Saddam Hussein's ghost may have arisen:
BAGHDAD (Reuters) -- The most senior member of former Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein's entourage still at large has urged Sunni Muslim anti-government protesters to stand their ground until Shi'ite Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki is toppled.Izzat Ibrahim al-Douri heads Saddam's Baath party...
...Over the past two weeks, tens of thousands of Sunnis, some waving Saddam-era flags, have staged demonstrations in a show of anger against Maliki...
"The people of Iraq and all its nationalist and Islamic forces support you until the realization of your just demands for the fall of the Safavid-Persian alliance," said Douri, addressing the protesters in footage broadcast on Alarabiya television.
...Surrounded by men in military uniform, Douri said the Baath party leadership was considering launching a campaign to "justly and decisively" punish civilians and soldiers who supported what he described as Iran's "Safavid project" for Iraq.
...Influential Shi'ite cleric Moqtada al-Sadr, a rival to Maliki who has voiced support for the Sunni rallies, said Douri and his followers were agents of the United States and Israel and urged protesters to denounce him.
...Douri, seldom seen since 2003...
...Iyad Allawi, the head of the Sunni-backed Iraqiya political bloc, on [January 5] called on Maliki to resign and for an interim government to be formed until early elections.
Something like the above was expected (by me) as per fulfilled prophecy in 2009-10 as per an erroneous 2009-16 calendar that I had entertained. When it didn't happen, a Sunni-Baathist uprising was expected for the first half of 2012 -- i.e. shortly after the American pull-out from Iraq at the end of 2011 -- to be followed by a Sunni-Baathist invasion of Syria. Although that expectation seems to be backward, the invasion of Syria by the anti-Christ is probably not in effect at this time. It's expected by me, anyway, yet in the future. It's very important to watch this Baathist development in Iraq at this time. It's not the time to close eyes to possible prophetic fulfillment, and revert to worldliness for losing heart and faith in the promise of Christ.
The two Palestinian factions are yet coming together as we speak, like two fighting brothers realizing how much they need each other to defeat Netanyahu. Obama must be dismayed at this time because Netanyahu looks to be headed for a second term. In Russia, it's not West-friendly, adorable Medvedev anymore. It's punchy Putin now.
Hillary's State Department has called on the Sunni to keep violence down during protests, but this in itself doesn't convince me that Obama opposes the protests. It may be very true that what we're seeing in Iraq at this time is identical in basis to what happened in Syria, a wave of false dissatisfaction intended to power-grab, predicted to be part of the Benghazi scandal wherewith Obama secured weapons for the Syrian rebels. There is a sense that Obama really doesn't have a winning strategy by pretending to be lame, as if he plays no part of the demonstrations. His effectiveness is diminished by such a strategy, and it's not working anyway because Putin can see right through him.
What I cannot understand is how Iran becomes a friend of Gog and the Sunni-Baathists in this situation. I can understand Iran and Russia together, but not Iran and the Baathists. The latter are throwing nuclear verbiage at Iran as we speak. If Putin decides to have a partnership chance with Douri whereas Putin doesn't see much hope in befriending the Sunni rebels in Syria, Putin may need to fake some opposition to Iran. I've seen Daniel 11:21-24 as telling us that Douri, or some other Baathist leader(s), will compromise with the religious Sunni for the purpose of taking Iraq back from the Shi'ites. I see the power won by the Shi'ites as a result of the army of George Bush in verse 22.
If I turn out to be wrong, there will be some re-vamping to do with the Iraq chapters. I don't speak as a prophet, but as one who thinks he's seen the realities behind the Daniel 11:21-24 statements. I assumed that the Al-Qaeda Sunni were the second force to be broken after Saddam Hussein, and that together they would both arise when Gog comes along to give them strength. What if the second force to be broken is Assad? Can we imagine the secular Baathists of Assad joined to the secular Baathists of Douri and both joined to Putin? Yes, I can. And Assad is very much an Iranian ally so that if Douri is not, Gog can yet go with Assad against Israel, and of course the Iranian organ, Hezbollah, is right there waiting for the green light. I never did say that Putin was Gog, however. Thankfully, we cannot announce that the prophecy is undergoing fulfillment until we see Gog successfully going against Egypt.
At this very time, the Egyptian secularists are bouncing back after falling to the Muslim Brotherhood. Will Gog come with military to Egypt as a secularist force, and in the meantime secure religious Muslims everywhere by promising them the destruction of Israel? I can't see Putin doing that while he courts the West. Something of a major tectonic shift dividing Putin from the West would need to take place before I could imagine Putin unleashed like that. And a willing O-farce seems to be triggering just such a quake under Putin's feet, thinking Putin won't notice it.
One of the things that Putin could do at this time to salvage Assad is to form a partnership with the Kurds for to support them in a war against the religious Sunny of northern Iraq, and with the Syrian rebels in Syria. It could take a lot of heat off of Assad. It behooves Putin, anyway, to form a pact with the Kurds, since it may be assumed that Putin wants Assad politically alive largely for Kurdish oil purposes in the first place. Putin's recent weapons pact with Maliki looks suddenly corpse-like. With Obama seemingly lifeless in Iraq, as even the Kurds have complained, the Kurds could very much deceive themselves by agreeing happily to form a pact with Russia, for the Kurdish government is very vulnerable at this time from plots on all sides; the best friend they now seem to have is, ironically and woefully, Turkey, their enemy until mere months ago.
With Obama happily tumbling down the fiscal cliff, and playing recreational president at the same time, Putin is seeing some new opportunities in Iraq, we can be sure. If Putin is behind the sudden rise of Douri, yikes, it indicates that he has chosen the Kurds over Maliki. If Putin could get the Douri people back in power in Iraq, Putin would feel entitled to share power there. If Obama has taught Putin anything, it's how to pretend having loyalties for one's enemy.
Douri is despised by the religious Sunni whom the Kurds are in mortal cold-war status with as we speak. It allows Douri to make an offer to the Kurds, for to seek the Iraqi throne together so that the religious Arabs -- the ones who want to take Kirkuk from the Kurds -- don't get it in this current thrust against Maliki. Douri has risen suddenly, from a state of political unconsciousness, to call out his supporters for to remove Maliki, but I can't imagine he's doing this merely to help the religious Sunny obtain power. It could be that Douri has arisen suddenly only because he has found a potential. What is that potential? Has he been nurturing it all along in his silence?
The last section of this update has a theory on Hillary's recent illness not being widely published in the United States.
There were many new ideas in the last update, including an understanding of the two waves of Hyksos to Greece, the first being the Apophis and Khyan waves. I almost hesitate to say it, lest people think I'm basing my credentials on it, but a dream-message played a key role in this understanding, identifying the second wave as that of the Meshwesh Libyans out of Tanis. The understanding is that Apophis lines went first to Argos -- as what is usually described with mythical Inachus, founder of Argos -- to set up shop as the Argos-river goddess, Io. She was mother to Epaphus in Euboea, who in turn gave birth to mythical Libya, the Meshwesh Libyans that is, whom Poseidon married in order to found such peoples from Tanis as Phoenicians and Pisidians; his Libyan wife became the Amazons at Pisa. The 600 "Danites" at Laish were a part of this wave, according both to the dream's message, and to sound reasoning. Moreover, the second wave tended to prove that Meshwesh were fundamental Hyksos. While the first wave to Argos was that of Samson Danaans, the second wave was that of the Danaans proper from Perseus to Mycenae. That is my new understanding.Near the end of the last update while putting out some quotes from an article on the Meshwesh Libyans, it came to my attention that they were fundamental to the Akhenaten cult, and that the Poseidon-Libya marriage was the Akhenaten cult. It was an extremely important discovery, but not only due to a trace of Poseidon to Akhenaten's god just previous to it. The last insert in the last update needs to be elaborated on here before going back to the Keturah investigation. Here's that insert:
The day after writing here, and after completing this entire update, it was found that a sister of Akhenaten was Nebet. She, or this find, had nothing to do with my trace of Poseidon exactly to Akhenaten's god. Nebet's older sister was Henuttaneb, smacking of "Heneti." I traced the Paphlagonian kin of the Heneti to Apophis, and it's exactly the Apophis line through mythical Epaphus that Poseidon married when he married Libya, daughter of Epaphus.Not far below, a Meshwesh-suspect Libyan peoples in Egypt are mentioned as "Tjehenu," looking link-able to "Tiye," the mother of the two sisters above. In fact, I found the two sisters only because the Tiye article was loaded to check her details as per possible links to "Tjehenu." Is it a coincidence that the latter term looks to be Tiye-Henu, smacking of the one sister, HENUttaneb." The quote below includes this: "Battle reliefs at Karnak from the reign of Seti I depict the king in combat with Libyan masses; however the text only describes the Libyans as being Tjehenu..." Yet a third sister of the two above was queen Sitamun (rooted in "Sit")
There are good reasons here to trace "Neptune" right back to the name of Akhenaten's sister. Although Nepet did not amount to some of the highest states, it is thought by some that she was the same as Beketaten, daughter possibly of Kiya, herself thought by some to have been king Tut's mother. I already have a string of heraldry points prepared in hopes of finding the evidence for a trace to this very Kiya, starting with the Key/Kay surname. It makes sense that heraldry should trace to a Kiya > Tut bloodline. I was convinced by Wikipedia's article on Kiya (Akhenaten's first wife) that she was Tut's mother. I'll try to have this at the start of the next update.
I hadn't yet looked at the article on Seti I, but having just loaded it, it turns out that he married Tuya, and gave birth to Tia. The names are suggestive of Tiye and her mother, Tjuyu, the latter term especially like the Libyan term, Tjehenu. It's suggesting that Seti traces to Akhenaten late in the 18th dynasty. As Seti was a king of the 19th dynasty, when the Tjenenu were already in Egypt and pressing for power, it may be that at least one of his parents was a Meshwesh.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seti_IThe fact that his name is also "Sethos" smacks of Zethus, the Theban king, husband of Aedon, the Atun cult in Greece! Amazing. The Poseidon wave was traced exactly to the Merops > Pandareus > Aedon line.
Seti's mother was Sitre, a term like "satyr, which is amazing in that the Keturah topics yet to be shared with you stress her trace to the Satrae Thracians. Sitre's other name is thought to be, Tia. Her husband, father of Seti, was ParaMESSU. Meshincidence? Paramessu changed hi name to RaMESSES, whose family operated partly out of Tanis, where the Meshwesh preferred to rule Egypt not long afterward.
[Insert -- There's a duck in the Sitre article, and then the Mecks/Meach's, using a duck as a primary symbol, can certainly trace to Messu / Messes terms. I'd guess that the Meck/Meach Chief is a version of the French Massey Chief, using the white-on-red crescents used by Tut-suspect Touts/Tuts and Tattons. The Tout - Tut topic is shortly below.]
There can be very little doubt that heraldry will trace to these royal families of Meshwesh. My first example will be on an old trace I made of the Says and related Seaton of Saytown to a Sestus location beside Dardanus in MYSIA, which was also beside Abydos. Seti's temple was in the Abydos location of Egypt, thus making a good connection to Mysia's Abydos, especially as I say Mysia was named by the arrival of these Meshwesh. You can even see that Tanis elements should be in "DarDanus," but don't miss possible relationship with the myth code, PanDAReus. It just so happens that in those times where I sought Say relations, I was tracing to a Sais location on the Sebannytos branch of the Nile Delta, and tended to include terms like "Said," i.e. like "Seti," which got the Sadler surname using the same upright lion colors (same design at this time) of the Masons/Masons! That's conspicuous where Seti has just become suspect with Meshwesh. The Says even use a quartered Shield in colors reversed to the quartered Massey/Macey Shield.
Is anyone getting the impression that mythical satyrs trace to Seti's family? If correct, it tends to support the trace of "satyr" to "KETURah" in that her line has been traced exactly to the Mitanni blood of the Atun cult of Akhenaten, and it just so happens that Kiya, Akhenaten's other wife, was a Mitanni. In fact, Kiya is the Mitanni element suspect in convincing Akhenaten to switch from Egyptian paganism to Atun's monotheism.
There are a couple of points to be made from the Said/Sadler motto, "Servire deo Sapere." First, it traces to Servitium with other motto terms that have proven to trace there, and Servitium was in the place where the Maezaei lived. It's suggesting that the Seti and Akhenaten Meshwesh trace to the Maezaei, no surprise. It's important here that the Maezaei lived off the Oeneus/Una river (named Juno), for Oeneus was made a mythical father of Methoni, and that place was traced in the last update to Keturah's son, Medan, the same son suspect in "Mitanni." I recall tracing (years ago) mythical Aigyptus, brother of Danaus, to Methoni. It looks like it was a correct trace.
Moreover, it appeared in the last update that the 600 "Benjamites" in the book of Judges, who were hiding out in Rimmon, were the proto-Romans. After my dream clinched the true nature of those Benjamites as Meshwesh, the trace to the Maezaei (beside the Jupiter-representing Japodes) seemed in evitable. The modern Rimmon is "Rammun," a term that can certainly trace to "Ramesses." Besides, I pegged the proto-Romans (years ago) from "Rimini," where Maschi's were first found. Then, my dream showed a "Masci" name on the execution papers.
Never mind the trace of Saids/Sadlers to the makers of saddles, and trace instead to Seti I, and/or his mother, Sitre. This update will stress the Satter surname (suspect with Catters from "Keturah") in what was written last week, at a time when Seti and Sitre were not yet topics.
If correct that Kiya traced to the Keys/Kays (will be investigated below), then that too was, in my opinion, a Maschi bloodline of the Mackay / Macey kind. But what is extremely important here is that I traced Caiaphas, a Sadducee suspect the lines of which are suspect in Sadler / Satter terms, was traced exactly to the Key/Kay surname out of Kaisariya, the ancient CAPPAadocian capital other wise called, Mazaca! In the last update, the Caiaphas surname was traced from its CAPPAdocian element to Cuppae (off the Margus / Pek rivers) thanks much to a dream-message ( a couple of years ago) from emailer Patterson, where she saw a blue lion named something like "Cappeo." The blue lion of Macclesfields, which was easily gleaned as her Cappeo loin, was traced (two updates ago for the first time) to the Cuppae location, but here we are seeing blue lions also in the Said/Sadler and Massin/Mason Coats! It's telling me that Sadducees trace to "Seti/Sethos," and indeed the father of Ananias (Caiaphas' father-in-law) was named, Seth!
Cuppae was in Moesia, what historians trace to Mysians, and what is therefore trace-able to the Meshwesh under discussion.
If that's not enough, the Sadducees in Jesus' day had a Boetus surname which I had traced to Boiotians, and it just so happens that Seti is now tracing hard to "Zethus," king of Thebes in Boiotia!
The second point concerning the motto of Saids/Sadlers is that it's "sapere" motto term can be for the Super bloodline, important where the Supers share an engrailed black-on-white saltire cross with Faithfuls/Feythfuls, who are accessed from the "faithful" motto term of the Keys/Kays.
This is being written on December 31, the day before the United States is said to go over the "fiscal cliff," a phrase from the so-called "SUPER COMMITTEE on the Fiscal Cliff." Not only was the Fisch bloodline linked without question to the Cliff surname a while back, but the engrailed Super cross is in the colors of the engrailed Sinclair cross while Sinclairs use a "COMMIT" motto term, meaning that the Fiscal Cliff looks like a pillaging scam from the Sinclair pirates who know that they are behind it. You understand that these globalists trace to Abraham and Keturah...but then the Fisch / Fisher bloodline is predicted to trace to the fish symbol of the Keturah > Kodros > Medon > Kotor bloodline to Cutters in the Masci theater of Saluzzo.
The Sinclairs were linked to Roman lines even before I learned that they ruled out of Romerike (Norway). The Conans (Khyan suspects) who use the engrailed Sinclair cross can thus link to pine CONE of the Rimini Maschi's, and in that way Sinclairs can trace back to the particular Egyptians under discussion...who must trace to Pandareus in Ephesus, important because there was a Clarus location beside Ephesus. And the brother of Medon above founded Ephesus, another reason for tracing Medan, Keturah's son, to the globalists, and moreover it's tracing the globalists back to the Mitanni-related Egyptians under discussion, exactly where Nichols de Vere, a satan lover of our times, traced his Vere bloodline. It just so happens that Veres and Masseys share the same Shield because they were related in Normandy, the piece of France ruled by Sinclairs...who are said in their write-up to be from Manche, where Veres and Masseys lived. (Cones and Conans are quite obviously Conte's/COMITES').
Nicholas de Vere is priest of Drakenberg, and then Drakes are said to be from "duck."
The idea is to check whether the Keys/Kays and their kin link to Tut-like surnames, thus proving that Keys/Kays were named after the Mitanni worshiper of Atun, queen Kiya. I can tell you already that Caiaphas should be named after the Kiya line. Trust me, I see too many "coincidences" all lining up like ducks. This is the direction that dreams from God have pointed me. I haven't missed my Calling, or if I did, this is my secondary Calling. As Keys/Kays are suspect with MacKays and related Maceys, note first that the gauntlet glove of Maceys is in the Cone Crest, for this traces Kiya to Rimmon's 600 "Benjamites" (= Meshwesh) in Judges along with the pine-cone Maschi's of Rimini.
First up in the Tut investigation are Tattons/TEYtons and Duttons (fret), both of whom use red and white quarters, probably related to the gold and red quarters of Says and Masseys because Tattons were called, "of Masci" or "of Massey." The TEYton variation reminds us that king Tut had Tiye as his grandmother. The Tatton/Tayton write-up: "First found in Cheshire [as with Masseys / Maceys] where they held a family seat from ancient times, and were Lords of the manor of Tatton, allied to the Barons Dunham and Massey." The Obama mouse is coming to mind.
Yes, the Wolfleys of Cheshire, a surname in Obama's genealogy, must surely link to Obama's Dunham bloodline at Dunham Massey, also called, Dunham Masci. It's telling us that Obama's DUNham line traces to the 600 "Danite" vagabonds at Laish, the ones whom my Masci dream (last update) said were Meshwesh liners to the Masci surname. Isn't that amazing, that the 600 vagabonds came to rule the United States, taking it to the fiscal cliff. What next? A brutal slaughter as the one in Laish?
Half of the Tatton crescents are in the colors of the one Tout/Tut crescent, and Rollo's use a "tout" motto term to indicate once again that the Sinclairs trace to king Tut and his Meshwesh line. Touts/Tuts were first found in Cheshire, co-founded by the Parisii now tracing to "Paramessu" and Parion in Mysia. Parion was also "Parium," which is how we can know that mythical Paris and his father, Priam, trace to that Muse-infested city, a city of Gorgons. One can therefore trace Paramessu = Ramesses to the Romans that Trojans founded. Yes, Aeneas, mythical founder of Romans, was a son of the Priam > Paris line of Trojans.
And while mythical king Hector was Paris' brother, the Arthurian character, mythical Ector, code for the Ector/Hector/Heckie surname, was the father of mythical Kat/Cai. Just like that, we can prove that Paramessu traces with Kiya to the Keys/Kays...but then Kiya (wife of Akhenaten) must have been almost directly related to the parents of Paramessu. As Kiya traces to Kaisariya in Cappadocia (not necessarily named after Caesar initially even though it became Caesarea too), and as Cappadocia traces to Cuppae off the Margus, it behooves us to consider Horemheb (a Horus liner), the Egyptian ruler immediately before Paramessu, for there is a Horreum Margi location on the Margus.
Horemheb's wife: "Some Egyptologists have speculated that Mutnedjemet is identical to Nefertiti's sister Mutbenret. This identification was partially based on the fact that Mutbenret's name used to be read as Mutnedjmet." If Horemheb's wife was Nefertiti's sister, then Horemheb links to the second wife (Nefertiti) of Akhenaten, and as the first wife (Kiya) was a Mitanni, note the MUT term in Horemheb's wife, then read from Nefertiti's article: "Nefertiti's parentage is not known with certainty...Scenes in the tombs of the nobles in Amarna mention the queen's sister who is named Mutbenret (previously read as Mutnodjemet). Another theory that gained some support identified Nefertiti with the Mitanni princess Tadukhipa." The Mitanni father of Tadukhipa was brother to a wife of Akhenaten's father, but afterward, Tadukhipa/Tadu-Hepa was herself married to Akhenaten's father (Amenhotep III).
Nefertiti's first daughter, MERITaten, suggests the Merit/Merey surname using three bends, the symbol of Ectors/Hectors. Shouldn't the sun in the Ector/Hector Coat thus be the Atun sun god? Aren't the Ectors/Hectors (blue lion in Crest) Keturah bloodliners?
As Merits/Mereys are suspect with Amorite lines, the Merops line of Atun should be in play. The MARITsa river, the migrational route to the Margus, looks very feasible here, especially as Poseidon traced in the last update to the Apsinthii at the mouth of the Maritsa (or Hebros). The proto-Roman Aenus was a location at the mouth of the Maritsa. The heraldic nebully symbol, suspect with mythical NEPHELe that should trace to "NEFertiti, is used by Amore's (motto traces to Tunis) and Marina's, as well as by Time's/Timms (use the Melusine Siren of the Massins/Masons) that trace to Timna elements, even as I traced Horeum Margi and other Margus entities to Timna. I can now show that the same nebully symbol appears around the solid red chevron of the other Key Surname, first found in the same place (Yorkshire) as Tout/Tuts!!! That is your clincher for a trace of Keys/Kays to Kiya, mother of king Tut. The Tie's/Dye's were also first found in Yorkshire.
There are Edomic overtones also in the mottoes of the Massin/Mason and Key surnames, and then while Timna married Eliphas, the Oliphants use a "tout" motto term, suggesting the possibility of a trace of king Tut to Timna and Eliphas. If we start to doubt it by proposing a trace to Tut backwards, from some kin of Oliphants, the fact that Oliphants use crescents in the color of the Tout/Tut crescent could suggest that Eliphas linked much more directly to Tut than a backward trace from Oliphant kin. The great news is that the new French Massey Coat shows crescents in the same colors, and Masseys definitely trace to the mother of Tut. One wonders whether this crescent wasn't a symbol of Tut himself.
At this point, the recent discovery of the Margus river as per the Margy/MacKIE/MacKEY and Margeson/Mackesy surnames (using the same lion design because design matters) comes into play. You see, the Margus was important because it now traces to Kiya. I had no idea of Kiya when the Margus was introduced a couple of updates ago. Ravens are shared by Margys/Mackie's/Mackeys and by Beckets and Tate's, no coincidence because Beckets were looked up as per Beketaten, thought to be the daughter of Kiya, mother of Tut. Now you know, and Beckets even use a solid red chevron, the color of the solid chevron of Keys.
I recall tracing the bee theme in the Becket write-up to Meschins of the Bessin, especially as the Becket lions are in the colors of the lion of Ranulph le Meschin at his Wikipedia article. Beckets were first found in the same place (Norfolk) as engrailed Faithfuls, who are in turn honored in the motto of the other English Keys/Kays. Now you know for certain that Beckets trace to Kiya's daughter, and that Keys are in honor of "Kiya."
