If you missed the Caetronianus topic late in the last update, you need not to miss it. His family looks like the makings of the Caiaphas / Sadducee lines in Israel, and his ally, Hirtius, may have named Herods. I'll be sure to re-visit that topic, but this update is devoted to the blue-apple riddle out of Rennes-le-Chateau. I was surprised to find that it involved the line of Siward of Northumberland.The riddle has to do with "Blois apples," so to speak, and pertains to the bars or billets of gold stolen by Quintus Caepio the Elder, and given to the families, I claim, of Caiaphas and Gaius Caetronianus. In the last update, the latter character traced to the Roet-related Role's of Montreuil relations. The Drole's/Rollets were found to use pansies in honor of the Pansa middle name of Caetronianus.
The Role's use billets as well as bars that they call, "palets." The Pallett surname was first found in ChamPAGNE, and "Pansa" was found to be the root of Payens/Pagans. The counts of Blois (as we shall see) used the three "palets" of the Role's and Knights, as well as a white-on-blue bend with bendlets uses also as the Arms of Champagne. It makes Gaius Pansa Caetronianus suspect as a keeper of some gold bars, and may explain the fantastic money that Templars under Hugh de Payen possessed.
Pellets (black roundels) are used by Skipton-related Lacys, and by the Pellet surname suspect with the Pilate pheons used by the Siward-related Nottings. Pheons are suspect as code for the Paeoni, and I think there was a good case made for tracing Pansa to the Paeoni through Cuppae, for the Pansy surname was found to use doves. I've been talking for months about doves at Cuppae, and here we are at the man who can put things all together for us, if we want to know how Cuppae related to Sadducee formation, and to "Caiaphas" itself. But that investigation may need to wait for another update.
The Pellet surname was first found in the same place (Suffolk) as Billet-suspect Blois'. There is every reason to suspect that the family of Caetronianus put Pontius Pilate on the Judean map. We have cause to trace the gold bars to mount Pilat, where the Stephen surname traces as a Chappes branch, where also Chappes-merged Payens were first found who use the pierced Zionist stars of Billets. It's tracing Pansa lines to mount Pilat, isn't it.
While Stephens use the so-called "PERCHevron" of Chappes, Bellamys, suspect with Bellows and therefore with Billets, lived in PERCHE. Reminder: Stephen-suspect Staffs are likely using the Caepio chevron, and the swan of Maine's Josephs. Then, unexpectedly, the Perche surname uses two chevrons in colors reversed to the Sweit and Seward chevrons. If it was coincidental, I wouldn't have mentioned it. Isn't this, as well as the Notting pheons in Pilate-pheon colors, tracing the Swietoslawa > Canute line to Perche? Does this have anything to do with the gold bars in nearby Blois?
Another perchevron is used by Chapmans, suspect with bellows-using "Shipmans." To help prove that these Shep-like variations of Caiaphas-suspect lines trace to St. Etienne (location of mount Pilat), Shapleys use a green "wreath" in the same green color of the Stephenson "garland" wreath. The Role "palets" are used also by the Garland surname, thus assuring all the more that Stephens(ons) at S. Etienne were linked to the Pansa > Payen line.
The Shapley chevron, in the colors of the Pansy doves, is colors-reversed to the Heslington chevron. Shapleys were first found in Devon, the place that had several surnames (including the Maine's) from the Perche and neighboring Maine. English Stewarts, highly suspect with the Role's, first found in Brittany, were first found in Devon too. Stewart-suspect Sewards were first found in Devon. English Cary's, using the swan that Maine's Josephs were showing, were first found in Somerset, beside Devon.
The Arms of Perche use three chevrons in the colors of the two Perche chevrons, and then the Sillys/Sullys, first found in Devon, likewise use three chevrons in those colors. "Sully" is a variation also of the Sole's of Solnier, the latter term like the Saulnier variation of Saunier's. If you don't know, the Magdalene church at Rennes-le-Chateau was built by a Sauniere surname with money he wasn't supposed to possess. The Roman dictator, Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix, is said (in Wikipedia's Pansa article) to have brought Pansa to higher power. Sulla was also "Sylla," suggesting the Silly/Sully surname.
As you will see below, the Caepio-married Silanus family traces to a location smack beside Rennes-le-Chateau. Tanners, suspect from La Falaise in Ile-de-France, and from the Moor heads of Chappes', were likewise first found in Devon, and can be seen in the Shield-and-Chief color combination of the palet-using Role's. The other Role's are suspect with the snap-vision Gars/Karens, jibing with the fact that Role-related Roets use the sleeping moon of Kerns/Karens. Roets were first found beside Devon.
In mythical Devon, there were boars. Porcius-Cato liners, right? Yes, the Perche > Percival > Pierce line. It means that it may be true that "Cato" and CAETronianus" are related surnames.
For a further example of a Perche-to-Devon migration, the Chartres surname (stork), from Chartres, beside Perche, was first found in Devon. Hmm, as the Chartres Coat (blue fesse) uses the so-called "double TRESSURE" border, suspect from as pertaining to the gold-bar TREASURE of Quintus Caepio Sr., it's very interesting that the Chartran Coat uses gold apples, for if these were connected to Blois, they might be called "blue apples."
The double tressure was found in the Livingston Coat in the 2nd update of December when seeking lines from the Livius family...that Quintus Caepio had merged with. It is the Livius line that is said to mean "blue," for which reason it's connectable to Blois. I think there is something to this (I had not planned to do a blue-apple investigation until finding these gold apples. The following just cascaded into place).
The Double surname uses bells in the colors of the English Blois dragons, and then the French Blois' use a double-like Deblois variation. That is very interesting, tracing Flemings (owners of the double tressure) to Blois. Keep your eye out for so-called "church bells" below as they too link to the riddle. The Church's, first found in the same place (Somerset) as the Treasure surname, use the greyHOUND, as do LaBels.
Why should Hounds be important? Hounds use the white ermined lozenges of the Seward-related Thicks, whose lozenges are in colors reversed from the ermined lozenges of Sadducee- / Caiaphas-suspect Shaws. The expectation is that Hounds trace to the greyhounds of the Lys surname, as per a trace of the Shaw-line Cabellio location to the Chivele location in Wiltshire, from the Hevel surname at the sources of the Lys river. Hounds were first found in the same place (Cambridge) as Capone's and Chapmans, and the Sheaves-branch of Shaws show a Chiapponi variation.
The LaBels are suspect with the so-called "label" symbol found, for example, in the Panico/Panis Chief. I am very sure now that the Roets share the Panico/Panis oak tree.
The Bell surname uses both the Bellamy Shield and a Coat in Double colors...which could trace the D'Bell-suspect Double's to Perche i.e. near Blois. It's all important if Blois was named after a Bell-like bloodline. The Bell and Bellamy Shields are, like many here, blue. The LaBels show "Baile" terms, and then the Sword (= Siward) sword is on a blue Shield in the Baile/Bellis Coat. These are the colors of the French Blois Coat. I'm quite sure the Blois surname will go to Billets, the latter named after gold / silver bars...otherwise called, bullion. Bouillons (in Double colors) use a "bello" motto term.
Did Godfrey de Bouillon have bullion that he wanted to bury under the Jerusalem temple? Imagine if the Bouillon cross is just a symbol of two silver bars. The gold cross of Templar Jerusalem is said to have been that of Godfrey de Bouillon, a potent cross, made up of bars, all bars.
The "mon courage" phrase of Chartrans suggests the Cour(t)s (Apple / Appleby colors), with besants (in Savard-besant colors) looking like the gold apples, suggesting that the Chartran apples may have belonged to a line of the Severus surname as it married Bassianus. That was father and mother of CARacalla, a term that could provide "Chart." It may again suggest that Caracalla's family was in charge of the gold bars. I wonder if the Siwards got some? If Siwards were proto-Stewards, it means the Alans of Brittany may have gotten some, and Brittany is where the Chartrans and Cour(t)s were both first found.
The blue fesse of Chartres' (and Dicks) may be that of the French Paris', the latter having a gold apple upon their fesse. The Pariseau variation sure does look like "Pharisee." Belgian Paris' use squirrels (in Quint colors), Deck and Dyke symbols. Don't we expect Pharisee liners on the Ticino? As Vere's have been pegged to be basic Pharisee liners, the Pears of Oxford could be using the Quint chevron on colors reversed. "Pear" could be word-play on the Paris apple. The surname is properly "Pearl."
I had been wondering, when Blois elements were linking to the city of Berry, whether the heraldic barry symbol (bars) was a code for use by families who got some gold / silver bars. It just so happens that Berry is in the Cher region, a term like "Chartrans / Chartres." Blois is in Loir-et-Cher. It became suspect that "Loir" was a form of "L'or." There is no Cher surname, but "Char" gets the Chards/Charts. This surname is the one with partridges, symbol of mythical Perdix. See in the last update how the Perdix line from Apulia was involved with the formation of the name of Pansa Caetronianus.
The two lions facing one another in the Chartrans Crest are called "combattant." I traced this symbol to the boxing symbol of mythical Pollux, whom I view as a line of apple-like Apollo. Pollux's boxing symbol in Apulia was part of the Perdix discussion of the last update. The Pollux swan entity is now highly suspect as the Soducena > Caetronianus line.
It just so happens that CARTers (Winchester!) use two lions facing one another. I'll bet president Carter was growing peanuts to cover some gold bars at the bottom of a peanut silo. The exclamation mark is due to Quintus Caepio tracing to Quincy's and Winchesters. The Chartres', by the way, are also "Charter."
The stork in the Chartres Crest is wordplay for "Story," as the same stork head (basically) is in the Story Crest. The Story Coat is in six sections like the Wheelwright Coat, the surname to which the Carter wheels ought to trace. They are "Catherine wheels" that were discovered to be code for "CAETRONianus." Why is Pansa tracing to Mieszko's? We should ask the Roet-related Kerns/Karens, first found in Silesia, where SITLers/SCHITners were first found, who use an upright lion in colors reversed from the same of Gars/Karens.
As we've seen Mieszko liners of the Siward kind, it's not likely coincidental that Story's were first found in Northumberland. The last time a stork came-up was with the Goplo-related Kobble's/Kobels (branch of Knobels / Nobels?). The suspicion now is that the Pansa line passed through Mieszko's wife, Oda of HaldenSLEBen. The Goplo-suspect Siemens, who likewise show a sleeping moon, use a so-called "slab," perhaps code for "sleben" elements. P> Storys (said to be from vikings but no further details, why not?) are likely a branch of Sturs/Esturmys (more bars), first found in Manche, home of Mieszko-related Masseys. I've just re-learned that Sturs were from CHERburg of Manche! The French branch uses what could be the Garland bars. As the English branch (Hampshire) use "Stower," it's clear this was a Stout-Stow line that likewise links to Siward of Northumberland.
The other English Carters use a chevron in the colors of the Heslington chevron! This makes a Carter and Chartrans link to both Saer de Quincy and Saer-suspect Siward. As Siward had linked to George Drummond, its notable that English Sturs use the same three bars as Scottish Drummonds.
The greyhound in the Carter Crest can trace to the same of Luchs/Luke's, who share mascles with Quincys and Winchester, and are therefore very traceable to de-Quincy's mother (at Leuchars in FIFE). I understand what this is now: the Caepio-related Pansa migration to the Carter Catherine wheels took place with the Caepio-line migration to Winchesters and Quincys. The lines was in southern England, where we find Devon and Somerset too. The Roets were from Croys/Groys, who are the Greys likely included in the greyhound symbol.
Luchs/Luke's use FIVE mascles, not likely coincidental, and let's not forget that Luch's are suspect from the Luce offspring of Caracalla. The reason that Carters show only the wheels is because the cart, full of gold bars, needed to be parked at the bottom of the peanut silo...so no one could roll it away by night.
Catherine wheels are in the Baile Coat along with the Sword sword. Catherine Roet's husband, John of Gaunt, had already become suspect as the keeper of gold bars. In the article on Payne de Roet below, note that the Arms uses a chevron in the colors of the same of German Rolls (Swabia), and then let's bring the "mon courage" motto of Chartres'/Charters back to topic, for "Paon de Roet...is named in a legal document in the form Paganus de Rodio -- referring to Rodium, the mediaeval Latin form corresponding to the Roeulx, or Le Roeulx, a town of 3000 inhabitants, 8 miles north-east of Mons, on the highway leading from Mons to Nivelle located in the County of Hainaut." Nivelle had been suggested as a Nibelung location for sound-alike reason.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paon_de_RoetThat wee Roet link to Chartres'/Charters is corroborated in the Catherine wheels of Carters, is it not? It was Siward's son who married the Louvain - Mons rulers. We shouldn't rule out a possible trace of "Roet" to "Hirtius Herod" because the proper name of the location may have been, Rodium, not the Latin, Role-like version. The link of this location to Rodez in Languedoc can be entertained where the pansy-using Drole's/Rollets were first found in Languedoc. That's the Pansa trace to the area of Toulouse, where the gold bars were stolen, right? HeROD Antipas was right there in the face of Toulouse.
As Katherine Roet married a SWYNford surname, is he not suspect with the swine line of Porcius Cato? Don't believe the explanation for the derivation of the Catherine wheel in her article. It's very clear across the heraldic and historical board that Masonic families were shy in exposing their roots in Romans. Sure enough, Swynfords use black boars. The cat-a-mountain suspect with "Cato" traced to the Mounds/Mons', right? It may explain why the Hainaut lion is in Porcia-boar colors, and why Hohens out of Swabia (where Rolls were first found) use lions in the same colors.
As the swine lines just became heavily suspect with swan lines upon finding the lines of Porcius Cato, it can be added that the Roll Coat, and the Arms of Payne Roet, are the makings of the Sion/Swan Coat. The white wings of the Payne-Roet Coat might just be a version of the white Masci wings because the Sion/Swan Coat is a Macey-Coat version. As I said, and as I witnessed for years, the gloves in the Sion/Swan Coat were the GAUNTlet gloves used also by Maceys, but we can see here that John of Gaunt is involved in the Sion/Swan Coat...because it is, in fact, a version of the Payne-Roet Arms. Later, I discuss why Porcius Cato should be a Seaton branch that named Sion by the name of, Sitten. This is as hard as concrete, undeniable.
Below is some evidence that Roets were on the Somme river, important because Sions/Swans come up as "Some" too:
http://www.wikitree.com/genealogy/ROETAs Maceys were Maccabee's, while Roets were at Mons, it tends to prove that Mons was named after a HasMONean entity. The Has entity of "HASmonean" is suspect with the "HAZard" motto term of Seatons. The last update found that Calens were a part of the marriage of Pansa Caetronianus to a Calena surname, and while that latter surname was suspect with the Cilnius family that I've been seeing at the root of Maccabees, here we find that the Calen bend and symbols are in the colors of the same of Asmans. It's a powerful argument because Asmans can be using the Massey/Macey fleur.
In the meantime, the white footless martlets that the Calens replace the Asman fleur with have been found to be in Sadducee-suspect surnames, as well as in the Living/Levin Coat. In fact, the Calen martlets are in the two colors of the same in the Chadock Coat, and the latter even shows the Role crosslet design. We just learned that Role's were from a location smack beside Mons. I haven't been having quacky hallucinations after all, all these years. Rigid hiss-torians can Blois it our their ears.
The CHADock / Chadwick variation of "Saddock/Sedwick" can be due to these lines originating in "Cato." We will have to see who is at the foot of Sadducees better, whether Caetronianus or Cato. The writers of the Chad surname failed to trace them to Chaddock in Lancashire, but the "potent" cross used by Chads traces them to Putents, first found in the same place (Sussex) as Saddocks. The Chadwick lily traces this family of surnames to the location of Lille, near Mons, and then the Arms of li'le is a fleur-de-lily, so to speak, in the colors of the Asman lilies. Hasmon-incidence? Don't we expect Sadducee lines with Hasmonean lines?
Perhaps one of the biggest revelations of all here starts with the Calens being in the colors of the Alans. The proto-Alans of Forum Allieni, that is, may have been in the Calenus surname! Pansa was married to Fulfia, the daughter of Quintus Fufius Calenus, and "Fulfius" traced to the Fullers and Alan-related Carpenters! Thus, as Fullers were identified as RoqueFEUILs, it appears that the Drole's/Rollets of Languedoc were from the marriage of Roquefeuil with Henry IV of Rodes/Rodez!!! That makes too much sense to be incorrect. And it then tends to trace "Langhe" (where I traced the Israeli priesthood from Forum Allieni) to the namers of "Languedoc."
French Alans even use the Calen footless martlets in colors reversed! AND LOOK, the French Henrys use the Alan martlets on a Shield having the Drole/Rollet chevron in colors revered!!! The secret is out. The hands of the Stewarts hang limp. I am very sure that the Henrys were Caiaphas liners, meaning that Caiaphas' genetic materials were in the bones of Henry IV of Rodez.
It reminds me of a trace of the proto-Alans to the Budini theater with the Alan-related Boyds, where a Gelonus location was situated to which the Budini were related. Compare "Gelonus" with "Calenus." Pulfords were checked in the last update for Fulfius links, but I didn't think to check "Fulford," first found in the same place (Devon) as English Stewarts, and using the muzzled-bear design of neighboring Percivals.
Henrys and Role's were both first found in Brittany. It's in an online article that a Henry Joseph of Hampshire started the Joseph surname, first found in Hampshire. It appears that Henry Joseph was from a line of Henry of Rodez, bank on it. And look: the AVES/Avis Coat uses the three gold-on-blue garbs of English Josephs, a discovery made while writing the paragraph above because the page below was on the agenda at the time, where we read that Payne Roet's mother was Catherine of AVESnes...in Artois a dozen miles from Montreuil. The Aves/Avis garbs are in the colors of the bars that are the Arms of Montreuil.
http://www.famhist.us/genealogy/getperson.php?personID=I6908490&tree=allfamThere are a slew of articles trying to convince the world that the blue-apple mystery is solved or not-so-solved in some colorful display of a stained glass window at the Magdalene church in Rennes-le-Chateau. I think this is at times an intentional rabbit trail. Saunier's were first found in the same place (Perigord) as blue-fesse Boeufs identified with the Books/Boggs in the Roet Crest. "Saunier" appears alone in the Sol-like variations of the surname, and may be a Sion-related branch of the family that was otherwise was Sulla. It's interesting that Javier Solana could be considered a modern-day "dictator" of end-time Rome.
