What's amazing for someone like me who suspects an Illuminati tie to pre-tribulationism is that Geoffrey Plantagenet was the great-grandson of queen Margaret of Scotland, while Godfrey de Bouillon was Margaret's grandson through her other daughter. One could begin to suspect that the Rose Line was from Margaret or her husband, Malcolm III, or both.

The blood of Malcolm III, being that of the MacAlpins, would therefore be a Vere line, and while this puts the boar line (of the Druids) through Malcolm, yet the Veres, as Pict royals, were also of Rose-Line Caledonians (for Caledonians were Picts).

A key to understanding Rosicrucian/Vere loyalties is in Macbeth, the villain in Shakespeare's play (Shakespeare was a Rosicrucian). On the other hand, Malcolm III was (in the play) the nice guy to whom the throne rightly belonged. Yet both Macbeth and Malcolm III were from daughters of Malcolm II. My conclusion is that the rose-line had chosen to be loyal to the line of Malcolm III for the blood of his father, Duncan, the other nice fellow for whom an audience feels stricken (he was murdered by Macbeth). The father of Macbeth was Findlàech (mac Ruadri), ruler of Moray, and he must be the reason that Rosicrucians rejected Macbeth.

So who was Duncan? The son of Crinan the abbot, son of a Duncan, son of another Duncan, son of Duncan (oh, such a wonderful name) the priest of Dull (not such a wonderful name), and this final Duncan (music to my ears) was "descended from the Priests of Dull from c. 850, the family of Tir Conaill; 5th century descent from Niall High King of Ireland"
http://www.pa.uky.edu/~shapere/dkbingham/d0001/g0000025.html#I16944

All right, so Duncan was from the High Kings of Ireland, defined as the Apple-Line Milesians who first established the Gaels in Ireland, but mixed in Boar-Line Gaul with the Rose-Line Redones, and in Spain with the Iberians, and in Egypt with red-Gorgons. I think to the Neo-Nazi Rosicrucians that spells something worse than "mut," but let's not breath a word to the red-rose Rosicrucians, for they too like to consider themselves pure in some way.

Macbeth, ruler of Moray, on the other hand, though also from the high kings of Ireland, was from the Loarn clan (from kings of Dal Riada) that was nearly wiped out by the Picts in the early eighth century. This would explain why the Veres (and Rosicrucians/Shakespeare) who were Picts before they married the Scot royals, didn't like the Macbeth family. It would therefore appear that the Rosicrucians were for the Pictish side in Kenneth MacAlpin's genes rather than the Dal Riata (Scot) side, suggesting that the Pictish princess (i.e. MacAlpin's mother) whom Alpin married was a Vere gal.

Later, even Kenneth himself suppressed the Loarns, yet they moved north to Moray (Scotland) and from there considered themselves kings of Scotland. I have a suspicion that during the 200-year "disappearance" of the Loarn clan, they mixed it up in Moray with European Moravians, as Moray was/is also called "Moravia." As it's said that Moravia was named just as the Avar empire folded, it is thought by some that Moravia was an Avar entity. Note the similarities between "Avar" and "Vere," and "Moravia" and "Merovee" (the latter was progenitor of the Merovingians).

Because Merovingian power folded in 751 and shortly thereafter, while Moravia was formed just at the turn of the century, one could get the impression that Merovingians named Moravia. It is said that Moravia was named after the Morava river, but, the question is, what named the river? I can't find it. I suspect that Merovee, possibly a mythical term as some suggest, may have been a variation of the mythical Merope, the sister of Dardanus' mother. Dardanus gave birth to Erichthonius and the Tros Trojans; Merovingians claimed descent from Tros Trojans.

