That's when I decided to tell the story again. The white-on-blue fleur of Crabs can be traced to the king that gave that symbol to Plows, a term, hmm, that's consonant-reversed from "Powell." The Crab chevron is also the Gard chevron, no surprise, but if Gards are Herods, then Crabs could be Agrippa's.
Crab-using Bridge's have what looks like a version of the Branch Coat, and then it was the Holts (suspect with Powell-related Hoels/Holtz's) who use the "hazel BRANCH." But what I had forgotten is that the Cambridge surname shares the white-on-blue patee cross with Plow-colored Blois' (house of Chatillon) so that, indeed, Cambridge's (and the Cam river there) do trace to the Arc river and therefore to Chambre. The Arc river is why "ARCHER-Stoke" was highlighted above. It looks like Plows, suspect as a Bellamy branch, are a branch of Blois'. The way to know that the "quam" motto term can at times be code for the Cam / Cambridge liners is to see it in the Cambridge motto.
Apparently, Phrygians were at Cambridge; it wasn't named after a bridge. Apparently, it traces to Chambre and/or to nearby Chambery. But if the message is to trace Powells to Cambridge, then with CHAPmans and CAPONE's first found there, it suggests Publius Pulcher, supposedly born from a Caepionis surname. Could "POWELL / Pawley / Pavilly" be from "PUBLius"? Peeble's use the parrot, and I think Perta may have been part of Phrygian domain.
If Gards are not Herod liners, then perhaps from Valerius GRATus. Eburovices-suspect Priestlys/Presleys, who share a white tower with Gards, translate their motto, "ReGARD the END." Irish Grace's translate, "On grace depEND." The Lurch-suspect Enders, I assume. The tigers have been mainly white, and then Crabs use a WHITE lion "claw" with a DAGGER, suspect with "TIGRanes," and one Grace Crest is a white lion too. If Crabs were Agrippa Herods, or even from Julius Agrippa, uncle of Julius Bassianus, one could expect Crabs in the Grasse / Antibes area. The Crab "claw" gives a Boofima impression, which was at the Nagle's of Oneglia, and white lions are used also by Monaco's and Monks who trace to Isle of Man, where Haslip-loving Mens/Mengzies trace who are tracing alternatively to Amay. I had traced Boofima to Massena-related Numidians, and here we find Amays as kin of Meyseys and Meuse's. The African Meshwesh were also "Mazyes." These were Amazons of Mysia, and one could expect them in the Pelops > Atreus > MENElaus line to Atrebates and various Men-like surnames. With Atrebates known to be in Atrecht n(south of Belgium), and suspect at Utrecht (north of Belgium), their branches would be expected between the two locations, which is all of Belgium.
The namers of Belgium were traced to mythical Bellerophon, whose partner was Pegasus, and that horse was born from the head of Medusa, suspect both as a branch of African Amazons, and with mythical Metis that should be in "BaphoMET," and so Bellerophon and his horse can trace to Metz (on the Moselle = Little Meuse). The Metz surname is where Massey / Bassianus liners have traced, and Masseys (kin of Bellamys) use the pegasus, as do Nagle-related Angels/Angle's. The Pegasus Gorgons were at war with the Chimera dragon that was given a goat head on it's back, and a goat head is that of Baphomet, implying that the Chimera Cimmerians from Kamiros had merged with the Pegasus Gorgons in forming the dark and ugly Templar god. You could probably trace that goat back to shaggy Esau, and to his son's marriage with shaggy Seir (i.e. with Timna of Seir), and thus trace it to the Time's/Timms of Kent, where Massena Numidians can be traced with little doubt. The Massins/Masons of Kent, from Zenata of Numidia, use the lion of Louvains, likewise first found in Kent along with Brabants, and the latter two are from Belgium.
Someone emailed to say that "Georgia" can be a form of "Horus." Upon looking at it, I tended to agree that the possibility existed, using the similarity between "Hros" and "Gorg(on). But I trace Horus to Horites of Edom, who were merged with Seir. "Hros" can become "Gros," and "Gras." If you look at Gorgon heads, they look like they belong to fat = gras peoples. In any case, the leopard face's of heraldry are suspect with the Boofima leopard symbol while face's were an old symbol of the Gorgon Medusa. Greek writers had a good time with this: her face was so ugly it killed. One can trace this theme to ugly Hephaestus, an Amazon line, and the Gorgon sisters were kin to the Graeae hags that I've traced to Grays (share the white lion with Monks)...but now also to the GRIS/Gisel surname! Zowie, that's all too logical not to be true. The Gris' = Grimaldi's of Monaco, right? They trace to Munderic and Bodegisel, right? The family that loved Metz, right? And they led to the Carolingians using footless martlets that I once entertained as symbol for lame Hephaestus.
Crabs are said to have a Crail variation, suggesting the Grails/Neils, while it just so happens that German Nails/Neals/Nagle's use the same saltire as Greats/Grete's, but unfortunately, I haven't been able to clinch any Gratus-like surname with Valerius Gratus. To whomever the Greats may trace, it's important that the Nagle fesse is in the colors of Amay, for there is a lot tracing to it. The Valery Coat has a wave in the colors of Amay. It begs the question of how many lines from the circle of Christ killers were up in Belgium, and why? Had they all banded together from an early time?
After writing to quite a ways below, the Brule write-up was read, which speaks on a Gace Brule character of what looks like the Champagne circle, and related to Hugh de Payen's Champagne connections. Gace lived at GROSliere. The point here is that Brule's use the Pilate pheons so that Gros elements can trace to Gratus, for he was the Roman governor of Judea immediately before Pontius Pilate had the job. While Pellets and English Pilotte's use grails, the Gros' use laurel while laurel in grails are used by Lowrys and Laurie's. It just hit me that the "RePULLULAT" motto term of Laurie's looks a lot like "Pilate."
With Amay now linking to Meyseys, one can expect Amay to be an Amazonian line, and then Artemia is named after the Amazon goddess, as was Artemidoros, son of AMAY-suspect AMYntes. Artemia was of Lyon, which had earlier been LUGdunum, named after the sun god, Lug, whom myth writers located at the Isle of Man. The sun god, Attis, had been a son of Manes, myth code for Maeonians that can trace to the naming of Man. The idea here is that the Attis line of Hatti became the Lug Ligurians, and it's from a Numidian-Ligurian mix that I expect the formation of Hasmoneans / Maccabees. However, Artemia's father, Rusticus, because he's suspect with Roxolani (to be understood as Ros-Alans), should not trace to African Amazons, but to a migration of Hros liners across Europe. While Artemis was the goddess of war, Hros-suspect Ares was the god of war. To some, they were the most-disgusting, but to the disgusting they were the most-glorious. The irony is that the most-disgusting can look beautiful on the outside. Ask the chief priests of Israel.
As Roxolani shared the Buzau-river area with Cotesii, one can glean a trace to Cotys, who was sometimes made the father of Attis. The "Nihill" variation of Irish Neils is in the Vere motto while the Verys / Averys (lions paws) had traced to Ivrea, right? But proto-Vere's are expected with Roxolani at Rostock, weren't they? How do we get Mr. Rusticus at Lyon connected to the Arduinici of Ivrea across the Alps? By the Herod liners in Lyon, right? But wait, didn't Arduinici trace to Alauna? Yes, and that's where Roxolani can be expected. If Alauna was named before Rusticus, one may tentatively assume that his family originated from Alauna.
I had assumed years ago that mythical Rig was of the Roxolani. Rig was likely code for Rugians. In one chapter: "The god, Rig, surely depicted the Rugians, of Rogaland, Norway, a region bordered on Haeredaland (Hordaland). And Haeredaland was, surely, a settlement of the Aereda/Redones. The Rugii left Norway to settle Rugen, a large Baltic island just east of Rostock off the coast of western Pomerania." You can Herod-like terms here tracing to Redones. Here's from the 2nd of October, 2011:
The Raiks/Rakes (griffins) then use what looks like a version of the Tolkien Coat. This paragraph was born of the Ayrshire motto, "God shaw the Richt," and assumes that Reichs and Raikes were Shaw-...related, before I had entered "Rick" (griffin)...to find what looks like the fesse-crosslet combination (thin fesse, like the Alans) of the Angain/Gain Coat (the Angain Coat is essentially the Alan Coat).The Rick/Rix write-up: "In this case the surname was originally derived from the Old English word risc which refers to those individuals who lived near the rushes." Garbled-ee-gook. Instead, the write-up is code for the Rush surname that uses the same-colored fesse as the Ricks.
Ricks and Rush's share the horse, and to Nordics, a horse was a "hross," like "Hros." In the quote above, you can see how Ruggi / Rig liners link to Alans of Dol, and yet I now have the problem of explaining an Alan-of-Dol trace alternatively to Lyncestis way down south. For the time being, I've got to assume that two Alan branches had a re-union in Alauna and/or other parts of the northern European coast. The Rick and Rake griffins can trace to the Griffin surname of Pomerania, a land smacking of "Fomorians, the peoples to which mythical Lug belonged. The proto-Alans of Dol are expected to have become the mythical-Gorm Dane's to Bluetooth that got maritally involved with the Mieszko > Swietoslawa line, and then the Ricks traced to Richeza (Carolingian) of Lorraine, a wife of Mieszko II Lambert. I suppose that's like saying that Roxolani got to Lorraine's Carolingians, and Lorraine is where Metz is located.
Nancy is a major part of Lorraine, and one can see the gold Templar flag of Jerusalem in the Arms of Nancy. It's the flag on the breast of Godfrey-de-Bouillon at his Wikipedia article. It's a little interesting that the main symbol of Nancy is a thistle, shared by Paisleys, from Renfrew along with the LeverNANII tribe. I wonder, was that tribe partly from the namers of Nancy?