In the article on Payne Roet, you will learn that Roets were merged with Beauforts. "John Beaufort, 1st Marquess of Somerset and 1st Marquess of Dorset...was the first of the four illegitimate children of John of Gaunt, 1st Duke of Lancaster, and his mistress Katherine Swynford, later his wife. Beaufort was born in about 1371 and his surname probably reflects his father's lordship of Beaufort in Champagne, France." Note at this article that the Arms of Beaufort are the blue-and-white gyronny of Gironde, for John of Gaunt was in neighboring Candale, and then while the Border surname traced Bordeaux, beside Candale, the Treasure surname was first found in the same place (Somerset) as the Beaufort rulers. The same Arms are used by the Picard surname. Payne de Roet was a Fleming, and the double tressure border is known to belong to Flemings.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Beaufort,_1st_Earl_of_SomersetWe read that the Beaufort emblem was the portcullis gate (a sliding gate), and so we find a portcullis in the blue-apple discussion below. The symbol is used by that term my Porters, though the gate's of the Seaton-suspect Yate's could apply for a reason below. The Porters will link to the Potters and Putents. It can be gleaned that Porters were the original owners of the portcullis. The question is whether they used it due to links to relations with a Cullis-like family. It turns out to look true; more on that later.
The blue-on-white fesse of Boeufs is shared by Cullis, in fact, and with Roet-suspect Chartres'/Charters too, and then Charts use a blue-on-white chevron, colors reversed from the Payne-Roet chevron. Roets are looking front-and-center in the blue-apple riddle, but note that the Cullis bend has the Sword sword.
John Beaufort had a son (duke of Somerset) by the same name, who married a Holland surname, and it just so happens that the Holland surname shares a round-tailed lion (as I call it) with the Gate surname. The lion colors of the Hollands is that of the German Roll lion, both upright. Hallands use the Roll lion in colors reversed, which is the Caepio lion, but probably also the Bruce / Louvain lion because Hallands were first found in Yorkshire.
As Pollocks, with Dobers, traced to the Catter (fish, a symbol of Gate-suspect Geddes') and Calen lines from the marriage of Pansa Caetronianus with Calenus, it's interesting that a daughter of John Beaufort married John de Pole of Suffolk, where the Blois surname was first found now suspect with the "palet" bars of the Role's. John's mother was a Chaucer of neighboring Kent whose grandmother in-turn was a Roet. All in the family, right? For political / power-house purposes, right? Like peoples possessed of demons, unable to break free.
Kent is where the Holland surname was ruling. Kent was stacked with Gaetuli Numidians (lived in Aures, where Kanza was from) suspect with the Gate's who use the Holland lion design. The Kent Numidians are suspect also with Kanza, wife of Idris of Morocco whose lines went to the Fes/Fay family suspect with lines from Porcius Cato. Again, the surname of Porcius Cato was already suspect with an ancient Gaetuli line that included Gate-related Seatons. As the Fes/Fay surname has been linked to the Foix/Foy surname, by what coincidence did de-Pols come to rule Foix-Candale?
Chaucers use a bend half in the colors of the Jewish Pollock bend, suggesting that, indeed, the de-Pole's were Pollock liners. This picture explains why Romneys use the Arms of the count of Blois, for the Romney Coat is a version of the Pullen Coat, thus adding Pullens to the list of Pollock kin. Just always remember, English Blois', using dragons in the colors of Jewish Pollocks (why Jewish?), were first found where de-Pole's ruled with Roets...who go way back, with Pollocks, to Pansa. The ancestry of Payne Roet is not shown, but he goes back to Pansa, no doubt through some form(s) of Payens.
See a Rumigny location in Somme, Picardy, where Lorraine's came together with Croys of Picardy and Roeulk, perhaps explaining why Calen's look like Lorraine's. If you click back to the earliest Croy, of Croy, we find that he married Araines, afterwhich the Croys were styled, "de Araines." There is an Araines/Darrin surname (Northumberland), looking like it may be using the Chaucer / Lorraine bend, though the Coat looks much like the Romney Coat.
Charts use another greyhound, and were first found in the same place (Somerset) as Roets / Beauforts and GREYhound-using Church's. I had found an article telling that Roets were from Croys (see black greyhound in an Arms of Croy at Wikipedia's article on house of Croy), who are listed with GREYs, first found in Northumberland, and looking like a branch of Jefferson-suspect Joplins, likewise first found in Northumberland. As the white-on-red lion of the latter two is used by Garlands, the white lion in the Gar Crest may apply, in which case "Grey" may be of the Geary variation of Gars. This may be revealing that the Carian elements suspect in Gars were also of the mythical Graeae Amazons.
The motto of the Boughs (Durham), you see, uses a Caria-based term used also by Roets, and that Caria entity is where the Gars/Karens trace. Therefore, Roets merged with Caepio line Gars/Karens, not surprising if Pansa was himself merged with Caepio's.
The stained-glass window at the Magdalene church does not reference to blue-apple riddle whatsoever: "Perhaps the most enigmatic elements mentioned in the text as decoded by Lionel Fanthorpe is the phrase 'Blue Apples at Noon.'" A few updates ago, I deciphered the 'Sophia Neveu" code of Dan Brown (author of Da-Vinci Code) as per Nevin and Navy/Neve lines to SophoNIBA (also "Sophonisba"). Since that time, I have been adamant that any motto using "non" is suspect as a line to Sophonisba, because the Non surname is registered with Nevins. The point here is, all the time that I was tracing Brown's code to the Nons, I had forgotten that the blue-apple riddle used "Noon." Non-incidence?
There is a Noon surname (uses a "modo" motto term, suspect with Modi'in elements), first found in Norfolk. The Romney-related Lombars were first found in Norfolk, and they may trace to Lombres in Artois, about 15-20 miles from Avesnes. It can be predicted that Lombars have something to do with Pollock-Otter elements at the Blois family around Chaucers.
Why do Chartrans use "mon"? Isn't that a little conspicuous, that the surname using gold apples should be linking to Mons, Noons, and Roet elements near/in Lombres? The Lys/Lisse surname uses more greyhounds, how about that, and then Lombres is a spit in the north wind from the Lys river. Did you happen to catch the red bull in the Arms of Avesnes? Perhaps that latter term is pig-Latin code for "Savena," for the Savona surname (NORFOLK!) uses both a red bull and a giant red scallop, the latter being found in the Lombar and Romney Coats. Plus, while the Savena river is something to be linked both with Guido Guerra and the family of Pansa Caetronianus, Lombers are said to be from Lomer-sur-GUERNE (Normandy).
The Savone/Saven surname, moreover, in the colors of the Arms of Payne Roet, was first found in the same place (Somerset) as Roets and Beauforts. The latter could be expected to use the bull in Boeuf/Beef-like variations. If you check out Turnbulls, you will see cause for tracing Boeufs/Beefs (first found in the same place as Saunier's) to Mieszko liners, which is what the unicorn in the Lombar Crest suggests (i.e. Cnut).
Now the Reno river through the Setta valley, and meeting the Savena river where Guido Guerra had some kingdom to speak of, was traced as a name to "Renier/RAINier" of Montferrat, whose granddaughter married Guido Guerra III. The point in repeating this is because the Romney and Lomber Coats look like versions of the Araines Coat, and Airaines is the location where Roet-related Croys had some kingdom. Therefore, it seems that Araines should trace to "Rainier" of Montferrat. Airaines is near Abbe(y)ville, where the MacAbees trace, in my opinion.
As part of his code's, Dan Brown had "Salvator," like the "Suaviter" motto term of Noons.
I suggested that Salvator was a Sava-river branch of Severus', for example the Saviour/Saver surname (Essex, where Sava-river Gore's were first found), using a fesse in colors reversed to the Non/Nevin fesse, which is in the Chartres and Boeuf fesse colors. I didn't have cause to look at the Noon surname at the time, not until now, which tends to show that I'm on the right track with de-coding Brown's symbolism as mere surnames. Forget the stained-glass window, and read why it's a non-event at this article:
http://www.societe-perillos.com/blueapples.htmlThe Chartres Coat is one with a double tressure border, tracing to Roet elements no doubt in the Treasure bloodline. Perhaps the greyhound-using Trees/True surname applies.
As Nicholas de Vere is involved in pushing Da-Vinci code lore, note what we read in the page above: "...it is known that [Sauniere] indeed ordered a series of stained glassed windows from a 'Henri Feur -- painter glassmaker in Bordeaux'. The name of Feur can still be seen written on some of the stained glasses inside the church. " The Feur unicorn is in the End(er) Coat, which may be cited by the "True to the end" motto of Hume's, for True's use the two greyhounds of the Lys/Lisse surname, though the same design (likewise in black-on-white) is in use by the Charts. Didn't Croys also use a black greyhound?
With the Trees'/True's now linking fairly to Treasure's, it's important that Trees'/True's were first found in Warwickshire, which place I trace to Warsaw (Melusine snake woman in its Arms), near a Traby location. The Treasure's are thus suspect as a Traby line, and yet the green Treasure dragons are suspect with the green Guerra dragons.
Carters trace their name to "guard," and then Lawrence GARDner wrote junk on the Da-Vinci-Code theme. I have read that Nicholas de Vere had something to do with Gardner's book.
Another surname (besides the Carters) with lions facing one another are Kellys/Killions, suspect from Cilnius Maecenas. If the Kelly lions were in colors reversed, they would be the Caepio lions. The Kellogs have greyhounds in colors reversed to Kellys, as well as a chevron in the colors of greyhound-using Charts. If Carters can be Gar liners, so can Charts, and this recalls the blue-on-white lions of Irish Gars/Gearys...suspect as the Greys/Croys. That would explain a Croy trace to Guido Guerra, even as the Croy element of Airaines traces to that same man.
I have never read what the article goes on to say (below), and yet I insisted that heraldry reveals a Caiaphas line to Rennes-le-Chateau: "This fresco also contains a depiction of the baluster, where Sauniere is known to have recovered something from; as evidence, we have the baluster itself, and the evidence of Antoine Captier, Sauniere's bell ringer, who was the person who actually saw that something was hidden inside. But in the case of the blue apples, the hint is totally non-specific, and neither insightful or comical." There is no Captier surname coming up, but Feur-suspect Drakes use "CAPTat," and Geddes a "CAPTa," in their mottos. What should we make of this Captier fellow? Did he have a gold bell? Did he really ring bells? Or is someone pulling out legs?
The Gardner Coat (Kaplan griffins in Noon colors) looks like it can be a version of the English Capone (or Camp) Coat, discovered earlier as kin of CAPOTE's! If only one of these Coats would have a gold bell or some "ding" motto term.
Gardners were first found in Vere-y Oxfordshire, and that's where the Tiens/Thames were first found who trace hard to the Donkeys and donkey-using Chamberlains, and therefore to Italian CAPOTE's using a mule. The Tiens'/THAMES' use a chevron in the colors of the same of Duncans and Chamberlains. The Tiens use footless martins, the Apple and Appleby symbols, important in this case because apple-suspect Apollo was made a twin of Artemis from THEMIScyra. Does this mean that the Apple surname could be in honor of Apollo liners? Could "Blois" be from the "Abello" version of "Apollo"? I trace this "god" to "Abilene / Abila" between Syria and Lebanon. But did the creators of the blue-apple riddle have Apollo in mind? Probably not.
Suppose I could find for you a Capt-like surname that showed also like a Cato / Chattan term, and with a symbol of Murena, the family that Cilnius Maecenas married. And suppose that this surname was first found in the area of Italian Gaul where Quintus Caepio had his tasks for the Roman caesar? Later, Julius caesar appointed Pansa Caetronianus to Cisalpine Gaul, and then the Capone's and Julians were first found in the same place, in CHAMBERlian-like CAMBRidgeshire. Well, the Capitano/Cattano surname, using the Murena tower, was first found in the southern part of Emilia. What does that mean?
The eastern boundary [of Emilia] is formed by the rivers Sillaro and Reno, which divide it from Romagna...To the west and south the Apennine drainage divide separates it from Liguria and Tuscany. Administratively it comprises the provinces of Piacenza, Parma, Reggio Emilia, Modena, Ferrara (except for the communes of Imola and Dozza, and the valley of the Santerno) and Bologna.The region corresponds approximately to the ancient Cispadane Gaul which, under the Augustan territorial organisation of Italia c. 7 CE, became Regio VIII Aemilia.
So, this Cisalpine Gaul was in the very thick of things for furnishing the Israeli priesthoods. The split Shield of Capitano's/Cattano's is that also of Popoli's, first found in the same place (Naples) as Capua's/Capone's/Caputo's. But, again, there is not found a "ding" nor a "dong" motto term in these Coats. I don't think the 'P' in the Popoli Coat stands for "ping."
But wait. Look at the Murena tower, in the same white color, in the Chatan Coat. That can't be coincidental. I was sure that Clan Chattan was a Cato line, and here the Chatan surname, using a version of the Chattan Coat, is tracing to the Capitano/Cattano surname. Do you think there was a merger between a Cato and Capit-like surname? Apparently. And look, the Chatans were first found in Poitou, where the Porter surname will later trace, and it's Porters who use bells because they are said to be from the idea of "bell ringer." Ha ha, that's so funny. But it's not true. It's just what they want us to believe. There probably was no bell ringer at Rennes-le-Chateau's church (does your church have a bell ringer?); there must instead have been some Masonic bell theme for a trace of the Captier surname to the Porter bloodline...just as I just traced the Capitano's to Poitou, where Potters and related Porters trace.
I wrote that before loading the Chattan surname to read that Chatto's intermarried with two families of Northumberland, Percys and Potts!!! The Percys are suspect with Porcius Cato! This can be fun.
As the floor of Saunier's church is said to have black-and-white checks, note the same in the Majordomo Coat, for "Capta"-using Geddes use a motto term in honor of Majors...who use yet another greyhound. Then, the Popoli-suspect Pepoli's use a Shield filled with black-and-white checks, as do Majordomo's, and that seems to clinch the use of the Popoli Shield by Capitano's, and moreover it seems to clinch the trace of "Capta" to Capitano's. But to have Gate-suspect Geddes' involved in this trace expects that the Cato bloodline is involved, especially as fish are shared by Geddes' and Catters. There seems to be a triangular relationship between Caepio, Cato, and Caetronianus liners.
Like other Porcius lines using a cat, the Potts Crest uses a cat (leopard) sitting down. Potts were first found in Durham. German Potts look like they should link to Mieske's, and Mieszko liners had traced hard to Durham. Drakes, from Masovia's dukes, and suspect with Wears at the Wear river at Durham, were first found in the same place (Hampshire) as Potters, Porters and Botters. Potts look like they are using the Halt/Holt Shield traced in the last update to Mieszko's wife, Oda. The Oxford and Stout surnames use similar Coats.
Majors and Greys share the anchor theme as code for Anchors/Annackers, and the latter use the Noon bull design. It's important because, while Noons are suspect with the Grey-Roet lines, Hounds (also "Houn") are suspect with Attila's Huns leading to the Magyar Hungarians. Quints share the lion paw with Noons, tracing to Boofima in Africa.
The Feur unicorn is used by German Troys (Mecklenburg) in the colors of the Kelly lions, and then Irish Troys, first found in the same area as Kellys, have two griffins facing one another. The apple-using Paris' likely trace back to Trojans, and Apollo was a Trojan ally.
As the Lys river is at Lille while the Arms of Lille use the fleur-de-lys in Lys-lys colors, it's interesting that the Lille surname, first found in the same place (Norfolk) as Noons, uses the fitchee cross design of Stouts/Stows and Halts/Holts, thus bringing the Siward-line Mieszko's into riddle, who are expected in Artois from other factors. The Lille Coat appears to be a version of the Winchester Coat, which itself uses fitchees, and then even the Fitch Coat uses leopards, likely for the Boofima cult. Why do we think a fitchee cross, like a stabbing tool, is used by a human-sacrifice cult? When the fitchee is held by a leopard / lion paw, as is the case of the Quint Crest, it's very Boofima-suspect.
Aha! Sawyers were likewise first found in Norfolk, and they not only use martlets on a blue Shield as do Apple's (six martlets), but a "Cherches" motto term. The Sawyer martlets are in the colors of the same of Dickensons (six martlets). It's hard to nail down what Church's may have been named after with so few variations to go by. Perhaps they are using the Craig fesse, and perhaps "Cherches" is code for Carrick liners, for Carricks use black talbot dogs that may be versional to the black Church greyhounds.
Kirks (share the crozier with Wears) look like they ought to trace to Siward elements at the Wear river, as well as to Alpin elements at the founding of Scots. The Alpins/Cappins, who share the blue thistle with Kirks, use a fir tree, and then the Fur surname is listed with Feurs. The Feur unicorn may thus be, not just the Troy unicorn, but that of Cnut.
The Atkins ("Vincit" motto term), who had traced earlier to a fundamental Mieszko relationship with both Brix's and the blue Bruce lion, use a single "tressure." That's what they call it. The Treasure surname (fitchee crosses in the mouth of green dragons does not paint a nice picture) has a Crest with a stag "adorned with red blood drops, between two fern branches."
The Treasure fitchees are in the colors of the Toste/Taft crosslets, perhaps important due to Tosts being first found in the same place (Yorkshire) as Dorns (shown properly as "Dawn/Daun"), whom I'm pegging with the "adorn" code. The Daun/Dorn Coat is a fesse in colors reversed to the one used by counts of Blois, and moreover the Dorn bend comes with bendlets too, as does the Blois bend. The Dauns/Downs could be from the Durance-river Ligurians that were at DUNholm, the alternative name of Durham.
I figure that the only creature in this world to adorn his sweetie with blood drops is a vampire, or a WEARwolf, so to speak, for the Treasure fitchees are also in the colors of the Wear crosslets, and of the Drake dragon. A fitchee cross is like the stake used in Dracula themes. The Feur-surname link to Trojans is suggesting where "Thrasher" may be a "Thrace" version, similar to "Drake." Tragers were first found beside Devon, where Wears were first found. Tragers were first found in the same place (Cornwall) as Triss'/Trysts, i.e. who smack of "Treasure/Thrash," near to where Treasure's were first found. Triss' are honored in the motto of apple-suspect Hebrons/HEPburns, in the colors of Hepple's, first found in Northumberland, beside the Wear river.
