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The Geddes-Luce's Mystery

This update will take several quotes from an article on the Geddes family. Near the start we find:
The Geds land-ees is fair to see,
With valleys broad and rivers three;
Where Eske and Annan, and the Nith
Flow softly to the Solway Firth".

The Annan, hum? We wonder who named it. It so evokes Guido Guerra at the theater of the Ananes Gauls.

This update claims to find Geddes foundations in the name two Roman emperors with some compelling evidence that has me convinced. You will also find compelling evidence the Payen lines were at a mount Pilat, named after Pontius Pilate. This update digs into the early centuries after 70 AD, explaining the gist of how the families or rulers around mount Pilat evolved both into the Geddes' and Merovingians. I should be fascinated on the fact that heraldry can verify these things, but the subject matter is evil and spoils the surprises.

The article lies to us, and perhaps deliberately so to hide the true foundations of the Geds. The Geds are to be slightly distinguished from the Geddes' as per geographical considerations alone. The Geds were around the Nith and Annas, and the Geddes came later, northward at Moray and Nairn theater. We read: " One of [the Geds] selected as its exemplar the most ferocious and voracious of freshwater fish, the pike, called, in the tongue of the Northmen, the ged. This is the origin of the Geddes name and the tap root of the Geddes stock." That's a lie. The Geds may have taken the pike as a symbol due to similarity of terms, but they were not named after it. Who in their right minds would name themselves after a fish?

The author, who I think is Auckland Campbell Geddes, neglects either deliberately or otherwise, to link Niall character below to clans of Ireland said to be from Hy Nial, who likewise use the fish symbol. I didn't know of this Ged connection to that Irish family until late in the update. I'll explain it then. The article says: "...somewhere in the upper Nith valley, that the Scottish Geddeses, the children of Niall [after 400 AD, Arthurian period], made their first home in Caledonia." The upper Nith is an area where Numidian lines have been traced recently. The Nith flows past Closeburn castle, held by Kilpatricks. The article will mention a man with a Patrick surname, but makes no connection to Kilpatricks, as though, perhaps, it's to remain a secret.

It goes one to mention areas of dragon-line concern: "While the Geds were multiplying in Galloway other Scots were moving into [nearby] Ayrshire, pushing up the Clyde valley, occupying Cantyre, and spreading out into Dumbarton and Argyll. " Numidian territories, and home of the Herod lines. The question is, how and when did those Herod lines arrive? Perhaps with the attache of Roman emperors. Wait until you see which emperor formed the Geds. He's been a topic of mine over some months.

It says: "Gradually they consolidated their organisation and formed the first Scottish kingdom in Caledonia-Dalriada" Caledonia was a term generally used for Scotland, or the land of the Picts, or some specific area of what later became Scotland. However, if the author has Caledonian roots in mind, which I think are in the Celt/Colt/Cult surname, to mention one, it's very interesting that this surname uses the Pilate pheon in colors reversed. It just so happens that: 1) the Roman emperor who formed the Geds was born some 30 miles from mount Pilat; 2) Pontius Pilate is said by some to have been the son of a Roman ambassador to the Picts, and Pictish woman of Perthshire; 3) the Celts/Colts were first found in Perthshire.

You can see why I should be excited to be finding the secrets on this matter, but, again, it involves Christ killers, all of them.

DalRiada smacks of Reate (now Rieti), where a Marcus Terentius Varro was born, the one who worked on the re-settlement of Capua and Campania elements at the direction of his Roman emperor, Nero. I have yet to read where those peoples were re-settled, but Champagne and Avallon in France comes to mind. The Arms of Rieti uses fish (pikes?) and a horse-and-rider. Moreover, what a surprise, Rieti uses a flag half purple! It was reasoned that the Geds were from the Gaetuli Numidians who manufactured purple dye for the Romans, wherefore any purple in any Arms becomes suspect with the Gaetuli. If the celebrated DalRiada term for Irish-Scots of the northlands was named after Rieti, then we could image some Gaetuli elements involved, in which case the Geds appear at the foundations of the naming of Dalriada.

Dalriada origins are said to be in the Hebrides island group of far-northern Scotland. In this Geddes article, we learn that Geds went to live up there, at Eriboll, anyway, a term possibly from "Awraba." Later, I discover some Mackay-based evidence that Eriboll could indeed be named after Awraba elements, perhaps even by the peoples on the Urbanus/Urbas river (that I think was named by the namers of Awraba). If you think this is unrealistic, wait to see that the emperor who founded the Geds traces back to the Sava river, one tributary of which is the Urbanus.

Rieti is about 15 miles from the Umbria border, and so read on as you see "Cumbria." Entertain Cumbria as the location of Merovingians in Britain, my idea. I had traced Carlysle, at the north end of Cumbria, to the naming of Carolingians. Penrith of Cumbria was identified (tentatively, anyway) as the naming of Pendragon, along with the Pennines range of the Penrith area. I had other reasons for identifying the Pendragons as Merovingians in Britain, and so you just wait and see how the emperor who named the Geddes had a brother, another emperor, who founded the symbol of Clovis, the second Merovingian king (about 500 AD).

Prior to Merovingians in Cumbria, we could expect, in that land, El-Gabal elements from Assisi (in Umbria) and Arretium (near the Umbria border), for the emperors who named the Geds and the Luce's were merged with the family of the El-Gabal priesthood. Thus, while Pendragons of Cumbria are suspect from Arretium elements, add to that Cumbrian picture the family of Childeric who married a line of the El-Gabal cult. My theory was been that Childeric's son, Clovis, named Closeburn, because the Close surname is also "Clovse." To now find that Closeburn is on the Nith, home of the Geds from an emperor (200 AD) who married the El-Gabal, speaks rather loudly on a potential Clovis link to Closeburn.

The below says that Cumbria had origins to the north of Cumbria, at the sources of the Clyde river, which is on the west side of Peebles before it flows into Glasgow. In other words, if flows to the Ayrshire theater. But if the namers of this river also named Clovis (he was born "CHLODEwig":), then Cumbria was founded by such Merovingian elements. However, it should be said that the emperor immediately before Nero was CLAUDius. The evidence seems to be in favor of a Chlodewig link to the Clyde, though he may have been named after Claudius elements. CHILDeric looks to be a form of CHLODEwig.

One can see that Scottish Masonry will prove to be based on this Roman picture. The other major branch of Masonry is called the York Rite. Wait until you see where the emperors who named the Geddes and Luce's were staying when they were proclaimed the emperors. The Nith flows parallel with the Clyde, but in the opposite direction. Between the two rivers, we could expect the families that named both Masonic rites. The York Rite uses a besant and a white rose. Fancy that, for Geddes' kin show us why the rose was important.

The Nitt surname is registered with Naughts/Nutts, first found in Dumfries, indicating that this family was a Nith-river family. It uses blue-and-white checks trace-able to Ferrats/Fers, first found in Brittany, where Rennes is located, where Judicael ruled who is honored in the motto of the Raines Coat, indicating that the Raines' were named after Rennes, or vice-versa. By what coincidence (there is none) does the Nitt/Naught Coat use three white-on-black lions, the Raines' lions? For me, this is indication that MontFERRAT elements, who married Guido Guerra III, were on the Nith. Thus, as expected, the Geds must link back to whatever the Guidi were called prior to about 200 BC. We will shortly learn that the proto-Guidi were something like "Geta."

Italians like to turn names like "Annas" to "Agnas." Italians like a silent 'g' beside an 'n', as, for example, the Italian for lamb, "agnello," pronounced, "anniello." Centuries after the Geds appear on the Annas and Nith, a Rainier of Montferrat had a son, William V, whose daughter, Agnes, married Guido Guerra off the Reno river. We can see in all this that this line was from the Annas and Nith rivers of the Ged theater. The Geds named the Guidi's, somehow. Heraldry and a little fundamental history make the fact apparent.