It also means that the Arthurian "holy grail," steeped in the Ector > Kay characters, was from Egypt, not from Mary Magdalene. I had traced the Mary part of "Mary Magdalene" long ago to Merits/Mereys, now tracing to "Meritaten," of the same Akhenaten family, by marriage, as the Kiya family.
Ranulph le Meschin descended from Hugh D'Avrances Lupus, where the blue-on-white wolf in the Wolfley Coat must trace because Hugh's wolf was white on blue, fully expected to be converted by kin to a wolf in colors reversed. The white portions of the Wolfley Coat are called "flaunches" in some Coats (e.g. Nobels), and they are used by Hewers too, you see. It crossed my mind in the last update that the name of Yuya (Akhenaten's father-in-law) could be found in a Hugo term / surname, and it recalled the Melusine Siren of the Hugo Coat. But Hugh d'Avrances is now tracing to the Yuya family in that he descended from Conteville's, the family honored in the "commit" motto term of Sinclairs who use a version of the engrailed cross of Faithfuls.
The Hewers are expected to trace to Hugh D'Avrances, and then the Hugh surname (in Hewer colors) happens to use a motto term, "Kymmer," a term that I've traced in the past to Chemmites from Khemmis, the city of Yuya. Hughincidence? As we have already traced these Egyptians to Rimini, and as the pine cone of Rimini's Masci's already traced to the Conte-related Cones (both use three antlers in black-white), I can now trace the Hugo Siren to the Sire/Siron surname traced very recently to Ravenna beside Rimini. The Margy/Mackey raven traced to this place, you see, but then in the Hugo write-up we find a "Hugo de Raveshot of Flanders."
The German Rave's/Rabe's use a raven. From the 4th update of last month: "The German Dell bend shows ravens that can get us to Sadducee liners in Ravenna. Note how that place smacks of "rabbi." There is a raven, and black boars, in the Rabine/Raben Coat (see also Ravine/Raven), and Esau -- depicted by black boars anciently -- does trace to the Sire/Siron line in Ravenna." The Sirons had traced (see 3rd update of last month too) to Vilnius, itself from the Ville's that Conte's/Comite's linked up with to form the Contevilles. But months earlier, Wolfleys were trace to a Vilnius-related term. Vilnius had the bloodline expected to put out the 666.
To now prove that Hugo's of RaveSHOT trace to the Sire's/Sirons, which itself proves that the mythical Siren is code for the Sire's/Sirons, the Shot/Shute Coat uses three swords in the white-on-red colors of the three Serena swords! One can go back to the updates in the last paragraph to see that Sire's/Sirens were linked to Serena's for the purpose of a cousin of a certain Serena from Ravenna.
It just so happens that the Serena sword design -- in the same colors to boot, gold handle and all -- is the Dunn sword!!! This is important where Hugh D'Avrances ruled Dunham Masci, place where Wolfleys and Obama's Dunham bloodline traces. In other words, Hugh D'Avrances really does trace to Yuya, and his Atun-related Mitanni trace to the 600 "Danites" = Meshwesh...that my dream of two or three days ago said were proto-Masci's!!! Isn't that something?
The Dunn Crest of the Dunns above even use a KEY!!! It's gold, the color of the Key keys. As Avrances (Normandy) likely traces to neighboring Evreux, which traces to the Abreu/Abruzzo surname, note that keys are used by the Italian Sheaves/CHIAPPoni surname (first found in Abruzzo, not far from Ravenna / Rimini) that I've traced to "Caiaphas" and to the SHAYs/Shaws/Sheaves with "Vincit qui" motto phrase (the ermined black chevron of Shaws is likely link-able to the ermined black Shield of key-using Keys). It's more important now because the "Sithech" term to which Shaws are traced can go to king Seti/Sethos, who traced to Ananias' father, Seth, who happened to live in Syria, where Sire's/Sirons/Syre's (castle in Abreu-castle colors) may trace too.
King Seti/Sethos was no doubt named after Set(h), the Hyksos god. It can help to prove that Akhenaten was named after Khyan. Set(h) was also, "Sutekh," a term much like the "Sithech" that Shaws are said to derive in. We may even ask whether "Kiya" was named after a Khyan-like term.
It just so happens that ermines on black are used by English Ammons (antlers in Crest should those of the Maschi-related Cones / Conte's), and that the Ammon stars are in the colors of the Tie/Dye stars. It reminds me of the Deas surname that I link to Mus lines in MUSkerry. It all works for Masci's of Dunham Masci were ruled by HAMON de Masci. Dutch Tie's/Thys use a wolf in colors reversed to the Wolf/Welf wolves belonging to Cheshire's Hugh D'Avrances. The Germo-Swiss Ammons even use a Siren in Crest to show that they are named in honor of Hamon de Masci, or vice versa. English Ammons and Massins/Masons (another Siren) were both first found in Kent. Therefore, the Tie surnames should trace to elements of queen Tiye, mother of Akhenaten and daughter of Yuya...meaning that it looks even better now for a trace of "Yuya" to HUGH D'Avrances. Yesterday, I even came across a Huya, the steward of queen Tiye.
I had the sense years ago that Yuya was a Gog tracing to Gugu/Gyges, quasi-mythical king of Lydians. That could get his line to Latins and Romans easily, especially as I traced Gugu's father, DASCYLUS, to TUSCULUS, on the Latin-Etruscan border. The Hugh motto, "Kymmer-yn Lydeirnon," could just be for Lydian elements, but also for CIMMERians, and it just so happens that there was a certain tribe of Gug-Cimmerians. It's known that Cimmerians in the late time of Gugu (dated just after 700 BC), conquered much of Anatolia, even into Lydia. The trick then is to discover how the Atun bloodline from Yuya became the Cimmerians of Anatolia:
After their exodus from the Pontic steppe the Cimmerians probably assaulted Urartu (Armenia) about 714 bc, but in 705, after being repulsed by Sargon II of Assyria, they turned towards Anatolia and in 696-695 conquered Phrygia. In 652, after taking Sardis, the capital of Lydia, they reached the height of power. Ezekiel wrote shortly after about Gog and Gomer.On Gugu:
Gyges, named Gugu of Luddu in Assyrian inscriptions (687-652 BC or 690-657 BC)...Gyges was the son of Dascylus, who, when recalled from banishment in Cappadocia by the Lydian king Mursylos -- called Candaules "the Dog-strangler" (a title of the Lydian Hermes) by the Greeks -- sent his son back to Lydia instead of himself...Some Bible scholars believe that Gyges of Lydia was the Biblical character Gog, ruler of Magog, who is mentioned by the Book of Ezekiel and the Book of Revelation.Dascylus was from Cappadocia? How about that. Isn't that where Kiya should trace, where Mazaca was located that must have been Ezekiel's Meshech and Tubal? It's known that Tubal had an empire smack at Cappadocia. Therefore, it looks good for a Yuya-family trace to Cappadocia. The royal line of Gugu previous to him was known to be a Mysian one too, said to be from Hercules.
The Melusine Siren in the Massin/Mason Crest suggests that the Maschi's of Rimini were involved here. Mythical Melusine (known to be of LUSIGnan) traces to the Speers, very evident in the Massin/Mason motto, and as Speers were from the Spree river in Lusatia/LUZICa, the Laish Meshwesh are tracing hereby to the LUSatia and LUSignan entities. Moreover, Speers and Sprees both use crescents resembling the Tatton crescents. On top of that, the Duttons were shown using the Tatton crescents suggesting strongly that the DUDleys are also a king Tut bloodline in that they use the same lion, colors included, of the Massins/Masons (and Said's/Sadlers).
This is a good place to add that the "VINCit" motto term, which traced recently to the Valentinian bloodline in VINKovci, is used by Eaton who come up as "Aten." As the Keys trace to AkhenATEN's wife, it's clear that Eatons, who are Samson relatives, and therefore Meschin relatives, trace to the Atun sun god. And the da-Vinci cult was traced more recently to the Margus river. Plus, the Serena above was wife to Stilicho (traced to Astika's of Vilnius), a general of the Byzantine emperor (Theodosius I) who was link-able to the Valentinian bloodline out of Vinkovci.
As all of Masonry, it seemed, traced to the Valentinian bloodline, one can expect that his imperial line goes back to the Egyptian royals under discussion tracing to the proto-Romans. From the last update, while in the midst of tracing "Neptune" to "Nepet" in Italy, the Caenis term was found, whereafter it was said: "If I'm seeing the Caenis article correctly, she was a Flavia bloodliner. A Flavian patriarch was Titus Flavius Sabinus, clearly a Sabine bloodline from the Titus Tatius cult of Sabines." It just so happens that Valentinian was from the Flavian line, from Vespasian, in fact, who founded the Flavian dynasty. In the last update, the story of the 600 "Benjamites" of Rimmon getting 400 wives from Jabesh traced to the early Romans acquiring their wives from Sabines. Poseidon had married a mythical Caenis, and here we are finding that while Poseidon was the Akhenaten cult, there was a Nepet, sister of Akhenaten. It looks like Poseidon's Atun cult linked squarely to the Vespasian bloodline: "Caenis, a former slave and secretary of Antonia Minor (mother of the emperor Claudius), was the mistress [a wife, really] of the Roman emperor Vespasian..."
The Caen surname (Traby ostrich feathers) may apply, using a "PeriMUS" motto term that can jibe with pharaoh ParaMESSU. It looks good and may prove me wrong for tracing "Khyan" to the Caeni near the Apsinthii. It may be that Caen terms trace instead to "AKHENaten." It just so happens that the Astika's of Vilnius were squarely merged with Trabys.
Earlier in this update, it was concluded: "Just like that, we can prove that Paramessu traces with Kiya to the Keys/Kays...but then Kiya (wife of Akhenaten) must have been almost directly related to the parents of Paramessu " (he was Seti's father). At that point, only the predecessor (Horemheb) of Paramessu was mentioned. The latter's mother is apparently unknown, but his father was another Seti (not a king), of the 18th dynasty and therefore close to the years of Akhenaten and Kiya. "Seti, the forefather of the 19th dynasty was from a military family in the Delta. According to one theory he is identical with a royal envoy mentioned in the Amarna letters as Shuta. His brother Khaemwaset [Chemmite?] is probably identical with the Royal Fanbearer and Chief of the Bowmen of Kush Khaemwaset..." SHUTA? I kid you not, I had not yet seen this when presenting the Shot/Shute surname above.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seti_%28commander%29Unfortunately, it doesn't tell where in the Nile delta Seti was from. As it was the Hugo's that were from RaveSHOT, and as they then linked well with the Shots/Shute's, who were found as a branch of Serena's who in turn use the Dunn sword, it could just be that Seti was from Tanis in particular.
It seems clear now that I have a confession to make. The "Sithech" term in the Shaw write-up traces to Seti, which makes it appear that I was wrong in tracing it to "SADDUCee." However, thankfully, Kiya is tracing to Kaisariya and all the entities (including Boiotia) to which I traced Sadducees. As "Sithech" is said to mean "wolf," though I don't believe it, it tends to trace to a wolf entity that the heraldic people knew of, and so I would suggest the Avvites that I see Hyksos merging with. There is reason to assume here that the Set(h) god worshipped by Hyksos proper had merged with a wolf line.
"RAMESses," Paramessu's new name, should trace to the Ram/Rames surname for multiple reasons. One, it uses the same chevron as Maceys, in colors reversed to the Tay/Teye chevron, and then both Tays and Rams/Rames' were first found in the same place (Essex). Vere's with the Massey/Macey Shield also were first found in Essex, as were lines (e.g. the Coles and Gores) from the Colapis river (of the Japodes) at Servitium, beside the Maezaei. The "quod" motto term of Rams/Rames' can be deemed as code for the Quoids, a branch of Mackays and therefore of Maceys. Quoids/Quids/Wade's use the wolf design of Welfs/Wolfs.
Essex is also where the Pek surname was first found that traced (with Peckers/Packers) to the Pek river, location of Cuppae. As I write here, much of this update is already written, where LEADERs are mentioned time and again at the Pek-mouth theater. Did you happen to notice the other motto term of Hugh's aside from the one looking like the Gug-Cimmerians? It's "LYDEIRnon." As the Yuya family (Mitanni) must trace to Cuppae through the Cappadocia line through Kiya (Mitanni), isn't conspicuous that LEDERata is just a giant's horseshoe toss from Cuppae? Peckers/Packers are the ones using the Macclesfield cross, I suspect, and the Arms of Macclesfield motto, "copia," is for Cuppae.
Kilpatricks use "Laidir," as well as a "make" motto term that was linked already to Maxwells/Makeswells, a surname like "Maccle." Kilpatricks were traced to the Roman line of Patricians that placed the dragon-line Caesars in world power. The Julian surname even uses the same saltire colors as Maxwells and Kilpatricks, the saltire colors of Latins/Lattins and Key-related Faithfuls. The idea here is that the Akhenaten and/or Seti royals trace to Patricians and thus act as the root of the Ladon cult. It was established in the last update or two that Daphne, daughter of Ladon, was at Cuppae, city of doves. I had tended to trace Daphne to Tubal. With Sirens tracing potentially to Seir-ians, the trace I make of the Ladon dragon back to Lotan of Seir is jibing here with the Egyptian bloodlines under review tracing to heraldic Sirens and even to the Sire/Siron surname.
Leaders were first found in the same place (Durham, previously DUNholme) as English Merits (cross in Latin/Lattin-cross colors). Although the white bird in the Merit Crest is called an eagle, it's identical to the white griffin in the Key Crest. Both birds have something in their mouths. The fact that Latins (and Saids/Sadlers) were first found in Wiltshire, where Yorks -- "cupius" motto term -- were first found, has the ability to trace Latins, as expected from considerations above, to Cuppae.
As the Ken Coat (six crescents) uses the same-colored chevron as the Eden chevron, it could conceivably trace both surnames to "Akhen-Aten," It may mean that Kenneths trace to "Ahken" too. It recalls my trace of "Kenneth" to "Heneti," and then Akhenaten's sister, Henuttaneb, looks like she should be the founder of the Heneti. Queen Henutmire, a daughter of Seti I, may also apply. She was wife to Ramesses II, whose other wife was Nebettawy, smacking of Nebet, daughter of Akhenaten and sister of Henuttaneb. the latter suspect as a daughter of Kiya. I don't see any particular heraldic evidence for a trace of either Kenneth Coats to "Akhen," but the Kens are already Eden suspect.
Of interest here is that the black-on-gold scallops of the Edens can link to the scallops of the Leaders and Ladds/Ladons who traced to Keturah's lines at Lederata, not far from Cuppae where Kiya must. But even if the Eden scallops do not link to the surname's above, they certainly link to the same-colored scallops of Hykes'/Hacks, for the latter share both a black-and-white quartered shield and a split-colored cross with Atens/Eatons. As the latter used (until recently) the same cross design as the previous Samson cross design, it's evident that Atens/Eatons link to the Meschin scallops, and it just so happens that Leaders and Ladds/Ladons use the Meschin Shield in colors reversed. This paragraph has both the first wave of Hyksos to Greece, and the second wave as per the Tanis Meshwesh through Laish and then to mythical Laius at Thebes/Boiotia, home of the Aedon-branch Atun cult.
The Eden motto term, "sit," seems like obvious code for Seti lines. The arm in the Eden Crest has the same design look as the one in the Tate/Tayt Crest. Then, the Welfs/Wolfs, traced in their write-up to Hugh D'Avrances, use the same-colored chevrons as Edens (and Kens), as well as the wolves in colors reversed from the Dutch Tie/Tye/Thye wolf.
Good morning, it's January 1, 2013. Will the 666 come out this year? I doubt it. The month of January was named after the Roman god, Janus," a term like "Yanassi," the son of Khyan who did not make it to the throne. Instead, Apophis took over. As I awoke, the following on the Apophis line was on my mind.
I realized that Apophis was the Apollo wolf line this morning. When I linked Hyksos to Avvites, the reason had not to do with Apollo even though I had traced Apollo to Avvites years before. As we saw that Apophis lines were in the Io white cow as it birthed Epaphus the Apis bull of Egypt, whom in turn birthed Libya = the Meshwesh in Cyrene (side of Libya closest to Egypt), so Apollo was said to give birth to that very Libyan Cyrene. In fact, I had traced mythical Cyrene to Cyprus, where Aphrodite was born whom I view as the Hyksos en route to the Heneti PAPHlagonians. As Aphrodite was born in PAPHOS of Cyprus, one can conclude that APOPHIS named Paphos and later the Paphlagonians. This had nothing at all to do with the day when I saw "APOLLYON," the Greek spelling of Apollo found also in Revelation 9, as a P-less version of "PAPHLAGON(ia)." It could give the impression that "Apollo" was a term born from Paphlagonians, which again tends to identify him as an Apophis line. This is excellent for tracing Apophis lines to various Apollo entities.
The mythical Cyrene that was found in north-central Cyprus (I always forget the details) was beside Lapithos, where we can expect Ixion, a Lapith king. That in itself traces Khyan to Lapithos, thus showing that Apophis and Khyan lines moved together. And Hyksos were also at nearby Kizzuwatna. One easily sees that Hyksos had something to do with what became Cappadocia, where the Apophis line to the Meshwesh Libyans would later settle, if correct to trace Kiya to Kaisariya = Mazaca.
Follow this because it's important as per the Caiaphas line out of Cuppae and Cappadocia. As Apollo was identified (by me lonely) as an Avvite people, I traced him to Tartus, which Wikipedia claims to be a term from "Arados" with a capital 'T', meaning that the peoples of Arados, offshore of Tartus, founded and named Tartus. I therefore assumed that the Avvite donkey god, Tartak, was a hard-c version of "Tartus," wherefore it appeared that Arados, originally "Arvad/Arpad," was an Avvite settlement. Ixion ended up in Tartarus. That works. Tantalus ended up in Tartarus too, and he was the Heneti line, ruler of Eneti. It works. The son of Tantalus married Hippodamia = the Meshwesh Libyans (see last update for details) circled round back to Greece at that time. Both Ixion and Hippodamia's family had a wheel symbol, and Hippodamia was named after "ippo" = horse. We get it.
A reading of the Tantalus article below starts to show that he was the same line as donkey-eared king Midas of Phrygia, which Wikipedia suggests to have been named after an historical king Mita, from the Mushki = Meshech. However, Midas may have been named after whatever Mita was named after. The Mitanni? The Yuya line to Lydian Gugu? It works well, does it not? It Ezekiel's Gog, is it not, from both Apophis and his later Meshwesh wave to Pelops' wife.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TantalusIn the article above, Tantalus is said to have had a wife, Clytia, the name of a daughter of Pandareus, thus linking Tantalus to the Poseidon line from Merops through to Aedon of Thebes. It works because Poseidon, husband of Kleito, traces to the same city, Antalya, as "Tantalus." It's telling us that Tantalus traces back to Tartus' Avvites, and so note that while "Arados" is a T-less Tartus, "Antalya" is a T-less Tantalus. The donkey ears of Midas were given by Apollo, who was from Tartus. It's hard to find online, but Tantalus was ruler over Eneti in Lydia, as was Pelops. It's telling us that Tantalus was an Apophis > Apollo line out of Tartus, and merged with Meshwesh Libyans (i.e. Poseidon) coming through Cappadocia/Mazaca as the Mitanni family of Yuya, Tiye, Kiya, etc., to form the Gugu Lydians.
When we get to Revelation, we find the Gog of Lydia above, from Yuya I will assume, as the anti-Christ with a seven-headed Roman empire (i.e. the Lotan > Ladon Lydians) under his belt. And we find Apollo destroying the 666 armies of the anti-Christ in the 5th Trumpet, which event, looking like the aftermath of as nuclear explosion, I place almost immediately before the end of the 1260 days of Israel's great tribulation. The line of Seti I and Kiya to Cappadocia looks to be in the camp of the anti-Christ, meaning that the Caiaphas / Ananias lines are in that camp too. I have no idea what this might mean as per the future realities, but it all appears logical because we can expect the ghosts of Caiaphas and Ananias to die painfully at Armageddon as part of the Vengeance is Mine.
End-time prophecy:
Now this will be the plague with which the Lord will strike all the peoples who have gone to war against Jerusalem; their flesh will rot [disappear, I take it] while they stand on their feet, and their eyes will rot in their sockets, and their tongue will rot in their mouth [what false prophet would predict that in hopes of becoming famous at the fulfillment?].It will come about in that day that a great panic from the Lord will fall on them; and they will seize one another's hand, and the hand of one will be lifted against the hand of another.
(Zechariah 14:12-13)The trace of Arados/Arpad to Arad in Romania, and to the nearby Carpae Thracians as they produced Hungarian Arpads, is a necessary ingredient in the Cuppae topic. As was shown, Cuppae was near Almus, a term like Olmos, the mythical father of Arpad the proto-Hungarian. The Arpads were the pagan grail that I see in the hand of the Roman harlot of Revelation 17, the one who rides the back of the Ladon dragon, and so let me tell you that I did not find the Almus location until late last month, long after I had traced the grail of the Arpads and of Revelation to the filthy cup of the Israeli chief priests that Jesus spoke about. By what coincidence does Caiaphas trace to Cuppae, so near to Almus?
Another reason for tracing Apollo and the Hyksos to Arados is his lyre / harp symbol adopted by mythical Orpheus, grandson of CHAROPs way up the Hebros theater, the representation of the Carpae Thracians. The lyre of Orpheus, and his head, floated down the Hebros to Lesbos, where there is a Lapithos-like location betraying that Lesbos was a settlement of the Hyksos. And the fact that Charops was way up that river as the Carpae begins to identify him with Cuppae, which place was traced to Cappadocians. It simply means that Hyksos was at Cuppae, as will be shown later in the update when traced to the Pek river flowing near Cuppae.
While CappaDOCIA appears named after a Doc-like term, Cuppae is on the DACian frontier. Therefore, the Duke's/DOOKs were traced to Cuppae's Cappadocian elements for the second reason of their showing a version of the Ottone Coat (from PERUSia) which is itself a version of the CHAPPES Coat. And yesterday (while visiting the 4th update of June, 2000), I found the Leiter Coat just after discussing the "laidir" motto term above. It floored me to see that the Leiter Coat uses the very same curved and long chevron (different colors) as the Ottone Coat! Both have blue Shields.
It floored me because LEDERata is near Cuppae and expected to be part with it. I traced Lederata (opposite the river from Dacia) to Leda, the mother of the Spartan Apollo, you see, but that trace was made late last month, years after I had already identified far-north Apollo as both Gog and the Dacians! That exclamation mark is for the trace now of Yuya's family first to Cappadocians, then to the Lydian Gog, then to Cuppae. Again, Cappadocia was home to Tubal and Meshech (I showed a map recently with Tubal stamped on the northern limits of Cilicia).