The only Nancy surname (Cornwall) is listed with TrenGOFFs/TrenGROVE's, and uses what could be the Sinclair crosses. Gophers/Gofers (Este colors) use the Nail/Nagle saltire in colors reversed while Nagle's had traced to Gale's at Cornwall's Tintagel term. It's suggesting that the birth of king Arthur has something to do with Nancy of Lorraine, if the TrenGoffs were Gopher liners. The Lorraine's are likely using the Piast eagle in the white color of the Este eagle, the latter eagle shared by Barrs of Bar-le-Duc (Lorraine), and so the eight-pointed estoile of Nancy's plays well to Este liners. Plus, English Este's (horses) were first found in the same place (Norfolk) as Grove's and Gore's, the latter tracing to Gorlois at Tintagel! Gore's even share the crosslet style of Tints.
Moreover, the Morte's/Motts share the eight-pointed estoile with Nancys while "Le Morte D'Arthur" was code for tracing Morte's/Motts to Avalon, where the Gorlois liners were traced by the myth writers. It just so happens that while Morte's/Motts are said to be from Cotes-du-Nord, beside Dol, they were first found in the same place (Norfolk) as Grove's and Este's! That tends to clinch a Nancy/TrenGROVE trace to Este's and therefore to Nancy of Lorraine. Trens are listed with Trents, first found in the same place (Somerset) as same-colored Tints, begging the question of whether "Tint" was a corruption from "Trent."
I can now trace this discussion to Eschyna de Molle up in the land of Levernanii! For, the white "couchant" lion of Tints is the so-called "sleeping" lion (white, identical) in the Arbor/HARDboard Crest. The sleeping theme is used in the Roet sleeping moon, and Roets were first found in the same place as Tints. But there must be a reason as to why Tints call it couchant rather than sleeping. Let's add here that since the sleeping theme goes to Endymion of Latmus, beside Clarus, that Nancy's/Trengoffs are likely using the Sinclair cross.
The Arbord HARDboards can now be suspect as Herods of the king-Arthur kind because Rounds (Essex again) likewise use a sleeping lion while Table's (as per Arthurs "round table" code) share HURTs with Irish Arthurs. The Arbor/Hardboard Coat is a version of the Eschyna-suspect Haskin Coat, and Molle's (Roxburghshire) share the white-on-blue boar with Couch-like Gouche's/Gooch's, likewise first found in Roxburghshire. As Eschyna de Molle married Alans, it's not surprising that German Molle's use the fleur in the colors of the Dole fleur, which are in the colors too of the Molle boar. Couch's (bear) look like a branch of Dulys/Doyle's, important because one Dole surname had a Doyle variation. As the Dulys bars had traced to Amay, where Bodegisel got his wife, let's repeat that MumMOLIN was Bodegisel's brother, grandsons of Munderic.
To put the above in short form, Eschyna de Molle traces to King-Arthur Tints while king Arthur had been suspect from Munderic's marriage to Artemia, wherefore Molle's can again trace to MumMOLIN. Moline's were first found in DARTington of Devon, beside the Tints and Tintagel, and Wikipedia's article on Clan Pollock says they use a dart in their boar. Eschyna's descendant (daughter, I think), married Pollock.
Rounds share annulets with Rush's, but that alone is a weak argument for tracing Rush's to Rusticus (father of Artemia). Once can add that Darts/Darths (D'Arthurs?), in Irish Arthur colors, first found in the same place as Dartington, share a white-on-red fesse with Rush's. Moline's of Dartington were first found in the same place as English Stewarts, while Mumms use the Stewart checks on what can be the Dart Shield! That is compelling, and has convinced me that Mummolin traces to Moline's.
As "Le Morte D'Arthur" was code for Morte's, so it was clever code for Deaths/DARTHs sharing white-on-black crescents with Morte's/Motts. To help prove that Deaths/Darths were Arthur-Clare liners, they use the Pembroke griffin. The point is, Deaths/Darths were first found in the same place as Munts, Mynetts...and Ruste's/Roosts!!! Coming right after the Dart/Darth revelation, one is compelled to identify Ruste's with Rusticus.
Of further interest, the Roost saltire is in the colors of the Sinclair / Nancy cross, and I have the sense that Rusticus should trace to Lorraine, location of Nancy. While Nancy, an Annan- / Annecy-like term, gave me the impression that the LeverNANii could trace there, the Ruste's/Roosts (red wyvern) share black fitchees with the Hanna Crest. To help trace Ruste's to Devon (i.e. location of Darts and Moline's), their red wyvern is in use in the red COCKatrice of the Devon Ash's/Esse's (Ruste colors). The Aikens share red roosters with COCKS, and Aikens trace to Levernanii-suspect Liebers (!!!) and Ackmans, for a trace all the way back to Akmonia, where Munderic traces. It's like this discussion has found the "holy grail" of Arthurianism in the Galatians suspect with the Maccabee king-priests of Israel. It's the Harlot, isn't it? This is the line to end-time globalists who foolishly bring the world to an end with their persistent globe-trotting. We await their next moves in the Iraq theater.
Reminder: the Molle fleur had traced to the same of ASHmole's, and Aikens etc. traced to Assmans / Assmans/Ashmans. The Ashmole / Molle fleur are in colors reversed from the Pepin / Assman fleur! I didn't realize this the last time that the Ashmole-Molle link was made. Ottingers, first found in the same place (Bavaria) as Oettingen-Oettingen, use the Ashmole quarters in colors reversed, making Oettingens suspect with Otters/Others for which Uther Pendragon was made code. The Oddie's and related Odins were proven to be of the Oettingen line, and Oddie's share the Gopher/Gofer / Nagle saltire for a potential trace to Nancys/TrenGOFFS (Cornwall), thus tracing Oettingen liners to Cornwall, where: 1) Pendragons were first found; 2) Nagle-related Tintagel is located; 3) the Assman unicorn should trace, likely to the Gale / Tint unicorn.
We would now like to know whether the RASmussen variation of Assmans is for a line of Rusticus. The fact that Assmans were first found in Hesse traces them well to the Ash/Esse surname, the Crest of which links to the Ruste Crest. Odins use a lion in the colors of the Tint lion, and as that couchant lion traced to Gouche's/Gooch's/Googe's, lets add that the GOFFS/Goughs share the latter's white-on-blue boars, the Molle symbol too. French Goffs (Dol) use the Papenburg/Pape talbot heads, but the talbot is also an Oettingen-Oettingen symbol. The three Goff talbot heads are a colors-reversed version of the three Hull talbot heads, and Hulls were first found in the same place (Yorkshire) as Odins and Oddie's. There was a fundamental equation between Munderic's family and king Arthur, with Eschyna-de-Molle lines coming from it and linking to the Uther liners that included the Lombardy-Other lines that must have led to Lombards/Limbaugh's, first found in Renfrewshire. Interesting here is RUSH Limbaugh.
Pollocks were traced to Valentinian I. There wasn't a lot of time between he (350 AD) and Rusticus of Lyon, and it just so happens that there were good reasons for tracing Valentinian to Valence, less than 50 miles downriver from Vienne, and about 60 from Lyon. The Valentin squirrels have been traced to Herod liners of Vienne, but it's the Valentin bend that's suspect with the Jewish Pollock bend. The Rush's happen to use the same colors, so let's repeat that I see the Frey / Phreeze horses, in the design of the white Rush horses, as using the Valentin / Lyon color scheme in colors reversed for a kinship reason. It's like saying that proto-Frisian Phrygians, who trace to Frigg (wife of Odin_, by the way, were involved with the Lyon area, and that's indicative of the Galatian line of Artemidoros that's expected in the Rusticus picture. Phreeze's were first found in Essex.
Rusticus and Quadi LinersHmm, "During his reign, Valentinian fought successfully against the Alamanni, Quadi, and Sarmatians." I haven't known this consciously all the time while mentioning the Quade's these past few weeks, and while I traced Quade's to Aide's, what a cosmic coincidence it is that the Ade bend was traced with little doubt to the Valentin bend! Here's from the 3rd update of last month:
The other Stephensons use the same bend colors as the Aide bend while sharing leopards faces on their bend with the Aide bend. The Stephenson leopards are in the colors of the Valentin squirrels on the same-colored bend, assuring an Aide link to Valentinian and/or Justine (his wife)....Aetheling-suspect Athols were looked up to find three more black bars, this time in Levi-chevron colors. In the meantime, the Ace surname was checked to find it as part of the Assi surname (Shetland) using the symbols of Justine's, first found in the same place (Perthshire) as Athols, and smack beside Sterling, where Chappes' were first found. Aide's are using the Valentin bend, right?
Let's look at the Quadi, and see if you can't sense the Laevi line to Laevillus as per the MARCOmanni. It's perfect, a perfect reflection of what I've been writing for two or three weeks, that a Laevi - Marici migration from the Ticino ended up at Mr. Laevillus at Qewe before becoming the Quade surname. Plus, as I claimed that the formation of the Maccabees were from Boii, note how Quadi allies migrated to Bohemia, as though they went, perhaps, with the Boii. The Boii are stamped on one map beside the Hercuniates suspect from the Hyrcanus Maccabees:
In the 1st century BC, according to Roman written sources, the Quadi were migrating alongside the more numerous Marcomanni, whose name simply means the "men of the borderlands" [disregard this simpleton idea that crops up anytime "Marc" is found in a term] living on the frontiers [term used to support "marches = border" idea] of Germany......There may be an earlier reference to the Quadi in the Geography of Strabo (7.1.3). In a parenthetical expression, often removed from the main text, he mentions a branch of the Suevi called the Koldouoi...Part of their range is Bohemia, the domain of Maroboduus. The emendment of Coldui to Coadui (Quadi) is generally considered correct.
Tacitus in Germania only mentions the Quadi in the same breath as the Marcomanni, alike in warlike spirit, alike governed by "kings" of their own noble stock, "descended from the noble line of Maroboduus and Tudrus," the "Tudric" line apparently kings among the Quadi.