As I know that the "Commit" motto term of Sinclairs is for the Conte/Comites surname (as per Herluin de Conteville) that married the mother of William the Conqueror, one can trace the "comitto" motto term of Nitts/Naughts to Montferrat, where there is a Tanaro river tracing (somehow) to the Conqueror's mother's first husband, "the tanner." I'm assuming they wanted to keep their roots at the Tanaro a secret. I wonder why? These Conqueror's fighters would soon (a generation later) gear up for a conquering of Jerusalem; the last think they wanted the Vatican to know was that they were linked by marriage to an area of Italy where lines of the chief priests spread out. The earliest Vatican must have known a little on this topic.

The idea here is that the Sinclairs at the root of the Conqueror were involved with the Nith-river Geds, and may thus have provided Rainier of Montferrat (beside Savoy). As the Raines are said to be from "ragin," note that the father of Rollo Claro, and the brother of Malahule of More, was RAGNvald of More. Wait until you see the Candida term of the Geds, for Candida's of Savoy were linked to Sinclairs.

As I traced the black-on-white lions of the Raines' to Rainier/Renier of Montferrat, note that the same-colored lions are in the Nith/Naught Coat.

Rainier married a woman who had already mothered Adelaide of Savoy = Adelaide of Maurienne (or "Moriana" to Italians), perhaps a Varro Murena liner. In fact, as MontMORENcys were just identified as Murena's, Adelaide married Matthieu I of Montmorency. Thus, the Maurienne location is suspect from the line of Aulus Terentius Varro Murena.

The interesting thing about Matthieu is that the Nitts/Naughts use the checks also of Italian Massi's/Mattis' showing a slew of Matthew-like terms. For readers just jumping into this update, the Caiaphas line of the Chappes kind is highly suspect in Montmorency. Modane is in the province of Moriana. There is a Matthieu surname (Burgundy) that will be linked with the Mosca surname at the end of this update, when the Mosca leopard is found to be of a Shevas variation of the Shaw bloodline.

The Geddes article goes on: "In the ebb and flow of tribal warfare Cumbria - a kingdom formed in the upper Clyde valley - spread its power to the western sea, cutting off the Scots of Galloway from direct contact with the Scots of Scotia, as the area they occupied north of the Clyde estuary had come to be called." While I see Pendragon in Cumbria, Arthurian myth has the beginnings of king Arthur in Cornwall, where Pendragons and Geddys/Gideons were first found. The Geddes article denies that the Geddys/Gideons are a branch of Geddes. For me, it looks rather likely. <

It is remarkable that for many generations, perhaps thirty, the Geddes stock produced no man of such outstanding ability as to force his way on to the pages of history. Reivers and cattle-lifters they were [Arthurian myth would have you believe that they were gentlemen, worthy of a lovely maiden's affections]; and so they remained until the day came when neither Scotland nor England could tolerate them any longer. Then came dispersal, which scattered them over Scotland and even parts of England...Those finding refuge in England concealed their identity by adopting as their family name one of two variants of the Latin word for "Pike" (lucitus) Luce or Lucy; or, in plain English, "Pike." {nb. "Lucas" has now been added to give us a third surname variant.}

It turns out that the Lucas term is closest to the one, "Lucius," from which they were derived. It can't be coincidental that Lacys use a purple lion; it suggests that the Gaetuli Numidians were responsible for the Luce-related Geds. If Pictland had no purple symbolism, than I gather that the dye of the Gaetuli never made a splash in Scotland, which, by the way, was also called, Alba, at the time of the Geds. There is no British Alba surname, but the Stewart-related Albanys, first found in Shropshire, use the lion of Numidian Massins/Masons.

The fleur-de-lys will be discovered, in this update, to be founded by Luce's proper. For me, this links very fundamentally to the fleur-de-lys in the German Alba Coat. As the swan in the Italian Alba Coat links to Sion/Sitten, it's not likely coincidental that the German Alba's (Alsace) have a vertically-split Shield in the colors of the same in the Arms of Sion/Sitten. In this update, it will become compelling to either equate or associate "Gaet" with Seatons/Sittens and similar others, thus begging the question of whether Ged elements at Montferrat were at least co-founders of the Sitten name of the city. The founders are said to be a SEDuna peoples that could conceivably have been from a Ged clan out of Montferrat. As one should interpret the German Alba's as a Luce line to / from Sitten, shouldn't we expect Geds there too?

The problem with identifying the Seduna with Geds / Gaetuli / Guidi is that Sitten no longer appears to be named by Sadducee lines. However, it's feasible that the land of Gaetuli was named by Sittaceni. I'm going to need to do battle with this problem, wresting to hash out the reality. A shared Gaetuli ancestry with Sadducee elements expected at the Setta valley of the Guidi theater can explain why there is an Annan river at the Nith theater. I've read that chief priest Annas/Ananus was "Hanan" to the Hebrews, and then the Hanan Coat is a quartered Shield in colors reversed to the quartered Shield of Says who are in-turn in the colors of the Seatons/Sittens, the latter said to be from a town named "Say." This could trace the Hanan surname with the Seatons to the Annan river, smack beside the Gaetuli-suspect Geds.

The Revelation harlot is dressed in both scarlet and purple. The Greek term for "scarlet" used in Revelation is "kokkinon," the "on" being a suffix and leaving "kikkon" as the root. The Soducena lived on the shores of lake Sevan (traces to the swan line at Liguria and Sitten), as did the Gugars that named that lake after themselves at one point. The Gugars can be seen on the map at Gogarene. I say that the Cycnus swan line of Liguria was code for Kikones once living off the Hebros river. You can sense from the Hebros term that Kikones may have included a Soducena tribe that became the Sadducees, and it just so happens that there was a Sithone tribe of Edones (near the Hebros) while Edones were ruled by a mythical Lycurgus that should trace to "Liguria."

In this picture, the Revelation harlot, revealed in the last verse of Revelation 17 to depict the kings of Rome, is linked to a Gaetuli-purple element, and so this argues on behalf of a Gaetuli relationship with the Sadducees, wherefore the mystery of the Revelation harlot must be that she was a Roman-Sadducee merger. Later in this update, you will see why Luce's could / should trace to Lycians, who may have named Ligurians.

The Sittaceni lived at lake Maeotis along with a Toreatae peoples that I thought should be represented in the red roundels of heraldry, called "torteaux." It just so happens that the Geddys/Gideons use torteaux. "Gideon" is the makings nearly of "Seduna." The Kitten/Keaton/Keton surname, suspect as a hard-C version of Seatons/Setons, was first found in Leicestershire, where the Legro river flows that is from swan-line Ligurians. Ask the swan in the Leicester-surname Crest. There was a Kittim nation in olden days, thought by some to be from Kition of Cyprus, and some equated Kittim with Romans. Was Kittim a branch of Sittaceni?

JUST FOUND. While the Legro is also the Soar river, English Soars use the quartered Shield of the Says (!!) along with the blue-on-gold lion used by Massins/Masons / Albany's! That tends to associate Seaton lines, as expected, with the Ligurian swan.

The article goes on to say that the Geds fled to Eriboll, home of the Mackays, and that Geds merged with the armies of Mackays. The writer makes it sound as though the Geddes happened upon Mackay strangers when, in likely fact, they were related as closely to Mackays as the Gaetuli to Massena's / Maecenas. Again, "Eriboll" is much like "Awraba" (the Irish have been known to massacre words, which is probably the explanation for native Americans giving up the writing words), which, if I recall correctly, is where the Gaetuli lived. Why should Geddes happen to be in Mackay camps? Ask the Sadducee-based Maccabees.