The evidence thus mounts that Mieszko / Siward lines at Northumberland down to the Wear river trace to the blue-apple riddle. This can be explained where Pharisee liners were in cahoots with Caiaphas liners.
An alternative is that the Treasure/Thrasher fitchees are a version of the Cobble crosses, for Cabbels were first found in the same place (Somerset) as Treasure's/Thrashers.
The "fern" term in the Treasure/Thrasher description gets the Farne/Fern/Fearn surname (Ross-shire), probably important because Bamburgh (Northumberland) is onshore of the Farne islands. The G(u)ards may be important here because Wikipedia's article on Bamburgh spells its old version, "Din Guardi." The "Guaire / Guarie" versions of that location suggest that the green Treasure/Thrasher dragon can apply to the green Guerre dragon.
The Irish Hare/Garry surname shows a "fear" motto term, and the Fears/Fere's are stated as a Vere branch, first found in the same place (Middlesex) as Babels! Had I not treated Siward just before completing this blue-apple section, I would not have understood the importance of queen Bebba in the blue-apple themes. We'll see this again. The line of Bebba goes forward to the Vere entity of Melusine at the founding the Scots with Siward's ancestry. There is a Goplo - Bamburgh - Rennes-le-Chateau triangle shaping up, but with Goplo elements in Artois and Picardy.
Hesdins/Hestons were likewise first found in Middlesex. The Hesdin location is in the Montreuil area of Picardy, which may be considered fundamental part of the Roet "kingdom." Hesdins use the Wear crosslets in colors reversed, as well as using the blue Vere boar. As Rollo's/Rollocks use blue boars too, it would appear that Rollo named Roeulk of the Roets, and that Rollo is behind the Role / Roll surnames.
The blue color of Hesdins reminds me of the blue wings used by two Here surnames as well as Herzogs. The latter were first found in Bavaria, where the Has/Haas surname was first found using only a hare. The idea here is that the Hesdin term links with the House/Hause-related Heslingtons as well as with this Has/Haas surname, and, as a result, the Hare/Garry surname, which traced excellently shortly above to "Din Guarie," brings all of these surnames to a partnership with Bebbanburgs at Bamburgh. Bamberg of Germany is in Bavaria.
But as the "HAZard" motto term of green-dragon Seatons was suspect with a Has(monean) entity in league with an Ard entity, it appears that Seatons were merged with Hesdin-of-Artois elements. By what coincidence were Roets at Mons? The "Forward" motto term of Seatons is suspect with the Guerra-suspect Wards (same chequey Shield as Warrens), and then the "For" syllable may be for Fers / Fears / etc.
I would suggest that Hesdins are using the Cobble chevron, especially as Kibble's/Kebbells (stars in the colors of the Atkin stars) were first found in Middlesex with Hesdins, and likewise use a red chevron. "Kebbell" probably traces to "Chivel" near Hesdin. The Kibble / Atkin stars are in colors reversed in the Ashton Coat, that being a surname like the Heston variation of Hesdins.
Wondering whether the Middle surname applies to these Middlesex elements, it was found to use what looks like a Shield-on-Shield, though called an "engrailed border," like that of Hepple's/Epple's. In any case, the latter seem apple-important and were first found in the same place (Northumberland) as Bamburgh. When HEPburns were mentioned above, it was in relation to Treasure-suspect Triss'. Might the Triss bloodline have formed a Treasure surname due to having some of the Caepio gold bars? Why does the Appleby write-up say that Appleby, a town near where Hepburns were first found, was a favorite place for raids? Did word get around that there was hidden treasure there?
The "engrailed-BORDER" Coat above is like that also of Sellicks (HEREfordshire), who use pierced stars, symbol of the Atkins who use a single tressure BORDER...and the greyhound design of Church's, first found in the same place as Treasure's/Thrashers. Although Atkins are from Goplo elements, I say that they trace with Aikens to Aachen (Belgian border with France), an important part of the kingdom of Pepinids...who trace back to queen Bebba.
If you had been half-convinced that the Childeric liners were in the Chill/Child surname, we first of all note that the Child Coat is a version of the Coat used by Hepburns (first found in CHILLingham), and then see that the Chill/Child Coat is also a version of the Hereford Coat. What Here entity named Hereford? Probably a BLUE wing one, all of which are suspect with "Din Guaire."
As Sellers use a Coat like that of Childs and Hepburns, Sellicks are likely a branch of Sellers, and the latter are suspect as Silure's of Wales. But wait, for the Tudors (Wales) likewise use the Seller format, and Tudors (HEREfordshire) related to John of Gaunt, husband of Catherine Roet, which makes the Shield-and-Chief color combination of Sellicks suspect with that of French Role's. And as Role's have become suspect with blue-boar Rollo's, it suggests strongly that the same Shield-and-Chief color combination of Tanners applies. The Tanners, as with Roets, seem to be in the blue-apple riddle, which I'll get to shortly.
To whom do all the white-on-red chevrons above, all surrounded by three white-on-red symbols, trace? Sulla of Rome came to mind, wherefore the Sole/Sully Coat was checked to find a red-on-white chevron surrounded by three white-on-red symbols! It even uses the engrailed-border design. It may not be coincidental. But as this surname was from a Solney location, perhaps the Saunier's/Saulnier's apply.
If "Pepin" trace's to "Bebban(Burg)," why not Childeric? There is a Bebban surname listed with Bevans/Beevans (dove), first found in the same place (Herefordshire) as Sellicks, Tudors, etc., thus building the evidence that Here's were from "Din Guaire." The "eagle rising" in the Bebban/BeeVAN Crest suggests Lake Van elements (i.e. where I trace the phoenix), and then Merovingians were from Veneti. I'm fairly sure that Lake-Van elements, inhabited anciently by a Biaini peoples, trace to the Bain and Vain septs of Mackays. Bains (branch of Chattan) use the cat theme now suspect with Porcius Cato and/or the Capitano/Cattano surname that seemed to be using the Popoli Shield. Chattans / Chatans use the bend in colors of the bend used by counts of Blois. Couldn't this mean that Capitano's, suspect with Quintus Caepio, trace to blue Blois?
Aha! As Beavers (in Oxford-surname colors) are suspect from the Bevan-like variation of Bebbans, so we find the Beaver surname first found in Berkshire, where the cats were tracing (e.g. the Crom) that also traced to Rennes-le-Chateau. The Berk's themselves use a cat-a-mountain. German Beavers show some Babel-like variations; it figures, meaning that the green Arms-of-Oxford beaver is likely code for Bebba elements. What's all the Masonic fuss with Bebba? Which particular killer of Jesus traced to her?
Now Oxford is at London, where the Capes' were first found who come up as "Capet." The Spanish Capets are split in half green and red, while the Capitano's are split gold and red. It recalls the London / Lundy merger with Levens (Quint chevron?), and then one London surname (odd white on white), first found in Berkshire, shares the Murena tower with Capitano's and Chatans. The other Londons use the gold crown of Capets and Martels. It seemed certain, aside from this, that Londons were a branch from Landen, and the Capetians even went back to a Landrada of Hesbaye (near Landen), thought by some historians to have been a daughter of Charles Martel. Therefore, the Capitano/Catano surname, which I have never stressed, is looking like the line of Caepio's to the Capetians. "Capitano" is not recorded in any of my files.
Of some interest now that Sulla is possibly involved to the lines of Childs, Sellers, Tudors, etc. (all in the colors of one Cornwall/Cornell Coat), is that his name is said at Wikipedia to have been of the Cornelii gens. The Cornovii, said to be founders of Cornwall, had a branch in the part of northern Wales that Tudors are said to originate in ("originate" is a relative term). Sulla's wife, Julia Caesaris "was the daughter of consul Lucius Julius Caesar II and Poppilia." Could that latter woman explain the Popoli surname, or perhaps the Poppy/Popilly surname? (I didn't know that "Caesar" was a surname until now. I thought it was a title, like "king." I'll deal with the Caesar surname later.)
To trace Bebba's line back before her time, go through the Melusines = peoples of Lusignan to the Luce's at the feet of Caracalla. You would then be at 200 AD, earlier with the birth of his parents. Take the line back through Julia Domna to Herod Agrippa. But if correct that Caracalla's family turned the Luce / Saraka fish into a lily = fleur-de-lys, his line is expected to go through Childeric / Clovis.
We saw that Buchens and Rutherfords also use a single border, and while the Buchens call theirs simply a "border," the Border surname (no Coat shown) was first found in the same place (Somerset) as Treasure's/Thrashers. That explains it. The Scotts, first found in the same place as Rutherfords, use the engrailed border like that of Hepple's/Epple's. The Rutherfords call their border an "orle," suggesting the Orells of Orleans, a dog-walk from Blois.
Upon finding that Orells likewise use bendlets (i.e. like the counts of Blois), it was time to check for a bendlet-like surname. The Bendle's/Bendalls (crowned blue lion in Louvain lion colors) happen to have been first found in Middlesex. How about that. Moreover, the write-up says that the surname may be from Benthall just four miles from Bamburgh! I kid you not, that the Middlesex / Middle section above was already written in full by the time of this find. Middlesex is where the Babels and Guaire-related Fears were first found.
See if you can find a border in the Waire/Ware Coat. It's not there, and yet the description says: "Gold with two blue lions, and a blue border with 8 gold shells." It appears that "border" is a code connecting with Din Guaire," if "Waire" is a Guaire variation. Waire's were first found in Devon i.e. beside Somerset. German Babels were first found in the Baden area, and then the Baden/Battin surname was first found in the same place (Somerset) as Middle's, Treasure's, Borders, Roets, etc. The Roets go back to John of Gaunt at Candale, at Bordeaux.
Did you notice that the Bendell blue lion is in the colors of the Waire blue lions? It strongly supports a Waire/Ware trace to "Din Guaire," and suggests a Waire linkage to the son of Siward marrying the Louvain crew. That is, it suggests that the namers of Din Guaire were the Wears at the Wear river. And as the Treasure's are linking to this, the green Treasure dragon should indeed be the green Guerra wyvern. The Waire Coat compares not badly with the Sewer Coat, and then Sewards were first found in the same place as Waire's. The "broken sword blade" of the Waire dragon can be gleaned as including the Swords (said to be from Siward)...and Broke's/Brocks, first found in the same place as Vere's.
We go back now to the Babcock-branch of Bebba lines, the write-up of which tells of Bat versions of the Babcock name. Those versions would appear to be due to a merger with Badens/Battins. Babcocks (rooster design of Aikens) were first found in the same place as all-seeing-eye Watts. Badens/Battins also use a human eye, you see.
There are multiple reasons as to why Wears, Waire's and Heslingtons should be linked to Shapleys, first found in Devon, and looking like a branch of Chapels. The "wreath" used by Chapels is the co-called "chaplet" of Jocelyns. The Jocelyn motto includes "Faire mon," and the Jocelyn chaplet included "hawks bells." I'm hearing a dingaling from Mr. Captier at Rennes-le-Chateau.
I'm sure you'll want to check out the three Faire surnames, who look like Voirs, for one, and like Feurs. What a coincidence, for the Captier bell-ringer was mentioned in the same article as Mr. Feur, the window provider at Rennes-le-Chateau. Irish Faire's also come up as "Fear," wherefore Faire's are part of the Din Guaire version of Bamburgh.
We can be sure that the Pepinid descendants of Bebba led to the naming of Poppa of Bamberg, Germany. There is a Poppa surname, first found in Piedmont (location of Montferrat, where Guido Guerra married), using the gold-on-black lion of the snap-vision Gars/Karens. How about that. Nobels, first found in the same place as Scottish Faire's, use nearly the two Waire lions, in the same blue-on-gold colors.
Finally, the Blue Apple RiddleHere's the blue-apple riddle (capitals not mine, italics mine to highlight the riddle portions):
After the death of Sauniere, hidden parchments were found, ciphered in Latin, with this message in French: "This treasure belongs to DAGOBERT II and to Sion and he is there dead." A second parchment read: "Shephardess no temptation that Pousinn Teniers hold the key. Peace 681 by the cross and this Horse of God. I complete this daemon guardian at midday. Blue Apples." Another strange phrase was found with "Blue Apples at Noon". The "BLUE APPLES" are decipherable only through the use of the "Knight´s Tour", a game of chess.The Chess surname was first found in the same place as Noons, probably not coincidental. The Chess Crest share's the gold lion head of Irish Troys, important if the latter were related to German Troys using the Feur unicorn. But as the Chess-Crest lion is the one in the Coat, which is very comparable to the Ferrari lion, it would seem that Mr. Feur was a Ferrari liner.
It is notable that the Portuguese Ferrari's use a bend in the colors of the Porci/Porcini and Fes/Fay bends, and then the Faire's show also as "FAYer." Vere's use a boar suspect with the Porcia boars. A thing I have not noticed until now is the Hiero variation of Portuguese Ferrari's, like "Hierosolyma," the Greek for "Jerusalem." The Herrera variation of the same Ferrari's then smacks of Here's using wings in the color of the blue Vere boar.
Scottish Herrs/Hare's show a "Hair" now suspect with "Guaire / Waire." As they were first found in Ayrshire, they must be a branch of Hayers/Eyers/Ayers and Ayers. The latter are the ones sharing the Crom / Vincent quatrefoils, and the Crom Cat has linked rather well to the line of Porcius Cato. The Herrs/Hare's, a branch of English Hare's, look like they relate to Halds/Holts and Holders, from Mieszko elements. There are plenty of gold bars in multiple of these surnames.
As the peacock will soon become important to the riddle, see the peacock-using Maness surname (Northumberland), for it not only looks like a Here/Hare version in colors reversed, but it's a branch of Mens', while the latter are honored by Pepins, who are suspect at Goplo as well as at Din Guaire. The reason that Guaire / Guerra elements should trace to Goplo is due to Vere and Drake involvement in the dukes of Masovia. What you're seeing now is the pile-up of Guerra-suspect surnames from the Pharisees at Ferrara, before or after they moved to Montferrat and merged with the Guerra family. However, the Bebba Bernicians predate Guido Guerra by centuries.
We are therefore able to capture a snapshot of early Pharisees in the Bamburgh-to-Wear stretch of Northumberland, and it relates closely to the blue-apple riddle. The Chess surname came up due to the "Knight's Tour" code, and Knights are a branch of Cnut's from the Halt/Holt line of line of Haldensleben > Swietoslawa. But Knights will trace to the very counts of Blois, giving a clue as to the blue origins of Blois in the Blade bloodline. It was the Waire's/Ware's who use a "broken blade" in the mouth of a dragon.
The Blade's are said to be from a "Drago de BeWERE." Later, the Frank Coats, one of which has the same saltire as the Blade saltire, will be identified both with Noons and Cnut. If you want to fast-forward to that topic now, search "Non nobis nati."
When writing on Shep-terms earlier, including the Shepherds and Shapleys, as they can connect to Caiaphas lines, none of the blue-apple riddle was on my mind. I had forgotten that the riddle included "shepherdess." And when stressing Tiens, I had not yet seen this riddle quote...which uses "Pousinn TENiers". There is a Teniers/Tenart surname, a term looking like a Tanner variation, or perhaps a Ten - Art combination. If it is a Tanner branch, it can trace to Montferrat's Tanaro river, and more particularly to the Paeonians at Asti (Tanaro river), where the Tanner PINE cones trace.
We might like to know why the Pine's/Pyne's (Devon again, where Tanners were first found) chose pineAPPLES rather than just a pine tree or cone. Pyne's use the Wayne Coat and can therefore link to Veyne's/Phone's at Fano (Picenum), beside/with the pine-cone Maschi's. Both Wayne's and Veyne's use gauntlet gloves that link to John of Gaunt (named after Gaunt/Ghent in Belgium), and therefore to the Belgian elements of the Roets at Macey-related Maccabees of Mons. The "Ne vile" motto phrase of Veyne's suggests Nivelle in Belgium. Maceys definitely trace to the Non surname, and then Dutch Ghents use a fesse in the colors of the Nons/Nevin fesse. Moreover, the Shield-and-Chief color combination of the Role's and Tanners is in use by English Ghents. Non of this necessarily proves, so far, that Teniers were Tanners/Tenners, but an analyses of the Tanner symbol has led to Roets, known to be part of the riddle lot.
Tennesons (garland in Crest), using leopards, were first found in Oxfordshire, as were Tienes'/Thames' and related, leopard-using Pears/Perle's. Tennesons are said to be a branch of "Dennis," and then one Dennis/Denison Coat uses what could be an Alan Shield.
There are two Poussin surnames, the English one using barry in Berry barry colors. The other Poussin surname (first found in Maine) uses three suns suspect with the Saulnier variation of Saunier's. No surname comes up as "Pousinn" or "Pousin," and so the writer may have used "Pousinn" to hide that Poussins were intended.
The English Poussin Crest is a "silver cat passant." The Croms use a passant cat too, in what looks like code for Rennes-le-CHATeau." We want to be open to the possibility that "Chateau" was named after a Porcius-Cato line. Croms and Vincents use the same QUATreFOIL, part code for neighboring Roquefeuil, right? Poussins and Croms were both first found in Berkshire, how about that, and Berks use a passant cat too. The cat may also act as code for the Pusey variation of Poussins.
It's very interesting that the Passan/Paston Coat is virtually the Chill/Child Coat, for Rennes-le-Chateau's mystery is predicted to be a Childeric subject. The surname is traced to a Warren surname in a Paston location.
Anything in this update mentioning Cato is added during the proof read. While reading the paragraph above, the idea came to mind that "Poussin" was a Porcini variation minus the 'r'. So, I checked Parsons to see whether they used any Poussin symbols, but they turned out to look like a branch of Pears/Pearls. " I then checked "Person," and what do you know, three suns!!! They are half on the blue Shield of the three Poussin suns. The Person surname is also "Pearson/Pierson," and I do believe very strongly that Porcia's trace to Percivals and therefore to Pierce's.
