It's curious that Exxon is willing to break a deal signed earlier, in Iraq's second-largest oil field, to sign a deal exclusively with Kurdistan...that the Iraqi government says is illegal. The Kurd deal must be very sweet, obviously. And why has the West been frightful until now, for lack of confidence in Iraq's security, of signing oil deals with Kurds, yet a huge oil company now signs a deal, in London, even while the security situation has not yet been tested devoid of American military in the country?
It's as though Exxon was advised by Americans to wait until Americans were forced to leave Iraq before stirring the pot this way. How many other western companies will follow suit and sign deals in Iraq that Iraq government is not part of? Does this have anything to do with re-starting a war in Iraq?
http://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/Exxon-inks-oil-deal-Iraqi-afp-278564063.html?x=0The Syria government is very close to collapsing now, and there has been threat of a Syria-Iran retaliation on the West, though Assad has promised to bomb the Israeli capital as that the holy-cow of that retaliation. This comes with talk of an attack by Israel on Iran that seems unreal. We even hear that Obama is now for that attack on Iran, though some are saying it's mere scare tactics.
From the last update in October:
On the aluminum cap atop the Washington Monument in Washington, DC are two words: Laus Deo. No one can see these words. In fact, most visitors to the monument have no idea they are even there...But there they are...5.125 inches high ... perched atop the monument to the father of our nation. The Washington Monument is 55 feet wide at the base and 555 feet tall...
...Though construction of this giant obelisk began in 1848 when James Polk was President...
We might ask whether the hope was to build it 66 feet wide and 666 feet high, but that would have been too obvious a satanic sign.
I didn't know when making that comment that 55 feet is 660 inches, and that 555 feet is 6,660 inches. Thanks to Tim for that tip. It tells us exactly whom the Laus Deo refers to, and it's not the True God.
In fact, Wikipedia says that the monument stands "555 feet 5 1/8 inches (169.294 m)." That's 6,665 inches, plus some. Perhaps under the weight of gravity it has become slightly compressed over time i.e. it was built exactly, or at least they tried the best they could to get it to, 6,666 inches. Wikipedia reports a width of 55 feet 1.5 inches. Why isn't it exactly 666 inches? Is the measurement correct, or correctly reported? Why do both the width and height come up short? Were the measuring instruments used by the builders showing measurements a little different than methods used today?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_Monument#FoundationHeraldry is a Europe-wide tracking system, probably for royal lines mainly, but no doubt "noble" ones too. In the last update, it was discovered that the Bryces trace to Vilnius, and therefore likely to the Astikas > Radziwill families. To expose once again how deceptive heraldry masters were, they said that "Bryce" means "speedy," when in reality it's code for the Speed/Speyd/Speid surname because it's Shield-and-Chief is identical to the Bryce's.
The Speed surname is very likely at the "spes" motto term in the Arms of Vilnius, and of course this links Speeds and Bryces to many other mottos using "spes." It's a fantastic key to have, but right now I'm wondering why Bryces are tracing to Vilnius. There is also the question of whom the Astikas came from that will be dealt with, and why George Washington married a woman whose bloodlines traced in the last update to Vilnius. It's a huge mess to make sense of at this point.
There was estoile evidence that Astikas linked to Este and therefore to Merovingians. Even in the House of Este, there is a Welf = wolf entity, which is the common denominator in all the lines I've been focusing on. Apollo is everywhere. He's in the Poles and the Perkunas-Lada cult of Lithuanians. He's at Bute=Avalon where even Astikas elements traced, in the Romans and Latins, and he's in the Leda lines. He's in the Roman lines to Sinclairs, Merovingians, Arthurians, and even Washington. He's even in the Arpad Hungarians.
Apollo was traced from Arados/Arpad to Rhodes, then to Lycia's Lada goddess and to what Greeks considered his mother, Lydia. In that theater, he (not a real person) merged with golden-fleece Phrygians (proto-Frank frogs) to produce Kybele, the new name for the Mother Goddess. As the Paphlagonians (= proto-Pepinids, proto=Merovingians), Apollo became the Pelops Lydians, and ruled over the Moesian=Mysian side of Lydians, they being mythified as his Muses. His harp symbol was from Arpad elements, and they evolved also into the lyre symbol whose elements settled near Rome on the Liris. Pelops controlled Peloponnesia, and Apollo there became the Spartans of dragon-line concern, the Leda swan and the proto=Pollux Poles. His Pelops branch controlled the Pisans and evolved into Pylos and Messene elements, the proto-Massey Muses. From there, in was into Europe and all over it too. The arrow was his special symbol as well, and Revelation 9 calls shows him in the very end-times with a nuclear arrow, so to speak, and a related giant furnace that marks the beginning of the end of his royal history.
When I saw Justiniskies in the Vilnius article, the Justin surname was entered to find weight scales, the symbol in the Arms of Vilnius. That find was like an arrow through the heart of unbelieving readers, who think I'm crazy to do what I do, take a surname like "Justin" and rashly, in less than a minute of investigation, trace it a thousand miles away to Lithuania. But it's true, heraldry works for me again and again like this, exposing much.
The "causa" term in the Justin motto even helped to reveal that the former husband (Custis surname) president Washington's wife was from Lithuanian elements. It can suggest that "Custis" is from the Caus/Caustin surname first found in Essex. Aside from the wolf heads in the Coat, there was very good proof in the last update that this is absolutely true.
Entering "Cast" or "Custes" brings up another set of weight scales in the Cass/Cash surname, and this may indicate that the Custis clan was from mythical Castor, brother of Pollux that I trace to the founding of Poles. It was shown some years ago that Poles like to use "janina" Shields. that is, Shields-on-Shields, just like the Justin and Cast/Cass/Cash Coats.
Entering "Just" brings up Swiss Justen(berg)s, interesting because the "sine" term of the Justin Coat has been traced to Sion/Sitten, Switzerland. The Just/Justenberg Coat (arrowheads) is even red and white, the colors of Sion. It just so happens that entering "Sion" brings up swans in the Swan/Swayne Coat. That's Castor-important because he was born with the swan as his father.
The Sion/Swan motto is simply, "Fidelitas," and in the last update it was shown that the Fiddle/Fidelow surname use the same wolf heads, in the same colors, as the Caus'/Caustins. Just like that, we can trace the Leda-Apollo wolf line through Leda (Castor's mother) to Sion of Switzerland, and to the Sionist Templars.
It is not necessarily contradictory to trace fidel-like motto terms both to the Fiddles/Fidelows and to the Foetes/Fussen location in Bavaria. Usually, I trace "fide" and similar terms to Foetes, but then that place is on the Lech river, and uses the same symbol as the Isle of man, founded in-part by Irish Lug peoples, the whole of which traces to Ligurians, likewise depicted by the swan.
You can see that the Fittes and Foot Coats are nearly identical, both in Meschin colors. In the last update, the "Fatta Masghi" phrase in the Arms of Baltimore, were traced to Meschins, but the point here is that the immediate Custis line of president Washington's wife merged with the Baltimore line. Why? Because both were from the Sion > Lithuanian line.
It can now be said that the Irish Judge/Jude/Juge Coat, checked out because Justins are said to derive in justices, uses white-on-black scallops, the colors of the Meschin scallops. I know already that Meschins trace to Poles, and that Masghi-like Mascis > Masseys trace to Masovia of Poland, and so let's add to this picture the English Judges, first found in Warwickshire, a place that I trace confidently to Warsaw, the Masovia capital. It should explain why the Sion/Swan Shield is that of the Maceys, and why the Meschin-related talbot is used for a Crest.
Let's keep in mind that Maceys=Maccabees, in the form of the Ayrshire Mackies/Mackeys, were in the Lanarkshire theater, where Sions/Swans were first found. For, the Sion/Swan Coat also uses the Levi lion that I link to Caiaphas and his fathers, a line that's suspect to be part Maccabee-proper.
It's important to keep in mind that Sionists existed long before the Astikas stuck their heads out of the sand in Lithuania. They show up in Vilnius two to three centuries after the first Templar invasion of Jerusalem (1096-99). It's on my mind to discover who and where they came from in earlier times, and so whatever links are made here should play to that quest. The Mieszko Poles, who were in Poland before the Crusades, are of course the prime suspects. It'll be our job, as Christian rulers of God's Kingdom, to bring these people to Court, if they survive Armageddon. Judge John at your service, O Lord.
As Samsons use the same white-on-black scallops because they too are from Mieszko Poles, it's not likely coincidental that both Samsons and Castors/Costers were first found in Gloucestershire. Let's not forget that I trace "Gloucestershire" to mythical Glaucus, who loved the Scylla monster in Messina (Sicily), that being the place represented by "scallop." It was either Scylla or it's counterpart monster, Charibdis, or both, that myth writers assigned multiple wolf heads. Charibdis has already been traced successfully, via the family of mythical Orpheus, to Apollo's Arpad > Carpathian elements that gave birth to Hungarians.
Interestingly, the Castor/Coster talbot dog is called a "hunting dog."
I can't be sure whether "Charibdis" evolved from "Calabria" and thereby became "Calvados," but in any case, the Bessin, that I think is represented by besants (gold roundels), is in Calvados, where Meschin Rus ruled their share of Normandy. The Castor/Coster Coat uses besants, you see, as further confirmation that "Fatti masgui" is code for they and their Foot-of-Cheshire relations. I've always glued Ligurians to Meschins, especially the Lee/Luy/Legh surname, and it just so happens that, as it was shown in the last update, Eleanor Calvert Custis Stuart, the mother of George Washington Parke Custis (grandson of president Washington's wife), "descended from Charles Calvert, 3rd Baron Baltimore and of Henry Lee of Ditchley".
Later in the same quote (big big thanks to emailer Patterson, and to our Father for the excellent timing), we saw that a granddaughter of a son (Jack) of president Washington's wife married Robert E. Lee of the Confederate army to form a Lee-Custis merger.
The Meschins, Foots, and even the Samson double-axe "cross" are in the colors of the Leader/Leeder and Ladd/Ladon Coats, now suggesting that these were swan-liner families from Leda. Her swan husband was Zeus, but that for me has been too vague a clue to pin down what people group was truly involved to the Ligurian swan. The Caucones are suspect because the Ligurian swan developed from mythical Cycnus. But I decided that the Kikons are the better bet, though they and Caucones may have been the very same peoples.
The English Judge surname uses two axe in Crest, their handles tied in the middle with a crown, the idea being like a fagot. The Arms of Vilnius not only uses a fagot (= a tied bundle of sticks as symbol for Astikas), but has an axe at the top. Did you note that the Irish Judge Coat uses a "Totum EST" motto phrase?
To support the trace to Masovia, the Juge variation of the Judges/Judes suggested a search for a Jugg surname, and it not only popped up, but with the Drake red wyvern that was symbol to the dukes of Masovia. Remember, the father of president Washington's wife was a DanDRIDGE while "Dridghe" beings up the Drake-Coat wyvern. The Jugg surname is shown properly as "Judd."
In the last update, Yonges were linked to Jordans/Yardens, and it was gleaned that the surname traced to ancient Hebron, which is an idea that popped into my mind when I saw the white-on-red (Hebron-surname colors) Jugg/Judd Coat. Sometimes I have special understanding of these topics, and it proves to be true. Let's not call it psychic, as that would be an insult to my Lord. The Apollo Oracle was psychic, Christians are enlightened. There's a difference like night and day. It's hit-and-miss for psychics, like one shooting arrows in the dark and hitting the trees most of the time. But when God speaks, the message gets through, or He doesn't speak at all (the necessarily meaning that the message is accepted).
The point is, it was with the understanding that the Jordan-surname link to Hebron was made as per a link to a peoples on the Jordan river. I had traced Jebusites of Jerusalem to the Jordan river. Jebusites lived in the Zion district of Jerusalem. The Jugg/Judd write-up: "The name Jugg comes from the names Judd and Jutt, which are pet forms of the personal name Jordan. These names are derived from Jurd, a common abbreviation of Jordan, and feature the common interchange of voiced and voiceless final consonants."
Sometimes these writings are carried to you "live," as I write. The above was written before checking the Gordon Coat (as per "Jurd") to find a "ByDAND" motto terms smacking of "Dandridge." It's possible, you see, that a Dan surname was short for "JorDAN." In any case, the Gordon Crest is a stag head looking like the Parker stag head! It makes sense where Martha Dandridge gave birth to children, one of whom birthed George Washington Parke Custis. Moreover, like the Juggs/Judds with "Jurd" term in their write-up. Gordons use boars. If I'm not mistaken, the personal Arms of Camilla Parker Bowles (new wife of prince Charles of Wales) uses a blue boar, the color of the Vere boar (see 1st update of this past July for a trace of Bowles' to Poles of the Boleslaw kind, i.e. son of Mieszko).
The alternative-Scottish Gordons use "Astutia," smacking of the "Justitia" motto term in the Arms of Vilnius. We're all scratching our heads wondering why Vilnius is so important. The "Jewish" Gordons aren't showing a Coat.
Look at the craft of the Gordon write-up: "There is little doubt that bearers of Gordon came to Britain with the Normans, and it is generally thought that they descend from the place named 'Gourdon' in Saone-et-Loire [Sion-et=Loire?], Normandy, but the oldest roots of the bearers of Gordon in Scotland may lie with the Boernician tribe of ancient Scotland....It has been suggested that this place-name was originally derived from the Welsh (ancient Brithonic) words, gor and din, which mean 'spacious' and 'fort,' and such..." Didn't I trace the "spes" term (i.e. used by the Vilnius motto) to the Space/Specott surname???
The latter Coat uses the Arms of Baden, and Bernicians were traced to Baden's Zahringers, who founded Berne in Switzerland, that jibing with the trace of Jordans to Sion! Therefore, the Saone river may indeed have been named by "Sion" elements.
There's a wolf in the English Gore Crest, and French Gores, in Gordon colors, are also "Jore(t)." The latter Gores also use greyhounds (a John-Yonge symbol that could link to Trabys), while English Gores were first found in Essex, where Yonges were first found...who likewise use a wolf in Crest. It's a smaller world now in heraldry land.
REMEMBER, Bernicians lived in Bryneich, smacking of Brunswick, where the Este clan came to have authority that was Bar-fish and Merovingian-lys important.
The Yonge Coat uses "TouJOURs," now revealed easily as code for the Gore/Jore surname. From the last update:
French Jordans are also "Jourdin," and as the Yonge motto is "TouJOURs jeune," it's conspicuous that French Jordans use three red roses, the Yonge symbol too. If that traces Yonges to the Traby fold (it's been done before as per John-Yonge links to Tudors), then we should also consider the wolf in the Yonge Crest, and the idea presented above that "Yonge" may link to "Yonne," the French location at Avallon where Vilnius wolf-liners are suspect.As per the Core variation of Gores, the Cories were looked up to find them first found in Dumfries, where Kilpatricks were first found who were linked in the last update to Jordans! Cories use estoiles! Estoiles were found (in the last update) in the Carr/Kerr Coat with "Fida Clavo" motto, if that helps to trace the House of Este to Clovis in particular. But it was the estoiles of the Raddells that tipped me off on an estoile identification for the Astikas > Radziwill line. Both Juggs/Judds and Raddells were first found in HERTfordshire.
From the 1st update in September:
I kid you not, that when I started this task and got quickly to the Simon surname as described above, I had forgotten that "The [Hasmonean] dynasty was established under the leadership of Simon Maccabaeus, two decades after his brother Judas the Maccabee ('Hammer') defeated the Seleucid army..." Hmm, why are there axes in the English Jude Crest (leopards in the Coat), while Irish Judes/Judges/Juges use Samson- and Meschin-colored scallops."It can't be both true that Jordans trace to the Jordan river and to Judas Maccabee, can it? Besides, Samson was a Danaan peoples on one side so that Dandridges could be from them rather than from "JorDAN." On the other hand, Samson was linked to Amorites of Hebron, in my opinion, while nearby Jerusalem had it's own Amorites, and Jebusites are suspect as Amorites too.
As I trace Samsons to Welsh Jones', one theory is that the two axes of the English John surname, who are also "Jone," should be of the similar axes of the Jordan-related Judges/Judes/Juges. The Welsh Johns use the same axes too, and they have a "corvos" in the Motto that could be code for, not only their raven, but a Cor-like surname...such as the Corries, Cores, Gores, etc.
It could added here that the Samson cult in Timnah, the one that wrote the book of JUDGES, was merged with, or even defined as, Timnah, sister of Lotan the Seir-ite. The Scottish Carr Shield is not only the same as the Hebron Shield, but uses the motto, "Sero sed Serio." Seirincidence?
It could also be noted that the Carr stars are the colors of the Sion-of-Switzerland stars. The sun in the Carr Crest could be Helios of Rhodes, off the coast of CARia. There is probably little difference between Apollo on Rhodes and Helios, as both were sun gods. I trace "Helios" to the "Galli" Kabeiri (the Galli uses a snake in the form of a helix), and Apollo/Abello was a fundamental part of the Kabeiri, probably Cybele (i.e. from "Abello") herself, queen of the cult. Remember, Hercules came to the west in a cup-shaped ship of Helios, and Hercules was the Samson Danaans.
It just so happens that Carruthers and other Car terms were a significant topic in the last update, about the same time that the Custis' were introduced. Convinced that Custis and similar others trace to mythical Choscisko, grandfather of Siemowit (both Apollo and Siemowit trace to the Uat/Buto cult), there is cause for a further trace back to Kos, an island beside Rhodes, explaining why Seir-ians above appeared to trace to Caria via the Carr motto.
I did trace mythical Merops of Kos to Merovingians, and the Irish Carr motto ("Fida Clavo") does imply Clovis elements. In the same way that I link the Ladd/Ladon Coat to the Meschin Coat, so I've linked the English Claver/Cleaver Coat to the Meschin Coat.
Again, Apollo was ruler of the Muses, and so we expect Masseys with Apollo elements. The mother of Apollo to the Romans was Latona, and she was traced by ancients to the Uat-Buto cult, that serving as some evidence that Bute was in fact Avalon. One relevant point is the Ladd/Ladon link above to Meschins, but then there is also the Laton/Leighton Crest (Shield colors reversed from the Vere and Massey Shields), the same wyvern (of the Juggs/Judds) that was traced above to Masovia's dukes (If I'm not mistaken, Mieszko I was a duke, not a king).
Latons/Leightons were first found in Huntingdon and are therefore suspect as Traby elements there. In fact, the recent past saw me suggesting that the 666-like code in the Traby hunting horns could be related to the 666-like tail of the Drake wyvern, and here we find the Drake wyvern in Huntingdon not long after it was gleaned that Traby hunting horns pertain in particular to Huntingdon. Who was it above that used talbots as "hunting dogs"? Ah, yes, the Castor Coat in the colors of Ladons, Leaders, and Meschins.
Mythical Helen, daughter of Leda, has to be in this picture somewhere, for she was a Mysian peoples of the golden-fleece line. As with Helios, I trace her to the Galli at Gallipolis on the Hellespont. Mythical Helle was also code for that sea, and she was sister to Phrixus, rider of the golden fleece.
The Dutch Clavers, who use clovers, show the same sword design. so far as I can make out, as this Mackesy sword. The Mackesy snake is green on white, colors reversed to the MacCabes/MacAbees (Arras). This is important for the trace in the last update of MacCabes to Mackies/Mackeys, firs found in Ayrshire, on-shore of the island of Arras. As you can see, both the MacCabes and the Clavers use a wavy green border, the latter's used as the field on which the clovers grow. THEN, as per MacKEY, English Clavers show a key in Crest.
Cliffs/Cleaves, an obvious Claver (also "Cleaver") branch, not only use a trefoil = clover, but the wolf-head design (so far as I can make out) of the Fiddles/Fidelows and Caus'/Caustins. Then, in the Clifford Crest, we find the same red wyvern of the Juggs/Judds, tail shaped like a '6'. It would seem, therefore, that the same Pepinid and Clovis Merovingians at the root of Mieszko were in the root of the Astikas.
Bar(r)s (use the Este eagle and bugles) of Brunswick-Este were in the Meuse theater, and as Masseys have become more and more pertinent to this investigation, let's show the bell, the only symbol, of the French Cost(is)/Caustes Coat. This bell is in the colors of the Borderlands Bell surname, first found in Dumfries. The other Bell Coat uses the Bellamy Shield, and Bellamys were of Ferte-Mace's Maceys / Masseys.