This is quite helpful, for I had found reason to trace the Taddei surname to Welsh Tudors, and here we find a king Tudrus of the Quadi involved with a Coldui peoples who may or may not have been Quadi. For weeks now, before knowing of this, I have been tracing the Colts/Celts of PERTHshire to Perta at lake TATTA, where I have been tracing Tattons, Duttons, and similar surnames, where "Taddei" can certainly apply. It could look, therefore, as though Tudrus and the Coldui were from a peoples at Tatta, exactly where I claimed that the Artemidoros line had been. Recall the Mens/Mengzes' at Culdares.
The wolves in the Quade Coat had been traced to the wolf symbol / peoples of Lycaonia, and Tatta was in Lycaonia. I think we have something here, but let's not forget that this article came about by supposing Valentinian links to Rusticus, who was himself traced to Artemidoros. The triple red chevrons became suspect with Levi liners, and so let's add that Taddei's use three red chevrons.
It's of interest that the Colts/Celts use the Pontius-Pilate pheon, and so one could seek a Pilate theme in any history books on these matters. The timing of the Quadi and Marcomanni is smack before and at Pilate's lifetime. My guess is that the Coldui ended up at Perthshire with the line that birthed Pilate there. I have no idea as to when they may have arrived to Scotland, but the de-Molle line might be helpful. Molle's are in Pilate colors, and their trace to Akmonia is not distant from Tatta. Seagars trace to Akmonia because both were on the Sakarya, and Moline's share the moline cross with Seagars, another reason to trace MumMOLIN to Akmonia. You saw several de-Molle-related surnames above that were first found in Norfolk, where Seagars too were first found. It's also where Sawyers (martlets) were first found that share checks on a fesse with the likes of Mumms and Marks! And wonder-of-wonders, the Sawyer motto traces well, better now than ever, to the Trevors, for in the Trevor write-up you will find them fundamental with Tudors!!!
Plus, the Qewe-suspect Cowes' use pennants as code for Pennants that share the Trevor Coat! Zowie! I know how much you love that old word. It reminds me of getting an electrical shock. I have a John-Yonge Coat in my files that is a copy of the Trevor / Pennant Coat, and then pennants are used also by Catys'/Caddys (Quadi?), in the colors of the similar piles (Pilate symbol, I gather) of Yonge's/Youngs. English Yonge's, sharing the black wolf with Quade's, were, once again, first found in Norfolk. The Catys/Caddy Crest is the red rooster of Aikens!!! Zowie, what a jolt! You can start to ask seriously whether Catys' are honored in the cats of Chives' that share the black Moline moline. Again, there was a Cati peoples in Cilicia that lived at or beside Qewe. The Cati are in many of my files, and were from Cilicia's Khassi area, which I think was identical to Kizzuwatna. As Cilix = Cilicia was made the brother of Cadmus, the Cati were likely the Cadmus-line Cadusii. Hermes and his Cadusii Armenians were proto-Germans, right, especially the Herminones.
Note how late the Quadi were to the knowledge of the Romans; the latter scum had scouts everywhere to discover every-possible intelligence for world conquest. Yet, "...the Quadi and Marcomanni migrated into what is now Moravia, western Slovakia and Lower Austria where they displaced Celtic cultures and were first noticed by Romans in 8-6 BC..." It's feasible for some Artemidoros or Tigranes line out of Cilicia / Lycaonia to have started a tribe from the Caepio gold. Gold speaks for ruling a peoples. Gold allows one to set up a leadership position, and fast. One day, there were no Quadi peoples, the next day, they are an army.
Moravia was between Bohemia and Poland. Let's re-mention that Peter Pollock ended up at Moray, but note too that Molle's use the Moray stars. Scottish Moray was called, Moravia, too. The Quade wolf heads are used by a branch or Irish Mackays/Queys, and Scottish Mackays/Queys were at Fortriu = Moray, right? The Sutherland stars are said to be the Moray stars feasibly for that reason of the Sutherland Mackays being at Moray.
I've never been able to decipher the motto of Irish Mackays, possibly because it's the English translation that's in code, for one of the terms is translated "reSTRAIN," for which reason the Strains (share the blue stag with Hanna's) were looked up, listed with Strachans/Strawns. They use a "timeo" motto term jibing with the "Deum time" motto of one Moray surname, and then use a "caveo" motto term that helps to assure their link to Mackays. That is, when finding that Strains/Strawens were first found in Kincardine, I searched "Kincardine" in this update, bringing me back to the following statement: "See Kincardine's and Cardine's/CAWardens in the last update for links to Leavells and Caiaphas liners of the Cowie/Covie kind." Let's add that Mackays are also "CAW," and that they too use a stag.
The Strain/Strawn write-up says that the family derives its name from "Strath Aan," and for once it looks like no code tricks are being played, for this looks absolutely true in that Anne's/Hanne's share the stag with Hanna's. But who were the Hanna's? I can answer that now, for the Eustace's had traced to stag-using hands, and the Stacey/Eustace branch uses the Strain/Strawn stag design exactly, as well as the ANNANdale saltire in the Coat as used by Bruce's (the latter had a line in Galloway, location of the Hanna's). You can make a further trace of this picture to the Bruce lion, between stag supporters, in the Arms of Macclesfield, for I have seen another Arms of Macclesfield using the black Hanna fitchee.
Let's scoot to MaroBODuus (concurrent with Caiaphas), a Quadi ally, asking whether he traces to BODEgisel:
"Maroboduus (born c. in 30 BC, died in AD 37), was king of the Marcomanni. The name "Maroboduus" can be broken down into two Celtic elements, maro- meaning "great" (cf. Welsh mawr, Irish mór), and bodwos meaning "raven" (cf. Irish badhbh).{citation needed}" Maroboduus was born into a noble family of the Marcomanni...As a young man he lived in Italy...He was the first documented ruler of Bohemia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MaroboduusThe writer doesn't mind using a far-fetched derivation for the name, using Welsh and Irish words to define it. The writer claims that Maroboduus is a Celt name rather than Germanic. But seeing that he's from Italy, what ails these types that they wouldn't consider a trace to some entity in Italy? What about the Botters, or the namers of the Bodencus? Who go to Wales and Ireland seeking the meaning of the name? And as he's a king of the MARComanni, why not view "MARobod" as a Marici / Marcus entity, for Italy had no shortage of Marcus'.
After Marobodus retreated to Bohemia, "Catualda, a young Marcomannic nobleman living in exile among the Gutones," defeated and ousted him. As Maroboduus then went to what looks like house-arrest in Ravenna, the Wikipedia writer above may have gotten his brainstorm from that, figuring that he was named after a raven. Perhaps the defeated king choose to live in Ravenna because it's where he had been in the past. Ravenna is on the Italian coast directly across from Bologna i.e. it can reveal and explain Maroboduus' Boii links, but the writer has no kindliness to mention this. It's like the writer is closed, and doesn't want to give away too much of what he knows. Tudors and others in Wales does play into this, yet he doesn't mention that either. Ravenna is near the mouth of the Reno, and the Reno lozenges were found with Cochs...suspect at Commins Coch in Wales. The Coch lozenges are in the colors of the Cock lozengy, and Cocks (kin of Grimaldi's that trace to BODEgisel) use the red rooster too, as do Catys/Caddys.
Later, Ravenna would become the Lombardy capital, and so a trace to the Lombard/Limbaugh lozenges is possible because I traced RENfrew to the Reno river. One may even glean that the "Reno" and "Ravenna" are identical stock, but that would be theory only at this point. Some thought that Ravenna was also "RASenna" that could explain the Rasmussen variation of what I consider Akmonia liners. The Maschi's were not far south of Ravenna at Rimini at least, and Maschi's use the pine cone as part code for Cone's and related Conte's that led to Conteville's of Commins Coch.
"Catualda" smacks of something that the Catys surname, or the Cilician Cati, could trace to. I've mentioned over the past couple of years that Cattolica, south of Ravenna a small ways, was not named originally after Catholicism, but was altered to that term by Catholics. I trace the fret-using Cattle's to Cattolica, but now compare with "Catualda." The fret is used also by Duttons who share a version of the Tatton Shield so that Cattle's may trace to Cati liners at lake Tatta. Caddels even share a red stag head with Colts/Cults, and were first found nearby in Banffshire, which is essentially at Tarves and Rothes, on the east side of Moray what a moravincidence. The Blake's are listed also as Caddels, and so if they trace to Pollocks of Renfrew, that's another way to trace Renfrew's namers to the Reno and/or Ravenna. Zowie, I identified all three Peter surnames with Peter Pollock at both Renfrew and Rothes, and then the raven is used by one Peter surname as well as by Rothes, thus tracing that raven to Ravenna, I must assume!
About 15-20 miles south of Cattolica is Fano, traceable to the Veyne's/Fane's that share gauntlet gloves with Wayne's (Valentin colors), which is being repeated because Valentins, first found in Vicenza (about 80 miles from Ravenna), show a VAIENti variation. As Wayne's share the pelican and the same-colored chevron with Irish Arthurs, this has the effect of tracing Arthurs to Valentinian liners, and tracing them all to the Pulchers. It makes the white bend of pelican-using Pulleys suspect with the white Valentin bend, and for this point compare the two bends with the color variations of the Dober versus Doberman bends.
As I traced the 600 Benjamites of Rimmon to Rimini, let's add that the Yonge's, now tracing to the Quadi king (Tudrus), share the annulets of Benjamins (Norfolk again). Compare "Benj" with "Banff." I can't imagine what named Banff, but the Bengs/Bings/Binks -- likely a branch of Pinks sharing the Reno lozenges -- are using the Chives quarters while Chives are said to have lived in Tarves just a fling of a moline boomerang from the Banff border. The "Teubor" motto of Bengs/Binks is almost "Tudor," and the Beng Crest has an upright stag, symbol of German Jungs/Yonge's/June's. The Beng lion may be the Raines lion, for I trace Renfrew to Raines' (and Wrens).
