As expected, the National Security Agency, the American spy network beloved by Obama, paid off / bribed a company promising computer security for the public against outside infiltration of spyware, etc.. For a measly 10 million dollars, chump change for the American government, RSA agreed to allow the National Security Agency a free-pass (backdoor) entry into computers that have downloaded the RSA security package. This was to be expected, but people need to go to jail for this, especially the NSA people, including one Obama. The destruction of the public trust of government is the downfall of a nation.
In other words, when you purchase a computer-protection software package, regardless of what company offers it, you could be worse off because the owners may be corrupt, selling the program first to you, then selling would-be snoopers the ability to bypass the program's security features. It's easy as pie. The greater the number of buyers of the programs, the more the companies can raise their prices for backdoor-entry secrets. You can predict that very nice backdoors will be built, more elaborate than the front doors, until there are parties going on at the back-door patios.
The Clinton administration embraced the Clipper Chip, envisioned as a mandatory component in phones and computers to enable officials to overcome encryption with a warrant.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/12/20/us-usa-security-rsa-idUSBRE9BJ1C220131220
Translation: the government has wanted, from the beginning of the Internet, to force the purchase of computers coming ready-made from the factory for government snooping. It was as predictable as a rich man decking out his back patio with a swimming pool, anticipating long all-night parties. Can you image all the ramifications of hundreds of thousands of government snoops who, of course, cannot be trusted with this sort of power? Think of the abuse in regards to political infighting at all government levels, small police departments galore spying on local community leaders, mistresses, spouses. Blackmail everywhere. And what about the plots of Illuminatists and other Christ-haters against Christians? The NSA is leading the way to a world like that. Obama, the master of lip service, will re-assure the people that nothing's going on, that the splashing we hear over the privacy fence is not really a pool party thrown for all the world's elite computer crashers.
The article goes on to suggest that RSA was an angel, fighting against government intrusions into its no-compromise protection policies. But I'm not fooled. These companies need to make it appear as though they are on the right side of the public. Once that has been achieved, they sell backdoor tickets to any shady bloke who has enough cold hard cash. That's just the way of the business world. You've got to expect it. There are doctors who would sell your heart if they could get away with it. It's just the way of this modern, Godless world. There is no hope for this world; the bugs are eating away at the sinews as we speak.
Who, but the people controlling the Internet, including trolls in the Obama government, would be more likely to create money-thieving scams using computers? Think about the possibilities for taking money from bank accounts of anyone who has shopped online with a card, then blaming it on unknown thieves, when in fact the thieves are globalists in bed with Google, etc...who have designed the scam to be a "perfect crime" in which nobody can get caught. Things like this could be coming. Look for the small signs. You wake up one day to discover that thieves have electronically removed a quarter of everyone's bank account.
Boston police is a corrupt agency that conducted the Boston Marathon hoax with the FBI. And so read about an internet scam that involves oversight from, of all places, the FBI in Boston:
BOSTON (CBS) -- It is being called the perfect crime and it has law enforcement around the globe baffled.
It all starts with a simple email.
...Kevin Swindon is with the FBI in Boston.
..."In the past 90 days, thousands of people worldwide have opened a seemingly innocuous link to track a holiday package. Suddenly, all the files on their computer are encrypted.
..."This is a criminal operation. They are holding your folders and files ransom. We call this ransomware because that is exactly what it is. You need to pay in order to have access to them once again."
...As the ransomware takes over your computer, a countdown clock appears and shows victims how long they have to pay up. That means purchasing a key, or software, to reverse the process. And victims must do that using the online virtual currency known as bitcoins.
"Once you have purchased a bitcoin, then the transaction that you use that bitcoin in is encrypted, and therefore you cannot trace it," explained Goodchild.
Swindon says it appears to be the perfect crime.
The FBI [in bed with the Boston police in the marathon hoax] tells WBZ-TV they are very worried [or happy] about this spreading in 2014.
The scheme could be the work of organized gangs overseas [that's what they said about the marathon's suspects]. So far, no one has been caught [no surprise if it's an inside job].
http://boston.cbslocal.com/2013/12/18/cryptolocker-ransomware-being-described-as-the-perfect-crime/
You can't expect me to believe that, with the FBI abilities to snoop on computers, that no one has been caught. It's a scam involving the FBI, pure and simple. And that's why it's a perfect crime, because the FBI won't prosecute.
So, uh, who created the bitcoins? Wouldn't the Mafia love to have access to them? No one supposedly knows who created them, but the creators want us to believe that Orientals did so. We know that the American government wouldn't allow anything like this, unless government people are using it. One cannot drop a large amount of cash into a bank any longer without the bank making special note of it, forced to do so by governments as a method of checking criminal activity. How then, can we expect bitcoins to be anything but a government-sponsored system? Big media have tarnished the bitcoin reputation, exactly what we would expect if it was created by Illuminatists in political circles. They want us to think that shady groups are behind bitcoins.
Working Out Some Luce Ends
The last update seemed to find the birth of Caiaphas from a Caepio family. I just want you to know in case you missed it. I'm going to hammer away at this theory in this update. The update starts as a continuation of the Geddes topic of a couple of weeks ago, before the discovery of the Caepio's, but then concentrates again on Caepio-suspect lines. It at first suspects a Siward character from Northumberland, and in the end it comes up with some undeniable surprises to reveal who he was merged with. Siward was more important than we would ever guess, and he's the line to Obama's mother. Watch and see.
In case you get tired of reading, or haven't the time, I just want to say that, the near-end of this update uncovers the mystery of the gold bars of Rennes-le-Chateau. At least, it reveals that the gold bars of Quintus Caepio are behind the mystery. But, no, it doesn't find the location of the gold bars, sorry.
If correct that Geds and Luce's were from the two sons of SEPTimius Severus, one might suspect that Septimania, the home of Magdalene hoax at Rennes-le-Chateau, was named after his family. Certainly, where the Da-Vinci blockheads trace Jesus' sons to Merovingians, the Lace > Lys line applies very well as the chief suspect for creating the hoax. Siward is going to trace exactly to VINKovci, the location from which "Vinci" is suspect. Watch and see.
While I think the evidence has already been found sufficient to prove that Lacys evolved into Luce's, no evidence has been found to prove the Ged's originating in emperor Geta. It's a logical idea, and likely correct, but no evidence has presented itself. If correct, then I imagine we can't trace Geds (proto-Geddes' surname) to the Gaetuli, unless Geta was a Gaetuli liner. The fact that the Lacys use purple strongly suggests that the Gaetuli, purple dye makers, are behind the Ged(de)s. The Geddes claim to be identical to Luce's. The following was not included in the recent update on the topic: the father of Caracalla's father was Publius Septimius GETA.
Geta was of Libyco-Berber origin. His ancestry had been based in Leptis Magna (southeast of Carthage, Africa, modern Libya, North Africa)...
Geta's father Lucius Septimius Severus (c. 70 - aft. 110)...Geta's mother Vitoria, born c. 85, was a daughter of Marcus Vitorius Marcellus (c. 60 - aft. 105), Consul Suffectus in 105, and wife Hosidia, born c. 65 and daughter of Gaius or Gnaeus Hosidius Geta. Geta's paternal grandparents were Marcus Septimius Aper, born c. 35, and wife Octavia. He also had a sister named Septimia Polla, born c. 110
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Publius_Septimius_Geta_(father_of_Septimius_Severus)
That can definitely trace Geta's to the Gaetuli. Hosidius Geta was a Roman general, and as such he may go back to the elite commanders surrounding king Massena (about 200 BC), when the latter betrayed Carthage and joined the Romans. One or more Gaetuli men from the Massena side of the alliance may have become Roman commanders, in other words. But as Geta was a Roman line, it could also have furnished the future Guidi, especially as the Roman commanders in Massena's turn-coat event had been in northern Italy near the Bologna home of the Guidi.
For the first time, a Gettel surname has been found with an interesting revelation, that the Gard / Gardner surnames are from emperor Geta, or at least merged with his lines. This gets extremely important where Lawrence Gardner wrote a book on the Magdalene hoax, and where Gardners are a branch of Capes' and Kaplans. It has the potential to link Quintus Caepio, thief and owner of the gold bars, to the Geta bloodline. It's just as was being argued in the last update, that Caracalla was a Caepio liner, and thus possibly in charge of protecting the gold bars.
The way to reason this out is to recall that Yonge's were related to Gards and Caracalla-related Carricks. Then, the Gettels are shown properly with Gart terms, indicating the possibility that Gaetuli Numidians became Gards. The Gettel/Gartson Coat has BLUE, crowned ravens: "A silver shield with three blue birds beaked and membered red, each wearing a gold crown and holding a gold annulet in their dexter paw." You are going to see a grand revelation on Paw- bloodline involvement in the blue-apple riddle out of Rennes-le-Chateau lore. The paw is in the Quintus Crest, already explaining why Paw liners should be involved in the gold-bar treasure.
The sentence doesn't use "dexter" just because. Anything using "dexter" is suspect at the Ticino river, home of the Laevi. The last update taught us that the Livius family, which married the family of Quintus Caepio, used BLUE as a theme...because Wikipedia informs us falsely that "Livius" is rooted in a term meaning "blue." It was my opinion that the blue theme tacked to this family was code for the Blois location and blue-Shielded surname. You will later see that Blois is all about the blue apples. I didn't know it while writing here, however.
The Gettel variations using "Gertz / Gerts" suggest kinship with the Hertz's, a "Jewish" surname. All three Hertz Coats use BLUE Shields. The Here's and Hertzogs both using BLUE wings in Crest. You can't fail to see the blue theme. God informed tribwatch readers that the Caepio surname was represented with a blue lion, and here we are seeing a blue theme from the Livius' that Caepio's married. It's compelling. I had no intention of mentioning anything on the Caepio's when starting this section with the Gettel/Gartson surname, and here we are, linking a Gaetuli-suspect line smack at Caiaphas' feet.
It was predicted that Caiaphas was born from a Gaetuli line. The prediction was in the first update of this month, BEFORE I discovered Quintus Caepio, who quickly became suspect as the ancestor of Caiaphas.
Late in the last update, the angel used by the Blois' was linked to Achilles' ankle, so to speak. It was the ANKLE surname from Achilles lines leading right to the Cilnius entity at the feet of Annas, the co-killer of Christ with Caiaphas. It was pointed out in passing that an ANGEL (holding a dragon's head) is used by the English Blois surname. We are going to see Siward, an Anglo, suggestively tracing to Caepio lines. Try to imagine the far political / royal reach of a family possessing 50,000 gold bars. We would expect that family all over the royal-European map. It makes the Caiaphas line supreme, does it not? What common king could dream of having that much gold? I wonder who had it before Caepio found it.
It's the French Blois Coat that uses a blue Shield. The surname was first found in Orleans, what the French call, OrleANAIS, as if the Annas line had to do with its naming. The Orrs/Ore's and Orells trace without doubt to the Orlean surname, but so does the SEPTon/Saxon surname, apparently, for it looks like a version of the Orell Coat. This is excellent, because Lucius Septimius Bassianus (= Caracalla) was renamed "Aurelius" as per his throne name, a term that traces well to "Orell."
The Arms of Saxony use GOLD BARS. It may not be coincidental, for we will find heraldic barry = bars in Blois kin.
Just like that, we have Caracalla tracing to the Blois and/or Livius bloodline, important because he was suspect, in the last update, as tracing from the Caepio family. These gold bars are suspect in creating the Templarite international bankers whom are viewed by some today as Illuminatists. It was suspect that the Luce's (= light) were responsible for the term, "Illuminati."
Goldman-Sachs is often linked to such international bankers, and so see another ANGEL in the Sach/Sax Crest, though officially it's a "woman in black". It appears here that the Sach's are related to the Saxons/Septons, thus linking Sachs' quite possibly to the Septimius line of Caracalla. It just so happens that the gold bars of Caepio were found in Toulouse, near Rennes-le-Chateau (in Septimania).
Another point is that "Annas" was traced to "Angus," and that this line looked to be from the Ankle bloodline, revealed in the last update as part of the snake cult that named Angitia, goddess of the Marsi who turned into the Marici allies of the Laevi on the Ticino. They built Pavia, a city also known as "Papia," which I trace to "Peebles" in Scotland, right beside Lothian, home of the Rosslyn chapel that I suspect was built by, and perhaps for secretly housing, the gold bars of Caepio. Scottish Bowers, sharing the five Rothschild arrows and the green Shield of German Bauers, were first found in Peebles-shire, and the Bauer > Rothschild family become suspect by me as becoming rich from those gold bars. German Bauers use yet another blue wing.
The last update showed reason for "Segni" being the S-term that named the Ticino. However, I had previously gleaned that king Taksony of Hungary was involved in naming the river, which was also the "Tesson" river, you see. But as Caracalla was traced to the Segni/Segurana surname, shouldn't we expect "SAXONY" to be a term related to the Ticino's naming? It appears that there was a Segni > Saxony evolution of terms, all having to do with a link to Septimius Severus.
The Angus' were also "Innus" and "Innis," like the Inis variation of the Ince's and Inch's who use a Coat similar to that of Orrels and Saxtons/Septons. I think that this clinches the close link of Caracalla's family to both Caiaphas and Annas. I'm not forgetting that Caiaphas traced convincingly, in several respects months before I discovered Quintus Caepio, to Rennes-le-Chateau. There in the Caracalla family there appears to be the secret behind Rennes-le-Chateau's treasure.
As per the annulet held by the blue Gettel raven, I now know it to be a symbol of Annas' and related Letts (Shield-and-Chief color combination in colors reversed to that of the Bruce form of the Annandale saltire). A raven with an annulet is a common heraldic symbol, clever because Letts trace to "Leto," mother of Apollo, founder of the raven/crow.
The Bend surname uses both besants (gold roundels) as code for the Bassianus line of Caracalla, and torteaux (red roundels) as code, perhaps, for Tortona, not far from Pavia. The Inch's, Orrs, Orells, and Orleans share torteaux in common, but the Orells, Ince's, Ince's and Saxtons/Septons all use so-called bendLETS. Instead of red roundels, Saxons/Septons use red CHAPlets. You can't deny the reality here, that emperor Caracalla was from the Caepio bloodline.