The thin bends of the Gar/Karen and Charo/Claro Coats were recently addressed, but there is another surname using one, in the BLUE color of the Charo/Claro bend; it's the Berkshire surname. The latter should be suspect as an Eburo term where Pepins are expected to be Paphlagonians in the sources of the Maeander river, where Mens . Maness kin of Pepins are expected to originate. These were are the non-Israeli Hebrews of the Hyksos > Aphrodite kind. The Israeli-priest lines under the Romans (from Trojans) were, by many indications, merged with these Hebrews.
Not likely by coincidence, there is another cat in the Berk/Burgh Crest, used with a code likely for the Capes-related Gardners: "A cat-a-mountain sejant guardant proper, collared and chained, gold." The Chaine surname is also CHESney, perhaps part of that chess code. Collars use the Tanner Moor heads and look like they should trace to the Kupa river with Cole's. Collars may also be using a version of the Canning/Canyng Coat.
As Gards (blue-apple suspects) are Yonge kin, note the "Ung" motto terms of Berks/Burghs. Gards were looking like Gaetuli at one point, and yet they can also be of the Gar / Guerra line where Guido's were Gaetuli too. It suggests Carians merged with Gaetuli, and then Cato's are expected as a Gaetuli line.
I trace the white wolves of Yonge-related Gore's/Core's and Gowers/Gore's to Quillan, very near Rennes-le-Chateau, because Quillans/Killans use a white wolf. Is this place a hard-C version of "Silanus"? After all, while Silanus and Junius were related surnames, the Yonge's and Gore's both trace to the Una river of Juno, and moreover Gards are shown as "UNiack," as though merged with a family named after the Una river. That is very compelling, suggesting that the line of Servilia Caepio and her husband, Decimus JUNIUS Silanus, were at Rennes-le-Chateau! I had no such idea until the proof read of this section. This section was written about two weeks before the Silano section was inserted in the last update.
The Silano's looked like the Satyr line of mythical Silenus, important in the Carians because the latter had a mythical Selene that should apply. The Marsyas goat cult (Phrygian) was likewise at the sources of the Maeander, and then the Pepin-related Bebbanburgs lived beside or amongst Mercians. That works, especially where Gards trace to "Din Guaire" which was also "GUARDie"! I get it now. Din Guaire was a Carian location amongst Paphlagonians and Marsyas Phrygians, all from the Maeander river. The Dennis surname above is said to be from "Dionysus," whose Maenads locate him on the Maeander. Therefore, Teniers may indeed be Tennesons / Dennis'.
Apollo skinned Marsyas alive because the two cults were closely related, but mythical apples of Greece belonged both to Hera and Aphrodite, begging whether blue Here's were named after Hera elements. Aphrodite (mated with Hera-related Ares) was out of Paphos, which may have been Paphlagonian, wherefore we could expect apple liners in Bamburgh. Look at the apple-like "PAPHL."
The upright dragon in the Quillan/Killan Crest is in the BLUE colors of the Will griffin, and as Wills are the ones sharing the Kelly/Killion Enfield griffin, "Kelly" is thus revealed as a line from Decimus Silano! Wills come up as "Velis" while the Velis surname is the one sharing the Julian/Gillian cross!! I get it: the Gillian version of "Julian" may have to do with his illegitimate line(s) from Servilia Caepionis merging with her legitimate line(s) with Decimus Junius Silanus.
Jeffersons, who trace to the Una-river theater, use the blue griffin too, not to mention a blue-on-gold leopard, the colors of the Seward leopards. There is no problem tracing Siward to the Sava river. Jeffersons share a "SALUS" motto term with Una-river Gore's, which causes me to expect Jeffersons along with Wills at Quillan. It can explain why the Italian Roman surname uses the very same white wolf as Quillans. These Romans were first found in Naples, near the Apollo-line Avellino location, where wolf-liners Hirpini lived.
Welsh Jeffersons use a griffin "SEJANt," code for the SALAmander-using Sagans/Segans. Isn't Siward related to Sagans? The latter trace to Sawyers using footless martlets in the colors of the same of Enfields. Might the Ens be from the Una? Or, as they are "ENDfield" too, might they be from Endymion and Selene?
The Enfield-using Wills share three suns with Maine's Poussins, and then the latter have just become suspect as a Porcia line due to the three suns of the Persons/Pearsons. Porcius Cato is suspect for the time being with the formation of Sadducees, and then the Enfields use their eight martins on a Shield like that of the same of Saddocks / Chadocks. If these suns trace to Helios on Rhodes, the Enfields could be from his sister, Selene, lover of Endymion. That would make Enfields related to Rhodes-suspect Roets and Gars/Karens.
We could start asking who, in the Caria / Rhodes theater, the Paphlagonians were. As the Heneti were merged with Paphlagonians, "ENDyMION" looks like code for Heneti merged with "MAEANder, for mythical ANTenor was a Trojan code for the Heneti. Apple-like Pelops is one I identify as a Heneti liner because he ruled in a Lydian location of Eneti. He was Apollo, wasn't he?
The Enfield surname, sharing footless martlets with the Apple's, were first found in the same place (Berkshire) as Poussins! I don't yet know why, but Porcia-suspect Poussins are tracing to Rhodians. I am already sure that "Porcia" will trace to Hyksos Hebrews at mythical Paris of Parion. Paris was "identical" (aside from location and time period) to Perseus and Aphrodite (apple line), from the Parthenius river of the Heneti...one main river west of the Halys, the latter being where Cappadocia was situated that I say named the Capys Trojans (founders of Capua near Avellino / Naples).
The Capitano/Cattano surname, merged apparently with the Popoli (Apophis-Hebrew suspects) surname, is expected in this Cappadocia - Paphlagonian picture. For, Italian Romans were first found in the same place as Popoli's and Capua's/Caputo's, and then all three surnames use a Shield split in half horizontally with the gold color on top.
It's the Enfield Crest that uses the one footless martin in the colors of the same of Maine's Josephs! We are upon a treasure trove of evidence for the grim realities at Rennes-le-Chateau. Maine traces to the Maeander, right? It's likely that Endymion traces to the Una/Oeneus river because wine elements were in the Maenads of the Maeander. If that's correct, the Una was named by Heneti, and mythical Juno was a Heneti peoples along with Yonge's. Mythical Jupiter could then trace from Perseus in JOPPa to the Parthenius river of the Heneti. Porcius liners are expected, tentatively, from that latter line.
It should prove true that "Cato" belongs to "Hattusa" on the Halys river, a term that I trace to "Cadusii." Hattusa was represented by mythical Atti(s), son of Manes, the Maeonians. If this is correct, Cato's must be found merged with Cybele-like terms, such as Cabellio and Chivele. The Cabelees peoples who named Cybele (mother goddess of Phrygia) may have been from "Apollo." If all this is correct, and if Porcius Cato's surname was related to the makers of "Sadducee," I would expect a trace of "Hattusa / Cadusii" to "Sittacene" and "Kutaisi."
As Gaius Caetronianus is definitely a line from Keturah, it can be shown how his surname relates to Cato's, for the Keturah > Medan line became the Kodros > Medon line, rulers of Athens, and then the Attica area around Athens is said by same to be named after "Attis." Kodros had two symbols anciently, the fish (used by Catters/Cathers), and the boar, the latter being the Porcia-surname symbol. It was already established (before the Cato topic started) that the Kodros boar was the black one of Edom. Keturah's Hebrews were migrating with Esau's Hebrews to Athens.
As the martlet of the Enfield Crest is on a small gold Shield, while small gold Shields are used by SCUTE's, it's obvious that the Enfield Coat is a version of the Sewer/SHUTER Coat. The latter show eight fitchee crosslets in place of the eight footless martlets of the Enfields. The Sewer fitchees are in the colors of the same of Caepio-suspect Winchesters who in-turn use the Sword swords.
The Sewer leopard is "sejant," referring to a sitting position. I have found that most codes in heraldry are in English, and so "sitting" may itself have been code for Sittin-like surnames. In fact, the Sewer write-up uses both "sejant" and "sitting." Seatons/Sittens were Flemings who link to "flames," a symbol of Sagans. "Sejant" was suggested (years ago, not now for convenience) as code for Sagans/Segans, and it just so happens that Siward has traced to Segni's/Segurana's. I don't want to lose sight of one of the most-important entities of this picture, the Caetronianus line to the Catters/Cathers, first found in Berkshire, where Cato liners trace, and where Sagans/Segans are therefore expected. The Cathar cult of France was at MontSEGUR in Foix, which requires a re-mention of the Fes/Fay surname using a fox and the Porci/Porcini bend colors.
As some sort of treasure, not apparently recovered by the Vatican in its slaughter of Cathars at Montsegur, was taken away during the invasion, it's feasible, according to the heraldic findings here, that the safe-keeping of Caepio's gold bars had been overseen by the descendants of both Porcius Cato and Gauis Caetronianus.
The Flemings, who include to some degree the Sagan-related Julians/Gilians, are the owners of the "double tressure," and so it's important that the wolf design of Gillian-suspect Quillans is used also by German Flemings/Flamens. They ruled the world as Templarite Masons not on money they earned, but on treasures they stole. That's the Record that God is keeping in His Book for to justify Armageddon. The Israeli sluts, the ones who killed Jesus, were in bed with the Templars, because they were the prostitute herself.
The vair filling the Irish Fleming Shield may be that of the Quints because Scottish Flemings use a chevron in the red color of the Quint chevron.
The Decimus-suspect Thicks/Thecks, probably using a version of the Seward Coat, show a bird "SETTLING" in the reeds (Reeds use "copia"), and then the Settle Coat may be using, in Heslington colors, the three ermined lozenges of the Hounds, for the Hound lozenges are used by Thicks/Thecks. It was the Sewers who use a "sitting" code.
Lisborns, who use lozenges in Hound-lozenge colors and positioning, were first found in the same place as Flemish Julians/Gillians, and then French Julians use the same saltire as Tecks/Tess', thus tending to clinch a Julian link to Thicks/Thecks while equating the latter with Tecks/Tess' and Tease's.
Swedish Sewers and Swedish Persons both use a big white rose and nothing else, and while the Sewers use a stem on their rose, the Stems/Steins (Norfolk, where Siward traces) share gold-on-red leopard faces with Persons'/Parsons. I cannot find Swedish Persons with any other similar term.
Here is the Caesar Coat with two sets of rose colors, one being the same as the Swedish-Person rose. I'm going to suggest that Caesars are from "Caesarea" in Cappadocia, for the Capys Trojans were closely related to the Paris Trojans. Caesarea was earlier called, Mazaca, and then the same rose colors are used by the Mazza surname...which is using the same gold dragon upon a black bend as Pembroke's. Here's the clincher: the Mazza / Pembroke dragon, in the same colors, is used by Deaths/Darths, first found in the same place (Kent) as Caesars and Massins/Masons.
I tend to see "Pembroke" as a "Bamburgh" variation, but on that I am not sure. I do trace "Bam(berg)" to PAMphylians. As Pembroke's were first found in Avon, see the Avon/Even discussion shortly below as that surname seems related to queen Bebba of Bamburgh.
Pembroke's had been identified with the Benjamites merged with the Meshwesh household of Hyksos as they formed the Japodes. As the Hyksos traced to Cilicia (especially as Kizzuwatna and Adana), it's of note that Mazaca was to Cilicia's north. As Ceasars use the Shield-and-Chief color combination of Shepherds in colors reversed, it's notable that Hyksos are said to have been known as "Shepherd Kings." The axes in the Shepherd chief may be code for "Hyksos." One can glean that Shepherds are a Pepinid / Mens branch from Apophis/Apepi Hyksos, and the Shepherd Crest is much like the Quint Crest.
Here's on the Stars, who use the Settle lozenges in colors reversed: "A cat-a-mountain sejant guardant proper, on a green mount with a paw resting on a gold estoile." The cat-a-mountain of the Berks and the cat sejant of Croms can apply, especially as Stars and Berkshire's were both first found in Wiltshire. The "Vive" motto term of Stars suggests the Quint line, especially as Stars and Quints share paws. Later, we find that Poussins link to the Paw surname out of Wales, beside Wiltshire.
The Paws will link to "Powys," important because a bear paw (called a "gamb") in the Powys Coat is definitely linkable to Quints. Moreover, there is a bear in the Stormy Crest, important because they were first found in Wiltshire, where Poussins (will become suspect with Paws) are traced in their write-up. Stormys look like a branch of Sturs/Esturmys honored in the Chartres/Charter stork. Shouldn't Chartres' (Carians?) be an apple bloodline since Chartrans use gold apples?
It can be gleaned that the "mountain" code of Stars is for the same Mount/Mound/Mons bloodline as per the "mount" code of Stars. Heraldic mounts or mounds are almost-always green. Greens were first found in Kent (home of Numidians), and as such are suspect from Green Mountain in Cyrene. One Mountain surname, in the colors of the Greens, happens to use the six footless martlets (same colors) of the Apple's / Applebys.
Of some interest is the Caesarea location of Numidia, home of the Massena line, for Caesars were first found in Kent too, you see. But I say the Amazon namers of the Caesarea-Mazaca location evolved into the Meshwesh of Cyrene to which king Massena belonged. The Greens, who smack of "Cyrene," are expected to be related to the Ceasars, Mazza's and Pembroke's, therefore. As Clare's ruled Pembroke, note that Clare's and Tenier's (both suspect with Sinclairs) are very likely sharing related triple chevrons.
I have the sense that Mountains are from the line of Kanza, wife of Idris of Morocco. One clue is the sharing of the stag (same colors) by Greens and Kenneths. Another clue is the gold bend of Mountains, in the color of the Fes bend. Mountains were first found in the same place (Essex) as Quints (and Gore's), and then it was suspect recently that Quints may originate in the same place as "Quincy," in "Kanza."
The Kens' are in the colors of the Fes (and Porci/Porcini) bend. The Poussins may apply to these things if they were an r-less "Porcini." After all, while Poussins share three suns with Persons/Pearsons/Piersons, the Pierce's were first found smack beside the Kens' of Devon. Powers, who will link to Poussins as well as to the Gouy area of Picardy, were likewise first found in Devon, and they can link to Greens in that they use a stag half in green. Devon is where the Tenier-suspect Tanners and pineapple-using Pyne's were first found. The blue-apple riddle uses "Pousinn Teniers."
The Caepio lion (in Louvain-lion colors) is in the SADDLE Coat. The Saddle motto shares "Servire" with Gore's, for all that may mean, including a Saddle trace to Gouy of Picardy via the Gowers/Gore's. The Lille's, expected to be from Lille near the Artois capital, use a "Sedulo" motto term. As the Artois capital is Arras, it may trace to "Aures." In that case, the Here's / Hare's and similar others now tracing to Din Guaire may ultimately be related to "Aures"...home of the Gaetuli. Although virtually nothing is online concerning the Gaetuli, they seem to be very important to heraldry, especially as they link to killers of Christ.
The Gore fesse is in the colors of the Theck fesse, important because: 1) Servitium is suspect with the "Servilia," wife of Theck-suspect Decimus Silano; 2) Gore's trace to the river of Juno with Decimus' middle name, Junius. That's why it's very reliable to claim that "Silano" traces to "Quillan" with the white Gore / Gower wolf. Gore's, lest you forget, were first found in the same place as Quints.
Why are the Gowers from Gouy of Picardy? El-Gabal links? Gouy is smack beside St. QUENTin, and not very far from Lille. Quentins are listed with Quints, but there is a French Quentin Coat showing, with no write-up. It's three black eagles in the design and positioning of the Chill/Child eagles, and then Charlemagne's personal Arms was a black eagle. Jeffersons (trace to the Kupa river with Gore's) use their blue griffin with "a blue collar gemel and a LILY in the beak," which sounds as though Jefferson kin should be tracing to El-Gabal elements around Lille. Surnames reflecting "gemel" trace to the Camulodunum, later re-named, Colchester, after the Colapis name of the Kupa. It's also notable that the Jefferson saltire is colors reversed to the Lille cross.
After mentioning the Thicks above, in relation to "Decimus," I got side-tracked with many points. While it's suspect that Caseys use the Chill/Child Coat in colors reversed, Thicks/Thecks use the same red eagle design as Caseys, and then a daughter (Junia Tertia) of Servilia Caepionis and Decimus Silano married a Cassius surname! It really is tracing the Theck surname to "DECimus." And as Chapmans and Capone's were first found in the same place as Julians/Gillians, it is more certain now that they were lines from his affair with Servilia Caepionis.
If you're wondering why Merovingians are part of Rennes-le-Chateau lore, it should do with the Crom Coat being a version of the Chill/Child Coat. I have traced the Chill/Child Coat to that of Sellers, using grails and the white swan of Maine's Josephs. Croms use "A black cat salient guardant," possible code for the lines from Salian Franks. Sellers, though suspect earlier with "Sulla," may trace instead to "Silano" elements. The latter are more suspect with Cyllene > Cilnius elements than "Sulla." I can't see any way to identify Salyes Ligures with either one in particular. Salyes roots have always been a difficulty for me; I may have clinched their identify several updates ago, but I can't recall the conclusion.
A PASSANT code for POUSSINs is conspicuous. We saw that the Passan/Paston Coat is a replica of the Chill/Child Coat. Then, the Passe/Pascal Coat shows the Chill/Child eagles in colors reversed, and the black Levi lions, called "lions passant" ("passant" is a common heraldic term used at times for animals on three or four feet, but it may still be code for Poussin / Passe bloodlines).
The Passe eagles are called "volant," while the identical Chill/Child eagles are called "perched." They pick and choose codes as befits their kin. Chills/Childs obviously trace to elements of Perche (i.e. beside Maine and Blois), in the middle of the Merovingian empire, and their eagles are in the colors of the Safer / Piast eagles for a reason.
The Poussin bars are not officially called barry, but rather "three silver bars." That means it's a Drummond-suspect surname, and then the Damori's/Amori's use three bars in colors reversed to the Poussin bars. Plus, the Marina's use Drummond bars too, while Italian Marina's and Amore's use the same sort of "nebulee" symbol as Saviours/Savers. The Chamberlain Coat is a near-perfect match with the Spanish Marina Coat, perfectly expected in George Drummond (in Scotland in 1055) was involved in the Duncan > Malcolm line.
Damori'/Amori's (suspect from Amazons on the same river, Thermodon, as their THEMIScyra location) were first found in the same place (Oxfordshire) as Tiens/Thames.