Here's from the Leiter write-up: "First found in Bavaria. The first recorded instance of this surname occurs in the 'Geschichte des Hauses Habsburg" (History of the House of Habsburg) where a Stephan Leyttner is listed in 1376." The red-on-gold lion on the Leiter Coat is therefore the same-colored Habsburg-Coat lion. BUT NOW, as the Habsburgs were traced several months ago to the Abbs/Apps, who smack of Avvites or even of Abas elements, it can be repeated that the white-on-red scallops of the Abbs/Apps are used by the Capes'! It tends to prove that Leiters, Ottone's and Chappes' were from Lederata and Cuppae.
BUT WAIT. As Ottones are suspect with the VISconti's, can we trace the Vis term to Lederata? Yes, for I traced Visconti's to the WIShart variation of Guiscards, who use three piles, the symbol of LATTERs/Latto's/Laithis'! It recalls the trace of Pontius Pilate lines to the Lederata theater for more reasons that the Latter piles. This is the Keturah line out of Methoni and Pylos, highly suspect with Keturah's descendants, the Letushites.
Wikipedia had a painting of the Guiscard brothers of Sicily (traces to scallops, the Capes' symbol) with lattice on one of their pieces of clothing, and so note similarity between "lattice" and LETUSHite. There is a Lattice/Lettice surname in Abbs/Apps and Capes' colors. The Apps/Abbs chevron was traced to the same-colored one of Caiaphas-suspect Coverts/Cofferts, first found in the same place as Herod-liner Coppers/Coppers...and Deins / Diens / Dans / Danners who should trace to "Danube," where Lederata is found.
I've just entered "Dack" to check for links to Dacians, and there were lion heads in the colors of the Leiter / Habsburg lion. MOREOVER FANTASTIC, they are the same lion heads, in the same colors, as used by Beckets, first found in the same place (Norfolk) as Dacks/Ducks above!! Beckets traced without question to Beketaten, thought to be a daughter of Kiya (!) and therefore a sister of king Tut.
German Dacks/Taks even use swords in the colors of the Shot/Shute swords (colors are those of Abbs/Apps and Capes again), which were seen above to be versions of the Serena and Dunn swords. In fact, I traced the Shots/Shute's (many months ago) to the sling SHOT in the Arms of DACHau...in Bavaria, where the Habsburg-related Leiters were first found!!! If you've forgotten, "Shuta" was suggested by historians to be the same person as Seti, patriarch of the 19th Egyptian dynasty starting with Ramesses and Set I. The RaveSHOT location that introduced the Shots/Shute's into this update was that of Hugo's, suspect from "Yuya." The Hugo's use the Siren symbol, and then Serena's were just traced to Sire's/Sirons a couple of updates ago.
I had independently traced the Coffert variation of Coverts to Nazi's in conjunction with concentration-camp headquarters in Dachau, which ran the concentration camp at Kaufering. As was reported in those discussions, the Arms of Kaufering uses an upright red lion trace-able to the Habsburg lion, now found in the Leiter Coat...thus tracing Coverts to Lederata and therefore very very likely to Cuppae! Trust me on this.
The Kauffer entity of Coverts was traced to Hof elements in the Duffs of the same area in Scotland as the Feys to which Duffs had linked (especially the Fie's/Feys/Duffie's/Cuffie's). It brings to mind the FAYthful variation of Faithfuls honored in the Key/Kay motto, meaning that Feys / Fays are now tracing to Kiya. The point was, Faith-like terms link to "fidelity" or "fide" heraldry terms, all tracing to the Foots and related Fothes'/Fiddes' out of Foetes/Fussen, in the area of Bavaria where Kaufering is found. Thus, Kiya traces to the Kauffering area by that method, even as she was seen tracing above to Dachau.
Should BECKets trace to the Pek river? This German Beck Crest shares a raven with Beckets. It just so happens that Pecks/Peks (in English Beck colors) use a chevron in colors reversed to the Lattice/Lettice chevron, and then both surnames were first found in Essex. For me, that in conjunction with the Guiscard lattice symbol traces Lattice's/Lettice's to Lederata, but then the Caens use a lattice symbol (called "fretty"). As I'm going to trace "Pek" to "Apachnas," by what coincidence do Caens smack of his alternative name, Khyan?
There was a brief mention of a Mormon trace to the Amorite-suspect Margus river in the last update, where "Lederata" (near mouth of the Margus) was traced to "LATTER Day Saints" that I say is code for three surnames. Glenn Beck is a Mormon.
Were Nazi's from Keturah, therefore? Can the Peck/Pek cross type (a pattee) be one of the Nazi symbols? "The Cross Pattee gets the majority of its bad press from being associated with Hitler and Nazi Germany. Hitler used a black Cross Pattee in conjunction with the swastika..." YS remarked that the black cross pattee in the Punt/Ponde/Ponter Coat was the Nazi cross, and then the Punts/Ponde's/Ponters even show the black boar.
http://www.feargod.com/hats/maltese.htmTo trace the Mitanni family of the Akhenaten cult still better to Lederata / Cuppae, see the Backer Coat's three bends, the French Merit symbol, then read what was said above: "Leaders were first found in the same place...as English Merits...Although the white bird in the Merit Crest is called an eagle, it's identical to the white griffin in the Key Crest." Meritaten was a daughter of Nefertiti, second wife of Akhenaten after Kiya, and my first inkling of trace to Cappadocia of this Mitanni family was as per Kiya. Just like that, Backers trace to that family, suggesting that the family traces to the Pek river too...along with Peckers/Packers too. See the Pecker discussion below.
But the three Backer bends are in the colors of the three bends of Hectors (Cappeo lion in Crest?) that I see reflected in Hiedler/Hitler Coat because both Coats use the sun. It started becoming apparent above that the Hector sun was the Atun sun god. Hiedlers/Hitlers were first found in Munich, smack beside Dachau where suspected Dacian = Cappadocian lines have just traced!
It was Dacks who use the Becket lion heads, and to show why Dacks should be from Dacians in Cuppae, the Teck/Tess Coat is the Annandale saltire in colors reversed, and moreover the Teck/Tess leaves have got to be code for the Laevi living on the Tessen/Ticino river. Thanks to the new info here on Dacks, we have just traced Ananias and his Laevi / Sadducee lines to Cuppae, as expected. But there is more, for I've just learned that the eagle in the Guiscard/Wishart Crest is in the Tack/Thakery Crest ("NOBILitas" motto term). Guiscards linked shortly above to the Chappes-related Ottones and Duke's/Dooks. (It turns out that Payens/PAGans will trace to the Pek river, a prime representative of which married Chappes'.)
Therefore, if correct to trace Dacians and Duke's/Dooks to "CappaDOCia," it indeed traces Caiaphas and/or Ananias there. More and more now, it becomes obvious that Keturah was the mother of all the big-time fiends, Nazi's and killers of Jesus included.
The last couple of updates started to traced Daphne to the Cuppae location, city of doves. I can now trace the surnames above to the Syrian city of Daphne, also called HARBiye, where I traced GAREBites partly because mount Saphon, where I trace "Daphne," is now called, Aqra, a term that I trace to mount Acra at Jerusalem, near Gareb. As the Daphne line was the Hyksos line, we can thus trace Hyksos to Cuppae, jibing with my trace of "Apachnas" to its Pek river. Garebites are expected off the Amorite-suspect Margus.
The HARBiye topic started in my mind just moments ago with the GARBs and the Gareb-like "Cherib" in the Tack/Thackary Coat and Crest. I loaded the Garveys before seeing the Harveys to find the pattee cross in colors reversed to the pattee cross of Peks. Amazingly "lucky," or just simply correct to trace Peks to Harbiye/Daphne. English Harveys were then loaded to find a black boar, symbol of Punts/Ponde's who use a black pattee cross suspect with the iron cross of Nazi's. Harveys were first found in the same place (Norfolk) as Dacks, Dack-related Beckets, and Key-related Faithfuls. French Harveys, in the colors of English Harveys, were even first found in the same place (Paris) as Chappes' and Levi's. French Harveys appear to use a version of the Garber Coat (garbs).
Reminder: the Punts/Ponde's were accessed by YS from the motto of the Sandys (last update), who were found to be a branch of Cravens = Croatians = KRVati = Garebites. The Sandys link easily to Santones to whom I trace the Mormon term from "Latter Day Saints." It can suggest that the Latters from Lederata should link to the Santones of their French city, Saintes, or even trace Santones / Sintians to the Lederata theater, important now because the Punt symbols are tracing Punts to the Pek river. German Sanders use both "plates" and the colors of the Latter "piles," two heraldic terms that together suggest PONTius Pilate. Coincidence? I don't think so. And it doesn't necessarily spoil a trace of Punts to the Pontus just because they trace to "Pontius." The Pilate bloodline of the Roman governor may have been related to Pontus elements, thus explaining the governor's first name. But why is Pontius Pilate tracing to the same area as the other killers of Jesus are tracing, where even the Nazis now seem to be tracing?
Assuming that the Punts/Ponde's trace back to the Pontus, where the Poseidon-rooted Cetus sea dragon came out of, and because the Pontus was the sea-side part of Cappadocia, doesn't it make sense that Cetus was named after Seti? I just went to the Ceto article to find that a suggestion in the last update, that Poseidon's migration to Cetus involved Hecate, is correct. Here's from the last update:
Later, the Caeni are expected to become the Hector Trojans from the dog cult of Hecate (she had multiple dog bodies), while Poseidon becomes the Greek enemy of Trojans...Reminder: Hecate was the witch worshiped by Keturah-suspect Medea.It appears that the Poseidon cult to the Apsinthii was across the Black-sea coast from his Cetus sea-dragon on the Pontus...which was a migration across the Hatti theater of mythical Attis, a facet of Medea's father, Aeetes.
Now from the Ceto article:
Keto...is a primordial sea goddess in Greek mythology, the daughter of Gaia and Pontus. Keto was also variously called Crataeis...and Trienus [from "three"?]...and was occasionally conflated by scholars with the goddess Hecate (for whom Trienus and Crataeis are also epithets). As a mythological figure, she is most notable for bearing by Phorcys a host of monstrous children, collectively known as the Phorcydes......Hesiod's Theogony lists the children of Phorcys and Keto as Echidna, The Gorgons (Euryale, Stheno, and the infamous Medusa), The Graeae (Deino, Enyo, Pemphredo, and sometimes Perso), and Ladon...
It seemed to me in the last update that the Poseidon-Meshwesh line from the Atun cult through Tanis led to the Danaans proper at Mycenae via Perseus, who killed both the Medusa Gorgon and the Poseidon Cetus. It may mean that the Seti line was in Joppa/Ioppa, and that it warred with an aspect of the Perseus line that was linked to Ethiopians of the Cassiopeia kind. It can be predicted that Seti's family arrived to the Joppa theater shortly after the Poseidon wave from Akhenaten's Mitanni. As the latter's Yuya entity is tracing to Gugu Lydians, Yuya liners are expected through the Lotan > Ladon dragon off of Syria, which connects to Daphne/Harbiye. The Seti line can then be traced to the south shores of the Black sea, i.e. to the Mitanni-suspect line of Medea and Hecate. Perseus then traces to the Parthenius river (south shore of Black sea), home of the Heneti represented by Aphrodite (tending to prove that Perseus and Aphrodite are to be equated), and while Perseus evolved into Paris at Troy, Seti's line becomes the Hecate line to Hector, brother of Paris. That works.
It tends to trace the Perseus cult of Chemmites out of Joppa to Parion at Mysia, excellent for tracing Mysians to "Mycenae," the city at Argos founded by Perseus. Perseus can then be traced to Parnassus, a term that I see evolved from "Parion" because both it and Parnassus were Muse entities. But Parnassus was in the theater settled by Ixion, thus tending to trace Perseus Meshwesh to the Khyan Hyksos.
Perseus as Paris then traces to the Parisii Gorgons at France, where the Chappes' were first found who are expected to trace to Cappadocians. But Perseus is now suspect with PARAmessu, you see, who was Ramesses, father of Seti I !!! Those exclamation marks are because my thinking had not yet arrived to this conclusion when first suggesting (moments ago) a Seti link to Perseus and his killing of the Cetus dragon. So, I'm convinced that Perseus at Joppa traces to Paramessu. Amazing new find. It tends to reveal that Paramessu was a Gorgon people who named the Gorgons and Muses of Parion. Amazing, the Paris Trojans have just traced to Paramessu, tending to verify that there was a later wave of Trojans to be distinguished from a first wave.
Usually dated after the Trojan war as governed on the one side by Hector, there were the so-called Sea Peoples whose various constituents appear to have been Trojan and Danaan elements but with Libyan Meshwesh included. When they converged on Egypt and lost to Ramesses III, it was as though the Meshwesh elements to Troy, partly from Paramessu (= Ramesses I), had come back to take the realm of Ramesses III...of the 20th dynasty. A family feud. Next thing, in the 21st dynasty, the Meshwesh rule Egypt out of Tanis.
The bull/cow of Argos traces to Tarsus, where the founding of Argos is traced by some writers probably due to the neighboring Taurus mountains, but also to Adana on the east side of Tarsus, home of proto-Danaans. It's now suggesting that the Seti / Paramessu line of Egyptians, as represented by Perseus, were in Adana. Mazaca (no Kayseri) was not more than 150 miles nearly due north of Adana.
As Hecate was depicted with three dog heads or bodies, it evokes the story of mythical Geryon and his two-headed dog, Orthos, which I traced to Ordu on the Black sea coast of the Pontus. As the Seti bloodline is now tracing tentatively to the Hecate/Cetus entity at the Pontus, Ordu must have been one of the cities of that bloodline. I even identified Geryon, who was a monster with three bodies, as code for "Gorgon," but at the time I had no idea that Perseus would trace to Ordu. Perseus was himself a Gorgon people, as his daughter, Gorgophone, plainly reveals. But I had started to glean that Yuya was a Gogi peoples long before this trace of the Mitanni to the Ordu area. It means that this Gorgon bloodline was in the far west, at mythical Erytheia, home of Geryon and Orthos, but then even the 100-headed Ladon dragon was placed by myth writers in the far west.
The dog entity of Orthos could just be a clue to Avvites, especially as a Samsun location is not far west of Ordu. Hercules was involved in fighting Amazons in the Amazon area of Samsun, also called Amisos, much like "ParAMESSU/RAMESSES." Was that Egyptian pharaoh an Amazon? Hercules was the one who stole the cattle of Geryon, and killed Orthos, in Erytheia. Hercules came after Samson, and was a descendant of Perseus, thus making Hercules-proper of Greece suspect with the Ramesses > Seti line. I identified Orthos with the Ordovices of Wales, beside Erethlyn that I think was Erytheia. If correct, the peoples of northern Wales trace to the Ramesses / Seti bloodline. I have consistently identified king Arthur's wife (e.g. Gwynedd of northern Wales, founded by Venedotia) as a Veneti peoples, who were from the Heneti, part of the Perseus bloodline. I had always thought that "Arthur" could be from "ERETH(lyn)" even before finding Arddu recently in the Ordovices theater.
The amazing thing now is that I traced Hasmoneans (another name for Maccabees), and even suspected proto-Hasmonians, at Mona and the Menai straight, smack at Erethlyn, because Ordovices are said in Wikipedia to be named after hammer, what "Maccabee" is said to mean in Hebrew. And here I'm finding that Masci-suspect lines from Poseidon > Perseus ended up as Ordovices. I had even traced the Briquessart surname of the father of Ranulph le Meschin to Brigantium at Coruna of northern Spain, the part of Spain overlooking the Cornwall / Welsh coast. It is said that Geryon was in Coruna, as even the two terms are similar.
"Archaically, [Coruna] was known as The Groyne,..." which may reveal a trace to the Grey/Groy surname that I identify with the mythical Graeae sisters, sisters of the Medusa Gorgon. But how does one get from Ordu to the African areas where lived the Graeae Amazons and the Medusa Gorgons? Apollo, the wolf line. His sister, also a wolf line, was from the Amazon area of Ordu, and Apollo traces to Cyrene, where Meshwesh lived. That works splendidly, because the Apollo raven, which I'm sure named Cyrene, and which was code for a white bird turned black, was mythical Coronis. I traced Coronis to "Chora" on PatMOS because Scala on Patmos is predicted to be her son, Asclepios (sounds like "scallop"), who had a cult in Messina, where Scylla is located, the point being that both Meschins and the Arms of Corona use scallops. Therefore, anyone who looks at the word, "Corona," finding a derivation other than from "Chora" or "Cyrene," has played word games to no fruitful end.
The idea of a crone meaning an old hag plays well with the Graeae sisters, who were said to be old hags. English Crones look like they use the Shield of Wayne's (Veneti-suspect kin or Arthurs) with fleur-de-lys in Massey-lys colors. The pegasus in the Massey Crest was born from the sliced-off head of the Gorgon Medusa. It works. The Vain/Van sept of Mackays can also apply to Arthur's wife.
The so-called mural CORONet is in the Crone Crest, thus tending to prove that the coronet is for Coronis elements.
Julie always wants to know where the Silures from south Wales came from, as they had dark skin and hair. The last time speaking with her on this matter, perhaps a week ago or two, Silures were identified with Sellers/Sillers, as simpleton as that may sound. As the Sellers/Sillers use a white-on-red chevron, I traced them to the Chills/Childs partly because "Chill" and "Silure" work well, and partly because Childs are from "Childeric," the first Merovingian, from SALian Franks. Merovingians had a Moor element, and besides, I identified king Arthur years ago with Merovingians in Wales. It was therefore suggested to Julie that the Wayne's should apply because they use the same chevron colors as Chills/Childs and Sellers/Sillers (and Irish Arthurs), but it wasn't until now that I learned of the trace of Crone's, who use the same chevron again, to Wales. How about that. Southern Wales was the domain of MERlin, probably the Merovingian element of Arthur secretly. Thus, Silures are tracing to the Amazon family of Africa.
Willing now to believe that Apollo > Coronis was the Apophis line to Cyrene, it traces Hyksos to Patmos too, a theory I adopted on other grounds, but still need to prove and clinch.
As Geryon had cattle, it was code for a bull bloodline to which he belonged, and Epaphus, the line from Io the cow to the Apis bull (probably red) of Egypt, easily gets the bull symbol to the Apophis branch in Cyrene, the very Meshwesh that I'm in the midst of tracing to Geryon. When spotting the gold-on-white Zionist star of German Sellers, it recalled the same-colored Zionists stars of Dutch Sanders, and the bulls of German Sanders then tweaked some interest, especially as one is white and the other two are red. As Amazons and Gorgons of Africa are at times collectively called, Berbers, Barbers were looked at to find red scallops in the Scottish Barbers and a bull head in the Crest of English Barbers.
The Crest of German Sanders is oddly described in French, and the bull there is called "un boeuf." I did NOT know this until after writing three paragraphs below. The term is exactly the Boeuf surname of PERIgord that I trace to Boofima. Why are Santones tracing to Boofima? Ask leopard-depicted Dionysus and his Sintians in Lemnos.
As Irish Gerrys are said to come from a word for "dog," it could be code for the Geryon - Orthos peoples. We could keep eyes peeled for Seti or Ramesses lines into or out of Wales. I'll keep it in mind when working on Setters and kin later below. The "Perimus" motto term of Caens suggests the "Paramessu," but as the coat shows leopard faces, I traced it previously to the ImPERI peoples (Africa) of Boofima. There may not be a contradiction in tracing to both. The Imperi were traced to Imperia on the Ligurian coast. The Salyes, whom I see as proto-Salian Franks, and who are thus suspect with the Silures, were in Ligurian realms. The swan in the Seller/Siller Crest is a good clue to Silure linkage with the Salyes / Saluzzo. [See the Busher Coat below for more evidence of a Silure trace to the Salyes.]
Julie remarked in an email opened days ago that the Tudors prided themselves in Silures. From a page that she shared, there was, to my delight, the Arms of Tudor showing yet another white-on-red chevron, the colors of the Seller/Siller et-al chevron. It just so happens that while I trace Tudor TREVOR to "Traby", the Caens use the five white ostrich feathers in the Arms of Traby. What's interesting here is that Serena (wife of Stilicho) elements traced to Vilnius' Astika's (wolf line), special 666-suspect kin of Trabys, and yet Serena kin linked to Maschi's of the Margy/Mackie/Mackey kind, making it feasible that "Serena" is a "Cyrene" term.
The Crones (using the Seller/Siller chevrons too) were first found in the same place (Herefordshire) as Tudors and Trevors. This is tracing the Silures way back to Trabzon, not far west of Ordu. Before arriving to the Ligurian part of the discussion, it was gleaned that the Scottish Crones use a version of the Grimaldi lozenges because I had a sense that Ligurians were involved (Grimaldi's are from Genoa and Monaco on the Ligurian coast). I can't recall why I thought that Ligurians should apply at the sight of the Scottish Crone Coat, but suddenly "GRImaldi" looks to be a Graeae / Grey = grim term.
The fleur of the Crone's, being the Massey fleur, is able to get one from the Lys valley of the Salassi (Aosta) to the Lys surname of PARIS, where the lines of the chief priests were first found who killed our Savior. The Lys' are the ones using the fleur-de-lys in the same colors again, with greyhounds thrown in that trace to the Graeae Amazons along with Crone's. Therefore, as the Poseidon-Libya marriage fresh when Poseidon was out of Atun, because it traced to the 600 Danites, can trace this lys symbol, or the Lys valley, to "Laish." But shouldn't PARAmessu be a term that gave birth to "Pharisee." Shouldn't it be expected that Pharisees and Sadducees had a common ancestry in Maccabees?
Note a few things: 1) between Ordu and Cyprus where I traced mythical Cyrene, there is Cappadocia, where the ancestry of the chief priests is suspect: 2) the Seti line of royal Egypt just traced from Ordu to the Ordovices, suspect as the Maccabee hammer line; 3) Ananias had a Seth for a father in Syria, on the mainland from Cyprus; 4) it's known that Pharisees proper came forth from early Maccabees.
So ends the first day of 2003. The below was written last week while on the Keturah investigation, but I'll be sure to make additions / changes in coming days to reflect the findings since last week.
Wait, good morning. I realized a few things concerning the above that should be added here. Where the Yuya line to Perseus is now looking Gorgonic, it jibes with the proto-Poseidon line from Ethiopia being Anaki. When I was identifying (last update) this proto-Poseidon as an Anaki line, the second place he traced down the Nile was to Khemmis, though I didn't have in mind at the time, that Yuya, who lived in Khemmis, was a Gogi liner, yet it jibes where Gorgons were, like the Anaki, an Aryan peoples. The point is, the first thing coming to mind, a brainstorm as often happens when I awake, is that Ahiman, son of Anak in Hebron, was named after the same that named "Akhmim," the other name of Khemmis!