Whose blue lion is in the Bend Crest? Shouldn't it be the Caepio lion, owned by Bruce's of Yorkshire? Why were Bends first found in the same place (Lancashire) as Saxons/Septons and Orells? Isn't it true that Bends (suspect as Ban(t), father of LANCElot) were Caracalla lines out of Yorkshire, forming the Saxons/Septons too? That should explain the white roses (York symbol) of the Sach's/Sax'.
But white roses, in the colors of the Sach/Sax roses, are in the Chief of the Etienne Coat, and then Etienne's and Chaplets (FIVE swans) were both first found in Lorraine. It appears that Severus lines were indeed at St. Etienne. Moreover, Etienne's use silver billets while a billet is defined as a bar of metal. Quintus Caepio also found silver bars with his gold-bar treasure. Heraldry uses only two metalic colors, silver and gold, and then it is a wonder that Bars of Bar-le-Duc were likewise in Lorraine. It must be a coincidence. But I do not think that it's coincidental that the Etienne Coat looks like a version of the CHAPut/Capus Coat. It looks like the gold (or at least silver) bars were at St. Etienne. Who brought then there?
Suppose we found a Coat using silver and gold bars together? I can tell you this: GARTers, first found in the same place as Seagers, use a Shield filled with gold and silver checks.
If it proves not to be true that "Gard" is a term from "Gaet(uli)," and if the Gard-like variation of the Gettels reveals only a Gard merger with Gaetuli elements, then perhaps "Gard" is from "Gratian," father of Valentinian I. This is said because I've just found "falcons VOLANT" in the Garty/Geraty Coat. The dexter code is shared by both Gartys/Geratys and Gettels/Gardsons.
There is a Ribble river flowing from Yorkshire through Lancashire, and Yorkshire is where Caracalla was proclaimed the emperor, and where purple-lion Lacys were first found. Scottish Bruces seem to be using a blue-purple lion in their Crest. Bends are using the Bruce lion, aren't they?
How did Bruce's get to be the kings of Scotland, anyway? As their lion traces to the Caepio family, doesn't it suggest that Bruce's may have gotten a few gold bars? A few gold bars is all it takes to lift a family to the kings court, awaiting a crack at the throne. The Bruce lion traces to the Livius-suspect Louvains, who also use a blue lion, from a Jocelyn of Louvain in Belgium:
...at the time of the elder Robert [Bruce]'s death in 1141, the Skelton Bruces [Yorkshire] bore the blue lion...We have noted also that Jocelyn de Louvain...came to England shortly afterwards and in 1154 married Agnes, one of the two co-heiresses of the huge Percy territories. His descendants also bore the blue lion rampant, but on a gold field, as his representer, the Duke of Northumberland, still does today...There is no surviving documentary evidence to explain why Jocelyn, a younger son, bore, as his descendants have always attested, Or a lion rampant Azure [= blue lion on gold). Beryl Platts has suggested that these were arms originally used by the Louvain family in the branch of Otto, senior grandson of Count Lambert I of Louvain, and that when Otto's line died out the arms moved sideways to a cadet branch, one that bore the surname Brus. Mrs Platts has proposed that this branch descends from a first cousin of Otto, which would place the later generations relatively close in blood to Maud, the Queen of David I, and could account for the especial favours David showered on the Bruce family in Scotland.http://www.houseofnames.com/brabant-family-crest
This Louvain family ruled BraBANT, and then while one Brabant surname (white roses) was first found in Kent, where Louvains were first found, French Brabants (sharing a Moor head with neighboring Chappes') were first found in Maine, where Caiaphas-suspect Josephs were first found, as well as where the Billets were first found who are in the colors of the Etienne billets.
Moreover, the Louvain marriage to PERCys looks like it has to do with the PERCHE area, beside Maine. Perche was home to Bellamys (they definitely link to the Billet surname), and then the Bend Coat roundels may be upon the Bellamy Shield. Percys (Yorkshire) share a string of FIVE gold lozenges with Ankle's and Marshalls, and thus trace to the Angitia entity of the Marsi.
Louvain in Belgium was also "Leuven," and then the Leuven surname uses bear paws, a symbol like the lion paw in the Quint Crest. That's important because it became undeniable that Quints were from Quintus Caepio. The Leuvens are also "Laufer," and then the Luff/Love Crest shares the fitchee cross with the Quint Crest. It means that, indeed, Louvains trace to the Livius family. It means we should expect Caepio elements in Louvain. We will see Siwald's son linking exactly to Louvain.
The Levi triple chevrons have already been found in use by the counts / county of HAINaut, part of the Brabant theater and suspect with "Annas / Annan." Italian Leuvens use a triple chevron too, in the colors of the same of Eure-et-Loir, a region between Perche and where the Chappes' and Levi's were first found. I've already shown how the Eure Coat is a version of the Hanan Coat.
It was the father of Quintus Caepio under discussion, who had the same name, who found the gold bars. The father was a Roman governor of northern Italy, and as such is expected by me to have had links to Brescia/Brixia, origin of the blue Bruce lion. I would not be surprised, though I would be very happy, to find that governor Caepio had some relations / associations with Valerius Gratus, the Roman governor of Judea who appointed Caiaphas to the high priesthood. The fact that the same red-on-white lion is used by both Luffs/Love's and Grate's begins to make that relationship possible, especially as the Grate's use the Rome/Room and August fesse colors. I call this the upright Levi lion.
I Traced "BRAbant" to a Bra location in the Montferrat theater, and therefore to the Brae/Bray surname (in Brugg colors) suspect with Bruggs/Bruge, Belgium. The Brae Coat uses black eagle legs/talons, a symbol in the August Coat. It turns out that the Brae/Bray Coat is a version of the Talon/Tallent Coat (gold-on-black colors of the Brabant lion), and that Irish Talons use black and gold bars, the symbol of the Arms of Saxony. Compare the Capone Coat to the Talon/Tallon Coat, and see the Capone star could be the one in the Etienne Crest. Capone's (and Chapmans) were first found in the same place (Cambridge) as Julians/Gillians.
The Luffs and English Blois' were first found in Suffolk, beside the Louvains and Brabants of Kent. English Blois' are traced in their write-up to the Blois location, in Loir-et-Cher (Blois is about 50 miles south-west of Orleans). That's roughly the Berry area of France where the so-called "barry" of heraldry ought to trace. Barry is when a Coat uses multiple bars, as for example the Luff Coat! Thus, it is very true, that the blue-portrayed Livius family traces to the blue-suspect Blois,' explaining the blue Louvain lion.
The Scottish Barry surname (Angus) uses barry in the Luff-barry colors, and the surname is haha traced to "rough, grassy hill." That's code for Grasse in southern France, where I tend to trace the Gratus surname. Didn't we just see a reason to link Valerius Gratus to the Luff's? The French Grass surname, first found in the same place (Provence) as Grasse, may be using a black version of the upright Louvain lion (both on gold Shields), which is in the two colors of the upright lion of Flanders. The Louvain rulers of Brabant used an upright lion in colors reversed to the Flanders / Grass lion.
If correct that Brabant is from Brae/Bray elements that use the Talon Coat, then it should be noted in passing that Garritts and Irish Talons were both first found in the same place (County Carlow). As we just saw Talons linking to Augusts who use the Rome/Room fesse, it should be repeated that latter use a Coat version of Grate's/Creights, terms like "Garritt."
French Grace's/Grasse's, likewise first found in Provence, use a so-called "royal-blue" Shield. Then, the Gros/Graut surname (Burgundy) uses a blue lion and a blue greyhound, obvious lovers of the blue color. The lion is in both Louvain-lion colors. The upright blue lion, in the colors of the Bruce lion, is in the CREIGHTon/Crichton Coat, and the motto phrase there is "send grace," evidence that the surname traces to "Grasse" or "Gratus" or even
"Gratian".
The "send" motto term made me recall that the Sand surname (Lancashire) uses Quint colors, but, better yet, I've just learned that Sands share the fitchee cross with them Quints. The Sand fesse (in Quint-fesse colors) is called, "ragully," and then just look at the paragraph below, which was written before this paragraph was inserted here.
German Barrys, who share a motto somewhat like that of Scottish Barrys, use a form of the Luce / Geddes fish heads, a very important find because it brings the topic right back to Caracalla. If you read my treatment on him, you know I traced the Geddes and Luce fish to the fish of the SARACA's because "CARACalla" looks like it applies. French Barrys even share a black talbot dog with Carricks. The Saraca's lived in RAGusa, and then the two Barry surnames above share a "REGi" motto term. This is absolute evidence that Caracalla was the father of the Luce's while his brother, Geta, was the father of Geddes'. The Barrys are suspect with the fish-using Bars / Baars of Bar-le-Duc.
Irish Sanders even use another "sibi" motto term (see last update for that term), which traces to Cibalae, home of Gratian. We just saw a "send" motto term of CREIGHTons. That looks like a clincher for tracing Crichtons to Gratian, but this does not at all discredit my old trace of Crichtons to Irish Cruithne, and earlier to Curetes of Crete, for the latter were the people of mythical Rhea, who traces to the city of RHAGae/Ray/Rey. I did suggestively trace Rhea to Ragusa.
Aha! As absolute proof that Sands are using a version of the Quint Coat, the Sanders above use the elephant-head design shown in the last update. I ran to see what surname used the elephants, and it turned out to be the Leaving/Lewin Coat...using the same-colored chevron as the Quints! Therefore, indeed, the Grace / Creight / Grate / Grass surnames all trace to Quintus Caepio, reinforcing the idea that Caepio lines were at the family of Gratian some four centuries after Quintus. If only we could prove that the same surnames trace to Valerius Gratus, if only.
The Valence location near Lyon should apply to Valentinian lines. Here's how. Beside Valence there is a Romans location, and then the Ukrainian Roman(ov) Coat uses roses in it's chief, a symbol also of the Etienne Chief, important because St. Etienne is directly across the river from Valence / Romans. The Shield-and-Chief color combination of the Ukrainian Romans is green and white, like the white-on-green roses of the Dutch Valence/Valentini Coat. The Italian Valetin Coat uses green-on-white squirrels.
Repeat: the Vaughns, suspect with the "Funerius" nickname of Gratian, use a Coat like the Valentine Coat.
Finally, while none of the above may include Valerius Gratus, there is a Valeria surname firstly found in Dauphine, an area that covered, I think, the Valence location. Valerius lines can be expected at St. Etienne because it is at mount Pilat.
The white roundels in the Sanders Chief are called "plates," possible code for Pilate lines. Pontius Pilate was the governor of Judea immediately after Valerius Gratus.
The red upright bull in the Sander/Senters' Crest is that also of the Charo's/Claro's, wherefore Sanders can be interpreted as a branch of Sinclairs/Saints/Suns, and should trace to Saintes (western France), founded by Santones. Canters look like they may apply.
The Swiss-German Senns are interesting for using the same-colored patee cross as Blois', and then Blois is not very far from the theater of the Santones and related Lemovices.
I just had a recollection. I had wanted to load a certain Coat earlier, but had forgotten to do so. When I saw the Senn Coat, I recalled it because it was similar. I had a difficulty recalling what Coat I had wanted to load, and then it came back: the Saunier!!! Excellent, such a coincidence. The Senns (Switzerland) are a branch of Saunier's, therefore, and it was a Sauniere surname that built the Magdalene church in Rennes-le-Chateau with money he should not have had. They say he raised the money by giving many masses, but that now sounds like horse radish. I'll bet he had some gold Caepio bars.
As the counts of Blois are going to become central to these gold bars, keep in mind that Senns uses a Blois-Coat symbol. Ask: why should Santones play a part in the gold bars?
Saunier's were first found in Perigord, smack beside the Santones and Lemovices. Therefore, Saunier's look like they derive in Santones. The SOLNEY location of the Sole surname is much like the SAULNIER variation of the Sauniers, and then the Sole's use vertical fish, the Luce symbol, suggesting that Caracalla lines (suspect with the gold bars) got to the Saunier family too.
I did not know while writing here that the Sole's/Solneys use a Shield on Shield like that of Knights, important because Knights are going to be discovered as a colors-reversed version of the counts of Blois.
Aha! The Sole chevron is in the colors of the triple chevrons of Sillys/Sullys, and then French Luce's use the same three chevrons...same red-on-white colors! We saw these triple chevrons in the Italian Leuvens whom are definitely tracing to the Caepio's. It's only been a few days since theorizing that Caracalla's family was the keeper of the gold bars, and here we just found his sons tracing to Rennes-le-Chateau...beside Foix, where the gold bars were found.
Gold weighs 20 times that of water; you don't lug 50,000 bars around, each at 15 pounds, easily. We might expect the bars to have be hidden in the Foix area for quite a long time.
It's an interesting concept that God foresaw the Caiaphas line coming to global power by the finding of the gold bars, but it only works of Caiaphas was a descendant of Quintus Caepio, and if Caiaphas knew where the stash was located. Let's assume that God saw, in advance, the Caiaphas line abusing the people of the world until a military Armageddon fell upon the planet as a result of lunatics in power. We could then speculate that God chose Caiaphas to murder His Son so that God could have recourse for destroying the Caiaphas Illuminati when He applies His input into the Armageddon event.
French Luce's were first found in the same place (Picardy) as the location of Catherine Roet, wife of John of Gaunt. He was ruling Candale at the time. There was a joint Foix-Candale entity that may have involved the family of John of Gaunt. Candale is near Gironde, smack beside the Saintes theater...suggesting that CANDale was a SANTones term. This again speaks to a Caracalla trace to Santones. I wonder why. The Caepio line traced hard to the Sands. I wonder why? John of Gaunt is famous for being the founder of the Lancastrian rose. Was he a Caracalla liner tasked with overseeing the gold bars in Candale? Is that where they had them shipped? Sands were first found in Lancashire (location of Lancaster). It looks like the Sands and Gaunts were one and the same peoples. See also the Sand-related Sandy Coat (dancette in Quint colors).
I got the impression that Mormons were involved here, but had not yet realized how close to Blois Mitt Romney's ancestry had been. Mitt Romney is a mega millionaire. I'll bet he's got a gold-laundering machine in his basement.