Aha! As Pontius Pilate was suspect in this discussion from the time that the Coldui entered it, see the white pheon (Pilate symbol) in the Binkley/Bingley Coat and Crest! The black Binkley scallop can trace to the white-on-black ones of Flecks because the latter use a version of the Palmer/Parmer Coat (Yorkshire, same as Binkleys) while both share the double, black-on-white fesse bars of Binkleys. Palmers/Parmers, in Chives colors, share a "VirTUTE / virTUTI" motto term with Chives', suspect with Tatta-liner Toots/Touts.
From the Quadi article: "Their frontiers for the next 350 years or more were the Marcomanni to the west, Buri [Hebrews?] to the north, Sarmatian Iazgyians and Asding Vandals arriving to the east somewhat later..." The Sarmatians of that picture could have included the Roxolani; the Vandals, who had a city of Venethi (in Poland, i think it was), could have become the Veneti at Vannes, Brittany, the area where Alans settled. That makes sense, and assumes their founding Alauna in the meantime. But the Veneti became the Gwynedd Arthurians in northern Wales, what I call king-Arthur's wife. The obvious question: did the Vandals (= Wends, likely namers of Pendragon-related Windsors) come to Wales with the Artemi line to king Arthur, or did they arrive separately?
"Valentinian died in 375 after having received a deputation of Quadi to discuss a treaty. The insolent behavior of the proud barbarians so enraged the emperor, apparently, that he died of a stroke." Valentinian's family continued to rule Rome, and the Quadi may have made some alliances with the family that involved inter-marriage. In that way, Quadi liners of a Valentinian kind could trace to the bend of Jewish Pollocks. The idea now is that Quadi had been from the Reno theater long ago, and Reno liners, by that name, named the Rhine river. I traced Reno liners to Renier/Rainier of Montferrat, and so let's add that the Mumms and Fers/Ferrats share the same-colored checks. Can this predict that Reno liners amongst the Quadi, Marcomanni, Sarmatians and/or Buri passed through the family of MumMOLIN? Doesn't his line need to go to Renfrew's de Molle's? It could appear that Reno liners named Rennes along the way.
The Buri are suspect in becoming the Vere-beloved Eburovices, and if correct, the Buri look like Abruzzo liners. Abruzzo's were first found in Padova, and in fact they were first found in Aquileia, the city that the Quadi attacked, the city suspect for naming L'Aquila, now the Abruzzo capital. Why did the Quadi, when they finally got past the Roman guard further north, decide to attack that city in particular? It was in the land of Italian Veneti, suspect in founding the Vandals at Venethi.
I didn't know until after writing the above that Wikipedia has an article on Rusticus, a bishop:
...He was the son of Aquilinus (c. 430-c. 470), nobleman at Lyon...and his wife Tullia (born 410), and the great-grandson of Decimus Rusticus and his wife Artemia, and also of Saint Eucherius and his wife Gallia. He was also the brother of St. Viventiolus.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Rusticus_(Archbishop_of_Lyon)
That can trace him to Aquileia, connecting him with the Quadi. It begs the question of whether VIVENtiolus was the root of the Vivian/Vey surname (purple lions) that I trace to Gorlois' Avalon. Like the Nancy's, Vivians/Veys were first found in Cornwall, and you are about to see Vivians tracing roughly to a surname using the Nancy cross. The article above names Arthemia as Munderic's wife.
Rusticus' mother, Tullia, can be root to the Tewel surname that was checked earlier when finding the tulips of Kite's. The Tulips are also "TEWLop," but here we find the Tewels/Tuells using three pale bars and a Chief, the format of the Arms of Amay, which was found to be a version of the Meuse/Muse Coat, a very big coincidence where Meuse liners had been traced to Avalon along with Vivians many years ago. The Dutch Veys sharing the boot with Messeys/Massa's can also link to Dutch Mackays (share the Massey horse, I gather), and Mackay liners are so-highly suspect with Quade's, while the Quadi were so close to Maschi's or Rimini, that this story implied by heraldry has got to be a match with the true history of the Quadi. As Mackays were first found in Sutherland, the Tuwel/Tuell stars are suspect as the Sutherland stars in colors reversed. The Tewel/Tuell Chief in colors reversed becomes red.
The Kite's had been suspect with Itte of Metz, and so one can use this to help prove that Kite's were from Itte just because Tulips/Tewlops and Tewels are tracing well to Rusticus. Aha! There is even a Tullia surname with one pale bar in the colors of the Tewel pale bars!!! And Tullia's were first found in Dauphine, location of Lyon!!! Was this a Toulouse line?
The Tullia BUTTERflies suggest Botter lines. Butters (hearts) share the black Nancy cross, and while first found in Fife, are said to be from ARDoch of Perthshire...roughly where the Fife kin of Vivians (both share red Chiefs with Amay and Meuse's) lived. One couldn't ask for a better trace of Vivians to Arthur suspects than those at an Ardoch location. It may be of Ardea on the northern end of the Butteri cowboys in the Pontine, a term like PONTIUS Pilate. REMINDER: Rusticus' granddaughter (Arthemia) married Munderic, who was "Vitry-le-Brule (Vitry-en-Perthois now)", which was fairly clinched with Perthshire, and herein (the above) is more evidence. ZOWIE, the German Brule/Brewell cross is the Nancy cross! I didn't know it when starting this paragraph, nor was it in the planning to mention Munderic or his Brule title in this paragraph (it was an insert later on). MOREOVER, French Brule's (Champagne) are the ones with pheons in Pilate-pheon colors!!!!!!The original paragraph ended at "PONTIUS Pilate." I then inserted the reminder not knowing that it would find the Pilate pheons in the Brule's. Amazing. What does it mean?
I've just been to the Mont Pilat article for the first time in years, to discover as Pert-like location: "The [Pilat] massif generally rises about 1,000 metres (3,300 ft) above its surroundings. Perdrix (Partridge mountain) rises to 1,431 metres..." It's not me who originated the idea that he was born in Perthshire. The Pontius-Pilate mystery has just gotten hotter. Mont Pilat is due west of Vienne and less than 50 miles from Lyon. Mount Pilat is south of the St. Etienne basin; the Arms of St. Etienne use BOTTONy crosses in Pilate- and Brule-pheon colors. Both are in the colors and format of the Faucon/Falcon Coat, that being the surname to which I've traced Conte's. Faucons are being mentioned here due to a Faucon location near or at Mont Pilat. The Botton/Biden Coat is a red-on-white fesse, the colors of the Arms-of-Bolzano/BOTSEN fesse. The white Faucon towers trace to the same of Gards at lake Garda near Bolzano.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mont_PilatThe BRUGel variation of Brule's/Brewells reminded me that Bruggs (said to be from Brugg, Belgium) likewise use a black-on-white cross. Isn't this the BROGitarus > Amyntes line Munderic? It sure looks like it.
The "deus" motto term of Butters suggests the Deas' using one pale bar and first found in neighboring Angus. The bees in the Deas Crest may be playing to the bees on Valentinian III.
Where was my head? I head mentioned many times over the years that a certain bird was in bullRUSHes, but I often cannot remember the surname, but just now it came to mind. It's the Perts/Petts! "A silver stork beaked and legged red on a mount with bulrushes..." That tends to reveal that Rusticus was a Rush liner, and later I'll expand on that.
An early John Tew (Tewel write-up) married the Howell castle, evoking the Bridge-related Powells. That picture traced to Blois', and then the Chatillon partners of the counts of Blois used three pale bars, as indicated by the three Knight pale bars (first found in the same place as English Blois'), and so the Tewels/Tuells (bars identical with the Knight bars) are expected from Blois liners, and thus figure as DULys / Du-Lys liners. It recalls that the Dulys/Doyle bars can trace to the Arms of Amay. In other words, Tullia and Rusticus trace to the Du Lys family of Joan of Arc, and, therefore, the Du Lys' are NOT to be viewed as Lys liners to begin with, but rather the Tullia > Dulys line morphed into looking like a Lys line (perhaps due to marriage with Lys', for there is one Chatillon location in Aosta, where a Lys river flows to the Bautica (or so I've read). There was a Bauto character, the military commander for Valentinian II.
Doesn't Chatillon, in this picture, suggest Cattolica elements? Here are the Arms of Chatillon, sharing a gold Chief with Tewels/Tuells, and using what could be construed as three pale bars in colors reversed to the Tewel/Tuell bars. Chatillons above were from Chatillon-sur-Marne (west side of Meuse), which is spelled, "Chalons," on my atlas. We read: "The counts of Chatillon added to their title that of prince of Porcien," evoking Porcius Cato, who grew up in Abruzzo. I have traced him to the Cato/Chattan surname sharing the Botter bend. The Knight spur traces to Spurrs and Botters too.
French Chalons (Burgundy, covered Lyon) share the bend of Porci's, and Porcia's share the black boar with Ebers now suspect with the Abruzzo-suspect Buri. Welsh Chalons (Powys) are sharing cherubs with the Saints who trace to Lemnos, where the city of Myrina was located that traces to "Marne," the river upon which Chatillon/Chalon is found. With Porcius Cato of Abruzzo tracing to Lemnos, Aphrodite, wife of the Lemnian god, comes to mind. Although I identify her as the proto-Eburovices, she was of the Heneti that founded the Veneti after whom her Roman counterpart, Venus, was apparently named. Cherub-using Tacks/Thackerys have traced to the Sakarya, a river beside the Parthenius upon which the Heneti lived. The Kite's / Kitts could trace to Kition on Cyprus, where myth writers envisioned Aphrodite's birth, but Aphrodite's Lemnos was directly off-shore from Troy, where mount Ida was located.
The writers of the Venus surname must have stayed up all night trying to figure a way to trace it to the Sakarya. They ended up tracing "Venus" to the German "Vogelsang" and defining it as "'bird' and 'Sang,' meaning 'song'". Note that they couldn't help but capitalize, "sang," for they revered their Sangarius river, didn't they? What fools. Venus' were first found in the same place as Mynetts and Munts (i.e. the Amyntes family that had the Kybele priesthood on the Sakarya). Read on to see how Sangers trace to Rusticus, no small point for linking Amyntes' family to Munderic (married Rustica's daughter). We have arrived. I can now explain the missing links between Artemidoros, Artemia and king Arthur. The only thing left to do after that is to find Caiaphas' dirty sock in king Arthur's mouth.