I had wondered what Ahiman may have been named after, then prayed about it I think about two days ago, but just look at the timing of this brainstorm, on the morning after seeing evidence that Yuya was a Gorgon peoples. And besides, Poseidon was slated to trace to Perseus Gorgons even without consideration of the Poseidon link to Yuya's Atun cult or Mitanni (= Aryan) peoples, for Perseus had a war with Poseidon's Cetus. As that war was in relation to Perseus marrying the daughter of CASSiopeia, it's remarkable that Ahiman's brother, Sheshai, was trace-able to "Susa" (home of Kassites)...and therefore to the Shasu peoples who became suspect in the last update as the (proto)Hyksos proper of Egypt. The Kassites were Aryans too, and then while I identified (years ago) "Zeus" with "Susa," I identified the Hyksos (= KHASEwet) from Kassites (also years ago).
For those who missed the insert in the last update, it was just one sentence, placed where it seemed that the Shasu peoples were the namers of KHASEwet. The insert said: "the Susa area today is with as hard-C sound, called KHUSEstan." I learned this when going to the Ahvaz article while writing above, for Ahvaz is in Khusestan. It appears that even in ancient days, there was a hard-C version of "Susa" in "Kassi(te)."
But there is more to be learned here, in that Perseus Gorgons and the Poseidon Meshwesh can be traced to the actual founding of Amazons and their Gargarian (husbands" in Thermodon. Herodotus, speaking a few centuries BC when Amazons no longer lived at Thermodon, claimed that those very Amazons migrated through the Crimea / Maeotis to become the Sauromatians...who lived in part at Tanais! Therefore, with Perseus now identified as the proto-Danaans out of Tanis, and therefore as the Meshwesh out of Tanis and into Adana and Mazaca, it looks like I was wrong to trace "Tanais" to "Tanis," because it was the other way around.
Mazaca at the Thermodon theater must have been the Amazon capital. "ThermoDON" could explain why the Tanais river is now the Don, yet in the beginning the term may have been a Ter-Medan combo linking back to Keturah's son, and perhaps even naming such things as mythical Medea or lake Maeotis. On the other hand, Mazaca became KAIsariya, which for the time being is being traced back to "Kiya," or whatever named her, but as Kiya (Akhenaten's first wife) was definitely a Mitanni, perhaps Thermodon was named after a line from Keturah's son, Midian.
I did not have this topic in mind yesterday when tracing the Gorgons out of Africa to Ordu. Look at where the Thermodon flows: "The Terme River...is in the border of Terme district, located in central northern Turkey between the cities of Ordu and Samsun...In Greek mythology, the legendary capital of the Amazons, Themiscyra, was found on the river Thermodon."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terme_RiverApparently, the Gargarians, and therefore the Georgians, at least some of them, trace back to Anaki in Khemmis, and then Cimmerians settled as an army at the Sinope area of the Samsun theater about the time of Gugu. It is suggesting that Gomerians named Khemmis, though the "Akhmim" alternative may have been named after something else, the family of Anak (the man) now suspect.
I had traced Gargarians to modern Gorgan, known in ancient times as Verkana or Hyrcania. It's at the south end of the Caspian in the Parthian lands. Instead of tracing "Perseus" to "Persia," I traced him to Parthians, which later rang true when he could be traced to mythical Parthenius (Cilicia) and to the Parthenius river. As Verkana is said to have meant "wolf land" from "verk" = wolf, it's notable that ARTEMis was a wolf line and that she was named, apparently, after THEMIScyra (at the modern city of Terme). As one can deduce that Gorgons carried the wolf theme, it's also notable that I identified far-north Apollo as a Gog peoples, and then traced him from the Dehae > Dagestani peoples, named after "dog," to Dacians, thinking that the dog term may have been ultimately from "TOGarmah," son of Gomer.
The Dagestani found their nation to the east of GOGARene/GUGAR (in Georgia), and because Georgians today use a Gogi name at times for their sons, it can mean one of two things: 1) "Gorgon" and "Gog" were not related terms and yet the two peoples had merged; 2) "Gogar" is a consonant-reversal of "Gorg(on)" so that the two were one. At this time, it seems a very good theory that "Gogarene > Gog" were rooted in a Yuya variation. The Apollo wolf line can be traced to Gogarene if he was indeed the Gogi of the far north, but in order to explain why his twin sister was Artemis, (Amazon goddess of Thermodon), it behooves a view of Apollo as the Gargarians around Gogarene.
It's very meaningful where the Shaws trace their "Sithech" ancestry to "wolf," for I would trace that term to Soducena on the south-west of lake Sevan in that Gogarene is on the south-east of lake Sevan. We can trace that lake easily to the Leto wolf cult because the "Sevan" term traces to the Leda swan. I may have been wrong to trace Soducena to the naming of Zedek at Jerusalem; it may have been the other way as descendants from the Paramessu > Seti royals, easily linka-able now to Perseus, landed at lake Sevan as part of the Gargarians.
So, imagine that, where the Seti line named Soducena while Yuya lines named Gogarene, or vice versa, with the migration going the other way around. Either way, though dragon-infested Jerusalem. Georgia had an ancient Svan peoples, and while I trace "Sevan" to Savona in Liguria for multiple good reasons, the Sabines should apply, important because they operated out of Abruzzo, where the Sithech > Shaws were first found as the Sheaves/Chiapponi's who use the key symbol as code, I think, for their ancestry in Kiya, and therefore in Mazaca, exactly where both lines of Egyptian royals trace, both the Paramessu > Seti line and the Yuya > Akhenaten > Kiya line. As we saw that Poseidon out of Khemmis became the Pisidians at Antalya/Attaleia, city represented by Atlas, so Atlas' daughter, Maia, is trace-able to Maja (goddess) of Abruzzo.
Payens on the Pek Smack at CuppaeI think I've made the case. I think I've delved into things unknown. I think I've traced Abraham's blood to unholy Europeans, even to the Trojan > Roman dragon destined to war with God in the False-Prophet / Mystery-Babylon system. What I haven't been able to figure is how Keturah links to these Mitanni elements in Akhenaten's family. She pre-dates Akhenaten by a few centuries, and then we need to ask whether Hebron elements had merged royally with the Mitanni on the Khabur theater...leading to the Mitanni king, Tushratta, father of Tadu-Hepa, a relative, some say, of Nefertiti. (For the record, Tadu-Hepa was a daughter of Juni.)
Akhenaten's father had Mutemwiya for a mother, and so where we read that her name means "Mut in the divine bark," we might do better to understand "Mut" as a Mitanni term? It's speculated by historians that Akhenaten's mother was a Mitanni. It's like a stark-naked scarecrow here that the "Mitanni" smacks of "Midian," a son of Keturah. There had been evidence in the last update that Keturah was fundamental to Akhenaten's Atun cult.
To further prove that Aphrodite was in Hebron, mythical Mars was called, Mamer. From my chapter, Mars and Asklepios are from Men of the Bible: "Amazingly enough, and very convenient as if by Design to expose the dragon cult, Genesis 14:13 mentions a man by the name of 'Eshcol,' and he is an Amorite!! That clinches the Amorite-Anakite relationship...Eshcol's brother, Mamre, is not only a military ally of Abraham, but Abraham was living near Mamre's trees (v 13). " Then, from Wikipedia's article of Mars: "Mamers was [Mars'] Oscan name."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_(god)[As Anakite-suspect Yuya traced above to Gugu, son of Dascylus, compare the latter term to "Eschol." "Dascylus" has the potential to trace the namers of Eschol to Tusculus (on the Latin-Etruscan border), and then while Etruscans and Latins formed the Romans, mythical Mars was said to be a father of Romans when he married the line of mythical Romulus, a wolf. In another scenario of the last update, proto-Romans traced to "Rimmon" with the 600 "Benjamites," who were then identified with proto-Poseidon out of Yuya's city of Akhmim, now tracing to "Ahiman," son of Anak in Hebron. It had appeared that the account of the wives of the 600 men of Rimmon transferred to a myth involving Romans and their abducted Sabine wives, and "Sabine/Safini" may trace from the same elements that named lake Sevan, the place to which Yuya was just traced. I trace "Sabine" to "Daphne" at mount "Saphon," and Daphne;'s father was made Ladon > the Latins.]
It appears that the Mari Amorites had named Mamre of Hebron, Abraham's friend/associate/acquaintance. From being a military leader, Mamre may have become a king with a royal line to the Roman god of war. It might have been be a flight of fancy to make such a claim, but with Aphrodite being traced solidly to Hebron's Amorites, while she was the mistress of Ares, whom the Romans equated with Mars, it's not laughable at least.
"Abraham" can trace to mythical "Priam" at Parium/Parion (near Aenus = proto-Romans)...at the Marmara theater? Virgil traced Romans to Aeneus, a descendant of Paris. Here's from my chapter above: "Behold now that Romans were from mythical Aeneas, yet another Anu-like term...revealing that Aeneas-branch Trojans were likewise Anakites. Clearly, Amorites must trace to Trojans and Trojan realms. This can be verified where Mars was called 'Marmor/Marmar,' for the Troy region is at the sea of Marmara, also 'Marmora' (these terms must mean "sea of Mars")." However, in order for Abraham to be the root of Parium, there needs to be linkage to Keturah's sons, because I'm not prepared to see Israelites at the feet of Trojans and Europeans. This is the mistake of British- and European-Israelists.
Look to the north of Aenus and Parium on the map, and see ERGInes, then recall the Mormon trace to Lederata at the APASa-suspect Avus river, where ARGIdava is located [this was written before the mention of Perseus' proto-ARGos elements to Parion]. It's hard to know for sure whether the founder of Argos, Inachus, was named after Enki elements from the Anaki, but it fits this picture well.
And where Keturah lines trace to the Lederata theater as per her Letushite descendants, "Inachus" ("InaCHOS" to the Greeks) may just be part code for Kos, an integral part of Keturah's Amorite line from Apasa to Aedon. [Aedon must be an Anaki line from Merops of Ethiopia up through to Khemmis]. Where myth writers viewed the term secondarily as Ina-Kos, mythical Ino may have been thus born, she being a daughter of Cadmus out of Thebes, the location of Aedon.
North of Aenus are the APSinthii and the Caeni that I trace to "Khyan," and it just so happens that the Caeni are off the Ergines river [this possible Apsinthii link to Ephesus was written here before tracing Poseidon / Neptune to the Caeni]. A trace of the Caeni to Argos is important for a Khyan-Hyksos trace to Argos.
Troy is marked on the map as "Ilium" where you can see the Hellespont waters represented by mythical Helen of Troy. The Trojan war, fought between the Priam-Hector Trojans and the Menelaus Greeks, included the wife (Lysimache) of Menelaus' brother; she was at Lysimachia (shown) opposite the Marmara waters from Parium. [I don't think I had yet written, at this point, that Lysimachia was from Laish via the Cadmus line to mythical Laius in Thebes, who was seeking to take the throne away from Aedon.] This trace of suspected Hebron elements to these parts of the Hebros confirms that the namers of both places were the same Hebrews of the Amorite kind, wherefore it allows a tentative conclusion that Mamre elements, as they evolved into Mars proper, re-named the Hebros, Maritsa, and then moved from the sources of the Hebros into the sources of the Margus river...flowing down to Lederata [named after elements from Helen of Troy's mother, I'm pretty sure].
To help prove that the Avus was from Abas of Argos, a father of the Danaans proper, the Lederata is at the mouth of the Margus with the Danube. "Ube" can be considered the suffix like the Greek "ops" and the Latin "opi." The Dan entity that named the Danube is not likely to be regarded as Israeli Danites, but rather as the Meshwesh from Tanis, for the Margus cuts through downtown Moesia Superior.
These are just a few preliminary reasons for tracing Keturah to Moesia [where she is expected with the trace of Poseidon 's Meshwesh to these parts]. If "Keturah" is the proto-satyr term to "Satrae," then I suppose she can also trace to the MARYSas goat (Phrygia) suspect with "MARGUS." At present, Keturah's Letushites ate Lederata are suspect with the Leader and Ladd/Ladon surnames, kin of the Samson-related Meschin. The "letho" motto term of Samsons stands out as a code for Letushite lines.
Until this year, the Samson cross design was identical to the Eaton cross design (could be the black Nazi "iron cross"), but even the Eaton cross has changed this year...very possibly to hide the relationship. It's possible that some people in the heraldry connection are doing battle with my writings, seeking to make readers believe that design doesn't merit family connections. You might be led to think that any sort of design whatsoever is qualified. I don't think so. But I do know that surnames traditionally use various designs to pick and choose from. Until about March of this year, I had noted virtually no Coat changes in any way over many years previous. But the changes this year helped greatly to make further connections, and I have proven to myself that design does matter.
There are other ways to make family connections aside from particular design. The "Vincit" motto term of Eatons is now (as of late last month) tracing to the Vindenis location off the Margus, and the adjacent Naissus location is tentatively from Dionysus, a major part of the mythical Manoah > Samson bloodline to Maeonians = Maenads. Therefore, the Eatons (who come up as "Aten") can be viewed as the Atun cult passing through realms previously settled by the Samson and Meshwesh "Danites," but not neglecting the Amorites behind the "Mary Magdalene" code. (The Edomic nature of the peoples who named Margus-area locations was dealt with two updates ago.)
The Praes Dasmini location was traced to Deas > Desmond bloodline, and other elements from the Lake-Van / Mus vicinity, especially from a Dia-like Deylamite peoples the spelling of whom I have once again forgotten. They they were much like "Deas, wherefore look at a river to the left of the Margus to see the Daesitiates peoples, and then consider the Daisy variation of the Deas', and their daisy with bee in Crest, for the Mus area of lake Van was ruled by the BIAini peoples, where 'ini" is merely the suffix (it is said by others that the Biaini named Lake Van).
The Deason and similar variations suggest the Disneys/Deisneys/D'Isneys (Levi lion in red), who use a "Vincit" motto term of their own. From this, it can be expected that the Atun cult of Eatons was in the neighborhood of the Daesitiates. The Eaton cross is a pattee, and that type was mentioned earlier in this update, used by Garebite-suspect Garveys (important because the vincit term is for Amorites, always partners with Garebites) in colors reversed to the pattee cross of Peks who trace to the other side of the Margus. This recalls the topic earlier: "English Harveys were then loaded to find a black boar, symbol of Punts/Ponde's who use a black pattee cross suspect with the iron cross of Nazi's."
Thus, the theory builds that Keturah's Atun and Edomite elements were in the Margus theater. I traced Keturah independently to Timna of Edom, just days or hours after Timna elements were found at the Timaeus river to the same side of the Margus as the Pek river. By now you know that Samson had a wife (un-named) at Timnah so that once again, Samsons and Eatons together are expected in Moesia. The heraldic evidence is over-loaded with evidence for this, and even shows the blue Cuppeo lion in the Samson Crest that traces to Cuppae, where Peks trace.
The interesting things about Disneys is that they are from an Isigny location, showing that the Dasmini term may have lost its capital similarity to form "Asmon/Asman," the term traced [two updates ago] to Hasmoneans. Lest you've forgotten, there are Margy/MACKie/Mackey and Margeson/MACKesy reasons to trace Maccabees to the Margus, and the MacAbee's were even found to be related to the Deas' now tracing likely to the Daesitiates, suspect themselves with the Disneys. When it works, it works, don't fix it.
Hmm, while the Ashmole's are in Asman colors, the Ashmole's use a gold fleur de lys, the symbol of the Disneys. It could be helpful. Disneys also use "qui," a term tracing to the blue Cappeo / Caiaphas lion that traced wildly [two updates ago] with MACClesfields to Cuppae at the mouth area of the Margus. There is probably nothing like a Macclesfield trace to a Cuppae location that can better provide evidence of Maccabee footprints, but to then have an Asmon-like term on the Margus that looks like "Disney" while having the Asman surname trace possibly, by heraldic clue, to Disneys, who in turn trace somewhat well (thus far) to the Pek river, it's very compelling.
On the map below of the same peoples and areas, the Margus is stamped, "Morava," and at the mouth of the river are the Piceni (stamped "Picensii") whom I was wondering about. I couldn't previously recall where in the Moesia / Illyrian theater they may have been. The Timachi smack beside the Picensii must have been the namers of the Timaeus river (shown beside the Margus on the other map). Today, the main section of the river is called, Great Morava, flowing in Serbia, a term that I've traced for years to "Gareb" at Jerusalem, and to Sarpedon out of Crete and into Miletus. I didn't know until this morning that Sarpedon evolved into Pandareus (at Miletus) and therefore into Aedon. In this picture, Merops, father of Pandareus, because he traces to "Merowe," looks to have named "Morava." Again, the Time/Timm Coat shares the same nebully design as Amore's, and Nobels use blue lions.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Celts_in_Illyria_%26_Pannonia.pngThe Catari in the Latovici neighborhood are Keturah-interesting. The Catari are just around the Veneti corner from Cattolica, and Keturah is predicted to trace with Aphrodite-of-Hebron to the Veneti. I had the sense (months ago) that Cattolica traced to Cutters using a version of the Saluzzo Shield, but then the Salassi, who founded Aosta, must have been root to the House of Este (from Este in Venetio) that ruled at the Rijeka / Gorski theater that is about bang-on where the Catari are stamped! Este is in Padova, which term I trace with no doubt to "Bedewe," the alternative name of Merowe. It suggests that Este's should trace to the Ister river at the mouth of the Morava.
Plus, Cadmus traces to Butes in Athens (beside Aedon in Boiotia), where proto-Cutters were in mythical Kodros. It makes me very sure that Keturah traces to Cutters and therefore to the Saluzzo - Salassi family of Ligurians...to whom the Leda swan line had traced that is suspect with Keturah elements at Lederata, on the Ister river right at the mouth of the Morava!
Kodros had the fish symbol, and fish are found in the Catter/Cather Coat...which surname evokes the CATHERine wheel, ZIKERS! Roets, who own the Catherine wheel, trace with Kerns to the sleeping Endymion, exactly where Pandareus traced!!! THEREFORE, Keturah liners are suspect in the Catters/Cathers and Catherine-wheel users. How about that. And the Catter/Cather fish are the salmon design used by Salyes-related Salmons, a branch of Cheney-related Salemans. It's the Keon / Kane fish too. [Later, it was found that Cheaters/Chators, in Roet Coat colors, were first found in the same place as Roets. And sometimes I forget that the Roet Shield-and-Chief combination is that of the Saluzzo's!]
Found after writing all the above: "In 435, the city of Margus, under the Eastern Roman Empire, was the site of a treaty between the Byzantine Empire and the Hun leaders Attila and Bleda....When the Romans discussed handing over the Bishop, he slipped away and betrayed the city to the Huns, who then sacked the city and went on to invade as far as the gates of Constantinople itself."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margus_%28city%29What could it mean that Attila's Huns were on the Margus? Could they have been Keturah liners? It was not long ago that I suggested a trace of the Cattle's/Cattels, and therefore of "Cattolica," to a C-fronted version of "Attila." I didn't clinch the idea, but it was thrown out there. I had found a Bleda-like location (months ago) called, Bled, on the Sava and at the very source of the Sava, where there is also a Lesce location that I've traced to Leslie's, who were HUNgarians. It just so happens that Bled is not at all far north of the Catari.
Plus, just now while looking on the map in my atlas, I saw "KOZARA" and neighboring Kozarac stamped almost along the Sava smack between the Una and the Urban(us) river, where the Maezaei lived, and where Serb-suspect Servitium was located, reflecting Serbia along the Margus wherein certain Maezaei bloodlines lived. It very much appears that Keturah elements moved from the Margus to the Sava, and joined the Huns even at the Margus. Shortly before finding (i.e. not many updates ago) the quote above that shows Attila and Bleda at the Margus, I had traced Huns exactly to the Maezaei area of the Sava. It's asking me to link Huns to Keturah, even as all the other bad boys of the world were from her lines.
While at the atlas, having noted Modena beside Padova, which is Keturah-important because I trace "Modena" to Methoni, I saw for the first time a Copparo location smack beside Ferrara, important because I trace Pharisees to "Ferrara." In this picture, it is probably accurate to trace Copparo to Cuppae because the Ferrari Coat is an upright lion in colors reversed to the blue lion of Massins/Masons whom I see as relatives of the Kent Time's/Timms tracing to the Cuppae theater. In a small circle around Copparo, Ferrara and Modena, one has the entities of Caiaphas and/or Herod, the Pharisees, and the Maccabees (who lived in Modiin of Israel) all in one neat, local package. But that small circle will also include Bologna, where I trace the "bee/Boii" portion of Maccabees. Again, Nicholas de Vere traces Veres to Mitanni so that I now expect Keturah elements at Modena.
Okay, so the new finding is that Attila and Bleda were at the city of Margus. I had no idea until now. The city of Margus is near modern Passarowitz, the German spelling of Pozarevac. The Pase/Pace surname [first found in Bologna] with Pacenti variation is coming to mind, first found not very far away from Piacenza, which smacks of the Picensii at the mouth of the Margus [at Passarowitz, not far from Cuppae, where the line of Caiaphas is suspect, son-in-law of Ananias whose line is suspect in the Ananes of Piacenza. That really works well; don't fix it].
Entering "Poser" unexpectedly gets the Boast/Bois/Boys Coat using the Cheney and Saleman format and therefore tracing to Busca beside Saluzzo. Keturah elements of the Catter / Cather kind already traced to Salyes elements, and Bush's / Boschs trace to the house of Bar-Este, and to Esau and Bozrah. That works, don't fix it. Compare "Poser" to "BOZR(ah)." And that's being said after Edomites already traced to the Margus, even before tracing Timna-suspect Keturah elements there. Very contrary to what I used to believe, heraldry can discover Edomites. I had no idea at the time that Edomites were so central in Freemasonry. I just didn't think it would be likely.
I've never suspected before that Pace's/Pase's (also "PASCel") were a Bush / Bosch branch, but they all three use white-on-blue, colors of the Bar and Este eagle, etc., and then while Bush's of the presidential kind were of Skull and Bones (always traces to Hebron), Bologna is also BONonia and a major part, according to my findings, of the Skull and Bones bloodlines.
"Bushel" (water bougets) was just entered as per "Pascel," to find a "Dum spiro spero" motto, the Massin/Mason motto, though the point is, DUM. The water bougets and the Bouchard-like variations trace Bushels to Bouchard II at the same place (Paris) as the Levi and the Chappes'. It's only a small indication, but to be expected anyway, that people in Cuppae were also in Passarowitz. Yes, Bush's should be in Bozrah-suspect locations, definitely.
[For anyone interested in the Silures investigation that led to a slew of white-on-red chevrons, some of them ermined chevrons, note the ermined chevron in those colors in the Bushel Coat, for as Silures tended to trace to Salyes, here is more evidence of it. The Silure lines had traced to Arthur-related Waynes, and so note that both the Bushels and Arthurs use hurts (blue roundels).]
If you recall, the Sandy used a motto term leading to Punts/Ponde's (black boar, as with Bush's) that ended up tracing to the Pek river at least on a tentative basis. I now find that the upright bull (rare) design of the German Sander Crest is used by Italian Bosers/BOSENs/Bosello's. They could conceivably trace to Passarowitz because Poser's trace to Bush's and Cheneys.