Not long after considering hard whether or not to print my theory that "Merovee" was a version of "Mer(o)-Bia," and that the bee symbol of the Merovingians was thus produced from "Bia/Obia," I made the Merope-Merovee connection tentatively until I should find evidence for it, and finally, tonight actually (October 11, 2005), as I write, I learned that "Merope" means "bee eater." If that's not enough, there was another Merope (not necessarily a different peoples but likely the same) who married the founder of the boar line, that is the founder of Corinth: Sisyphus.
see http://www.mugglenet.com/books/name_origins.shtml

There are other definitions of "Merope" given online, one being "bee mask." I then found that the White Throated Bee Eater (a bird) is called "Merops albicollis." That settles it. But what could "bee-eater" mean? Wouldn't "honey-eater" make more sense, as in a bear? I noticed that Merope and Sisyphus gave birth to "Glaucus" (king of Corinth), and while this term is said to mean "shiny" or "bluish-green," doesn't it look like "glucose" (Greek "glykys" = "sweet")? Glaucus

Then, knowing that the Greek for "honey" is "meli/melita," I found out that Sisyphus honored Melicertes. The latter was the son of Ino with whom she threw herself into the sea when the myth writer was insinuating that she was the peoples of Halia, the mother of Rhoda, thus revealing a Rose-Line alliance with Boar-Line Sisyphus of Corinth.

My problem now is in deciding whether I was correct in viewing "Miletus" as the Apple (Greek "milo") Line since "meli/melitus" means "honey." This may allow Miletus to be a bee symbol, especially as a bee in Greek is "melissa"...something to keep in mind. Yet "melo" in Latin and French means "melon." Milo I de Vere, because I have found the variations, "Milon" and "Maelo," would still appear to allude to the Apple Line. A bee in French is "abeille," similar to "apple," and perhaps the significance in both terms is Apollo.

I haven't been able to find how "Merope" means "bee eater," as there are multiple definitions given for "op." But I did find that the Bee family crest is akin to the Vere family crest, and that the Bee crest uses a Fleur de Lis design in the three crowns. Note how the Bee crest has a red-and-yellow check design, virtually the same as the Vere crest.

Because Merope married Sisyphus, while Aeetes has been pegged (along with Sisyphus) as a founder of Corinth, it looks like Merope and Aeetes are one and the same, "Aeetes" being used when referring to the same peoples ruling at the throne of Colchis. This Merope-Aeetes equation has teeth since both were children of Helios. Aeetes is also revealed as Melicertes, for when Ino threw herself into the sea, Melicertes was brought by a dolphin to Corinth and placed under a pine tree, the pine being the symbol of Attis (same as "Aeetes" I'm sure). Sisyphus found Melicertes under the pine and brought him to Corinth. Therefore, if the Merovingians were from Merope, then the Franks were not only from Trojans and Hecate-rooted Spartans, but from Caucasia prior to that.

Why a dolphin. My dictionary tells that "porpoise" derives from the French and Latin "porcus pisces. lit., hog fish." "Dolphin" itself was "delphis" in Greek, evoking Delphi, the very-occult capital of Phocis! That exclamation mark is there because Phocis was a boar-line realm in that it stemmed from the early rulers of Corinth. Perhaps this suggests that mermaids and mermen are to be viewed as boar-line peoples, as for example a certain Glaucus (same name as the king of Corinth) had his legs turned into a fish tail.

Remember, Attis became almost-exclusively a Phrygian god, and was moreover the root of the Trojans and of Hercules, but as Attis was son of Manes, the bloodline went back to Armenia (in Caucasia not far from Colchis). Indeed, Glaucus had been desired by Circe (Circasia/Caucasia), the sister of Aeetes, if that helps to connect Corinth to Caucasia. All this, then, if indeed it connected later to Moravia/Moray/Merovee, looks like the root of Malcolm III.

Unfortunately, the blood type of Margaret's mother (Agatha) is not known with certainty. Margaret's father was an Anglo-Saxon who goes back to the Kent boar line so that she would be more a Calydonian-Boar than a Rose-Line Calydonian. It's interesting that Margaret was born while living among the Varangian Rus, for "Varangian" evokes the Vere clan on two scores, the "Var," and the "Angian." Perhaps another coincidence. Yet recall from the previous chapter that the Vere line went into Sweden to put forth part of the Yngvi-Frey Ingaevones. Well, the Varangians were from Sweden.