It looks like Clan Chattan was at proto-Cattolica, and so let's repeat that MacinTOCHs were a Clan-Chattan member. There is a good argument here for tracing Tocharians to the Sakarya. Mythical Teucer was a son of SCAmander, what I think is a Saka-Maeander code. The Saka on the Maeander, that is, named SAKarya, but the Teucer Tocharians were involved too. Chatillon-suspect MacinTOCHs are suspect with Tocharians, and Tokers use a sea horse while Chalons use a sea wolf. In this picture, Batia, Teucer's daughter and mother of Troy, traces well to "Padova," from Padasus in the Troad. I'm therefore expecting the Munderic and Rusticus families to have been Trojan lines.
I'm recalling that cherub-like Crabs had worked into the Bridge-Powell story, and Capone's were first found in CamBRIDGE. Welsh Chalons use the colors and format of Campbell-colored Camps and Capone's, and as I trace Campbells to Campania and Avellino, it's notable here that the house of Chatillon was of Champagne/Campania elements. As Campbells/Cammels are suspect with Kemuel, whom I trace to HAMELtons (Renfrewshire), look at how the Chalon write-up, though tracing to Chalons-sur-Marne, also has the audacity to trace to "BLANKet," code for Blanks sharing the Hamelton / Bus cinquefoil.
While in the Ravenna article earlier, I took a quick look at the list of local towns and villages, when a Gambellara caught my eye. I wasn't going to mention it unless the Gamble fleur came up, which it did in the Porci Coat. But I now recall that Spanish Petro's use the same fleur colors, and we are soon to embark upon the bloodline of emperor Petronius Maximus tracing to Peter Pollock more than he should, if it were not correct. The Falts also use the Gamble fleur, and they are now suspect with Anicia Faltonia Proba, Petronius' grandmother. Scottish Falts use a "MENTE manuQUE" motto phrase of obvious importance, looking very linkable to the "Manu" motto term of Mackays/Queys. That's one way to trace Quadi to Valentinian, for Petronius was a Valentinian supporter and gave his son in marriage to a Valentinian.
Finding the Quadi in the north-eastern part of Italy plays well to expectations for the Israel priesthood's origins from there. But how it all happened is not expected to be written in the plain black in white of any historical records, unless those records were seized long ago. But if God intended that this thing should be known in the last days, there will be sufficient records to make the discovery in an undeniable way. With the Marcomanni and Quadi, I now think, we are very close to the remaining missing links. But with the Buri thrown in, surely, they were Hebrews. The naming of Herod's mother is suspect from Cyprus. The Coopers are using what looks like the Macintoch leopard. Scottish Coopers: "A hand holding a garland all proper." Why proper? English Coopers: " A demi leopard guardant, PROPER ducally crowned silver, holding in the dexter paw a holly branch fructed PROPER." Why DEMI? The Demys are in the colors of the Copper saltire, both in the colors of the Arms of Amay while Amays are suspect with the DuMAY variation of Demys. The latter are said to have lived at Lemnos-like Leme, and to have settled Botter-suspect Poitiers. But why are Coopers so in love with Propers/Robins? The latter are about to trace to a certain person in the Valentinian family.
The Marici had lived in / beside the Montferrat area, as well as on the Ticino. The checks of the Mark surnames, one of which is Jewish, because they are expected to link to the Mumm checks, indicates that Marcomanni had gotten to Mummolin's family. Heraldic checks may thus trace to CZECHoslovakia, for Bohemia and Moravia made up virtually all of Czechoslovakia. PODEbrady in Bohemia looks named after MarBODuus. George, son of king Andrew I, supposedly married a woman in Podebrady, and he/they named their son, Maurice, and Marici-like name. It could be that George married Marcomanni. The Valence's share blue-and-white horizontal bars with Drummonds, the latter known to be founded from Maurice above.
The Arms if Richard Amerike (Welshman) use pale bars in the colors of the Drummond bars (Moray colors). The gold lion in the Amerike Crest is now suspect with the Trevor-Tudor lion! Welsh Maurice's use a gold lion too. French Maurice's use the Moray stars. The Amerike fesse-with-stars, in the colors of the same of Bolzano (related to Bologna), are in Scottish-Drummond colors. The Welsh Merik surname was first found at Mona, at the Gwynedd part of Wales.
Here's an alternative Arms of Richard Amerike showing what looks like red and gold fesse bars, nearly the Coat of Scottish Drummonds...first found in Perthshire! Richard was the likely namer of America, and the Moray stars are likely the stars on the American flag. America looks founded by a bunch of Bohemians in white aprons.
The Moline's are said in their write-up to be of the family of the "tanner" of Falaise, whom I trace to the Tanaro river flowing through Montferrat. Here's from the 4th update of last month: "Wikipedia's article on Ligurians: "Marici (near the confluence of the rivers Orba, Bormida and Tanaro)"..." The BORmida might just have been of the Buri.
The Quade article goes on to say that Quadi left proto-Czechoslovakia in about 400 AD, about 50 years before the birth of Rusticus of Lyon. And Valentinians named Valence near Lyon, right? Valence's inhabitants are called, Valentinois.
After crossing the Pyrenees in 409, a group of Quadi, Marcomanni, and Buri, established themselves in the Roman province of Gallaecia (modern Galicia and northern Portugal), where they were considered foederati, and founded the Suebi kingdom of Gallaecia. There, Hermeric swore fealty to the emperor in 410. Bracara Augusta, the modern city of Braga in Portugal, previously the capital of Roman Gallaecia, now became the capital of the Suebic kingdom in Gallaecia.Gallaecia existed under that name (essentially) centuries before the Quadi arrived. But why did they go live there? Were these old Galatians from the Artemidoros Galatians? And why are they called Suebi? Were they also from mount Sabina? That's the home roughly of the Marsi! Mount Sabina is on the Abruzzo border. And this can explain why there is a Portuguese Abruzzo/Abreu surname.
The article on Gallaecia includes Alans amongst the Suebi at the time of the southern invasion: "On the night of 31 December 406 AD, several Germanic barbarian tribes, the Vandals, Alans, and Suebi, swept over the Roman frontier on the Rhine. They advanced south, pillaging Gaul, and crossed the Pyrenees..." This was before the arrival of Attila.
It's been many years since being at Wikipedia's Alan article...with a map showing migrational routes for the 4th and 5th centuries. In one wave, they go through Albania, explaining the Lyncestis bunch. The line goes roughly or exactly up the Sava too, home of Alan-like Valentinian. However, the line to Normandy does not come from Lyncestis, and it fails to place them at Alauna too, which for me is a deliberate failure to hide their presence in Alauna. The line goes only through the Evreux area of Normandy, and has them settled around Alencon. The same lines goes down into Spain, showing a large settlement area in south-central Spain, but does not go into Gallaecia, and precedes through Numidia to Carthage, then across the waters to southern Sardinia.
On my atlas, the area in Spain that Alans settled is called, La Mancha, smacking of Manche at Alauna. How about that. I wonder how the western coast from La Mancha became, Valencia. The latter uses a gold wyvern, the Wessex symbol too. Judging by the Wikipedia article, no one knows what La Mancha was named after, meaning that the Stewarts aren't telling. If you look at the sleeve / maunch symbol, it has the look of an upper-class Spanish piece of clothing.
I did not know of this article when mentioning Valence above:
[The Alan Huns] crossed the Rhine in 406 AD along with the Vandals and Suebi, settling in Orleans and Valence. Around 409 AD they joined the Vandals and Suebi in the crossing of the Pyrenees into the Iberian Peninsula, settling in Lusitania and Carthaginiensis...They crossed the Rhine in 406 AD along with the Vandals and Suebi, settling in Orléans and Valence. Around 409 AD they joined the Vandals and Suebi in the crossing of the Pyrenees into the Iberian Peninsula, settling in Lusitania and Carthaginiensis...In 428 AD, the Vandals and Alans crossed the Strait of Gibraltar into the North Africa, where they founded a powerful kingdom...These sons of Hell circled Europe killing and stealing and wiping out for the sake of their own stomachs. The heat of Hell has been turned up awaiting their arrival. Look below at the symbol used for the Numidian Kingdom of the Vandals? Why did they go to Numidia? Had they been Massena liners until then?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vandal_KingdomDigging further, it came to a GodiGISEL character that looks very linkable to Bodegisel, as well as to a king Goar of Alans that could have named Gorlois:
Goar is first mentioned in Gregory of Tours's description of the barbarian invasion across the Rhine on December 31, 406. A number of tribes took part in this invasion, including Goar's Alans, another party of Alans led by Respendial, the Asding Vandals led by Godigisel, the Siling Vandals, and several groups of Suevi. It is not stated where these groups originated from, though most historians identify these Alans with those settled by Gratian in Pannonia c. 380....[Goar] remained in Gaul while the Vandals, Sueves, and Respendial's Alans continued into Spain.
The Wikipedia link to emperor Gratian in the above quote is to the son of (not father) of Valentinian I. We then find the scene going to Valence as the time approaches for the birth of Rusticus of nearby Lyon:
Goar next appears in 411, when he and Gundahar, king of the Burgundians, joined in setting up the Gallo-Roman senator Jovinus as Roman Emperor at Mainz...The Visigothic king Athaulf, after a period of indecision, sided with the government of Honorius in Ravenna and defeated Jovinus at Valentia [= Valence]. The Alan and Burgundian response to this defeat is not recorded.Emperor Honorius is suspect in some "honor"-using motto terms, but I ignore them all. He was succeeded by Valentinian III, who brings history to beyond 450 and the end of Roman power. His wickedness coupled with his zealous support of the Roman church is a fine example of Christian hypocrisy leading to the "Dark Ages." The humanists would have us believe that the dark ages came to an end in the Enlightenment, but they are deluded with self-inflicted fantasy. Interesting: "Priscus reports a curious occurrence: as the emperor [Valentinian III] lay dead, a swarm of bees appeared and sucked up his blood." Was that code for Merovingians i.e. Basina and Childeric? Or, some other Bassianus line? Childeric was a young man at the time of the emperor's death.