Costs/Caustes' (first found in Languedoc) are said to be from "cote," and it could therefore be that Custis', and similar-term relations, were from Cottians...especially the Constances/CUSTESons (Ferte eagle) family of Languedoc that I think were, at least in-part, Cottians. There is a lake Constance on the German-Swiss border near Foetes, and that's probably not coincidental.
The problem is that Cus-like terms can also trace to Gascony elements. Perhaps Gascony elements merged with Cottians to allow either use of terms.
The Constance motto phrase, "AppeTITus ration," smacks both of "JusTITia" and Radziwill branches such as Ratcliffes/Radcliffes (see last update for details on them). Weren't the Teutons in the neighborhood of Lithuania?
I've been over Constance territory before, finding that both (nearly the Tuttel/Toothill Coat!!!!!) and Villes were first found in Languedoc, wherefore the Contvilles, direct ancestry of Hugh Lupus and therefore of Ranulf le Meschin, are suspect as part of the Custis line.
Those five exclamatons are for my surprise at the timing, immediately after the mention of Teutons, for I did not know (or remember), when I started the last paragraph, that Contes use the Tuttel Coat. It was in the last update that a Tuttel (and Tout) link to Teutons was suggested. As the Valois/VALOUR Coat is similar, I would suggest that the Villes and Valois' are branches. In any case, as we've already seen this Custis / Vilnius investigation trace to Sion/Sitten, it's not likely coincidental that the Valois surname is also "Valais" (the name of the Swiss canton where Sion sits).
[Insert -- There is another theory here for Tout / Tuttel origins: "Mindaugas, the first and the only crowned Lithuanian king, defended himself in Voruta [thought by some to be an earlier name for Vilnius] during an internal war against his nephews TAUTvilas and Edivydas..." (caps mine).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voruta End insert]Sometimes I can be pretty soft. The last word that I wrote in that last paragraph was "Vilnius." I had written the sentence already without the "Custis / Vilnius" part, and added that phrase after the paragraph was done. I had not realized until after writing "Vilnius" that the Villes should trace to it!!!!! THAT MEANS, APPARENTLY, that "Vilnius" has just been discovered in "VALAIS" elements.
It then means that Vilnius was yet another haunt of the bloodline of Valerius-Gratus (Roman governor of Judea just before Pontius Pilate). And the fact that the Valery surname (same Shield as Valois'/Valours and Contes) was first found in Dauphine, beside Languedoc, would seem to support the idea. It explains why the Arms of Vilnius uses the fagot of sticks topped by the axe, an ancient-Roman symbol.
The flag in the Ville Coat is of the same type (admittedly common) as in the Crest of the Arms of Baltimore...with "Fatti Masghi" motto phrase that was traced to Meschins, as even the ConteVILLES trace to Meschins. How many times have I re-iterated that Meschins were linked to purple? The Ville flag is purple...likely symbol of Romans, and the flag itself could be code for Afflecks (double cross, as with the Arms of Vilnius) and/or Flecks/Flags (scallops in the colors of the Judges/Judes/Juges, Meschins, Samsons).
I'm not entertaining to the best of my ability that the Judge surname traces to the book of Judges, but, in this case, that idea may have played a factor in modifiying a Samson-related surname to "Judge."
Compare the Dutch Claver Shield (ignore the green but keep the wavy border) to the Valery Coat.
YES! IT just so happens that the Ville surname is also "Fond de Ville." I recall tracing it to Fontanas, who use a fountain, which trace now seems correct because the Custes/Cash Coat uses..."fountains."
I'm fairly sure that somewhere in the last update, a Coat was shown with a blank white Shield and a blank black Chief, as with the Villin/Villain Coat. The Clavers have a Black Shield and, like the Villins, were first found in Norfolk. It reminds me of the half-black, half-white Sprows/Spruce Shield (a Dutch surname like one Claver surname), solidly traced to Sprowstun, Norfolk (see May 10-16 update for details). I linked the Sprows to Melusine-cult Veres of Sprowestun (Roxburghshire), to the Sparre location in Norfolk, and to Fulk-of-Anjou relations with hypothetical Speers of Lusignan, thus tracing Sprows to Lusatia's Spree river.
I now find, after writing the paragraph above, that the Sparr(an) Coat uses the same Ferte eagle as the Constances/CUSTEsons!!! (Yes, it's the MacDonald eagle too). Does that not tend to verify that the Villin surname is from Vilnius??? Doesn't it show that it pays time and again for me to do my homework and to record all these things?
Yes, I realize how hard it is for readers to read so long on all the data, but unless it's recorded, I kick myself later when needed badly, and besides it would impoverish readers who are expecting me to deliver something worthy of their time.
English Sparrs/Sparks, from Cheshire (in what I sometimes regard as "Maccabee colors"). I had traced Sparrs to the Sparrow surname, and then German Sparrs/Sperls (footless martin, herein called a "swallow") use "sparrow-hawks," though I think they are the same as the "eagle standing on a perch" of English Botters, important for a trace to Perche, the location of the Bellamys that merged with Ferte-Maces. Botters use a "staff" in Crest, and then there is a swan in the Staff Crest, as there is a swan in the Sparr/Spark Crest.
This Sparr relationship to Masseys must be as per the "Dum spiro spero" motto of the Massins/Masons. I'm wondering whether the white-on-green of Cheshire Sparrs traces to the white and green of the Massars, first found in Lucca, as with Italian Botters. Makes sense. I had traced the Massar Coat to the MacCabe Coat.
Masseys loved Ligurians because they were from interior Liguria (i.e. Piedmont), and no doubt some of them were in coastal Liguria too. You know what I'm talking about here: Masseys / Mackies of Bute, even the Massars of Lucca migrating to Bute with Botters of Lucca, and being of MacCabe-branch Maccabee blood somehow. It should be extremely interesting to learn exactly how that Massey link to Maccabee blood worked. It may suffice, as far as God is concerned, to reveal to us that Samsons are of the Valerius, Pilate, Caiaphas, Maccabee, and Herod lines, all fomenting together on the shores of every nation...and out of the sea will the anti-Christ come, brave and noisy and pestering, like a fat juicy fly that doesn't know enough to fear the Flyswatter in the Sky. In the land of Edom, from whence it came, will it be squished.
AHA!! After writing all that, the time came to enter "Swallow/Swaylow" as per the Sparr/Sperl Crest, and there was a Coat like the Sprows/Spruce Coat, and showing three white swallows...tending to identify what sort are the three white birds of the Sprows/Spruce Coat. The white side of the Sprows Coat shows the same oak tree as the Swallow Crest!
AHA! As Trabys trace to Devon in different ways, some of them shown later below, see that the Devon Shield is also split black and white, and that the motto uses "Spero"!
AHA! I thought I had seen the same swallows in a Coat mentioned earlier in this update. It turns out that the Speed/Speid Coat does use "swallows," and Speeds (using the Bryce Shield) entered the discussion because the Bruces are traced to "speed." Bryces, remember, show solid signs of tracing to Vilnius, or vice versa. There is a Bavarian Spade/Spede surname (in Sped/Speid colors) that could apply.
The Spayde variation could link to the Swaylow variation, leading to new avenues of investigation. "Speyer" brings up the Speers. But as we saw Vilnius elements tracing to the Sion/Swan/SWAYne surname, that too is Swallow/Swaylow-suspect. In other words, don't assume that "Swallow" was the original form, but more like "Swan/Swayne."
As Trabys linked up with Radziwills, this recalls my identification of the Traby "Q" (if that's what it really is) with the Queen/Sweyne/Swan surname. I've never much talked about the Traby link to Queens/Sweynes because there was no concrete evidence for it, though something made me make the link. I now see that Queens/Swans use wolf heads and a "Constant and faithful" motto!!! ASTOUNDING. I'm happy. The Faithful surname was traced to the Foetes location because "fidelis," a term now tracing strongly to Vilnius, was traced to Foetes. But moreover we are in the midst of seeing Vilnius elements trace to Constances/Custesons.
AHA! The Faith(ful)/Feyth(ful) surname was first found in Norfolk, where Sprowston is located (uses a black and white town, split vertically, just like the Sprows/Spruce Shield. Both Faithfuls and Queens/Swans use the Sprows/Spruce colors. The arrow heads (ermines, really) in the Faithful Coat remind me of the arrow heads in the Just/Justenberg Coat. The latter surname was a link between Vilnius and Sion/Sitten.
Did we trace Rodhams to Radziwills in the last update? Yes, and the Rodham tree stump is found in the Faithful Crest.
Both Faithfuls (plates) and Speeds use the "proper" term in their Crest descriptions, and we saw the Proper/Robin surname (Mackie / Mackesy lion, a key in an ostrich mouth) tracing to Radziwills in the last update. That Proper trace was in conjunction with the Prophet/ProFETT surname using a leg like the legs in the Arms of Foetes. If I die, all of these secrets go with me. Is anyone out there recording these updates in their computers? Who else will tell the world how heraldry works if no one else does? By now, some of you are becoming more than primed on how this all works. The Faithful crane is "perched" on the Rodham stump. You get it. The Faithful symbol is one mean engrailed black-on-white saltire, symbol for faithful pirates.
See the Bells of the Rud/Rut/Ruttle Coat (Macey Shield) that tend to prove that the "perche" on the Rodham stump is code for a Bellamy link to Rodhams. If true that Rodhams were of Rutland, therein again is the Massey love for Ligurians.
I understand that everyone is linked to everyone somewhere down the historical road. It's not surprising to find that links are made all over the place. The point in knowing my heraldry is to make a story, to be able to trace certain clans/groups to a certain places or entities, and then give the reasons, the underlying gods, for those traces. When so many clans in such a short span of time are tracing to Vilnius elements, there is a story involved. I'm not just finding family links, but finding family links to the same place. Is there a good reason for emphasizing Vilnius at this time. I don't know? I'm just the writer, not the Producer, of this material.
It was though Tim's help that I was able to trace the Sadowskis (that come up when entering "Traby" to the Gastons of Surrey. As it would appear to be God's message to us through emailer Patterson that the Custis' of Vilnius are important -- for obvious reasons thus far in revealing just who American Masons trace to -- is it coincidental that "Gaston" is so close to "Custis," and even closer to "Caustin" (the latter was traced fairly-solidly above to Custis').
AHA-HA-HAH. After writing that, it was time to see the French Gaston/Gastou Coat: a white Shield (with cage) and a blank black Chief, too much like the Villin/Villain Coat to be coincidental. GASTRONOMICAL FIND! We have proven that Villins/Villains are from Vilnius. And as it was suggested above that Vilnius traces to the (Fond)Villes of Languedoc, so the Gastons/Gastous were first found in...Languedoc!!!!!
Recalling that Costs/Caustes' (first found in Languedoc) are said to be from "cote," the Cotts/Cottins/Cottez', likewise first found in Languedoc, can now be added to the list of suspected Custis relations. They come up by entering "Gaut," and then the Swedish Gust write-up traced to "Gaut," suggesting that Gusts and Gastons are related. To help prove that Gauts/Cotts/Cottez' are from the Radziwill-Traby fold, they use lattice ("fretty") traceable to the lattice on the stockings of mythical Siemowit at his Wikipedia article.
The idea is that some Cottians adopted an 's' to get "Cost" out of "Cott." For example, the Cotner variation of the Cotts could modify to "Costner," and so see the double cross in the Costner/Castner Coat! There is a Coston/Caston surname (first found in Norfolk where Sprows lived that were accessed above only due to the Villin Coat) using the Chill/Child Coat exactly, wherefore Costons/Castons are traced indeed to the Hebron surname (of CHILLingham).
Both Chills/Childs and estoile-using Radells/Radwells were first found in Hertfordshire. Right now, I suspect that Radells/Radwells are the prime Radziwill suspects. We should take them in for questioning?
Let's not forget that Radziwills were also RadVILA. There is a Portuguese Vila/Devilla/D'Avila surname (13 hurts)...that just reminded me, SO TIMLEY, of the TanerDEVILLA location after which Tankervilles were named!!! That is EXCELLENT because I have made many times a trace of the Swedish Gusts to Tankervilles, and probably no one was listening. The trace was made because Tankerville-related Tancreds use a red-on-white chevron, as do GUSts/Gauts, while Tancreds/TanCARDS gave birth to lattice-depicted GUIScard. In this picture, the Guiscard lattice links, of course, to the Gaut/Cott lattice.
Interestingly, the Spanish Vila Coat smacks of the Caddel Coat (traced in the last update to Mieszko Poles) while the Vilas were first found in CATALonia.
I don't yet know whether Portuguese Vilas/Devillas trace to Vilnius, but their Avila location smacks of Abila, the region between ancient Phoenicia and Syria, where Abilene was named after it, and what i think is the root of "Abello=Apollo." I tend to view Abila as an Avvite location. The 13 hurts sure does smack of an Arthurian center.
Another suspect. The Will/Wylls Coat shows, not only another wyvern dragon with 6-shaped tail, but an axe in Crest. We also have a Shield-on-Shield, white on black, the Villin-Shield-and-Chief colors. I'm convinced already that Will surnames trace to Vilnius. The "Sursum" motto may link to Surrey elements. I should add that the checks of the Surrey Gastons are used by the Surrey/Sark surname itself. I was able to trace the Traby/Sadowskis to Gastons of Surrey when Tim found a Sark-like surname in Poland using the Sadowski "Q". Let's not forget the "sure" motto term of Kilpatricks, for they also use "cushions" that I've traced to Patterson Cussanes, who I think (with little doubt) are part of the Custis crowd.
The English Willis Crest is the same eagle rising as the English Bond/Bundy Crest. The reason that I'm confident in a Patterson/Cussane trace to the Custis crowd is for my trace of the Cussanes to the Custes/Cash surname...using fountains. I say this here because the fountains were found above to link to Fond de Villes. That then makes the Vilnius connection to Willis'. See how easy this? But it takes breaking away from what the mind tends to tell us, that surnames like Will could not possibly trace to Lithuania.
The Bundy Shield is effectively also the Ladd/Ladon Shield, probably in honor of Lithuanian's mythical mother, Lada. The black-on-white chevron used by Bonds/Bundys is found also in the Willis Coat. Recalling the fagot-like motto codes of the last update that were traced to the Vilnius fagot, it should be added that the Bonds/Bundys use "SufFICAT." An eagle-rising is a symbol of the Illuminati, and some tell us that Bundy are one of the 13 Illuminati families. Again, the Portuguese Vila/Devilla Coat has 13 hurts, and its Avila location was traced to northern Phoenicia...home of the rising phoenix.
Isn't it interesting that the United States was linked to Vilnius in the last update, and that the masters of the country decided to begin with 13 colonies? The Great Seal of the United States uses a gold eagle, the color of the Bond/Bundy and Willis eagles. The Seal's eagle has 13 stripes on its breast, and many other 13s.
The Zionists stars of the English Bonds/Bundy are in the Italian Bundy Coat, only now the stars are in the colors of the Weis stars, symbol of the founders of the Bavarian Illuminati. But I maintain my trace of "Weis" to the Wassa surname, the proto-Washington surname. The Italian Bundy sword is, so far as I can make out, the Dutch Claver sword.
It's got to be the Excalibur sword that I trace to the metal-making (C)Halybes, even as "Claver" smacks of "Chalybe(r)." The Bond link to Willis," and the Willis link to Vilas, then suggests rather strongly that the 13 hurts of the Vilas are indeed code for king Arthur, for the Irish Arthur Coat uses hurts too. This recalls the merger of an Arthur surname of Claver-like Clapton (Somerset) with a family of Hicks. Regardless of how important or not that merger was, the point is, Claptons look like Excalibur-line Halybes. I did identify Halybes with the wolf symbol, and Claptons use a wolf head. In fact their wolf design is also that of Queens/Swans...that definitely trace to Vilnius, and possibly to the Traby-Sadowskis.
[The Claver sword design is used also by Irish Feys, and clinches an Excalibur identification because Arthur was of Avalon elements, as were Feys. The sword is use by Dutch Milners too, in blue this time, the color of the sword in the Italian suit of spada. AND ZIKERS, this is awesome because this paragraph was an insert a few hours after writing what's above and below, when I was looking for others who use the Claver sword; it just so happens that English Milners use the same wolf-head designs as the Claptons and Queens I didn't know the below was there when deciding to locate this insert here!! Nor did I know that Queens were in the paragraph above. This insert was located here after searching for and finding the mention of the Excalibur in the paragraph above.]
By the way, Queens/Swans were first found on Skye and Lewis, as were the Clovis-line Clodes/McLeods, thus tending to prove the relationship between Queens/Swans and Clovis-based Claptons/Cloptons.
The club in a deck of cards is a clover shape, and that makes the club suit suspect as code for Clovis Franks. Hearts are suspect as Arthurians Herods, and as these are traced to Rhodians, it should explain why the suit of hearts is red. Spades may trace to the Spades/Spedes and Speeds/Speids, whatever they were in the form of a major people group. In an Italian deck of cards, the spada suit is a sword, and along with swords there are red cups suggesting a grail cult. The Sword/Sourdes/Swerts surname write-up: "Thus, the name Clavin is a synonym for Swords." Amazing "coincidence."
Like the Clavers, the Clavins/Clavimans were of Holland (and Belgium). I guess all these royals had nothing to do between pillaging excursions but sit around and play cards and smoke cigarettes, no room for women.
As per the Glevenman variation of Belgian Glavins, "Gleave" was entered to find a clan first in Cheshire, which is where Claptons were first found too. "Gleave" also brings up the Cliffs/Cleaves. This has the potential to identify the gold-on-red lions of the Dutch and Belgian Clavins as colors reversed from the personal lion of Ranulf le Meschin.
AHA! Irish Glavins/Lavins/Hands use red diamonds!!!! The Irish Glavin/Lavin write-up: "The Gaelic word 'flaith,' means 'prince or ruler, but this name has sometimes been mis-translated as 'hand.'" I'll bet that's code for the Hand surname, first found in Cheshire. If I recall correctly, Hugh Lupus (Cheshire) was called something very close to "flaith," said to mean, "wolf." Who can we trust?
It appears that the deck of cards was created by Clovis bloodlines. Didn't I just trace Herods to Clovis? Doesn't that suggest that the suit of hearts was in honor of the Herod bloodline? Hmm, Jacks (why "jacks"?), QUEENS, and kings, and just look at the weight scales in the Ace/Assi Coat!!! The surname is said to be from "Oswald," a potential Esau line. Scottish Oswalds use the Zionist stars of the Bavarian Weis', and a savage wearing a Masonic apron (I think) and carrying a bow and arrows as Esau would have. German (Bavaria) Oswalds use the same chevron as Hebrons, and their Zionists stars are in the white-on-red colors of the Wassa Zionist star! Uat is going on herr?
Unbelievers, hush. It's true, the Ace in a deck of cards is Esau. The Bavarian OsWALDS/OsWALTES smack now of Walsers, known to be from Wallis/Valais canton, where Sion is located, for that canton uses red-on-white as well as white-on-red stars. Shouldn't we expect some Walser branches to use white-on-red Zionists stars, as Oswalds (in Wallis/Wallace colors) and Wassas do??? Can it be that "Wassa" was from "Esau"? Is it that bad for the United States?
Walsers were first found in Bavaria! They are known to be named after Wallis/Valais canton, now known by me to be named after the bloodline of Valerius Gratus, the same governor that traced already to the founders of the United States.
The Oswald description: An oak trunk with acorns, between two red probosces. A TRUNK and PROBOSCES?? Isn't that code for the elephant symbol of the Eliphas-of-Esau bloodline that traces to "Halybes" who became the Clavers that created the deck of cards with an Esau-like ace?
I can be sure that the Club/Clobbe surname traces to Clapton(s) because the Coat is much like the Scottish Hykes/Hake Coat. The footless martins in the Club/Clobbe Coat are there probably because the clan also traced to Charles Martel.
We naturally want to see the Oz Coat. Like Clavers and Clavins, the Oz/Oss' were first found in Holland. They use white-on-green bull heads. The English Osborn write-up: "...an Old Norse personal name "Asbjorn' made up of 'ās,' meaning 'god' and 'bjorn,' or 'bear.'" We'd expect the French Bear Coat to shows a bear too, but instead it's that red bull that traces to Lusatia, and German Bears were first found in overlapping Silesia, not forgetting that the bear-using Zahringers are traced to Lusatia's Spree river.
Ossingtons trace to a Bear-like location: "...the lands of Ossington, held by the Norman Baron, Ralph of Buron of Bures near Bayeux..." It gets us back to Bayeux's Meschin elements that migrated to Hesse-like CHESter and CHEShire. How many times do we want to see that red wyvern of the Drakes in this update? It's also in the Esse/Ash Crest. Why is it red? The Esses/Ashes were first found in Devon, and I trace Devon elements to "Diva," the previous name of Chester. As the Drake wyvern is now very Traby-suspect, note that Esses/Ashes were of Derbyshire and Surrey.