"Knight's Tour" looks like code for two surnames because Merovingians honored Tour elements. The Knight surname uses the "engrailed border" seen earlier in Treasure-related surnames, and three red-on-white vertical bars, a symbol, in colors-reversed, in the later Arms of the Counts of Blois. If it disappears, see the image below. Knights were first found in the same place (Suffolk) as English Blois'.
http://www.tribwatch.com/coatBloisCounts.pngIt's clear now that the counts of Blois were using the Knight bars. Suffolk was also the location of a "Babegh / Babba" location. Moreover, it's where Belli-related Carpenters were first found who likewise use three vertical red-on-white bars, in the location that Babels use their blue-and-white vertical bars. Blois was a Belly deal, wasn't it? "Knight" may be a Cnut variation like the Naughtens. The Romney-branch Blois' apply. The Lomer/Lomber-branch of Romneys use a unicorn in Crest, the Cnut Crest symbol.
Scottish MacKnights are also "Naught." They use lions in the colors of the Gar / Carol lions, and of the Pierce unicorns. Their "volenti" motto term reminds me of the "volant" term as per the Passe/Pascal eagle. As I now know this eagle to be the Piast / Safer eagle, it makes sense that Cnut lines should be linking to the volant entity. There is no Volant / Volent surname coming up, however. (Volens use the Alan / Henry martlets.)
At the page below, type "Cnut" in the box to find that Danish Cnut's use "pot hangers." Then look at the English Pot Coat, like the Hald/Holt Coat, important because Cnut was a grandson, I now think, of Oda of HALDENsleben. As Pots were first found in Durham, location of the Wear river, compare the Oxford Coat to these and the Stout/Stow Coat.
http://www.free-coat-of-arms.com/Then keep in mind, for a few paragraphs only, that French Pots were first found in Berry, and ask why the blue-apple riddle is tracing to vikings, lovers of treasures who pile them up as high as their sins.
The Caiaphas Part of the RiddleI wonder if Alexander Graham Bell had a gold bar to get his career kicked off.
Recall the "bell ringer," with Captier surname, at Rennes-le-Chateau. That struck me as a code too, for there are bell shapes used sometimes between the arms of two lions facing one another. I think that shape is deliberate, and I think it appears between the two Carter lions. There is a bell pattern (so-called "vair") found in the white bars of the Arms of Blois above. Vair is found in the Quint Chief, and then the Arms of Blois above are in the two colors of the Quint Coat. The Caepio surname of Quintus jibes with the Captier bell ringer. I don't think there is a mystery here, just dirt that needs to be dug up and carried away to the dump. When the gold bars turn up in the dirt, the meek of the earth shall inherit them.
I've just recalled that Porters, suspect as Poitiers / Poitou elements (because French Porters were first found in Berry), use bells, and that the write-up traces them to bell ringers, basically. It says that Porters trace to a "doorman." BUT LOOK at the PAWter variation of Porters...that may connect with the lion paw in the Quint Crest.
I can understand a doorman at a church, but a bell ringer? Why was that phrase used? By what coincidence do Cnut's use pot hangers that may link to Porter / Poitou / Potter elements while Ringers, the surname, were first found in Nottinghamshire? The Ringer Crest even shows the Cnut symbol, the unicorn. As Cnut was a Mieszko while Bellamys were merged with Masseys, the fleur-de-lys in the Ringer Coat are likely those of Masseys...meaning that, yes, the bell in The Ringer Coat is code for Bells and related Bellamys. Why shouldn't it be that same for Mr. Captier, and the Porters?
But with this trace to Mieszko, with whom the Drake's operated, shouldn't the "captat muscas" motto phrase of Drake's trace to Mr. Captier's family?
The Porter write-up says that a porter of this line witnessed a gift to a church of Cragyn/Craigie, smacking of the Caracalla-suspect Craigs > Carricks. It works because Porters (colors reversed to the Kyle candles) were first found in Kyle, which is in Ayrshire, where Carricks were first found. Porters are in the colors of Kerricks; the latter are suspect at Prestwick of Ayrshire. I recall doing Porters...who turn out to be Potters looking like a colors-reversed version of Craigs. I'll come back to this.
The following discovery was just made while writing here, and inserted in the 2nd update of last month at the talk on the trace of Velis'/Vails and related Julians/Gillians to Guillestre:
The Prestwick surname uses the Glass-Crest mermaid (though in Kerrick colors), as well as the same motto as Velis'/Vails." It suggests that Velis'/Vails are a version of some Glass term, such as "Guellies" (rooster). The latter is using a version of the French Julian Coat (this is the first time that I've discovered it). Guellies' were first found in Dauphine, smack beside, or perhaps part of, Guillestre.It was very gratifying to learn that Julians can/do indeed trace to Guillestre. The Cregyn surname (hearts) was then checked, to find the black wolf of Savards/Salfords, supporting the trace of Severus > Caracalla to the Craig > Carrick line, and secondly, it supports the trace of Salfords to the Durance river of the Salyes, location of Guillestre. Thirdly, it locates Julian liners at Dauphine, and therefore possibly at St. Etienne's nest of vipers. I expect that where Caiaphas may have been a son of a child from the affair of Julius caesar with Servilia Caepio. See the heart in the Glaze Crest, and note the Pilate pheons in the Coat.
There is even a Doorman surname listed with the Durward surname that traces, likely, to the Durance river. The paw in the Doorman/Durward Crest is identical to the Quint paw. The leopard faces in the Doorman/Durward Coat are in the colors of the face of St. Quentin in the Arms of St. Quentin (Somme river, Picardy). Therefore, the doorman in quotation marks in the Porter write-up is code, isn't it? Yes, for the Bellamy crescent is in the colors of the DURham crescent.
Now be patient and wait for another doorman code, checking out how it links directly to the Craigs honored by doorman-loving Porters. We start with Gouy in the Aisne part of Picardy, and we'll make a few points along the way. The Arms of Aisne show diagonal bars in the colors of the same of the Guerra Coat. Aisne is the location of one Guise location, and then Guido's come up as "Guis." This possibility, that Guido-Guerra elements trace to Aisne, is new to me, a very welcome key.
Like the French Quentins, from San Quentin of Aisne, I assume, the Aisne surname has a page with Coat showing, but no write-up. Hmm. The Aisne Coat shows three hearts in the colors of the Wager hearts. What could that mean? It's the Vere-line Varni, right?
There is also a Fere location (uses vair fur) in Aisne, to be expected with a Guido-Guerra marriage to Montferrat. Wagers trace well to Wagrians on the Warnow river of the Varni. Asners (blue Here wings), looked up only now as per "Aisne," use horseshoes, symbol or Ferrari's and Ferrers. English Ferrers (unicorn) were from Longueville, smacking of Langhe at Montferrat.
There is a Schwerin location at / near the land of Wagrians (inland from Rostock) that was traced to the Schere/Scherf Coat using a vertically-split Shield of the Wilkins, important now because Wilkins share the green wyvern with Guerra's. Wilkins are suspect with Walkers (Yorkshire) who are-in-turn suspect with Wagers (Yorkshire). The point is, the horizontally-split Schwerin Coat is colors reversed from the same of the Capitano/Cattano and Popoli Coats. Couldn't Mr. Captier, the bell ringer, be from Capitano's?
As Rumigny is at the Aisne border just south of La Capelle, it's not likely coincidental that the Asner bend is in the colors of the Romney bend. We saw earlier that the red scallops of the Romneys likely trace to the same of the Savona's, important because the Savena river is at Bologna, where Guido Guerra's hailed.
There is a canton of La Capelle in Aisne. As nothing is known of St. Quentin, the man, he is likely sheer myth code to disguise the real Quint line that named the Quentin location. Wasn't it suspect over and over that Quintus Caepio was a Capelli liner? Doesn't Montferrat trace to Ferrara, where the Capelli's/Capelle's were first found? Didn't I trace the Israeli priesthood from Ferrara to the Varni? Smack beside La Capelle there is a Fourmies location that may have been named by the same that named Forum Allieni.
The Arms of Fourmies shows bendy (diagonal bars) in Alan-fesse colors. These particular bendy belong to Avesnes, but then the Guerra Coat uses bendy too. The fesse bars in the Arms of Fourmies, said in the description to be of Croy, may be those of Poussins. You can red this in the description for the Arms. Fourmies in the arrondissment of Avesnes-sur-Helpe, and then the Help Coat shows the hourglass-like Shield, used by Guido's/Guis' too. The fitchees in the Help Coat are gold, the color of the Quint-Crest fitchee, which may now suggest that: 1) Quints trace fundamentally to Saint Quentin, and, 2) Quints were related to the Croys that had something to do with the neighboring Roets...who had traced solidly to Caetronianus.
The Helps were first found in Gloucestershire, beside Avon, which tends to assure that Helps were from Helpe at the Fourmies theater. That is for me a good argument in support of my claim that Guido-Guerra elements were from Forum Allieni, but to now find very good cause for a Guido-Guerra trace even to neighboring Aisne is terrific.
As Fourmies is beside Avesnes (ruled by Croys), the anchor in the Aves Crest can be explained where Greys/Croys use the anchor theme too. As I had some reason for tracing Formans to Forum Allieni, it's notable that Formans use anchors as well as a green dragon. I don't think that's coincidental along with the similarity between "Forman" and "Fourmies." The Grey/Croy lion (in the colors of the Piast eagle) may be that of Garlands and Gars/Gearys, remember, because "Grey" and "Geary" may be related terms. . The "fast" motto term of Greys can be for the all-seeing-eye Witkowo location.
The Aves Coat is the one with garbs in Joseph-garb colors, and then Drake's expected in Aisne along with Guerra elements were first found in the same place as garb-using Josephs and Bidens/Buttons. The latter share the very same "chapeau" as used by Capelli's/Capelle's. That's not coincidental, for La Capelle is smack beside Fourmies. The Fourmies surname, in Plantagenet colors, was first found in Anjou, and is probably using a version of the red Plantagenet stag. The latter surname was first found in the same place (London) as Capets/Capes'.
For the past two updates, Capelli-suspect Cabellio at the Durance river was traced to Chivele elements in the Hesdin part of Artois. I made a mistake when reading the Kevel write-up; it's the surname that is traced to Hesdin, not their Chivele location in Wiltshire. Just the same, the trace of Cabellio/Cavaillon (beside Avignon) to the Kevel family at Hesdin, and nearby Avion, stands, for while Avion traces to "Avennio/Avignon," there is an Avon county beside Wiltshire. Therefore, the Avignon trace to Avion and Avon appears to take the namers of Cabellio to La Capelle as well as to the Kevel surname of that general area that ended up in Chivele, beside Avon.
The Shots/Shute's were likewise first found in Wiltshire, and they use a "guerre" motto, suggesting the possibility that Guerra elements were at or around Hesdin and/or Avion. Hesdin is on a Canche river, smacking of the Cuinchy location of Quincys, and then the Keeble's, suspect with Kevels, use a chevron on Quint-chevron colors...which may suggest that all of the above trace to San Quentin.
The Durance is suspect with the Doorman/Durward surname, and then: the big city in Avon is Bristol, while the Bristol surname has a motto term, "DORMIENtebus." As that seems to be code loosely for Porters, note that English Porters were likewise first found in Hampshire. The Bristol Coat is a black fesse with three crescents upon it, all on an ermined, white Shield, all virtually the same as per the Craig Coat.
The "Vive" motto term of Craigs is suspect as code for Quints in Fife, and then the Doormans/Durwards (suspect as using a version of the Arms of Saint Quentin) were first found in Fife. The Doormans are traced "office of door-ward to the king" (laughable?) of the Lundons of fife, which, if you recall, were the Lundys of Leven elements suspect with the Capets/Capes', first found in London. I didn't know Fife had kings with door-wards to boot. Doormans/Durwards are the ones using the Quint paw design, and Doormans trace definitely, along with Roets, to Boofima.
Back to the Cregyns of the Porter write-up. We have seen the wolf design plenty that's in the Cregyn Coat. One was at the Quillan/Killen Coat. The Cregyn hearts are very welcome for supporting the idea that Douglas'/Duglass' are to be understood as, D'Glass, and so it's true after all that Douglas' are a basic Julian line out of Guillestre. That tends to link Guillestre to Quillan. We just need to find the line from Julius' mistress, Caepionis, in Scotland. Under what craggy rock do you think it's hiding?
I would suggest that Douglas' in the Ayrshire region gave Cregyns their hearts from a Herod line of Hardy, and then Craigs got the Herod-Archelaus symbol, plumes out of a helmet. Scottish Cregyns/Craigie's (crescents) use "vivo" in their motto while Craigs (crescents) use "Vive et vivas."
Porters/PAWters are in Potter colors, and Potters use the Craig Shield in colors reversed. Isn't Harry Potter an Illuminati symbol? Potters and Porters were both first found in the same place (Hampshire) as Botters/Bodins and Buttons/Bidens, meaning that Potters and Porters can link to the Capelli's/Capelle's along with Bidens. Craigs thus trace to Italian Botters, who use a bend in the colors of the bend that was the earlier Arms of the Counts of Blois...which bend we saw with Asners. There is thus a link between Blois and Aisne elements, including the Romneys from Rumigny. The Arms of Aisne use such a bend, like that of Champagne.
There is a Gregyn surname (with a "g") showing properly as "GORMley," a term said to mean, "blue." I have no idea why Gregyn is one of its variations, but suggests a Gorm link to Cregys / Craigs / Carricks. Gormleys use only the three footless martins (same colors) of French Henrys, though Henrys throw in a BLUE fesse. It means that we are talking Alans again in the Gregyn/Gormley surname, for which reason I'll trace to Gorm, father of Blatand Bluetooth. See how the Tooth Coat may be a version of the English Blois Coat, and if there is a connection, it tends to unveil the "bluetooth" code as a Gorm/Blue link to Blois' that took on a Tooth variation.
Why do Blate's share the black talbot with Carricks? As Henrys turned into English Josephs, note that German Blate's share the swan once showing for French Josephs. Blatant was a Joseph liner, wasn't he? His name does not mean Bla Dent = blue tooth, but is a version of a Blate term in relation to a Blois entity.
Porters would not have been a topic here had it not been for the bell ringer at Rennes-le-Chateau. The Porter bells are officially "church bells," and then the Church Coat uses the three black greyhound heads of Luchs/Luke's, and a bend in the colors of the Craig bend (which tends to clinch the Porter merger with Church's). I wonder what Church's were truly named after. Luchs make them look like a Caracalla line, and "Church" even resembles "Craig / Carrick." Church's were first found in the same place (Somerset) as Treasure's/Thrashers and Borders, wherefore, might "Border" have been a "Porter" variation?
The Birds come up as "Burd," and they share red footless martlets with the Gregyns/Gormleys, but in the two colors of the same of French Alans. That's a good argument for equating Porters with Borders. Burds also share a red fesse with English Alans. Bords use footless martins too. This paragraph is an insert coming immediately above the paragraph below mentioning Luxembourg. After saying the above, the Burtons were found to use a "lux" motto term. I rarely mention Luxembourg. The Lux/Luchs/Lukart surname uses the Mieske bull head in the same colors. The Lux write-up takes us for fools, tracing to someone with keen eyesight, a code likely for the all-seeing-eye cult at Witkowo. This may be the first strong hint that Caracalla lines trace to Mieszko's. It may be indicating that Lusatia/Luzica was named by the Lys / Luce bloodline, in which case I would trace Lusignan and Luxembourg to the same. The Lux's are said to be named after a lynx (laughable), and then the Link Coat uses a lion in colors reversed to the Lusignan lion, and holding a besant, an expectation for a Caracalla line. The Arms of Luxembourg appear to use the Lusignan lion too. Luxembourg is just north of Metz, which is what Pepin of Landen married who had been from Bebba.
Again, to trace queen Bebba back in time, take it through the Melusine mermaid that Babe's/Babels use, to Lusignan, suspect with the Luce / Lys line of Caracalla. The Arms of Lusignan are like those of LUXembourg, both using blue-and-white horizontal bars. Lusignan is about 100 miles from Blois, close enough for marital mergers in the game of war. "The Lusignan family originated in Poitou near Lusignan in western France in the early 10th century...In the late 12th century, through marriage and inheritance, a cadet branch of the family came to control the Kingdoms of Jerusalem and of Cyprus..." Who were these peoples from, that they should rule Jerusalem?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lusignan_dynastyAs the peoples of Lusignan were from Poitiers, they appear to be of the Porters, and therefore of the Potters and Botters and therefore involve the Capelli-rooted Bidens/Buttons. The answer is as simple as that.
The Poitiers surname is traced incorrectly to "pot." The cross style used by Poitiers is that in the Seagram Crest, but Role's use it too on a Shield with the three vertical bars of the Blois counts and/or the Knights...or even the Garlands. Seagrams are the ones using the Coat version of Gars/Gearys, both with blue lions suspect with Caiaphas. And Seagrams appear to derive in "Segramnus," the patriarch of Capetians. That's how we can make sense of Poitiers elements ruling Jerusalem.
With a Poitiers link to Role's (originate a few miles from Mons, itself a little north of Aisne), we could suspect that the Roet-of-Role entity had something to do with Luxembourg. Roets and their allies were not far from Luxembourg, and then the Lux-using Burtons share an oak tree with Roets. Roets (same place as Treasure's and Borders) had already traced to Bordeaux, thus tending to clinch a Burton link to Bordeaux.
The Lux lion is in the colors of the Garland lion, and so the Guerra line suspect in Aisne seems to be confirmed where Gars and Garlands were already suspect as Guerra lines. The Lux lion holds a besant, symbol of the English Role's, first found in Yorkshire, where I think Caracalla lines of the Luce / Lacy kind originate...before going to the Lys valley i.e. near the Role / Roet theater.
Again, the Seager-related Sawyers are the ones using a Caracalla-suspect "Cherches" motto term, and Church's use the black-greyhound design of Luchs/Luke's, a branch, probably, of Luxembourg-suspect Lux's/Luchs'. But "Church" is also suspect with the Cregyn lines of Porters. The Church's share a black-on-white fesse with Craigs, but note how the string of Luch/Luke mascles are acting as the Church fesse, for the white-ermined Shield of Luch's is used by Craigs. The Role fesse is in the colors of the Craig-related Bristol fesse, important because Bristol is beside Somerset, where Roet's and Church's were first found.