My findings have been that the Vere line in Sweden was the Fir-Bolg branch of Lug/Loki that brought their goddess "Dana" with them so as to name themselves "Danes/Danir." But not before mixing genes with Rig, whom (in a previous chapter) I identified as the Rox/Rus from Rosh. To what extent the Varangians were connected to Rig I do not know, but as they were called "Ruotsi," I see a direct connection with the Ruthene/Rodez (of France). The latter were also called "Rusi" in France, and moreover are connected to Rhodes, wherefore they and the Varangians should prove to be a Rose (and therefore red) line peoples. I'll assume so.

I've know for quite some time, and yet don't know what to make of it, that Avars yet live today on the Caspian sea (in Daghestan, beside Tubal), at a place called "Varan," that term looking a lot like "Varangian." We know that the Varangians, as Vikings, carved dragons on the ends of their ships, and even as "varangy" and "varangyos béka" ["beka" means "frog"] means "toad" in Hungarian, so I found that "varan" means "lizard," as for example "The Komodo Dragon (Varanus komodoensis) is The largest Lizard in The world" (italics mine, brackets not mine).
encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Varanidae

In a John Taylor Arms (1887-1953) painting of a Viking dragon ship (website below), the sail has a green dragon superimposed on a red sun, and in fact the Varangian Rus leader was styled, "Red Sun," indicating red-dragon-line ancestry. Again, that would make an Ireland-to-Scandinavia connection, and/or a Redone-to-Scandinavia connection.
http://www.centaurgalleries.com/Main/Item.cfm?ItemNo=05725

There are many types of dragons around the world, but see that the green Vere dragon matches perfectly with the so-called "Wivern" dragon, and of course note that "Vere" seems possibly a part of that term:

"PHYSIOLOGY: These [Wiverns] are dragons which have two wings, but only two legs. Sometimes shown as having claws on the wings, acting like another pair of "hands". The Wyvern is sometimes depicted as having a razor sharp stinger filled with poison on the end of its tail.

HISTORY: The history of the wyvern seems to come from Europe. The history of this dragon is not so clear...Wyvern's have been depicted in heraldry on shields and banners for hundreds of years, and is considered a sign of strength to those who bear the symbol. One of the more famous wyverns is Vermithrax in the movie DragonSlayer."

http://www.michaellc.com/The_Library_3.html

I found this online: "Wivern or Wyver," which brings the term closer to "Vere." At another website I found that "Wiver" is an "Old North French" word meaning "viper."

It's perhaps indicative of the Picts, who chose rulers based on female lines, that "Gold and green dragons are Female. Bronze, brown and blue are Male." (website above).

When Margaret's father escaped his enemies in England, he went to live with the Varangian Rus of Galicia/Kiev (Galicia was known as "Red Rus"), and later with the new king of Hungary, Andrew, who himself had (prior to becoming king) been protected by the same Varangian ruler that was protecting Margret's father. Therefore, close relationships seem evident between the Varangians, Margaret, and the Andrew fold of Hungarians. Indeed, it is believed by some that Margaret's mother (Agatha) was born to royal Hungarians (same bloodline as Andrew). If true, that would make Margaret part Hungarian.

But the fact that Margaret's Anglo-Saxon father was with the Varangians in the first place would suggest that her bloodline was thereby connected to those Rus...i.e. that the Varangians and Anglo-Saxons came from the same stock. Couldn't it seem that the Varangians took that name from the Vere-Anglo alliance in Scotland, when this alliance moved into Sweden. It may be that this alliance was formed when the Angles were controlling Lothian, at which point they may also have been controlling Roslin in Midlothian. In this way, the Varangians would be a Rose line if "Roslin" indeed means "Rose-line." I had called the Varangians a "Ros Line" years ago but in no way could I find a connection to Roslin, until now.