I'm now torn between a trace of Chester to Hesse and to mythical Castor. If I remember correctly, aside from anything in this update that linked Meschins to Castor, I found evidence recently of a "Chester" trace to "Castor." My dilemma here is interesting because Hesse was supposedly founded by Catti, who smack of Cassel, a district that Hesse merged with.
I would suggest that the Osborne motto phrase, "Pax in" traces to Payens/Pagans who use the Bavarian Zionist star. The Ches(sum)/Cestresham surname (white on green) is of ChesHAM in BUCKINGhamshire, but is traced by it's write-up to Bayeux elements. Why is the Ches-Coat stag head, red?
Enough of that. Let's move on to the question of why Vilnius elements seemed to trace to Bute. I may have the answer in Excalibur sword that was shown above in the Irish Fey Coat. The first king of Lithuania, Mindaugas, had a son. VAISvilkas, which apparently means Vais-wolf. It's too much like the wolf line that I trace to Avalon, and "Vais" is too much like "Fay / Fey to be ignored. I knew nothing of Vaisvilkas when tracing Vilnius elements to Bute and surroundings. In the mention above on the Excalibur, the sword was shown in the Dutch Milner Coat, and then the English Milners were shown with the Clapton and Queen/Swan wolf heads. The latter clan was traced rather solidly to Vilnius.
It's starting to add up that VAISvilkas was the mythical Morgan le Fay line of Avalon, especially as Feys have been traced to the Morges region of Switzerland, at lake Geneva, not far from Sion where Vilnius elements traced more solidly even than they did to Bute.
Look at the artist's drawing of Mindaugas. It looks so Arthurian. Note the sword.
Haven't I traced Vilnius elements to Romans? Yes, but Wikipedia says that others who traced Mindaugas to Romans were lying: "The legends about Palemonids, a noble family from the Roman Empire who settled in Lithuania and gave rise to the Duchy, are quite popular and widespread in these [Mindaugas] genealogies." Were they really legends and lies? Clicking to the Palemonids article:
The Palemonids were a legendary dynasty of Grand Dukes of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania and Ruthenia. The legend was born in the 15th or 16th century as proof that Lithuanians and the Grand Duchy are of Roman origins... ...In the chronicle, Palemon (Could be Polemon II of Pontus, which was relative to Nero), a relative of Roman Emperor Nero, escaped Rome with 500 noble families. They traveled north, through the Baltic Sea, and reached Nemunas Delta.How interesting, for Tolkien places a Numenor island next to his own "Avallone" location, and I correctly identified Numenor as Arran. Wow, Nero Romans at Avalon.
Didn't I trace Arthurians to Romans? Yes, and it seems that they trace to Vilnius too, via Clovis, whose sacred city of Reims is thought, by others besides me, to have been founded by Romans of the mythical-Remus kind, an Apollo-wolf line like his brother, Romulus. How do you like that? The dread Nero, killer of Christians, is now part of the Arthurian cult along with Pilate and Caiaphas. Flies of a feather stick together on as piece of...
Whether the Palemon history is tainted or not, I still think that Lithuanians were from Latona, the Latins. The Freemasonic-American system is Roman.
At the Palemonid article above, there is something very Traby-important. Look to the genealogy at the bottom of the page. Find "DauMANTAS [caps mine], Duke of Deltuva, From Centaurus family". Note that Daumantas is not originally part of the Palemonid bloodline, but enters as a separate entity by marriage. After the marriage to the Palemonid line, the offspring starts a line of Lithuanian dukes that takes Vilnius with a SVENtaragis character. Why Sven? Was he from the Swan/Sion and/or Queen/Swan surname that is suspect as the Traby "Q"? It just so happens that, after Sventargis (who could be myth code), we find SkirMANTAS (why "mantas" again?), who merges with the line of a Trabus character, duke of Samogitia. I knew nothing of this until now. I knew nothing of this when linking Trabys to Queens/Swans. I didn't fashion that theory based on this genealogy.
It's as though Daumantas was the line from Sion/Sitten to the Trabys, who themselves are known to have merged with Astikas. Unlike the other characters in the genealogy, Daumantas is considered an historical person (rule starts 1282, after the death of Vaisvilkas in 1267), whose successor is said to be Butigeidis, brother of Butvydas. Bute-incidence?
By what coincidence is it that we have a Bute-like and a Fay-like ruler in the same generation, in Lithuania's power structures? I didn't know about Butigeidis or his brother when I wrote above on the Vaisvilkas link to Bute. ButiGEIDUS was ruler of the GEDiminids, meaning that the root of his name is "But." Believe you me, this is a new twist to my concept on Bute roots.
But then who says that Buitgeidas or Vaisvilkas founded Bute? Couldn't it have been the other way around? I would think that Sion/Sitten elements went from Switzerland to Lithuania so that Fey, Vey, Vivian, and/or Morges elements went from Geneva to Lithuania too.
Daumantas was duke of Deltuva. As his line is shown to have merged with Trabus, see under the Traby Arms that the Arms are also called, "Tuba," smacking of the "tuva" in Deltuva." Trabus appears mythical, but the fact that he's made a leader of Samogitia is probably a good hint that Trabys were from those peoples. The ancestry of Samogitians is said to have been the Hirruli / Heruli / Herulos. Does that not smack of the Hirell/Hurl surname that comes up when entering "Herod"? The fact is, many Hirruli-like surnames are shown in a list of Clode/McLeod septs, which now tends to trace Trabys to Clovis Merovingians...as did the Astikas and Radziwills. It's too early to make a Samogitia link to mythical Siemowit, but it's on the table.
It just so happens that the Herod/Hurl surname was first found in Argyllshire -- the Bute Theater!!!
The founder of the Astikas family (or shall we say the first-known Astikas), son of a Radvilas, received the Traby Arms after the Union of HORODlo. The Union was between Lithuanians and Poles. Horodlo is a small location in extreme eastern Poland. (There are several Polish Coat's of Arms shown at the link above, of many families.)
Now read from the Hirtili article above, and perhaps ignore the trace to "forest dwellers":
It is important to determine the locality in which the Heruli lived in Samogitia. Near Klaipeda (Memel) there is a village named "Giruliai".KLAIPEDA??? I kid you not. I lie not. I did not know this until now, AFTER all of the above was written on Claptons. The Clapton location is in Somerset (not very far from a Bude in northern Cornwall, the whole of this region being proto-Arthurian territory). The Samson surname was found first in Gloucestershire, on the northern border of Somerset. I'm convinced already that Samogitians were linked to the Samson surname. CHECKING: "Radstock is a town in Somerset, England, 9 miles (14 km) south west of Bath..." Bath is where the Biden/Button-branch Butteri had clergy, and I view the Bath/Atha clan of Somerset as an Arthurian-Butteri clan (from Baden, Germany) that was part of UTHER Pendragon. Radstock (I'm thinking Radziwills) is in northern Somerset i.e. also near Gloucestershire.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RadstockChecking Somerset details further, Clapton is in Gordano! Wasn't the Gordon surname linked to Vilnius earlier in this update??? I feel like I just pulled Excalibur out of the rock. It turns out that Clapton (a near-coastal location) is almost on the Gloucestershire border. It just can't be a coincidence that Klaipeda was the Samogitia capital.
There has got to be a deck of English cards in Klaipeda somewhere. Let's not forget the weight scales, a Vilnius symbol, in the Ace/Assi surname, for it seemed certain that the deck of cards was in honor of the Clapton bloodline. Where can we find Esau blood near Clapton? The Samson surname, even in Clovis elements of Clapton itself. At the bottom of the North Somerset page, we find a list of locations that includes this quote: "...Clapton in Gordano, Claverham, Clevedon, Cleeve..." Look familiar?
There is a Clevedon Coat (Devon) with Shield-on-Shield (Polish?) showing scallops in colors reversed to the Samson scallops. Not likely coincidental. Remember here, Claptons and Queens/Swans both use the same wolf heads that should trace to the Scylla monster, and it is this wolf-using bloodline, for one anyway, that shows the Excalibur sword.
AHA! "Daumantas" smacks of the Dumnonii founders of Devon and Somerset, whom I trace to LaceDAEMONians. Edomites?
Where the Palemonid genealogy has Daumantas merging with the Palemonids, his line merges with Palemonid rulers of Kernave, which is the place where the Astikas family came forth. The latter show up as castellans of Vilnius in 1419, more than a century after Daumantas' son. Remember here that the Est/East clan uses the same horse-head design (looks like a chess piece) as the Bute/Butt clan, and that the latter uses estoiles to boot, as though the Astikas were from Bute too.
It just so happens that Daumantas is said to be from the Centaurus family. We expect horses there, and Butteri were cowboys. As LaceDaemonians were Spartans, is it possible to trace Centaurs to Sparta? Yes, for Centaurs were children of Ixion, whom I identify as the Cycnus swan line, mate of Leda, the Spartan dragon. It was Leda's son, Castor, that was given a horse symbol, and wasn't Castor, a character that I usually neglect for lack of trace-able data, traced above to Lithuania's Lada, and to Lithuania-suspect Custis' / Casts??
Checking the genealogy with this new info in mind, I find that the second name down the line after Daumantas is KUKOvaitis, duke of Lithuania. Isn't that like the "Cycnus" swan, whom I trace to Kikons and therefore to Ixion (by the way, Ixion in myth was a type/alternative of Zeus)? It makes sense where one of my first suggestions on Daumantas was his identification with the Queen/Swan bloodline.
Isn't it true that the Palemonids myth writer had Ixion's Centaurs on the brain??? Didn't I trace Ixion to Khyan HYKSos, and didn't we see Arthurs of Clapton merged with HICKS (trust me, there is online evidence buried in my writings somewhere of that marriage)?
I identified Khyan Hyksos solidly with the Daphne line, but even before that I traced Daphne to the Dumnonii of Devon! More and more, to my surprise, it seems that "Daumantas" is code for the Daphne-related LaceDaemonians > Dumnonii, and to clinch it, Daphne's sister was MANTO!!!
One can really slash things apart with that EXcalibur in hand? Wasn't it part symbol for Exeter, capital of Devon? Shouldn't this explain why the Excalibur appears to be in the hand of the drawing of the first Lithuanian king (a real person), MINDaugas? He's even on a horse while swinging that sword around; it's the Arms of Lithuania. While you're looking at the Arms, see the motto: "Tautos jega vienybeje" and let me remind that TAUTvilas was Mindaugas' nephew.
The writer of Palemonid myth codes didn't mention Mindaugas nor his son (Vaisvilkas), passing right by them, meaning either that he was their enemy and wished to ignore them, or that they are buried in his codework somewhere. "Mindaugas" almost sounds like Min-dog, since after all the "vilkas" in his son's name means, wolf." On the other hand, "Mind" could be evidence of mythical Manto elements.
Mythical Manto was the foundress, it was said, of Mantova in northern Italy. The implication here may be that Mantova elements had something to do with the Sion/Sitten elements to the Traby line. But then there must have been other Manto elements that could apply. While the historical Daumantas looks like a good candidate for a Manto line, he ruled shortly after MINDaugas, suggesting a possible close kinship.
Did we see a fish in the German Bute Coat? Yes, and there are fish heads in the Geddy Coat and Crest. To prove that Geddys were from Gediminids (the peoples founded by ButiGEIDUS), compare the small white-on-red Shield in the Coat above to the small red-on-white "square" in the Arms of the Gediminids. Then remember that the fish symbol was traced to Cadmus and Harmonia at Butua/Budva (sea-horse symbol), ancestry of the Butteri.
NOW LOOK. The one Clifford Coat using "Semper" in the motto must link to the Cleveland surname using the same motto term. The latter surname also uses, "Semel," no doubt code for Semele, daughter of Cadmus. It just so happens that Cadmus was code for the Hatti peoples on the Halys so that we can expect (C)Halybes among them, which is said because I tend to trace Cleves and Cliffs to "Chalybe."
THEN, it just so happens that Semele was mother to Dionysus the wine man while the Clifford Crest is a wyvern dragon, symbol of dragonliner Veres...who trace themselves to Mitanni Hurrians so that I trace them to the Methoni location, mythicised as a daughter of Oeneus the wine man. I trace the Dionysus Maenads, who smack of Manto and of "DauMANTAS," to Manoah, father of Samson. Hence, the "Semel et SEMPer" motto of the Clevelands (who are in Samson colors).
The Semper surname is said to derive in "Saint Peter." However, here's the write-up: "The family name, descended from St.Perre de Semilly in Manche..." It just so happens that Veres are from the Vere location in Manche, and that "Semilly" smacks of Semele. In this picture, the Semper/Samper surname may be deemed fashioned in that way in honor of Samson and/or the Samson/SAMPson surname. Haven't we just traced Clevelands and nearby Samsons to Samogitia Lithuanians (or were they Poles)? It was the Trabus-character that merged with the Daumantas line that were Samogitians, and it just so happens that near Trabzon there is a Samsun location.
The Semper Coat uses red-on-gold lions, the color of the Lee/Ley/Legh-Coat lion that I trace to Meschin-related Ligurians. However, as Masseys (use the Vere Shield) were in Manche too, I would prefer to make a Massey link to the Sempers from Manche, for the Queen/Swan Coat uses the Macey Shield and Macey gloves. I'm assuming here that Queens/Swans were swan-line Ligurians. Somewhere in this fog there should be a trace to the Daumantas-Traby merger.
Let me put this another way using the Nordic Lapps that are also called Sami. They appear to trace to a Samson cult of Lapiths. Ixion was a Lapith king whom I trace to Aleppo = Halab, a location of the Halybes (in my opinion). I also see Lapiths from "Eliphas," son of Esau, wherefore I see an Esau-ite merger in Halab with Ixion-branch Hyksos. The expected Samson-Ixion relationship therein can be expected in the far north of Europe on the Finland side, where Lapps/Sami lived, and Lithuanian is on the road to Finland. If we're then open to seeing Ixion elements in the Samogitians, we can not only make sense of the Centaurs that the myth writer claimed for Daumantas, but the Cycnus-swan Ligures can be traced to the same Lithuanians. This is important for me because it was the swan-line Ligures that I traced to Sion/Sitten, while it was obvious lately that Lithuanians traced to Sion/Sitten.
Let me add that Tacitus told of a Sitones peoples of Gotland (that region expanded from Sweden to the Finnish shores) that I trace to "Sitten" because he had them living beside Sviones that smack of Savona Ligurians, whom I assume were the swan Ligurians. It just so happens that Cycnus' father, also a mythical Ligurian king, was STHENelus, a Sitone-like term that should link to Sithone Thracians. But there was also a Spartan Sthenelus, suggesting a Sthenelus-of-Liguria trace to Spartans, where the swan line had earlier been.
Let's not forget the Savone clan, first found in Somerset where Halybes-based Claptons and Clavers lived, and where Lithuanians appear to trace.
It just so happens that the same red-on-gold lion design of the Sempers is used by the English Geddy Coat, and the surname was first found in Cornwall. Note the torteaux, for a trace to Yonges can be made via the Scottish-Geddes motto term, "majora." If you've forgotten, Yonges were deemed as proto-Hungarians (or proto-Magyars) on the Ticino river and in Alessandria, where torteaux-depicted Tortona is located. The Major/Magor Chief has already been traced to the Yonge Coat, but it's the greyhound of the Major/Magor Crest that's important here, for it is the Crest also of a John Yonge surname that links to Welsh Trabys. In other words, there is a Traby link to Geddes implied, which tends to trace the Geddes all-the-more certainly to Lithuanian Gediminids...who ruled Lithuania as dukes from 1275, shortly before Daumantas (the latter's line had merged with Trabus) was Lithuanian duke in 1283.
The king of Lithuania of two generations earlier, MinDAUGAS, smacks a little of Dacians, which I say only because Dacians were a tribe of Getae, who smack of the Gediminids. In my opinion, this was all Apollo. It was very much related to the Carpii = Arpii = Arpads.
There was a mythical harp-like Charops of Thrace, grandfather to lyre-depicted Orpheus, whose head a lyre went floating down the Hebros river (where Kikons were born) to Lesbos, an island founded by Lapiths (according to ancients). Charops' son, Oeagrus, was an obvious symbol of the Finno-Ugrians that are known to have brought forth the Magyar/Arpad Hungarians, wherefore Charops did indeed depict the Carpii = Arpii peoples...situated next to Dacians in the Carpathian theater. I was able to trace Charops to "Charib(dis)," where the Samson and Meschin scallops derived, wherefore this picture wildly supports a link of the Samogitians to Ixion's Lapiths, assuring that Daumantas was from Ixion's Centaurs.
It explains why the Majors/Magors are honored in the Geddes motto.
Did we see a small white Shield on red in the Geddes Coat? Yes, and while the Arms of the Gediminids shows a red-on-white square, the Gade/Gotte/Goth Coat shows a small red-on-white Shield. The crossed swords have a handle shape like the one in the hand of Mindaugas. There is a good chance that this surname links to Swedish Gusts, said to be from "Gaut" or "Goth." From "Gust" one then goes to the Gastons, relatives of Traby/Sadowski "Q" liners.
The Geddes fish are called pike for the likely reason that the Pikes (trefoils), first found in Devon (no surprise now), are related. Remember, trefoils are a symbol of Traby-related Trips/Treffs, who use the Massey boot as probable symbol of Traby-based Poles / Masovians on Bute. On the other hand, the English Trabys use a scala = ladder, and it could be that the weight scales of Vilnius is code for the same Scylla location at Messina. But trefoils may have been clovers earlier, code for the Cliffs and Cleaves, etc, whom you seen work well into the Lithuanian-suspect elements of the Devon or Cornwall peninsula.
Recalling that the Arms of Vilnius uses "spes," by what coincidence is it that the same term is used by Caldwells/Coldwells (who were traced to Poland on the one basis of "Cold") and pikes!?! NOW as we saw that the Arms of Vilnius uses waves that are found also in the related Custes/Cash Coat, what about the waves in the other Scottish Coldwell Coat??? The latter Coldwells were already traced (last update) to Vilnius by its "fac et: motto phrase.
AHA! As per the Guildwell variation of Coldwells, "Quil" was entered (may be related to "VILnius") to find a "spero" motto term; not only is the Coldwell motto, "fac et spero," but Coldwells were first found in Renfrewshire, where Speers were first found. It makes one think that Speers were also of Lithuanians. The Quils are properly, Quail/Quayle. Uh-oh, another 'Q'. The clan was first found on the Isle of Man.
I used to think that Stewarts seized Bute as soon as they got to the Irish throne (14th century), but according to the following account (compliments of GD), they had it even before that:
Olaf II of the Isle of Man, also known as Olaf the Black, was King of the Isle of Man from 1229-1237 [about the time that Douglas-like Mindaugas was ruling Lithuania]...Olaf was driven out of Man by Alan, Lord of Galloway [a Stewart]... and forced to flee to Norway for assistance...[Olaf's] force invaded the Isle of Bute and captured Rothesay Castle which was held by the powerful Stewart dynasty...This account with Stewarts controlling Rothesays jibes with my understanding that proto-Alan-of-Dol vikings, the raven-depicted Stour-surnamed Vikings, had conquered Rothesay. Thank you GD for finding this account. It explains why Stewarts re-captured Bute as soon as they became kings of Scotland.
How does this play into the Bute connections to Lithuania, and the fact that president Washington was linked to Stewarts? By what coincidences were they that the Bute-suspect Lithuanian duke was of the period shortly after the Stewart loss of Rothesay and Man, and that GD comes up big with this Nov-1 email...opened on the very day that the below was written?? What about that Guil surname that seems to be a Vilnius one, first found on Man?
As Daumantas (Lithuanian duke in 1283, before Stewarts regained Bute) was succeeded by ButeGEIDis (Wikipedia claims that their relationship is unknown), I think that Bude in Cornwall plays excellently into the Butegeidis bloodline as per the Geddes / Gades of Cornwall / Devon, for Bude is about as close to the Devon theater as Cornwallers can get. I'm actually quite shocked at how well this is all coming together. It's shocking that Bute, one of my most emphasized entities, should trace to obscure Lithuania. I'd like to know more details.
If it can be shown that the Daumantas and/or Butegeidis was in Bute, then why not also king-MinDAUGAS elements...that may have named Douglas', or vice versa? It's just a theory at this time, just a hunch, from some Slaboda-evidence. I'm keeping in mind that Douglas' were of Bute too, merged with the Rorys of Bute, that is. The quote said the Stewarts had taken Bute from Somerled, the Rory line.