Bristol is beside Bath, where the Bath and Wells elements in the Biden/Button write-up trace, wherefore we can expect the Capelli/Capelle bloodline from La Capelle to be at the Bath / Somerset / Bristol area. The bendy of the Guerra Coat was found in the Arms of Fourmies, a location 10 or less miles from La Capelle.
It looks like we have killed more than one Burd with one black stone.
Whom do we thing the Evans were? A nice English family? The Evan Coat comes up as "Avon/Aven," very traceable to "Avennio/Avignon" and "Avion." In case you missed it in the last update, here is why La Capelle should trace to Wiltshire and neighboring Bristol:
However, the Kevel surname is traced in its write-up to Chivele, in Wiltshire. However, the surname is said to be from the same area of France (Pas-de-Calais) as the Cuinchy location (not far at all from Mons of Hainaut). Check out the AVION location near Lievin on the map of Pas-de-Calais, for Cuinchy is five miles east of Bethune and therefore very near Lievin. The Cavaillon location is near Avignon = AVENnio!The Bethune surname (otter) is said to be from the Bethune location above. The mascles of the Bethune Coat should link to the Quincy mascles, and the Bethune fesse is in the colors of the same of Lux-using Burtons. The possibility is that Bidens/Buttons and Baths are from "Bethune." The talbot dog positioning of Burtons is that of the Pape/PAPENBURG talbots, wherefore, as the Lux surname suspect in the "lux" motto term of Burtons gets the Mieske bull, I would trace this Pape/Papenburg surname to mythical Popiel at Goplo. It's the same thing as saying that lines from queen Bebba's Bebbanburgs go through Pepin of Landen to Popiel...and meanwhile merge with Metz on the southern environs of Luxembourg, probably bringing the namers of Luxemburg to "LUZika/Lusatia."
To this it must be added that I've seen and claimed for years that mythical Melusine of Lusignan was a founder also of Lusatia, and that her mother (Pressina) represented Prussia (beside Lusatia), where Mieske's were first found. This Melusine, we must not forget, is used by Babels too, thus assuring that Babels were Bebbanburgs.
It can be construed that the Pape/Papenburg Coat is a version of the Luch/Luke, Church and Craig Coats (all Bristol kin), which again traces Caracalla elements to Goplo.
It can't be coincidental that the Evan/Avon write-up traces to "Lefan," like "Lievin" location beside Bethune. This is a Levi line, is it not? It is suspect at Avon, where Bristol is situated, beside Bath, thus tending to clinch the trace to Capelli-related Bidens/Buttons to "Bethune" and la Capelle. Is that not enlightening, since we just saw kin of the Bristols trace to Papenburgs?
Bebbans are listed with Bevans said to be from "Evan," but I think it's very apparent that this was an Avon/Evan line related to PAPENburgs. Don't you? Consider a "Leven > L'Evan > Evan" evolution of terms that can be expected from "Lieven" at Bethune. In a Catholic world, Jews in hot spots hid their names by changing them. It appears very much that the Bebba > Pepin line was at Lieven, and that the two entities shared terms when merging.
I thought that "Babel" should trace to "PAPHLagonia." If correct, Babels are suspect as apple liners. Note that English Babels share a gate with Porters, and that the Gate surname uses the same lion (colors included) as the Avons/Evans. Levens, who share footless martins with Apples and Saddocks / Chadocks / Chadwicks, are also "Living," and then Livingstons use the double tressure now tracing a green dragon in the Treasure surname. Is it possible that "Blois" was a Babelois entity, so to speak? The Babels do use vertical bars, after all, as did the counts of Blois. Plus, the Babel bars are in BLUE.
Chadocks use the same cross design as, and in colors reversed from, that of Poitiers. It is likely that Chadocks and Chadwicks relate to Chads using the "potent" Jerusalem cross that can trace to "Poitiers" elements. You see, we're not talking Evans here, but Levites who wanted their Jerusalem back.
At the bottom of the Lusignan page, you can see the gold potent cross that was the Templar flag of Jerusalem. What do we think "POTent" derived in? I've shown the potent cross in Sadducee-suspect lines of Skits, Scheds, and Chads, but I have yet to find a gold potent cross.
The Arms of Poitiers uses besants on black, symbol of the PUTENTs/Puttons/Putochs! This is new to me. It means that the flag of Templar Jerusalem, which many trace to Godfrey de Bouillon, is of Poitier lines. And the Putten besants are on a bend in colors reversed to the Potter fesse. Here is the Flemish Padyn surname (in Putent/Putoch colors) that comes up as "Putin" and "Patent."
For the record, the Arms of Vienne and the Arms of the Poitiers' counts use FIVE castles in colors reversed to Quints. The Quint chevron is then used (with Ferrer-suspect horseshoes) in the Poch Coat, a surname that was looked up as per a Poix location in Picardy. Living-related Powers originate from Poix. We can ask whether "Putoch" is a play on, or version of, "Poix / Poch."
Poix is in southern Picardy and therefore close to Ile-de-France, where Levi's and Lys' were first found. You are going to see why Poussins trace to Pavia, where the Laevi lived. You will also see why Poussins should be a branch of Powers at Poix, also called "Pois." We are trampling all over the Caiaphas bloodline here that wanted Jerusalem back.
Pochs are said to be owners of the manor of Barkby, the early owner of which was, as the write-up goes on to say, a Walter Power. The idea earlier that "Poussin" may be a version of "Porcia" plays well with BARKby. Moreover. Porcia liners seemed to trace well to Berkshire, and then Barks are also Berks. Barks/Berks use "larks," and then the Lark pellets have footless martlets in the colors of the same of Livings/Levins, the ones using the Shield-and-Chief color combination (dancetty border included) of the Powers.
As it will appear that "Poussin" should trace to "Pavia," I would suggest that "Poussin" is not a version of "Porcia," but that Poussins had merger with Porcia lines, especially the Berks of Berkshire, where Poussins were first found. The Shield-and-Chief color combination of the Powers and Livings/Levins is probably that of Role's and Tanners too, thus lumping Levi's in with the "Pousinn Teniers" code. This looks like an alliance between Chappes (share the Tanner moor heads) elements on the Tanaro with Laevi in Pavia.
When Rollo married Poppa of Valois, the Valois area was that in north Paris (where Porcia lines trace when I trace them to Percivals), an area virtually synonymous with Ile-de-France. The Bebba > Pepin line was therefore in Ile-de-France by the time of Rollo's acquisition of Normandy in 912. Mieszko wasn't quite born yet. We can imagine that this Pepin line at Poppa in Ile-de-France ended up at Goplo as the Popiel entity, but for this idea, recall the Popoli's using the Shield of Capitano's/CATTano's, for Porcia lines expect Cato elements too. This idea makes the Chappes'/Chapats (Ile-de-France) suspect with Capitano's in Ile-de-France.
Then, while Pepoli's (with an 'e') of Bologna use a Shield filled with black-and-white checks, a Shield filled with black-and-white lozengy is used by English Patents. These Patents use the motto of Romney-merged Pullens (suspect with the Pollock-Blois merger). Scottish Patents share the Murena tower with Capitano's/Cattano's and Chatans.
By what coincidence are we compelled to trace Potters to Italian Botters/Bottins using a bend in the colors of the counts of Blois? Then, by what further coincidence were Botters first found in Lucca, what we could expect the Lucius bloodline to be named after? We saw a few cats sitting in "sejant" fashion, but see another in the Italian Lucca Coat. It's described as "a gold cat sejant on green ground." We saw this them trace to Berkshire, and then the Lusks/Luss', who were looked up only for seeking surnames after "LUSIGnan," were first found in Berkshire.
English Botters showed (until recently) a dark-brown eagle on gold, facing left, perhaps link-able to the eagles of the Luciano's, a Luce-important topic because Italian Luciano's share white-on-red fish with Luce's. The Botter eagle is now red-on-gold, Quint colors, but also in the colors of the boar (facing left) of the Lusk/Luss Coat. It's colors reversed from the boar of Bards (green Leslie griffin) because Bards are suspect as from Bartholomew, founder of Leslie's of Scotland. The same green griffin head is in the English Patent Crest. It looks like Caracalla's Luce's / Lacys founded Leslie's too.
If Lusks are in honor of Lusignan, this is tending to reveal that Leslie's (in Lusignan colors) named Lusignan. Interestingly, the Bard motto is "Dominus fecit," having a term that traced well to Julia Domna in one surname, and so why not also in this surname?
As some debatable evidence that Leslie's named Lusignan, follow the Poitvin blue Jay to the Jay surname (in Poitier colors) said to be from an early "Gai," and from that idea see the buckles of the Guy's, a Leslie symbol too. In other words, if Leslie's founded / named Lusignan, they would be expected in a merger with Poitiers elements, and here we are seeing some possible Leslie relationship with Poitvins, first found in Poitou. The blue Jay griffin, which is the Jefferson griffin, has a head in the design of the Leslie griffin head.
I'll repeat that I had found, but lost the evidence for it, some Leslie's or proto-Leslie's in Padua/Padova, beside Venice, important now because "PoitVIN/PotVAN is suspect as a Pot merger with Venice elements. The Poitvin write-up says that the marsh land of Poitiers was called the "Green Venice." That could account for the green Leslie griffin. Interestingly, the Italian Botters were likely the Butteri cattle herders who worked the marshes south of Rome. Can we suppose that "Padova" has to do with "Poitv(an)"?
The Bebbans were first found in the same place (Herefordshire) as Jays (and Jeffersons), and then the Bebban Coat is a bird (dove) in the same position, and on a blue Shield, as the same of the Poitvin Coat. Then, the Bebban Crest is the brown eagle that was used by English Botters, except that the Bebban eagle is about to take flight. BUT LOOK: the Bebban surname is shown as BeVAN/BeeVIN. Where have we seen that before? It looks like Poitvins/Potvans can definitely relate.
This is excellent because I traced Babenbergs, Pepins and Babels to "PAPHLagonia," or, more specifically, to the Paphlagonian HENETI, the known founders of the Veneti, namers of Venice! This explains why "Bebban" is listed with a surname that now appears to honor their Veneti roots. Lake Van was in Armenia, and so behold: "The Chateau de Lusignan...was the seat of the Lusignan family, Poitvin Marcher Lords, who distinguished themselves in the First Crusade and held the crowns of two Crusader kingdoms, the Kingdom of Jerusalem and the Kingdom of Cyprus, and even claimed the title King of Armenia."
I traced Paphlagonians further back to king Apophis / Apepi of the Hyksos, and figured that Paphlagonians were related to "Paphos," a city on...Cyprus! It looks like the Veneti elements at Lusignan and Poitiers were simply interested in their old Cyprian and Armenian lands. It is very predictable that the Nairi at Lake Van are involved at Poitiers, other wise called the BIAini ("ini" is the suffix). Look and see that the Bebban variations reflect "Bia."
I trace Merovingians specifically to "Padova," because I trace them to Bedewe," a location now in Sudan that was also "Merowe." It appears that Poitvins, and therefore Poitiers, were from this line of Bedewe-ians.
The above works so well that I'm going to reject the Bebban/Bevan write-up as it traces to the idea of "ap-Evan," as though the surname derived in Evan. I'm going to reject it even though the Evens surname was first found in the same place as the Bebbans/Bevans, and even though they are in the same colors. I'm going to instead view "Bevan" as a Bebban line from Paphlagonians / Veneti, while "Evan" came as a Leven / Levin branch in a merger with Bebbans. Again, the Evan lion is the round-tailed one used by Gate's (same colors), and then the English Babel Crest is "a gold gate" while the Porter Crest uses another gate.
Just think about that, for it tends to verify that Bebbans were Babels but also tracing with Jays to Leslie's expected in Poitiers. And then, while it's known that mythical Melusine is a symbol for Lusignan, German Babels/Bebe's use her! Excellent. There is even a Jewish Babel surname, but there's no Coat nor write-up.
Saddocks were first found in the same place -- Sussex -- as Deins who likewise (as with Gate's and Avons) use the round-tailed lion. Poitiers use the same rare cross (I see few of them), in colors reversed, to the one used in the Chaddock Coat, and then while the latter use a potent cross, Putents/Putochs were likewise first found in Sussex.
Capetian-suspect Seagrams use the same rare cross, while the white martlets used by Levens and Saddocks / Chadocks are used by Seagram-related Sawyers.
But there is more, for Chadwicks, likewise using white martlets, show a "candore" motto term that must be for the Candys because the latter show only small saltires in the colors of the small Poitiers crosses. Candys were first found in the Suffolk location of Babegh / Babba. Candys, in the colors of the Suffolk Blois', are a branch of Candida's, first found in the same place (Naples) as Caputi's and Capetano-related Popoli's who should trace to Bebba. The lion of Caputi's (Capua's) wears the same crown as is now showing in the Spanish Capet/Cepedons Coat.
LOOK! While the Porter-suspect Borders show no Coat, the Bords/Boards use the same eight, white footless martlets around a small white Shield! French Bords (look like Stouts) were first found in the same place (Forez) as Capote's, while the Forez surname was first found in the same place (Savoy) as the house of Candida!!! Forez may have included the land and/or peoples of Avignon now tracing to the Bebban/Bevan / Evan/Avon surname. The Bord Shield is split in the two colors of the split Gate Shield.
To help prove that Bords were Borders, their small Shield is called "an orle of silver," and "orle" was the term used for the border-like small Shield of Rutherfords. The Bird motto is then translated, "Pierce," which must be code for the Pierce's (Somerset, as with Treasure's and Borders) who go back to the Perche area, beside Orleans, where the orle's go to. The Rutherford martin is found in the Chaddock Crest, and so it would appear that the three black-on-white martins in the Rutherford Chief are the same of the Living/Levin Chief.
Most of the small Shields seen above are called, IneSCUTcheon," part-code, I think, for Orell-related Inis', and part-code for Scute's using small Shields themselves. It was the Scute's who traced to the Placentia area to potent-using Skits and Scheds, in an alliance with Sadducee elements there. The potent-using Chad and Sched Coats use split into the two colors of the Arms of Sion, where Sadducee-suspect Seatons/Sittens trace, and then Seatons too use the double tressure. They were first found in the same place as tressure-Livingstons. Then, the Settle write-up speaks on a Roger le Poitvan in the land of Settle (Lancashire)! That's where Chadocks were first found.
The Chads and Scheds should be using the patee crosses of the Tosts because Tosts and Scheds were both first found in Yorkshire. If you recall, there was a quasi-mythical Skagul Toste character that should link to the Scoots/Skugals.
The Scute Coat (heavily Siward and Sewer suspects) uses a so-called "deer," and then the Deer Coat shows a six-section Coat in colors reversed to the same of Storys, who cropped up earlier as per the stork in the Chartres Crest. The Deers must be using a six-section Coat linking to the same of Mieszko-related Wheelwrights, for Chartres' are also "Charter," suggesting a branch of wheel-using Carters (Heslington suspects), first found in the same entity (Hampshire) as Story-related Sturs...from Manche, home of Masseys.
The two Carter lions are in the colors of the Sforza lions, probably due to the trace of de Quincy of Winchester to the "quince" held by the Sforza lion. Carters were first found in Winchester, you see, and are thus suspect with the Quintus-Caepio line to Quincys, and then the Sforza lion is undoubtedly the Pharisee-suspect Ferrari lion, of the line out of Forum Allieni in a merger with Skits, Scute's, and Scheds, you see.
The interesting thing is that while the Skits, etc., had traced to Trypillians of the Ukraine so as to make the Scute crane suspect as code for Ukrainians at L'viv, the Scute crane, with the Sewer rose in it's beak, is tracing hard to the crane theme of mythical Esus, indicating the possibility that Esus got his crane symbol from Trypillians / Ukrainians. Or, the two cranes may be unrelated.
The hourglass Shield of Skits (traceable to the hourglass goddess of Trypillians) is found in the Notten Coat, and then the Notten Crest is a dear (no antlers, same as the Scute deer). The Nottens, from the Mieszko > Swietoslawa line of Siward, are in the colors of the Deers. L'viv is near the Polish border, and, probably, the founders of Poland had been in the L'viv area to begin with.
In a clever piece of work, the Notten deer is called a "hind" in honor of Hinds using lozenges in the colors of the Brix lozenges, important because the Notten stars are in the colors of the German Brix stars (pierced) (and of the pierced stars of Goplo-based Atkins).
We have come across many upright red lions. Which of them are of the Lusignan red lion? There's one in the Crest of Pictone-suspect Pictons. The Picton Coat gives me the impression of being a cross between the MacKnight/Night lion and of the ermined Cnut Shield, important because the Knight bars trace to the counts of Blois. As Danish Cnut's are the ones using "pot hangers" (possibly part-code for Angers, near Lusignan), they trace to Potters and Botters, and then the Butteri cattle ranchers were "cowboys," important because Knights use a "a spur on a red canton." Potters and Botters were, along with Pictones, Poitou elements, right? From Wikipedia's Pictone article: "[Pictones] gave their name to the Roman appellation of Poitiers - Limonum Pictonum / Pictavi, as well as to the modern region of Poitou."
If we go back to the Pock surname strongly suspect (I have no doubt) with Poix/Pois of Picardy, we note that the surname is also "Pochen" and similar variations trace-able, perhaps, to "Picenum," south of Padova. It's feasible that the Picenum of empress Justine -- traced to Pollocks -- had merged with Poitvin elements in Padova, thus explaining a Pois location coming from that merger. Pictones may have been Picenum elements, you see, and then Pollocks (from Pula, across the waters from Picenum) are also "Pooke/Poak," much like "Poch." You will see below that Powers of Pois link hard to the Peacock sept of Pollocks.
Pepin le PewIt hasn't come to mind until now that "canton" (small square) could be code for "Canute" elements. It has therefore not come to mind until now that Candys, suspect with the Cantii founders of Kent, could be Canute elements. This is not necessarily a contradiction my trace of Cheneys to king "Khyan" of the Hyksos, for there is a Chanut/Chenue surname that I trace to him, the Hyksos pharaoh who ruled immediately before Apophis. I identified "Khyan" with mythical "Ixion," father of the Centaurs (= horse-accustomed peoples like, for example, the Butteri). A branch of Cantii may have named Canute. It may suggest that his father, Forkbeard, we a Cantii liner, though I have no heraldic evidence or this at this time.