The emperor after Valentinian III looks like the line to the first Pollocks proper. He was Petronius Maximus, with the right name to "Peter," and with a surname traceable to Maxwells. "Petronius Maximus was born in about 396. Although he was of obscure origin, it is now believed that he belonged to the Anicii family. Related to later Emperor Olybrius, Maximus was the son of Anicius Probinus, the son of Anicia Faltonia Proba and Sextus Claudius Petronius Probus..." The first thing done upon reading this was to click the link to the Anicius surname, for it evoked the LeverNANII of Renfrew, and the Nancy surname. I hadn't yet seen that emperor OLYBRius could have been a Lieber / Lever liner. Nor had I yet seen that "Probinus" could be of the Probin/Robin/ROBERT surname (comes up as "Proper") and speaks to Robert Pollock, Peter's brother. I don't know that there were other brothers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petronius_MaximusI'm ignoring the Probin write-up's derivation in "ap-Robin." I think the surname started out as Probinis and morphed to Robin for the sake of Robert Pollock. How else do we explain the Robert variation, shown? The Probin Coat is a fesse-with-one-symbol in the three colors of the same in the Arms of Bolzano, the Trento location where I insisted Pollocks should trace. Recall king MarBODUUS (or the Marcomanni), for it's much like "BOTZen," the other name of Bolzano. One way to get to northern Italy from Bohemia is via the Brenner Pass straight through Bolzano, and across lake Garda, which lake should be in the "swan regardant" of English Peters. I've traced Pollock roots to Roquefeuils = RockeFELLERS, and then the Feller Coat is a match with the Verona Coat while Verona is at Gardia. The Probin motto uses "tyrannis," which can be for some Trento entity in respect to the Nancy/TRENgoff bloodline.
Let's go to Anicia FALTONia Proba, grandmother of Petronius Maximus, for Faltons are probably using the Piast eagle and the white griffin head of Dobermans, named after Dobrawa, wife of Mieszko I (first-known Piast ruler). It just so happens that Dobermans use the Valentin / Pollock bend.
The Probin fesse is red, the colors of the Alan fesse, and in both colors of the Alan-suspect Lieber fesse! English Olivers, much like "Olybrius," use an oak tree i.e. the Lieber oak theme! English Olivers use a Crest version of Scottish Olivers with chevrons in Lieber-fesse colors. English Olivers trace to an early Peter son of Oliver! Olivers were first found in Cornwall, same as Nancys! Italian Olivers are "LIVIERi" as well. Recall the FOTHERing castle that I linked to the Moray FETTERlocks, for Scottish Olivers use a "FOEDERA" motto term. I wasn't able to get online when the Fothering topic came up, but look-see the "Valens" and "volans" motto terms of Fathers/Feathers! Emperor Valens was brother to Valentinian I. Be on the look-out below for a "FUNERA" motto term in honor of Valens' father. It just so happens that the surname using "funera" will be easily linkable to Probins/Robins (key in Crest). Fathers/Feathers share a red antelope with Derbys for a potential trace to Lycaonia's Derbe location. Fetters share a giant sun with Hesse's.
Aha! The Feeters listed with Larins/Clarins share two red chevrons with Scottish Olivers! So many surprises. If I was correct to interpret Olivers with Levi liners, then emperor Olybrius must have been a Levi liner.
The Probin motto uses "Manus" for a trace to the Maness/Manner surname that has already traced to the Munderic family on multiple counts. The Pollocks have a Peacock sept, and the peacock is in the Maness/Manner Crest. Peters and Peacocks share black mascles. The "just" motto term of Peacocks must be for Justine, wife of Valentinian I. One Peter Coat calls its raven a "Cornish chough" while Nancys were first found in Cornwall.
The Rome's/Rooms (same place as Annandale) use the Probin / Lieber fesse too, as well as a "placid" motto term that seems to be for Placidia: "Placidia was the second daughter of Valentinian III and Licinia Eudoxia, younger sister of Eudocia, who became the wife of Huneric, son of Gaiseric, king of the Vandals...In 454 or 455, Placidia married Anicius Olybrius, a member of the Anicii family." If correct that the Pollock motto term, AUDACter," is code for EUDOXia, then the Vandal line from the older Eudoxia should be a candidate for naming the Veneti at Brittany.
The Rome lion is red and in the position of the half-red Place lion. The "Pungit" motto term of Rooms was traced without doubt to Pungesti of Moldova, near a Roman location, which was home to Trypillians suspect in ostrich-using Trabys. The Pollock hunting horns ought to link to the same in the Arms of Traby.
The other half of the Place lion is in the two colors of the Probin/Robert lion, but also in the colors of the French Robert lion, tending to assure that Place's are from Placidia Valentiniana. The Place's/Plaiz's (Norfolk again) can be linked to Pollocks by comparing the Baez/Pelaiz bend with the Pollock saltire. Baez'/Pelaiz's were first found in the same place (Asturias) as Flora's/FLORENs (ermine spots, Brittany symbol) that just became suspect with Florentinus. Aha! It recalls the Fleurs that were suspect (some years ago) with the Pollock hunting horn, but, in any case, it shows checks in the colors of the Mumm / Stewart checks! The checks at the bottom of the Baez/Pelaiz Coat are a further hint of linkage to Pollocks. Sawyers (Norfolk) use checks in Pelaiz-check colors, and Sawyers trace to the Sakarya river of the Galli.
"The Anicii are known to have used the praenomina Lucius, Quintus, Marcus, Gnaeus, Titus, and Gaius...The only major branch of the family during the Republic used the cognomen Gallus, which may refer to a cock, or to a Gaul...the scholar and philosopher Boethius was a member of this family..."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anicia_(gens)Boethius, hmm. Were Sadducees of the Anicii???
I failed to mention earlier that the Sawyer motto term, "Cherches," could be code for Kirks having two "mum" motto terms buried. The Kirks use a thistle, as do the Renfrew Paisleys. One of the motto terms is "OPtimum," what might be part-code for Time's/Timms expected at Moray. The term reminds of the "optem" term of Teague's. The Kirk crosier could link to the Odin crosier, for Aude's are also "Ode." The Aude sword design is also the Kirk sword design. I am not abandoning my trace of "Audacter" to the Aude's even if the term is intended code for Eudoxia, for Aude's can apply to her. Audeville is in Pithiviers, and that place uses the thistle too! Although "Paisley" and "Pelaiz" do not quite match, the Pelaiz' show a "Paez" variation that can be a Paisley branch. It has been suspect with Pasi's/Pace's of Bologna.
Bologna is where I now start to view the Marcomanni leading to the check-using Marks and check-using Stewarts of Renfrew. The Reno-river through Bologna traces to Renfrew. The Guidi/Guido's of the Bologna theater trace to the Spree's and Speers, the latter first found in Renfrew. The Speers use the Pasi/Pace spears. Proto-Alans were traced to this Bologna picture. But as the Mumms checks are the Stewart and Mark checks while Mumms descended from Florentinus, let's add that the Florence/Florent Coat shares the Aude sword in both colors, as well as using the three stars of French Alans. The Florence's (Lorraine) are actually said to have been "well established in the region of Nancy"!!! That is one amazing find, especially as this entire paragraph was inserted here where the paragraph below was already written. It looks like Florentinus traces to the Valentinian merger with the Anicii line, and if he does, ditto for Rusticus. It's making the entire picture proto-king-Arthur.
Do you recall where else this update found a thistle? In the Arms of Nancy!!! Zikers, what an electrocution, for I almost missed it. I had to go back to re-find who else used it. After that, it was recalled that Scottish Robins (Peter colors) use the thistle too!
Are Kirks using a version of the Annas Coat? While the Anicii can apply to the latter surname, there is an Annecy location in Savoy while Aude's are said to be from an Audeville in Savoy. It truly appears that this has found the particular Pollock roots in Valentinian's family, and in the meantime it appears that both the Sadducee house of Boethus, and Annas the killer of Jesus, trace to Anicii. The Anicii pre-date Annas, suggesting that we should seek an Anicii liner to realize where his family works into the Tigranes picture. His father was one Seth of Syria, but I don't know that there are more details besides that loner.
BEHOLD, the Robin motto includes, "FUNERA," while the father of Valentinian I was Gratian the Elder FUNARIUS. No coincidence. Robins (one branch in Brittany) also use a "Vivit" motto term possibly for Vivians and Itte of Metz together. Thistle's and Robins share pheons, but the Thistle/Thissels bend (the Dulys/Doyle bend?) is suspect with the Amay line because one of two Tassel surname's (Alan fesse?) was first found in Belgium. This would be a good place to remind that Coopers are in Amay colors while using three "proper" terms.
The Robin motto is used by Brysons (Berwickshire) who must be known by some to share the white Pilate pheon, because Montbryson is to the near-north of Mont Pilat. French Robins show only the white pheon in both colors of the Bryson pheon. The Bryson Coat (spurs) is in the colors of the Gier Coat probably due to the Gier river in the region. The Gier mascles are in the colors of the Pert/Pett mascles, how about that! We saw earlier that Mont Pilat has a Perdrix area, and this clinches the Perthshire trace to that mountain. There are now two things tracing to Perthshire, the Munderic line, and Pilat elements. But the Munderic-of-Brule line looked like it was the Pilat line where the Brule's share the Pilate pheons.
A few years ago, a strange event took place that I claimed for just another Sign of many. Any time that an animal around my home was seen in an unusual way, I came to question whether it related to a surname I was supposed to emphasize. In this case, a robin would play at my glass for the better part of the day. Even though I would scare it from the inside of the house, it would come immediately back, fearless, and play at the glass. It would fly up and down, frittering (or whatever it's called) along the glass. It would go on and on, returning each morning like it had found Wonderland. In the end, it flew into the house, allowed me to get it onto my finger, and walk it out the door. I used to talk to my robins, and so I guess they heard me. That was a one-time only event over several years that I've been here. I can't recall everything I said at the time about the Robin surname, but I can now say that Robins, because they're proving to be Peter liners, can trace to GLASgow.