It just so happens that, years before tracing "Daumantas" to "Dumnonii" (as per this very update), I traced "Dumnonii" to Irish "Domnanns" who became (it's obvious to me, even if no one else makes the link) the Domhnullds = MacDonalds, immediate ancestors of Somerled, who I thought was named after Somerset, where Dumnonii lived. Was Daumantas (duke immediately before a Bute-named duke) a MacDonald in Lithuania, or better yet a Rory of Bute...or a Douglas-Rory of Bute. See what I'm saying? Is (Dau)MANTAS and/or MIN(daugas) from the Isle of Man? Remember, Manto was Daphne's sister, and Daphne founded, or partook in founding, the Dumnonii theater around Devon.
[[[ LONG AND HEROD-IMPORTANT INSERT -- Recalling that Pontius' Pilate's birth was from the Duffs as they evolved from Daphne of the Dumnonii, through Diva of Cheshire and finally to the Picts of Fife / Perthshire theater, let's look at how MacDonalds fit into his birth. First, their "Mare" motto term is for the Meres and deMeres of Cheshire because they use the MacDonald ship. It suggests that Donalds had been from Meres in the first place, probably Merovingians, but let's not lose sight of the Ferte eagle on the MacDonald ship, for Ferte>Maceys were also Cheshire. It suggests that Maceys (no surprise, Maccabee elements) came into contact with the line that produced Pilate, even as that idea had been presented before, when on the Duff trace to Pilate.
It just so happens that the French Mare/Mar/Merre/More Coat (surname first in Burgundy) was one of the first that I had ever linked to Pontius Pilate not many updates ago. The reason was for it's "ram" code that I linked to French Rams/Roms with a Macey Shield (Pilate colors) and Mackay-like motto term ("Quod"). The Rams/Roms are said to be of Grenons, whom I view as Gernons, the name of le Meschin's son. I merely had a strong feeling that Mars and Rams/Roms together were in the Pilate line; it was just the beginning.
Not long afterward, it was found that Yonges were very close to the birth of Pilate, and they were first found, as with Rams/Roms, in Essex. It was concluded that Pilate was born to king Cole elements from Essex, though in the Callam/Cole and Celt/Cult branches of the bloodline. At this point, Coldwells ("Fac et" phrase) can be added to that bloodline, making the "facias" motto term of the Rams/Roms suspect as a Vilnius code too.
Before going on, let me share what last night brought to bear. Tim and Julie had both sent in some info on the Herods. Wikipedia's article on Herodians claimed that one son of Herod the Great was banished to Vienne, France, jibing with Julie's claim that Herods should be found in southern France. We can ask, why France? Often, when worldly-important people are exiled, it's because jailing or killing them would do more political harm than good, and often the ones being exiled have the choice of where to be exiled. Again, why Vienne? Did Herods have family there, somehow? An interesting point in this is that the Roman senate had voted to make Herod the Great "king of the Jews." Thanks, Tim, for the Herodian article. Here's the one on Herod the Great. We read that Herod was in submission to the Maccabee line then ruling in Israel.
Another son of Herod was exiled to Spain. When the Herod line went extinct in Jerusalem, these other Herods could have carried the line on...to the Arthurian cult.
In Julie's email, there was a fictitious story on Pilate that had him in Sicily after leaving Judea, and as the fictitious story was based on realities, that Sicily idea had to come from some historical report.
Then an idea dawned, that to find Herod lines in Spain or France, or wherever, we need to find surnames that honor the names of children of wives of Herods. Herod the Great had two wives, Miriam, or MARY, and his father was AntiPATER. Herod gave the latter name to a son. The Sempers are said to be from "saint Peter," and PATTERson could apply, especially as Patterson scallops link to the Mary-like MAREs.
The Mares/Merres uses scallops in Moray star colors, suggesting the Mieszko- or Moravia-line Merovingians (same as Mackays), especially as white scallops are used also by Meschins (and Samsons). It can then be seen that the two lions in the Scottish Mare Coat are identical (aside from colors and size) to the two lions in the Semper Coat (le-Meschin-lion colors), a Samson-related clan from Semilly, Manche, where Maceys and Masseys were from, and near where Meschins were from. You can bet at minimum your pine cones that AntiPATER Herods trace to Semilly, and were, therefore, all over Manche...which I tend to trace to the Manx of the Isle of Man.
REMEMBER, the Arms of the Isle of Man are like the Arms of Sicily, and Pilate was, apparently, in Sicily...not only where Meschin and Samsons scallops have been traced (you get the implication), but where Moray' Moors have been traced.
MOREOVER WOW, here's from the Antipater article: "According to Josephus, [Antipater, father of Herod the Great] was the son of Antipas (I)...According to Africanus and Epiphanius, he was the son of Herod (I) of Ascalon" I trace "Ascalon" to "escallop i.e. the scallap symbol of Scylla = Sicily! I had even traced Mieszko (alternative name, "Dagome") to a Samson-related Dagon cult, and Dagon was in Ascalon. Suddenly, the Samson and Meschin scallops are tracing to the family of Herod the Great!!! It's no wonder that Meschins and Masseys are figuring into this Herod discussion.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antipater_the_IdumaeanWOW-WOW SOME MORE. Dagon's wife was Shala, which was identified as a version of "Ascalon" itself, and then we find Salome names in the Herod family. It might just be that Salome elements trace to Salyes and then to Sales-of-Mascy. From the Antipater article again: "Antipater was married to Cypros, a Nabataean noblewoman{citation needed}. They had four sons: Phasael, Herod, Joseph, and Pheroras, and a daughter, Salome, one of several Salomes among the Herodians." Don't tell me that "Pheroras" traces to Ferraris of northern Italy.
The Salemans (in the colors of the Salmons/Samons) use a Coat like the Sales, and when entering "Salome," the Salamon/Salaman/Solomon Coat comes up with yet another (this time, red) bend. It's not necessarily true that these surnames trace to "Solomon" at their origins.
ZOWIE, the Salmons/Samons use the motto, "Optima sapientia probitas." The Slaboda Coat not only uses a SALAMander, but the write-up traces to Herod-suspect Ruthenes=Redones, and to a Polish family like the "sapientia" motto term above: "First found in Slepowron in Polesie, the largest province of Poland. It is inhabited by Ruthenians, called Polesians, of Ukrainian descent...It was in this province that the renowned Radziwills and Sapiehas held their vast estates."
The "probitas" motto term of the Salop-like Slabodas (Sales were first found in the Salop area) smacks of the Proper surname with Probyn, Probin and Proby variations! Ratcliffes/Radcliffe use "propter" in their motto, remember. Both the Sales and the Propers were first found in Cheshire, and Propers use a key (in a ostrich's mouth) as well as the Mackie/MacKEY lion. That tends to clinch the Salmon trace to Sales-of-Masci, wherefore it tends to assure that Salyes Ligurians were from Herod-related Salomes.
It doesn't matter to me at all if it proves wrong to trace the salamander to "Scamander" (father of mythical Teucer) and his Teucer-of-Salamis line, but then Salome may have been named after Salamis elements. IT JUST SO HAPPENS that Teucer's Salamis location was the one on Cyprus, and Antipater's wife, the mother of Herod "the great," was Cypros!!!!!!!!!!
IF THAT"S NOT ENOUGH, I had traced Salyes to Sullivans without doubt, and Sullivans use a black boar, a symbol of Esau! Sullivans then trace well to Kilpatricks, now suspect as the Antipater line. The mystery has been solved. All the clans that I have been emphasizing, all of which link to the heart of Vere-Illuminati and Vere-Freemasonry, were Herod-and-associates lines. Julie would like to tell me, "I told you so," for she was trying to get me onto the Herod topic years ago, but I wouldn't go. I kept telling her that the time was not yet. The time came after the half-hour of "silence."
The "optima" motto term of the Salmons/Samons smacks of Timna, the wife of Eliphas, from Bozrah no doubt. The Timna line was traced to the Timm/Time surname (goat in crest), and it to the "Deum time" motto of the Morays/Murrays. When the end-time half-hour of silence comes (at the seventh Trumpet), it will be Doom Time for end-time Edomites. The idea of having Herod "the great dog" rule over Israel by order of the Romans is, in my mind, a giving of evil Israel over to Edomite upon Edomite, for if the Biblical dragon came from Edom's Lotan (father of Timnah) in the first place, it's a given that Romans were from Edomites.
The BUTTERI LATINS, who I think were at the root of the PATRician emperors (starting with Julius Caesar, who conquered Israel), probably trace to "Bozrah" and "Lotan." So, in 70 AD, Israel was destroyed by...Esau-ites and Lotanites.
I can now decipher the Sullivan Coat more confidently than before. The Sullivan Chief uses the Mackesy sword and green snake, and the red-on-gold lions to its side are the Ranulf-le-Meschin lions, used also by the Lee/Ley/Legh Ligurians...who are of course relations of the Salyes Ligures that make up the Sullivans. The so-called "robin" in Crest, which is also the Kay bird, links to the Robin variation of Propers. Just like that, there is excellent evidence of a trace of Proper-related SLABodians to "Salop," where Meschins were first found. We've already seen that the Sullivan motto term links to the Kilpatrick motto term, thus dragging AntiPATERs into the Salyes entity.
It's just a theory in birth at this moment that Herod the Great's line went to the Mares/Merres, and therefore to Merovingians, and to Peter-like surnames that link to Patricks and Pattersons, but it's also a whole new ball game here at tribwatch park.
The Ram/Rom surname has, of course, a Roman look to it. It begins to appear on several fronts that the Vilnius Lithuanians, especially those in the Cornwall peninsula, were part of the Pilate line, or shall we say that the Pilate line ended up in the Merovingian>Astikas bloodline. First, the Mare/Merre scallops are the colors of the Patterson/Cussane scallops, and "Cussane" has already been traced, long before the Vilnius topic, to the Cass'/Cash's that are now known (from their scallop like scales) to be from Vilnius elements.
The Cussane link to Cass/Cashes was not made hard, but I maintained it nevertheless, only to find days ago that "Custes" brought the Coat up.
Having just traced Lithuanians to the Cornwall peninsula to my satisfaction, I can add that the Patterson write-up traces the clan to Irish Sodhans (smack of Sadducee"), while Sodans/Sowdons were first found in Devon, and use scallops in colors reversed to the Patterson/Cussanes.
The Patterson scallops are also colors reversed from the Mares/Merres/Mores (!!!), and then the Sodhan/Sowden fesse is identical to one in the Scottish More/Muir/Moor Coat. The latter clan was first found in Ayrshire, which is the other Lithuanian-related theater, the Bute theater. In fact, the Morgan lion is used by Irish More/Moor Coat. This is all good, for Fay-Morgans of Bute were the Fie-Duffs of Fife, even as the Duffy Coat uses the Morgan lion too. We are right on the Pilate track here, and we just caught a good reason for linking Pattersons-Mares to a major Herod line. In fact, I had already traced (lightly) the Patterson scallops, and the Meschins, to A Coruna in north-western Spain...i.e. where we should seek the line of the Herod that was exiled to Spain.
It's a good thing that I myself am from one of these suspected Herod lines so that, if any reader with pertinent surnames/bloodlines feels offended, me too.
NOTE: the Cornwall-peninsula and Bute theaters were also two Arthurians theaters, and Fay-Morgans link to the Arthurian cult.
At this point I'd like to show something new, and then carry on with the Patterson/Cussane topic. I had traced "five" to the Vivian/Vey surname (Cornwall, ancestry of king Arthur), and therefore to the Fife/Phyfe surname, and here it seems to be paying off. The Five/Fify Coat uses what looks like the red-on-gold personal lion of Ranulf le Meschin, on the Mare/Merre Shield. THEN, the Arthur Coat uses symbols that look like '5', and the Irish Arthurs use "hurts." It suggests the Arthur-of-Cornwall (i.e. Vivians/Veys) link to Fife. The Fives/Fifys (Aberdeenshire, near Fife) use gold stars, perhaps the Moor/More stars.
The Patterson/Cussane camel not only links to king Cole's Camulodunum, which is to say that it traces to the line of Pontius Pilate, but to the camel in the Pepin Crest...a surname traced (by me) to "Pavia/Papia," itself traced to "Fife/Phyfe." NOW THIS IS AMAZING, for Pavia is next to Tortona, and Tortona has become important lately for reasons that haven't at all been fully clear. The red torteaux were linked to Herods only theoretically, but I now see that, while Herods of the Mare/Moor kind are tracing to Moray, the Innes' of Moray had been traced to the Ince/Ines that use torteaux. In this picture, we can begin to understand why and how the Inces/Ines' may have been from "Annas," father of Caiaphas, and from the Ananes of Piacenza, not far from Tortona. The Laevi were very near, and no doubt in, Tortona.
THE AMAZING PART is that I've routinely emphasized the Alessandria theater where Tortona is found, and then Herod the Great named another son, Alexander! "Alexander, son of Herod was born about 35 BC; died about 7 BC. His mother was the Hasmonean princess Mariamne...Herod's attempt to humiliate Alexander by restoring to honor Antipater, an older son by another wife, resulted disastrously." Herod had Alexander executed for treason.
Is this not at all fascinating and sickening all at once? What other Alexanders were there that Mary-liners carried to the West? Or was the Alexander line above the very one at Alessandria? We of course ask: was the Merovingian cult that brought forth the proposed Mary-Magdalene bloodline in reality a Mary-of-Herod bloodline? You can bet your purple robe that it's far more likely than Jesus birthing children with Mary Magdalene.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander,_son_of_HerodBy what coincidence was it that I traced the Alis surname from Alessandria to the Alis/Alice names used by the Meschin-Skipton merger in Yorkshire, where Skiptons use a purple lion?
I'm becoming beside myself as I seek evidence for this new theory on Herods. As per Doris, the wife of Herod the great who gave birth to his first son, AntiPATER, the Doris Coat was just checked to find D'Oris and Orris variations, smacking of the Orrs (piles) and Oriels/Orells treated recently, that were linked to Yonges, themselves traced to Alessandria!!! UGH LOOK: the Oriel/Orrel Coat uses the Ince torteaux!!!
IF THAT"S NOT ENOUGH, the Orr/Ore Coat uses a torteaux too, and piles in the colors of the Doris/Orris Coat...AND to the chagrin of emailer Pollock (with the purple disease), Orrs were first found in Renfrewshire, while "Jewish" Pollocks use nearly the same bend as the Doris/Orris bend.
The Doris surname was first found in Dauphine (Dumnonii elements are suspect there), where the Valery surname was first found that had linked solidly to Tuttels. One with a Tuttle bloodline that used to write to me also has the purple disease (porphyry). We are told that it was named after purple urine, but could that be a cover-up to the reality?
Le Meschin married a Lucy of Lincolnshire, while Lacys (easily traceable to Yorkshire Skiptons) also use purple lions. English Peters/Petrys not only use mascles and Meschin/MASCULine colors, but were first found in Lincolnshire, where I expect Herods based on a trace of "Herod" to "Rhodes" and "Redone" (I solidly trace Rhodians and Redones to Lincolnshire).
Herods father, AntiPATER, was an Edomite, and in southern Edom was Petra. However, my inclination has been to trace Pattersons and Patricks to Roman Patricians. Antipater may have been named after them. If so, I would also view Antipater as a Butteri line, which I trace to "Bozrah." It's possible, I suppose, for "Petra" (rock) to have evolved from "Bozrah." I did an exercise not long ago on how "rock" and "father" are related terms to "house," and then "Bute" is like "Bet(h)," the Hebrew word for "house."
The Peters even use a peacock in Crest, while the Peacock clan -- also using gold mascles -- is a Pollock sept!!!!! In fact, the Peacock fesse is in the white-on-red of the Pollock and Doris/Orris bends. All use red Shields. The "major" motto term of Peters may link to the Majors/Magors that I link to Yonges. Majors/Magors, who are traced in their write-up to "spear," were first found on Guernsey, what I link to Meschins of the Foots kind. Both the Foots (see last update for details) and the Major/Magor anchor trace to Vilnius.
It reminds me of a childhood friend with Peterson surname. His Peterson father was Polish, an indication to me now that Peters and Petersons had crosses paths with Poles. To this it can be added that and a "pelican proper" is the Peterson Crest, while Propers use an ostrich (i.e. Polish symbol).
It just so happens that Speers were first found in Renfrewshire too, and that Pollocks are a sept of Maccabee-suspect Maxwells, who use the Patrick saltire. Petersons use a similar, white-on-black cross.
ZIKERS!!! The Patrick motto uses "ora"!!! Compare the colors of the Shields-on-Shields of the Doris/Orris' to that of the Patricks. The famous hockey player, Bobby Orr, was born in PARRY Sound (Ontario).
There is even a MajorDOMO clan in Spain (Navarre) that is highly suspect now as a Herod line of Edomites. The Majordomo Coat uses a Shield of nothing but black and white checks, a design in the mysterious floor of a Magdalene-cult related church in Rennes le Chateau (Languedoc, near Spain). It just so happens that "Renfrew" traces to Rennes of Brittany, and can therefore trace also to Rennes le Chateau. The Wren Coat: PURPLE LIONS!!!
ASTOUNDING! Aside from Wrens using a broken spear as evidence of a link to Renfrew's Speers, the Wren write-up: "They were originally from Rennes in Normandy where they also held lands from their Lord, William de Aubigny of Belvoir." When I emphasized Vienne several months ago, it was as per a trace there of Beaumonts/Belmonts that I thought had been related to Bellamys. I now find a Herod line tracing to "Belvoir," making the latter clan suspect as the Herod line in Vienne. Keep in mind here that both French Majors and Wrens use black-on-white chevrons, and that the majors were first found in southern France's Provence.
Provence was home to the Salyes Ligures whom I typically link to Laevi Ligurians, and it just so happens that, via the Solana surname of Spain, I was able to link Navarre to Novara, home of the Laevi. By what coincidence is it that Spanish Majors were of Navarre while French Majors, in the same colors, were of the Salyes theater. I traced Salyes to "Sol," or Helios, and that jibes with the Spanish Sol/Solana surname (Catalonia). The sun that is the only symbol of the latter is also the symbol on one side of a Herod-the-Great coin (shown at his Wikipedia article).
That sun in the Herod coin is further evidence of his trace to Rhodians, but now we can peg him amongst the Salyes Redones, traced to the Sales-of-Mascy. Remember here that when I first discovered the Pilate line in the Rams/Roms, Rompuy, the current EU "king," came to mind because the Pilates were found in the ram/Rom surname at the very time that I was tracing Solanas to the Laevi. I believe that was the 4th update of September. The Solana trace to Novara was hinged on the Quoid / Quay variations of Mackays, and finding the "Quod" motto term of the Mackay-Shielded Rams/Roms clinched the trace to the Mares of Pilate, now suspect as Herods too.
We would expect that Herods of Spain got mixed up with Herods of Vienne. I don't yet understand why Herods would be part of the Major bloodline, except for the Major link to the Wrens that just came up. It then suggests that Herods of Spain were in Rennes of Brittany as well as at Rennes le Chateau. The proposed trace of Vienne's Herods above to BelVOIRS recalls the recently-discussed Voirs of Brittany (!!), linked to Pendragons...and to Gripps!!!! Herod AGRIPPA!!!!!! It's working like clockwork. It's Deum Time for the mother of all revelations.
The Voir write-up: "First found in Brittany where this distinguished family held a family seat at Gripel and Penhoet, and were members of the aristocracy of that region." Gripps/Grabbers use a Craver variation smacking of Skipton-related Cravens that were traced to HERZegovina. Gripps/Grabbers were also traced (by me, suggestively) to the ancestry of the Arthurs in "GabRAIN." It just so happens that the Rains/Reyns surname (chevron in colors reversed to the Wrens), kin to the Reagan surname, was from Rennes of Brittany (as the Rains motto term, "Judicium", confirmed to me). This is all royal blue-pee blood.
Peacocks, as you may have noted in the link way-above on Polish heraldry, are Polish symbols, and it's the blue Indian peacock that's often used, as is the case in the Peacock Coat. Is that code for blue pee??? Note the purplish tinge to the Peacock peacocks, same as the purplish tinge to the blue porpoises (e.g. of the Reagans)? The rains are said to be from "Ragin." Shouldn't this explain why emailer Pollock has porphyry, since she is not only from Pollocks, but Pollocks were first found in a Renfrew region sorely-inflicted with porphyry genes.