English Luce's were first found in Norfolk, where Seagers were first found whom Cibalae elements traced hard to. It was the Segni/Segurana and Sibal surnames that identified as Seagers of Norfolk, and so see the white Belgian Gand/Gend cross, for it's the same white moline cross showing in the Seagar Coat until last year, and the same moline design still shown for Italian Segni's/Segurana's. This paragraph tends to prove again that Caracalla birthed the Luce's.
What do you make of the curiosity that the Sole/Solney surname shows no variations using "Sub," and yet the surname is traced in its write-up to "SUBLigny"? Is that a Sibal term?
By what coincidence is there a Gandia location in Spain, where we find a Safor area suspect with the Severus surname of Caracalla. It again seems that Caracalla links to Santones, this time in Gandia. The Mormons (Latter Day SAINTES), who trace to Santones and to Lemovices, became so unexpectedly rich. Mormons honor a Lamanite peoples. Santones trace to Sintians of Lemnos, a metal-making location.
I suppose that metal makers had some gold in production as they could find it. I trace metal "smith" to "Sames," for the Kabeiri cult of Lemnos came out of Samothrace, named after the island of Samos. It just so happens that the visible founder of Mormons was a Smith surname who claimed he could see buried treasure in a special crystal (a rock) placed into his hat. He was arrested in 1826 for this scam, as people paid for his divination services. In 1827, he claimed to find gold plates with the Book of Mormon written upon them. My heart drops at the great number of fools who believed him then, but I have no pity for those who believe him today, for the truth about Joseph Smith is available in many books.
See last update for MontSEGUR, where the Vatican demolished (turned every rock over looking for gold bars?) the city of the Cathars as the latter supposedly escaped with an unknown treasure.
The Shield-and-Chief color combination of French Gands/Gants is that of the German Sanders. Ghents use this Shield-and-Chief color combination in colors reversed, verifying that Sands and Gants were one. Sands became a topic only due to the "send grace" motto phrase of blue-lion CREIGHTons/Crichtons who were tracing to Grass elements, and then the French Gands/Gants were first found in the same place (Burgundy) as the blue-lion Gros'/GRAUTs. The blue lion had traced to Louvains in Belgium, location of Ghent/Gaunt. Why are the keepers of the bars tracing to Gratian / Valentinian?
Gaunts use "A shield divided barry...", thus linking to the barry of Luffs/Love's. To prove that Gaunts link to Louvains, the Louvain lion is used in both colors by Massins/Masons, first found in the same place (Kent) as Louvains and Gaunts, and then Maceys use GAUNTlet gloves. Moreover, I suspect that the Conteville line to Le Meschin was a Gaunt-related one in the CONTe's, using the same lion as Grasse's (colors reversed to the lion of Louvain rulers of Brabant). English Conte's use the Cone antlers, and Maschi's use pine CONE's. By what coincidence did the Conteville's rule a Comyns location smacking of "Comminges," in the face where the gold bars were found? The Comyn surname even shows a COMMINGs variation.
The bars were found in Toulouse, on the Garonne river, like the name of Ranulf de Gernon, whose grandmother was a Conteville. Later, I find that blue-apple codework traces hard to Cheshire, and so it appears that some of the gold bars got to Cheshire within the family of de Gernon.
Sinclairs/Saints/Sene's, who look like a merger with Santones, use a "Commit" motto term in honor of French Conte's/Comites, who look like they could be using a version of the Saunier / Senn/Sens Coat. Just like that, the bars are tracing to the chief Templars, as expected where Templar lines were that of Caiaphas / Annas.
If there was an in-house secret that families partaking in a gold bar were permitted to use gold bars in their heraldry, perhaps the gold Meschin fesse is an example. It can be assumed that this fesse was code for the Fessy/Vessey family using the Arms of Macclesfield, where le Meschin's family ruled. I'll show an Arms of Macclesfield later, with a "copia" motto term, and a blue Caepio lion, not to mention a fitchee cross.
Reminder: when the Sands (Lancashire, Gaunt-land, so to speak) first came up, they looked like a Caracalla constituent migrating down the Ribble from Yorkshire to Lancaster. The English Saints were first found in Yorkshire. Meschins married Skiptons of Yorkshire, and that means lines from elite Romans were in Yorkshire, as even Caracalla was there. As Caracalla's father was fighting a war with a base in Yorkshire, perhaps he had some gold shipped to that place to pay his soldiers.
Caracalla (200 AD) was several centuries before the Bruce's brought the Caepio lion to York. But then, perhaps it's not correct to view the Caepio lion coming to York initially with Bruce's. As the Bruce-Crest lion looks purplish, perhaps the purple-on-gold Lacy lion turned blue. If so, it would be in the colors of the Louvain lion. That works. It traces Lacys (LIMerick) from Caepio-rooted Caracalla to Livius-rooted Louvains and connects with Bruces out of the Eburovices of Brescia; it just so happens that Eburovices co-founded York.
It just dawned that Limerick may have been named by the Lemovices of Limousin. Limerick was in the Arthurian / Clare part of Ireland, at Muskerry. The Mus entity was from Mysians, and Lemnos was wrapped up in Mysians. The French Limer surname happens to show white-on-blue scallops, symbol of the French Blois surname, and then Blois is smack beside the Lemovices theater. In myth, apples were a symbol of Aphrodite, wife of Hephaestus. I trace "Aphrodite" to the "Abruzzo" = the Bruce surname itself. Aphrodite named the Eburovice's, right?
The curiosity is that the Limer surname is registered with the Marre's/More's, as if "Limer" was originally, La Marre. It could be an indication of elements from Myrina, city of Lemnos.
Another curiosity is that English Limers/Lomars/Lombers (Norfolk) use three red scallops on a white bend, the symbol also of Romneys (in Blois / Limer colors); both Coats use bendlets with their bends, wherefore it's a match. While Mormons trace to Lemovices, Mitt Romney is a Mormon. There is a Lumbres location in Picardy that may apply.
Then, the white-on-blue bend of Romneys, bendlets included, is that also in the Arms of Blois (and the Arms of Champagne). Look at this: "William (died 834)...was the [first] Count of Blois from about 830...His brother was Odo, Count of Orleans [term suspect with "Aurelius"], and he was also a kinsman of Bernard of Septimania." That is very conspicuous where Aurelius' Septimius surname was thought (by me) to be the naming of Septimania.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William,_Count_of_Blois
As Italian Lombards could be construed as using Romney colors, and because the Lomars use a Lomber variation, it could reveal that Lombards were Lemnos elements. French Lombards are showing a chevron in the colors of the Quint chevron, but aside from this, I have no evidence of a link to Quintus Caepio. It should be said, however, that Lombardy is an area covering Brescia. Lombardy figures importantly after all, later.
Later in the update, the Bles surname will be suspect from Blois, for a reason that you will see. I'm mentioning it here because the triple chevrons of the Bles' are in the colors of the triple Mathie chevrons, while the same Mathie's have a red scallop in Crest, the Romney / Lomber symbol. The chevrons are in gold, and then Scottish Mathie's use gyronny, suspect with the Garonne river.
I have no idea why those seeking the "mysterious" blue lion of Bruce's fail to see the lion from Brescia. Perhaps they have an aversion to Italians; perhaps they think of the Bruce kings so sweetly as not to muddy their fantasies with a trace merely to Italians. Here is from my 5th update of January, 2011: "The bigger point is that, while expecting the Abreu's>Bruce's to be from Brixia, now called Brescia and Bresa, note that the Arms of Brescia uses a blue-on-white lion, the Bruce symbol! " The exclamation mark suggests that this discovery was fresh at that time. The link provided in that sentence was to here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brescia
That's the Wikipedia article on Brescia. It still shows the upright blue-on-white lion, but for how much longer? When I do a Google search for "Arms of Brescia" together with "blue lion," only five of pages come up, all mine, and no one else's, as if no one in the world but me knows about the blue lion of Brescia. For me, this is a sign that Google is involved in cover-ups. In fact, my computer informs me that I have 21 files with "Arms of Brescia," and yet Google only brings up five of them when googling "Arms of Brescia." Someone needs to ask Google why the world can't have all my pages mentioning "Arms of Brescia." Anyone seeking my pages on any one search cannot have but three, four or five pages on average, according to a program that Google has set against tribwatch.
Is there a mystery in the origin of the Percy lion?
It seems that the lion came to the Percys from the marriage of Agnes de Percy to Jocelyn de Louvain, in the 12th century.
Is there a link to Robert the Bruce?
Note that the Percy lion, in heraldry, is a blue lion.
The Mysterious Blue Lion
...the family insists that these are the arms Jocelyn brought from Louvain.
As we have seen, they were the arms also of the senior Bruce, Jacques de Breze, in Normandy, while with a silver field they were the arms of the senior Bruce in England.
...The Chief of the Bruce family, the Earl of Elgin, bears it on a silver canton in his arms, and the City of Bruges bears today Barry of eight Argent and Gules [= eight bars white and red] a lion rampant crowned Azure [= upright blue lion] armed and langued of the Second wearing a collar and cross Or. The picture below right shows an older version of these arms, without the crown, collar and cross."
http://www.baronage.co.uk/bphtm-03/bruce-05.html
http://lyre.angel.angelfire.com/V.the.Percy.lion.revisited.html
Zowie, this same website has a page, "The First Earls of Carrick," and at the very top is a Coat with a chevron (no colors) surrounded by nine fitchee cross (no colors), which can very well be a version of the Quint Coat!!! At the bottom of the page, we learn that it's the Earldom of Carrick Arms, with a red-on-white chevron, almost the red-on-gold Quint chevron. Here is a clip from the article:
...Margaret (or Marjorie), Countess of Carrick, m Adam de Kilconcath, 3rd Earl of Carrick in her right, who d[ied] on Crusade at Acre in 1270 without issue. What followed [is that Marjorie married Robert de Brus, the son of Robert de Brus, Lord of Annandale and of Cleveland (known to history as "Robert Bruce the Competitor")...Countess Marjorie d 1292 having brought into this world five sons and five daughers, of whom the most famous son was to become King Robert [Bruce] I, 4th Earl of Carrick...http://www.baronage.co.uk/bphtm-03/bruce-01.html
Where was my head until now? I had forgotten that the Bruce kings were merged with Carricks! Here I was seeing a trace of the Caracalla line back to Caepio's, whose lion traces forward to Bruce's, and even while knowing of a Caracalla link to the stock of Carricks as many as a half dozen days ago, it didn't dawn on me that the Bruce kings had merged with Carricks, even though I wrote on this years ago.
In the website's following article, which focuses on Bruce's of Normandy, the family is traced to the north rather than east to Brixia, even though a Brix entity of the Bruces is mentioned:
Traditionally, the origins of the Bruce family in the male line have been ascribed to the Norsemen, the Vikings, and a descent has been drawn from Lodver, a Jarl of Orkney ruling in the Northern Isles during the 10th century. His son and successor Sigurt, who was killed at the battle of Clontarf in 1014, is said to have had four sons from his first wife, one of whom, Brusee, supposedly had a son, Rognald, whose two sons, Eyliff and Ulf, have been said to have gone to Normandy, changed their names to Regenvald and Robert, and married respectively Felicia de Hastings and Emma of Brittany. On Felicia Regenvald is supposed to have fathered William de Brus, Lord of Brember in Sussex, ancestor of the Braose family. This same legend claims that Robert's son, Alan, was lord of Brix, a fief whose caput was five miles south of Cherbourg in the Cotentin peninsular and served as the Bruce centre in Normandy.http://www.baronage.co.uk/bphtm-03/bruce-02.html
It's a good thing the writer reveals this family line as "legend." Perhaps an anti-Italian made it up. Felicia sure does sound Italian, though. The Eburovices of Brixia founded Evreux, in the area of Normandy initially obtained by Rollo. It is predictable that Bruce's represented an elite branch of Eburovices with which Rollo found agreement.
I've repeated many times that the Kerrick-branch Carricks are very connect-able to the Presley Coat, and that the latter use two symbols of the Italian Abreu/ABRUSSI surname (Bruce's were early "Brusi"), and that the two Abreu lions are the two Normandy leopards (same colors). It exposes the Rollo alliance with this Abruzzo entity suspect out of Brixia. Can we see Bres elements in "PRESley." Entering "Bres" gets the Brix surname of Normandy.
Siward of Northumberland -- Background
The page above shows a family tree from Malcolm II, whose grandson married Sybilla of Northumberland. As soon as I saw her name, I wanted to dig in, and it was not to prove disappointing. It gets more intriguing right off the bat, because the mystery blue lion did go to the earls of Northumberland.
I'm already expecting Guido-Guerra liners of the Israeli-priesthood kind, and Payen-suspect Paeoni lines from Skotani, in the ancestry of Malcolm II. I'm exactly where I should be right now, right here in Duncan's Northumberland. I want to know this family's heraldic connections.
I have been all over a Sibal entity in the past several days (before seeing the tree and page above) as it touched upon Caracalla, and so we want to know whether his links to Sibal elements connects with this woman, Sybilla. Will her name and family connect with Seagers, and with Justine of Picenum, wife of Valentinian I from Cibalae?
The grandson of Malcolm II who married to Sybilla was king Duncan, whose arch enemy was MacBeth, the enemy also of Siward of Northumberland. We can expect family connections. Let's start off scratching the surface on a Caepio theme, for that seems evident from the outset, for the Duncan Coat is a chevron in colors reversed to the Quint chevron. Duncan from Caiaphas? The historian balks. It sounds like a tantalizing piece of entertainment, but nothing more.
If one enters "Donkey," an alternative Duncan Coat comes up with a chevron in colors reversed to the Earldom-of-Carrick chevron. I'm going to take this as a Caracalla trace to Northumberland and/or to the family of Duncan. On the page above, this earl-of-Carrick chevron is said to be that of "Bruce of Carrick," and so we have every reason to lift the kilt of the Bruces a wee bit to see if per chance there is a tattoo on the bare leg reading, CAEPIO.