I think I've just found that where Bushers and similar terms trace to, on the Sava, smack between the Una/Oeneus and Urban rivers where I had traces Salyes, between Salviae and Lamatis on this map. In my atlas, there are BOSANski locations all along the Una, as well as a Bosanski Petrovac smack where the Maezaei are stamped, between the Salviae and Lamatis locations. I'm saying this because I've just found the Mieske/Mesech bull design in an Italian Bozzo/BOZZANO Coat, and because I've insisted that the Piasts at the root of the Mieszko's trace to the Bistue locations at the sources of the Urban and Bosnia (side-by-side) rivers. (In the other map above, the Daesitiates are on the Bosnia river.)
With the Atun cult tracing to Keturah elements all over this picture, even to the Catherine wheel of Saluzzo-related Roets, it needs to be added that mythical Piast the Wheelwright should be honored in the Wheelwright Coat that uses both the Catherine wheel, and a six-sectioned Shield like the Tut-suspect Tate's. King-Tut liners already traced heavily to Eliphas and Massey liners (Esau-related Sanders use an elephant).
But as Edomites and Atun trace to Kos, Serbia's KOSovo might just apply. Certainly, at this point, Bosnia's SARAjevo can trace to the Seir-ians in the Eliphas line. Pandareus from Kos was found only today to be a branch of Sarpedon [this was written a week or so ago as I re-read and make additions here January 2], before coming to this Serbia topic, and I've been tracing Sarpedon [on a gamble, admittedly] to Serbs and Sorbs for years. Apparently, therefore, Crete's Minoans, to whom Keturah's Atun cult had traced, were in Serbia. I traced Trabys to Crete, and Serbia is beside the theater of the Triballi Thracians. That's interesting.
I've just realized that it's a double term: Sarp-Edon, meaning a Minoan line of a Sarp kind to the Aedon entity of Thebes. That fits the Pandareus shoe excellently.
I kid you not; until now, I have not known the location of Pozarevac = Margus. I had to resort to my atlas. It is a small distance to the east of the mouth of the Margus, roughly where you see Viminacium on this map. It is just about at Cuppae! I did not know this when tracing the Picensii suggestively to Placentia. Not only is Placentia near Brescia (the Cappeo lion used in the Arms of Brescia), but the Picensii were at the mouth of the Margus. Pozarevac is closer to Lederata than to Cuppae.
There is a Passaro surname said to be from "Paci," using the gold-on-blue "steer" of German BACHs that used to show like a calf...that I therefore claimed to be a deliberate design of the heraldry masters for the golden calf in the Exodus wilderness (because Khyan was also "APACHnas"). The new Bach bull looks adult and stately by comparison to the calf once shown, so that one wouldn't but two and two together in a trace to the Exodus pharaoh. Besides, one first needs to know that Apachnas was the Exodus pharaoh. The Passaro's call their beast a "bull." The BACCHUS bull cult comes to mind, thus tracing the Exodus pharaoh to Dionysus (it works in other ways). As "Bach" reflects "Pace" well enough, it tends to trace them both, with Apachnas, to Passarowitz/Pozarevac. However, I would stick to a trace of Passarowitz to "Bozrah," not to "Apach(nas)." The Passaro Chief is five torteaux and one pellet.
[Aha! This was written before finding the torteaux trace to Maeotis peoples. Here's what was said in the last update:
...This "Lydian lion" is online somewhere on a coin with a star burst on a lion's forehead, wherefore see the small red object on the forehead of the Sander elephant [the Aha above is because Sanders also use white bull heads, linking them to Passarowitz for two reasons]. The object happens to be a torteaux (a sphere), and then Haughts/Houghtons [white bull head in Crest] use a "tort" motto term [it makes the Passarowitz link once again to Mieszko's]. But a red sphere smacks of the dot on foreheads of Hindus, from India, and then Sindi/Sindones [i.e. Sander suspects] of Sindica (northern Caucasia) are traced by some to the Sindh area of the Indus valley of the Indian theater... We can therefore be more sure that the Eliphas-Lotan dragon line traces to the Sintians on Lemnos [where Dionysus lived].As the Sanders bloodline was just traced to Cronus, suspect with the same Horites as depicted by Dionysus [= Bacchus], so it happens that Dionysus was placed by myth in India, fighting a war there. Strange. BUT ZOWIE, having taken the time to re-load the Sindi article and even read it, LOOKIE HERE what was found after writing all the above:
Strabo describes [the Sindi] as living along the Palus Maeotis, and among the Maeotae, Dandarii, TOREATae [!!!],...Sittaceni....Amazing! The heraldic torteaux is now trace-able to the Toreatae...
There are too many coincidences here, for while the bulls of Passarowitz lines just traced to Mieszko's not far above, the Haughts/Haughtons were named after a daughter (Sigrid the Haughty) of Mieszko I. Therefore, as Haughts appear to use the Sander bull, it's telling me that Passarowitz elements had been from the Maeotis peoples in association with the Sindi, wherefore the five torteaux of the Passaro Chief ought to trace to the Toreatae, or what were probably the peoples of Taurus in the Crimea...likely named after the Taurus mountains to the north and west of Tarsus. That's where the Seti lines had been traced earlier in this update, when they were found to be the founders of the Sarmatians (as per the trace of Herodotus of Amazons and Gargarians through the Crimea to the Maeotis coast). At that very time, the Seti line was suggested as founding Soducena at lake Sevan!
So, apparently, the Seti line (from Ramesses) went through the Sittaceni and the Toreatai, and somehow got to Passarowitz = Margus. The same Seti line is expected to have contacted the Sindi line to Punt-related Sanders, important here where Punts/Ponde's are tracing tentatively to the Pek river, beside Passarowitz.
Moments AFTER writing all the above, I kid you not, and after failing to find Cream-like surnames that might trace to 'Crimea," I found a RAM in Mieske-bull colors in the German Cramer Coat (hee hee), important because it was determined that ParaMESSU and RaMESSES were Meshwesh lines, the root of Mieszko's! The heraldry masters seemed to have known about the Ramesses trace to the Amazons of Crimea. Irish Cramers (Masci fleur?) use a "qui" motto term, not to be downplayed just because it's a three letter word. It traces to "Kaisariya," which was Mazaca.
As the Irish Cramers were at Cork, where there lived the Desmonds = Deas', the "CROM" motto term of Desmonds is now crying for a trace to "Crimea" elements. A-HA-HA, LOOKIE, the three small shields in the Crim/Grimbridge/Crombrig Coat (in Crom colors), for I've proven that some small shields to the small square in the Arms of Placentia/Piacenza, where Passarowitz lines have already traced, and then the Desmonds use the saltire of Annandales who trace to the Ananes of Placentia! The quatrefoils of the Croms even traced to the quatrefoils of the Ayers and Heyers/Ayers while Heys use small shields too.
Desmonds have already traced to the Margus, and should as a certainty trace to Margus = Passarowitz in that Desmonds are part of Mus elements, quite evident now at Passarowitz. The "Crom aboo" motto of Desmonds links to a motto of Kilpatricks, who lived near Annandale, and who use a "Laidir" motto term tracing to Lederata. Excellent. And the Croms looks like a branch of Sellers/Sillers who traced to the Salyes...on the Durance river, where Brians trace who use another "laidir" motto term.
As soon as the Crim/Grimbridge Coat loaded, I saw a version of the Sedgewick Coat which comes up as "Saddock" (both use a small white Shield on a larger Shield), a term so close to "Soducena" that it tends to verify the Crimean root of the Crims/GRIMbridges. I traced the "EARS of rye" in the Saddock Crest to the Heyers/Eyers/Ayers presented above. This moreover recalls that lines of Silures (found to be Dutch Sander kind) were traced (earlier in this update) to GRIMaldi's in Liguria as per the Scottish Crone Coat. With Grimaldi's now tracing to the Crimea / Maeotis theater, note that Tortona is not far inland from Ligurian titles owned by Grimaldi's.
Genoa/Genova, where Grimaldi's had origins, is due south of Tortona, and there is straight highway through the mountains between the two locations. The Genova write-up traces to "Janus," the founder of "January," It was just yesterday when I said: "Good morning, it's January 1, 2013. Will the 666 come out this year? I doubt it. The month of January was named after the Roman god, Janus, a term like "Yanassi," the son of Khyan who did not make it to the throne." I do trace Khyan to Cuneo with Cycnus Ligurians from lake Sevan. In fact, there seems to be a mirror image between my trace of Cycnus to lake Sevan and the trace of the Ramesses > Seti line to that place.
In that Silurian investigation, it was the English Crone's (Herefordshire, same as Tudors) who used a version of the Seller/Siller Coat, and lookie now, for those Crone's are also "Crome" and similar variations.
I can't trace Crone's both to Coronis in Cyrene and to the Crimea...unless the two were anciently connected. As Cyrene was a mate of Apollo, note that it was his twin sister who went up to the Crimea. End Insert]
[BIG GOGI INSERT -- After shutting the computer down after the insert above, some new insights came to bear that revealed the root of Gog in the Seti line, an idea that does not appear top contradict a Gog root in Khemmis / Yuya. It started with recalling the Shot/Shute link to Scute's that I've come to entertain in the last several weeks. I had dealt with Scute's sufficiently enough that I recalled by heart that they use small gold shields, the color of the small Crim/Grimbridge shields. By what coincidence did I trace Ramesses > Seti in the insert above to the Amazon line into the Crimea and Maeotis theater, while here I find that the Crims use the symbol of SCUTE's who smack of the Shute's and therefore of the Shuta variation of Seti's name??? It may only be a theory of historians that Shuta was the same as Seti, but in this picture, it seems to be true.
As soon as this realization was made, I started to understand that mythical SCYTHES, a son of Hercules with an Amazon snake woman (snake below her waist), was the Seti > Sittaceni line to the founding of the so-called Royal Scythians, the ones whom I opted to identify (years ago), rather than the Cimmerians at Sinope, as Ezekiel's Biblical Gog. But what floored me is that everything in this picture leads, due to more than the small Scute shields, to the Ananias line at Placentia, meaning that the same line which produced Gog also produced the killers of Christ. And that's why Gog to this day is nothing by a target for a nuclear missile with Christ as the trigger man.
There were so many things coming to mind. What to share first? Eventually, it was realized that the Getae Thracians were named after "Seti." If the Getae named the Jutes, as I used to propose, then note that Jutes were part of the horse-depicted founders of Kent, where the Crims/Grimbridge's were first found. There was a MASSAGetae peoples on the east side of the Caspian, where the Dehai lived that Wikipedia says were root to the Dagestani. Already we have cause again to trace the Paramessu > Seti line to Dagestani, and to prove that Dagestani named Dacians, the latter are said to be a tribe of Getae Thracians! Amazing. The Getae were from Egypt, who would have thought? But then who would have traced far-north Gog to Egypt? Never in my wildest imaginings.
Just like that, it can be gleaned again that the Seti line traced to Cappadocia, if indeed the (proto)Dacians had to do with "docia." Here's how the Seti line can trace to Cappadocia in another way. "Massa-Getae" seems quite obviously to be a combination of Seti with whatever named his father, ParaMESSU. It's suggesting that historians are wrong to view "Massagetae" as "great Gatae." Instead, Massagetae should be viewed as the royal line of Ramesses, and therefore as a Meshwesh peoples. Compare "MASSAGetae" with Cappadocia's "MAZACA." If we knew which came first, the naming of that city or the naming of the Massagetae, we could draw the time line in the right direction, and perhaps find other keys to unraveling the Gog mystery. Herodotus implies that the Massagetae were there as of about 550 BC, several centuries after Seti. I'm assuming that the Massagetae came later, after Seti, so that they can be traced to the Sittaceni (proto-Scythians, right?), explaining why Massagetae were like the Scythians:
Herodotus is the one who not only told about the Amazon evolution into Sarmatians, but about the Massagetae. He wrote: "In their dress and mode of living the Massagetae resemble the Scythians...when a man grows very old, all his kinsfolk collect together and offer him up in sacrifice; offering at the same time some cattle also. After the sacrifice the Massagetae boil the flesh and feast on it..." Such good and considerate people to eat their grandfathers, what a bizarre mentality. He goes on: "The only god they worship is the sun, and to him they offer the horse in sacrifice..." Was that part of the Atun sun god carried by the Mitanni in Egypt? Yuya was a horse trainer for the king. The Atun cult at Amarna and El Minya led to the Minyae of Greece, who buried their dead with horse heads. Amazing "horseincidence."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MassagetaeThe fact that the Thermodon Amazons settled the Tanais area explains why the myth writer made Scythes a son of a Danaan, Hercules. Historians will even tell you that Sarmatians were ancestral to Scythians, the ancestors themselves of Huns. It's one thing to say that the Ramesses > Seti line was a wayward Scythian branch in Egypt, and yet another to say that Gog was directly descended from that line. That's what I'm seeing. But as the Dol Alans trace to Huns, what about this:
Ammianus Marcellinus considered the Alans to be the former Massagetae. At the close of the 4th century [AD], Claudian (the court poet of Emperor Honorius and Stilicho) wrote of Alans and Massagetae in the same breath: "the Massagetae who cruelly wound their horses that they may drink their blood, the Alans who break the ice and drink the waters of Maeotis' lake" (In Rufinem).The pagan grail cult of blood oaths can easily trace to Huns from the Hungarian Arpads, and the Carpae lived with or beside Dacians. The grail symbol of Seti-rooted Scythians can now trace better than before from the Huns back to the grail implied by Jesus as belonging to the Israeli chief priests. And when Jesus created his own grail theme when he said, "do this in remembrance of me," he was in the midst of forming his hammer by which he would smash the Sadducee grail cult.
I used to suggest that the Edones were identical with Getae who then evolved into the Jutes because the latter were also called, "Eoten." It may be indication that Jutes carried the Atun entity to Scandinavia's Odin. But I started to find some distance between an Edones equation with Getae, even though I traced Odin independently to the Scandinavian Sitones and therefore to the Sithone tribe of Edones. Suddenly, by entertaining the Sithones as a Seti line to Sitones, it can explain why Juteland was also Denmark, since the Paramessu > Seti line was identified as the proto-Danaans proper. Even though I no longer saw the Getae straight from the Edones, yet I saw them as close relatives, which is now explicable where "Getae" was a term from the namers of the "Sittaceni." It's still a bit of a fog, but the point is that these entities all seem very trace-able to the Seti royals. Perhaps heraldry can clear some of the fog.
The article adds: "Evagrius Scholasticus (Ecclesiastical History. Book 3. Ch. II.): 'and in Thrace, by the inroads of the Huns, formerly known by the name of Massagetae, who crossed the Ister without opposition'." We just read that Attila and Bleda were at the Ister at Passarowitz; that section was written perhaps a week ago, but it can now be added that the Seti trace from Mazaca to Cuppae (near Passarowitz), made more recently still, is jibing with the Massagetae trace above to Huns on the Ister. And while I read that Attila claimed to be the Sword of Revelation 19, you must realize that the Sword will on the other hand be the destruction of end-time Attila.
In Wikipedia's Getae article, there seems to be an equation made between Dacians and Moesians, perfectly expected where Dacians had been Dagestani cousins of the ParaMessu line to Massagetae:
In his Roman History (ca. 200 AD), Cassius Dio adds: "I call the people Dacians, the name used by the natives themselves as well as by the Romans, though I am not ignorant that some Greek writers refer to them as Getae, whether that is the right term or not...'. He also shows the Dacians to live on both sides of the Lower Danube; the ones south of the river (today's northern Bulgaria), in Moesia, and are called Moesians, while the ones north of the river are called Dacians. He argues that the Dacians are 'Getae or Thracians of Dacian race'It's perfect. The Paramessu line to Moesians too. And as "DAG" can be traced to the "Saka" on the east side of the Caspian, to one can view Dacians as kin, or even the ancestors, of Saxons...who appeared in northern Germany about the same time as Jutes. Then, Jutes and Saxons together settled the Kent area of England, where the Ixion centaurs ruled. Didn't I suggest that Akhenaten, who seems to be at the root of the royal blood of Ramesses, was himself a Khyan line? As Akhenaten's first wife was Kiya, it makes sense that the king took a Khyan-like term as his own thrown name. And as the Hyksos traced to the founding of the Hector Trojans, by what coincidence does "PARAMessu" smack of "PARIUM," the Mysian location where mythical Priam comes out of, father of Hector? In that picture, "Priam" does not appear to trace to "Abraham," but rather to Ramesses...albeit Ramesses was traced to Keturah's children with Abraham.
For me, it's quite simple to trace the Getae-Dacian-Moesi family to the Apollo Muses...that made their way to Avalon = Bute by way of Avellino near the Picentini mountains. I'm bringing the Picentini mountains back to the fore due to the Picensii at the mouth of the Margus, but also because I trace Payens to them that I think were from "Apachnas." I can then cite the pike fish of the Getty/Geddes surname, you see, to act as evidence for a Getae trace both to the Getty surname and to the Picensii at the Dacian frontier. It just so happens that small shields are not only used by Crims/Grimbridge's and Scute's, but the Getty Coat (!) uses them in the white-on-red colors of the small square in the Arms of PIACENZa!! You know the facts when you see them, right?
Note the "Capta" motto term of Gettys, very linkable, by the Arms' blue wolf, to the blue Cappeo-lion line out of Cuppae. As that blue lion is in the Arms of Brescia and in the Bruce Coat, it can't be coincidental that the Pike/Picken saltire is colors reversed to the Annan(dale) saltire as used by Scottish Bruce's. The Annandale saltire in those colors is used in the Arms of Ayrshire, where Pike's/Pickens were first found. Therefore, the Pike's definitely trace to Ananias lines out of Placentia, and no doubt back to the Seti line that I now see as the proto-Sadducees. Does that work? Don't fix it.
Piacenza is at the Trebbia river that should trace to the Treballi Moesians. The Trebbia flows from the province of Genoa, the turf of Grimaldi's now tracing to "Crimea" with the Crims/Grimbridge's. The Grimaldi's entered my mind initially at the sight of the Crone lozenges, wherefore note the blue fish in the Crone Crest in the design of the blue Getty Crest pike. Moreover, the crane design ("holding a rock in its foot") of German Crone's is, to the best of my ability to compare, identical with the blue crane of the Scute Crest ("a rose in its mouth"). End BIG GOG INSERT that leads to Ananias too]
It's easy to find evidence now for a trace of Passaro's (with Bach steer) to the Paeoni on the south side of the Margus river. First, the Pace/Pase surname already traced to Payens/Pagans/Paions, and then the Steers use a motto like that of Amore's who clearly link to the Malahule > Meschin line of Paine's/Paynes (for new readers, "Apachnas" should trace to "Pagan"). It means that all surnames in this paragraph trace from Amorites and Garebites to the Margus in downtown Serbia. While it may at first seem difficult to trace "Payen/Pagan/Paion" both to "PICENsii" and to "Paeoni," it's not so hard to imagine a Paeoni merger with the Picensii at the Margus. [Both Pikes and Pagans use pierced stars.]
Reminder: Amore's link to Timms/Time's, but this is a good time to remind that the nebully Key Coat (pyramid-like chevron) is almost the nebully Timm/Time Coat (pyramid-like chevron). Doesn't it mean that along with Apachnas elements, the Margus - Timaeus theater had Kiya's bloodline? Who was Kiya? The wife of Akhenaten with Khyan-like name that I traced to the naming of Kaisariya, also called Mazaca after the Mus / Meshe household of Apachnas, in Cappadocia...tracing to Cuppae on the Pek river beside the Timaeus. Therefore, doesn't it strike you that Kiya's elements in the Key surname should trace to the Timaeus? Put it all together, and one has the sons of Khyan = Apachnas settled in those areas.
There are all sorts of possibilities here. The Pase-like Pastors and Bush-related Pastures/Pastors may apply to Khyan, especially as Bush's trace to the Saluzzo theater in Cuneo. Polish Packs use the Massey / Lys / Crone/Crome fleur (= Salassi of Aosta theater), expected of the Khyan line. French Packs use the Passaro / Bach steer / bull design in red (suggesting the Borgia / Burgh / Conteville line to Meschins too). English Packs use the Saluzzo Shield-and-Chief combination, as well as anchors tracing to Hope's/Hoods and Hoods/Hutts, important because the German Bachs (the ones who showed a calf) use a "spes" = hope motto term. This is a power-packed paragraph. Khyan can run, but he cant Heid.
Two updates ago, Daphne was found to be without doubt at the mouth of the Margus. I didn't know at the time that Margus was at that location too. Something re-named that area with a Passer-like term that gets the Apachnas bull/steer, and Daphne was a grand-daughter of Everes, the shepherd seer that Manetho and/or Josephus used to name the "Shepherd Kings" at Avaris. "Passar" can suggest Packers/Peckers of BUCKlebury, using the same cross type of Pascals in colors reversed, important because it was the Macclesfields ("copia" motto term) who traced to Daphne elements at Cuppae, and the Packer/Pecker cross is essentially in the style and colors of the Macclesfield cross.
On top of that, did you note the red and white checks in the Packer/Pecker Coat, for "Jewish" Marks/Marx's use them!!! Both these Marks and Packers/Peckers use roses too. So even Karl Marx traces to the Margus, but then Muscovites (of the Varangian kind) are expected to trace there too.
By the way, when I named the chapter, "Who's the Leda of the Pack," I didn't yet know about Apachnas. That chapter happens to stress the Hebron region's Anaki and Amorites. Pachincidence? Keturah's son, Jokshan, ancestor to Letushites, has suggested Lederata, suspect as a Leda line. Leda was a Spartan, from Sepharvite Joktanites, I think.
There is no Bucklebury Coat coming up, but Buckle-related Buckleys/BULLkelys show more bull heads in white that already traced to Passarowitz. The Buckleys/BULLkelys, expected now to trace to the Passaro = Bach bull, even use a "timide" motto term that could be in honor of terms coming out from the Timachi and/or Timaeus river. As you can see on the map if you wish, there is a Timacum location at the source of the Timaeus.
The Timm-related Keys use a "DOMINo" motto term. What do you suppose that's for? Years ago, I traced the LaceDAEMONian Spartans to the DUMNONII Celts at Devon and Somerset, tracing "Daphne" to "Devon," and later realized that Devon's Daphne cult traced to DAVENports of Macclesfield (copia term, Cappeo lion) and to DAVIDs/DAFFys ("Pax et copia" motto) of Cheshire (location of Diva) now tracing to Cuppae. And guess what more? I traced the Dumnonii to the Irish Domnann's that are clearly the makings of the Irish form ("Dhomhnuill") of the MacDonalds (their Ferte eagle links them to Ferte-Mace's in Cheshire), and then while MacDonalds use a "mare" motto term, the Mare's and related DeMere's of Cheshire use the MacDonald ship, Passaro-important even because Buckle's and Buckleys use "timere" as code for DeMere's. The MacDonalds even use the same crosslet as Davenports! The Buckleys/Bullkelys (chevron in colors reversed to Davenport chevron) have just traced to the Daphne cult at Cuppae! And that's just about where the Passaro bull just traced.