The Voirs/Voyers (Mackie / Mackesy lions) were introduced in the first place as per the "voir" motto term of Oliphants (big thanks to Tim for that surname only recently), solidly traced to Eliphas Edomites. The Oliphants use a "Tout" motto term linking to Tuttels/Toothills. Oliphants were first found in Perthshire and are therefore highly suspect as Edomites merged with Pilate blood of Perthshire.
I can barely recall what I was going to say in regard to the Patterson trace to Lithuanians. The Herod topic hi-jacked me. Ah yes, Pattersons traced both to Mares/Merres and to Devon's Sodhans, and the Geddys/Gideons, who use a version of a Mare Coat, were Lithuanians, first found in Cornwall. The Geddy/Gideon lion is the Mare lion too, and the Semper lion exactly, colors included. This recalls the Samogitia and Gediminid Lithuanians.
The new point now (I'm being hi-jacked again) is that Sempers look like Patterson-related Peters of the AntiPater > Herod line. I'm keeping in mind that the Scottish Pattersons use the Polish pelican symbol, and that they were first found in Ross-shire, while Ross' (who use the same fork-tailed lion, though upright) should trace to Redones. German Roos', who were linked to Yonges, were first found in Silesia.
HI-JACK! The Getty/Gideon Coat above uses...torteaux!!!!! I was going to be on the Geddes topic anyway, as per the Patterson discussion, before discovering that Herods trace to the torteaux of Alessandria!
MORE HI-JACKING! The Scottish-Geddes motto uses "majora'!!!!! It's raining stinking purple robes. The Geddes "square" (as I call it) is in the colors of the "Jewish" Pollock bend, the color of the Doris/Orris bend, expected where the Major bloodline was just linked to Wrens. As per the Geddes pikes, the Pike Coat is in the same colors, and Pikes (trefoil, think Trabys) were first found in Devon. Scottish Pikes were first found in the other Lithuanian theater, Ayrshire.
This is a good place to repeat an ancient theory of mine, that the Getae Thracians had been the goat-line Satyrs...from Seir Edomites.
In the last update, pikes were traced to Lithuania via the pikes in the Coldwell Coat. Again, Coldwells were first found in Renfrewshire. In the past, I've trace the "In deo" motto phrase to the blue INDIan peacock," and now I find that Caldwells use, "In deo spes." They also show a cock in Crest. Scottish Caldwells (Yonge piles, "Fac et spera") use waves, one wave being in colors reversed to the Pollock wave.
Earlier, it was said: "AHA! As per the Guildwell variation of Coldwells, "Quil" was entered (may be related to "VILnius") to find a "spero" motto term; not only is the Coldwell motto, "fac et spero"..." I now come to a "Domine spes" motto phrase (Vilnius uses "spes") in a Scottish Gill Coat.
As per the trace of Vilnius elements to Sion, there's a "Sine Deo" phrase in an English Guil/Gull/Kull Coat. It was the "Sine" term of the Justins that tipped us off to a Vilnius link to Sion. French Guils/Du Guills: Brittany. AND Petersons use, "Nihil sine Deo."
Spanish Gills/Gildez' are from SantANDER (north Spain). The Arms of Santander use a chain (as with Navarre), recalling the chains in the Quoid and Quay Coats that were instrumental in linking Solanas to Novara, near Tortona in AlessANDRia. Like the Coldhams and Vilnius, the Arms of Santanders uses waves. Suddenly, we have here another Herod-suspect line. Santander is in Cantabria, and the Arms of Cantabria (more waves) uses what could be construed as a white-on-red roundel (a "plate") which, in colors reversed becomes a torteaux. Anderincidence?
CANTabria could trace to the Centaurs that were said by the myth writer to be the ancestry of Daumantas (Lithuanian duke), who may have been related to Douglas-suspect Mindaugas (king of Lithuania). Recalling the discussion where these Lithuanian rulers seemed to trace well were traced to Douglas' of Bute Stewarts, by what coincidence is it that the Brittany Guils/Du Guills smack of "Dougal." Dougals / Dowells use a lion in colors reversed to the Bute lion, and were first found in Galloway, where Alan, Lord of Galloway ruled.
Note the Dol-like variations in the Dowel-Coat page. I think I'm convinced that Dowells and Dougals, and perhaps even Douglas', were rooted in "Dole." Yes, Douglas' and Stewarts went to war over Bute, but that doesn't mean they weren't related. A link of Douglas' to "Dole" tends to trace blue-blood Stewarts to Lithuanian rulers. The fact that Guils/De Guillos were from Brittany while Guil-like surnames seem to trace to Lithuania helps to convince me. Dougals use "Vincere" and Stewarts use "Vincit," speaking to me of the da-Vinci-code garbage that seeks to trace the bloodline of Jesus and Magdalene to southern France.
Let's not forget that Stewarts were highly concentrated in Renfrewshire, where Coldwells were first found.
THEN, we saw in a quote above that this very Alan of Galloway invaded the Isle of Man. By what coincidence is it that the Quils above (properly, Quail/Quayle) were first found in the Isle of Man? The Quils/Quails not only use "spero," but "ero spero," smacking of the "ora" motto (of Patricks) term that had linked so well to the Doris/Orris line of AntiPATER > Herod. The Doris/Orris line itself traced excellently to Renfrew, home of Speers. The Quil/Quayles Shield is even the same chevron as the Wrens and Majors. Scottish Geddes (Coldwell-related) use, 'MajORA."
Tim just sent in the Ormond Coats in respect of the Orr / Oriel topic, and two Ormond Coats come up as the grail-using Butlers. No Ormund-like variations are listed, however. It simply suggests that Orrs were fundamental with Butlers. I believe that it's a pelican in one Ormond/Butler Crest.
Quils/Quayles also use "Qualis" in their motto, and then the Callis term brings up the Cailey/Callis Coat that is a Shield much like that of the Kills/Keeles. The Cailey/Callis Coat is the one with "Callide" motto term traced to the Pilate-related Caledonians. It's no surprise that the Quils/Quayles have been a topic here as per Coldwells/CALDwells, therefore.
Again, Caldwells use the Yonge piles, Scottish Pattersons use A pelican feeding her YOUNG. The Patterson pelicans-on-nest are not quite the Stewart pelicans-on-nest, but the line back to Nestor of Pylos can be made for both clans, and besides, if Pattersons were of the Herods, why not Stewarts, who all on their own seem at this point to trace to Herods of Renfrewshire.
The English Stewart lion is the Ulman lion, wherefore Stewarts are of the Yonge-Hungarian bloodline, and as we see above in the Patterson motto, Scottish Pattersons are link-able to Youngs. We assume the Scottish Youngs, and indeed they are the Yonges who use the Coldwell piles.
It's been a while since I've emphasized it, but Yonges were suspect as the high-priest line that killed Jesus.
I'm convinced already that God brought to my mind last night to seek for surnames reflecting Herod's family members. It was time for this Revelation (capital 'R' means not mine), you see, for about the same time last night, I wrote emailer Patterson lamenting that, yesterday, while on the Lithuanian topic (below, after this long Insert), I experienced for the first time in years, perhaps ever, a half hour with nothing to write on. I lamented to her that I had to poke around for a half hour wondering what to write on next. That never happens. It was like the half-hour sign of silence in book of Revelation (exaggerating, of course). Morning after morning, I never get done what needs to be said. But in yesterday's poking, I was beginning to wonder whether it was a sign that the Revelation was coming to an end, though it was suggested to emailer Patterson, that, perhaps, there was to be a new direction. And here I am the next morning with stunning news...that even involves the Patterson surname centrally. End Insert ]]]
The Traby/Sadowski "Q" is called the Arms of Nalecz. possibly named after "Alec/Alex" elements (note in the list of surnames that Poles don't like to start them with vowels, except for "O"). In the list of clans who use it, Traby is not found, even though houseofnames has Trabys registered for that Arms. However, there is a Trawinski in the list that smacks of the Trew/True surname (greyhounds), first found in Warwickshire (= potential Warsaw elements), and having a location named after themselves in Devon. There is also the Treby surname, first found in Devon.
The Trew greyhounds are between two bendlets reminding of the Ince / Inch Coat (torteaux), if that helps to trace the John-Yonge greyhound to Tortona. This item alone could trace the "Alex" that I see in "Nalecz" to Alessandria. [Insert - This had been written before the insert above, wherefore, for the time being it means that the Nalecz family is from Herod's son, Alexander, or a closely-related Alexander. It can indicate that king Andrew of Hungary could be from those Herod elements. I should add here that, in the 3rd update of October, Tortona was traced to Thortons and Hortons, what appeared to be a Herod line. To make it short here, that update had this line: "...Hurt>Horton>Thorton>Ince/Inis>Innes Herods." To find good evidence in this update that the Doris/Orris clan also traces to Tortona could even suggest that the place had been named after "Orris" elements. One implication in the Thorton / Horton discussion was that "Tortona" may have evolved from "D'Orton." Remember, Orrs and Orells use torteaux.
Both Hortons and Horts use stags, the Hungarian-Arpad symbol. That is, it makes sense to trace Hungarians, and therefore king Andrew, to Alessandria and Tortona. If I have been correct in tracing the stag to "Heneti" as per "ANTLer," then let me remind that the Heneti -- whom I trace to the goddess, Anat, symbol of antler-like ANATOLia -- were depicted by mythical Antenor. I had traced "ANTIochus" to Antenor Heneti, and we now have an ANTIpater, son of Herod and Doris, that could trace to Tortona and area. The Hungarians claimed that their stag traced to mythical Magor and the Biblical Nimrod, but then the "rod" of that latter term also makes for Rhodians>Redones...and "Herod." End Insert].
The Polish families using the Arms of Ossorya are suspect as a branch of Ossory in Ireland, for as the Kilpatrick-branch Butteri lived in Ossory, so we find the Arms of Ossorya linked by this page to the honor of TvirBUTAS or TwerBUT. The Arms use three white ostrich feathers, and a cartwheel...probably code for Piast the Wheelwright. The battle cry is: "Hosoryja, Osoryja, Szarza," and the Arms has the alternative names of Poswit, Szarza, and Sztarza. It may sound crazy, but because I traced Esau's city of BOZrah to Boscath in Hebron, where I envisioned the proto-Butteri, the terms above sure do look like what Esau, Seir, Horites, and Bozrah might have modified to, by the time they reached Poland.
The other families using three white ostrich feathers are listed under the Arms of Dryja, with alternative name, Mutina. One family name listed is TRABczynski.
The Traby "Q" was tackled in the 2nd update of June, 2000. None of anything written since then, including this update, was fashioned to co-ordinate/harmonize with the things of that update. I've just gone to that update now:
We note that the talbot in the Lothian/Louden Coat is under the Traby-colored bugle, which bugle was so important to Lothians that they used it also in their Crest. Possibly, the Lowden variation of the surname connects to the SadLOWski variation of the Traby>Sadowski family...What's more interesting is that the Traby location in central Poland is in Lodz province [i.e. compares with C-less versions of "CLODweg"]. Coincidence?Was that province named after Clovis? Are Trabys mainline Merovingian blood of "sacred" royal descent? The Traby location is in a county called LOWicz. Is that "Louis"?
I made the point of viewing Sad(l)owskis as Sads, and entering "Sad" brought the Saddle surname...now suspect as a Butteri line. At that time, when I knew nothing of Butteri, Sads/Saddles had been traced to the Uat/Buto cult by way of the Says, Seatons, Sitlers, and Leightons/Latons. In my mind, this was the house of proto-Masseys that I see fundamentally as the ruling Hyksos of Egypt (the ones who named Moses). As you can see, Saddles use the same as the Massin/Mason Coat, of obvious importance to Masons.
We've seen above that Trabys linked to Speer elements out of Poland, and then Massins/Masons honor Speers in their motto. The Timms/Times were first found in Kent, as with Massins/Masons, and both use the same colors, suggesting that the Timm/Time fleur-de-lys are those of the Italian Mascis. The Melusine of the Massin/Mason Crest assured that Timms/Times led to Moray, for aside from a "Deum time" motto, Morays also use Melusine.
I don't mention it much, but the Mossynoeci lived in Trabzon. Entering "Mossy" gets a Shield in colors reversed to the Say and Laton Shields. I maintain a wild theory that the Mossynoeci had, in earlier years, named Moses.
Sitlers (trefoil in Traby/Sadowski colors suggests Traby and Tripp/Treff family) were first found in Silesia, a place that I trace to the Salyes fold. Having now understood that Salyes (and probably the Salassi of Aosta) were named in honor of a Herod-related "Salome," it begins to appear, to me anyway, that "Salome" was a Seleucid term. The doom-time anti-Christ will be a Seleucid somehow, says Daniel's chapters 8 and 11. Like the Sitlers and Saddlers, I traced the Mieszko Poles (especially Siemowit) to the Uat/Buto cult, but them Mieszko himself, in Wikipedia's Dagome article, is traced to Sardinia, the location of Sulcis...which I figure named Silesia as per the Mieszko elements in Silesia.
Sitlers and Saddlers, Says, and Seatons of Sayton, were traced to Sais in Egypt, a Uat-Buto center, and the cult was then traced to Abydos in Mysia, across the waters from a Says- and Sais-like Sestus location. Later it was realized that Mysia was named by the same proto-Massey house that had named Moses (he wasn't named by his mother, but by pharaoh's household). It was gleaned that Abydos was a Bozrah location because "Buto" had been traced to "BOZrah" elements, that idea jibing with the Butteri of Boscath that I likewise trace to BOZRah.
Abydos had been identified, at that time, with Revelation 9's "Abaddon," and therefore with Apollo. It indicates that Apollo was from Edom, and beside, "Sais" was entertained as an Esau term. Apollo had earlier been identified as Avvites, and Avvites had a city ruled by Edomites, called Avith." It also makes sense that Apollo traces to Lotan because Apollo's mother was Latona and Leto. As Lotan was a Seir-ite, my later trace of Apollo to Arados/Arpad, in Syria, made for some Seir-sense. All of these migrations and cult links took place before Herod the great dog was born. Jesus even called one Herod a fox, that jibing with the Avvite god (Nibhaz) that is sometimes equated with the Egyptian jackal (much like a fox) god, Anubis.
In other words, there seems to be every indication that Herods came from the Esau and Lotan line, the line that came to rule the world as Babylon the Great, Mother of dogs. And it was right for God to allow the dogs to rule over men, for the peoples insisted on maligning God's good Name. They set up gods for themselves that had no breath, no mouths to speak, and the rulers were given over to the voices of demons in their heads, and as such demons came to rule the world, explaining why father killed son, and son killed father, merely for a throne, a fully unrighteous act of the Cain-extreme.
Apollo at Arados was traced to Rhodes, and as such he can indeed become the root of the Herods. How much more sinful than Cain was Herod, who had many infants murdered, and parents gone mad because of it, just to save his throne some 20 or 30 years later? Can we imagine a more-demonic creature than Herod the Great Dog? "Fox" is far too kind a term to describe the Herods, and so what is wrong with "our" historians that they would call Herod, "the Great," with a capital 'G' even? What sorts of demons have befallen the historians that they wouldn't instead have called Herod a beast donning a human head?
Sitlers, aside from their trefoil in Traby colors, use the same lion, in the same colors, as the peacock-using Peters, the latter known already to be a Herod branch. Peters use "major" in the motto, linking to Majors/Magors (= Arpad Magyars) that trace to Arados/Arpad. At this time, it needs to be said that the English-alternative Peter Coat (Devon again, Apollo-of-Lithuania suspect) uses scallops in the colors of the same of the Arms of A Coruna. The Arms also uses a skull-and-bones symbol in the color of the Kilpatrick saltire while both Kilpatrick Coats use symbols in the colors of the Coruna scallops. The idea here is that the Spanish Herods got some Antipater blood to the A-Coruna theater.
Were not the Orrs (torteaux) just traced to the Doris/Orris Herods that had been linked to the "Jewish" Pollock Coat? Orrs were not only first found in Renfrewshire, but they use "Bonis" and "bona" motto terms, perhaps code for the A-Coruna skull-and-bones cult. The Orr-crest CORNucopia may then be code for Coruna elements.
We saw earlier that the Herods of the torteaux symbol were linked to torteaux-using Ince/Ines, and that Innes' were or Moray elements...that I trace back to the Piast > Mieszko line. In fact, I traced the Moray star from Bezprym (Mieszko's son) to the French Bez surname. It's now time to investigate Herod links to the Spanish Beaz/Pelaiz surname, therefore, which surname I had linked to "Piast," and to "Paisley" in Renfrew. I was confident of the trace to both because the Beaz/Pelaiz Coat uses half the Pollock (of Renfrew / Paisley) saltire, but as we can now add, Pollocks link exactly to Herod elements of Tortona.
Look at how close Asturias is to A Coruna; both locations use gold on blue. On Asturia's eastern border is Cantabria. Earlier in this update:
Spanish Gills/Gildez' are from SantANDER (north Spain). The Arms of Santander use a chain (as with Navarre), recalling the chains in the Quoid and Quay Coats [with wolves] that were instrumental in linking Solanas to Novara, near Tortona in AlessANDRia. Like the Coldhams and Vilnius, the Arms of Santanders uses waves. Suddenly, we have here another Herod-suspect line. Santander is in Cantabria, and the Arms of Cantabria (more waves) uses what could be construed as a white-on-red roundel (a "plate") which, in colors reversed becomes a torteaux. Anderincidence?It just so happens that A Coruna is traced by others back to mythical Geryon monster, who had a two-headed dog, as well as a related Ladon dragon. Then, beside A Coruna is Ferrol, and the Irish (Leinster) Ferral Coat has a motto translated as, "A rampaging dog." The Ferral Coat is also the Duffy = Morgan lion (i.e. Bute elements, near Renfrew), which is not only in the colors of the Beaz/Pelaiz bend, but the Ferral Crest is a "A greyhound courant, with a collar chained to a regal crown.." More chains.
The Major/Magor Crest is a collared (RED) greyhound too, and as we saw that Spanish MajorDomos were very Herod-suspect, so the bottom half of the Beaz/Pelaiz Coat used checks, half of them black, suggesting links to the black-and-white checks of the Majordomos, first found in chain-using Navarre. REMEMBER TOO, French Majors were linked above to Wrens (i.e. Renfrew elements). THEN, the Arms of Ferrol show blue and white checks, the colors of the French Fer checks. The Fer surname shows Ferraille and Ferrail variations, but also, curiously, a Dufer variation. Duffincidence???
The Fer write-up: "First found in Brittany...The family were well established in the region of Dol..." Yet, the Rennes of Brittany line comes to mind as it linked to Renfrew, for the Veres tell online about a Rainfrou character from whence they supposedly stemmed.
The Ferral write-up: "The Ferral surname comes from the Irish Gaelic name O Fearghail, which means 'man of valor.'" Code for Valerius Gratus? After all, the Gratus line was linked to a greyhound too, that of the French Gros'/Grauts. The Irish Fear/Hare Coat, like one Kilpatrick Crest, uses a green lizard, a symbol also of the Herod-clinched Sullivans. The suspicion is that the Ferral surname and Ferrol location was that of Pharisees and/or the son of Herod, Pheroras (Pher-ORAS?), all linked to the Ferrari > Fergus line.
We begin to see a dog story developing here, and so let me remind that I trace the greyhound to the one-eyed mythical Graeae Gorgons of the Cyrene (of Libya) theater, co-founded by Apollo: "Apollo saw [Cyrene] wrestling with a lion. He immediately fell in love with her and called his friend Cheiron the centaur to ask about her." Both Cyrene and Cheiron, and also the black mythical bird of Apollo, called Coronis, smack of "Coruna." And "Geryon" smacks of "Gorgon" and of the Graeae.
http://www.beautiful-mermaid-art.com/nymphs-in-mythology-4.htmlAt the Coronis page above, you can see that she was raped by a Butes character. Then, as Ferrals must link solidly to Duffys and Morgans, and while there was an Irish Fie/Duff surname that linked to Fay-Morgan elements on Bute, we find an "Esperance" motto -- smacking of the Hesperides from which Geryon came -- in the Irish Fey/Vahey Coat. We realize right away what's going on here: the Spanish Iberians to the Irish Heberites, not Israelites, but pseudo-Israelite Esa-ites.
In this Geddes-surname page, all that's said under the Gordon heading is: "('...there is no mention of any family rift, particularly that between Helen Duff and Gordon Duff, nor of the term "Braco".') Septs: many, including Geddes and Duff." That is, Duffs arose from Gordon Duff, and Duffs were therefore a sept of Gordons. I didn't know this when tracing Gordons to Vilnius earlier in the update, which now clinches the Geddes trace to Gedi-named Lithuanians.