We probably should not look any further for the origin of that Bruce-Carrick chevron than a take from the house of Duncan. But why the fitchee crosslets? If the Duncan chevron is taken from the Quints, we can only assume that the Bruce-Carrick fitchees are from the Quints.
Reminder: the Stephensons informed us that the Israeli vipers at St. Etienne had gone to Northumberland. We just didn't know how and when. But here we are, parking ourselves on Northumberland, not loitering or anything, but just taking a look. I wonder what we're going to find?
Duncan's royal family was called, DunKELD, and then the CELT surname of Perthshire shows the Pilate pheon in colors reversed. Hmm. Donkey's/Donkings were even first found in Northumberland...which is where the Stephensons were first found. As St. Etienne is at mount Pilate, this sure is one long-shot coincidence. But here it is, it's real, and I'm not making it up. Can we prove that the Celt surname is in "DunKeld"? I will and I shall. And I won't even lift of the kilt, thank goodness.
At St. Etienne, proto-Payens were merged with Pilate-suspect Billets (just compare their Coats for proof), the latter first found in Maine...beside Perche, where the Percys must originate that used the Bruce / Caepio lion. Actually, as we read above, it wasn't the Bruce lion so much as the lion of Jocelyn of Louvain, when he married a Percy. And we read that the representative of Jocelyn-Percy was a ruling family of Northumberland using the blue-on-gold Louvain lion. This is why we need to be looking at Siward of Northumberland, especially as he defeated MacBeth, while Duncan was killed by MacBeth. Do you think Duncan was married to a family member of Siward? We will find out. We will also see that Louvain was married by Siwald's son.
On one of the Bruce pages accessed from one above, we find that the lands of Skeltons came to the Bruces, but look: Skeltons use the Shield of Bellamy's, a family from Perche. The way to explain this is that Bruce's were in contact with the Percy's who had married Louvain, and thus the Bruce's were able to transfer the blue Louvain lion to themselves. Assuming that's correct, we shouldn't look for Caepio elements in Bruce ancestry so much as we should in Louvain ancestry. It makes all the sense (not at all meaning that Bruce ancestry was necessarily insignificant as may touch upon the viper's nest).
I think I understand what's going on here. The nest of Israeli vipers at mount Pilat evolved into Merovingians, who were controlled largely by Pepins, and the latter are known to have founded Babenbergs of Germany, and so why couldn't Pepins have founded the Bebbanburgs of the Bernicians, who lived in Northumberland? Are you with me? The Bernicians pre-dated the Siward - Duncan era, and go back to the viper's nest. We are looking for Merovingians in Britain to be a part of Arthurian myth codes, and then the Arthur surname, with a chevron in the colors of the Duncan chevron, was first found in Bernicia-based Berwickshire. I'm going to assume, therefore, that Bernicians were Merovingians, or that at least the Bebbanburg branch of Bernicians were Pepins.
The Alan-Visconti merger of a few updates ago. It was traced to the rulers / creators Brunswick-Luneburg. I don't know how early that merger got to Brunswick, but I have maintained over the years that "Brunswick" named Bryneich, the land of Bernicians. In this picture, the Bernicians were Germanics, but from a Visconti / Montferrat background involving Israeli's viper's nest. When you see the WISharts/Guiscards popping up shortly below, keep in mind that they are suspect as proto-VISconti's within the Bernician fold. It is the Guiscard elements, therefore, who are suspect as the viper's nest in the Bernician camp. It explains why Guiscards were part of the initial Templar thrust.
The move from Langhe (at Montferrat) to Luneburg (northern Germany) may have been early enough to become part of the Varni. I fully expect this to be true: that proto-Alans of Forum Allieni = Ferrara went through MontFerrat as Pharisee liners, and became the proto-Varangian Varni, for I am adamant that proto-Alans of Dol were from Varangians of the Stout-raven kind. I've been claiming for years that Alan's of Dol were from the Stout vikings. We are going to see that Siward had a nickname, "the stout." In short, Siward's line is suspect as a line from the Viper's nest.
It's the Sheltons (in Skelton colors) who were first found in Yorkshire, and they not only use the same type cross as Winchesters (fitchee crosses), in colors reversed, but the Winchester Crest has a blue lion. That's huge where we are expecting Quintus Caepio lines in the Bruce family. If you look closely, you will see a gold fitchee cross behind the blue Winchester lion, the color of the Quint fitchee. I suppose (just guessing) that Sheltons and Skeltons picked this symbol up from Winchesters, and Bruce's-of-Carrick then got it when they took Skelton titles.
The Sheldons (with a 'd') show the same motto term, "pati," as Duncans and Donkeys/Donkings. Do you suppose that "SHELDon" got to be a KELD term? It just so happens that Shields (Berwickshire) use the Shaw motto, and then Scottish Shaws were first found in the same place (Perthshire) as Celts. This can reveal what I never would have guessed, that Shawia Numidians named the Shields, who named Sheldons and Skeltons, who named Celts (and Kelts), thus exposing Celts as a branch of Shawia. I did say recently that Shawia passed through the St. Etienne theater, which is repeated here because Celts use the Pilate pheon.
The Shield doves and the colors of their chevron make the family look like a branch of Liefs/Leve's (Seager suspects). The "Vincit" term of Shields traces them to Vinkovci = Cibalae.
The green dragon in the Golden/Goulton Crest is used by Crichtons/Creightons, who are the ones using the blue lion in Bruce blue-on-white. Crichtons are the ones tracing well to the Gratian > Valentinian line out of Cibalae, wherefore the Valentinian line is tracing to the Dunkeld dynasty...if the Goldens/Goultons are a close branch of whatever named DunKELD. It just so happens that the Golden/Goulton chevron is in the colors of the Donkey chevron, and the GOULTen variation is like the Cult/Colt/COULTE variations of the Perthshire Celts. I am therefore convinced that the line of Pontius Pilate, as well as that of Valentinian, went to the DunKELD dynasty. There will be more evidence as we proceed.
Sear de Quincy's mother was from a Leuchars location in Fife, reminding me that I've got something to say. When I learned that the five number of heraldry was likely code for Quintus lines, it forced me to trace the Veys/Vivians, Fife's and Five's to Quintus Caepio. I felt I had to ignore any other derivation for the Five's and Fife's, and here I find that de Quincy's mother was from Fife. Perhaps it was a lucky strike.
I'm trying to say that there must have been a Vey / Fey bloodline from the Foix/Foy surname (sharing black "pellets" with Lacys), first found in the same place as Caepio-suspect Chappes', but out of this line, someone in the Quint family developed a Five surname that developed into "Fife." The Five's even use a Fify variation. The Fife's and Five's share a red-on-gold lion, the colors of the Quint chevron. The Shield-and-Chief color combination of the Veys/Vivians is that also of the Fife's and Bruce's, and the purple lions of the Veys/Vivians can trace to purple-lion Lacy elements in Fife...or, we might say, Luce elements suspect in "Leuchars."
Before I continue on with Leuchars, I want to mention the Lakers/Lackeys, first found in Stirlingshire, right beside Perthshire, and so we can count on this: the Celts/Colts were related to the Lakers/Lackie's, for the latter even use a chevron in colors reversed to the Golden / Donkey chevron. The Laker/Lackie Coat is virtually the Tancred Coat, and the latter were immediately ancestral to Guiscards, likewise first found in Stirlingshire. As Tancreds were HAUTEville's, the HAWTHorn Coat applies. I've known that the Hawthorn Coat is a version of the Tancred Coat, but just look at how the Hawthorne Coat is a version of the Donkey Coat. Siward of Northumberland will later be identified unquestionably as a HAUGHTY liner...which drags Mieszko Poles into the Hauteville family.
Wikipedia says in its article on Dagome, the alternative name of Mieszko I, that his ancestry is suspect from Sardinia, which happens to be where a branch of Visconti's operated. Can you see it? Can you see Visconti liners in the WIScarts/Guiscards where their Hauteville side was from Sigrid the Haughty, daughter of Mieszko? How did this Mieszko line get to Hauteville and to the Guiscards of Scotland? You need to ask Siward, who will prove to be a close relative, perhaps even a son, of Mieszko's daughter.
In the meantime, see the so-called "piles" (Pilate code?) in both the Guiscard Coat and in one Bamberg Coat. The pile's are in the same familiar colors.
It appears that Guiscards were a branch of Sardinian Visconti's (or whatever they were called at that time) as they first moved up into Poland. But this is a generalization because it does not concern an entire people-group, but merely daughters that rulers throw around for the sake of building kingdom. The question at hand is why the Milan branch of Visconti's, who are said to be quite distinct from the Sardinian branch, use a version of the Chappes Coat.
Tancreds use red-on-white scallops again, the scallop colors of Romneys / Limers / Mathie's who link closely to Blois. It's just a small point in case it means something larger. While writing on Siward below, it started to appear that he was a snake liner, for which reason I pegged him tentatively as a branch of Mercians, wherefore spot the "Mercy" motto code of Guiscards. I am convinced that Siward was a Hauteville liner, probably involved in the make-up of Guiscards.
Tancreds call their scallops, "shells," which may be important for the Shell-like variations of the Shields. In any case, the Shell Coat uses the snake design of a Quinn Coat, important because Quinns can be identified as Quincys. To make the Quincy link harder to the Tancred line, the Tancred Crest is an olive tree, and then the Olive surname uses the greyhound heads of the Luchs/Luke's, and it is the latter who will prove to be behind the Leuchers location of de Quincy's mother. The Olive surname shows variations smacking of the Leafs/Leve's.
To make the Quincy link harder to the Siward line, the Olive Coat is a version of the Edmond and Heth Coats, which will later connect to Siward's Heslington line. The Edmond Coat will be identified with Edmond Ironside, an Anglo-Saxon king, as was Alfred of the Bebbanburg Bernicians. Therefore, note that the hourglass Shield of the English Alfred Coat is in the colors of the hourglass Shield of the Gold Coat.
It just so happens that Portuguese Alfreds use the FIVE wings of Portuguese Abreu's, which is not necessarily irrelevant because Bruce's are from the Abreu fold.
The Luchs/Luke's use FIVE mascles, and mascles are the symbol of both Quincy's and Winchesters, thus tracing Luchs/Luke's strongly to "Leuchars." The Luch/Luke mascles are even in the positions of the five Percy lozenges. It looks very good therefore, for the possibility that de Quincy's mother was a Caracalla > Luce liner.
The page below shows an alternative Arms of Sear de Quincy, a red-on-gold fesse, the colors of the Quint chevron:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saer_de_Quincy,_1st_Earl_of_Winchester
We read: "The family of de Quincy had arrived in England after the Norman Conquest, and took their name from Cuinchy in the Arrondissement of Bethune; the personal name "Saer" was used by them over several generations. Both names are variously spelled in primary sources and older modern works, the first name being sometimes rendered Saher or Seer, and the surname as Quency or Quenci."
Cuinchy is in Artois, location of the Lys river to which I traced Caracalla's Luce entity. That is, I claim that the Luce's named the Lys valley, but when making that claim days ago, I didn't know that the greyhound-using Luchs/Luke's named the location of de Quincy's mother. The Lys surname, you see, uses greyhounds.
The above is a powerful argument for tracing Luce's to "Lys." It doesn't prove that Quincy's mother is a Lys / Luch bloodliner, but in both locations of Cuinchy and Leuchars, there are Luch and related Lys bloodliners about. How should we read that? Majors use a greyhound too, and Geddes' honor Majors in their "CAPTA majora" motto. Therefore, greyhounds are in both the Caracalla > Luce line, and a line from Geta, Caracalla's brother.
I can now identify the "Capta" term as code for the Capote's/Chaput's/Capus'/Shapout's, for they use three roses in their Chief, symbol also of the Majors. The latter use Quint colors in their Shield-and-Chief combination. I glean that these roses in Chief belong also to the Etienne Coat, where the white-on-black roses belong to Sach's and therefore to Caracalla lines. But we will see a white-on-black rose belonging also to Siward. A BIG POINT now is that Italian Capote's/Capone's use a mule!!! It's tracing the so-called "Caepionis" line of Quintus Caepio to the Donkeys and Duncans, isn't that right?
As Caracalla had a SEVERus surname, I would suggest that "Saer" is a corruption from "Sever / Sauer." If that's correct, Saer de Quincy was a Severus-Caepio merger. What was a Severus-Caepio merger doing way up in Fife? We would need to ask Caracalla, right?
The greyhound is a symbol of the Grey surname, which shares the anchor theme with Majors. It just so happens that the Grey surname was first found in Northumberland! We are seeing quite a lot while parked out here in Northumberland.
Wikipedia locates Cuinchy 20 miles southwest of Lille. I claimed (years ago, not now for convenience) that the Saraka / Luce fish was turned into a lily as per this Lille location. And here we are with what looks like a Caracalla line in the Lille theater even aside from considerations on the Lys entity. On my atlas, Cuinchy is very near or even on the Lys river, and near Atrecht and Lievin. The Lys goes to Ghent, by the way, which entity was suspect in protecting Caepio's gold bars. I'll bet there's a li'le gold around the Lys valley there somewhere.
As he was also SAIRE / SAHAR de Quincy, the Saire/Serre Coat may apply. The Sire(n) surname (green snake linking to Sibal-related Seagers) is the one with a motto term linking to Justine of Picenum, and thus to the Sibals, allowing Duncan's wife, Sybilla, to trace way over to Cibalae. I had traced George of Hungary, son of king Andrew, to the family of Duncan's father. As Cibalae is at the Hungarian frontier, hmm.
The stars of the Saire's/SERRE's are in the colors of the Annas- and Angus-Coat stars, and of the stars in the Arms of Wallis canton, location of Sion, interesting because, a few short miles upstream from Sion, there is a SIERRE location, and a few miles downstream from Sion there is a Saxon location that may connect with the Saxon/Septon surname suspect with Caracalla's Septimius surname.
Sayers, said to be from a St. Saire location in Normandy, were first found in the same place (Essex) as Seers, and both use a chevron in the same colors, and likewise use stars in the colors of the Wallis-canton stars. It is not at all illogical to be tracing Quincy liners to Sion. As Quincy's just traced to the Lys river of Artois, by what coincidence were Walsers (named after Wallis canton) in the Lys valley of Aosta?