What I'm implying is that the Rus are connected to Rhodes. That connection is solid through the Redones, the progenitors of the Scandinavian Rus as well as the Slav Rus. The Varangian Rus mixed it up in Kiev (modern Ukraine) with the Slav Rus (themselves from the Ruthene), which is why the Varangian king became called "Yuroslav." The historical fact that the Slav Rus are said to have called on the Varangian Rus (while they were yet in Sweden) to come help them in a dispute tells further that the two Rus peoples were related.

This leads me to believe that a third branch of Rus, the Biblical/Caucasian Rosh, must likewise be connected to Rhodes, and my hunch is that "Rhoda" herself depicted the Rosh ("Rod" somehow evolved to "Ros," likely with a "Roth" intermediate).

Could the Avars of Varan have been the Rosh? If so, the Moravians, if indeed they were Avars as is sometimes suggested, would have been Rosh, but if so the founders of Moray are suspect.

It is said that "dagh" means "mountain," and yet because our "dog" derives from "daga," might Daghestan have been the extension of nearby Verkana (meaning "wolf land"), the Gorgon city from which I claim the wolf-line originated. It had been my impression that Verkana (or "Verkhana"), now the city of Gorgan, was the root of Georgia, where Colchis was located, suggesting that Corinth, and therefore the boar line, consisted of Medusa (i.e. Mede) Gorgons...who had been Comarians in Media.

To the north of Varan/Daghestan, the Avars became the Kavars/Kabars (of Balkar-Kabardino) when mixing it up with the neighboring Khazars. The Khazars (not including their Jewish rulers) were Bulgars, wherefore connection with the Fir-Bolgs is possible. The Khazars were disclosed in a document, written by a Jewish-Khazar ruler, to be Togarmites (sons of Gomer). I would suggest that "Togarmah" was the origin of "Dag" (i.e. "dog") and therefore the origin of the wolf line. Therefore, the Trojan co-founder, Teucer, if indeed he was a symbol for Togarmah, was the wolf-line element in the Trojans.

The Latin "canis" (our "canine") may have derived from "Tarchon" (descendant of Attis), the eponym of a Lydian peoples who put forth the Tarquini branch of Etruscans (and possibly the Kok-Turks as well). The point is, "Tarchon" likewise evokes "Togarmah." But as Etruscans have also been pegged as Tubali, note that Varan was right next door to Tubal, which itself was on the Armenia border where also the province of Gogarene was located. And as the Etruscans called themselves "Rasenna/Rasna," the Avars/Tubali may very well have been the Biblical Rosh!

The Iberi who became the Irish are said to be from the Iberi of Spain, who in turn are said to be from the Iberi (sons of Japheth) of Tubal, and one would then surmise that "Avar" stemmed from "Iberi." But note that "ebor" means "boar" so that "Iberi" and "Avar" could likewise mean "boar"! Then note that the mythical Rhodope gave birth to Heber and Kikkon, wherefore the Irish and Scots, named early after Heber, were not only from Caucasia, not only from Rhodes, but from the Thracian region of Rhodope. The Heberide islands in north-west Scotland, come to mind.

Is it a coincidence that "hive" seems a variation of "Iber/Heber" and that a bee in French is an "abeille" (the "r" often modifies to an "l")? In other words, as play on words, the Iberi could either have gone by the codeword "boar" or "bee." But also a bear (Old English "bera"). It's interesting that a bee-hive in French is a "ruche," evoking the Rox/Ros.

Behold, the region between Varan and Tubal was "Alban," and therefore I have little doubt that this was the origin of the Elvin peoples (and Alba/Scotland of the Alpin rulers) which Nicholas de Vere cites with pride as being part of his Scythian bloodline. As these peoples were from Medea, it is possible that the Mittani, that Nicholas claims was also a part of his bloodline, were Medes out of Armenia, for Medes were then called "Mata" (evoking the occult "Maat").

Apparently, the Iberi/Avars became the Hebers of Rhodope, who then became the Illyrians (in the Gaul migration) that founded (European) Albania (facing east-Italy), that then put forth the Veneti, Etruscans, Ligurians, and the Boii (bee?) who named Bologne and Bohemia (anciently "Boihaemum"). The Boi family crest uses two gold stars identical to the Vere star, and has a central bull/ox, evoking Oxford (founded by the Veres).