The "Ardens" motto term of Perts/Petts recalls that the BOTTONy cross in the Arms of St. Etienne suggested the Bottons/Bidens sharing a red-on-white fesse with the Arms of Bolzano/BOTZEN. The Arden fesse had itself been linked to the Bolzano fesse, tentatively at first. The Arden fesse-with-symbols was then found to be in the colors of the Pert bend-with-symbols, but still there was no way to clinch an Arden trace to Bolzano. Yet here we have a third piece of evidence that works well because Bottons trace to Arden-related Perts by the latter's trace to St. Etienne. And the only thing of importance for Bolzano, ultimately, was that it traced to the first kings of Templar Jerusalem. Ardens are now tracing with Giers to Mont Pilat. The Botton, Arden and Probin/Robin/ProPERT fesses are all red upon ermined Shields,
Let's go back to Nancy- and Falton-suspect Anicia Faltonia Proba. Let's repeat that Nancys share what should be the Sinclair cross (one wouldn't be able to use the same cross in early days unless descended from Sinclairs). The cross is in Tanner colors. There are all sorts of tann-like endings on Faltons that bring up the pine-cone-using Tanners. It suggests that Faltonia Proba led to Fulbert "the tanner," important because the Moline write-up suggests a Mummolin line to a son of "the tanner." I haven't clinched a Mummolin link to Moline's, but it's working well, and this is another example of why. Just consider the Crest of Bothwells/Boduels -- "A boy pulling down a green PINE tree" -- very traceable to Bodegisel (Mummolin's brother). Was Mrs. Proba (died 432 AD) of Mummolin's ancestry? Isn't that what this section is much about?
The Moline's are said to be "of Falaise" as well as from the Conqueror's uncle, suggesting his mother's brother. His mother had married secondly the Conteville's, who are the Cone liners, and one can see that Conte's are related to Falcons, wherefore let's bring the English Tassels (share white crescents with Falcons) to the table: "A falcon's head, in the mouth a pine branch." Branch's are suspect with D'AVRANCHes," and Hugh D'Avranches was a Conteville, and grandson of the Conqueror's mother. Tassels become suspect with the Thistle's/Thissels honored by Probinus liners.
Then there are the Tass'/Tache's said to be from "D'Asche." They've been mentioned more than once recently, but it wasn't known until now that they use two symbols of Peters in the same colors. Peter Pollock was traced to Flavius Petro (four centuries before Mrs. Proba), ancestor of emperors Vespasian and Titus, and then the Titus surname shares gyronny with Scottish Tass'/Taws/Tause (share the lion-head design of Peters). The problem is, I don't know whether the two Tass surnames are branches. I just wanted to add the Flavius Petro aspect to this discussion as background depth.
Here's where I first got a clue to a Pollock trace to Valentinian, in the 2nd update of July, 2012: "I think fate has just found the proto-Pollocks in Placidia, mother of Valentinian. The first clue came in 'PULCHeria,' Placidia's sister. These two women so smack of the Placentia and Pollock topic that it got my attention enough to enter 'Valent'...to find a white-on-red bend, the colors of the bend used by 'Jewish' Pollocks." How about that, Pulcheria, what a cosmic non-coincidence. There were other Pulcheria's, for example, a daughter of Aelia Eudoxia, daughter in tern of BAUTa, a term I've been entertaining from the house of Boet(h)us, and tracing to Botzen.
Aelia Eudokia was wife to emperor Arcadia, which recalls the suggestion that Lurco, father-in-law of Appius Pulcher, was named after "Arca," the Arcadian bear. Here we find Arcadius involved with Pulcheria names. Appius Pulcher birthed the wife of emperor Augustus, and then the Probin / Rome fesse is also the August fesse.
I still haven't seen sign of Rusticus as I read up on the Valentinian family, but a point can be made where Eudokia is the name of a daughter, the only child shown, for Inger the Varangian (about 850 AD) and his wife, Melissena Rangabe. As Rusticus is suspect at Rostock, where I see the Varni as proto-Varangians, Inger may have been from this Eudokia family under discussion. In fact, the Inger surname is listed under Enders using what are suspect as the Lurch/Larcher and Archer arrows. It was established sufficiently (in the last few weeks) that Lurchs could be from Lurco.
Another thought crossed my mind as to the possibility that the black Roost/Ruste saltire being that of Maxwells (Pollocks are a sept of Maxwells). Maxwells were first found in Roxolani-suspect Roxburghshire. The Roxburgh surname uses the Pepin / Este horse design, white like the Rush horse. I have a Coat in my files called, Maxwell-Ros, and so I looked up the Ros' to find one Ross/Roose surname first found in the same place (Yorkshire) as English Maxwells, and Spanish Ros' (no double 's') use the two-headed eagle design of Maxwells (both in black), another indicator that DESIGN MATTERS (i.e. the heraldry people use identical design when they know of family links). The German Baez' use an eagle in Ros-eagle colors. This trace of Maxwells to Spaniards helps to make the Baez/Pelaiz link to Pollocks, and asks whether the Seubi / Alans / Vandals of Spain apply. The Pelaiz checks are in the colors of the Spanish-Maxwell eagle.
The single Roxburgh pale bar evokes the single one used by Tullia's. The Roxburgh pale bar is blue, like the pale bars in the Arms of Amay.
As the Ross'/Roose's are said to be of Cunninghams, first found in Ayrshire, the "alit" motto term of Ross'/Roose's looks like code for the Ayrshire-related Lite's/Lights that have feathers in the same colors as code for Fathers/Feathers (in Ross/Roose colors). These are the colors of Cocks and Peacocks using ERASed peacock heads as code for RASmussens, whose fleur, in the colors of the Pelaiz checks, are shared with Pepins. The early Pepin line got married to the family of MumMOLIN, you see, and Molle's were first found in Pepin-suspect Roxburghshire. The garland of laurel in the Ross Crest should be for the Larins/Clarins of Lanarkshire who share two red chevrons with Olivers, thus tracing Ross', in all likeliness to emperor Anicius Olybrius. He was ruling at roughly Rusticus' birth (Wikipedia puts it at about 455). English Larins use scallops in the colors of the Ross lions, and this could link the Larin scallops, in the colors of the capes' scallops, to the Fleck/Flack scallops because
The Rosete variation of Spanish Ros' recalled the possibility that the Rusticus' line (to Renfrew / Moray / Molle's) might be in the Rosette/Rocet/Rochette surname, itself coming to topic earlier when seeking kin of the Roget variation of Rogers. That would make a lot of sense. Earlier, it was said: "the Power / Sullivan / Roger stag". Sullivans use a robin now suspect with Anicius Probinus. Rosette's/Rocets were first found in Dauphine, where Tullia's were first found, and she was mother to Roger. It's therefore compelling to link Rosette's/Rocets, anyway, to Rusticus, and it just so happens that they use the rooks of Rooks and Rookbys, with tops just like the tops of moline crosses. It speaks to the Rusticus link to MumMOLIN (great-great-grandson of Rusticus). But for me it reveals that Rusticus was without doubt the root of Rockefellers, for I see Rooks / Rookbys as Rockefeller lines. That can explain why Rookbys and Rogers share the same colors and format. The "EfFLOREScent" motto term of Rooks (just learned that they come up as ROKERs) can now go to Florentinus, husband of Rusticus' daughter. What they knew, and were not telling us, is made known by their big-mouth codes.
French Rogers use ROSEs, and that works too. But Welsh Rogers/Rosers, which I ignored at first, are using the Frey / Phreeze horse design (no hoofs on the ground), while the Roger/Roser Chief has garbs in the colors of the Frey / Phreeze horse. The latter two were mentioned a couple of times with the Rush Horse that was under suspicion with the Rusticus line. Since then, the "bulRUSHes of the Perts/Petts came back to mind, tending to clinch a Rush trace to Rusticus. Also, the Frey / Phreeze horse, in both colors, was then found in the Sanger Coat, along with more garbs, which can imply a Roger trace to the Sakarya priesthood tracing in several ways to Rusticus liners. The black Sanger horse head in Crest is the Bute/Butt / Este horse head too, and Bute's are tracing to Bodegisel with little doubt. Sangers were first found between English and Welsh Rogers. The whole thing seems full-proof, with most of the missing links now discovered rudimental for a trace from Galatians through to the Crusaders / Templars (I often intend to mean the Crusaders widely when I say "Templars").
The question is: were Rogers a line of Rusticus? I think so, yes, and English Rogers look like a branch of Pendragons, and linkable to Nancys. The Roger who founded the first-known Arduinici of Ivrea was probably a Rusticus liner. The Roger surname of Cornwall is predicted to be the Arthurian line to Avalon = Bute. Recall how Rogers traced to Alauna before I discovered a river there that was mythical Mordred, who killed king Arthur (died in Avalon). One can understand the basic realities in this, a trace of Alauna elements to Bute (then called Rothesay). So, take this quote On Rusticus' marriage: "Married before 480 to a daughter (born c. 460) of Ruricius, Bishop of Limoges (then Augustoritum) and his wife Ommance..." Ruricius smacks of Rory of Bute, or one of the first-known Varangians, Rurik, from Wieringen on the Friesland border (that's where Freys trace). And before finding this quote, there was speculation on whether Rusticus named Rostock, at the theater of the Varangi-suspect Varni. That seems to work pretty good, especially as Varangians need to trace, in my long-standing opinion, to Redones...who lived at Lyon's Rhodanus river.