The Sauer write-up says that a Dieteri Galleri was the first to take on the Sauer surname, and then Gallerys use the upright blue-on-white lion. It recalls the blue Bruce lion in Galloway, for Gallerys were first found there, where Saer's son ruled, by the way, and where we could expect Geds / Luce's / Pike's. I would not hesitate to link this blue Caepio lion of the Gallerys to the blue stags of the Hanna's, first found in Wigton, Galloway! The Hanna's were Annas lines, weren't they? The Wigton surname, per chance, is using the Capone stars.
The Hands are in blue and thus connect-able to Hanna's. In fact, recall William de Brus, lord of Brember, for the Brember/Brimmer/BRENNER Coat uses an all-blue version of the Hand Coat. The only thing missing in these Coats is the wash basin where Pontius Pilate washed his hands clean. Irish Hands, using six lozenges in colors reversed to the seven Quincy mascles, are shown properly as Levi-suspect "Laven."
I don't think it's coincidental that there is a Brenner Pass through the Alps, which continues into a large / long river pass leading smack down to Brescia. German Brenners even use a lion in colors reversed to the Brescia / Bruce lion. How could the Bruce family not know this??? We're being misled. All of Scotland was misled.
I didn't know while writing this update initially that Clavens were a Siward line, for while the Swords are said to be named after Siward, it says that the Irish called that surname, "Claven." There is no Claven surname coming up, but Irish Hands/Lavens are shown as "Glavin/Glavan," and I think that's a match. If the six lozenges are a take on the Quince mascles, why not use seven of them...or five in honor of "Quincy"? We need to ask why Glavins/Lavens shows just one Hand variation, and nothing else like it? I suspect that it's due to kinship with the Bruce-related Hands, and, sure enough, I think the Glavans/Lavans are Levi and Annas liners (as with Bruce's), but in contact also with Caepio liners of the Quincy kind. These lines seem to converge over and over again in different families.
I don't think it's a small point to say that the Shield-and-Chief color combination of the Fife's is colors reversed from the same of Annas'. The lion of the Annas-suspect Angus' is red, the colors of the Fife and Five lions. Fife is even beside Angus so that the lions can be related. all on white, , and Angus is a location beside Fife. The latter lions could be from the red Sauer lion. However, I expect a black-on-white lion to depict Caepio lines, for those are the colors of the Capua and Levi lions. There is a black lion, on gold, in the Sauve/Sauvat Coat, and Sauve's/Sauvats must be Sava-river peoples too because they were first found in the same place as Save's. Save's use a snake, and thus we're still on a Seager / Sugaar track. Savage's may apply, therefore, and they use black-on-white lions, as well as a lion paw in Crest. However, there are SIX, not five, lions in the Savage Coat. The lions are in the positions of the SIX Lacy pellets. To whom would the six number belong?
Later, we find that Siward is related very closely to Canute/Cnut, and then the Lacy's using six pellets have a so-called "Fret KNOT" in their Crest. Therefore, it is indeed suspect that Siward lines use six as a special number, at times. Surnames using a savage symbol may now be suspect as Siward lines or mergers. In fact, after saying that, it was realized that Siward lines link to the Paw, and related, surnames. You'll see how this works later, but for now, note again that Savage's use a lion's paw.
This picture is arguing for a Siward link to Quints as well as to Quincys. Perhaps the six theme comes from the Sexton variation of "Saxons/Septons." In that case, the number belongs to Caracalla lines. Quincy's may be using seven mascles in honor of Septons.
As a result, I've just realized a method to advance the theory that Siward is from Pepins amongst the Bernicians. For, a savage is used by the Mens Coat, while "Mens" is a motto term of two Pepin branches. There will be some talk on this later.
To find suddenly that Glavens/Lavens are looking like a Siward line linked to de Quincy can, in one swoop, trace Siward to Cibalae...if "QUINCE" is what named, VINKovci." I've shown already that Vince's/Vinks/Vinch's use a "sibi" motto term as code for Cibalae, wherefore other surnames may certainly trace to that place. AHA! It has just reminded me that WINGers us SIX footless martins!
Note that the Winger bend is white with gold bendlets, the symbol of the counts of Blois. The Save bend is in both colors of the counts of Blois. The Bellows, who smack of "Blois," use yet another Shield-and-Chief color combination of the Mens, with three CINQUEfoils in Chief in the colors of the same of the Donkey Chief. It was immediately above, before seeing the Bellows Coat again, that I started to see Siward as naming the Savards/Salfords, and then the black Bellow wolf appeared, the color of the Savard/Salford wolves. In other words, I'm getting the impression that "Siward" is a Savard term, making him a fundamental line of Septimius Severus.
WINKlers decided on five footless martlets. Dutch Winklers have the Shield-and-Chief color combination of the Mens', Guine's, and Seagrams/Segrins. The latter (never mentioned before) use blue-on-white lions (colors-reversed to Seager moline), which may expose that the Caepio lions were related to the owners of the same-colored moline cross, used by Segni's/Segurana's and Sibals. Guine's use SIX leaves, the Casey symbol. Guines is a location in Pas-de-Calais, i.e. near Cuinchy. Scottish Guines'/Gunns were first found in the Orkneys.
Sackers, using the bull-head design of Haughts, were first found in the same place (London) as Capes'. As Siwards will be discovered to be closely related to Sigrid the Haughty, I would have to say that "SIGRid" is related to the terms, Sacker, Seager, and perhaps Sach/Sax and Saxon too.
Sackers are in the colors of the Tiens/Thames, first found in neighboring Oxfordshire. The Tiens/Thames are the ones using mascles in colors reversed from the Quince mascles, and therefore in the colors of the Hand/Glavan lozenges. That is a match, I can predict, meaning that Tiens/Thames were a merger with Siward / Sacker lines. The Tiens/Thames chevron is colors-reversed from the Quint chevron, and in the colors of the Duncan chevron.
The discovery that Siward is in the Sword write-up is a huge clue, for I am aware of several surnames using the Sword/Sourde swords, including the Shots/Shute's. It is informing us that the Suthers/Southerns are a branch of Siward-related Shute's, because Suthers are in Seer colors and use the black eagles of the Seers...thus linking Siward to lines expected for Saer de Quincy. It is again tracing Siward to Sava-suspect lines, for which reason Sybillia, expected to be Siward's close kin, is again tracing to Cibalae. That should explain why Suthers and Valents share a white-on-red bend.
As you will read that Siward is a Heslington entity, it should be added that Suthers were first found in the same place (Sussex) as Heslingtons, and that the latter are in the green-on-white colors of the Valent squirrels. The Squirrels/Square's/Squire's had been traced to Placentia along with the Shute-suspect Scute's. We are thus seeing links of Siward lines to Skits and Scheds, founders of the Scots along with lines that developed into the Guidi's. To now find Siward, involved with early Scot kings, is quite impressive toward that idea that Skits of northern Italy founded Scots. The Skits, Scheds and Guido's all use the hourglass design of Alfreds, however, suggesting a Scot-line link to Bernicians...which may explain why the Scott surname was first found near Bernicia.
This is excellent for proving an aging claim, that the "I zal" motto phrase of the Mens' is code for the Islip and related Hazel bloodline. I now find that Siward is related to the Mens surname while Hazels are an obvious branch of HESLingtons. More on the Heslington - Hazel surnames below.
The Islip topic led to Nazi's expected to have lived with Adolf Hitler in the Montana / Idaho area. This jibes with the trace (many months ago) of Shot's/Shute's to the sling SHOT symbol in the Arms of Dachau, the latter being headquarters for Nazi concentration camps, and near Berlin, where HIEDlers/Hitlers were first found. Note that the Bethune and Beth lozenges / mascles are in the colors of the Hyde lozenges. The latter's Coat is found in the Fiquet Coat, a surname suspect with the fitchee crosslet because Fitch's are also "Fichet." The Hyde's use a "fecit" motto term as proof of Fiquet links.
As per the recent trace of the Will's to Hitler-line elements at the Rimini theater, note that the Mens motto in full is, "I will I zal." Compare "Hazel" to "Heidl." Moreover, one of Hitler's men, with Mengel surname, smacks of the MENGzies variation of the Mens. There was a neo-Nazi in Idaho / Montana with a Mangel-like surname (I can't recall whether that's the correct spelling).
The Bait/Beeth Coat looks to be using a version of the Sword Coat, and may suggest Siward merger with the family of MacBETH. The Baits were first found in Fife, where Cuinchy elements are expected. Cuinchy is beside a BETHune location. The Bait crest is the green Crichton/Creighton dragon, suggesting that Baits were Bute elements of that kind.
The French Bethune Coat is a version of the Beth Coat, but uses mascles rather than the lozenges of the Beths. The Bellamy Shield may be in play. The Crests of Bethune's and Beths both use the same white otter head, important for the trace of Siward to Lombards of the Other/Otter kind. That trace will crop up below. It's interesting that while Bethune's were first found in Perthshire, Swords use a motto, "Paratus." It may reveal that the Norfolk Pratts (mascles and pellets) are the namers of Perth; Perts, after all, uses mascles too (in the colors of the Quince mascles). Belgian Pratts use the Bruce / Annandale saltire.
Then, while one Sword Crest is described as "WINGs expanded," the Wing/Wink surname, using billets, was first found in Perthshire. It's bringing the Colts/Celts/Coulte's (and Golds/Gould's) of Perthshire back to topic because they use the Pilate pheon while the Billet surname traces easily to Mount Pilat at St. Etienne. The black crosslet of the Wings/Winks is that of Julians/Gillians, who traced to the Wills where the same crosslet is used by Velis'/Vail's. Between Rimini and Fano there is a Cattolica location that I trace to Cattle's/Cattels using the fret (part mascle), a symbol also of the Hiedler-suspect Hoods/Hutts.
There you just saw a Siward trace to Vinkovci, right? All we need to do now is prove that Sybilla was from Cibalae, and we will understand this story to a large degree. We will know better that Crichtons/Creightons trace to Gratian at Cibalae, thus making the Baits/Beeths -- who look like Swords -- suspect from that place too.
There was also a Nazi concentration camp in relation to a "Goeth's stump" in Germany. Other arguments led me to conclude that Nazi's were from the Goth surname, using the Zionist star of Vlads and Hagars (Perthshire again). The Mangels are listed with Mansells/Mauncels, whose so-called "maunch" symbol is a known code for Manche, where Masseys were first found. The Mens/Mengzies are thus suspect after the namers of Maunche. While many families lived in Manche, I highlight the Masseys for a reason, in this picture.
We need to ask whether World War II was an attempt by Hitler to obtain the Caepio gold bars, and perhaps to protect the bars he already had. Later, we will find the blue-apple riddle, which includes the Paw surnames as well as the peacock in the Mannes Crest, goes to the Masseys / Meschins of Cheshire. Moreover, the Man/Maness Coat is the Massey Shield with a savage. The Sword swords surround a "MAN'S head." Everything is reeking a Siward trace to Nazi's. The Nazi's were Rosicrucians -- suspect from Varangian Rus -- that called themselves after "Thule," a mysterious Scandinavian entity. All we need to do is link Siward to Stewarts, and we will know that Siward's lines were the Thule entity...that I trace to the namers of "Dol." The Dol Alans liked "WALTer."
The "vult" and "valde" motto terms of the Mangels/Mancells could be code for the Vlads, and/or for the Walts/WalDECKERs who coincidentally use three white axes on a red Shield, the colors of the three Sword swords on a red Shield. It's bringing the Drake axe's to mind because the Drake wyvern was used by dukes of Masovia, where Siward's close kin, Sigrid the Haughty traces. Drake's were first found in the same place as the Josephs and Winchesters, and it's the Josephs who use "vlad" in their motto. Drake's are suspect as Vere's, who likewise lived in Manche. Vere's and Stewarts together were traced to Brocken mountain near Brunswick, the area suspect with the Bernicians to which Siward belonged. Brockens are using, I think, Goeth's stump, and Brocks use the Stewart motto.
When I found the sling shot of Dachau, it was amazing to find that the Sling surname uses a VULTure, what I pegged as code for Walters. I was amazed because I had recently traced Nazi's to northern Israel's Nazareth area as per a Gerer-like surname (can't recall the spelling) using a vulture. The Shots/Shute's use "guerre" in their motto. can you glean a Siward trace to Guido Guerra? As expected. As Siward's ancestry is now suspect as the line of Guerra liners that founded the Scot kings from the Alpin Picks, see the Sword sword in the Alpin Coat!!! A very welcome find.
As Kenneth MacAlpine was involved, see the COINnich variation of Kenneths, like "CUINchy." The Lucco variation of Kenneths now speaks to the Leuchars location linked to Cuinchy! The rest of the Kenneth motto was traced to the wife of Idris of Morocco, who was from the Awraba tribe of north Africa. Her name was Kanza, which may be revealing that Quincys were from that woman's family as they developed into Kenneths. The flames in the Kenneth Crest may link to the flames in the Mangel/Mancell Crest (the latter surname being to one with the "vult" and "valde" motto terms).
English Walters are likely using the Varn bend, and I'm predicting here that Siward traces back to the Varni. German Walters use the same lion as Maschi's (Rimini). Everything here traces to Hitler. World War II can be construed as a war between Stewarts of England and the Stewart-related Adolf Hitler. It is predictable that the proto-Stewarts, whom as Dol Alans married the earl-of-Chester family (see Robert D'Avranches of Ferte-Mace), got some of Caepio gold bars, and here I am finding that Siward looks like the ancestry of the Alans of Dol, founded by a Flaad character, a term like the one used by Hugh D'Avrances, first earl of Chester.
The SOURdes variation of English Swords can suggest links to the Sour variation of Sauers. Hitler / Nazi's are known to have had roots in Austria, where the Sava river begins. The Swords use a "man's head," the very description used for the Sage savage...which once again traces Siward to Seager lines on the Sava. The "man's head" is code for the Mens surname using a version of the same "Man's head," though the Mens' call it the head of a "savage," thus clinching the Siward relationship to the Savage surname, first found in the same place (Cheshire) as Keveliocs, earls of Chester.