Seeking a surname from "Eriboll," we find Irvings/Erwins (holly) first found in Dumfries. Now that is simply amazing. I had not yet know that when I mentioned the native Americans above. Edward Irving was the first / head pastor of the Catholic Apostolic Church, founded in the same year (1830) as the Mormon church. I've read that Irving's church had communications with the Mormons. Mormons are based on a religion claiming that native Americans were from old Hebrews of Israel. I consistently found that Massey liners -- Amazons from north-Africa -- were a large part of native-American populations. Without any thought of that, I traced "Drummond/Tremond" to the Amazon river, the THERModon, and so note that the Mormon church was founded by the money bags of one Henry Drummond, banker.

Now watch the Irvings trace to the Geddes, no surprise. We could start with the LACEssit motto term of Irish Irvings, and if we're wondering whether the "sit" buried in that term is for Seatons/Sittens, the answer is likely, yes. For, the "IMPune" motto term of the same Irvings suggests a look at the Imp(y)s, who use the black leopard face of the KEATONs, as well as three crescents in the colors of the SEATON crescents. Just like that, we have clinched the Keaton - Seaton relationship while tracing both to the Eriboll line of Irvings that was merged with the Luce-branch Geddes, of no surprise because Geddes lived at Eriboll. Imps were first found in the same place (Essex) as Vere's.

I was going to say that we should keep eyes peeled for why Nicholas de Vere von Drakenberg traced mythical Melusine (representation of the Khazaro-Byzantine wife of a Varangian) to early Scots. He traced her to Avalon, in fact, before she supposedly founded the first count of Anjou. I identified her as the mermaid in the Massin/Mason and Moray Crest, which has a green mirror in her hand. It was eventually realized that the mirror was for the Mire/Mireux surname, first found in Anjou. But here I can be more sure that Melusine was equated by de Vere with the Nith-river clans because Mire's/Mireux's showed (until recently) the three bunches of Irving holly exactly. Houseofnames went and changed the Mire-Mireux design recently; the Mire/Mireux symbol is now a "green myrtle bush."

Houseofnames may have changed the design because I traced the holly symbol to lines of Adolph Hitler in Glasgow. If I recall correctly, Adolph's nephew (renamed himself William Stuart-Houston to hide his Hitler surname), whose mother was a Glassl surname, had somehow (I can't recall because my brain is over-stacked with information) been linked to a family using holly. I was working on that project as part of the online revelation that president George H. W. Bush was a Nazi operative inside the United States. I pointed out that Maxwells use a "holly bush" as part-code for Bush's. We here find that Mire's/Mireux, who use holly too, likewise use a "bush."

Melissena Rangabe (the Khazaro-Byzantine) was not mythical. Mythical Melusine was a dragon woman with a mother, "Pressina," though I've seen it spelled differently. I deciphered that term as code for Melusine roots in Prussia before finding that German Mire's were first found in Prussia. German Mire's could therefore be using the Ferrari lion and Panico oak tree. The blonde in the other German Mire Coat may be a lovelier form of the blonde mermaid, though the blonde hair could itself be code for a blonde line such as the Budini > Boyds. There are countless blonde lines, but blonde hair may have become an heraldic symbol of Budini because Herodotus pointed out their light hair. The Boyd write-up claims that the surname was named after "buidhe" i.e. their yellow hair. It is possible, however, that the Budini named "buidhe."

Bude's were first found in the same place as Vere's. There's a Varangian reason.

As Mire's are also "Meier/Meyer," and as Mayer Rothschild traces to Hungarians (= Magyars), I would guess that Mire's were from "Magyar." The Geddes use a "majora" motto term for the Majors/Magors, said to be "Mayer" in the old days.

German Mire's were in Prussia. More specifically, I traced Melusine to LUZICa = Lusatia, a part of Prussia, because it's known that Melusine was code for the Melusines peoples of LUSIGnan, near Anjou. In other words she was a two-branch family, with a third branch in the Nith river, I now learn. In that picture, she was the Varro merger with Guido elements.

English Bude's are colors reversed from Geddy/Gideons, and the latter were first found in the same place (Cornwall) as Welsh Bude's. I traced Rothchilds (use five arrows connected at their middle; see online) to Hungarians because the latter were called On-Ogur, said to mean "ten arrows / ten tribes." It evokes American natives, and Rothschilds were "Jewish." I have maintained that surnames descending from the three tribes of Kabars (amongst the seven tribes of Magyars) should be found using three arrows. For example, the Inger/Ender surname, first found in Cornwall, uses three arrows...which may suggest that Inger, Melissena's husband, was a Kabar. Somewhere in the Cornwall peninsula, there is a Bude location.

Welsh Bude's use three arrows connected at their middle, meaning that the Budini of the Cornwall theater appear linked to Inger the Varangian, of no surprise because the Budini are located by Herodotus near Kiev, where Inger likely stemmed out of (he was part of the "Varangian guard" in Byzantium at a time when Byzantium made some alliance with Kiev's Varangians). Melissena (from Khazar royals) was probably at least one Kabar element in this picture, for Kabars were from Khazars.

When one enters "Rothschild" at houseofnames, an eight-pointed star comes up, seen in the Welsh Bude Crest too. It's in the colors of the Bute/Butt estoiles, and then German Butts/Bute's use a fish, suspect now with the Geddes fish. You will see later why the Butts/Butts should be using the Geddes / Luce fish.

The area to the west of the Nith / Clyde river is Peebleshire, where the Bowers were first found who use five bunched arrows connected at their middle, and this is the Rothschild symbol too because the first Rothschild (Mayer mentioned above) was born with a Bauer surname. Both the Bauers and Bowers use green Shields, as do the English Bude's.

It begins to appear here that old Ged thieves have traced to the biggest thieves the world knows today. The bottomless-stomach Rothschilds, who never have enough money until they rule the universe.

Welsh Bude's use a yellow dancette, though the write-up doesn't trace to "buidhe," but rather to a "beetle." What can we trust in heraldic write-ups? Know to decipher their craftiness. The Beetle/Bedwell surname (Bedfordshire) traces to "byde," a "tub" haha, and the Beetle/Bedwell Coat is an hourglass Shield tracing to Trypillians of the Ukraine. Thus, Beetle's can be part of the Guido line. It's that theme mentioned in the last update, where the Budini named the Bodencus = Po river, and engaged the lines from Israel's priests.

Later, you will see compelling evidence that Luce's founded / named Losinj, wherefore the lozenges in the Beetle Coat are important to that end. I had suggestively traced Budini to a Saraca branch at Rijeka, near Losinj. It blew my mind to discover (below) that the father of the Luce's was nicknamed after Saraka's. It was explosive with revelations on the pre-Templar parts of the dragon cult.

Several updates ago, Guido Guerra was traced heraldic ally by other means to the Picts as they founded Scots. It sounded ridiculous because every historian traces Scots to the Hebrides, and from there to Ireland. But I stuck to my claim because heraldry speaks louder than the things historians are taught to know. What you are reading here should be in every history classroom. Italians from the chief priests of Israel were in Scotland. It's not at all lunacy if we restrict those Italians to the leadership positions of British clans...where Romans were using that tactic to subdue the British continent. But, eventually, the leaders have family, and the Italian factor becomes a people group. They might get rejected by the locals because they are outsiders, and they might return disfavor upon the locals, or become vagabonds.

The Vere motto term, "nihil," is for the Nihill/Neil surname, and then you just read that Geddes were from the sons of one marauder-carouser, no-good, thieving Niall. Add it up, and it's no wonder that the heraldry people don't want us to know where they truly trace. The Neils use a fish, and a lion in the colors of the Guido lion. It's the Varro line to Guido's, isn't it?