However, we saw above that Duffs may have risen from the Dufer variation of Fers, and Italian Ferraris show Deferrari and Defferrar variations. Moreover, Fergus' not only use the Ferrari lion, but a red lion as well, the color of the Duff lion. REMEMBER, Duffs were linked to Yonges at the root of the birth of Pontius Pilate, both clans being traced to Jupiter and Juno. The idea now surfacing is the Geddes may have had a role in Pilate's birth, which tends to pre-suppose that pseudo-Israeli Irish Heberites were involved, especially if they can be linked to Caledonian Picts. Weren't both Geddes and CALDwells traced to Lithuania?
There is tracing, in the Geddes article, of Geddes elements, including the Ged(e) surname, to Fife and Angus (i.e. the home of Duffs). NOW, RECALL the trace of Lithuania's duke, ButiGEIDUS, to Bute, and we can suddenly trace Duffs to Lithuania as well. The article claims that septs of the Scott surname include: Geddes, Laidlaw, Langlands, and Napier.
I had traced Scotts to Poland years ago, and one reason is their being first found in Roxburghshire, where Maxwells were first found. (Pollocks are a Maxwell sept). The other reason was their having cartwheels (assumed to be from Piast the Wheelwright) on a Coat like that of Sellicks (HEREfordshire), whom I traced to "Silesia." Later, I found the Wheelwright Coat with the same cartwheels (Coulters use them too).
It's astonishing how things work out at times. Looking at the pierced Sellick stars just now, it felt important to find the other Coat seen in this morning's discussion that used pierced stars. By the time of having that thought, I had also wondered whether Sellicks linked to "Salome." Scrolling back to find the Coat with pierced stars, they were not only gold like the Sellick stars, but on the Salome Coat (no exclamation marks there because you had already figured it out).
!!! (delayed reaction). Salomes are in Wheelwright, Sellick, and Scott colors. The Scottish Scotts look like Talbots to me, and you'll see why else Scotts link to Sellicks by viewing both Talbot Coats.
The Geddes page (punctuation poor) also reveals another Geddes Coat: "Geddes and Geddies A stag's head [Magyar symbol] Motto: Veritas vincit (cf 121.5) Geddes and Geddies On a mural coronet a bundle of seven arrows banded. " SEVEN ARROWS??? The symbol of the seven Magyar tribes that made up Hungarians. Bank on it. It tends to reveal that Geddes were from the Getae Thracians who lived beside or even amongst the Arpii / Carpii / Carpae.
The Geddes motto: "Capte majore." Just a good reason to link the Geddes to Herod lines, but didn't Herods already trace by another method to proto-Hungarians? The Majors/Magors (their anchor traces to Vilnius) use the Rose and Yonge roses (I include Youngs because they too used a greyhound), and we now read that Geddes were a sept of Roses of the Ross-shire / Moray area:
Geddes Sept of clans: .Rose (Moray/Nairn area), .to Scott 15th century (Peebles/Selkirk area); .Gordon (Banff/Gordon area) Rose (Pronounced Ross.)...This recalls (last update in October) the French-Rose link to Oriels/Orells, meaning that Roses now appear linked to the Doris/Orris line that was linked above to "Jewish" Pollocks as well as Oriels/Orells. French Roses not only use the Yonge roses, but a blue crescent at the top of their chevron that appears below the French-Major chevron (the chevron that was traced to the Wren chevron). French Roses were first found in Limousin, and Rennes le Chateau is in the region of Limoux. I had traced Spanish Majordomos to Rennes-le-Chateau lightly but sensibly.
There are two Viennes in France that could apply to Herods, one on the Rhone = Rhodanus river, and the other on the Vienne river. It has taken me this long to get to the Vienne article, and, I kid you not, all of the above was written before getting here. As soon as the Vienne page started to load, there in the Arms of Vienne was a white-on-red wave like the wave of the Jewish Pollock Coat!!! REMARKABLE. Surely, Doris, the wife of Herod, had descendants in Vienne.
It just so happens that Vienne is in the Poitiers prefecture, and Poitiers was named by Pictones. The Arms of Poitiers is a red lion, symbol also in the Picton/Pichtone Crest. A red lion is also the Duff Coat, and I trace Duffs to the Picts that gave birth to Pontius Pilate. We now have cause to suspect that Herod blood was in Vienne because Pilate blood was there. Moreover, I would trace Pictones to the Pyxites river, near/in ancient Trabzon, explaining why Traby-related Yonges are also tracing to Pilate's birth. Poitiers was once, Lemonum, suggesting a trace to Lemnos' metal makers.
English Lemons/Leemons (dolphins!) were first found in Essex, where English Yonges were first found!! There are also Spanish Lemons/Limons, some of them in Catalonia. Latter Lemons/Limons use the colors of the Herods/Hurls, not forgetting that the Scandinavian Heruli were the roots of Samogitians, and that the Samson cult was traced to Hephaestus' Kabeiri on Lemnos. Lemans are said to be from "Liefman," and it true, they are suspect as Laevi somehow. That is, Laevi then trace to Lemnos, and besides, I expect the Israeli priesthood where the birth of Pilate took place. I traced Pharisees to Fergus/Ferris'' (Galloway, where Galli-Kabeiri are expected), who not only use the Ferrari lion, but a red-on-white lion, the colors of the Poitiers lion. Fergus' are traced possibly to "Fergustus Pictus who went to Rome in 721 AD."
LOOK at the Picton/Pichtone lion, gold lion on an black-and-ermine Shield, very much like the John Yonge Coat and Trevor/Trefor Coat. What are the chances of the Yonge, Duff and Pict-suspect symbols all occurring where one Herod was exiled? Why are the Trevors first found in HEREfordshire?
Hmm, Pikes/Pickons, encoded in the Geddes' pikes, and therefore link-able to SamoGITia and Gediminids, use TREFoils on their English (Devon) side, and gold, pierced stars on their Scottish side, recalling the gold, pierced Sellick and Salome stars. IN FACT, not only were Sellicks first found in HEREfordshire, as with Trevors/TREFors, but the Salome stars are on a red bend while the Sellick stars are on a red saltire!!! Excellent new keys here, thank you heraldry.
It suggests strongly that the Salome-related Herods were linked to Gediminids and/or Samogitians, but then also to Seleucids (if correct to trace Sellicks/Selliocks to Sulcis, off the coast from the Salyes). At this point, I took a look at the Selke surname (greyhound in Crest), as it came to mind upon writing "Sulcis"; the Selkis/Silks were first found in DERBYshire, which for me suggests that Sellicks (of the Scott surname, remember, direct root of the Geddes) were indeed of the Trabzon > Traby fold.
The Vienne/Vyen surname looks like the Ferte eagle in colors reversed, jibing with the wyvern in the Trevor Crest, and with the Ferrari metal makers. The Viennes/Vyens were first found in Burgundy (where the Pilate surname was first found), and uses a "tout" motto term now viewed (by me) primarily as an Oliphant-bloodline code. Time after time after time, it always comes back to Esau-ites, now re-inforcing the theory that Herods were not only Edomites, but Esau-ites in particular as they had merged with Lotan-ites.
Oliphants use "Tout pour voir, and then the Voir surname (Mackie / Mackesy lions) is also "Voyer," not a far cry from "Vyen." Voirs are the ones from Gripel, now suspect as a Herod-Agrippa location. We read: "Agrippa's son Agrippa II was appointed King and ruler of the northern parts of his father's kingdom. He was the last of the Herodians, and with his death in 92 the dynasty was extinct." On the father, whose wife was another Cypros:
Agrippa I also known as Herod Agrippa or simply Herod (10 BCE - 44 CE), King of the Jews, was the grandson of Herod the Great...His original name was Marcus Julius Agrippa, so named in honour of Roman statesman Marcus Vipsanius Agrippa, and he is the king named Herod in the Acts of the Apostles,By what coincidence do we read this in the Voir-Crest description: "St. Mark's lion, supporting a silver book inscribed with the words "PAX TIBI, MARCE EVANGELISTA." I don't think it's coincidental at all, but I do not think that it was ever in honor of any Christian Mark. It can be deemed the lion Agrippa I.
As the idea is a "Voyer" link to "Vyen," a "Boyen" term was entered to see whether it could link to Viennes. In fact, the Vienne motto uses "bien vienne tout." It's interesting that the German Bien surname was first found in Silesia, and the Bien Coat uses hearts, and the Bruce-Crest lion design, now supposed to be a variant of the Levi lion. Then, "Boyen" brings up the Irish Brian Coat with an arm and sword in Crest, a symbol also of the German Biens. (Bryces, already traced to Lithuania, use the Brian lion design). It just so happens that, like Voirs/Voyers, the other Irish Coat uses Mackie / Mackesy lions, and besides it's known that Bains are a Mackay sept.
It's as if, all along the course of history, Esau-ites maintained their relationship with the Hyksos house that named Moses, the house of Khyan that I say became the Chaine/Chenay/Chesne surname...with Masci wing fashioned as an arm, holding a sword. It's the same sword design as the Excalibur mentioned way above. The Chaines led, it can be presumed, to chain-using Quoids and Quays (= Mackays) that were linked to the Navarre chain symbol, which chain symbol we saw again in this update while investigating proposed Herods of Spain.
Understand all the implications here, Khyan Hyksos that were dread enemies of Moses, merged with Herods, dread enemies of Jesus, and evolving into the Arthurian metal-making cult (from Halybes, Khaldi, Galli Kabeiri, Trabzon) in Devon, and later linking to Redones-rooted Merovingians, foundation of Rosicrucians, and to Seleucid-rooted Mieszko Poles, foundation of the Freemasons.
I had traced the Hyksos house of proto-Masseys to Mus in Lake Van, and from there to the Heneti>Veneti of Vannes in Brittany, where I found a Levigne/Levine branch of Mackays. That suggests Herod blood in both Brittany capitals, Rennes and Vannes. The point is, Mus in Lake Van was home to the Biani founders of Lake Van, whom I have traced to the Vains and Bains septs of Mackays, but we now find the Biens of Vienne elements too, apparently linked to Oliphant-related Voirs of Brittany's Gripel location. You get it.
BIG BIG THANKS to an email from GD (opened only last night), who prompted me to check out some Celtic gods in search of Crom, as per the "Crom aboo" motto of the Desmonds/Geralds (of MUSkerry). Here's the page she shared; it led immediately to the Toutates, human-sacrifice cult. I kicked myself for forgetting all about them while on the "tout" motto terms recently. This find was made even more interesting because GD's topic had been the thistle symbol, used by Thistles/Thissels...whom I had linked to Tuttels/Toothills (entering "Toothill" brings up another Mackie / Mackesy lion).
It blew my mind because "Teutates was one of three Celtic gods mentioned by the Roman poet Lucan in the 1st century AD, the other two being Esus ('lord') and Taranis..." As "tout" has become a symbol of Oliphant-branch Esau-ites, by what cosmic coincidence were Teutates mentioned alongside Esus???
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ToutatisHere's part of the Esus page, linking to a Trevor-like peoples:
...The two statues on which [Esus'] name appears are the Pillar of the Boatmen from among the Parisii and a pillar from Trier among the Treveri. In both of these, Esus is portrayed cutting branches from trees with his axe. Esus is accompanied, on different panels of the Pillar of the Boatmen, by Tarvos Trigaranus (the 'bull with three cranes'), Jupiter, Vulcan, and other gods.AMAZING what comes next:
More serious was the revolt that began with Civilis' Batavian insurrection during the Year of the Four Emperors. In 70, the Treveri under Julius Classicus and Julius TUTOR [caps mine] and the Lingones under Julius Sabinus joined the Batavian rebellion and declared Sabinus as Caesar.In the Trevor write-up, the surname is traced to TUDOR Trevor. But that's not all. "Titelberg (Luxembourgish: Tetelbierg) is the site of a large Celtic settlement or oppidum in the extreme south west of Luxembourg. In the 1st century BC, this thriving community was probably the capital of the Treveri people." Weren't we expecting Treveri to be linked to a Tuttel-like entity?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TitelbergTitelberg evoked the Title surname (also "Tatler"), first found in Haddington (as with Keiths/Keaths), and said to be descended from Seatons.
Wikipedia suggests that "Treveri" was thought to mean Tre-Veri, so to speak, or three-something. I don't agree that the Treveri were named after anything but Trabzon elements, but, yes, there could have been a change in meaning to three-something that then gave birth to Var, Vire, and other such terms suggested by Wikipedia. I'm not sure if I agree as per those particular t terms stemming from "Treveri," but I'll throw in "Voir/Voyer," seeing that Voirs linked to Esau-ites of the "tout" term type.
The Treveri lived in Triers, on the Moselle river, where also the Bar-le-Duc peoples lived. When going to fetch the Bar-le-Duc page for you, to shown how close the Treveri (see map) were to it, I wondered whether the Bar-le-Duc fish were pike. So, "pike" was googled...to find that they were named after an Esus-like term:
Esox is a genus of freshwater fish, the only living genus in the family Esocidae...The type species is E. lucius, the northern pike. The species of this genus are known as pike and pickerel, and in heraldry they are usually called lucy.
See the Leuci peoples smack next to the Treveri! How could that be coincidental??? Therefore, as Treveri were Esus worshipers, they must have named the esox = pikes. It suddenly traces the Geddes clan to Esus too, and many other elements can now be traced to Esus and Teutates, including the Var-like Bars themselves.
See the Arms of Troyes, same type, same color bend as per the Toothill Coat with Mackie/MacKEY lion. BUT NOW, the Arms of Trier show a key.
We saw a key in the mouth of an ostrich in the Crest of the Lithuania-related Propers/Robins. Another Robin surname show thistles. We definitely have a pattern that cannot be refuted. It should be repeated here, especially if the Bar fish are pike, that Bars were Estes, themselves suspect as Astikas, the latter known partners with Trabys. That does indeed trace Trabys to Treveri. The further trace to Troy does not obliterate a Traby trace to ostrich eggs of Crete, for Trojans are known to have originated in Crete's Curetes.
Estes (now smacking of "Esus") were traced (by me) to Merovingians, and we see all sorts of proto-Merovingian themes in the Treveri article, including the Treveri lordship over Eburones, and alliance with Batavi. One major point is the Esus link to Parisii as well as to Treveri. Merovingians claimed to trace to Trojans, and of course Paris-based Trojans are suspect. Note, not only that the city of Troyes is near Trier (earlier called, Treves and Trevorum), but the similarity between "Troy" and "Treveri." Possibly, "Trabzon" developed into a Trav-like term when arriving to the proto-Latin region of Lydia, and finally into "Troy."
As Tuttels/Toothills are suspect as a major porphyry line, what about the fact that pikes are called "lucy"? The purple-lion Lacys could apply. English Lacys/Lasseys (purple "fret-knot" in Crest) use plates, but then one early variation mentioned is "Lascey." If that was L'Ascey, we may possibly have a Lacy connection to "Esox." Hmm, Tuttels were first found in esox-like Essex.
The Lucy/Luce/Lucey Coat even shows lucy/pike fish. The Lucy write-up: "Luce in Orne in the bailiwick of le Passeis, near Domfront, Normandy." DOMfront? ORne?
By what coincidence is it that the Orne surname (in Lucy white-on-red) is also Athorn, while Thistles had been linked to Thornes...I believe that was in the Thorton / Horton link to Tortona? See the purple lion (symbol of Irish Lacys) in the Thornton Crest, and its "tuta" motto term!
I would suggest a French-Thorton/Drennan link to the Salome Coat. And then, three hearts (Herod-suspect symbol) in the Scottish Thornton Coat, all on a white-on-red fesse, the colors of the Doris/Orris bend (and of the Lucy fish and Orne/Athorn herons). The suspicion here is that "Orne" and "Thorn(ton)" are of torteaux-using Orrs and Orrels.
One of my next topics was going to be as per Tim's email on Laus Deo, a motto used by Arbuthnotts. I was going to ask by what coincidence the Coat uses stars in the colors of the American flag? Tim's email was very recent, yesterday, I think, and so he was sending the Laus-Deo note in, I expect, as per this paragraph in the last update:
It just so happens that "Laux" smacks of "Laus" that I trace to Lusatians (bull symbol there too)...As I was telling GD, who is a Douglas seeking Douglas roots, the "Laus Deo" written at the Washington Monument was traced in the last update to the "Laus Deo" motto phrase of the Manders, and the Douglas salaMANDER could apply, especially as my first-ever trace of the white-on-blue Americans stars was to the Douglas stars...That must be why Tim asked me to look at the Arbuthnott stars. As I happen to be on the Lucy and Lacy surnames at this time, might they not connect to the Laus Deo term, and Laux/Lux surname? It just so happens that the Treveri (also "Trebari") territory reached into Luxembourg. AND, we have another Mackie / Mackesy lion in the French Laux Coat, and a Shield filled with "hurts".
The write-up of the German Laux/Lux surname traces to "lynx," but I recall that ancients had traced mythical Lynceus to the Leuci peoples, the same above that lived beside Treveri, and who were depicted by lucy fish. From the 3rd update of November, 2000:
The Laux/Lux surname has Luch and Lukart variations, smacking of the Ligurians...I say this because the Lux write-up traces to "lynx," but I don't think that's true except for a trace to mythical LYNCeus, son of Aegyptus, son of BELus....Here's what I wrote in the third update of August:
Lynceus likewise traces to Ligurians, for he was made son of mythical Aphareus (= Avaris elements in Greece), who was brother to Leucippus, and there happened to be a Leuci peoples of Gaul to the immediate north of Lingones/Lugii, the latter apparently from the Lynceus cult (see also sixth update of July). By another myth writer(s), Lynceus was the son of Aegyptus, brother to Danaus. Aphareus and Leucippus......I mention Lynceus because Herodotus quoted Chemmites, saying: "Danaus and Lynceus were Chemmites before they set sail for Greece, and from them Perseus was descended..." I don't think it's a coincidence that the Camber/Comer Coat uses a "Lynceus"-like symbol: A "gold lynx head, pellettee."
It all smacks of Lacydon Ligurians at the mouth of the Rhone moving north into the Rhone to found Leuci. That should be your Laus Deo to the builders of the Washington monument. If the question now, is, how does Washington trace from the Leuci to Polish / Lithuania elements, as per my recent trace of Washingtons to them, we could look to the pike used by Geddes, thus tracing Leuci to Gediminid and Samogitia / Siemowit elements. Think Luzika = Lusatia, for example.
Wikipedia's article on Laus Deo says that the phrase is used by the Arms of Viscount of Arbuthnott. Down the page, see the Arms with two green wyverns beside it, and a blue Indian peacock in Crest. Crichtons use a green dragon, and the Bute lion, and of course "ArBUTHnott" could be of Bute / Bothwell elements. The write-up at houseofnames: "The first bearer of this name on record was Hugh de Aberbothenoth, also known as 'Dominus' and 'Thanus' de Aberbuthenoth, who lived in the time of King William I, the Lion of Scotland (1143-1214)." Hmm, Abernathys (a parrot proper) use the Duff lion, and were first found in Perthshire, as with Duffs.
The Arbuthnott write-up goes on to mention Oliphards: "First found in the county of Kincardineshire, from very ancient times, being from the old barony of Arbuthnot. In 1150, Hugh Arbuthnot obtained the lands from William Olifard in a dispute with then sheriff of Mearns...The Clan was described as the most thriving name in Peterhead..." Peter = Butteri? I traced the Biden/Button Butteri to the Bath/Atha surname, and then with Arbuthnotts, we find an ArBUTTON variation. Plus, "Buth" brings up the Bath/Atha Coat.
That latter part is very good for my trace of Baths/Athas to MacHeths of Moray. The Arbots/ArBAUTs are in the colors of the Heths. THEN, as we assume that the "Ar" in that surname was from "Aber," we can knock it off to check out the Bauts: the Moray stars again! Just think of all the fun you're missing because I get to have this job? The Bauts even use the white-on-blue crescent of the Arbuthnotts. Now we know that the builders of the Washington Monument were Bauts/Baults out of Prussia.