[Update August 2006 -- Just found that the English Buy/Boy/Bouie Coat uses three bees on blue background, very close to the Leve/Leaf Coat. End Update]

Bohemia was virtually one with Moravia. Then we find the Boii on the Rhine en route to possibly becoming the Franks; north of the Boii (still on the Rhine) were the Ubii (looks like "bee") that may have been a part of the Menapii (peoples of the Isle of Man). The Menapii were also located in north-east Ireland (beside Boinn) and among the Morini in Belgica. The following code-studded statement associated the Irish wolf line (Lug) with red and white branches of Aryans, but also with what may have been the Vanir/Bia bees:

"Lugh was seen again in Ireland at the time Conchubar and the Men of the Red Branch went following white birds southward to the Boinn at the time of Cuchulain’s birth."

In German, "biene" means "bee," and this term evokes the Biaini that were the founders of Lake Van (Armenia). I trace the Biblical Rosh to Lake Van (though not necessarily to the Bia bloodline). I'm thinking that the Kabeiri cult was also "Heberi/Iberi" and that it was, as a secret society, viewed as a bee hive. The Irish were also called "Iverni."

"Iberi" and "Avar" seem possibly connected to Verkana, as for example "Varan" may have been a corrupted version of "Verkana." "Vere" may then mean "wolf" so that "werewolf" may be a mythical symbol devised to depict Vere- and other wolf-line peoples. It's all too-possible that "Vere" was at first "Verk," even as one website gave reason to believe that the town of Worcester derived from "Vere." At another website, determined to prove that Shakespeare was Edward de Vere (17th Earl of Oxford, we read that the earldoms of Oxford and Worcestor were allied in that theatrical cause:

"Now the Blue Boar was, of course, the cognizance of the Earls of Oxford, who had a house in Aldgate and had kept players since 1492. The performance of A Sackful of News - the only known performance of a play at the "Bores Head without Aldgate" occurred in the time of John de Vere 16th Earl of Oxford, and it was his son, Edward 17th Earl, whose servants together with those of the Earl of Worcester were licensed to play at the Boar's Head (Whitechapel) in 1602."

http://www.sourcetext.com/sourcebook/library/bowen/25worcester.htm

The "Bore's Head" above should read like the other 16 instances of "Boar's Head" found in the article (i.e. the author printed wrongly). He writes that the Boar's Head Tavern was next door to the Blue Boar Inn.

Now in the first century AD, there was a nearby town called Worceter, the capital of the Welsh region called, "Paradise of Powys." Could the "Worc" be a variation of "verk" = "wolf" so that the town was in memory of Verkana? Indeed, the Welsh name was "Guircon" (while the modern name of Verkana is Gorgan). Wroxeter was "a village in the county of Shropshire, England...It is located on the site of the Roman city of Viroconium"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wroxeter

Wikipedia reports that "Viroconium" is to be divided as Viro-Conium, which ineed evokes the Veres. This could mean that Veres (i.e. under that name) were in Britain as early as the first century AD, long before the Conqueror came with Stewarts, Eatons and Polloks in 1066.

Or did these families come that late? Isn't it possible that they, since they were Saxons (or near to it), were in England long before the Conqueror, and that they sided with him against the so-called Anglo-Saxon English kings (seems to me the kings were mostly of Angle blood)? I'm thinking that the Isle of Bute (then called "Rothesay") was inhabited by Stewarts under another name, possibly "Bute" and "Rose" or variations thereof (e.g. "Roth/Rothes/Rothsay"). My main evidence for this is that Stewarts were close to the Eatons, while the latter seem to be none other than the Eadon boars and possibly mainline Druids i.e. that were in Britain long before the Conqueror.