The Quincy mascles may have been from the marriage of Robert, son of Saer de Quincy, to Hawise of Chester, great-granddaughter of Ranulf le Meschin. Hawise was a daughter of Hugh de KEVELioc, smacking of Cavaillon/Cabellio. However, the Kevel surname is traced in its write-up to Chivele, in Wiltshire. However, the surname is said to be from the same area of France (Pas-de-Calais) as the Cuinchy location (not far at all from Mons of Hainaut). Check out the AVION location near Lievin on the map of Pas-de-Calais, for Cuinchy is five miles east of Bethune and therefore very near Lievin. The Cavaillon location is near Avignon = AVENnio! Therefore, it seems that Avignon elements named Avion while Cavaillon elements named Chivele. This expects the Shawia entity of Cabellio in Artois, at the Lys valley.
There is an Avon county smack beside Wiltshire!
ZOWIE! In the last update, I traced Kephali of Greece to the Cavaillon term. Kephali was a wider area having Gerenia within it, and the latter term was traced to mythical "Geryon" at northern Wales. A Rhodon entity at Gerenia was traced to Ruthin of Wales, beside Powys. In that discussion, I mentioned that I had traced mythical Poias to "Powys" of Wales (some years ago) because Hercules, who conquered Geryon, was integral to the Poias myth. I now find that a Kephali like term was in Powys: "[Hugh de Kevelioc] is thought to have been born in Kevelioc in Monmouth. But he may have taken the name of the cwmwd of Cyfeiliog (in modern Powys) in the southern part of the Kingdom of Powys, Wales." Is that not wild? I was even tracing the Machon entity of Gerenia to Mona of Wales, and here we find that Kephali elements apparently named both Kevelioc in MONmouthshire, and Cyfeiliog in Powys.
I know how hard it is for a British historian, who prefers to see British pre-history in some glorious Nordic nebula, to accept ancestry merely in dark-headed Greeks, a dime a dozen, ho-hum. Wales, land of Spartans, land of Ladon. I get it. The Daphne cult on the Ladon river was traced to Chester's earlier name, Diva, and here we are discovering that the earls of Chester merged with Greek elements near or at the Ladon.
It looks like Meschins, from merely Malahule of More, son of Eystein, connected in Wales with the Greeks from Kephali, and to support that idea further, it explains the mystery of why Ranulph le Meschin's son is surnamed, GERNon. After Gerenia elements, right?
As Kevels lived in Keevil, "Kibble" was entered seeking kin. It was at this time that Sybilla of Northumberland was recalled, especially as the grandmother (Maud) of Saer de Quincy was a daughter of Maud of Northumberland, wife of David I, grandson of king Duncan. I saw that Ranulph de Gernon married a woman whose grandmothers were SYBIL Corbett and SYBIL de Montgomery. It was this Meschin line that the de Quincy's merged with, very conspicuously, because Caepio elements had merged, in my opinion, with Cibalae. It just so happens that while the Kibble/Keeble Coat definitely seems to be a version of the Kevel Coat, it uses a chevron in the colors of the Quint chevron, and colors reversed to the Duncan chevron, important because king Duncan married Sybilla of Northumberland.
While the Kevel surname is said to be from the Hesdin part of Pas-de-Calais, the Hesdin/Heston surname (included an old "Hewstone") was first found in the same place (Middlesex) as the Kibble/Keeble surname. That's a match. Hitler's nephew, William Hitler, re-named himself, William Stuart-Houston, and moved to a Patchogue address beside West ISLIP, Long Island, New York.
As the Hesdin area (on a Canche river) is near the source of the Lys river, it is interesting that the Hesdin crosslets are in the colors of the fleur-de-lys of Asmans. The latter surname is suspect with "Hasmon(ean)" because its fleur-de-lys are in the colors used by Masseys (as well as the fleur of Lys' and in the Arms of Lille), and then the Hasmoneans (may perhaps be in "HESdin") had been traced exactly to the Welsh elements that the Meschin line honored with it's surnames, Gernon and Kevelioc. Asman's share the black-on-gold talbot with Carricks, and were first found in the same place (Wiltshire) as Kevels, the one's said to be from Hesdin. That's probably too coincidental to be coincidental.
The Mott/Morte-line Maccabees were traced to Mortons, first found in the same place (Wiltshire; Wales-border area) as Shots/Shutes (use the Sword swords). Mortons (Cheshire elements) are honored by Walsh's, the surname of the wife of president George W. Scherf, the son of president George Herbert Walker Scherf, son of a Nazi. The Scherfs, you see, in being listed with Schere's, are going to be suspect as a line from Siward. Watch and see why. Mortons are using the Bush goat, suspect as the goat of neighboring Russells (red lion), whom I linked to Savage's and therefore to the red Sauer/Sour lions. Perhaps all we need to do to understand is take the hard sound away from "Scher / Schor" so that Shere and Shore remain, much like "Seer / Sauer." We will see why Siward links to Howe's (a branch of House's), who use the wolf-head design of Scarfs, first found in the same place (Yorkshire) as Bush's, Walkers, Islips, and the Heslington Hill of Siward.
We would expect the Caepio line of Quincy's to merge with Maccabee liners, and that's what we appear to have here in Quincy marriage to Kevelioc. We saw some Maud names above in the ancestry of de Quincy, and then the Mauds (Cheshire) use the same sort of Coat as MONmouths. The thin bars of both surnames were seen in one Barry Coat when Caracalla was linking to the Barry surnames. The red Maud lions in both Coat and Crest reflect the same in the Sauer Coat, but also the same in the Coat of Aurs who may be from "Aurelius," Caracalla's throne name. This is further evidence yet of a Quincy link to Caracalla.
I've only just noticed the fitchee cross on the Maud-Crest lion! Mauds are generally said to be versions of "Matilda," but who created "Maud," and why? As Mauds use a version of the MONmouth Coat, I suspect that "Maud" is a term from "Modane / Modena / Modiin."
Into the Gutter with Siward
It is from Saer de Qhincy's ancestry in Northumberland that we can expect links back to the Christ-killer vipers of St. Etienne. Maud of Northumberland was the daughter of Judith of Lens, and Lens is a location near Cuinchy. Lens is within spitting distance from Lievin, suspect with the Livius line that merged with Quintus Caepio. I now know that the namers of this Lys river, formed by Caracalla's Luce line, led to Quincy's mother too, but moreover there was reason to believe that the viper's nest at St. Etienne, which included Herods as well as Caiaphas liners, and which was near Lyon, birthplace of Caracalla, quickly migrated to the Lys-river zone of Artois...before the first Merovingians (450 AD) took power and borrowed the Luce fish.
There is a reason to trace "Clovis" to Clavers / Clovers, but then the Irish, we are told in the Sword write-up, call Swords by a Claven term. Didn't I say that Siward's Bernicians were from Pepinid Merovingians?
If we enter "Lie," as per "Lievin," we get another upright red lion (in both colors of the Fife's), symbol also of the Five's and Fife's, and a family first found in Cheshire. That fits the Quincy merger with Kevelioc, especially as the same-colored lion is shown at Wikipedia for the Arms of Ranulph le Meschin.
Mons in Hainaut, where the first Merovingians were suspect, is less than 50 miles from Lens / Lievin, thus giving us every reason to trace Maud-related Monmouths to "Mons." Judith of Lens was right down Templar alley, the blood providing the first Templar rulers of Jerusalem.
The father of Maud of Northumberland doesn't help me to make a connection to Sybilla of Northumberland, but it can be assumed. He's WALTHEeof. Clicking to his father, Siward of Northumberland under discussion, we find him nicknamed "grossus" and "the stout." We have a Grasse-liner suspect here, no matter what they say about how he got the nicknames. His ancestry is unknown, perhaps deliberately. He married Bamburgh, and is this suspect from Pepinids of the Bebbanburg kind, perhaps even the Mercians, all from the Ticino river, home of the Laevi. His nickname is "DIGri," a term I could expect from "TICino," though DAGobert comes to mind too. "The Old Norse nickname Digri and its Latin translation Grossus ('the stout') are given to him by near-contemporary texts...St Olave's church in York and nearby Heslington Hill are associated with Siward." Could "Olave" be a form of the Lief/Leve- and Laevi-suspect Olive's?
HESLington. It just so happens that Hazels share the squirrel with Decks/DAGGERs so that Siward's "nickname" looks like secret code for the Dagger surname. Let's not forget the Sword trace via Shots/Shute's to the Arms of Dachau.
Checking the Heslington surname, there was a chevron in colors reversed to the House Coat, and Hazel-like variations, which recalls that Hazels and French House's//Hauss' use the same leaf design. Hazels were, like Mauds, first found in Cheshire. Why is Siward linking to Cheshire elements?
It's now clear that Hazels are using the blue-on-gold fesse of the Lens surname (black Zionists stars), which are in the colors of the Louvain lion for the probable reason that Siward's son's wife, Judith of Lens, had Lambert I of Louvain as a great-grandfather, who was "the son of Regnier III, Count of Hainaut and Adela, sister of Reginar IV, Count of Mons..." Siward's son married the line of the killers of Christ, didn't he? But why? Was Siward himself from that line? (As per using the same fesse as Dussles, Hazels trace to elements that named Dusseldorf, Germany.)
The "focis" motto term of Heslingtons evokes the Phocaeans at Lacydon and Massillia, and then the latter location was, in my opinion, re-named after the Marsi. That makes sense where Siward was suspect as a Marsi / Marici liner, important because the Marsi snake led to the naming of the Angle's, whom Siward was from. But, again. Mercians are pegged as his particular countrymen. It was suggested that lake Fucino, of the Marsi, was named after Phocaeans. But we will see further that Siward links to the Sugaar snake cult. The Wikipedia article on Sugaar shows a swastika-like symbol made of two snakes.
Recall from the last update that Marici were discovered out of the Sava river and leading to the Basque god, Sugaar. That Marici line to the Basques was wrapped up with Seagars/Sugars who were merged with Sibals, and then the latter show a SIBALD variation that may have become "SIWARD"...because 'l' to 'r' switches are very common. Just like that, Siward can trace to Sybilla of Northumberland, and back through Mercians to Marici lines out of the Sava.
So, unfortunately for the English historian, the English do not trace to a glorious nebula of the distant past, but merely to Italians and the killers of Christ just a few centuries, not ice ages, before the first Anglos. There may have been a nebula in Scandinavia, but no one was living there yet, because the damned thing was made of ice crystals. Only the thieves of the European continent would tolerate that nebula so as to live in isolation with their stolen treasures, with a large moat between them and the European police. It's not a very glorious picture. There is a cloud in the House Crest, but it's so frozen that an anchor is hanging from it.
There is a Seward surname (upright leopards in the colors up the Louvain lion) using what could be the Seer chevron. The Seward fesse is colors reversed to the fesse of the alternative Arms of Sear de Quincy at his involvement with the Magna Carta. As that fesse is also that of the Alans, note that the Alan fesse uses the three oak leaves of the Heslingtons. Why is Siward tracing to Alans?
As Heslingtons were first found in Sussex, it recalls "William de Brus, Lord of Brember in Sussex, ancestor of the Braose family." Didn't Alans and Bruce's together become the kings of Scotland not terribly long after Duncan and Sybillia? The Alans were raised to the position of, High Steward of Scotland, by David I, grandson of Duncan. I had no idea until now that David must have been from the Templarite viper's nest via his Duncan blood.
Compare "House / Hauss" to "Hawise," the woman married by the son of Saer de Quincy. Islips/HASlops (Yorkshire) apply to Hazels, and Hazels even call their leaves, "hazel slips." Islips/Haslops use a version of the Maxwell-Crest symbols: stag and holly. Maxwells call theirs a "holly BUSH," thus linking Islips to Scherf-supporting Bush's.
As Hawise was a Kevelioc, I'm guessing that the Heslington chevron is that of the Settle-related Stars, first found in the same place (Wiltshire) as Asmans and Kevels. I'm guessing that the green-on-white lozenges of the Settle's and Stars ("Vive" motto term) link to the Quincy-suspect lozenges of the Hands/Lavins (in Quint colors) because I see Hasmoneans, Sadducees, Annas liners, Caiaphas liners and Levites in the seven surnames in this paragraph. It's important to find these multiple elements merging repeatedly because someone like an historian might like to argue, for example, that, while Quintus Caepio may link to Quincys, it doesn't prove Caepio links to "Caiaphas."
Aha! Shots/Shute's, suspect with the Sewers/Suters/Shuters (Sadducee suspects, discussed below), were first found in the same place as Stars, and thus the Stars must be a branch of Suters who trace with Sewers and Saire's to the Sava. (I did not yet know that Swords were from Siward while writing here, but as Shots/Shute's use the Sword swords, it guarantees a Sewer link to "Siward".)
Just after Siward defeated Macbeth in 1054, George "Drummond" from royal Hungary arrived to Scotland in 1055. It appeared that he had come either to assist Macbeth, or to partake in the take-over of his kingdom when Malcolm III became king in 1057. However, it is now apparent that George got involved with Siward. About a decade after George's arrival, his son, Maurice Drummond, piloted the ship that brought Margaret (mother of David I) to from Hungary to Scotland, afterwhich she married king Duncan's son. A Drummond was involved in the Bruce-Stewart ascension to the throne.
The Hungarian Leslie's, strongly suspect from the Sava, were part of the crew with Maurice Drummond. George was the son of Andrew I, whose ancestry I traced to the Ticino river. Siward-incidence? I had traced Hungarian roots to the Ticino (home of Laevi) before learning that Andrew's brother was named, Levente. As the Hands and Hanna's both use stags, the symbol of Hungarian roots, it appears that "Levente" should link to the Hands/Lavins/Glavens (I did not yet know that Siward was from the Sword/Claven surname while writing here). It just so happens that the Leven surname is the one using the chevron in Quint-chevron colors. This picture recalls the recent revelations that Annas lines were fundamental to the Marici on the Ticino.