Montmorency had their outfit in Eure-et-Loir, the Arms of which are three red-on-white chevrons, used also by French Luce's. This is how Luce's are part of the "water bouget" families that includes the Waters using the same three chevrons. Water bougets are even used by the Roses that Luce's merged with. These Rose's are in the same colors as the Bugs, who likewise use water bougets, and who trace to the Bug river, the theater between the Trypillians and Budini.

As the Bugs and Rose's are in the colors of the proto-Varangian Varns, it can be gleaned that Rose's were of the Varangian RUS. Why were the Varni and Rose's at NAIRn? We should ask the Neuri on the Bug river, a branch of which I think named Nerthus, the goddess of the Varni. The Bugs were first found in NOTTingham, a place with a name like the Nitts/Naughts that trace to "Nith." As such, we should expect Bug-river clans at Nairn, for the Geds of the Nith moved to Nairn. Alternatively, the Rose's of Nairn may have been named by Roxolani from the Ukraine.

So, with Geddes elements tracing to Eure-et-Loir, let me tell you that, in neighboring Eure, there is a Pasci location to which the Pascals (Levi lions) trace themselves, and they come up as "Pass," while the write-up of English Luce's traces to a Passeis location (Normandy). The Pass/Pascal surname was first found in the same place (Essex) as Irving-related Imps (Seaton-Keaton liners) in cahoots with the Geddes theater at Eriboll. And that's where one may point out the purple Shield of Pace's as evidence that purple heraldry really is a Ged symbol from the Gaetuli. Pace's are said to be from Pacy sur Eure, at Evreux, smack beside the Ile-de-France theater where the Levi surname was first found, as well as where the Lys surname was first found that will be discovered below to be a Luce branch (this paragraph is an addition during the proof read).

Perhaps it's my computer screen not sending the right color, but the "bearded man from the waist up" in the Pass/Pascal Crest looks like he's wearing a purplish hue. Can you guess what "bearded" is code for? The answer is in the Bard boar, colors reversed to the Rose boar. Later, before this paragraph was written, the Rose boar was found in the Lusk/Luss Coat, wherefore we have just found another Luce branch that Geddes don't want us to acknowledge let alone tell others about.

Have you noted how "Pace" smacks of "Pike"? If the Geddes' were not named after "ged," yet if "ged" means "pike," by what coincidence do we find Pace's in the Geddes family? Are we being lied to about Geddes origins? If I recall correctly, the Geddes' did not show a Coat at houseofnames for some years. I was suspicious then. Why were they hiding their fish? They are only fish, and they don't look obscene.

These events belong, by date, to the middle of the fifteenth-century [time of Clovis]; and, be it noted, from that day to this there has been no blood connection between the Geddeses who landed at Eriboll and any others of their name or its variants [why did he write that load of rubbish?]. But all the Geddeses - and, so far as it is known, also those who call themselves Luce, Lucy and Pike - have retained in their crests, their arms and their badges the device of the Ged, either as a whole fish, swimming free, or its head; or, as in the arms of Geddes, as supporters of the central shield. The free-swimming Ged is, as a badge, much older than heraldry, and has nothing to do with noble birth.

Was the writer wishing to keep a lid on Geddes kin when he says that we shouldn't bother to seek them because they don't exist by similar names? The Spanish Luz/Lucio Coat uses purple lions, a sure sign now that the Gaetuli are involved.

The Luce terms strike me as terms from Lusatia and Lusignan. But Lucius Licinius Murena also comes to mind, adopted by Aulus Terentius Varro. That's of obvious importance where mythical Melusine of the Varro > Vere line traces to Lusatia but is known to represent the Melusines of Lusignan. German Luz'/Lucius' even have a Guerra-Coat look to them.

The Naughtens/Nottens/Nortons were first found in Argyllshire, and can therefore relate to Nitts/Naughts. Naughtens use the Murena castle in Murena-castle red.

Nottings/Nutts were first found in the same place (Gloucestershire) as the Dreux's from a Dreux location smack beside Evreux, where purple Pace's lived. This trace to the Dreux theater begs the question of why the Rose's of Nairn should use a "true" motto code for the Trew surname, like the Drew variation of Dreux's. Rose's share a boar with Vere's.

As with the Glaze's and Pilate's, Nottings/Nutts use three white-on-blue pheons. Glaze's trace to Gulussa-branch Numidians, and to a Dougga location of Numidia. I neglected to mention that English Irvings use "Nemo" in their motto. The Notting/Nutt Shield is divided into six sections, as is the Lucius/Luz and Irp/Yrp Coat. The Irps are a second surname (along with Irvings) that could link to the "Eriboll" term; as such they should be traced to Numidians. Thus, "Eriboll" could very well trace to "Awraba." Castle Douglass is vey near the Nith, which for me suggests Dogga's Numidians.

The five-pointed crown of the Irish Irvings is rare, but used by German Bessens, kin of Bessins/Beastons and Bistons, all tracing to the ancient Bistones of Cyrene, worshipers of Ares in the form of their erect-sword deity. In short, the Irvings / namers of Eriboll are tracing to Bistones, and yet I've shown evidence toward the link of "Ares" to "Aures," the alternative name of Awraba. As Awraba was the home of Gaetuli, the "purple" look of "Eriboll" is intriguing. Did "Awraba come to mean "purple"?

Later in this update, I show evidence that the Awraba version may have been named by Ares' mate, Aphrodite. She was made born in Cyprus, an island that same say was the Biblical Kittim due to its Kition location. And so I'll remind you that Kittens/Keatons, suspect with the Gaetuli, are honored in the Imp Crest while Imps are honored in a motto term of the Irvings who trace to Bistons / Awraba. Then, the quartered Shield of Seaton-related Says is colors reversed from the quartered Shield of English Bessens, who use the quartered colors of Masseys who trace to the Meshwesh, who called Cyrene home. The Imps are likely the Imperi namers of Imperia at Liguria, human-sacrificers in cahoots with Carthaginians, who were Phoenicians, who were also the makers of purple / scarlet dyes, or so they tell us online.

If you would like to shorten all that, the Seaton namers of Sion/Sitten were Kition elements to the Gaetuli theater. But if we wish to maintain that Sitten was named by Sadducees of the Sittaceni kind out of Maeotis, then we need to find a way to trace Aphrodite's ancestry there. We simply draw a line from Cyprus to Maeotis, which goes through Cilicia first, then Colchis second, and I say that Cilicia was named by Colchians. Then, as Aphrodite must always be a goddess of a Hebrew peoples on the Euphrates and its Khabur/Habur tributary, she likely traces to the Iberi in the Caucasus.

The Iberi lived in the middle of the land of Scythians, and some of these Scythians thronged along to Po river. The Argo ship, after it left Colchis, was even said to sail up the Po. And that line was Iason / Aeson who I say named Esus. It can be gleaned that this line of Scythians named Assisi after Azov, the alternative name of lake Maeotis. The Cimmerians of Azov are often said to be the founders of Cumber-like terms so that we can trace them to Umbria, location of Assisi. The Cimmerians lived in what was called, Crimea. And that term can trace to "Cremona." I'm guessing...because it can explain how the Sittaceni of Maeotis can trace to the Setta valley (Reno river). But, also, there is a Ciconia location at Orvieto of Umbria, and that suggests the swan-line Caucasians at the lake where we find the Soducena location. In this picture, the Kikones are suspect with the purple color that goes also to the Gaetuli, suspect from Sittaceni / Soducena elements.