This, if true, means that the Stewarts and Eatons were not Q-Celt Gaels, but the P-Celt Riata/Redones who mingled with the Gaelic High Kings of Ireland, who together became the Scots of the Clyde and Dal Riada, who in that region named Arran, Bute, Argyll and Ayrshire after the Greek Aryans: Ares, Argos, Uranus, and Bute/Erechtheus (of the Cecrops bloodline).

I'm suggesting that the Stewarts and Eatons were branches of the mythical Danann Rose/Rhodes Line, the Fir-Bolg that is, and that they were therefore a Vere-Pict branch. I suspect that the Eadons were depicted by the white boar of the Welsh Mabinogian myths, and by the Torc Triath boar whom Arthur chased out of Cornwall into the sea, whom the Merlin myths called "wolf of the sea."

I have reason to believe that "Fir" meant "wolf" even as "Vere" may have been "Verk" at first. I discovered also that "firec" and other variations came to mean "sea," in that the sea was fierce (i.e. both the sea and the wolf shared the same term rooted in "fierce"). In that way, "Fir Bolg" could be viewed either as Sea Bolg or as Wolf Bolg. But it's also interesting that the term "Vere" may have connected with "war," as that too is fierce, and of course "war" modified to "bar," the Old English for "boar," yet another fierce thing. In fact, those who use boars to depict themselves today will tell that it is a symbol of ferocity (note the "feroc" = "wolf" in that last term).

I'm also thinking that these families of the Clyde moved to and named Edinburgh and Roslin, and, as is known, some Roses also moved up north to live near the Rosses and Morays (deep into Pict-land), and at that time had relations with the Vere fold. It may be that these northern Roses, who were not the Rosses (some websites claim), were Rosicrucian progenitors...who fought against the Laorn clan that would later put forth the Shakespeare-hated Macbeth of Moray-and-Ross. As the Veres would become the Rosicrucians (and possibly Shakespeare himself), it seems that the Roses were intimately tied to the Veres of Pictland, for the Roses were likely the reason for the term, "Rosicrucian," and of course the rose at the center of the Rosicrucian cross would depict that clan. It is important if I'm correct in equating "Rose" with the Rus, for that would require a Rose-clan connection to the Redones/Aereda, which I think exists in the Rose-clan connection to the Riada/Araida.

The Pict-Rose alliance seems to be the essence of the Pict-Scot alliance under the Alpin rulers, and together they renamed Caledonia, "Alba," and they were the Elvin rulers who also founded the mythical Alfheim, the home of Frey.

It may sound crazy to tie Saxons to Picts, but here's how simply it worked. The Vere-Picts were Fir-Bolgs who became half of the Yngli (the other half was Jute) who put forth the Danes, Angles and Saxons. In Normandy, Saxons (i.e. the Stewarts, Polloks, etc) became allied to the Rollo-Viking Danes, and it is furthermore known that these Danes of Normandy married nobles at Anjou...who were Veres! Thus, the Dane branch of Veres married the Anjou branch of Veres, which I think became the Vere two-headed dragon. But even if there is another explanation for the two heads on one dragon, I am certain -- CERTAIN -- that the Dane Veres marrying the Anjou Veres became the Templar movement itself. This was THE Holy Grail cause, a Satanic peoples -- in very truth communicating (for the cause) with demons and with Satan himself -- attempting to rule the world in the name of Jesus Christ, in place of Jesus Christ.

This must be the backdrop to the end-time "Great Tribulation" period, and to great war, Armageddon, at which time, the Bible fore-tells us, the rulers of the world will actually fight against Jesus even when they see him visibly returning. This is because an enormous amount of work has been placed in the quest to rule the world under a perfect Satanic system (based on the greed of its rulers and their manipulation/control of the working masses, all working diligently/gladly for their profits).

Now some might view Shropshire as a white-dragon town since the Saxons were depicted as a white dragon. But the town belonged first to the red dragon, which then became the white dragon upon spawning the Ingaevones (Saxons, Angles, Danes, etc) from the Yngvi-Frey (half Jutes). Clearly, the Jutes/Goths (depicted also as a white boar) were regarded as the white dragon that made the red dragon white.