Look at how the Leven Coat matches the Tease/Tigh Coat. I witnessed with my own eyes that the leaves of the French House's were (until last year) identical to the ones now showing for the Tease/Teck/Tess Coat. The "Digri" nickname of Siward was for Dagger lines on the Ticino, wasn't it? As Siward will ultimately trace to Valentinian's birthplace, it's important that Decks/Daggers and Valents share the squirrel. "Digri" may also trace to some similar elements in Dachau.
Andrew I was the great-grandson of Taksony, the Hungarian ruler who smacks of "Tessen," the alternative name of the Ticino. As Decks/Daggers trace with Tecks/Tess' and Tease's to the Ticino, it's now Quincy-conspicuous that the Squirrel surname is shown as "Squire," like the Sire surname that traces to Sibal lines!
Plus, the Skair variation of Squire's reflects "Saire." It makes perfect sense to find Quincy lines tracing to the Laevi on the Ticino because the Livius family, which predated Caiaphas, needs to trace to the Laevi that likewise predated Caiaphas.
The Squirrel/Squire/Skair Crest is a bear paw, symbol of the Leuven surname (!), and like the lion paw in the Quint Crest!!! We have done more than scratch the surface here; the claws have cut right through the garbage-can lid, and the bear is licking what's left of the rotting meat on Caiaphas' bones. It's the best picture I can offer the disillusioned British historian.
The Sewer surname offers the possibility that its Souter/Suter/Sutter/Shutter variations are from Severus lines on the Sava. For, the Sewer/Suter Crest even looks like the leopard design (deferent position) of the Sayer/Saire Crest. The latter's motto, "Bear and forbear," may be play on the bear themes above. This is more than interesting, for the Sewers/Suters use a small Shield on Shield that could link to the same theme as Scute's, always suspect with Guido Guerra, and then the Shots/Shute's (Wiltshire) use a "guerre" motto term!
Sadducee's in the Setta valley are always to be suspect with Guido Guerra. We saw above that Sewers/Suters can link with Shute's (Wiltshire) to Stars (Wiltshire) and Star-related Settle's, but what we have in the Sewer/Suter Coat is eight fitchee crosses (!) surrounding the Shield in the same manner as the eight footless martlets surround the Saddock/Sedwick and Chaddock Shields, with all three surname's using a smaller central Shield. Chaddocks were first found in the same place (Lancashire) as Scute's, who use very small Shields in their Chief. Chads even share a potent cross with Skits and Scheds. Everyone in this paragraph is related, all Sadducee lines, but the addition of the fitchee cross into this picture, symbol of Winchesters and Quints, is fantastic, for Caiaphas was a Sadducee.
So, we can now trace "SIWARd" to the SEWER bloodline with more certainty, and thus explain his links to Caepio suspects as we find them further.
The impression one could get where a Sewer surname is lumped into Sadducee lines is that "Severus" (before 200 AD) links fundamentally to Sadducee lines, and that would be viable where elements of Sephar named lake Sevan, location of Soducena. In the beginning, I figured that "Sava" should be a version of "Savona," but afterward I saw something that denied it, though I maintained a close link between the two terms. The difference is that one term traces to "Sevan," and the other to Sepharvites. Near the Setta valley on the Reno river, there is a Savena river that joins with the Reno at Bologna. See the 3rd update of last month, when the Savena was first found, long after it was insisted that Soducena elements were at the Setta.
The Swedish Sewer surname shows just one large rose on a stem, in the colors of the Sach/Sax roses (without stems), indicating Caracalla lines of the Saxon/Septon kind. But the Schere's/Scherfs use the rose on a stem too, and there's even one in the mouth of the Scute crane. It's indicating that Schere / Sheer / etc. terms are to be lumped in with SAER and other Sava-river entities such as Seers / Saiers / Saire's Sauers, etc. There is a huge host of surnames like that.
As per the concept that the Caepio gold bars got to international bankers of the Jewish kind -- the gluttonous cabal that you here about now and then, would-be-rulers of the universe at our expense, upon our blood, sweat and tears -- let's ask whether Goldman-Sachs is one of those bankers. The GOLDmans (Fife) use mariGOLDS on stems, around a chevron in colors reversed to the Quint chevron. Coincidence? Or were Goldmans carriers of the Caepio bars?
As I stared at the Goldman Coat, the Duncan Coat came to mind as a match. I don't know how I knew; after a while I get a knack for this. Immediately after having that thought, the Colman surname was checked to see that "MalCOLM" should apply to "COLMan" (Duncan was father to Malcolm III). Malcolms and German Goldmans even share stags. Who brought the Caepio bloodline to Duncan / Malcolm?
Wasn't it the Kenneth line from Kanza (see 3rd update of November for talk of her) of Aures, now suspect as proto-Quincy's? Wouldn't that mean that the Caepio family at the root of Quincy's was in Aures? Didn't Caracalla's Aurelius elements at the Cabellio theater suggest a trace to Aures' Shawia peoples? Who took the family of Quintus Caepio to Aures? I'll bet that some Gaetuli elements were involved, who later became the Guidi's, but not before they were the Geddes' of Galloway and Dumfries, born from Caracalla's brother. You know, the Geti family of north Africa that was ancestral to Caracalla's father.
Another thought was that the Fife location of Goldmans ought to link to Quincy's mother in Leuchars, important because Quincys are suspect as recipients of gold bars. When the Colman Coat was loaded, there to my surprise was the greyhound head of Luch's/Luke's (Berwickshire). Another thought before loading the Colmans is that the Goldman Coat was that of Arthurs, who should likewise link to Duncans, and so there you have a pelican, the Arthur symbol, in the Luch/Luck Crest. The holy grail of Arthurianism was the Caepio treasure, wasn't it?
The black-on-gold bull of German Luchs/LUKARts should link to the same of the Cole's, thus indicating that Goldmans (and Malcolms) were a line of Cole's / Kyle's / Cole's, who trace to the Colapis river, also called, Kupa, and then the Cope's use roses on stems too.
Why should SWEDISH Sewers use a rose on a stem? I think we need to ask the Swedish husband of Sigrid the Haughty.
The difficulty, which will become the solution, is that Cole's should trace to "Colapis," while Caepio's should trace to "Kupa," suggesting two different entities from the same place. I would tend to see Cole's migrating to Kyle of Ayrshire distinctly from any Caepio liners to rulers in Ayrshire. It just so happens that the English Colmans use a so-called "caltrap," in Crest, while Caracalla-suspect Kerricks (kin of Carricks of Ayrshire) use the same symbol, calling it a "caltrop."
Entering "Calt" gets the Cole's! Presley's, who can be linked to Kerricks even aside from their sharing the caltrop (which Presleys call a "grappling hook"), were first found in Yorkshire, and may therefore have been named after a Brusi term. This situation is explained where the Breuci lived smack at the mouth of the Colapis river.
Let me re-quote from above to show that some trace Bruce's to the raven-depicted vikings of the Orkneys, who are known to have conquered into Rothesay (later called Bute) off the shore's of Ayrshire. Keep your eye out for a Sigrid-like term:
Traditionally, the origins of the Bruce family in the male line have been ascribed to the Norsemen, the Vikings, and a descent has been drawn from Lodver, a Jarl of Orkney ruling in the Northern Isles during the 10th century. His son and successor Sigurt, who was killed at the battle of Clontarf in 1014, is said to have had four sons from his first wife, one of whom, Brusee, supposedly had a son, Rognald, whose two sons, Eyliff and Ulf, have been said to have gone to Normandy, changed their names to Regenvald and Robert, and married respectively Felicia de Hastings and Emma of Brittany...http://www.baronage.co.uk/bphtm-03/bruce-02.html
It's the latter part that seems fabricated for the purpose of tracing these vikings to the Brix location of Normandy. The Eyliff character smacks of the Oliff variation of Olives, who use the Leuchars greyhounds on a Coat like that of the Edmonds and Heths, two Siward relatives (see more below). It seems feasible that "Sigurt" and "Siward" are related terms, very important for the discovery below that Siward was closely related to Sigrid the Haughty.
Let's go back to the Bruce-related, mascle-using Pratts, now understood as a branch of mascle-using Perts, suspected namers of Perthshire. The Pratts appear to be using the black chevron of Perthshire Shaws who use lozenges instead. Drummonds were first found in Perthshire, and then I traced "Pratt" (years ago) to PodeBRADY, where George of Hungary, father of the Drummonds, got his wife, according to some online articles. Podebrady was in Bohemia, a nation that had married Mieszko of Poland, true father of Sigrid the Haughty. We can assume that Pratts got to proto-Perthshire with the landing of George (I traced him to the founding of the Ross clan north of Perthshire), and then got mixed up with Malcolm III in some way, but I also predict that Drummonds merged with raven-depicted vikings in Scotland so as to trace back to Shetland.
But the Pratt mascles, in the colors of the Quincy mascles, are suggestive of a "Quince" equation with "Kenneth," for Kenneths were ancestral to Malcolm. The Kenneths use a large stag, which could go to Hungarians in this picture, though there are other Hungarians to chose from aside from Drummonds. The black Pratt chevron is surrounded by three black symbols, and thus matches fairly the black chevron, and surrounding three symbols, of the Mangels/Mancells, important because the latter share flames in Crest with Kenneths. We already saw that Mens'/Mengzies were of the Siward line, thus tending to clinch a Mens / Mangel link to the early Scottish royals. Reminder: houseofnames claims to show the earliest-possible symbols of surnames, which can be dated in the area of 1050 - 1300 AD.
English Pratts (Norfolk, same as Seagers) use their mascles in gold on black, the colors of the Bradys and Britans, of obvious importance if correct to trace Pratts to PodeBRADY. In the last update, Britans/Bradens and same-colored Bradys were traced tentatively to emperor Britannicus, son of Valeria Messalina, deplorable wife of emperor Claudius, and a descendant of Marcus Valerius Messalla Corvinus. The latter surname means, "raven." The Britans/Bradens were first found in Northumberland (!), and use a bend in the colors of the Walter bend, important because Mangels/Mansells appear to be honoring Walt lines in their motto.
When Bruce's merged with Drummond-related Pratts, the Bruces too could claim a trace back to the same Vikings as the Drummonds had merged with. We are about to see that Drummonds should have, could have, merged with the family of Sigurt of Orkney father of Brusi. However, I'm not so sure that Bruce's descend from Brusi the viking. It's not enough to trace a surname to a similar term. There needs to be more to it. I'm not familiar enough with Norse saga's to comment on how historically-reliable they are. I trust heraldry, however, and yet it needs to be read correctly.
As Sigrid the Haughty was the mother of Cnut, we now recall the "fret KNOT" in the Lacy Crest, for the Lacy Coat (six pellets) shares pellets with the Pratts. Why are Pratts tracing to Sigrid? It must be due to the Mieszko alliance with Boleslaw of Bohemia. When Bruce's merged with Pratts, Bruce's could trace themselves to wherever Pratts had been, and that means Bruce's could trace back to the Norse children of Sigrid the Haughty.
It just so happens that Sigurd of Orkney was called, "the Stout." You can read in the article that Sigurd's mother made him a banner with a raven, though this might be an erroneous explanation for the raven symbol of this family. The page has a link to Brusi (it doesn't treat Brusi as legendary), and then it's at the Brusi page where I learned that Brusi was a grandson of Malcolm II (himself a son of Kenneth III suspect as a proto-Quincy line). The Wikipedia page on Malcolm verifies it by saying that Sigurd was the husband of Malcolm's daughter.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigurd_the_Stout
Siward was involved in the transition of power from MacBeth to Malcolm III, which is where Sigurt traces! Sooo, it means that Siward should prove all-the-more to be related to the family of Duncan (grandson of Malcolm II), and moreover I now have the ability to explain how Drummonds can trace to raven-depicted vikings: George Drummond got involved with the family that produced a wife for Sigurd.
Let's go back to the Roman family of Marcus Valerius Messalla Corvinus. It's a long shot, but where the Messalla Corvinus family traces to Meschin kin, let's recall SYBIL Corbett, ancestor of the wife of le Meschin's son. I'm expecting maunch-using Mangels/Mansells to trace to Masseys of Maunch. I can feel it in my bones that the royal lion of Scotland was that of Ranulf le Meschin. His family needs to connect to the early Scott kings, especially as I trace the first earls of Moray (Randolphs) to le Meschin's first name. The first earl of Moray, Thomas Randolph (Bruce and Carrick connections), used a stag in his Crest, and three mascles in the colors of the Hand/Glavan mascles. That can identify Siward, and his suspected kin, Sybillia, with Randolphs of Moray (where MacBeth ruled), but may also identify Siward with a line from Sybil Corbett. The raven of Sigurd may then be evidence that he was a Corbett too.
Aha! Thomas Randolph died in MUSSELburgh, where I traced the Messalla family!
Isn't it clear by now that Siward's "nickname," the stout, was not a nickname concerning his large size? I thought you might agree.
As Presleys are colors reversed from Cravens, one could expect their "grappling" term to apply to a Craven line, as for example the Gripps/Grabbers/Cravers (come up as "Grap"), or even to the Grapfeld location of German Bebbanburgs, whom we can trace to the Bebbanburgs that Siward married. The idea that Cravens, likewise of Yorkshire, were an early Caracalla line, jibes with Skiptons of Craven tracing both to Lacys and to a BC (early-period) Roman general, Scipio.
The three besants of the Skypps/Skeppers can be construed as those of the Savards/Savarys and Dumas', both surnames tracing potentially to Caracalla's parents. The Gros-like "nickname" of Siward should trace to the Grasse location near Le Mas, where the Dumas write-up traces the Dumas surname.
Like Quints, Winchesters and Stouts/Stows, Cravens use fitchee crosses. Cravens were a form of Croatians, and the Kupa river is smack in Croatia. We thus have two possible routes for Caepio liners to Britain: from the Sava and the Aures areas.
If the Caracalla family brought Caepio liners to Yorkshire, it didn't necessarily include a Caiaphas line, for there must have been multiple lines from Quintus Caepio that did not go to Israel. The suspicion is that the sons of Caiaphas, in leaving Israel, got involved with their Caepio kin of the gold bars. Caracalla was in Yorkshire centuries before Kanza of Aures. I don't have anything by which to see a Caiaphas line in Yorkshire before Kanza's lifetime in the 8th century. The Scipio > Skipton line may itself have arrived from Aures at about that time, though, not unlikely, the Severus presence in York may have brought Scipio's there in the 2nd century.