Moreover, there was a mythical Iasion/Iasius of Samothrace, founder of the Kypris-related Kabeiri cult, and brother to Dardanus, co-founder of the Trojans with the daughter of mythical Teucer, smacking of "Togarmah," a Cimmerian-suspect peoples. Therefore, let me re-quote: Strabo describes [the Sindi] as living along the Palus Maeotis, and among the Maeotae, Dandarii, Toreatae,...Sittaceni.... By what coincidence do the Dandarii smack of "Dardanus"? I had traced the Says and Seatons to Sestus, beside the Dardanus area (a real place) of Mysia, but I could never prove that trace, though Masseys are from Mysians while Says are likely using a version of the Massey Shield.

Beside Dardanus is an Abydos location to which the Budini may trace. We find two "byde" motto terms in this update, but also a "BYDdand" term from Gordons, the special sept of Geddes. "ByDAND" can be part-code for "Dandari" elements. This discussion is part of an insert during the proof read. Before doing this, you will see, late in the update, that I traced the TORToise of the Goddy/Goddie branch of Geddes to the TORToise of the Caucasia-suspect Chaucers, and yet I neglected to add that the tortoise should be code for lines from the Toreatae. And here, only while writing this insert, it was found that a Dan surname that comes up as Dand uses the green cinquefoils of the Goddy's/Goodie's!!! It's undeniable that Masons were hard at work creating symbols for their favorite Caucasian lines.

Reminder: Geddys/Gideons (in Goody/Goodie colors) use TORteaux. Thus, Geddes are tracing excellently to the Sittaceni theater. But don't tell anyone. Let's keep the truth a secret. Let's tell the world that Masons are from Heaven. After all, they liked mountains, and the Gogi even named themselves after sky. In Revelation, we find that the backdrop to the Throne Room of God is a blue color that I'll assume is code for the color of the sky which God loved and appointed to represent his glory from the Creation. You can find online that "Gog" means "blue" as well as "sky." Revelation, in the latter chapters that discusses the Throne Room (probably not real, but only symbolism), we find that Gog and Magog come to rule the entire planet (a reality), and devise one last plot to destroy God's kingdom of earth. It's the old picture of Isaiah 14, where satan wants to take God's place, to sit at the tops of the clouds, over the earth. And so Revelation symbolism is sending the dragon cult a dire message, that the blue-sky symbol of Gog will belong to the Creator after all. Gog shall not prevail. The word Gog sounds like something that gets stuck in your throat.

There is in heraldry a "per pale" or "perpale" symbol that has struck me as a "purple" code. "Perpale" refers to a Shield split vertically in half, like the Arms of Sion/Sitten, for example, which are split in the colors of the perpale Shield of Chaucers. Or, see the perpale colors of Pikes, who use trefoils too. This is Gog at the false Sion, now in the Swiss Alps...but it's always the same sky, and it doesn't belong to Gog, not even in the Aures mountains.

The Glass' are also tracing to Gulussa Numidians, and Gleasons were first found in Tipperary, what is now tracing to Tipaza of Numidia. Nith clans can be expected on that Clyde river to Glasgow, wherefore it now appears that the Luce bloodline is in the "LUCtor" motto of the Glass surname.

As I claim the fleur-de-lys was a fish, note that, instead of the three pike of the Luce/Lucy Coat, the Glass Coat uses one fleur-de-lys. Actually, I view the fleur-de-lys as three fish, one upright and straight, and two curved ones. It's informing me that "LUCE" and "LUS" are fundamental with "LYS." Ask whether if "Lally" is a La Lys term.

Carolingians, they say, emerged from the Belgian city of Liege. I have it from an old update that the Lys river had taken that name:

Since the Dover surname was first found in Bedford, where the Ligan/Lygan river became the Leye and finally the Lee, I should mention what I learned this morning [April 2009], that the Lys river in Artois once had similar spellings. A French webpage on Lisbourg (at the head waters of the Lys) says: Etymologie : sources de la Lys. Anciennement 'Liegesborth'


That now brings Lis terms into the Luce fold, if indeed the Luce's were responsible for "Lys." Plus, by what coincidence is the mermaid in the Glass Crest a reflection of mythical Melusine, who was given a fish tail after she started with a dragon tail? Melusine is from LUSignan and LUSatia? Therefore, somehow, those citys are Luce lines, and, indeed, the single fleur-de-lys that is the chief Glass-Coat symbol, reveals that Lys' were also Luce lines. Is that not something, for those who wish to understand Merovingian roots? Can we add "Liege" the Luce-family lines?

Here is another quote from that old update: "Vollant de Berneville acquired the estate of Lisbourg in 1692." As that's the Lisbourg of the Lys river, and as they say that Pollocks (Renfrewshire, beside Glasgow) are desceneded from Clovis, by what coincidence is there a Bernys location in Renfew? I had traced Pollocks (with heraldic evidence) to a merger of the Clovis family with emperor Valentinian. That is, I identified Pollocks from Valentinian, whom "VOLLANT de Berneville smacks of. Pollocks share a hunting horn with the Berns/Burns, and the latter, who come up as "Bernys," show a water bouget.

Later in the update, it's discovered that the Luce line settled Croatian areas, especially Losinj, an island near a Pula location (Istria) that uses a version of the Pollock Coat. Jewish Pollocks and Valents/Valentino's share a white-on-red bend, and the latter were first found in Vicenza (nor far from Istria), near the city of Padua, the area where Merovingian ancestry must trace. Vicenza is moreover near Verona, and then French Verona's/Vairs/Vers, first found in the same place as Lys', use a fish! "VICENza" therefore looks like a PICENi term that should link to the Scottish Pike/Picken surname (Ayrshire). In addition, the Verona Coat shares trefoils with English Pike's.

I think all of that is absolute evidence that Luce's and Lys' are from one mother trunk. we will see her as Julia Domna of the Bassianus line using besants as code, the symbol of English Bernys'. You may recall the recent arguments that Berns are of Bars of the Bar-le-Duc line using two curved fish (in the colors of the Verona / Saraka fish) that I think were added to a single fish in pale (Luce symbol) to create the "lily" of the Lys flower.

I have just found another "coincidence" not know while writing the above. As Geds lived off the Solway waters, by what coincidence does the Solway motto use "voluntas," as per "Vollant de Berneville at Lisbourg? Pass'/Pascal's use an "eagle volant." The Solway/Salwey saltire is in the gold-on-black colors of the Bernys double fesses's.

The gold Solway saltire could therefore be the Pike and Pollock saltire. One way to explain how Valentinian elements got to the Solway sea is by having Valentinian lines link back a couple of centuries to Julia Domna, the mother of the Luce's.

As the Pike's use the same perpale Shield as in the Arms of Sion/Sitten, the Salwey variation of Solways may indicate the Sale/Salette surname that I see "saltire" originating in. The Sale's share a black Shield with Solways/Salweys, and use fleur-de-lys in the colors of the Brown fleur. Browns were lumped into the Barone / Varone lines that should be a part of the Bars. It has been assumed for a couple of years that the Bar fish is from a Bar location down the Illyrian coast, but more recently is was gleaned that the fish originated at Kotor because a mythical KODRos of Athens had a fish symbol. Thus, that symbol went to Saraca's because they lived in Kotor. Kodros also had a boar symbol, one used by Pollocks. I am certain, no guff, no games, no sloppiness or carelessness, no exaggeration, that Kodros was named after lines from Keturah, the other wife of Biblical Abraham (Genesis 25).

I traced Keturah / Kotor lines to Cutters using the Shield-and-Chief color combination of Saluzzo's in colors reversed, wherefore the Salwey variation of Solways can trace to Salyes / Salassi Ligures, who are now expected as the namers of Salins/Salens in Sion/Sitten. Thus, Sion elements are tracing to the Solway sea, where we find Annandale! This is completely shocking.