MORE!!! The Donarty variation of Davenports suggests the Doners (Mieske/Mesech arm and sword shared by Khyan-suspect Keons) who use essentially the green Mackesy snake coiled around a sword. The Leader Crest has a similar look, suggesting that Doners trace to Lederata and to neighboring Margus, where Davenports have already traced [this would have been fresh on your mind if not for the two inserts].
This is a good place to remind that the Marsi of Abruzzo, suspect with the Mars and Aphrodite relationship traced to the Margus, worshipped a snake goddess, Angitia [may play right into the trace of Seti elements to Jutes and Saxons, cousins of the Angles]. A Mackesy Coat (found by Tim years ago, think of the importance now) is extremely important because the Margeson surname coming up by entering "Mackesy" is the one that initially led to the Margus topic and related discoveries. I didn't know at the time that a Margus location existed, let alone so near to Lederata.
It just so happens that I traced the MacDonald ship to the mythical Argo, and we that Hyksos trace to the family of Jason. Plus, it seemed that Keturah traced to that same family for multiple reasons, especially when she traced as the Anat cult to Amarna, smack beside El-Minya. The Argo-ship crew (mythical, represents real peoples however) was traced to Scotland generally, and it just so happens that MacDonalds are found around the Argyll area, a term that is therefore suspect with "Argos." The Argyll area has the Deas-related MacAbee's and the Margus-rooted Margys/Mackie's/Mackeys [neighboring Bute = Avalon is where the Apollo Muses settled now identified as the Seti line from Moesia]. The point is, however, that while Keturah was tracing with the Akhenaten cult to some Mitanni, there is a model-ship relic shown in the article on Mutemwiya, the Mitanni grandmother of Akhenaten.
Plus, while writing much earlier in this update [= previous update now], it dawned on me that "Anunnaki" morphed into the Egyptian frog god, Nun, who was depicted holding a ship above his head. It seemed to me that Nun should trace to the Sea Peoples (i.e. Hyksos) and/or to the Argo crew out of Minya, at Amarna. It just so happens that the frog goddess of Egypt, Keket, is the Greek "Hecate" that smacks of HECTor, the Hyksos Trojan king, son of Abraham-suspect Priam [when I write this, I hadn't yet linked the Poseidon > Cetus line to Hecate, and so be reminded that the Poseidon line led from Yuya's town of Khemmis to his marriage with the Libya > Meshwesh now being identified with the Paramessu > Seti line]. Keturah is figuring in at every turn I make.
It just struck me, while wondering why Roets should be first found in Somerset (named by SUMERians of the Anu kind?), founded by the Dumnonii, whether Roets were named after the idea of rowing a boat. That is, as Roets are tracing tentatively by their Catherine wheel to Keturah > Argo-ship lines, might Roets/Rowatts have been named after a rowing symbol of the Greek mariners i.e. the Argo ship? Just for fun, I entered "Rower" to find a bend in the colors of the Chaucer bend, important because a Chaucer surname married the sister of Catherine Roet, owner of the Catherine wheel. Catherine's father was a Payen by first name. As Austrian Raths use the Rower/Rauche bend exactly, no other Coat symbols in either Coat, I'd say Roets and Raths were identical bloodlines.
What is very interesting here is the Chaucer and Rower bends are in the colors of the Skull bend while Skulls trace to Hebron's Eschol valley, jibing with the Catherine wheel tracing for the present time to Keturah elements in the Hebron valley. The Hebron Coat uses the chevron of Chills/Childs and Seller/Sillers, but moreover the "Keep" motto term of Hebrons was traced to "Kiev," settlement of the proto-Muscovite Varangian pirates.
The Argonautica myth-story tells of the Argo ship sailing from Colchis [where Chaucers may trace] up the Danube river. The ship sailed only part-way up the Danube, then turned south-west to exit at the south end of the Adriatic sea. This was a curious storyline. Either the writer (Apollonius of Rhodes) believed that a river joined the Adriatic to the Danube, or he was simply outlining a migratory route of the peoples represented by the mythical crew members. The best route from the Danube to the southern end of the Adriatic cuts through the Margus river. I recall tracing the Argo to the Adriatic coast at a mythical-Uranus location as it was depicted by his sickle (suggesting Sicily), and then turning northward to, and down, the Po river, then down the Eridanus and back out to sea down the Rhodanus/Rhone. Another myth had the Argo sail past/around Scotland to Scandinavia.
Below is from the Wikipedia article on the Argonautica. The setting is Jason fleeing for his life, having stolen the fleece from Colchis. He's also taken on board Media, the daughter of the Colchian king, and she, a witch, was a worshiper of froggy Hecate. Coincidence, or was froggy Nun of Egypt a symbol of the proto-Argo Minya location? Can we trace one of Keturah's sons, Midian or Medan, to "Media"?
The fugitive Argo is pursued by two Colchian fleets, ships numerous as flocking birds...The second is led by Media's half-brother, APSyrtus, and it takes the same route as the Argo, up the river Ister (Danube). A distant branch of the river eventually leads the Argonauts into the Sea of Cronos (Adriatic), where Apsyrtus finally corners them on the Brygean Islands.One article says that the Brygean islands are in Croatia's Kvarner gulf, off the shores of the Japodes, and therefore off the shores of the Breuci (= Aphrodite) on the Kupa river (i.e. Breuci seem to be the namers of the Brygean islands, suggesting Bridges = Phrygians with Aphrodite Heneti all at once). It bears out, for on 'this map, the Brygean Islands are off the right side of the tip of Istria, where one can barely see "Apsorus," the meaning likely of mythical Apsyrtus (the OPS cult of Sabines in Abruzzo comes to mind). The island to the north of Apsorus, Crexa, even smacks of mythical Circe, part of the Argonautica, traced by me to "Circasia," another name of Caucasia (i.e. where Colchis was located). It's a very good bet that the Kupa river traces to "Cuppae," and that the Breuci (suspect with the blue Cappeo lion of Brescia/Brixia) were from Aphrodite, the cult enjoined by Keturah [I did not know of the Catari in the land of the Breuci when writing here]. The article goes on to say that the Colchians in hot pursuit of the Argo, failing, remained in the islands around the Brygeans rather than going back to Colchis.
Thanks to a one-time emailer with a Mason-like surname, I learned a few things about Masci's Masseys that I knew nothing about. I learned of Sales-of-Mascy, Tattons-of-Masci, and Bullkelys-of-Masci, all from Dunham Masci in Cheshire. I'm keeping in mind with Tattons that Akhenaten was father to king Tut: "His original name, TUTANkhaten, means "Living Image of Aten." Is that not amazing?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TutankhamunThings are happening here like a flood! I was just loading the Tate's because they use the Shield format of the Wheelwrights while the latter, from Mieszko's Piast-Wheelwright family, use CATHERine wheels, when more white roses showed up, symbol of the Catters/Cathars, in this alternative-English Tate Coat. Roses are everywhere in heraldry, so it's important not to closely link all surnames using them, but in this case, Roets are both a branch of Cutters and Catherine-wheelers so that any surname, such as Tate's, linking to a Catherine-wheel line are expected to have close relationship. My point is simply that Keturah links back to king Tut, as was found by many ways in her traces to Tut's father, Akhenaten.
The white roses in the Leader Crest can easily trace white-rose lines to Lederata, and white-rose lines out of Yorkshire included the Yorks, who use a Cuppae-like motto term. Do you see how much fun this is when you've pinned the tale of the donkey right where it belongs? What tale am I talking about? The grail tale.
Scottish Tate's are the ones using the Annan(dale) Shield and Coat combination and therefore are trace-able to Cuppae with proto-Ananias. If Tate's are from king Tut, then this alone traces the Anat > Atun cult to the Margus / Pek river, but when coupled with the kinship between Wheelwright-Tates to Catters/Cathars, it trace's the Atun entity to the Margus, which is compelling for identifying Tate's with the Tut line to Tattons-of-Masci. The Tatton crescents are not only in the colors of the Tout/Tut crescents, but in those of the Savoy Masseys/Masse's as well. Masseys easily trace to the Lys valley beside Savoy, and the Lys was home to the Salassi that trace to Saluzzo with the Keturah line of Cutters. It's clear cut; Keturah and Tut were distantly related.
This recalls a trace of the Tayte variation to Taygeti [this was written before the Seti > Getae realization], the Spartan mountains that create the Mani peninsula where Las/Laas was located that was represented by "Menelaus," husband of Leda's daughter (Helen of Troy). And I had traced "TAYgeti" to "Tiye, mother of Akhenaten! [It jibes with a trace of Tate's by other means to Kiya, Tut's mother, and wife of Akhenaten.]
Seeking Tattons of Masci in my files, the following (6th update, April 2010) was found:
The last time I mentioned Daytons, I mentioned the Tattons/Taytones (first in Cheshire), a family close to Hamon de Masci (of Cheshire). I also mentioned raven-using Tates/Tayts. One Tate Coat could be a variation of the Dais/Daisy Coat.Just before finding that quote, I had noted that Tate's use a bent arm (holding a bird) in the shape and position of the bent arm of Leaders (holding the rose branch), which is merely a subtle piece of evidence, welcome just the same, for tracing Tate's to the Lederata line / theater. It just so happens that the Deas/Daisy Crest uses a bent arm holding a daisy. But the mind blowing point is the Dayton write-up: "They descended from the distinguished Norman family of Picot d'Auton, and it is from that local name, which means from Auton, that the surname derives." Isn't Auton exactly where the Nefertiti - Atun cult traces??? Therefore, Daytons and Tate's/Tayte's are indeed from king Tut, who at first worshiped Atun, then changed his mind and his name to suit Amun.
BIG AHA! Recalling what was said above concerning the changes in the Samson and identical Eaton crosses, and that design does matter, I meant to say that design changes by the heraldry people cannot be to their own whims, but rather they must choose from the designs used historically by the surnames. The Eaton/Eton cross is now the pattee cross, in the very same shape so far as I can tell, of the Dayton cross, making perfect sense in that "Eaton" and "Auton" are nearly identical. Ha-ha, thank you very much once again for making changes, whoever you are. It's telling us that Keturah's Atun line traces to both Eatons and Samsons! Now you know that design matters i.e. Samsons and Eatons used the same cross design previously because they are kin, but apparently someone wants to hide that fact. The design once shown had crosses formed in what looked like double axes, expected of Hyksos lines.
The Eaton Coat and cross is in the colors and quartered format of the Hykes/Hack Coat and cross. Get a load of the white-on-black scallops in the Hykes/Hack Coat, which are used by Samsons too. DESIGN MATTERS.
[Insert -- At this point, it needs to be asked whether the Catter/Cather fish, in the colors of the Hykes above, are the pike fish of the Gettys/Geddys, for the two surnames are similar. The Scottish Hykes even use the fish design of both Catters/Chathers and the Getty/Geddy Crest. What this paragraph may indicate is that "Seti" and "KETurah" are related terms. After all, Seti's mother was "Sitre," what may have been a Situr-like term evolved from "KETURah." Reminder: Seti's wife was Tuya.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SitreAHA! The white scallops in the Hykes/Hack Coat are not quite the same design as the white scallops. The top points are not as sharp, for example. But the black Hykes/Hack scallops are identical to the black Ladd/Ladon (Somerset) scallops! Samsons and the Hyksos thus trace to Lederata, as even the Samson motto may indicate.
The black Ladd/Ladon and Hykes/Hack scallops are used by Edens. No surprise. Edens look like they use a version of the Hicks/Hix Coat. The Hicks/Hix's (Yorkshire) use a motto phrase, "Tout en," smacking of "Tatton," kin of Touts/Tuts (Yorkshire!)) using the crescents of Oliphants (Massey horse design in Crest) who use a "tout" motto term of their own. The Esau-Hyksos merger, right? Well, in this case it looks like the Eliphas line had merged not with the first wave of Hyksos, Khyan and Apophis, but with the second wave, the Meshwesh out of Tanis. There are quite a few centuries between Eliphas and Ramesses II, but as the latter was named in part after Ra, whom I view as Ara = proto-Ares, it can trace the Ramesses line loosely to Edom's Horites (i.e. whom Eliphas married).
[Ares traces to the Aras = Araxes river, flowing to the south of Jerevan, where Soducena was located. Why did Herodotus say that the Massagetae were beyond the Araxes when the river is on the west of the Caspian while Massagetae were on the east side of the Caspian. Might there have been a Massagetae branch on the northern parts off the Araxes? As I'd expect it in relation to Dagestani, see (in the map at the Soducena link) the Misia location in Albania, where modern Dagestan is situated. That's important if it's correct to trace Mysians and Moesians to the RaMESSES > Seti line that I've just traced to Soducena. The Sindi and Tanais at lake Maeotis are shown on this map, with the Crimea marked as "Tauricus". End Insert]
Ramesses II, the son of Seti I, moved his capital to the Pelusiac branch of the Nile delta, what I'm sure was mythical Belus, father of Tanis, so to speak. Tanis was, according to Wikipedia, on a nearby branch of the delta some 30 miles from Pi-Ramesses, the king's city on the Pelusiac. I suppose the accuracy of these claims depends on the accuracy of what the leading archaeologists. To help prove that the Ramesses > Seti line was from Akhenaten, the latter's wife, NEFERtiti, suggests ancestry in NEFERtari, the wife of Ramesses II.]
German Edens/Edders/AEDENs use a "LIBERtas" motto that should be intended for the Cretan labrys axe, the double-headed axe that was apparent in the Eaton and Samson cross shown until recently. So you see again that DESIGN MATTERS. If Edders can be Atun elements, what about Etters/Atters/Tire's showing the MacDonald ship and probably the Davenport crosslet?
The lion of Daytons (surname from Autun), by the way, is the red-on-white lion of the Rome's/Rooms who traced to the Rimini location of Maschi's. [The Maschi's of Rimini were highly suspect as the Poseidon line of Atun through the 600 "Benjamites" at Rimmon, but that find was made before the Ramesses line manifested itself as part of that Poseidon line. In this way, the Ramesses line can trace again, with the Maschi's, back to Moesia.] The same lion is colors reversed to the lion of Steers [suspect with the Bachs from the Exodus pharaoh whose household I have been viewing as a Mus / MESH household that can now trace to "RaMESSes"]. As the Rome/Room motto, "PUNGit sed placit," traced to Pungs, and was therefore suspect with Pinks, and with the Pink-suspect Arpad blood oaths [known to be a custom of more-ancient Scythians now suspect from the Seti name]. The Pincum location beside Cuppae ought to be mentioned under that light.
This is especially important in that Pungs (Yorkshire) are also "Pagan / Pagnell" while Hugh de Payen married a Chappes' surname tracing hard to "Cuppae." The Pinks were likewise first found in Yorkshire, [as were Hicks/Hix's and Touts/Tuts]. Moreover, the "placit" term traced to Placentia, thus jibing with the Caiaphas-suspect Cuppae location. The Pink Coat is even a Shield-on-Shield with a white one on top, as with the Saddock Shield-on-Shield.
[The Crims/Grimbridge's use a similar idea as Pinks and Saddocks, wherefore Saddocks were traced earlier in this update to the Sittaceni from the Seti line. The Crims/Grimbridge's are the ones using small gold shields to boot that were traced to the same of Scute's and therefore to the Seti > Sittaceni > Scythian line. But several weeks before this update, the gold shields of Scute's was traced to Placentia, where Picensii-suspect Payens are tracing hard from the Cuppae theater. Over and over again, the truth is coming out that Sadducees are very much a part of the Seti line.]
I traced the Pink = blood-oath theme to the Arpads and their ancestors, and here I find Pincum not many miles (about 100 as the bird flies) upstream on the Danube from Almus (modern Lom), the suspected father of Arpad. It deserves a paragraph all it's own. [After writing here, I found Attila and Bleda at the Margus location,
There is a Pek river (not shown in the map above) with a mouth smack at Pincum (at modern Veliko Gradiste). As "cum" is a suffix, the place was named after a Pin entity. It evokes my trace of "Payen" to the Pine's/Pyne's (look like they ought to be part of the Silure discussion), and to the Maschi pine cone. I view Pine's/Pyne's as a branch of PENdragons and Arthur-related Waynes (the latter use the Pine/Pyne chevron), and while Wayne's use the Macey gauntlet gloves, Penders/PYNders (same place as Maceys) show the Macey Shield but with lions in colors reversed to the Cappeo lion that I expect at Cuppae. How important is this paragraph for identifying the Arthurian grail cult with the Arpad grail cult in the Almus-to-Pincum stretch? Why does the Pender/Pynder lion have blood drops?
Doesn't the Arthurian Round Table, which traced to Roets, who in turn traced to Rua the Hun, trace to the Huns at Passarowitz? Did we see a black rounder (pellet) in the Passaro Chief? Yes, and Penns/Penners (in Pendragon colors) use three pellets.
Back now to the trace of mythical Daphne (the dolphin of Delphi) to Cuppae's dove theme, where the dove-using Leafs/Leve's (same chevron as Penders/Pynders) trace as the suspected Levite line of the Caiaphas kind. I've just entered "Alms" seeking Almus-rooted surnames, to find the Elms, which recalled the Elmer Fudd investigation that linked well to Daffy Duck because the creators of these cartoons had bloodlines on the brain. It was just shown repeatedly that Daphne elements at Cuppae trace to the "copia" motto term of Davids/Daffys, and then years ago it was shown that the Elmer dolphin is in the colors of the dolphin in the Arms of Dauphine.
There came a day when I was able to suggest a link of the Dauphine (and Durham-surname) dolphin to the two dolphins in the Arms of Romania, but I didn't quite know what more to do with it beyond its link to the Reagan dolphin...because I had traced RAGNvald, father of Rollo, to Romania's Reghin location. But now, it just so happens that the land across the Ister from Pincum and Cuppae is Romania. The Romanian dolphin can therefore be traced quite well to Daphne elements out of Cuppae.
If the paragraph above tends to link Elmers to the Rollo Sinclairs, it should explain why the Irish Elmers use the same cross type, in the same colors, as Sinclairs. And as Arthurians were linked fundamentally to Sinclairs, it can help to explain why Sinclairs are now tracing to the Cuppae / Pincum theater...the Pek river. What was this Pek river? Irish Elmers (and Rolphs/Ralphs) even use ravens, a symbol of the Rollo-Sinclair line ravaging through Shetland before the pirates knew to behave civil-like. It took the Franks to subdue the beast within them, only to make them wear Roman underwear.
In the 6th update February, 2010, the "DETHHHHHHpicable" term used by Daffy Duck was considered to be code for the Deth/Daeth surname (in the two colors of Daffy Duck), but since that time, it became known as the Darth/Death surname attributed to the codeword, "Le Morte d'Arthur" (both Morte's/Motts and Darths/Deaths use white-on-black crescents). And now, this Daffy-Duck line of the Darths/Deaths is tracing exactly to the Daphne elements in the Cuppae / Pincum theater. It can be added that the dethPICable term may have a PICensii / Pike line in mind too, especially as Pike's and Darths/Deaths (and Davis') both use trefoils.
The owners of Daffy Duck were MERRIE Melodies, and then the beast in the Darth/Death Coat (colors reversed from the Vince's/Vinch's) is identical to the winged griffin in the Vince/Vinch Coat. Does that tell you anything about the true da-Vinci-code grail cult? It doesn't trace to Mary Magdalene and Jesus, does it? It's tracing to the Arpad > Arthurian grail, and to the filthy one implied by Jesus against the Israeli priesthood. Just compare "PINK / PINC(cum)" to "VINCE," and it may seem shockingly like the truth behind the tale told by satanists to discredit the Pure Son of God. That's why the Sword of Revelation 19 has been Prepared for a shoving down Attila's throat at the Wedding Supper of the Lamb.
To support a Pincum trace to Apachnas = Khyan: "The Pincum relief of the Trojan Cycle depicting Achilles and Hector was found in Ritopek" (Veliko Gradiste article above). RitoPEK? Moreover, at another article, we find a Khyan-like location: "The Pek continues to the north through the Kaonska klisura (Cyrillic: Gorge of Kaona), between the villages of Kaona and Turija." The latter location smacks of Trojans in this Hector picture. The Conans, using the Sinclair / Elmer cross, are coming to mind. In fact, entering "Kaon" gets the Cockayne's/Cocaine's with roosters, the Sinclair-Crestsymbol.
If you recall, the Payens and Rome's/Rooms were traced to the Cree's/Crae's that go by variations such as Crete, Craith, and GRATE. The question is, can Veliko "GRADISte" be traced to Valerius Gratus, the Roman governor of Judea immediately before Pontius Pilate? I could be way off base here as "Gradiste" is said to mean "old settlement," but the pellets (e.g. the Passaro pellet) we've being seeing in this discussion may just apply to Pontius Pilate, especially as Pillette's/Pilotte's (could be a Payen-Coat version) use the Shaw grail cups. Then, the Leader-Coat PELLETs can easily trace to this Pek theater. Reminder: Passarowitz is just one river over from the Pek.
Leaders were first found in Durham, and then the Durham Crest shows two dolphins, as does the Arms of Romania. Not one, but two, dolphins in a Crest is suspect for having a particular reason beyond a flight of fancy. Why were Durhams first found in Dumfries (as with Rome's/Rooms), where Annandale is located, and where the "Laidir"-using Kilpatricks lived? I suppose we could ask the Ananias lines at Cuppae.
There can be double meanings to place names. It's certainly suspicious that VELiko Gradiste even starts with a term like VALerius. To the west of Veliko Gradiste is RITOpek, at the Serbian capital of BelGRADE. My my, we now have a Grade term with a Vel-like Bel term. And then the lion design of the Rome's/Rooms, in colors reversed, is used by Ritters/Rutters, who were the first surname looked up just now to check for RITOpek lines. PLUS, as Gareb-like Garevo (small village but it exists just the same) is near Veliko Gradiste, note the garbs used in the Ritter/Rutter Coat. And then as I maintain that Garebites (from Sarpedon of Crete) moved to Serbia with Amorites, see the "amor" motto term of Ritters too!
The Pungs/Pagans use the Coat of the Crete's/Cree's/Crea's, first found in the same place as Pilate's. This is all very compelling. But to boot, the Ritter/Rutter lion design is used by Crete's/Cree's above. If that's not enough, the Payens can work into this Pincum / RitoPEK discussion where Hugh de Payen married a Chappes, while the Ritters/Rutters (= Roet lines to Rua Hunns?) use scallops in the scallop colors of the Capes'! Zinger! The Caiaphas line must have been in Ritopek too.
It just can't be coincidental that Ritters even use a "Melitae" motto term, code for Miletus, founded by Sarpedon. Just like that, we can prove, not only that Sarpedon did found the Serbs, but that the Cree/Crae surnames are for Cretan lines.