In previous works, I traced the Picton lion to that of the Trevors, the Traby-related Tudors first found in the same place (Herefordshire) as Fullers > Pollocks. I would suggest that the PEACock sept of Pollocks is a PICton branch from Justine of PICENum, for the "just" motto term of Peacocks gives that away. Justine was related to Trabys of Vilnius, a thing that was made plain recently. But I had also traced Pollocks independently to Valentinian I, Justine's husband, an idea that was corroborated by the white-on-red bend of Valents (in the colors of the Pollock bend). It suggests that the Jay bend and Poitiers fesse applies to a Valentinian line.
If it was correct to trace the Stocks to "Astika" of Vilnius," it's interesting that "Sto cado" is used by Forkers, while "fork" is used by Canute-suspect CUNNinghams. It was recently when I showed that Quincy-suspect Kens' could trace to "Kanza" along with "Kent. / Kenneth." Kents were first found in Berkshire, where Cato elements have traced. It just so happens that Kanza and her husband is where the Porcius-Cato line had traced, which can explain "Sto CADO" as a double code, one for Cato lines and one for Stocks. The Canns/Caens, first found in the same area as kens', show the five Traby ostrich feathers. There is reason in the Cann/Caen Coat (in Chanut and Chatan) colors) and write up to trace the surname to Boofima and Mauritanian elements. Plus, the Chanuts are suspect with the Chaine's/Chenays/CHESnys who are in turn suspect with the Cnut-suspect "Knight's Tour" code. The Moratin/Murena tower (Chatan symbol) is used by Tours and Towers so that it can trace to Tuareg Berbers of the Mauritanians.
Valents share the squirrel with Heslingtons, and this is a symbol of the Squire's smacking of the Sire's who show honor for the Traby-Justine merger. As Squire's are also "Square," the surname can link closely to Cnut if the "canton" name of the heraldic square is code for his name. As Pollocks are said to trace to king Clovis I, the spur of the Close/Clovse Coat (used also by Knights) should be considered as a link factor to the Cnut-suspect Knights. It's probably not coincidental that the Peacock motto uses "fear NOT," suggesting Siward-related Cnut /Notting elements on the Wear river.
It's a little confusing to find Cnut elements tracing to Pictones at the Poitiers / Lusignan family, but perhaps the solution is as per a long-standing Mieszko merger with Picenum. The Maschi's in the Picenum theater use pine CONE's, code for the Conte's and therefore for Conteville marriage to "the tanner's" daughter.
Why were Gaetuli-suspect Gate's working into the Lusignan picture? Is it evidence that Luce's did live in Lusignan or proto-Lusignan? Don't Lacy's use a "fret KNOT"? Don't Canns/Caens use a "fretty" Shield. As the Geddes-related Pike's looked like they could be a Picenum line, it's very notable that Pictones were in the Poitou theater. I had traced Khyan's alternative name, "APACHNas," to "PICENum / PICEN(t)i," allowing the Tost patees to be those of the Peks/Packs too, and then the Piceni were given a woodPECKER symbol. The Moor head in the Crest of Packers (Peacock colors) gives the impression of being from the Tanner Moor head in particular, for reasons below. A Pochin-like variation brought up the Scottish Pike's/Pickens.
As it's expected to see Apophis-based Pepins in this picture, the lines from the Exodus pharaoh (Apachnas) are tracing to Bebba Bernicians. Therefore, keep watch for the bear's paw in the Peacock - Paw discussion.
We find another rose-on-stem (Sewer suspects) in the mouth of the peacock in the Peas/Peacock Crest. In the Coat, there are black mascles (on besants), the color of the Luch/Luke mascles (i.e. jibes with a Porter church-bell link to Church's who share greyhounds with Luchs). The Peas were looked up due to the "peascods" used by Cullis' (look like they could be a Cavaillon family), who were themselves looked up as per the portcullis gate of Porters. I know what this is and how it worked.
The black Peacock mascle, by the way, on a besant, is reflective of the besants on black in the Arms of Poitiers. Therefore, the white-on-red fesse of Peacocks could be immediately that of Poitiers. As that fesse linked naturally with the same-colored bend of Jay's, it could also be the Jewish Pollock bend because Peacocks are a Pollock sept. This is quite a good argument, for Fullers (in Jay colors), the root of Pollocks in my opinion, were first found in the same place (Herefordshire) as Jays! Then, if that's correct, it is very revealing all-the-more as per the "Pousinn Tenier" code, for I think Fullers included Fulbert "the tanner"! Plus, it was already seen that Pollocks/Pooke's look like a branch of Powers from Poix / Pois, the entity from which one could expect the development of "Peas/Peacock."
I know what this peascods code is and how it worked. It starts with the Pewsey location mentioned in the Poussin write-up. One can see that the Paw/Pauws surname can develop from "Peas," and therefore the Quintus lion paw should relate. It just so happens that both Paw surnames use peacocks... explaining why Peacocks come up as "Peas." Apparently, Peacocks had been a branch of Paws / Poussins. The bear paw will link to exactly this entity.
I kid you not, that after writing the above, I recalled the Pollock trace to the de-Pols of Foix-Candale, but the recollection had not to do with the geography around Candale. Instead, I was merely thinking that Pollocks and Peacocks were tracing hard to the riddle out of Rennes-le-Chateau because it is beside Foix. I then recalled that Candale (smacking of the canton > Candy topic) is at the BORDeaux area (in Gironde), which is where the Butteri-suspect BITURiges are stamped on this map. I then went to my atlas and saw, smack beside Bordeaux, a PESSAC location smacking of "peascods"! Recall the theory that "Porter" and "Border" may be one thing, for the peascod entity is related to Porters.
As Poitiers / PoitVan was shown to be a Venice line, it's interesting that the Pesci surname was first found in Venice, for the Pesci fish is used by Verona's/Vairs, first found in the same place (Ile-de-France) as Foix's and La Falaise (the latter expected to be related to Fulbert "the tanner" of Falaise). Peas/Peacocks (suspect on the Wear river) need to link to Wears, you see, and so a Pessac trace to "Pesci" makes sense. The Pesci fish leads to that of Khyan-suspect Keons and Kane's, likely honored in the "inescutCHEON code."
Italian Pace's/PASCels (spears in Pesci colors) are also shown as "PACENTi, you see, suggesting the Picenum / Apachnas line to Poitiers-related Pollocks. Pollocks lived at PAISley (where Spears were roughly first found), and then the Peace/Paise Coat (colors reversed to Wears) is probably using doves cleverly as apparent code for a peace theme, but reality acting as code for the Cuppae location (city of doves) at the Pek-river theater. The Paisley's (link to the Cappins/Alpins) are in Pace colors. Therein is the Caepio-Hyksos line, at the Pek river of Moesia. Peace's, an apparent part of the blue-apple riddle, were first found in the Orkneys, suggesting the raven vikings in cahoots with the Liefs/Leve's, likewise using the dove.
My initial guess is that Paws and Poussins are from mythical Poias at Powys (mid-Wales, beside Cheshire), in which case the Peacock fesse is the Welsh Bach fesse too, showing the "vair" bell pattern found also in the Chief of paw-using Quints. The Bach stars are in the colors of the Packer stars, suspect with the Annas star. Later, I changed my mind about a "Poias" equation with "Powys," even though Poias > Hercules elements are strongly suspect in northern Wales. I instead traced Powys to Laevi Gauls, as you shall see.
I rejected the dating system of Egyptologists that makes it impossible for pharaoh Apachnas/Khyan to have been the Exodus pharaoh. I pegged him as the Exodus pharaoh before finding the gold calf once showing in the German BACH Coat. We now see a bull called a "steer." Steers (could be using a colors-reversed version of the German Kaplan/Kaplin Shield) share a lion's paw out of a "mural" crown with Amore's.
Pollocks/Pooke's use a thin saltire in the gold color of the thin Noon saltire surrounded by lion paws! One can get the impression that Noons (Numidian suspects) should be linking to the Welsh elements of Pollocks / Powers...trace-able to the Laevi > Livings/Levins. The Noon bull is partly red, the color of the bull used by Caiaphas-suspect Charo's/Claro's using a thin bend.
There is a Pews surname, first found in southern Wales (Montgomeryshire), showing a Pugh variation that may be related to Bagh variation of Bachs. The "itur" motto term (shared with Shaws) of Pews/Pughs traces to Idris-Kanza elements. The Pews/Pughs use the white dolphin in the Ceasar Crest (Kent, Numidian-ville). The three roses in the Ceasar Chief are those also of Seeds/Cedes'/Seete's, important because Steers (and Amore's) use a "cede" motto term.
As Steers are linking to Apachnas elements suspect with Paeoni, Steers may be named from "Satrae."
Pollocks use a "Poage" variation that may suggest merger with Page's/Paige's, strongly suspect with Payens/Pagans. French Page's (look like a Pagnell branch) were first found in the same place, Dauphine, as Payens, and then the Dauphine surname likewise uses the white dolphin (same design) of Pews'/Pughs and Caesars.
However, I'm not inclined to equate Payens with Poussins. Nor am I inclined to equate "Pollock" with "Payen," though a merger appears evident. It appears that Pois/Poix was named after Powers of the Peas/Peacock kind to which Pollocks and Payens became attached. Page's use a chevron in the colors of the Bach/Bagh fesse and of the Pek/Pech chevron.
Let me repeat: "The Bebbans were first found in the same place as Jays (and Jeffersons), and then the Bebban Coat is a bird (dove) in the same position, and on a blue Shield, as the same of the Poitvin Coat." The dolphin under discussion was from Daphne, granddaughter of EVERES, the so-called "shepherd seer" that was code for Hyksos out of their capital of AVARIS. French Porters were first wound in Berry, what was earlier called, AVARICum.
Bebbanburgs were the Apophis line though Paphlagonian Heneti (evokes the Kennedy dolphin) to the Veneti. The Bevan variation of Bebbans was traced to the Biaini of Lake Van, but as I traced them through mythical Pan to the naming of Panias/Banias (Phoenicia), the location that I think named "Phoenicia," compare "Biaini > Panias" to "Paeoni," for I think the Payen line from the Pek was of a Paeoni peoples. This could explain the Bebban/Bevan dove appearing like a version of the blue jay in the Poitvin/PotVAN Coat.
I don't think that "Poussin" should be from the same thing as "Poitiers." I'm taking the position that Poitvins were of the Padova > Batavi line though Poitiers, and that Padova elements may have named Italian Botters that developed into Poitiers, Potters, Porters, and Borders. It can be argued that Budini on the Bodencus (Po) were very close to the namers of Padova, and that this line named the Bidens/Buttons, Putents/Puttens/Putochs and Patents/Putins/Padyns.
If correct that Pollocks are using a variation borrowed from Page's / Pughs, it corroborates what was found earlier in this update: that Caiaphas lines (of the Ottone-Visconti kind) went to the Mieszko's as per his wife, Oda. Pollocks traced instead to his other wife (Dobrawa), whose lines put out the Dobers / Dobermans, and then a Doby surname (red fitchees), in colors reversed from Dobers, was first found in the same place (Renfrewshire) as Pollocks and Paige-like Paisleys.
What really were the JEWISH Pollocks? As the Jewish Pollock bend has traced to the same of Jays as well as to the same of Dobermans, what's the Jay connection to Dobermans? Jays are said to be from "Gai," and so the Gouy location of Aisne (Picardy) is in view because the Dobbs motto uses "summa," code possibly for the Somme river in downtown Picardy. The French Guy write-up speaks on a De Guy location of Picardy. It's interesting that the family of Guy of Lusignan became kings of Templar Jerusalem. "Guy of Lusignan (c. 1150 - 18 July 1194) was a Poitevin knight, son of Hugh VIII..." Don't Pollocks trace to Poix of Picardy?
As de-Pols were in Foix, might "Poix" be a variation of "Foix." The Dobbs unicorns can trace well to the Cnut unicorn where Dobbs' were from "Dobrawa." I'm guessing that the Dobbs Shield is that of the Foix's, first found in Ile-de-France, for the other French Foix's (Auvergne), suspect as using the Moray stars from Mieszko's, could be using the bend of Bissets (first found beside Moray) while there is a Doubs area at Besancon (north-east France). The Doubs river flows to a Dole location, and then Pollocks come from Dol. Besancons use Bisset-like variations, you see, as well as Bez-variations, suggesting a line from Bezprym (son of Mieszko). The French Bez'/BAISE's use stars in the colors of the Foix / Moray stars, and so I think this explains why de-Pols were at Foix-Candale.
In other words, Pollock liners are tracing to the Doubs / Besancon area, to Poix, to Foix, and to Bordeaux. It's the Pois entity that I think Poussins share origins with, but if this entity named Foix, then Poussins are expected in Foix, beside Rennes-le-Chateau.
Compare BESANcon and its variations to "Pessac." Or consider the "BEACON" in the Fuller Coat that stands as code for Beacons/Bacons. I traced Fullers to "RoqueFEUIL," beside Foix, and then the Arms of Roquefeuil shares billets with the Besancon surname. Clovis' mother, Basina is coming to mind with a Pollock trace to Besancon. The Bessin/Beaston surname suggests that "Best" could apply, and then French Bests are the Bez'/Baise's above, first found in Languedoc, location of Foix and Roquefeuil.
Is it a contradiction to trace these terms to Basina as well as the Bezprym?
Toulouse (Languedoc capital), suspect with Dol / Dole / Tool elements, is where Quintus Caepio found the gold bars. The Tool lion is the Strange lion, and then English Baise's/Base's use two lions in the format of the Strange lions. Why are Baise's/Base's said to be from "fishmonger"? Are we talking the Pesci surname, suggested earlier with "Pessac"?
Baskets (in Pesci colors), who are traced in their write-up to "Pask/Pascal," were first found in the same place (Dorset) as Palins/PAWleys, and use a chevron in the colors of the Paisley chevron. Pasks/Pasco's use the Palin/Pawley lion, and Palins/Pawleysuse the Power Chief. This is another way to recognize Powers as a Pollock branch.
I'm taking the position that Palins/Pawleys are a branch of Romney-related Pullens / Lombers that trace to two locations in Picardy: Lumbres and Rumigny. Palins/Pawleys use stars in the colors of the Pulesdon/Pilson stars. As Faucetts/Fauxside's use the black Palin lion, it tends to corroborate a Fauxside trace to "Foix."
Why is the Poitvin "jay perched on a silver rock in BASE"? The rock is the color of the rocks used by Roque's/Rocks, first found in Languedoc. Why is the "base" code used? Perhaps the Pollock (and Traby) hunting horn is that of German Base's/BASSENs.
There is even a Baisley surname registered with Beesleys/BEZleys (in Peas/Peacock colors), using symbols within roundels, as do Peas/Peacocks, and the Coat looks definitely like a version of the Pike Coat! It's Shield may even be construed as a red version of the Dobbs Shield, in which case the base code is for Besancon elements suspect with Basina, wife of CHILDeric!!! Those exclamatons are for the Baisley Shield looking like a version of the Chill/Child Shield, such a surprise. It's clinching the trace of Childeric to the Chills'/Childs while tracing "Basina" to Baisleys.
We are thus tracing Basina to Besancons, Paisleys, and probably the Peas/Peacocks out of Pessac at Bordeaux. In fact, after saying that, the Bords were looked up again to find that French Bords were first found in the same place (Forez) as Besancons!!! We can now fully see the Merovingian link to Mieszko Poles where Dobrawa-based Dobbs linked to Besancon. There is a Bordeaux surname in Peacock colors.
I've been of the opinion that the white-on-red Chill/Child eagles are a colors-reversed from of the red phoenix tracing to Lake Van, for Merovingians claimed to be from the Veneti. The Chill/Child eagles are therefore very-likely from the red Tarent/Taran eagles, for there was a Tarun location at lake Van.
Trents were first found in the same place (Somerset) as Treasure's/Treshers and Borders, and I suspect that Treasure's are a branch of Trists/Triss', honored by the Hebrons/Hepburns (Northumberland) using a Shield like that of Chills/Childs...because Hepburns were from Chillingham. Hepburns, lest we forget, are suspect with "Apple / Hepple."
It is important that Trists/Triss' use stars in the colors of the Wallis canton surrounding Sion/Sitten, as well as a white-on-red rose, while Hebrons use a red-on-white rose, while Trents uses roses in both color schemes upon a Shield smacking of the Wallis / Sion Shields. It is highly reasonable to trace the Wallis/Wallace surname from Wallis canton, and then the same lion as used by Wallace's is in the Bordeaux Coat (five crosses).
I don't think it's my poor vision that at fault: the Treasure/Tresher chevron does not look typical red, but scarlet. I don't recall any other scarlet symbol. I can't be sure that the Scarlet surname applies, but they do use lion's paws in Crest, and perhaps the Wallace lion. The Treasure chevron is said to be "red," but it's not red.
The Merovingian bees may be code especially for the Beesley line to the Bees surname. It's revealing that Basina leads to / from Sion/Sitten. The first clue is the split Shield of Baisleys/Beesleys, like the Arms of Sion (colors reversed to the split Shield of Trents). Let's not forget that Panias was at mount Sion of Phoenicia, and that the city is trace-able to a BIAini peoples of Armenia, the area that the Lusignans wanted wanted as their own.
The second clue for a Basina trace to Sion/Sitten is in the Bees Coat, a colors-reversed version of the Say Coat, and that means I've got to repeat yet again that Seatons/Sittens, in Say colors, were from a town of Say. The third clue is that the green dragon head in the Bees Crest is, I think, from the design of the green Seaton dragon (color of the Treasure/Tresher dragons).
There in the Seaton Coat you see the double tressure BORDER, very important for the trace of Seatons/Satans to the naming of Sitten because the Bordeaux Coat uses the same lion as Wallis'. Probably, heraldic besants are code most-especially for the line of Basina. As the Seeds/Cedes'/SEETE's use besants, it looks like they ought to be a Seaton-Childeric line.