Reminder: the Seaton-related Says should be in the Soar Coat named after the Soar river that was also the Legro. We have the problem of Legro-like terms linking to Lys lines suspect from a Luce mother that Ligurians themselves, founded at a LACYdon location, look like they were founded by Luce's. Is must be wrong to trace Ligurians back to Lycians. Ligurians truly look like Luce lines, and yet Lacydon predates Julia Domna by 1,000 years. The alternative is that the surname that named the Luce's, which you will see below, was from Lacydon's Ligurians. You will see that this surname means "light," and so note the "lumen" motto term of Beattie's/Beatys/Bettys (key symbol), for there is a Dalbeattie location (beside Castle Douglas) off the Nith.

It reminds us of the Budini-suspect Beetle's, first found in the same place (BEDford) as the Ligan / Lygan / Leye Lee river. Like the Seatons and Douglas', Beetle's are Flemings because they use a castle in flames. The castle is on top of the rock shown until recently by Roques/Rocks, and this Rock line traced, in my current opinion, to Roxolani Alans in the Ukraine, where the hourGLASS Shield of Beetle's also traced. Thus, we are tracing Budini and Roxolani Scythians to the Solway firth, but Roxolani trace also to the rock in the Arms of Rijeka/Reka (northern Istria), where the two-headed eagle of Maxwells traces who were first found in ROXburghshire, where Beattie's/Beatys were first found.

As these Scythians were at Rijeka, we could trace them also to Padua, where the Budini named the Bodencus, and from there we could trace them to the Schio river that passes by Vicenza, for the name of that river smacks of the Skit/Skeoch surname using another hourglass Shield (and hearts). The Scythian-like Skit surname is unexpectedly listed with the Skeoch surname because Skeochs were merged with Scheds/ suspect as Seatons of the Shedded/Shed kind. Sheddens were first found in Shawia-honoring Ayrshire, where the Skits/Skeoch were first found.

Let's go back to the Bernys location in Renfrewshire, for there is yet another purple lion in the Wren Coat. The Wrens use ravens, the Ralph-surname symbol, in the colors of the Raines lions, and are said to be from Ralph de Raines, who was granted lands by the duke of ALBAny. As Wrens are moreover said to be from Rennes, we can be more sure that Rennes is a term linking to Rainier, who ruled Montferrat, where we find an Alba location. The German Alba fleur-de-lys, just one of them, is in the colors of the Glasgow fleur-de-lys, and Glasgow is at Renfrewshire. You can sense here a link to Guido Guerra to the Wrens, explaining the purple lions as code for the Gaetuli who named the Guidi. According to heraldry, the Guidi are expected with Schio elements, and so you just wait and see, further below, how the father of both the Geddes and the Luce's link to the Gards, for "Schio is a town and comune in the province of Vicenza (region of Veneto, northern Italy) situated North of Vicenza and East of the Lake of Garda."

We then find that Gards use the Shield-and-Chief color combination of the Wrens. To prove that the Skits and Scheds trace to Schio, the Sheddens/Sheds and English Gards share a white-on-blue chevron. To support the idea that Sheddens are a branch of Seatons, the Alba Coat has it's fleur on a perpale Shield identical to the one in the Arms of Sion/Sitten. The hourglass Shield of Skits/Skeochs, in the same colors, can be considered as a version of this perpale design. "Perpale" is, in the meantime, suspect as a symbol of Seaton-suspect Gaetuli. As the Pikes use the Sion perpale too, it is very likely that they trace to the naming on VICenza. "Viking" may have originated here, for there is a Vexen location beside Evreux, and the latter city traces to Abreu's, first found in Padua. There is an Aste location at Schio, reflecting the Asti location at Alba / Langhe. It's telling me that the Strange's of Forum Allieni were in Schio.

There is a Trentia location at Schio, and then Trents use a perpale in colors reversed to the Pike's. There is a Rocco location in Schio, and then the Chadock Crest is the footless-martin design of Rutherfords, first found in ROXburghshire. Thus, this Rocco location is suspect with Rijeka elements as they linked to Roxburghshire.

Of some interest, the Ligan river in Bedford is a term that gets a LINGen surname smacking of Langhe at the Alba area of Montferrat. In any case, while the Valent(ino) surname was first found at Vicenza, the Velens/Valence surname uses eight footless martlets as a Shield border feature, which feature was focused upon in the last update as belonging to Saddocks/Sedwicks, Chadwicks, and Chadocks, all suspect with Sadducee lines expected with "Sitten" and "Setta." We can, therefore, view the shield-on-Shield of Chadocks as the same one used by Geddes, for they are identical colors while showing the same size for the inner shield or square.

As Placentia uses a square in its arms, I traced the squirrels in the Valent Coat to Placentia, for the Square and Squirrel surnames bring up the same Coat (showing a squirrel). Besides, I had traced Pollocks to Placentia by other means, especially via half the Pollock saltire appearing in the Spanish Pelaiz/PAEZ/Baez Coat (Placentia is also "PIACenza"). This "coincidence" asks whether "Pollock/Polk" is related to "PLACEntia." The Place-surname write-up trace's to "plais," and used a perpale Shield colors reversed to the same in the Arms of Liege.

In the meantime, I traced Geddes to Placentia based on their shield within a Shield, and their "Capta" motto term suggesting Caiaphas lines.

"Piacenza and Cremona were founded as a Roman military colonies in May 218 BC. " That's when general Scipio retreated from war with the remnants of his army. The cities were thus military barracks, we may assume, but the point here is the likeliness of the purple lions of Skiptons and Wrens connecting, for Wrens go to Renfrew, where we can expect the Placentia ancestry of Pollocks. The lion in the Place Coat should be the Dreux lion because Drakes and Place's share a hand holding an axe in Crest. The Drake's use "CAPTAt" in their motto, as further evidence that the Place lion is the Dreux lion. It tends to trace Placentia elements to Dreux, beside Evreux, and near the Lys / Levi / Chappes' and Verona's.

In that case, the Vexin beside Evreux can trace to "VICENzia. But with Vere's of the Drake kind were involved in this, the Varangian VIKINgs should apply. Reminder: the Nibelungs were in both the Vexin and in Friesland, and the latter country is smack beside Wieringen, home of the first Varangians proper. Wikipedia has what looks like a wildly-ludicrous claim for the derivation of "Vexin," an area that covered La Falaise and some part of Ile-de-France. Wikipedia was likely named after "Wicca," the witchcraft term that likely came from a Vicks / Wicks variation of "Viking." The Wick Crest axe is similar to the one in the Place Crest. The "nihilo" motto term of Wicks suggests the Vere's and the Niall character at the roof of the Geds.

As evidence that the lines of the Israeli priests went to the proto-Varangian Varni, the Varni lived at Schwerin, and then the Schwerin Coat (Mecklenburg) is split in two (horizontally) in the colors of the vertically-split Place Shield.

The Luce link to Lusatia is a hard nut to crack at this point. It should be added that their is a lamp in the Arms of Liege, though one Arms (perpale in Place colors) shown at Wikipedia has no symbols, ditto for the same-colored Schwerin Coat. The lamp/illumination concept can be gleaned in LUXembourg, which uses blue-and-white horizontal stripes/bars, the symbol also of the Arms of Lusatia...and of the Valens/Valence Coat. One could get the impression that the Illuminati was from this Luce entity.

The Rose's of Geddes affiliations are said to be Bosco's too, and then Italian Bosco's/Busca's, who named Busca in Piedmont, use half the Shield split horizontally (perfesse) in the colors of the Schwerin Shield. This argues for a Schwerin link to the Scherfs that birthed the George Bush's. The Bosco perfesse Shield shows a tree stump. Montferrat is in Piedmont. Scottish Bosco's use white pillars (topped with "tufts of grass") that must link to the same-colored column in the German Schore Coat.