It looks like Rusticus' family is a proto-Varangian peoples, but that may be pre-mature. The Demys/Dumays are said to have settled Anjou, the area where I expect Inger the Varangian, one of the first-known Varangians. Inger was born about the same time as Rurik. If they don't come from the same family, Varangians must have been in existence in the 700s. I did not go to the Ruricius article until now, I kid you not. Until now, one of the aims was to find Rusticus linkable to the Valentinian bloodline to Pollocks, and the latter's links to Valentinian liners turned out to look like the Anicii, and so see what I have just learned:
Although there is scarce information about Ruricius' life, it is known that he eventually became a grandfather...He was a member of the Anician family, one of the most important aristocratic families in Rome. Ruricius' ancestry has been a subject of debate...
I had spent some considerable time seeking Inger's mysterious ancestry, and was led to Aquitaine and/or Lusignan, but then gave up. So see the article above: "Likewise, there is no information concerning [Ruricius'] birthplace, though he appears to have had strong ties to Aquitaine in the region of Cahors...Mathisen's premise that his paternal grandfather may have been Flavius Constantius Felix and his mother a member of the aristocratic familia Pontii Leontii of Burdigalia in Aquitania." Varangians in Aquitaine, it sounds crazy. But I had suspected him in Lusignan, and that part of France was forming alliances to it's south. Perhaps I was way wrong.
On the other hand, BURDigalia sounds like it can be of the Birds/Burds sharing the flory cross with Rangabe's! Yes, Inger's wife, a Rangabe, can thus link to Birds/Burds. Let's continue reading (why MOMmaerts?), and do believe that I traced Pollocks to Petronius Maximus, all the while looking for links between he and Rusticus, apart from having read this:
Mommaerts and Kelley propose that Ruricius may be the son of an African proconsul, name as yet unknown, but otherwise identified (by title) by Sidonius in his letter to Montius as the father of said Camillus. This would make Ruricius brother to Camillus and Firminus of Arles. The objection to this hypothesis has been that it makes the unnamed African proconsul an otherwise unattested son of regicide emperor Petronius Maximus and that there are not any Firminid names among Ruricius' immediate descendants. Settipani now accepts Petronius Maximus as an Anicius but argues the unnamed African proconsul was unlikely to have been Maximus' son. In support of the Kelley/Mommaerts hypothesis is the evidence in his letters of Ruricius' strong ties to Arles and an argument that the name "Firminus" in fact came into use among the Ferreoli through the marriage of Papianilla, whom they hypothesize to have been a sister of Ruricius, to Tonantius Ferreolus; however, the matter of Ruricius' paternal heritage remains controversial.On the objection to his being a son of Maximus based on no descendants named, Firminid, I would add that there is a Firminy location smack at Mont Pilat / St. Etienne that could apply. This would have meant nothing had Munderic not traced to Mont Pilat. I can start to sense already that this topic will involve the Borders and Bordeaux's. Here's one Burd/Bird Coat (Pert/Pett colors) using what could be a version of the Arden fesse-with symbols that linked to the Arden-related and Bird-like Perts/Petts who traced for the first time ever to Mont Pilat late in this update.
Here's an article on the battle of Burdigalia (ancient Bordeaux) that stretched into the following year when Quintus Caepio won the gold of Toulouse. The year after that, the same Roman enemies (included TIGURini) from Burdigalia came up to the Lyon theater (almost) to defeat Quintus Caepio there. That battle was at Orange, and then I noted the Orange-like look of one Florence-surname variation. I fully expect the Caepio treasure to transfer to the King-Arthur elements, and later to Templar vikings. At this time, king-Arthur elements have to do with the line of Florentinus (married Artemia), and the flory cross of bullion-like Bouillons, Rangabe's, and of Burds/Birds, might just be named after him. It's not a coincidence that the Etienne surname uses silver bullion bars (billets).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_BurdigaliaWhy was there such a long article on Ruricius, and such a long treatment on who his parents were? The article says that he was "linked in a tightly bound, Gallo-Roman aristocratic network" with Alcimus Ecdicius AVITUS, Bishop of Vienne, as well as a bishop of Clermont. As he is said to have been an Anicia liner, his trace to the unnamed African family is conspicuous beside Anicia Faltonia Proba (three sons and a daughter), who fled to Africa, even dying there in 432, at roughly the time of Ruricius' birth (Wikipedia says about 440). Of all places, why did she flee to Africa? "She then fled to Africa with her daughter-in-law Anicia Iuliana and her granddaughter Demetrias..." One might suppose that Ruricius' father was amongst these refugees.
Leon surnames were looked at as per Ruricius' mother being pegged as from a Pontii Leontii family. It was immediately interesting that the French Leons, first found in the right place (Gascony, perhaps included Bordeaux), shared a gold-on-blue lion as well as flames with the Monaco Coat. By the time of finding this, I was looking at Nice for one possible origin of the Anicii entity. Monaco happens to be about ten miles from Nice. There was an ancient Nice location at Arda on the Hebros that seems applicable to the Arduinici of Imperia, less than 50 miles from Nice.
The rulers of Foix got to ruling Candale too, beside Bordeaux. John of Gaunt (his grandson was duke of Candale) had something to do with Candale (if I recall correctly, he lived there, but his Wikipedia article is blank on that, and Google seems to be repressing the fact). John had married Catherine Roet of the Boofima cult that traces to Imperia, near Nice and, in my opinion, Nice was from the mythical Nike/Nice entity of leopard-depicted Dionysus. Margaret de Pole of Candale (15th century) was a daughter of "John de la Pole" and "Marie of Sicile," the latter sounding like she was from Sicily, where a branch of Monaco's settled. This is said because one of the two Monaco lions is identical to the Poole/Pole lion. The white griffin head in the Poole/Pole Crest is used by Faltons, very linkable to Anicia Faltonia Proba.
Roets were first found in the same place as Borders, making Borders suspect with Bordeaux. The Borders happen to use a lone star in the colors of the lone star in the Arms of Bolzano. Amongst the candidates for using the Bolzano fesse are the Probins/Robins suspect with the Proba family. It was said not far above that Bottons/Bidens, Ardens, and Probins/Robins all use a red fesse on ermined white, and so lets add that Bottons/Bidens were first found in Hampshire, smack beside Poole.
The Gace Brule character in the Brule write-up is connected to some Templar activity at Champagne, which is why he looks to have been in the Champagne circles of Hugh de Payen. That's repeated for two reasons: 1) Italian Leons look like they use the Payne Shield; 2) Gace's are listed with proto-Washingtons while Washingtons share the double fesse bars of Nice's/Ness', in the colors of the Probin/Robin fesse. Brule (of by the son-in-law of Ruricius' granddaughter), was also "Perthois," linked to the Arden-related Perts/Petts.
The next thing done was to check the Lenards for links to Rustucus' Lyon or Ruricius' Pontii Leontii suspects. It floored me to find a "hiberNICO" motto term in the Lenard/Lennon motto, for the below was already written for the record, in case needed:
Ruricius married HIBERia, the daughter of an Arvernian senator Ommatius...Though no direct evidence survives to say whether they had any daughters or not, it is known that Ruricius and Hiberia had five sons: Ommatius (eldest), Eparchius, Constantius, Leontius, and Aurelianus...
ASTOUNDING what heraldry can tell us when it speaks. With a Ruricius trace to Lennans, coming immediately after the mention of Boofima at Imperia, by what coincidence are Lennans a branch of Logans/Lohans using NAILS, obvious code for Nagle's that named Oneglia = Imperia! The Logan nails are in a heart, a symbol of Douglas' who can trace to Monaco's on two counts. Logans/Lohans were swan-Ligurian liners. The French Lenard surname is listed with French Leons sharing flames with the Douglas Crest. The Douglas salaMANDER (within the flames) is now suspect with "Munderic." The Sagans/Segans sharing the Douglas salamander trace to Segni's/Segurana's at Genoa, where the Doria's were first found that use the Candida eagle, and who lived at Oneglia.
There are many ways that the Templar Moor head can trace to north Africa. Add this apparent trace of the Anicii to north Africa in about 400 AD as yet another possibility. When did the family of Anicia Proba return from Africa, we might ask? She was the daughter of Quintus Olybrius, reminding me of the potential trace of "Quintus" to "Kenza," wife of Idris of Morocco (9th century). Was her line at KENDal? Did her line name England's Kent county, where some Shawia went to live? Did the Cantii founder of Kent name Candale? Why does "Gaunt" look like "Kent"? Ghents (using a version of the Moor-using Tanner Coat?) were first found in Kent?
Did the Vandals into north-Africa, who settled all around the Aures homeland of Kenza, have anything to do with Anicia Proba? Did these vandals go back to name the Veneti at Brittany? Guerin of Provence, who was traced to back to Idris, is the line that I see in the Raines' of Rennes, Brittany.
Coming here to the Ligurian coast of Grimaldi's, let's repeat the following quote while reminding the Gisels are listed with Grimaldi- and Monaco-suspect Gris': "Chrodoara was married to a duke named Bodegisel, a member of a north Aquitanian aristocratic family. This helped confirm previous assumptions about the membership of Adalgisel in this family whose members are identifiable by names ending in '-gisil'." The Anicii are called "aristocratic" too. This Bodegisel link to Aquitaine could be from the descent of Ruricius because the latter was ancestor to Bodegisel of Provence. North-Aquitaine would include Bordeaux, apparently.
Ask whether the giant star of German Gris'/Griims/Grisels is the Annas star somehow.
Chrodoara was of Amay, a very-important entity in heraldry, apparently. The Angie's (listed with Anks/Hanks) were looked up as per "Anicii," to find them using bendy in Amay-bar colors. The Dulys use bends in the same colors while tracing to Joan of Arc (tentatively, anyway), and while she was of Blois, the counts of Blois joined with Chatillon using three pale bars that I am definitely linking to the same of Amay. The Angie's give the impression of linking to Angels > Angulo's = Nagle's. If the Anicii thus link to Angie's, it could trace Anicii to the naming of Angles, the kin of proto-Varangian Varni.
Repeat from an article on the Renfrew area: "...some Norman lord or his follower, like Croc at Crookston, de Nes on Leveran side or Grymketel on the ridge of Arkilston."
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