Does "Shrop" mean Something-Bee? After all, aside from the "op" in "Merop" meaning "bee," honey may qualify as a sirop/syrup. It must be sheer coincidence, because I agree that "Shrop" means "shrub," even as the Saxon name given to the city (7th century) was "Scrobbesbyrig," which seems rooted in "scrub" (my dictionary tells that "scrub"(land) derives from "shrub"). But the town was then renamed "Salop" and so the "op" remains! May I ask if "Salop" and "Merop" mean the same think, Sea Bee? For just as "sea" and "salt" in Greek is one word, "hali," so "sel/sal" (= "salt"; Old-English "sealt") meant "sea."

Moreover, "Salop" derived from "Salopesberia," and while some online sites suggest unconvincingly that the latter was a variant of the Saxon, "Scrobbesbyrig," other websites claim that Salopesberia was named by "Anglo-French" peoples; that to me sounds like the Vere/Merovingian dragon line. Yet it's interesting that the Saxons had lived in the city earlier than the arrival of the Conqueror, because the Polloks and Eytons, and I think also the Stewarts, claim to descend from Saxons.

Note that Hungarian honey is "mez," evoking "Mata/Media" (all-important because Hungarians were from the Medes); Polish honey is "miod."

Could all this be the origin of the Aryan "WASP," an acronym (according to my dictionary) for "White Anglo-Saxon Protestant." Were the Medes likened to honey due to the gold color? Was Madai, son of Japheth, from whom the Medes are said to come, a blue-eyed blonde? And yet the Medes, as revealed by myth, were also "frogs," as per the frog goddess and witch, Hecate, ancestor of the witch, Medea, eponym of the Medes and no doubt connected to the Magi/Magyar Medes ("magic" derives from the Magi).

It's interesting that the Merovingians were connected to the Macons of France, as that term may connect to the Magyars/Magi, and even to the Mycones of the Greek Theater. The Merovingian Illuminati called themselves "Freres Macons." Note that "Magyar" easily modifies to "Magogars," especially as Gogi peoples were called "Gogars." The proto-Hungarian Magyars did live, after all, in far-north Russia.

If Salop was a Sea-Bee/Merovee town as I'm beginning to suspect, then it doesn't surprise me that it was located near Gwynedd (Wales), since Gwynedd was founded by the Morbihan Veneti that had founded Gwenea (Brittany). ( See Shropshire location near Welsh border).

Caucasian Alba (or Albania) was what became Azerbaijan (Azer-Baijan), and I note that the "baijan" in that term reminds me of the Morbihan (Mor-Bihan/Bigan). In Dutch (a Frank dialect), a bee is a "bij," suggesting that the French "abeille" may have been rooted in "abej." Indeed, for a bee in Spanish is "abeja." On the Caspian coast of Azerbaijan was the city of Baku, and so I note that in Polish, a bee is a "bak." To that I would invoke our "wax" (Old English "weax") and "wick" (Old English "weoce"), for wax and honey seem synonymous enough. Therefore, "Merovech," a variation of "Merovee," may very well have been a version of Sea Bee.

But if "Merovee" is to be viewed as "Merobee," one must then wonder if "Europa" is somehow closely related to the term, or if "Europe" means Something Bee. In Greek myth, "eury" means "wide-range" (recall Eurystheus being a Greek king but also Geryon in Britain) so that "Europa" may mean a wide-spread bee line -- i.e. Europe is made up of bee peoples...from Merope? Pelops (pale-skin bees?) comes to mind, the root of the Golden Fleece (the pelt of a sheep evoking pale-skins = Aryans), for his son, Atreus, who I am now suspecting as one of the False Prophet's lamb-like horns, married "Aerope," who seems to be a variation of Europa.

Not far along the Severn river from Worcestor was Gloucestor, and this place seems named after Glaucus, mythical king of Corinth, because his name is said to mean "shine" while the early named of Gloucestor was "Caer Glow" and "Gleawecastre" (see online Encyclopedia). And this explains why Worcestor was Boar Country, Vere Boar Country. But then why not also nearby Shropshire?