The Baltic sea comes to mind, but then also this: "The colorful history of East Prussia, which was located on the southern shore of the Baltic Sea and was bordered by Poland and Lithuania, provides a glimpse at the oldest origins of the Baut family." From the 2nd update of January of this year, the Bauts/Baults were traced to Vilnius/Lithuania perhaps unawares:
...If not for opening FE's email on the David-like Devaud surname [pelican-on-nest], I might not have realized that "Sapieha" [where Astikas > Radziwills were concentrated in Poland] and "Sapaudia/Sabaudia" [the latter was Savoy] were variations of the "David" clan that I traced to the Sava>Sion entity. I figured that the Welsh David clan had to trace to that entity because both the David and SAVIDge Coats use black-on-white lions. I figured that Daves and Saves were related....I wasn't going to mention the theory that the David motto, "Pax et copia," was code for Faucigny (I had trace "Fac et" to Fawcetts) until I found a "Pax in bello" motto of the German Baud[/Baut] surname. I searched the latter only as per the SaBAUDia" variation of "Sapaudia"...The Bauds use black-on-white lions, the Savidge- and David-lion colors.
French Bauds use "Bode" and "Baux," generally smack of Bute and the Bottens location in Vaud [Switerland, near Morges location that was linked to Fay-Morgan on Bute]. Entering "Bottens" brings up six black-on-white roundels, smacking of the six black-on-white lions used by Savages.
You can take that or leave it, the Baut/Bault link to Savoy, that is, and all the rest, for what it might be worth. By now, the "Pax" motto term of the Bauts/Baults has been traced to Packs of Poland, suspect as the Pikes too, not forgetting that Pikes use Traby-suspect trefoils.
It just so happens that, like the Arbuthnotts, the heart-using Thor(n)tons, were first found in Mearns/Kincardine. There was absolutely no intended connection between the Arbuthnott topic and my discussion that led to Thorntons. In the Thornton write-up: "...Laurence de Thorneton in C. 1204-11, when he was a witness to a deed by Henry, abbot of Arbroath." It suggests that Arbroaths were Arbuthnotts, and it's suspected that they were Herods to some degree, especially of the Salome kind. Remember, English Thorntons use "tuta."
The reason that I introduced the Arbuthnott topic at the Thorton topic had also to do with the blue-on-white crescent of the Arbuthnotts. It's the symbol of Tuttles/Toothills. As we can be very sure that the latter were Oliphards, it explains the Arbuthnott link to Olifards.
German Laux'/Lux' use a black bull on gold, which is not only the symbol of the Mieske surname, but of the Polish Arms called, "Pomian. Reading, it turns out that the black bull is a buffalo, though the Mieske description calls it a bull. In the list of families using the Pomian bull, Czynski and Kosinski are included. The bull, remember, is a symbol of Lusatia. Pohls/Pohlands, first found in Silesia, use the Pomian-colored bull, though the description calls it a buffalo.
The Pommer/Pomeroy Coat uses the same Shield as the Scotts and Sellicks that have already been traced to Poles. I did trace "Sellick" to "Silesia" on the hunch.
The Pommer/Pomeroy lion is used by Thorns, and then the Salome-suspect Thortons use the motto, "Nec opPRIMEre nec opPRIMi." The suspicion there is that Pommers became Primes/Prymes (or vice-versa), for the Prime Coat uses Pommer colors. The only Prime/Pryme symbol is a leg, not quite like the Prophet/ProFETT leg that was traced to Propers/Robins in the last update, but close enough to indicate Foetes-branch Ligurians in Poland. As Foetes elements had traced solidly to Cheshire, note that one Thornton surname, the one with "tuta" motto term and purple lion, was first found in Cheshire. I would guess that the "merces" motto term of the same Thorntons traces to the founders of Marseille, at Lacydon.
It's time to do up the laces on our runners and to start running this message around: that Edomites are about to swallow the world like drunken gluttons, and, like the stupids that they are for carrying the anti-Christ agenda forward to the very last Day, to help desolate Israel. Note how slippery was George "Bush" in neatly appearing pro-Israel and yet pushing the Palestinian state. Note how the same stupids got Russia, a super-power with pro-Arab track record, involved in the "Quartet." Yes, America needs Israel for a foothold in their Middle-East interests, but the new Americans of the last days will love Esau much more than Jacob: that's the prediction. We await the ultimate Edomite on the American throne. I no longer think it's Obama.
The Thorns that use the Pommel/Pomeroy lion were first found in Somerset while the latter clan was first found in neighboring Devon. The "Ex" motto term of the Thorns must therefore be code for Exeter. Did we just see these clans tracing to Samogitians, which were linked earlier to Sempers/Sampers? The Arms of Exeter (another red lion in crest) uses, "Semper Fidelis." Didn't we trace Lithuanians to the Cornwall peninsula?
ZIKERS:
The Latin name for Exeter, Isca Dumnoniorum ("Isca of the Dumnones or Devonians"), suggests that the city was of Celtic origin. This oppidum, (a Latin term meaning an important town), on the banks of the River Exe certainly existed prior to the foundation of the Roman city in about AD 50...What was the name of that pike? Esox. Can we now trace the esox fish to Isca and Exe(ter) in order to explain why Geddes and other Lithuanians were in the Devon theater? Does this trace the wicked Esus and Oliphant-related Teutates to Devon? Even the Manders, with Laus Deo" motto, were first found in Devon.
The Prime Crest is an owl, and the motto includes "minerva," the owl goddess. Could we suppose that the first Lithuanian king, MINdougas, was a Minerva-honoring entity linked with the Pomian families? It wasn't Mindougas, but a ruler of Lithuania about two generations later, DauMANTOS, that was traced to the Dumnonii on a suggestive basis only. Now it's panning out still better. The "comes" motto term of Pommers must be for the Comes/Combs, first found in Devon, as with Pommers.
The last time that I was on the Prime Coat, it was traced somehow to Sweitoslawa, daughter of Mieszko; it supports the Prime-Pommer link suggested above. There was a son of Mieszko, BezPRYM, and then there were the PRYMYslid Bohemians / Moravians that he was likely named after...the same that I think led to the Moray / Arbuthnott / Douglas / American stars. Bezprym's brother, Boleslaw, was married to Bohemians that were from Great Moravia blood, and Great Moravia was ruled by SvatoPLUK, perhaps the underpinnings of the Pluck/Plock surname, and the Plock location in Masovia. Compare SWEITOslawa with SVATOpluk.
Interestingly, and perhaps not surprising, the Mindy Coat (come up as "Mound" too) uses black-on-white lions (Pryme colors), same as Pommers/Pomeroys and Exeter-related Thorns. We could expect Mindaugas elements to use such a surname, which is also "Munde." The bee design of Mindys/Mundys are that of the Leifs/Leafs/Leves, and then "Jewish" Levis use black-on-white lions too. Hmmm.
Actually, Mindys/Mundys use lion heads. The last time we encountered black-on-white lion heads was in the Baud/Bault Coat, the surname that had linked to the Arbuthnotts, the Laus-Deo bloodline. Bauds/Baults, remember, were first found in Prussia (beside Lithuania), where the Mieskes were first found.
Can you imagine how many drastically-important points I miss because, unlike you, I haven't as much time to contemplate what I'm writing? If one were to go over any section of these recent updates with a comb, another world of discovery could be added to this story. I'm too busy writing, emailing, and fending for my own life even to re-read and fine-tune updates, let alone go over all the important finds.
Thus far, no special links of Pommes and Pomians to Pomerania have come up. Just to let you know the possibility there. Pomerania has many dragon designs. Why? Where did they come from? The Varni of Pomerania / Polabia are suspect. Recall the possibility of the Treveri breaking up into Var-like terms, and then let's throw in the Vere trace to Brittany, where the Tout-related Voirs were first found. The Treveri even predate the mention (1st century) of Tacitus of the Varni. There is a Varn/Warnock Coat that looks related to the Gripps, and we can assume that Gripps were of Agrippa elements dating roughly to the first century.
It took me too many seconds to realize that the Gripps are in fact related to Varni. Gripps were traced to Gripel (Brittany), where the tout-related Voir clan lived, and that supports what was only a theory above, that the Treveri put forth the Voir surname of Vere-Brittany elements. It of course begs the question of whether Varni were a Treveri branch, which, if true (i sure think it is), traces Veres, as expected, to human-sacrifice cults. Remember, the Treveri were the lovers of Esus, and the Voir clan is encoded in the "voir" motto of the "tout"-using Oliphant surname that was, surely, a lover of the Esau-ites. The bull-using Arms of Oxford, assumed to be a Vere-honoring Arms, uses an elephant too.
We get it: certain dragon-loving Veres are slimes covering up their human-sacrifice past. How many children go missing today to feed the devil in the name of world power and worldly wealth?
I realize that the Gripp term brings up surnames of the Grab/Greb/Grub kind, but the above works so well that I insist on a trace to Gripps and Gripel. There is a Grab/Crabb/Krabb surname first found in Hamburg, near the Varni (In Polabia). German Drummonds were first found in Hamburg, and as they use white-on-blue horizontal bars, see the horizontal bars in colors reversed in the Gribble/GrimBALD/GrimBAUD Coat. If that's not convincing enough evidence of a Gripp link to the Polabia theater, the Gripp/Grabel surname in question was traced earlier to the Grave surname because the write-up traces to "a digger of graves." The Grave/Greves Coat uses wider blue and white horizontal bars, more-still like the Drummond bars. We can only wonder what sort of illegal activity went in the grave-digging business owned by human-sacrifice families.
Remember, I trace Drummonds to Thermodon = Trabzon, and Trips/Treffs were also first found in Hamburg. As these were Trabys, so the English Graves were first found in DERBYshire. And Irish Darbys were also Drummond-like DERMotts. English Graves/Greeves use "Spes," making them suspect as Vilnius elements, as expected of their Traby nature. Now is the right time to show the Swiss Gribble/Grabil Coat (Ferrari lions?), with three ostrich feathers in Crest.
There are two blue ostrich feathers with a white one in the middle, just like the three ostrich feathers in this Arms of Rothschild. Isn't expected that Rothschilds own many Swiss banks where illegal funds are kept safe even from the world police? As the "Grip fast" motto of the Leslies was said to have been in honor of Drummonds, by what other coincidence can it be that the Leslie Coat is a white bend between two blue parts of a Shield, thus reflecting the Gribble feathers?
The Gribble/Grabil write-up:
The Gribble name was taken as a surname from a place name derived from the German word "Kraehen," meaning "crow" and "buehl" meaning "hill." There were probably several place names based on these words, including Krayenbuhl in the parish of Groshochstetten, Canton of Bern, Switzerland.Spelling variations of this family name include: Krahenbuhl...Krayenbuhl...Creyenbuhl...Kraibil...Crabil...Grabble...and many more.
First found in the Lucerne region of Switzerland where records show the Kreyenbuhl, Kraehenbuehl families since the 14th century.
The trace to crow seems reasonable as per the crow/raven in the German Rothes Coat. The Greek for "crow," corvos, easily modifies to "Crab/Grab," but this suggests that the raven-depicted vikings in Rothesay = Bute were the root of the Swiss Krahenbuhls/Gribbes. It could also be said that the surname does not at all trace to "crow," but that the idea was presented in a fine-sounding way to act as code for the Rothes. The "Kraehen" term said to mean "crow" also smacks of the Cranes, and then Esus was a god of some crane entity. The KraehenBUHL variation then looks like the bull and crane combo of the Esus cult, called the, Tarvos Trigaranus (it's not necessarily true that this phrase meant anything to do with cranes and bulls, and these symbols may have been applied as typical double-meaning code to cover up the true meaning).
The Kraehenbuhl/Gribble Coat uses a "column," and then the Arms of Gediminids use columns in particular. Perhaps the two Masonic pillars are symbols of the Gediminids too. We saw that the Geddes' pikes=esox linked to Treveri, and to the Esus god, didn't we? When the cults insist that they were from sons of Jesus, perhaps they are in reality referring to Esus, also called, Hesus. His symbol is suspect as the tree stump, and of course the axe. Consider the tree stump of Rod(h)ams that traced to Radziwills. Shouldn't Rothes, who may have predated Rothschilds proper, trace to Radziwills too?
The Gribble Coat happens to show a white column on blue...which column could be code for the blue-on-white MalCOLM/MalCALAMS, themselves using the reverse of the white-on-blue Andrew's saltire. I say this because Gribbles have already been revealed as Drummond and Leslies, and it's known that Drummonds were birthed by king Andrew...and Leslies may have been likewise.
As Veres are so extensive in heraldry, and in royal and noble lines of Europe, we are forcefully led to perceive Masonry as largely a Treveri and Esus one. It explains the "coincidences" recently of virtually every trace leading to Esau-ites and Herod-related kin. The nature of the dragon cult is rising from the grave into full illumination now. We are becoming the illuminated, unfortunately. Who really wants to see this ugly beast? The world has yet to learn how great life can be without this beast calling the shots on the way we are forced to live, on the spiritual pollution that we are forced to breathe with our spirits.
Back now to the Brians that came up while investigating possible Voir-of-Gripel links. I had written: "Then, 'Boyen' brings up the Irish Brian Coat with an arm and sword in Crest, a symbol also of the German Biens." In my opinion now, Biens link to the Herods of Vienne, as per the "bien vienne" motto phrase of the Vienne surname. WELL WELL, just look below at what we discover as per yet another email of GD. But first, let me say a few things on Brians.
Brians trace without doubt, along with black-boar Sullivans, to the Durance river on which Salyes lived. At this point, the Dorris/Orris surname is suspect behind "Durance." Now that Salyes have been discovered as kin to the Salomes, we can ask why Brians should have lived in Salyes districts. Why does the Boyen term bring up the Brians? Who were the Brians. We can be sure that their Briancon location (on the Durance) traces to the English and Scottish Durants; the black bugle (shared by Brians) is the key, but also their station at Salop. Italian Durants use a sun, a symbol that I think belongs to the Salyes, though used by king Herod too.
It occurred that Brians may have been named by a Bra location in Piedmont, and then entering "Brae" got the Brays (in Flag/Flack colors) using a "flax breaker" in Crest. Entering "Brake" got bugles again, and a clan first found in Salop, where Meschins were first found who use the same-colored scallops as Flags/Flacks. Dutch Flacks use the Masci wing, and, again, Salyes evolved into the Sales-of-Masci. But it doesn't answer why "Boyen" brings up the Brians. We already know that the black bugle is a Traby symbol... of a clan tracing, says me, to the Cretan > Trojan line.
Entering "Boin" gets the bull of the Bove/Bue/Buo/Bui/Boi/Boy/Bo/Boelli/Boetti//Bovin/Boin/Bovari Coat. They were first found in Reggio-Emilia, near Bologna that was once ruled by the Boii. It's possible that these were the Baiocasses founders of the Bessin, where Meschins ruled. Entering "Bayen" gets the Bains/Vains = Mackay sept. GD's email below will lead to Cretan elements of the Rhea / Craig kind, and so note REGGIO-Emilia, for I trace "Rhea" -- a bull cult -- to Rhag-like terms. It's known that Rhea's Curete cult brought the infant Zeus up alongside a honey cult, AMALthea (suspect as Amalekites), and "melia" means "honey. There was a Melia goddess in Boiotia (Boii-suspect) who married Inachus (proto-Ince's?), founder of Argos, and then the goddess of Argos was, like Zeus on Crete, a white cow.
By now you may have gleaned that the Treveri (suspect from Trojans) were linked to the Aedui of Autun, which I trace back to mythical Aedon of Boiotia. Aedon was a granddaughter of Merops, a bee term to ancient Greeks. It was Rhea's Curete bull cult that founded the Trojans, but keep in mind that the Rhea Great Mother developed into the Galli priesthood of the Cybele Great Mother, for Reggio-Emilia and Bologna are the Ferrari theater, the clan to which I trace (until proven wrong) the Pharisee line. I think that GD's email will touch upon the Pharisee line as it linked back to Cretans, you see.
As we are round-about tracing this discussion to Voir in Gripel, it could be repeated (because the Voir Crest uses a lion called, "Mark") the Mark surname had been linked to the Marici founders of Pavia, near Tortona, allies with the Laevi that are suspect, at least in part, as Pharisee blood. As Herod blood (the Doris/Orris. / Orrs / Oriels / Inces) was traced to Tortona, couldn't the Herod mentioned above, Marcus Agrippa, have been named in honor of the Marici? Marcus Agrippa did spend time in Italy, and Israel was crawling with Romans, anyway.
I'm all in favor (if need be) of admitting error when tracing Marici to the Marsi of Abruzzo, and then to the founding of Marseille by the Marsi, but then it should be noted that the Treveri and the Esus cult were identified with Mars, and that they lived up from the Rhone waterway, the river at which Marseille is located.
As the Bauts/Balts have just been traced to the Voirs of Gripel, the BaltiMORE Orioles came to mind while writing "Oriel" above. Bauts/Balts had been linked fundamentally to the MORay stars of the Arbuthnotts, you see. It was vert recently that the Baltimore surname. The Baltimores/Calverts (in Varn/Warnock and Gripp colors!) were first found in Yorkshire, and as per the Yorkshire clans about to come up below, let me remind that Yorkshire elements trace in large part to Trojan-rooted Parisii, neighbors and kin to the Treveri...that were just traced to the Varny/Warnocks and related Voirs of Gripel.
Check out the blue-on-white stars, colors reversed from the Scottish Weirs/Veres and Morays, in the Varny/Verney Coat! I had failed to check "Varny" when checking above for "Varn."
The Oriole surname shows properly as "Royal/Ryle," and it shows the red and white colors of the Oriels/Orells and Doris/Orris'. English Ryes/Ryse' appear related to Orioles/Royals/Ryles, and their Coat shows like that of Rodhams...whose tree stump is now being traces to Esus. There are two white ostrich feathers in the Rye Crest. Suddenly, the O'Reillys (said to be from "Raghailligh") are link-able to Herods.
By the way, one of Marcus Agrippa's children: "Mariamne, {b.34-?} who married Gaius Julius Archelaus Antiochus Epiphanes [must be the royal Seleucid line that produced king Antichos IV Epiphanes, arch enemy iof Israel]; they had a daughter Berenice (daughter of Mariamne) {b.50 CE} who lived with her mother in Alexandria, Egypt after her parents divorce."
Okay, so the question is: might Herod-Agrippa elements from Alexandria have named Alessandria at Tortona?
Here's part of GD's email:
I dont know that you will ever want or need this info but I came across it today on a 'thistle' search and it ties 14th cent to Silesia...
http://alcippe.livejournal.com/283680.htmlThe family "Kretzschmar," "Kretschmar" or "Kretchmer" originated in Bohemia around 890 A.D...The name came from Mount Kretzschmar in Bohemia at Eger. The family owned this land from time immemorial.
Pause. Eger evokes the Leda egg cult to Lithuania. It was Leda's son Castor especially that I traced to Lada elements of Lithuania, and then the Castor Coat is not only in the colors of the Varns/Warnocks and Gripps, but looks like a branch of Carricks...to whom I will trace the Kretschmers as per their Creek variation. By some "coincidence," the Carrick motto is "Garde bien," the emphasis now on the "bien." The Herods of Vienne are very suspect because GD will show a heart symbol in a Kretschmer Coat.
The Carrick Crest, by the way, is an ostrich (!!!) with "a broken spear in the beak." The German Brocken Coat shows tree stumps, now suspect as an Esus symbol. Irish Brockens/Brogans: lots of trefoils! Didn't we trace the Varns/Warnocks to the trefoil bloodline? In fact, I traced Veres to a witchcraft location in the Brochen (also called, BLOCKsberg) area of Germany, in the Harz (i.e. like "heart") mountains. In fact, that location was also traced to the Varni way back in the 6th update of June, 2009:
One of the rode-ending locations is Wernigerode, smack beside Brocken mountain, and to the immediate south of where the Warnabi [same as Varni] lived. As Veres and Stewarts are known to be related within the dragon/witchcraft cult honored by Nicholas de Vere, I would suggest that Veres and Stewarts trace to Wernigerode...I went on to mention that English Stewarts use the same-colored lion as Brocks/Brokes.
Compare "WERNIGErode" to "Warnock." Plus, both Varns/Warnocks and Carricks were first found in Ayrshire. It just so happens that the Irish Fergus', who use the Ferrari lion, show a "broken lance" in Crest, but if that's not enough of a clue to Carrick relations, here's the write-up: "Fearghus was the name of an early Irish mythological King of Ulster, a valiant warrior said to have been shipwrecked off the coast of Northern Ireland c. AD 320, at the place known as Carrickfergus ("rock of Fergus")." "Rock of Feargus" my big fat stonehenge.
Understand that I had not yet made a hard link between Kretschmers and Carricks when I wrote to GD this morning, though I did suggest links to the Carrick-related Kerricks that I've previously linked to priesthood families, including the Presleys/Priestleys. It was only after suggesting that priesthood link to Kretschmers to her (by the way, where are all the men on the tribwatch team??? Hello out there? Gone fishing or something?), the both Carricks and Fergus' figured into the picture, suggesting Pharisees in particular.