Now that we know the Bees Coat to be from Basina and Childeric, we can include the similar Bessens (Middlesex) using the Bees Shield yet again. But let's not stop there, for as we can see the black Sale bend running through the Bees Coat (expected because Merovingians must trace to Salyes Ligures), we find a similar thing in the Hanan Coat. The Annas star is in the colors of the Vere star which you can see in the Hanan-like Vere Coat, and while Vere's are suspect from Pharisees, it suggests strongly that the Hanans and Annas' were from the father-in-law of Caiaphas.
The fact that Childeric's family placed hundreds of gold bees in his tomb / casket could suggest that the family had gold "to burn." Did Merovingians conquer the owners of the gold bars and take it, or was the gold passed on to them secretly as an inheritance. Who was more likely to be the keeper of the bars, Basina's family in Thuringia, or Childeric's ancestry in some Frank ingredient?
The Middlesex location of Bessens, using the Massey Shield, reminds that Goplo-suspect Kibble's were first found in Middlesex. More importantly for the double tressure line to the Blois apples, the heraldic bendlets used by the counts of Blois are now tracing to the Bendle's/Bendalls (crowned blue lion) from Benthall (Middlesex) just four miles from Bamburgh. The red leopard in the Bendle Crest may be that of Antons, who may trace ultimately to mythical ANTONor, founder of the Veneti.
The Bends/Bents (besants) likewise use a blue lion. We can therefore expect the blue-Caepio-lion in Blois. As Blois married the line of Gauzlin of Maine, it's interesting that while Rorgon / Rorich was the son of a Gauzlin, the Rory Coat uses a crowned blue (on white) lion! "Rory" is a known variation of "Rorich/Rurik." Even the Rory Crest shows a blue lion, as does the Bend/Bent Crest. I am quite sure that this Rory lion is that of Rory (MacDonald) of Bute, linkable to the blue lion of green-dragon Creightons/Crichtons of Bute (it's the Bees dragon design).
Does this mean that we can draw a line from Rorich of Maine to the blue lion of Bute??? Apparently. As Glass' were first found in Buteshire, might the green Melusine in the Glass crest apply to the green Crichton dragon. Melusine was, after all, the dragon entity of Lusignan. Plus, the blue Bendle/Bendall lion is in the two colors of the Massin/Mason lion, and the latter surname also uses Melusine in Crest. Just like that, heraldry has drawn a line from the Gauzlin merger with Blois to green-dragon / Melusine elements in Bute. (See "Rorich" in the last update for details.)
British Israelism, or European Israelism, what I once claimed as a bogus movement from Masons based in non-Israelite Hebrews such as Nahorites and Joktanites, is now revealed to be based in true Jews of the Christ-killer kind. It's far worse than I thought.
The involvement of Pollock lines in the Poussin family takes me back to the gold apples in the Chartrans Coat, for that surname appeared to be of the Alans of Dol. It's interesting if the Carters link to Chartres and Chartrans elements, for the Best/Bez Coat uses two lions facing one another -- suspect as code for mythical Pollux -- in the colors of the same of Carters. Pollux worshipers and their elements are not suspect in the naming of the Pollock surname as much as they named Poland altogether.
The Pews/Pughs (Montgomeryshire) appear to be Payen liners of the Pollock kind. I have never stressed a Pollock link to Payens. I traced Pollocks to Mieszko's through the Mackays of SUTHERland, and then the Jewish-Pollock bend colors are in use also by Sewer-suspect Suthers, first found in the same place (Suffolk) as Blois'. The blue apples have become suspect with Siward lines exactly, from his ancestry in Bebbanburgs.
Recalling that Siward was suspect as a Howe liner, it's of value that one Irish Mackay Coat uses the black Howe wolf heads, and then Howe's were first found in the same place (Berkshire) as Poussins and Packers. I think that Peas/Peacocks were Packer lines, but let's not forget that the Peacock fesse is also the Poitier fesse. These elements are highly suspect in the ownership of the historical gold bars out of Rennes-le-Chateau, important because the Caiaphas line married Hugh de Payen, and must have informed him about the bars.
It is significant to find Payens at the center of the Caepio gold bars, for Hugh de Payen spent years with a Templar crew digging down some 80 feet into the foundations of the Jerusalem temple. And Caracalla spent the last four years of his life in Syria and Egypt, according to his Wikipedia article. Did he ship gold bars to the Israel area? Did the Templars retrieve the bars and bury them under the Temple with the hope of ruling Jerusalem forever? Think of it: Armageddon pops the Dome of the Rock off of it's foundations, exposing 49,681 gold bars.
The Balfour PawrWe may speculate that the Dome of the Rock, and its Muslim lovers, have acted, to this day, to keep the sons of Caiaphas from retrieving the gold under the Temple. Rothschilds may have attempted to dig down, but perhaps Muslims may have stopped them at every attempt as a design of God. It was Arthur Balfour (said to be a satanist), a powerful man in Britain, who partook in re-establishing the modern nation of Israel, in cahoots with Rothschilds of England. By what coincidence do we read in the Balfour write-up that their name might be from "pawr." The laughable part is that "pawr" is said to be from a "pasture." Might a pasture-like surname show signs of linkage to paw-using Quints? I already know the answer.
Bush-likely Pastors use FIVE billets (Besancons use 11), and Dutch Bush's likewise use billets. Pesters/Pistolls (in Pastor colors) have a chevron in Quint-chevron colors. Pastors, at least, look like branches of Bests from the Besancon entity, and then, while there is no Four surname coming to seek what "BalFOUR" might be all about, Fore's and similar terms bring up the Forez surname, from the Forez area where Besancons were first found. We just saw Seatons link to the Basina line of Besancon, and then the Arthur motto, "FORward," as a term found in the Seaton motto.
It is suggesting that the Balfour write-up is tracing to a BalPawr entity in relation to Besancons. Perhaps the pawr term is deliberate code for Powers, said to be from "poor," laughable again. Powers are traced to a Pois location, and to its Pohier peoples, in Picardy. In keeping with a Poix equation with "Foix," we check the possibility that "Pohier" may be a "Foyer" variation, and that finds the Foix/Foy Coat coming up with "Foyer." I think we have just learned that Powers were a branch of Foix's with certainty, and one Foix/Foy surname was first found in the same place as Levi's, which suggests that both moved a little north from Ile-de-France to the Poix theater. But as Powers use the Living/Levin Chief, it strongly suggests that the latter were a branch of Levi's. As we should expect Chappes elements amongst the Power-Levi merger, it's very Caepio-interesting that Saer de Quincy was involved with Foix-suspect Faucetts/Fauxside's.
As Italian Pastors use stars in the colors of the same of Palins (i.e. who use the Power Chief), we have more reason to believe that "pawr = pasture" is Balfour code for Powers and Pastors together. But it then suggests that "BALfour" was part with "PALin." Remember too that Polesdons use stars in Pastor-star colors. Clever but satanically deceptive. What else do Masons lie about when they educate us? The FIVE billets of Pastors may now be revealed as the number used in honor of Quincy's.
This recalls what Wikipedia says (I think in it's article on Romulus, Michigan), that the town was co-founded by a Pullen surname in conjunction with a Pulcipher surname. Then, entering "Pulsipher" gets the Polesdons, while Pullens share the Romney Coat. That's why I traced the founding of Romulus to Romneys, but later, I found that Bush's who adopted the ancestry of the presidential Bush's (they were not born Bush's) were linked fundamentally to Mormonism's founder, as well as to Mitt Romney, a Mormon. Now I'm finding that Bush's were linked to Polesdons/Pulsiphers.
It became apparent to me that George Bush invaded Iraq on behalf of Rothschild interests. Here we are now finding that Bush's were related to Balfours. Bush was himself "pro-Israel," and yet he was for the Palestinian state, something I thought some Israel-involved Rothschilds were for too, aside from considerations of George Bush. It was George Bush who birthed the "roadmap" push to create a Palestinian state. This idea must be part of a compromise decision by Rothschilds, explaining why Obama is pushing it too.
The "baton" in the Balfour Crest could be code for the Button/Biden and Botter/Budin bloodlines that link hard with Porters/PAWters and Poitiers. The Batons (in Balfour colors) show black bats, and yet all the variations show as BAST terms, which may be bringing us right back to the Pastor / Pester = Basina of Besancon lines.
The otter of Balfours traces to Otters/Others, said to be at the root of Windsors, of Windsor castle in Berkshire, where Poix-suspect Poussins were first found. The Otters/Others are said to be from Lombardy, and English Powers use green and white, Lombardy colors.
The wavy Pollock bend appears to be in Lombardy colors in the German Otter Coat. This surname is traced to an ArmorBACH location of an OttirBACH surname, important because it appeared earlier that Pollocks should link to Bachs. Another early variation of Otters is shown as "UsterPACH."
This Otter bend is colors reversed to the Wear bend, in Lombardy colors too. Wears are included here because they were, as with Pollocks, from Poland. Mieszko-Siward elements had traced heavily to the Wear river, which makes the Otters suspect with Oda Mieszko's line. Wears share the crosslets type of Windsors, and Otters are said to be descended from Windsors as they became dukes of Lombardy. Later (see next update), when Winders are clinched as a Windsor branch, I discovered that "German Winders/Wunders use the same bend as Jewish Pollocks, and are therefore suspect with German Otters."
Durham is on the Wear river, and then the English-Otter crescents are colors reversed to the Durham-surname crescent. The "Ultra" motto term of Durhams seems to be code for Halters because both surnames use dolphins. The Halters, suspect with the Halden / Alten lines from Oda Mieszko (of Haldensleben), use Wear / Lombardy colors too. The "duce" motto term of Halters may suggest the Duke's/Dooks using what I think are wreaths as alternatives to the Ottone rings. The "roll of paper" in the Halter Crest suggests that we should be at the Roets / Role's in and around Hainaut.
The Otter bend is also in the colors of the Dutch Valence's/Valentinus for reasons that follow. The footless martlets of the other two Valance Coats are such as to suggest Caiaphas / Sadducee lines. There is a Valenciennes location near Cuinchy of Artois...very close to Mons, where the Powers-related Livings/Levins must trace. Reminder: there's a Lievin location near Cuinchy. Valenciennes is not far north of Saint Quentin. These points are important because "WINdsor" may be a Quint line, and, if so, it's suspect as a Caepio line.
I am therefore convinced that Pollocks got to be a branch of Ottirbachs. It's new to me. The Armors below show everything to be expected of Pollocks, and yet there is no Armorbach location coming up at Google, but only an Amorbach location. Either houseofnames misspelled it, or the location was also "Armorbach." I'll proceed as though the latter was a correct spelling.
Armors show the same sort of "squire's helmet" as Dobys, first found in the same place as Pollocks, and tracing to Mieszko's first wife. The Squire's/Squirrels are suspect with Siward lines to Pollock roots in the Valents, who use the Pollock bend in the same colors, with squirrels on the bend. The Armors even show the Moray-colored stars that I think belonged to Mieszko lines. It makes one understand why the Mieske Coat uses an arm in armor, code for the Armors at the Armorbach location of Otters. I see this as having to do with the Funerius line of Valentinian's father (Gratian) to the Pendragon-related Vaughns.
The "inALTus" term of Vaughns can be for the Halden / Alten elements of Mieszko's second wife. This is new to me, and is tracing, not just Pollocks, but Mieszko and/or his wife, to emperor Valentinian. This is comprehensible where Valentinian merged with the family of Clovis, and perhaps brought Clovis to wide power. If that's correct, the gold bars can be expected in the family of Valentinian.
The bent arm used by Mieske's and Vaughns is sometimes called, "enBOWED," and there is a Bowed/Bowd surname using black bulls, the symbol of Mieske's. Moreover, the bull design of Bowds is that also of German Bachs. Moreover yet, a black bull head is used by Tipps'/Tippens.
It's important that the Armor Coat is a version of the Tipper Coat, for the Balfour baton is said to be, "TIP silver." This is not a coincidence, for while it's the Balfours who gave the otter to topic, Kennedys (in Pendragon / Vaughn colors) of TIPPERary likewise use (along with Armors) the squire's helmet. Moreover, Pendragons, first found in the same place as Tippers, use a helmet of their own, and a "TEIPsum" motto term. So, you see, Balfours were prone to raising satanists of the Pendragon kind.
The "la fin" motto phrase of Scottish Kennedys is for the Lafin surname, first found in Tipperary, showing a "La Font" variation that must be of the Font de Ville's whom I trace back to Mieszko's Sardinian ancestry, suspect as Visconti's.
It just so happens that myth writers gave Pendragon an "Uther" name, and then the Otters of Armorbach are said to derive in "Utter." The Otters/Others of Windsor-based Lombardy should therefore link to Amorbach / Armorbach, in northern Bavaria. Couldn't we expect Bauers (= proto-Rothschilds) to be from Bavarians?
If we tweak the Bowed surname (in Palin colors) to "Bower > Bauer," it's not out of line, for Boweds were first found in the same place (Dorset) as Palins/Pawleys, whom were identified with Balfours. It may explain why Arthur Balfour got to power (British prime minister / foreign minister) as a Rothschild puppet. The Rothchild surname (no 's') was first found in Bavaria. Jewish Rothchilds may be using the Zionist star of Weis' (same colors), important where the Bavarian Illuminati was founded by a Weishaupt surname.
Both Scottish and German Bowers / Bauers use green Shields, as do Powers, this perhaps tracing to the green Lombardy. Windsor castle is in the same place (Berkshire) as where Poussins, Croms, and others important to the blue-apple riddle, were first found. As the gold-bar line of Caiaphas is expected in Windsor castle, its notable that while Armors use a "Cassis" motto term, Scottish Kennedys use a version of the Cassel Coat. It shares fitchees and a red chevron with the Quint Coat. A granddaughter of Quintus Caepio married Gaius Cassius Longinus.
Those who claim that the Bavarian Illuminati was founded by Rothschilds will always point to the first Rothschild's alliance with the prince of Hesse-CASSEL. There is a story out that Mayer Rothschild stole the prince's fortune in order to become an international banker. But I now suspect that Bauers had come to possess some gold Caepio bars.
The first Rothschild (Mayer) was in the cotton business. He sent his son, Nathan, to London to oversee some cotton business (I think with the British crown as it produced army uniforms). We then find that the Cotton surname (chevron in colors reversed to that of Armors) was first found in the same place (Huntingdon) as Otters! Cottons (in Falcon and Close/Clovse colors), using "hanks of cotton," have what looks like a code-studded Crest: "A falcon proper with a gold bell on a leg, the dexter claw on a belt with a gold buckle." It's the Naughten falcon described as "A falcon close." Hanks may be using the Guerra bars.
Perhaps I'm wrong about tracing Cottons to Rothschild cotton. Or, perhaps "Cotton" is included in a surname, having nothing to do with cotton initially, because Bauers > Rothschilds merged with the surname. The Cottons use a chevron surrounded by symbols in the colors of the same of Ottone's, you see. I see Ottone's as VisCONTI's who were named in-part after Conte's (Font-de-Ville kin) using the Falcon crescents. Cottons use a "paratus" motto term that is the full motto of Swords.
English Falcons (showing the same falcon design as Cottons) even use a "Vis" motto term, not to mention a "fier" motto term. There is a Fier surname listed with Fears/Fere's. Vair "fur" is used by Oettingens of Bavaria, and then the related Odins share the crozier symbol with Fear-suspect Wears. It can be predicted that Oettingens were a branch of Ottone's. It brings to mind the Feur surname of the window provider at Rennes-le-Chateau, and the Mr. Captier bell ringer suspect with Ottone-related Chappes'.
The Oettingen location (Swabia theater) is not far from Amorbach. Welsh Bachs (vair) share the talbot dog with the Arms of Oettingen-Oettingen. The two Scott surnames use versions of two Talbot Coats, and were merged with Amors, suggesting the distinct possibility that A(r)morbach was linked to the Oettingens, which may then reveal that Ottirs of A(r)morbach were Oettingens of some sort.
The white horse in the Odin Crest is used by Aslings (white roses on stems proves Siward links) too, and while Pollocks and Stewarts were closely related to Wallace's, the Odin Coat shows the Wallace lion (or is it the Bordeaux lion? Or the Garland lion?). The Asling Coat looks like it's using a form of the blue Saviours/Saver nebulee, and it just dawned on me that Saviours/SAVERs are a branch of Sewers, explaining why Savers use the Asling nebulee in same colors. Amor's use nebulee too.
The Oettingen vair is in an unusual red-and-gold color, the colors of the Otters from Lombardy.
The ASCELin version of the Aslings can now link harder to Haskels, who use the identical (colors included), vair-filled Shield of Champagne's. French Champagne's use a bend like that of Romneys and Blois' (bendlets included), but as Romneys were merged with the Lombar surname. it's the first inkling that the Otters of Lombardy may have been involved in Blois, the crux of the blue-apple riddle. One symbol of the counts of Blois likewise used vair fur.
Odins share the crozier symbol with the Wear bend, in colors reversed from the Otter/Ottirbach bend, and the Wear Crest uses the gold Gore / Windsor crosslet. It's very close to the design of the gold potent cross of Templar Jerusalem. The white Wear lion is therefore suspect as the Odin lion that has the crozier. When we get to the French Croziers, there are two surprises: 1) they were first found in Auvergne, where Bouillons were first found: 2) they are the fifth or sixth example in days for using the same sort of rare cross shared by Chaddocks and Capet-suspect Seagrams. Surprise number one is important because the Jerusalem potent cross is said to belong to Godfrey de Bouillon, and surprise number two has to do with the potent cross of Chads. Who's big, fat besant is it in the Crozier Coat?
Didn't we find the potent cross to be a symbol of Poitier elements because Arms of Poitiers use besants on black like the Putent Coat? Poitiers are another surname using the cross type of Croziers.
What unGodly thing was in Norfolk that Chads should be first found there? Seagrams had branches in Norfolk. And I've just looked up "Chat" to find that they, too were first found in Norfolk. Chats use black cats of the design (different position) used by Croms! What UnGodly thing was in Berkshire that Croms should be first found there? Are not Chats a branch of Sadducees along with Saddocks and Chadocks?
On this page, you will find evidence enough that NASA did not put men on the moon.
Starting at this paragraph, there is a single piece of evidence
-- the almost-invisible dot that no one on the outside was supposed to find --
that is enough in itself to prove the hoax.
End-times false signs and wonders may have to do with staged productions like the lunar landing.
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