When Margaret was grown, she returned to Britain with some of her mother's clan coming along, Hungarians. But the Drummonds also came, and they were in part from king Andrew of Hungary, and in part from Yuroslav, king of the Varangians. I had suspected that the Ross clan was of Drummond blood since the Ross clan is to this day called "Children of Andrew." But other websites tell that the Ross clan was in Scotland prior to the coming of the first Drummonds. However, if I am correct in connecting Moray with Moravians, couldn't the Ross clan, since after all it had been paired with Moray, have been connected to (or even founded by) Rus peoples in the Moravia region, namely, the adjacent land of Galicia, also called "Red Rus" after the Varangians?

I imagine that the progenitor of the Drummond clan, George, son of King Andrew and his Varangian wife, came to settle in the Ross clan, and for that reason it was later renamed, "Children of Andrew" (I don't believe for a minute that the clan, nor Scotland as a whole, was named after the Apostle Andrew, as claimed). Pre-tribulationism would later come from the Catholic Apostolic Church (not Roman-Catholic) -- of a powerful Drummond banker, Henry -- a cult of Illuminati color that sought to run Europe as a Christian-Israelite entity.

The Rus were pagan worshipers of Rod, and so I point out that Margaret's son (by Malcolm III), king David I, built a shrine unto his mother, called "Halyrod House" (now "Holyrood"), which I think was unto Rod. And that makes me suspect that Margaret's mother was from Rod, even the Ruthene-based Slavs known to have worshiped Rod. As Margaret's mother had made a Hungarian noble (Bartholomew, progenitor of the Leslie clan) her chamberlain, it possibly exposes Margaret's Hungarian blood. However, just as Andrew had married a Varangian princess, so Margaret's mother may have been the child of an Hungarian king and his Russian mate (not necessarily his wife).

There is also evidence that Khazars were in the Hungarian courts, as the Hungarian king prior to Andrew, Samuel Aba, was a Khazar. These European Khazars may then have become the gnostic Cathars of France (the good pals of the Templars), as some researchers connect the Cathars to Khazars.

The Hungarian kings had often married Polish wives, and Merovingians had been rooted in the Sicambrian Franks of Hungary, who were in turn from Poland (I do suspect that these were the origin of the Pollok-clan Merovingians). Therefore, when the Hungarians (after 10th century) began to marry Poles, I'll bet by best jar of killer-bee honey that they were connecting with what were previously the proto-Merovingians (in this way may Margaret have had some Pollok-Merovingian blood).

Hungarians were bees! For Old-English honey was "hunig," and other Germanic tribes had a similar term. It's a fact that Hungarians were in part from the On-Ogur Bolgs/Turks. That is, the Kabars (Khazar-Avars) that were a portion of the founders of Hungary were On-Ogurs; the other portion, the majority, were Magi/Magyar Huns (loyal to Attila's world-rule agenda), from whom king Andrew derived. It should also be said that the first Hungarians/Magyars moved into Avar territory (the Avars had previously ruled from proto-Hungary). I'm not yet ready to suggest that our "buzz" derives from the Buzi Medes who were closely associated with the Magi, but I'm leaning.

"On-Ogur" is said to mean "ten arrows" and therefore "ten tribes," but I don't trust the deductions of those who don't define names along mythological/ancestral lines, for mythology/ancestry was the light and life of paganism, and in fact "Bia" meant "life-force," as even Strong's Dictionary (#970) will disclose where it tells that "bia" is related to "bioo" (pronounced bee-o o, says Strong's), the latter meaning "life." But, says Strong's, "bia" means "violence" especially, wherefore the term "violence" itself would appear to stem from "bia." Our "violate" derives from the French "vis" (according to my dictionary), meaning "force" just like the Greek "bia." Therefore, "vis," as it must stem from the French "vie" and the Greek "bioo" (both mean "life"), I take it that the French bee, "abielle," derives from the idea of, not "life," but "force/violence."