ZOWIE, having just entered "Peck" [this was the first time], it's the pattee cross design of Eatons and of the Daytons of Auton [I hadn't yet realized here that "SarpEDON" fit the shoe of an Atun line to mythical Aedon]. Excellent, for Autun is in Burgundy, where Pilate's and Crete's/Cree's were first found. And the Dayton lion is the Rome/Room lion in the same colors! It should be said that the Peck cross is called "formee" rather than "pattee," and that's for a reason, we can be sure. Entering "Pek" gets the same Peck Coat.
The Dayton description does not speak on their crosses, so I had better testify that I've just studied the Dayton crosses (red on white) now showing, and am certifying that the shape is that of the Eatons and Pecks/Peks; the latter use their three crosses in colors reversed to the three Dayton crosses. The Dayton description: "A shield divided perfesse silver and black shield with a lion rampant counterchanged, within an orle of gold fleur-de-lis. The Dayton Coat now showing shows no such Coat. I am verifying that the Dayton Coat does use the red-on-white lion, same design, of the Rome/Room Chief. The lion design is in black in the Crete/Cree/Crae Chief.
The so-called "orle" suggests the Orells with the torteaux, a symbol in the Passaro Chief [I had not yet discovered that the torteaux could trace to the Sittaceni-related Toreatae and Sindi. The Ore's, who likewise use torteaux, use the "piles" of the Latters, thus tracing Ore's and Orells to the Pincum theater, and then the Mormon code, "Latter Day Saints," traces also to the Sindi > Sintian > Santones line that named the city of Saintes. Therefore, it looks very good for that trace suggested earlier of the Seti > Sittaceni line to Passarowitz = Margus.] The Orrs were first found in the same place (Renfrewshire) as Speers suspect with the Pace/Pase/Pacenti spears, and the latter use them in the colors of the Pilate pheons.
Thus, the Pek river appears to be a place where Pilate and Gratus liners resided, smack at Cuppae. Predictable, but the evidence is welcome. The Orrs are the ones using the three white Latter/Latto PILES (same design, same position, same everything except background color) so as to trace to LEDERata!!!! YES, it's all true.
Having said that, and finding the proto-Arpads suspect at the Pek river, two points: 1) I had trace torteaux and proto-Arpads to Tortona in Piedmont; 2) I had traced the Khyan Hyksos to the naming of "Kun/Hun," and they were proto-Arpads.
Let's back up to the English Elmers using an axe in Crest that is apparently the Drake axe because both Drake's and Elmers were first found in Hampshire. The Elmers with the axe are the ones using the dolphin now tracing to the dolphin in the Arms of Romania. That is very Drake significant because Nicholas de Vere, the high cheese of Drakenberg (or whatever he's called), wrote a book, "From Transylvania to Tunbridge Wells" (evokes the historical count Dracula). Transylvania is now Romania. Then, to help prove that Drakes are Vere kin so as to be more sure that Drakes are at the root of Drakenberg, English Elmers were first found in the same place (Essex) as Vere's.
Why are Elmers tracing to Drakenberg elements? Well, Essex is where Peks were first found too, and Elmers are tracing to "Almus" (Elmer ancestry is thus suspect with Huns) not far downstream from Pincum = RitoPEK Gratiste (Riddels use a chevron in Pek chevron colors). Then, the Rounds/Rownds, using rings, a symbol tracing hard in recent updates to Huns, were likewise first found in Essex, suggesting a possible trace of Rounds to "RITOpek," but more certainly to Rua the Hun...whose Huns were at and around Passarowitz between Ritopek and the Pek river. Besides, the Round chevron must be a deliberate color-reversal from the Pendragon chevron because Rounds are suspect in the Round Table code.
German Ritters/Riders use a split Shield in the colors of the split Warner Shield, of a surname tracing both to the Varni (suspect with proto-Saxons and definitely a fellow tribe with Angles) and to the Time's/Timms whom trace to the Timaeus river beside the Pek. The Drake's use a wyVERN dragon suspect with "VARNi / WARNer." Thus, Drakenberg's so-called "dragon blood" club is tracing to the Scythian blood oaths expected out of Almus.
Pickens/Pike's, by the way, were firstly found in the same place (Ayrshire) as Margys/Mackie's/Mackeys, meaning that Pickens/Pike's should trace to the Picensii peoples too suspect at the naming of the Pek. It suggests that the Pike-related Gettys / Geddys should trace to the Dacian-related Getae Thracians. Angitia, the Marsi snake goddess perhaps honored by the Mackesy snake, may have been named as per Anu-Getae. Just a guess. Nicholas de Vere makes much of Drakenberg's ANUnnaki links, and so "Angitia" may have something to do with naming the Varni-related Angles. Pike's/Pickens have already traced to Cuppae's Ananias line, and were therefore on the Pek.
This Angle Coat (version of the Nagle/Angulo Coat) used to show a thin red line from corner to corner rather than the red cane-like object now showing. A thin red line is also in a Italian Rita/Rheda Coat, looked up moments ago while seeking Ritopek elements. A fellow tribe of Angles and Varni were the REUDigni that may apply. The Angle Crest is a PEGasus. Pekincidence?
The pierced stars of Payens/PAGans and Pike's/Pickens trace to the Pierce's and related Percivals (first found in the same place as Roets that might just link themselves to the namers of Ritopek), whom I trace very confidently to Bellamys of PERCHE. This is important because I traced Bellamys confidently to mythical Bellerophon, rider of the Pegasus. It was an easy trace because Bellamys of Perche co-founded the Masseys/Maceys who use the Angle pegasus design, and of course Masseys, fundamental Vere kin, trace easily to Moesians all around the Margus. The Vere motto term, "nihil," is code for Neals/Nihills, and then the German Nagle's are also "Nail/Neal," which tends to clinch the Vere trace to the Varni and Angles.
But as Ritopek is at BELgrade (mouth of the Sava), suddenly, Bellerophon elements trace to that Serbian capital. Interesting now is that the so-called VINCa culture evolved out of Belgrade; so says Wikipedia's article on Belgrade. It evokes Vinkovci (off the Sava not far from Belgrade), birthplace of GRATian the Elder, whose name is like "BelGRADE." And his son, VALentinian, is like "VELike GRATISte," and like VALerius Gratus from Israel's Roman occupiers.
As Pegasus was born from the head of the Medusa Gorgon, what about "Grocka": "Vinca is a suburban settlement of Belgrade, the capital of Serbia. It is part of the municipality of Grocka."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vin%C4%8DaIt may be coincidental, but entering "Grate" gets a fesse in the colors of the Pek chevron. It all suggests proto-Serb Cretans mixed with African Gorgons of the Meshwesh kind. The Packers/Peckers do use Moor heads. We have seen an abundance of evidence that the Pek was a location of the Meshwesh to the Massey/Macey surname and their PENdragon kin. But the intriguing storyline here is the Payen inclusion in the Daphne-laden region of the Pek, for Payens and Valerys were both first found in Dauphine, and they use chevrons in colors reversed to one another, making it suspect that Payens, already suspect with the Caiaphas line at Cuppae, were part of the Valerius Gratus line. Remember, Gratus was a Roman, and Grate-like surnames trace to the surnames using Rome/Room symbols.
One needs to ask why these same families that revolved around the murder of Jesus always seem to converge at certain places, and then the da-Vinci cult is tracing bang-on to their Serbian domain. Are we really to think that these families were related to the children of Jesus and Mary Magdalene? I've read that a Magdalene-involved book ("Holy Grail" issues) by Lawrence Gardner was written to some degree, or at least inspired, by Nicholas de Vere, and here his Veres and Drakes and Angles, and even his Mitanni line, are tracing smack to the Vinca culture. That is very suspicious, forcing us to consider that the idea of Jesus with children was a hoax from deluded witches.
[Insert -- If we ask who uses a string of lozenges, as does the Pink Coat, can it help prove that Pinks were from the Pincum / Pek theater? The Marshalls/Marescals use a string of lozenges, who can certainly trace to "Margus" elements. Marshalls were a fellow clan with Keiths showing a stag that no doubt traces to Huns. Bricks/Bruics (stag) also use a string of lozenges, which can now trace Pincum elements to Losinj, "a Croatian island in the northern Adriatic Sea, in the Kvarner Gulf. It is almost due south of the city of Rijeka and part of the Primorje-Gorski Kotar county." The last time the Kvarner gulf was mentioned, not far above, it was as per Argonautica myth: "One article says that the Brygean islands are in Croatia's Kvarner gulf, off the shores of the Japodes, and therefore off the shores of the Breuci (= Aphrodite) on the Kupa river (i.e. Breuci seem to be the namers of the Brygean islands, suggesting Bridges = Phrygians with Aphrodite Heneti all at once)."
Therefore, the Bricks/Bruics, who use the Massey fleur so as to be suspect with Ranulph de Briquessart, trace to the Breuci and to Colchians in the Brygean islands. In fact, Keiths lived at Musselburgh while Mussels/Muscels use the Meschin/Masculine Shield format and colors. But the Argonautica did not only trace the golden fleece Colchians to the Kvarner gulf, but also Jason, a part of Keturah's bloodline, and then it was shown above that a Catari peoples lived in the Breuci / Gorski Kotar theater, not far upstream on the Sava from the Kozara regions along the settlements of the Maezaei off the Oeneus river...likely named after Oeneus, mythical father of Methoni, a Keturah-suspect line that was traced easily and confidently to Kodros, father of Medon. It's all strong evidence that Media, no doubt a representation of the Colchian golden fleece, was from the Keturah > Medan bloodline.
Finally, the Keiths are said to be "Catti," whom I've traced to Attis, sun god of Phrygia (i.e. where "Brygean / Brick" is expected to trace), no doubt the representation of "Aeetes," father of Medea. But I now need to resurrect an old theory, that the heraldic lozenge was code for the Lazi peoples, for the Lazi lived in the city (Kutaisi) of Aeetes, and in fact I identified the golden fleece exactly with the Lazi living in the Lydia of Pelops. The Losinj article continues: "Settlement on nearby Cres is known to date back around 12,000 years [don't believe the evolutionists dating scheme]...According to Ptolemy, the Romans called this [Losenj] island Apsorrus, and referred to the islands of Losinj and Cres collectively as Apsirtides. "
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lo%C5%A1injThe Arms of Mali Losing (on Losinj) shows a ship to honor Jason's Argo. But the article stressed a mariner theme without mention of the Argo. The people are kept in the dark.
ZOWIE UNEXPECTED: Entering "Cres" gets the same Crete/Cree/Crae Coat using a version (both surnames use blue and gold diagonal bars/bends) of the PUNG/Pagan/Pagnell Coat!!! Found just as PINCum and Pinks were being suggested for the Losinj location. That can't be coincidental.
There is even a black eagle in the Pung Crest complimenting the Rijeka topic below that was already conceived and started before checking out the Cres term. But how amazing that I was just on the Crete/Cree/Crae bloodline back while the Pincum topic was at hand. Plus, the first mention above of the Argonautica and the Kvarner islands must have been a complete "fluke," as I had not yet come to the lozenge / Losing topic, nor was it on my mind at any time until now.
Reminder: Pinks and Pungs/Pagans were both first found in Yorkshire, all the more reason to trace Payens/Pagans to Pincum at the mouth of the Pek. But then we should expect a trace also to Picenum, the coast of Italy facing the Kvarner islands. In other words, expect a trace to Rimini and neighboring Cattolica, not forgetting that the Maschi's of Rimini use a pine cone as code for the pine symbol of Attis, probably the line that named Cattolica. This is being repeated because, a moment ago, asking what surname "Veliko Gradiste" could trace to, I tried the Blake's to get a large fret, symbol of the Cattells/Cattle's. In fact, I've only just noticed that Blake's show Caddel / Catel variations. The Cattle's were the ones suggested as the entity which named Attila, and we just saw Attila and Bleda in the Pincum theater. Plus, the Bled location on the Sava is near the Catari. (Lest you've forgotten, Veliko Gradiste was the new name of Pincum.)
We really do need to ask why Keiths, suspect as the Atun line of Jason, were settled near EDINburgh.
So, as was suspected, Pincum elements can trace with proto-Meschins to the Breuci / Maezaei theater so as to explain why Pinks (also "Pinc") and Bricks both use a string of lozenges. The Peks use pattee crosses, and then the Pinks/Pincs use "crosses pattee fitchee." As Losinj is south of Rijeka, it'll need to be repeated that I traced the two-headed black eagle of Maxwells (ROXburghshire) to the two-headed black eagle on a ROCK in the Arms of Rijeka. Maxwells/MAKESwells were identified with "MAKESlesfield," an early name of Macclesfield, and the latter has already traced without doubt to Cuppae...on the Pek. Therefore, the Pinks/Pincs can trace by that means, too, to Pincum.
Hmm, as Pollocks are a sept of Maxwells, it's very interesting that Pula, not far down the Kvarner gulf from Rijeka, uses a cross in the colors of the Pollock saltire cross. The "Audacter" term of Pollocks was traced without doubt to the Audleys and Hoods, who both use the fret, symbol of Blake's/Catels and Cattle's/Catels. Listen to this garbage: "Evidence of presence of Homo erectus at 1 million years ago have been found in the cave of Sandalja near Pula." People who state such "evidence" should either share it, or keep their Darwinian fantasies to themselves. You'll note that they make these claims in historical documents without ever sharing the evidence, to make you think it's just as unquestionable as the air your breathe. The point is: was the Sindi > Sintian > Santone line at Pula?
The Sandle/Santler/SINTler Coat (fesse in the colors of the Jewish Pollock bend) uses scallops in the colors of the Capes and Abbs/Apps scallops that trace to Caiaphas lines. In a recent update, I said that I would no longer put "Jewish" in quotation marks when mentioning Jewish Pollocks, because they proved to trace without doubt to the Israeli chief priests, and here we are finding the same, for Capes' are highly suspect with the Chappes'..which once again traces Payens potentially to the Kvarner gulf.
The Abbs/Apps Coat is not only a perfect reflection of the Sandler/Santler/Sintler Coat, but the Abbs'/Apps' uses yet another string of lozenges!!! It proves that Sandle's/Santlers are from Pula and neighboring SANDALja. The "Speravi" motto term of Abbs/Apps' can now go to the Speers, first found in the same place (Renfrewshire) as Pollocks. This is a super find for making it even less doubtful that Maxwells trace to Rijeka.
I trace Speers to a Spree river in Silesia at the LUSatia theater, a place suspect as a Lazi-Caucasian settlement. In fact, the Serb-related Sorbs were in Silesia / Lusatia. It you recall, both Speers and Spree's use crescents in the same colors, the colors even of the Touts/Tuts and Tattons, thus tracing Speers (and Sandle's/Sintners) to the same line expected of the Ramesses > Seti line to the Sindi / Sittaceni theater (Caucasia). And then, as per "Sittaceni," it just so happens that SITlers/SITTNERs were from Silesia. It behooves us to make a "SINTNER" link to "SITTNER." But if that's not enough, the SCHITner variation smacks of the Seti trace to "SCYTHian." The Sitlers had been traced by a slightly-complicated exercise to Setters and Stars, and from that the Sturs entered the Sitler picture, who were first found in the same place (Hampshire) as Sandle's/Sintners. Hampshire was the location of the golden fleece bloodline as per Atreus to Atrebates.
Let me now repeat what was said earlier in this update:
...it can be repeated that the white-on-red scallops of the Abbs/Apps are used by the Capes'! It tends to prove that Leiters, Ottones and Chappes' were from Lederata and Cuppae [Pincum is between those two locations]A little after that:
The Pungs/Pagans use the Coat of the Crete's/Cree's/Crea's, first found in the same place as Pilate's. This is all very compelling. But to boot, the Ritter/Rutter lion design is used by Crete's/Cree's above. If that's not enough, the Payens can work into this Pincum / RitoPEK discussion where Hugh de Payen married a Chappes, while the Ritters/Rutters (= Roet lines to Rua Hunns?) use scallops in the scallop colors of the Capes'! Zinger! The Caiaphas line must have been in Ritopek too.Ritopek was at the Vinca location in Belgrade, and Pollocks were traced several months ago to Valentinian III, with ancestry out of nearby VINKOvci. And with the Sandle's/Sintners tracing to the Seti line in Caucasia, it once again traces the Seti line to the Margus / Pek theater of Dacio-Moesians. The simplified Masonic storyline here is a migration from Caucasian Scythians merging in proto-Roman areas with Gog-proper Scythians out of Lydia, and with proto-Serb Cretans who developed into the Atun line of Aedon.
It's likely that Sandals/Sintlers were the Candle's/Candida's whom are known to be the line to pope Borgia in Safor. The Keith Catti had been traced without doubt to the Candida/Cattanei surname that this pope was sexually /emotionally involved with. The Candle's/Candida's were first found in the same place (Naples) as Capua's/Caputo's suspect with the Levi lion and with "Caiaphas" elements. The black lion shared by Levi's and Capua's is traced by me to the upright black lion design used, for example, by Sitlers. But I just found another upright black lion of that design in the Belgian Schit/Schute/Shoot Coat. As the Sadducees traced with little doubt from Seti = Shuta to the Scute's of Placentia/Piacenza, by what coincidence do we find the Levi lion in a Schit/Schute surname???
English Scouts come up as Scotts (Catherine wheel), and then Irish-Scot myth traces Scotts (the nation) to a Scythian line out of Miletus, founded by the Sarpedon Cretans whom were just implied as the proto-Serbs. Plus, the Scottish Scotts were first found in Roxburghshire, where the Maxwell mother trunk of Pollocks lived. In a nutshell, that traces Sarpedon Cretans to the tip of Istria as well as to Rijeka at the opposite end of Istria.
In Crete, the Great Mother had been re-named, Rhea, a term like some variations of the Crete/Cree/Crae bloodline. The Ops bee cult of Sabines (now tracing to the APSirtides islands of Losinj and Cres off the Pula shores) was owned by ancient QUIRITES (Sabine co-founders of Rome), smacking of the Cretan CURETES, the Rhea cult itself, and then I traced the Pollock bugle (goat horn) to the Cretan cornucopia about a decade ago. The Cretan cornucopia was of the goat / bee goddess of Crete, Amalthea, the nurse of infant Zeus (son of Rhea). I did not know at the time that a Orrs, first found in the same place (Renfrew) as Pollocks, had a cornucopia in their Crest.
I'm not sure whether "cornuCOPIA" should be traced to the "copia" motto term of Macclesfields, and therefore to "Cuppae," but it sure does work well with Pollocks being a Maxwell sept while Maxwells look like Macclesfields. The Orr piles have already traced to the Latters and therefore to Lederata, which is the line of Ladon, the one whom the Babylon harlot of Revelation 19 rides. I've just noted that the Orr Shield-and-Chief combination is that also of Elmers (i.e. tracing to Almus downstream of Lederata / Cuppae). The Elmer dolphin traced to Daphne elements in Cuppae, exactly where the "copia" motto term of Davids/DAFFYs traced. The Orr torteaux may be evidence of linkage to the Sindi-related Toreatae.
It should be re-mentioned that, earlier in this update, the Shots/Shute's linked to Dachs, important because the Andech branch of Este's ruled out of the Rijeka / Istria theater. Pula is at the southern tip of Istria, and Sitler-suspect Sandle's/Sintners had traced exactly there. In this picture, the namers of the Ister river trace to Istria, but my overwhelming sense is that it's the Dacio-Moesians at the mouths of the Pek and Margus rivers that trace to the Pula and Sandalja locations. But it's undeniable now that this Ister cult, which is in Revelation 17 as the Great Mother Mystery Babylon, was also the Caiaphas bloodline as it merged with proto-Ananias at Piacenza.
On top of that, the whole is all bound up with the Mary-Magdalene hoaxers, no better than evolutionists who dream of a universe devoid of God...so that they can rule mankind as God himself. If only they could minimize Jesus, or destroy him altogether, they could play God all the better by controlling more people. It's the Christians by and large who won't get in under their wings.
Was William the Conqueror a control freak for recording the 2 cows owned by Gertrud, and so much more on everyone in his English empire? We have control freaks today who want to use private information on us all to play God. The thing is, they're not playing; their serious.
The Sitler lion had been traced to the French Vincent lion, and then the Shield-on-Shield of French Vincents is colors reversed from the same of German Kupe's/Koops The white objects in the Kupe/Koop Coat are "CANDLE sticks" (suggesting the Sitler-related Sandle's/Sintners and Candle's/Candida's). Candle sticks are uses also by Kyle's who trace themselves to king Cole while the Cole surname has a motto term tracing to Servitium (Gorski Kotar theater) beside the KUPA / COLapis river. No coincidence, right?
The Kupe Shield-on-Shield is in the colors of the same of the Arms of Rennes-le-Chateau, and then the English Vincents trace to Rennes-le-Chateau with the Croms, very important because the Pollocks of Pula were just traced with Sandalja elements to the Seti > Sittaceni > Sadducee line from the Crimea, where the Scute-relatedCrim-branch Croms easily traced, and here we have a Kupe surname clearly linking to Caiaphas-suspect Cuppae elements. It's helping to prove that the Sitteceni trace both to Sitlers / Sandle's and Sadducees. Plus, I traced the "RENfrew" of the Pollocks to "RENNES," and found Pollocks at the de-Pole surname of Foix-CANDALE, ruling at Foix smack beside Rennes-le-Chateau.
If that's not enough, the Caiaphas line was found already at Rennes-le-Chateau from several updates ago, and was found to be the bottom of the da-Vinci cult at its Magdalene church. This church was built by a Sander-suspect SAUNiere surname. It therefore appears that Masonry is all tracing back to the Seti line through the Sittaceni.
The Grimbridge variation of Crims had traced to Grimaldi's who use yet more lozenges.
On Pula's inhabitants:
Greek tradition attributed the foundation of Polai to the Colchians, mentioned in the context of the story of Jason and Medea, who had stolen the golden fleece. The Colchians, who had chased Jason into the northern Adriatic, were unable to catch him and ended up settling in a place they called Polai, signifying 'city of refuge'.That quote implies that Pula was a major / central settlement of Colchians, and while that may be true as even the surname traces above to Caucasia may indicate, I have grave doubts in defining "Pula" as "city of refuge." The Apollo cult was in Pula, and there's no persuading me that "Pollock" traces to anything but "Pole(land)." The Mieszko's from the Maezaei down the Adriatic coast from Istria.
At this point, my trace of Jupiter and Juno to the side-by-side rivers of the Kupa and Una seems important, for while the Japodes are placed on the map at the Kupa, the Maezaei are beside the Una (or Oeneus). As the Maezaei traced to the Meshwesh out of Tanis, which went through Perseus at JOPPA, it is very suggestive of the Maezaei at the JAPodes theater. The timing of the origin of Jupiter is something I've not yet studied. He is located as far back as the founding of the mythical Romans, but that system of mythology wasn't created until the first Roman Caesars (a couple of generations BC). It doesn't at all mean that "Jupiter," as a term and deity, existed at the founding of Rome around 750 BC.