I traced the Gewisse area of England, otherwise known as Wessex, to "Kwisa/Quies," a river in Lusatia. Thus, Saxons, who got to England about the time (400 AD) that this Geddes article speaks on, were either part Lusatians, or Lusatians were part Saxons. A migration of English Saxons to the Kwisa easily explains how the Lusatia term started from Luce's, but that expects a Luce merger with Saxons. Historians can have a lot of fun with that, but I don't have time. My job is to educate historians on the fundamentals of what heraldry and myth can reveal to them, hoping that some good historians will add to my work to expose the Illuminati for what they are too ashamed to reveal to us.

Saxons came out of the area where Angles and Varni originated at the time of Christ. It was thought in previous updates that the Varni were exactly from Varro elements as they evolved into the green-dragon Guerra's. Melusine was a green-dragon entity, judging by the color of the Glass mermaid. She must have been an aspect of Glaucus, the Glass bloodline, right?

The Notting/Nutt Crest has wings like the "Jewish" Glass Coat. It's therefore an interesting question as to whether "Gulussa" (grandson of king Massena) elements named GLOUCESter, where Nottings/Nutts were first found. In myth, Glaucus (a snake entity) loved Scylla, and Scylla was a wolf-monster at Messina, where king Massena should derive. I wonder, therefore, where Gulussa was named after Glaucus elements. Glaucus is said to mean green or blue-green after the color of the sea, and Glaucus was therefore made into a mermaid...which may explain why the Glass Crest is the Melusine mermaid. It's a neat little package, isn't it? Here's some medical symbolism applied to Glaucus for a reason:

According to Ovid, Glaucus began his life as a mortal fisherman living in the Boeotian city of Anthedon. He discovered by accident a magical herb which could bring the fish he caught back to life, and decided to try eating it. The herb made him immortal, but also caused him to grow fins instead of arms and a fish's tail instead of legs (though some versions say he simply became a merman), forcing him to dwell forever in the sea.

...Glaucus fell in love with the beautiful nymph Scylla and wanted her for his wife...

This Scylla is not portrayed at all like the wolf-monster, but myth writers change symbols at a whim, depending on the writers affections or animosities. Glaucus likely started out as a green snake because he was placed into a myth with a snake (I think it bit him on the hand). The Visconti's of Milan used a green snake in their beginnings, and then the Milan surname was first found on Messina. Hmm. In myth, Glaucus was made related to the snake of Asclepios (god of medicine), whose cult was at Messina because he represented Skala on Patmos as its people migrated to Scylla. Therefore, that answers to the Visconti snake. But why does it eat an infant? Why does the medical establishment today, using the Asclepios symbol, kill unborn children as one throws out the trash? It's because they are desperate trash disguised as humans. This sort of trash has been around for a long time. It uses abortion to safeguard against throngs of "unwanted" children born out of wedlock due to the sex-liberation movement that they themselves cherish. lf I just lost half the readers, I'll consider it a glass half full of the purest waters.

The article continues: "Glaucus seduced Ariadne as she was abandoned by Theseus on Dia (Naxos). Dionysus then fought Glaucus over Ariadne and overpowered him..." Whatever she represented on Crete, Dionysus took Ariadne to Lemnos, island of the SINTians, wherefore she is expected in the land of the Gaulish Lemovices who lived beside SANTones. Beside them both were the Pictones, wherefore the Ariadne people-group is expected to be the namer of DalRiada in the land of the Picts. Marcus Terentius Varro was born in Rieti.

Dumfries has been identified as a land of Edomites, as nutty as that sounds. The "Dum spero spiro" motto of Melusine-using Massins-Masons has been identified (by me lonely) as part-code for DUMfries and part code for the Spree-river clans (includes the Spears, first found in Renfrew)...from the Spree river of Lusatia. For new readers, let me repeat that the Timms/Times of Kent, where Massins/Masons (and Valens/Valence's) were first found with other Numidian elements, are honored in a "Deum Time" motto of a Moray Coat that houseofnames no longer shows. As the Moray Coat now showing shares the mermaid of the Massins/Masons, it tells us of a Timm-Mason-Moray connection to a Dum / Deum entity. As the mermaid is at times called a "Siren" (see mythical Sirens, pirate killers at sea), it reveals that the Dum / Deum terms are for the Timna-branch Edomites...that Timms/Time's represent. Timna, from Seir, was the wife of Eliphas, son of Esau. It's undeniable that the families under discussion, at the least, believed that they were from Esau, and they didn't mind at all be associated with the one God hates.

I now find that the Luce Coat is in the colors of the Oliphant Coat, important because that surname is from "Eliphas." Moreover, the Luce write-up traces to "Luce in Orne...near DOMfront, Normandy." As the French Masseys/Massa's use three stars in the colors of the same of Oliphants, the Massins / Masseys from Massena must have been one heavy-duty Edomite line. When I first wrote this paragraph, I didn't yet know that Luce's were born from Julia DOMna.

To link this Eliphas-Timna line all the more to the Glass / Luce bloodline, note that they use red Shields, first off, the color of Edom / Esau. Secondly, the Oliphants are traced in their write-up to Bothwell, the name a peoples of Bute, and then Glass' were first found in Buteshire. The Oliphants were also given (by Malcolm III) an ArBUTHnott location, what looks like a Bute merger with Nith-river elements. Bothwell is on the Clyde in Lanarkshire (Scottish mainland from Bute). Glasgow and DouGLAS are also in Lanarkshire, though Castle Douglas is off the Nith. Douglas'/DuGlass' appear to have named themselves in honor of Glass / Gulussa / Glaze elements (the Glaze Crest is a heart, the Douglas symbol); if correct, Dougga may have been named by Douglas', not vice versa. The reason that Douglas' use the Moray stars seems to be in this:

This [Bothwell] fortress belonged to Sir Andrew de Moray, who was fatally wounded at the Battle of Stirling Bridge in 1297.

It passed by marriage to the House of Douglas. The lordship was bestowed in 1487 on Patrick Hepburn, 3rd Lord Hailes, 1st Earl of Bothwell.

Hepburns had been fundamental to Childeric and Clovis, and here we find Hepburns at Bothwell, supporting my claim that Merovingians were on Avalon = Bute in the Arthurian period.

The Bothwell links to Moray explains why the Morays came to use the Glass mermaid, or vice-versa, showing that Glass' should indeed trace to Glasgow. The Bothwells are highly suspect from the Budini > Boyd line, and that may indicate that Budini had merged with Murat-named Khazars/Kabars on the Mures river of Transylvania, where I trace Morays. That merger is expected where the Szekely Transylvanians on the Mures claimed to be ancestral to Hungarians, and where the Budini named Buda(pest).

There is a Reghin location on the Mures that I trace to Ragnvald of More. Where "Ragn is a term tracing to the Raines,' and therefore to Rainier of Montferrat, we not only trace the Mures-river Kabars to Renfrew via the Wrens-branch Raines', but we suspect a Mures-river link to Montferrat, and that's where the house of Candida should come in, at Savoy. As the Geds had a Candida entity, it predicts that Candida (or "Candie") at Savoy was linked to the Guidi. The Candy surname is using white-on-red saltires as a version, likely, of the Savoy cross. There is consistency in al this, with the same links made over and over again by many methods...because the links were true.

Booths use a black boar which in the book of Enoch is said to be a symbol of Edom. How could Scotts have known to be descended directly from Timna and Eliphas? Were there some Esau-like terms that they knew of that could be tracked throughout history? Did they know what terms Seir elements traced to? Or was it due just to a romantic sense as per tracing to Herods?