The last we saw of her email, she had traced Kretschmers to an Eger location in Bohemia, and we had, just previous to introducing her email, been on the Boii topic of the Bologna / Ferrara theater. One Eger Coat shows "Man do it" for a motto, smacking of Daumantas, Lithuanian duke, perhaps related to MinDAUGAS, Lithuanian king, and so it should be added that the Eger lion is white, and in the style, of the white Dougal/Dowell lion. How much-more interesting is it that GD herself is an expert (or becoming one) of the Douglas clan, one of her bloodlines?
By what cosmic coincidence is it that German Egers use three blue stars, the colors of the Varny stars??? The clan is said to be from Egerer in Bavaria, but then many historians link the Baia founders of Bavaria to the Boii founders of Bohemia. If ever we wanted to realize the Weir/Vere link to Bavaria, this is at least one major case. Let's continue with the email:
In the latter part of the 14th Century, King Ottockar II of Bohemia built the city of Breslau in Silesia, and sent to govern the city, the nobleman, Hugo PanCRATius [caps mine], the Kretzschmar. He became lord of many feudal states near Breslau and married Joanna von Borskoffen...In 1596, one of the Kretzschmars was a Silesian Knight and Sheriff of Leighnitz, Silesia. This information comes from the Royal Imperial Archives at Vienna, Austria...All Kretzschmars are supposed to be descended from the Bohemian family, above. In 1615, Johann Kretzschmar was Mayor of Breslau...
The Kretchmer Coat of Arms is as follows: "Blue: a gold heart, from which are leaving three gold thistles without leaves." There was no battle cry (motto) associated with the Kretchmer Coat of Arms.
There is a Breslau surname using, once again, black and gold, Varn/Warnock et-al colors. Houseofnames has a Kretschmer Coat, and the surname is said to have been first in Saxony, as with the Breslau surname. So phar, so good.
But what of the Herod-suspect heart growing thistles, this heart being in the colors of the Thistle/Thissel pheons? It suggests a link to the Esau-ite Tuttels/Toothills and therefore a link to the capital city of the Treveri. Perfect, as expected, as per the Varn/Warnock link to the Treveri, lovers of Esus.
If correct to trace Varni to Varangians, then consider that the Treveri, as the earliest proto-Varangians yet, must have been Redones...if I'm correct in tracing Varangians to Redones. I say that "Herod" was from "Rhode / Redone." It just so happens that Egers were first found in Berwickshire, home of Bernicians that I trace to "Varangi." PLUS, the Swiss Gribble/Kraehenbuhl surname, traced above to the crane-and-bull symbol of Esus, was of Berne (Switzerland), which place I routinely trace to Bernicians. Also, the daughter of Marcus Herod Agrippa I:
Berenice, [b.28-after 81 CE] who first married her uncle Herod, king of Chalcis, and afterwards lived with her brother Agrippa [II]...Bernice also had a common-law relationship with the Roman emperor Titus.One can't be more of a harlot than that, and indeed I do identify Titus to one of the seven heads/kings of the Revelation dragon. Agrippa's mother was also Bernice. Here's what comes up as the , in Gripp / Varn/Warnock colors again! It compares with the English Brian/Briene Coat (piles), and it was the Brians that were traced suggestively above to Voirs of Gripel.
At this time we need to bring the Gribble/Kraehenbuhl surname back, for it's Krey and Kray variations smack of the Crae, Cree, and Cray variations of the Craith/Crath/Creight/Reagh/Rae surname...that I trace to Crete. That's why I am tracing the Kretschmers to the same Rhea cult of Crete. Kretschmers use gold on red too, as does the Chief of the Craiths/Craths/etc. Kretschmer variations include: KARTschner, Kartchmann Kartschmer, Karczmar, Karczmarski, Kretschmeyer (Majors/Magors/Meyers?)...and CREEKmore. The latter one suggests for me the Chichtons/Creightons...who use the green Leslie griffin, wherefore let's not forget that Gribbles/Kraehenbuhls traced to the Leslie motto, "Grip fast."
The Crichtons/Creightons use a blue-on-white Bute lion that has been understood as the Cappeo lion of Caiaphas blood. The Pharisees were traced to holy-grail Parisii, and as they were co-founders of Yorkshire with Eburovices/Ebroicum (may have been a branch of Eburones beside the Treveri and Parisii), consider that, not just the Presleys/Priestleys (red Drake wyvern), but the Creeks/Critches were first found in Yorkshire.
Eburovices were founders of Brescia/Brixia (blue-on-white lion), and the Presley/Priestly Coat uses the lions and tower of the Abreu surname, which I trace to Evreux, city of the Eburovices. Again, the Kerrick write-up and motto shows priest clues, and Kerricks use roughly the same symbol as Presleys/Priestleys. In this picture, the leaves of the Craiths/Craths (Ayrshire, as with Carricks) are likely code for Laevi. You can bet your longest tassels and your thistles that Caiaphas was of the Eburovices Hebrews... from Aphrodite, of Cyprus. The wife of Marcus Herod Agrippa was Cypros, and we can be pretty sure that "Marcus" was named after, not only the Ares > Mars line to which Aphrodite was in love, but the Laevi-related Marici, not far from Brescia.
The Yorkshire location is important in this Kretschmer discussion because they use a Coat like the Wheelwrights, first found in Yorkshire. PLUS, the Wheelwright symbol, cartwheels, smacks of the Kart-using variations of the Kretschmers. Suddenly, Kretschmers are tracing to the Piast Wheelwright, mythical father of the Mieszko Poles, and I did link Mieszko fundamentally to Silesia, a home of Kretschmers. That's how important GD's email is now proving to be.
As Kretschmers are linking wildly to Treveri and Esus, who were the root of Oliphant-related Tuttels, Touts, and other such terms, let me repeat that the type of Shield used by Wheelwrights is used also by Tates. Moreover, Tates use ravens, the said symbol of the Esus-suspect Gribbles/Kraehenbuhls.
Remember, Mount Kretzschmar in Bohemia at Eger. Did we just trace Egers, suspect as a branch of Kretschmers, to Berwickshire? That's where the Scottish Tates were first found...who use the Annandale Shield-and-Chief combination. We are again led to the Laevi and Brescia theater, now of the Ananes Gauls, suspect as part of the Caiaphas line. And so I need to take you to this Capys article, where we see mythical Capys (a Trojan to the Greeks) in the line of mythical-Aeneas Trojans at Rome. The father of Capys is shown as Capetus, and his grandfather in turn is a mythical Agrippa!
We can start by asking whether "Aeneas" was code for the Ananes Gauls that I think named Annas, father of Caiaphas. Aeneas (with an 'a') must not only trace to mythical Aeneus (with a 'u'), code for Aenus, a city at the mouth of the Hebros, but to the Heneti to which Aphrodite belonged. After all, Aphrodite was made Aeneas' mother, and moreover the wife of Aeneus was made, Aenette. We can be sure that Aphrodite represented the Heneti because they founded the Veneti, who smack of Venus, the Roman name for Aphrodite.
The point here is that Caiaphas was linked above to Eburovices of Brescia, not far north of the Ananes that are suspect as the Aphrodite line to Aeneas > Capys > Agrippa. Therefore, when we find an Agrippa in Israel, who was in charge of choosing the high priests of Israel, if I'm not mistaken, we suddenly find cause for a Pharisee and/or Sadducee trace to the Ananes / Laevi theater. In fact, Tim emailed recently showing a quote telling that, in the time of emperor Claudius, the Herods did choose the high priests, and it might have been the same in earlier times, the time of Annas and Caiaphas. In the Agrippa article:
Josephus informs us that, after the murder of his father, young Agrippa [the Marcus one under discussion] was sent by Herod the Great to the imperial court in Rome. There, Tiberius conceived a great affection for him, and had him educated alongside his son Drusus, who also befriended him, and future emperor Claudius.<Hmm, as per Capetus, father of Capys, the Geddes motto: "Capte majore."
We may wonder whether the Pharisee line led to the French Capetian dynasty, but then the Spanish Capet surname was first found in Aragon, the general region that Spanish Herods are suspect from my finding earlier in this update. It just so happens that Heneti lived on the Parthenius river, a term leading to Argos elements, and it just seemed that we were tracing Argos elements through the white Cretan bull cult to the bull symbol of Esus. Might Aragon apply to those Argives?
I recall the theory (of mine) that "Sais" in Egypt was a version of "Esaus," itself the makings of "Zeus." There was more to the Esau=Zeus theory than that, and it made sense. "Esus" is not a far cry from these terms, and he did have a bull symbol. Zeus-cult Curetes founded Troy, and it seemed that Esus-loving "Treveri" should trace to Troyes and Troy. Zeus was the Moloch bull furnace, human-sacrifice cult out of Tyre, the same that produced MelQART in Carthage, the place that I think Kretschmers/Kratschmers also trace to (besides to Crete).
Argos is important for making more sense of all this because I trace the heart symbol to Ardea, beside Argive-founded Lanuvio. It was founded by mythical Diomedes, son of Tydeus. There's a good chance, therefore, that Tydeus elements were root to Treveri's capital, Titelberg/Tetelbiorg. But even if all correct, there are still holes to fill in understanding how Herods were from Ardea. If the torteaux-using Inces were indeed in honor of Inachus, then Inachus Argives should trace also to the Insubres, and we would expect these Argives to have been Danaans so as to find merger with Rhodes-based Danaans.
We read at his article that Diomedes was an Aetolian on his father's side, and that he came to rule Argos because Tydeus had married an Argive. We read: "This is so because his father Tydeus left Calydon and fled to Argos in order to avoid being persecuted by his uncle Agrius. He married King Adrastus's daughter DeiPYLE" (caps mine). Agrius smacks the mythical Charops and Oeagrus line, the proto-Ugrians that made up Hungarians from Arpads. As it's known that Oeagrus was a peoples on the Hebros and north of it, compare "Adrastus" to "Odrysian," the latter a peoples at Arda on the Hebros.
It appears that Tydeus married the Atreus line which had ruled Argos as per a golden lamb symbol. Atreus was son of Pelops, whose father (Tantalus) in turn was identified (by me so alone-ly) with Attaleia/Antalya, the city that I traced to "Aetolia." Therefore, Diomedes founded a city beside Ardea because he was related to the Arda location that named Ardea. And with Atreus we're dealing with the Argos line that became the Menelaus Spartans, married to Helen. If you view "Lanuvium" as La-Nova-um, it could be that the root, "La," was from an Ala-like term, you see. And it just so happens that Aetolians were from Elis. Or perhaps, Lanuvium means, "the cloud."
It should be repeated here that the Menelaus line is the one that I see at the root of the Pylos > Pilate line, and then on a wholly different approach, I found that the birth of Pilate was from Pictish Caledonians, traced to Calydon...beside Aetolia. Moreover, it was found that the birth of Pilate was from the part of proto-Hungarians from the Roman Juno cult...which was determined, along with Jupiter, to be the Cappeo lion line from the Kupa river.
Now Helen is identified as the Galli priesthood to which Pharisees are traced, and, besides, the Pharisees are viewed as the Cappeo-lion line out of BREScia. We had just traced the Kretschmers to Pharisees, and they founded BRESlau. Moreover, Kretschmers were Bohemians, and then I trace Boii to Boiotians, the peoples that I feel gave the world the Israel-ruling Sadducees. It just so happens that I identify Hercules (especially his son, Hyllus) as a Galli peoples, and Hercules (identified in myth with a grail) descended from Danaans of Argos. Then, beside Ardea and even closer to Lanuvium lived some Hernici, also called Hircinians. Hercules was married to Hebe, probably the Hebrews that named the Hebros.
Did we trace Kretschmers to a merger with Eburovices out of Brescia, and therefore to Aphrodite? Yes, and she first appeared in Italy at Ardea. Remember, Aphrodite depicted the Heneti on the Parthenius river (in Phrygia, west of the Halys) that was a term out of Cilicia (where proto-Danaan Adana is located along with grail-line Cati)...that was involved in the founding of Argos. Kretschmers were also traced to the Rhea > Cybele line, and the latter was the Phrygian goddess, served by the Galli priesthood, married to Attis = Cati.
I traced the Odrysians on the Hebros to mythical Dryas, and he to Doris / Dorus elements. One Dorus was son of Hellen, and the other Doris was wife to Nereus, the Nereids that I traced to the mother goddess, Nerthus, which Varni worshipped. That works pretty good. But then we could ask why Doris was the name of a wife of Herod the great dog. As it appears that Herods liked Cyprus elements, by what coincidence is it that Aphrodite, though born on Cyprus, traces to the Hebros where Odrysians lived? Clearly, she and the Galli queers were one, trace-able from "Kabeiri" to the "Khabur" tributary of the Aphrodite-like Euphrates.
Let me tell you that it's not me who uses "queer" in a very derogatory way that has the problem, but it's those who respect queers as normal people that have the problem, and they, such angels as they like to portray themselves, like to demonize people like me who think queers have a sick problem. The queers of Greece got so bad that grown men would date teenage men, and from that it led to the Ares / Cubit cult of pedophiles. Today's queers would proudly make whores of your teenage sons, and this disease spreads worldwide now because of the "angels" who work to protect it from "homophobes" like me.
The stars of the Arbuthnotts are Moray / Douglas stars tracing to Moravians and Bohemians. The KretschMER/CreekMORE Bohemians should apply. The Bauts/Baults were shown to apply to the Arbuthnotts, and it's their "Pax in bello" motto that I want to address now. For the Treveri Gauls only get us as far back as the first century BC, but Bellovesus Gauls go back a few centuries yet. Did we see Pharisees in the Kretschmers? I think I caught glimpse of them, or at least proto-Pharisees, the Parisii. The Bellovesus Galli can be traced to Perche, the Normandy location of Bellamys.
But then let's not forget that Lithuanians traced to the Cornwall peninsula, where the Percivals and Pierces/Perses were first found. To make sense of this, I traced Bellamys to mythical Bellerophon and his Pegasus ally in Lycia, for the Masseys, who issued in-part from Bellamys of Perche, use a Pegasus in Crest. There was a Lada goddess in Lycia, and I think that explains why Lithuanians of the Cornwall peninsula are involved in the Perche line of Bellamys. Remember, mythical Lada of Lithuania is generally thought to have been the wife of Perche-like Perkunas.
Moreover, Segovesus, the brother of Bellovesus, invaded Germany's Hercynian forest. Wikipedia: "...In fact 'Hercynian' has a Proto-Celtic derivation, from perkunia, later erkunia. Julius Pokorny lists Hercynian as being derived from *perku- 'oak' (compare quercus)." Never mind "oak," and regardless of how Wikipedia tries to further define this term, it sure smacks of Perkunas, the Lithuanian god...that I traced to Verkana=Hyrcania...at the south shore of the Castor-like Caspian sea, near Rhagae/Rey, the city in which I see the origin of mythical Rhea. To me, this speaks of an origin of the Kertschmers (already traced to Rhea and to the Rey surname) in the Segovesus Galli-queer priesthood. Zeus was one of the biggest queer cults of all.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hercynian_ForestAll the mainline Greek characters of myth were queer cults. Disgusting testament to world history. The rulers of the world were permitted by God to be the disgusting men so that the test of history under the powers of satan would prove unworthy to continue into eternity.
Rome's obsession with conquering more and more peoples was not only about taking their taxes, but the so-called "Pax Romana" was a program to Romanize all the conquered peoples. People would be killed in order to Romanize the world according to the vision of the disgusting stupids. Where has there ever been a more stupid people than the Roman Caesars? In the modern Masons. In the founders of Washington. Craft and courage they knew, but all driven by greed and selfish ambition. The mark of the Pharisees.
Thus, when we see the "Pax" motto term, it was likely code for a Roman line, the Roman line of Ladon, from Capys. We've already seen the Vilnius fagot symbol using the axe (symbol of Crete) that belonged to Romans, and who knows but the sticks all tied together is code for the alliance of queerboxes. The Welsh / Cheshire David motto, "Pax et copia," is interesting alongside its Coat, which looks like a version of the Rodham and Oriole/Royal Coats. Rodhams are tracing not only to the bull-depicted god of the Treveri, but to Radziwills out of Vilnius.
I'm therefore claiming that Bellovesus and Segovesus Galli formed the Treveri Galli, or were closely related to them, and that Segovesus lines in Germany produced, or merged with, the Lithuanians Perkunas and Lada cults, from the Gorgons that were, not only Pegasus, but the namers of Verkana/Hyrcania (now called, Gorgan). If we want to trace Bellovesus Galli further back, I say go to the Butteri Latins, for he was of a Bituriges Galli. "The Bituriges (Bituriges-Cubi) was a tribe with its capital at Bourges (Avaricum)." Hard to say whether "Avaricum" relates to "Treveri," but if true, then I would trace Treveri to Avaris Hyksos.
Recall my quote above: "Lynceus likewise traces to Ligurians, for he was made son of mythical Aphareus (= Avaris elements in Greece), who was brother to Leucippus, and there happened to be a Leuci peoples of Gaul to the immediate north of Lingones/Lugii, the latter apparently from the Lynceus cult (see also sixth update of July). By another myth writer(s), Lynceus was the son of Aegyptus, brother to Danaus. Aphareus and Leucippus..." The Treveri lived beside the Leuci, who of course smack of Lycians.
As we can see, the Aphareus link to Leucippus should define the Bituriges capital, not far from the Leuci. We even see the Bellovaci nearby. But as Bellovesus traced to the Masseys of Cheshire, and as those Masseys were Veres now tracing to Treveri, note the DIVOdunum (now Metz) at the foot of the Treveri, for the Cheshire capital was at first, Diva/Divio, itself traced to the Cheshire Davids.
In the second update of June, 2000, where I thought I had good reason for tracing the Traby/Sadowski 'Q' to the Queen surname, it had at first been thought that it should link to Quinces and therefore to Wins / Winchesters. . It just so happens that the latter the Gwynns/Winns use a green Shield, the color of the Quinn Shield with Pegasus upon it. Somewhere in this update, there is a gold on part-green Shield, the Gwynn/Winn-Coat symbol.
Winchester was earlier, Winton, smacking of the Prussian / Lusatian Wends, a branch of Heneti>Veneti. More to the point, see Vindonissa/Windisch on the Gaul map above (at Leuci link), beside the Raetians whom I ventured to guess were the root of Radziwills of Vilnius. That is, in the last update, I traced Radziwills to Rhetia elements, and to Rhetia (sometines "Raetia et Vindelicia"). Windisch is not a far distance from Sion/Sitten of Switzerland, the place to which I trace Queens/Swans. This can not only suggest that Winchester (and Windsor) traces to Windesch, but can explain why the Traby 'Q' could be traced both to Quinces of Winchester and to Queens.
There is a very good chance that the Lithuanian elements of Masonic importance were Wends, for as the Lithuanian elements, like other Masonic branches, were traced to Merovingians, the latter too were from Veneti.
I must confess, I am tiring of these topics now. I need a long period of spirutual refreshment.
Here's an interesting video from KA, on the O-dministrations love of the Koran and simultaneous Bible-burning event. Makes one wonder what could be next if Obama with the evil grin continues after 2012. I've seen photos of Obama's smile looking very satanic. It reveals his inner man to me. The grin appears to reveal a man with a massive destructive agenda, and very gleeful about it. Have you ever seen it? It comes out in news-related photos. Everyone reads teeth in a different way, however.
This update is not 6,666 bytes long. Don't forget, America. Your masters are deceivers. Protect your children. Tell them what is really going on. Readers all over the world, the American spirit is going out everywhere, cloaked in goodness, wearing long tassals, and seeking your country's money while Romanizing you too. Don't get me wrong. I'm not talking about American people in general. They are as good or as bad as everyone else. Unfortunately, evil must prevail again for a short time. Frightening evil, I'm afraid.
NEXT UPDATEEspecially for new or confused readers
MYTH CODES 101
shows where I'm coming from.For serious investigators:
How to Work with Bloodline TopicsHere's what I did when I had spare time on my hands:
Ladon Gog and the Hebrew RoseOn this page, you will find evidence enough that NASA did not put men on the moon.
Starting at this paragraph, there is a single piece of evidence -- the almost-invisible dot that no one on the outside was supposed to find -- that is enough in itself to prove the hoax.
End-times false signs and wonders may have to do with staged productions like the lunar landing.The rest of the Gog-in-Iraq story is in PART 2 of the
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