In Wikipedia's article on Jupiter: "Faced by a period of bad weather endangering the harvest during one early spring, King Numa resorted to the scheme of asking the advice of [Jupiter] by evoking his presence. He succeeded through the help of Picus and Faunus, whom he had imprisoned by making them drunk." Note the Picus and Faunus duo, suggesting the Mars-related Picensii and Pan satyrs together (Mars was given a woodPECKER = picus symbol). Already we have reason to trace proto-Jupiter to Zeus elements in Pannonia and/or on the Pek / Margus rivers.
Who was Numa in Roman make-up? The Nimo surname is properly, NewMARSH/ NewMARCH (i.e. Margus/Marcus-like), and uses a saltire with symbols all in colors reversed to the Pike/Picken saltire. The Nimo's/Newmarsh's were first found in the same place (Stirlingshire) as Guiscards, who use the Latter / Orr piles tracing to Lederata. I started to stress the Bois/Boys surname after it showed up as "Boast," a term taken from the Nimo/Newmarch motto. Earlier in this update, it was said: "Entering "Poser" unexpectedly gets the Boast/Bois/Boys Coat" Is it not amazing how quickly heraldry can make links and clear up mysteries? Posers were entered seeking surnames that honored Passarowitz/Pozarevac, ancient the city of Margus...just an after-evening stroll from Lederata! Just like that, Numa is to be expected from the Transylvania theater, what Romans re-named, Romania.
There is a Picos/Picini/Picasso surname using the Kay/Key bird, important because Kays/Keys trace to Tut's mother (Kiya). Just like that, we have found two reasons already for tracing Jupiter elements to the Atun cult in the Lederata theater. And wasn't it found that Keturah's Atun elements passed through the Perseus cult at Joppa?
The Picos'/PICINI's were first found in Treviso (not far from the Brescia / PIACENza area), where there was a Silis river (now the Sile), and then the Kay/Key bird is used (as a robin) by Sullivans...who trace to the river of the Maezaei. Italian Angels were first found at Treviso too, and they use the Shield-and-Chief combination of Sanders/Senters, both of them colors reversed from the Shield-and-Chief combination of Ingels, thus making an Angel - Ingel link. Interesting here is that Ince's / Inch's use the Kay bendlets, suggesting an Ince = Ingle relationship. Clearly, the Ince's show as branch of Orr-related Orrels with torteaux tracing to the Sittaceni-related Toreatae, fellow Caucasians with the Sindi to which Sanders are expected to trace. And the "Latter Day Saints" code traces both to Lederata with the Orrs, and to the Sindi / Sintian bloodline. Sanders/Senters even use two thin chevrons in colors reversed to the two thin Ingel chevrons, in the color scheme of the Ince and Kay/Key bendlets.
Sorry to prolong the main line of argumentation, but it should be said that the "Nil" term of Irish Sanders (elephants) links to Neil/Nihill bloodline because the Angels/D'Angelo's link to the Nagle/Nail/Neil bloodline with "D'Angulo root. These Angels are suspect from Angitia, the snake goddess of the Marsi that I see as mythical Mars, the woodpecker that I see as code for the Piceni (some say online that the Piceni trace to "woodpecker").
Now, as we are clearly on the new-found Seti line to the Sittaceni in the root of Romans, have the Sithech term in mind to which the Shaws/Sheaves trace themselves, and then see from the 7th update of October, 2010: "We now have reason to suspect that the Angel surname links to Ingelger, and it appears to bear out thanks to the Inger link above to Shaws. For the English Angel Coat [version of the Nagle/D'Angulo Coat] uses three diamonds [= lozenges], a symbol of the Shaws/Sheaves [see also the Thicks/Thecks]. And the German Angel Coat (Pascal lamb) uses blue-on-white keys, the symbol of the Italian and Spanish Sheaves/Chaves (!!) that trace to the Shaws/Sheaves/Shaves." This is all king-Tut lineage through Seti to Sadducees, right? No doubt.
Numa was one of the mythical players created late (i.e. long after Jupiter was inserted retroactively into his life), a Sabine who married a daughter (Tatia) of Titus Tatius, now suspect from the king Tut line, the Atun cult. Go ahead, scratch thine head. It's amazing how the heraldry warlocks had it all worked out. One of Numa's sons was even PINarii, suggesting Macey-related Piners/Pender and similar terms from Pincum lines. Numa had a son-in-law, Marcus, if that helps, and the French Marcus surname was first found in the same place (Dauphine) as Pyne-suspect Payens. A Marici peoples on the Ticino must have lived there with the Laevi.
The Marcus lion is the Habsburg lion which gets us back to the Abbs/Apps and related Capes' and Ritters. In this picture, the Abbs/APPS and Habsburgs can trace with proto-Caiaphas terms to the island of Apsorrus (later Losinj).
As Penders are a Pendragon line, it require's the re-mention of Faunus-suspect Vaughns using a version of the Pendragon chevron (in the colors of the Sander chevrons). Therefore, Jupiter, where he is linked closely to the Picus and Faunus (goat) cults, was linked to a Pan-satyr cult carried by the Piceni down by the Margus and Pek rivers. It all verifies that proto-Romans came from Moesia to the Illyrian theater of the Japodes, and before that from the Aenus location (mouth of the Hebros) beside the APSinthii. YS even helped to link the Nimo-related Bois'/Boasts to the Fauns.
The earliest temple to Jupiter, on Capitoline hill, was build by a mythical ruler, meaning that there probably wasn't a temple to Jupiter at all...by which I mean to say that the god's name was not yet invented in the time period cited for the mythical builder. Wikipedia's article on this temple shows photographs of its foundations, but how do we know that it was built originally to Jupiter? The name of CAPITOline hill in Rome could be from the CAPUTO variation of the Capua surname, after the Capua location (not far from the Picentini mountains) said to be founded by mythical Capys. This could be the line to the Apps / Capes bloodlines now tracing to Caiaphas elements in Istria...smack beside the Japodes (albeit the Japodes could be imagined easily all over Istria). Wikipedia's Capitoline article: "The city legend starts with the recovery of a human skull (the word for head in Latin is CAPUT)..."
I can't find one historical (non-mythical) statement concerning the first temple of Jupiter, albeit I haven't given the effort much time. However, the second temple, built to Iuppiter Stator, seems legit in 294 BC, when mythical ruling characters were no longer in effect. It was built by MARCUS ATILius Regulus. Interesting here is that he warred against the MESSApians, "...'the most southerly of the Iapygian tribes'." The Messapians were in Apulia, and Iapyges, who smack of "Joppa" and even of a Japode-Pek mix (Japodes were also "Iapydes"), can be traced to a IaPYX, a son of a mythical Cretan, Daedalus. Recall that the Pula location in Istria traced to Cretans of the SERBIAN kind, and then Capitoline hill had a SERVIAN well the name of which can trace to "Servitium." "Pula" even smacks of "Apulia." In this picture, the Pek river may link to Iapyx's domain, which I assume was "PUGlia," the other name of Apulia.
It just so happens that the Sabines, whose Quirites cult is trace-able to the Curetes of Crete, and therefore to Zeus, the proto-Jupiter, were the inhabitants of Capitoline hill. They arrived to the hill after the "Rape of the Sabine Women." It gives the impression that Jupiter was a Sabine god transferred to Romans. The god is tracing on the one hand to the Daedalus > Iapyx line, and on the other to the Sarpedon > Serb line.
On the dating of Japodes: "Archaeological documentation confirms their presence in these countries [between the Una and Kupa] at least from ninth century BC, and they persisted in their area longer than a millennium...The exact origin of early Iapydes is uncertain; archaeological documentation suggests mixed affinities to early Pannonii and Illyrians. The first written mention of an Illyrian tribe Iapydes by Hekataios is from early Greek navigators from the 6th century BC." So why don't historians trace Jupiter to the Japodes? There must be a cover-up taking place. Do you know that the American Illuminati traces itself/themselves to Roman senatorial democracy?
The original religion of Iapydes is scarcely known...They knew the divine pair of water-deities Vidassus (as Roman Sylvanus) and Thana (as Roman Diana), whose rocky reliefs persist today at some springs in their area. They worshiped the holy horse as their tribal totem, and also the holy snakes as the symbol of their ancestors. Their early tombs were usually in caves...Linkage here to the Marsi snake goddess, to TranSYLVANia, and to Danaans looks possible. They look like Moesians and Paeoni from Tanis.
The white lamb was a special symbol of Jupiter, and may have evolved from the Atreus lamb symbol. I didn't know that Atreus' father (Pelops) had been married to Meshwesh, until the past few days, when he married the horse-loving Hippodamia family. I had the sense (years ago) that Iapyges (in Apulia) were Spartans of the Pollux kind, which helps to trace the Pula > Pollock line to "Pollux." Atreus became a Spartan entity, married to the family of Pollux that traces with his mother to Lederata.
Even the Pascals, using a white lamb, can be traced to Lederata if Pascals were a branch of Pace's/Pase's/Pascels...whom were traced to Passarowitz/Margus. Pascals can be deemed to use a cross in colors reversed to the same of Packers/Peckers (checks in the colors of Croatia's checks) and Macclesfields. I predicted that the lamb-like False Prophet would be a Massey / Meschin liner, but here it's now tracing to Jupiter elements in Moesia. A Jupiter cult with lamb at the helm of satan's empire is nothing more than a false Lamb of God. One can see satan's sons behind it.
The article goes on to say that the Japodes tattooed themselves, important because I identified blood-oath Pink elements with needles and tattoos, and leading to the end-time 666 "tattoo" governed and pushed by the False Prophet. The Stur-suspect Punch surname was included in this Pink bloodline. Sturs were first found in Hampshire, where Atreus' Atrebates lived. The Punch Coat also has the look of the Cameron/Guillonies/Sorlies Coat (Julians?), perhaps important where a Cameron surname is now the British prime minister. Although the Cameron arrows can be traced to the proto-Hungarians, they are the Rothschild arrows, and Rothschilds have enough billions to destroy themselves along with the rest of Babylon. End Insert]
I apologize that due to the many inserts in this update, I've pushed the Keturah-satyr investigation once again into the next update. That investigation continues the Payen - Pek investigation too.While the following story is not necessarily prophecy important, I thought you might like to read on it. I've read that no one has seen Hillary for weeks. I don't have access to television where I'm now staying, so don't know whether she's been making public appearances. This online conspiracy story caught my eye that could bode hell for Obama if it's what I think it is. The article is dated December 31:
"A new Foreign Military Intelligence (GRU) report circulating in the Kremlin today is saying that United States Secretary of State Hillary Clinton was injured, and a top US Navy Seal Commander killed when their C-12 Huron military passenger and transport aircraft crash landed nearly 3 weeks ago in the Iranian city of Ahvaz near the Iraqi border."...The US Navy Seal member reported killed in this bizarre incident, this report says, was identified as Commander Job W. Price [photo 3rd left] who as a leader of this highly specialized American Special Forces unit protects high-ranking diplomats traveling in Middle Eastern and Asian combat zones.
Curiously, US media reports on Commander Price's death say it being investigated as a possible suicide as he died from what the American Defense Department describes as "a non-combat related injury."
Equally as curious, US media reports state that Secretary Clinton will return to work next week after her having suffered what they describe as a "nasty bout with stomach flu" and a "concussion" which have kept her missing from public view the past three weeks [more recent than this article, we learned that she has a brain clot according to a doctor's report].
...Within minutes of leaving Bahrain airspace, this report says, the C-12 Huron carrying Secretary Clinton and her US Navy Seal protectors, "without notice," deviated from their assigned flight path heading, instead, directly towards Iran's Ahwaz International Airport where, coincidentally, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad had previously landed on an "unscheduled" visit.
Important to note, GRU analysts say in this report, was that when the C-12 Huron entered into Iranian airspace neither American nor Iran air force units responded clearly indicating that this secret mission was sanctioned.
...UPDATE: State Department denies Hillary was injured in a plane crash.
UPDATE: ABC News has reported on a U.S. plane making an emergency landing in Iran approximately 17 days ago.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2973902/posts
I can imagine Obama wanting her dead before she needs to appear before a Benghazi investigation panel. What would it take for a president to rig a plane for a crash? I suppose there is a military group that a dictatorial president can muster to look after such "political solutions." Other dictators have them, have could Obama not have at least one of his own? Am I saying that Obama is a murderer? Oh, yes, definitely. He had his people killed in Benghazi, there is no doubt about it, and because I am not a reporter nor a politician, I can speak my mind as they cannot do, publicly.
At first, people (including me) were led to believe that Hillary was faking a concussion at Obama's orders to avoid the investigation; now it may be that she had a head injury after all, but with Obama seeking to keep her from showing up at the investigation. However, until this story is verified, I cannot say one way or the other whether it's true. It sounds correct in most of its parts, but the story has Hillary suffering a concussion on the plane, on the 14th, a few days after she already claimed to have had a concussion elsewhere. It's a hard story to buy.
If the story is true, Hillary supporters will need to take another hard look at who Obama really is. Did he try to kill Hillary, will be the question lingering. Perhaps the best evidence that the story is true is this online statement:
The commander of an elite U.S. Navy SEAL unit has died in Afghanistan, the Defense Department said on [December 23], and a U.S. military official said his death was being investigated as a suspected suicide.Commander Job Price, 42, of Pottstown, Pennsylvania, died on Saturday of a non-combat related injury in central Afghanistan's Uruzgan Province, the Pentagon said in a statement.
"This incident is currently under investigation," it said.
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/u-navy-seal-dead-afghanistan-reported-suicide-011143310.html
Let's assume that the story of the crash in Iran was concocted by the Kremlin after this Price story broke the news on December 23 (the plane crash occurred "almost three weeks ago" as of December 31). Are we to believe that the Russians reporting the crash took this suicide story and abused it to suggest fraudulently that Job Price died in the plane crash instead? If the Russians are making it all up, then they have the time of crash coinciding exactly with the disappearance of Hillary from public view. Making up this story and publicizing it could make sense if the Russians were trying to mock the Obama administration for keeping Hillary away from the Benghazi investigation using a concussion fabrication. But would the Kremlin do such a thing, make up a story like that, and have it circulated, just to mock Obama?
In the Benghazi scandal, one or more the bodies of the dead victims were not shown to the families. How can the military get away with that? How can the military own the bodies to the extent of burying them without allowing the parents / spouse's to see the bodies? If Price was really shot, then his wife would see it...if, big if now, the military allows her to see the body.
The way that the Kremlin could discover the crash at the airport is through the Iranian administration, with which we can suppose there is open dialogue. The GRU, Russia's foremost spy agency in foreign lands, not only knew that the plane deviated from its Baghdad destination, but knew that Ahmadinejad had landed at the same airport where the American plane was headed. In this scenario, in which there was a secret meeting between Obama and Ahmadinejad, Russia could not expect to get the straight truth on the crash from Iran, if Iran felt obligated to protect Obama.
The problem for the Russia-is-fabricating-it scenario is this article of December 31: "Yesterday [Dec 30], ABC News via AP reported on an emergency landing of a U.S. plane in Iran more than two weeks ago...The plane was forced to land 16 days ago [Dec 14] at the airport of the southern city of Ahvaz due to technical failure, Mahmoud Rasoulinejad, head of the state-owned Iran Airports Company, told the TV station."
http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com/2012/12/abc-news-report-on-emergency-landing-of.htmlRussia wasn't making it up, was it? But wait. Maybe there was a crash but neither Hillary nor Price were in the plane, and the Russians are using the crash to fabricate their story in order to humiliate Obama. But I have doubts about that. The article above makes a good comment: "It was not clear why the announcement of the plane's landing was not made earlier." It's what we would expect in an Obama cover-up. Iran was covering for Obama. Believe it or not?
Then, when the story from Iran broke on December 30, it appears that the Iranians have fabricated their story to the point that Russia's story looks true to the best of their ability to explain it. "A separate report by [Iranian] state TV said the Falcon-900 plane [Russians reported a military-passenger plane that the Iranians could not report if they needed to protect Obama] had one passenger and two crew members ["proves" that Hillary was not in the plane] and was flying to Rotterdam in the Netherlands from Abu Dhabi in United Arab Emirates when it encountered mechanical difficulties." One might easily prove or disprove Iran's version by contacting Rotterdam or the people who run the Falcon 900, unless Obama arranged for them to act as his insiders. It's not as hard as you may think because Obama has lots of people to appeal to for such solutions; he just needs to ask them to do him a favor to keep a vital top-secret mission from getting loose. Even an angel would play along for that.
If there was an agreed-to meeting between Hillary and Ahmadinejad, we would expect the state-controlled media in Iran to report a falsehood to discredit the GRU report. But wait. I don't think the GRU report was out until the day after the Iran airport guy told his side of the story to Associated Press. What does that mean? If the GRU report had come out first as we have received it from the EU Times, then the Iranians would not have come out afterward with the story they fed us. They probably wouldn't have said anything. But where Iran came out with a fabrication on December 30 to protect Obama, the Russians either puked or had a great laugh, and on the next day gave the real story. That makes sense.
Is there any clout to Hillary's new claim:
However, NBC television's medical correspondent Robert Bazell was skeptical about the blood clot being caused by an earlier concussion because, he said, it if were, it would not be treated with anti-coagulents. "So either it's not really related to the concussion and she's got a blood clot in her leg or something, or there's something else going on that we're not being told."http://www.disclose.tv/forum/hillary-clinton-rescued-by-iranians-from-plane-crash-t82624-10.html
By now, she and her closest supporters might be protecting her from Obama's hit squad. She probably started to despise Obama the day of, or the day after, the crash. Perhaps she entered the hospital as soon as she heard the Iran fabrication, knowing that Obama even got the Iranians to lie for him. She chose a hospital in New York, where she has millions of fans to protect her from O-creepy-crawlers; perhaps half the hospital staff there are her worshipers.
The crash was either bad enough to make one SEAL die, or if it wasn't, he was taken from the airport and shot by Obama's insiders to keep him from telling what he knew or thought about the crash. If his body is witnessed by others with a bullet would received while still alive, that's the version of the truth I'd take.
How did the Russian spies know that Price was in the plane too? Are they that good? How did they know the flight schedules of U.S. military planes? Moles? Who told the Russians that Hillary was unconscious and bleeding if Iran was not giving the goods to Russia? Yet, if we mistrust Russia's story, wouldn't a wild fabrication on its part signal to both Iran and the United States that Russians are brutal liars, the very opposite image that Putin wishes to paint worldwide for himself?
The Iranian airport spokesman dates the crash on December 14. Can we even trust that date? Might the crash have been a few days earlier when the Hillary people reported a concussion? It's all too bizarre to get a real concussion on the day before she's scheduled for the Benghazi hearing, unless someone was trying to silence her for ever. Would Obama be so stupid as to kill her one day before the Benghazi hearing? You know, I really don't know the answer to that one.
Another scenario is that there was no crash with Hillary in the plane, but she arranged for the fake story to get out so that her voting block (every ounce of which she may need in 2016) would believe her concussion story after all.
When was Hillary last seen? Some say the 10th, the day before the hearing. The article directly above:
She was first reported to have come down with flu and, three days later, on Dec, 9, with a stomach bug. On Dec. 10, the day before she was due to testify before the Senate Intelligence Committee on the September 11 terrorist attack on the US Consulate in Benghazi...the State Department...announced that Clinton had sustained a concussion after fainting out from dehydration....According to another unofficial report, she was apparently working from home [after the concussion]. No one in the office appeared to have been delegated her functions...Then, Friday, Dec. 21, President Barack Obama announced the nomination of Massachusetts Senator John Kerry as next Secretary of State.
Okay, so it can be true that she and Obama were making up the concussion story to keep her from participating in the Benghazi question period. It may be true that she wasn't even in the country at that time, as debkafile, which I don't trust much, has reported, saying that she was already on secret official O-business at the time of her flu and concussion. But whatever, around at that time or earlier, Obama must have decided to sent her quietly to the Middle East...to her death. Either that, or her plane actually suffered an accidental malfunction. By the way, if there is truth to this Hillary visit to see Ahmadinejad, Obama is now under his thumb as a blackmail patient. At any time, Ahmadinejad can spill the beans if Obama misbehaves.
Let's take the worst-case scenario. Obama had quite a few weeks to arrange the heartless deed starting after the election, when Benghazi had by then become his firestorm. You understand that if the Benghazi truth could ruin Obama, a living Hillary no longer under his thumb as of January would be a dangerous threat. She should know too much about Obama's plots worldwide, and she didn't like them and/or him much because she gave her notice to Obama well in advance that she would not be serving him a second term. Probably, very few people knew she was in Bahrain, perhaps even on a vacation there. Likely, very few people knew that the Navy SEAL Team 4, who flew into Bahrain from Afghanistan (acting as her body guards, I assume), then boarded a plane with Hillary, were on their way to see Ahmadinejad. This scenario all depends on whether the GRU report was factual.
The GRU report: "Upon the C-12 Huron landing at Ahwaz, however, this report says it encountered 'extreme turbulence' causing it to leave the runway where its main landing gear then collapsed causing it to crash." However the Russians obtained this information, it had to be from witnesses at the airport, and therefore GRU had to decide on what witnesses were telling the best truth. If the Iranians gave the Russians "the truth," I wouldn't vert fast believe it. To me, severe turbulence causing a landing gear to not remain rigid seems not to be the best truth. If the landing gear was supposed to fail -- and maybe the Russians knew it but didn't want to say it publicly -- then we don't need the severe turbulence to explain it.
Of all the flights that this plane had in the past, this was the first time, likely, that it's landing gear fell in. That's one way of looking at it to suggest another O-murder plot. And we know there was an O-motive, to keep Hillary quiet.
Let's assume that there was only one concussion, on the 10th, the day of the crash (the AP report from GRU didn't give a date other than "nearly 3 weeks ago" from the end of December). Okay, so Hillary awakes from the concussion at the crash, and after being told why the plane crashed, while still in her hospital bed or in the emergency-team bed, she started to ask something like: "Was it a coincidence that the landing gear failed just this one time...when I was on the plane?" Could you see a concrete wall developing between her and Obama at that question? Do you think she was scared while the plane spun out of control or slid along on the ground? It gives us an idea of how she's been feeling between the crash and now.
No one but her closest associates and family (perhaps not even Obama) know what she did between the 15th and the 30th, but we may presume repeated contact with doctor(s), until on the 31st she entered a New York hospital supposedly nursing a pain or threat behind her ear and adjacent to her brain.
In Iraq, al-Sadr, a Shi'ite, is actually supporting the Sunni demonstrations which could evolve into uprisings. The tide is turning against Maliki, who is now blaming "foreigners" for the demonstrations. I'll keep an eye on this.
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Ladon Gog and the Hebrew RoseOn this page, you will find evidence enough that NASA did not put men on the moon.
Starting at this paragraph, there is a single piece of evidence -- the almost-invisible dot that no one on the outside was supposed to find -- that is enough in itself to prove the hoax.
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