The "Tout" motto term of Oliphants is not-so-secret code for the Touts/Toots using a small square in the Coat's corner with a crescent in Oliphant-crescent colors. This heraldic square is more-often called a "canton," but as the canton surname is also "CANDon," the house of Candida is suspect with that square, wherefore we can trace Candida elements to Placentia's square. If the heraldry masters were protecting the white-on-red star of the Annas surname, not allowing any family to use it unless they traced to Annas the high priest, then that consideration can be had when studying the same-colored stars in the Canton Chief. The Canton Coat (in Candy/Gandy colors) is a colors-reversed version of the Washington Coat. The three Washington-Chief stars are colors reversed from the three in the Canton Chief.

If the red-on-white stars of the Washingtons were protected by the heraldry masters because they too are integral to the line of Annas, then note how those stars are used by Glass' and Gleasons, as well as Glass-suspect Kyle's using the illumination symbol of CANDles. But as Kyle's use a version of the green coiled serpent of the Coles' (in Candy / Canton / Annas colors), first found in the same place as the Candys/Gandys, it looks excellent for tracing "Glaucus" and "Gulussa" to the naming of the COLapis river, beside the Maezaei that trace the Gulussa's Massena kin.

The Coles' use the colors and format of the Chills/Childs, Hebrons/Hepburns, and Tarents. I can't get into here, just trust that the Japodes on the Colapis traced to a merger of Benjamite Israelis with Meshwesh out of Tanis in Egypt, the remnants of whom married Jabesh-Gilead (see the story late in the book of Judges). In this story, there were elements of Bethlehem involved, a city overlooking Hebron, where the Luce's will trace later in this update. In short, the Jebusite-suspect Jabesh-ites named the Japodes on the Colapis after a long and winding migration through Peloponnesia.

Recall what was said above concerning close Geddes kin: "Scottish Bosco's use white pillars (topped with "tufts of grass") that must link to the same-colored column in the German Schore Coat. Let me add: the Schore column is surrounded / encoiled "by a green vine" that should be code for a green serpent, for the Coles Crest is "A Snake circling a marble pillar".

The Touts/Touts may trace to Tate's using six sections in their Shield, like the Irps/Yrps now tracing to the Eriboll region of the Geddes'. German HERBS/Harbs (many Bach-like endings) may apply to Eriboll elements, as they are in Nitt/Naught colors. That's important because I always link Jebusites (ancient Jerusalem) to Garebites from Jerusalem, and trace Garebites to Harbiye of Syria. Therefore, Garebites are tracing to the naming of Awraba and the Urbanus river if indeed "Eriboll" traces to those places. It is not consequently wrong to trace Ares to those places because he is from the Aras river passing by JEREVan, where I trace "Gareb." SODUCena was smack at the Jerevan theater, which is how I explain "ZEDEK," an early name of JERusalem, the latter term tracing, therefore, to "JERE(van)." My bet is that the "van" in "Jerevan" is from the Mus at Lake Van, the same that I trace to the Meshwesh of Tanis. Harbiye is in the pathway of the Orontes river known to be named after the Yervand dynasty from Jerevan. It was all ARMENian, and included mount Sion of HERMON.

As the Joseph garbs ought to be code for Garebites, we need to discover how Caiaphas lines trace to Garebites. Harveys were first found in the same place as Chappes'. The Josephs were first found in Maine, beside Perche, and then the two Perche chevrons are used by Garbys. The latter look like a branch of Peks/Pecks, thus tending to reveal the Pek-river origin of Herbs/Herbeks/Harbachs. It is therefore very important that Harbiye was also named, Daphne, for Payen elements from the Pek were first found in Dauphine. The Harveys use the colors and format of Payens, and a chief Payen Templar married the Chappes. Garbs/Garbee's use the Harvey Coat but with garbs in the colors of the Joseph garbs.

Herbs/Harbs (Swabia) use the talbot dog, important because Ranulf le Meschin married LUCY Taillebois. Sellicks, whom I've traced to "Silesia" (home of some Lusatians and partly at the Spree theater) use a form of the Talbot Coat, as well as a form of the Coat of Scotts who have been identified as Talbots. The Geddes article claims that the Scott surname was one of their septs in later times. Irps/Yrps were first found in Lincolnshire, home of Lucy Taillebois. Chances are, she was a Geddes liner.

Tate's may be a branch of Tattons (talbot dog) who themselves appear related to Spree's and Speers, using crescents in red and white that should relate to the white-on-red Oliphant / Tout crescents. Tattons were from Dunham Massey.

Why would a Meschin marry a Geddes liner, if indeed Lucy Taillebois was one? Ask the Massina / Maecenas Numidians. Why would Talbots get involved with Gaetuli liners? I won't know until knowing who the Talbots were aside from the Boii of Bologna suspect in "TailleBOIS. I haven't know where their Tall/Thall branch goes aside from Basina of Thuringia. Talls/Thalls, using the bend of Talbots and Scotts, use the bee design that the Bessin Coat showed until last year. (Ask why houseofnames would change merely a bee design; is it to thwart the writings of people like me? Does houseofnames want to send the erroneous message that design doesn't matter?) Bessins now show the Maxton bee design that has been unchanged for years. It's the Manchester bee.

A Talbot trace to Basina doesn't tell us what "Tal" represented as a people group. The Tailors (in Sale colors, important where Salyes merged with Laevi Gauls) use the Levi lions in colors reversed from the Levi lion. Bessins and Bistons share a Coat (houseofnames has not to-date changed the Biston bee design, which is what Bessins showed until last year). These clans do not trace to bees, but to ancient Bistones of Cyrene. Le Meschin's name (he lived in the Bessin) traces to the Meshwesh of Cyrene, but as yet I don't know where "Tal" traces, even though I now know that Thalls/Talls must be using the Urban bend, thus clinching the trace of Urbans to the Urbanus. The Urban bend looks like that in the Massena Coat. Tailors were first found in Kent, home of many Numidian lines. You can glean the Pek/Peck and Garby patee crosses in the Massena Coat.

Now that I know that Urbanus was named by Garebites, I can go back to an old theory wherein "Serb" is suspect as a soft-C "Gareb." The SERVitium location near the mouth of the Urbanus is a proto-Serb entity, by the looks of it. Servitium is near the mouth of the Colapis, thus clinching the idea that Garebites moved with Jebusite-suspect Jabesh-Gilead elements to the naming of the Japodes. The alternative Kupa name for the Colapis was even traced to "Cuppae" at the Pek theater as further evidence that Garebites passed though the Pek as talbot-using Herbs/Herbeks. .

"Tal" may be a Variation of "Sal," and may even trace with Sale's to "Salins/Salens" at Sion/Sitten.

Hmm, the Salens' term gets the Sale-related Salemans using eagles in the colors of the eagle talons of the Talens/Tallants! The latter were first found in the same place (Cornwall) as Geddys/Gideons. The August Coat uses an eagle talon, as do Hixons/Hicksons. It has been my opinion that the Sale and Saleman bend is that of Bessins too. Whether Tals are from "Sal" or not, they are definitely related. Recently, I've been kicking the idea around that "Salassi / Saluzzo / Salyes" is a soft form of "Gulussa." It may suggest a Taille(bois) trace to the same Gulussa elements as go the Glass', to the Gaetuli theater.

Spanish Urbans use the stars of the Garb(ee)s and French Harveys, quite apparent now, and the footless martins of English Harveys are thus suspect with the one showing now in the French Joseph Coat. The Martin surname has always been suspect from Amorites of Jerusalem, from Mari on the Euphrates. That's Aphrodite, special mistress of Ares, the sinful Hebrews that God despised to the point of appointing them to Armageddon from the foundations of the earth.

This is about a third of this update. I will get more out as next week's update by Monday noon.


On this page, you will find evidence enough that NASA did not put men on the moon.
Starting at this paragraph, there is a single piece of evidence
-- the almost-invisible dot that no one on the outside was supposed to find --
that is enough in itself to prove the hoax.
End-times false signs and wonders may have to do with staged productions like the lunar landing.

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