The fact that Meschins merged with Scipio's of Yorkshire suggests that early Scipio liners in the York area were part of a Massena line from Numidia (though by the 8th century it may not have been Numidia any longer). It had been gleaned that there were Numidians on the Nith river, though I don't know whether they were there when the Geds and Luce's were there as early as the 3rd century. The "copio" motto term at Macclesfield, which itself uses the Davenport fitchee, needs to be addressed along with the Fessy/Vesseys who use the Macclesfield cross, as do Randolphs of Moray. It just so happens that the Hanna's, a branch of Hands that seem to have merged with Hands/Glavans (the latter using the same lozenges as Thomas Randolph of Moray), use a black fitchee cross in Crest, the color of the Davenport / Macclesfield fitchee. The Macclesfield fitchee hangs off of a stag, a symbol also of Thomas Randolph and the Hanna's and Hands, not to mention that Anna's use stags and were first found in Yorkshire. The Fessy can be trace to Fes (Morocco), the power base of the Idrisids of Morocco.
The Fes/Fee/Fay surname, which can be assumed to be the makings of the Foix/Fey lines that became Five's and Fife's, was first found in the same place (Auvergne) as the Aurels. This is tracing the mother of de Quincy, in Fife, to Fes of Morocco, and thus to a Quincy origin in Kanza (Idris' wife). That works like a charm. However, Fessys use a "signo vinces" motto phrase that is tracing doubly to Vinkovci on the Sava, and the Seager line from that phrase goes to Sigurd the Stout, and thus connects to the Flemish elements that Siward's son married. These Flemish elements are not necessarily from north-Africa, you see, but are expected to be directly from the Israeli crew at St. Etienne.
One needs to be a genius to figure out how the lines came together in Britain from as little information as I possess. I just go where the clues lead, one step at a time. Idris was from Syria before he retreated to Morocco, suggesting that he was involved with the El-Gabal bloodline of Caracalla's mother, and therefore had connection with Massena's still in Numidia (which covered a part of Morocco). It is from this picture that I expect the Kenneths (same staghead theme as Anna's) in the Scot kings, especially as the Mangels/Mancells who share flames with Kenneths are expected in the Masseys at Maunch. The fitchee is itself suspect from Normandy's MontFichet location, and as Quints use a fitchee, we can link "Quint" to the Quincy" term, and therefore trace Quints to Kanza...which explains the Quint lion's paw as a Boofima-related symbol. What evidence do I have that Quints were from Quintus Caepio now that Quints are looking like Quincy's?
The evidence is partly in all the Laevi and Sadducee-suspect lines that Quints are linking to, for Quintus Caepio was merged with the Livius family. The Livingstons, for example, who must be a branch of Saddock-related Livings/Levins (part of the Paw bloodline), were FLEMings that the Kenneth flames must symbolize. The Hands are also "Lavan," thus linkable to Levins, and Livingstons are in Heslington colors, making them link-able to the Quincy-related Swords/Clavins. It's the Flemings who are suspect with Laevi / Levi lines out of Hainaut, a term like the Hands / Hanna's / Anna's, and Levi's are suspect from the black lion of Capua's in Italy.
Caracalla and Quint lines may not be so heavily-treated in heraldry unless they represented a Caiaphas line.
There are a host of Caepio-like surnames that are not expected to be derived in "Kanza / Quince." The logical explanation is to trace Quintus-Caepio lines to Aures, and especially to Kanza herself, thus equating Quincy's with Caepio's. While Fessys link both to the Sava and to Idris lines, yet their cross brings us to the Caepio lion, and "copia" motto term, of Macclesfield. We would do well to understand how Caepio lines got to Macclesfield, and that's expected from the Maxwell/MACCUSwell surname tracing to Rijeka in the face of the Kupa river.
The Lascivus term in the Fessy write-up could be from the idea of, L'Asch," which can suggest the Asch/Ash surname sharing multiple black chevrons with Levi's, as well as suggesting the Asbury surname that named Astbury, home of Davenports near Macclesfield. The Asburys are in Fessy / Macclesfield colors, and then the Ashtons and Astons (Shaw lozenges?) both show signs of tracing to the Shawia Numidians out of Aures. Or, "Lascivus" could be from Lesce, a location at the sources of the Sava that I've traced to Leslie's. It just so happens that while Asburys look like they are a branch of Cravens, while "Aston" can link to Craven-related "Acton/Axton," both using the same fesse as Asburys, the write-up of the Craven-related Lacys shows a "Lascius" term to which "Lacy" is traced. The Fessys have brought us to Lacy-related Skiptons, and the latter are showing exactly the stag design of Annabels/Hannibals (Norfolk).
Did Idris know something about the gold bars due to being a Caracalla liner? Why did Idris way over in Syria marry Berbers in Aures? Was Kanza herself a Caepio liner? The gold bars were suspect with the Seager bloodline at MontSEGUR, in FOIX, and then the Fes/Fay surname uses a blue FOX. Why blue? Why does the Leuchars location in Fife smack of "lucre"? The Swan Knight, son of the Grail King, identified easily with the Locks who could have been Lockers/Lokers using "dagger blades," which may trace to BLATand Bluetooth, a Dane king related to Sigrid the Haughty. I insisted that the Swan Knight, Lohengrin," was allied to Carthaginians, and traced his father, Percival, to Percy / Perche liners in the Paris theater, where the Foix/Foy surname was first found that shares pellets with Lacys.
Later, the Siwards are linked to Wears, in colors reversed to Blade's, wherefore see in advance that the Blade's/Blate's, are said to be from Drago de BeWERE. As you can see, Blade's/Blate's are suspect as a branch of Pilate's, and then the pellet symbol, which seemed to link well to Siward lines, are suspect with the Shaw-related Pilate's /Pilotte's, important here because the Locker/Loker dagger blade design appears to be the one in the Irish Shaw Crest. Spinks (Janszoon-related) and Blade's share the black talbot dog.
I cannot recall which surname uses the "burseblade," but the Burse's (gold bars) were first found in a Vire location of a Vassy canton! I had no intention of recalling this when starting on the Fessys/Vesseys above. The Burse town was "Burcey" (Normandy) which jibes with the "De Burgh" ancestry said of the Fessys. We have four Burgh surnames to choose from, the Irish branch using a "foy" motto term to corroborate a Fessy trace to the Fes/Fay and Foix/Foy surname. As Dutch Bergs were showing the triple chevron of Clare's, we can trace the Fes lines from Morocco to the "Commit" motto term of Sinclairs, that being code for Conteville's, born from John de Burgo, and tracing to the earls of Chester. The Dutch Berg Coat now shows three lozenges in the colors of the same of Thomas Randolph and the Hands/Glavans. The Janszoon family was Dutch.
German Blate's/Plate's use a vine, a symbol on the coin of Herod Archelaus. The swan in the Blate/Plate Crest is the design showing until recently in the French Joseph Crest. Josephs were first found in Maine, beside the Orleans area where I've seen "plates" (white roundels) in the Arms of certain locations closer to Perche. It would seem that plates and pellets should all trace to Pilate lines.
It's not easy to lug 750,000 pounds of gold around by wagon, especially before the invention of gears, bearings, and shock absorbers. A convoy of wagons was needed, begging the question of how Caepio's band of thieves escaped with it. One logical idea is to get it on a ship, for smooth transportation, and the sands of Morocco make sense as a good place to hide it. I wonder how much gold detectors are selling for in Fes today. Later in Morocco, the Janszoon pirates appeared. I wonder what they were lugging, and how they got the money to start a piracy industry.
For my treatment on the Janszoon pirates, see the last update in last February, and the first one or two in March. When I realized that Popeye (yes, the cartoon) was code for the Janszoon pirates, it led to the spinach-like Spinks...using FIVE MASCLES (!!), and first found in the same place (Northampton) as Fessys. The Spinks were linked to Sinclair-suspect Sens, and to Senussi-suspect Seneca's/SENESchals (nine mascles on a same-colored BLUE Shield) with a SENEGAL variation link-able to SINGLEtarys, important because Obama was suspect as a Senussi liner at that time. As we just saw Fessys link to Asbury elements, and suspect with Asch's/Ash's, it's notable that Singletarys and German Asch's share a triple chevron in the same colors.
The Popeye theme was gleaned as code for Pepins, which is exactly the family to which I happen to be tracing Siward. There was absolutely no thought of the Janszoon pirates when this update had initially been finished. The Janszoon topic is an addition during the proof read.
Aha! The Sens Coat looks like a version of the Blois Coat, thus explaining the blue Shields of Spinks and Seneca's. Blois is beside Orleans and on the western tip of Maine. The French "Orleanais" my be understood as Or D-Anais, the "gold of Anais."
It just so happens that the Rouens, from Rouen, the capital of Rollo Sinclair, use nine mascles (!) in the colors of the Quincy mascles, tending to trace Janszoon pirates back to Idris (because the latter is now suspect as the root of Quincys), which tends to support a trace of "Quincy" to "Kanza."
I now recall finding the Janszoon pirates on the northern shores of the Firth of Forth, location of Fife! That's where Quincy's mother lived.
Siward was from a pirate peoples, wasn't he? Yes, and I suspect he and Rollo were both Varangians. Siward will link strongly below to Singletarys. Irish Rowans/Rogens, in the colors of Fitch's/FICHETS, use more fitchees, and then Singletarys can be linked to MontFICHETS by way of the latter's obvious links to Mousquette's, who use the antelope design of Singletarys. Mousquette's were first found in the same place as Fitch's/Fichets and Siward-related Heslingtons.
The Rowan/Rogan cinquefoil links the surname to Rowe's and raven-using Rove's/Rolphs (all three use CINQUEfoils), both first found in Norfolk, where Sigurd-suspect Seagers were first found. It suggests that Rollo=Rolph Sinclair was from the same line that put out the Stout vikings from Sigurd. The stag design of Hanna's is shown midway down the Rollo/Rollock page, and the blue-on-white chevron of stag-using Rowe's may be that of the Siward-suspect Hands. Thus, the chequey fesse of Rowens/Rogens links to the same of Sawyers (Norfolk), who look like a branch of Spinks. The raven-using Corbetts use a "pascit" motto term that may be code for Pascals who in-turn use the Templar lamb found in one Rose Coat.
It was the line of Rollo that named the CINQUEport cities at Suffolk and Kent, beside the QUINCys from CUINCHy.
English Savards are mysteriously shown as "Salford," in the colors of Sale's / Salemans / Salmons. I can finally decipher this problem, as the Cavari peoples at Avignon off the river of the Salyes. The CAVARI, you see, smack of "SAVARY," a variation of French Savards. Therefore, the Caracalla line (i.e. that of his father) was at the Orange / Avignon/Avennio theater, and we saw how "Avennio" should trace to "Avion" at Cuinchy / Lens off the Lys river of Artois. In the webpage below, see Janszoon's son in the pirate kingdom of Sale, Morocco, said to be the ancestor of a New York banker with Bayles surname using the Sword sword in Spink colors. Hmm, the Bayles sword is in the color of Blois, and a Bayles variation is "Bellis." The Bayles' sword is also in the colors of Bellow-related Billets, the latter suspect with the Caepio treasure. It just so happens that the Bellow Crest is another black wolf, suggesting that Bellows and Billets were a branch of Bayles/Bellis' as they relate to SALfords, now suspect from the namers of Sale, Morocco.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Janszoon_van_Salee
German Jansons use the double bars of AnnaBELs (and Wassa's / Nests), which may be in play in the Mousquette Coat too. English Jansons were first found in the same place (Northampton) as Spinks and Fessys, thus assuring that Jansons relate to Janszoon, and that they were linked to elements from Fes of several centuries earlier. Later in the update, written before this section on Janszoon, Jansen link to Flecks was mentioned, but I failed to recall that Flecks use double bars too, though not in the same colors as the Jansen bars. Here is what comes later when linking Jansens to Siward lines: "As Samsons can be shown to be a branch of Flecks, it's notable that the Jansen and Ironside Shields are in the two colors of both Felix Coats, and that English Felix's likewise use a gold cross" i.e. as do Jansens (see also "Jansan"), using the Samson cross.
Bayles'/Bellis' use the Sword sword in the colors of the Aude swords, and Aude's are said to be from Audeville in Savoy. If one goes downhill from Savoy along the river of the Salyes, the Cavari area will be encountered. I traced the Corbieres area in Aude, near Rennes-le-Chateau, to raven liners, and then there's a Sigean location at Corbieres. Wasn't Sigurd / Siward suspect with Corbetts?
Caracalla lines at the Lys valley should go back to the source area of the Lys, at a Lisbourg location. The Lisborn surname, sharing the gold boar with Savards/Salfords, uses lozenges in the colors of the ermined Thick/Theck lozenges, which are a colors-reversed version of the ermined Shaw lozenges. The Shawia named the Cavari, in my strong opinion, and, if correct, it identifies Shaws as a line from "Severus." That could explain the Sheaves variation of Shaws, and the FIVE keys of Italians Sheaves'/Chiapponi's.
Why do Cheevers use a "foy" motto term, and why are they traced to a "Capra" term? Why are Cheevers using goats (play on "capra") in the colors of the Geddes fish, while Geddes use "Capta" in their motto? Now that the Geddes motto term is known to be code for Capote's, it's notable that the Capote mule is in the colors of the Cheevers goats too. The Cheevers goat design is used by Italian Capri's/Cavra's/Cravins, in Capper colors. It would seem that "Cheever" is from the "Cavra" variation of Italian Capri's, first found in Piedmont, opposite the Alps from the Cavari.
The Lys flows in Pas-de-Calais, that latter term perhaps linking back to Calava river at Cabellio (in the Cavari zone). The Cavari were suspect with naming Caiaphas due to my long-standing trace of Caiaphas / Sadducee elements to Shaws. Should I shake off any idea that Cavari were involved in naming Caiaphas, because that seems to be explained well by the Caepio's? Or was the Cabellio location related to the Caepio-suspect Capelli surname? Both Capelli's and Cappers use caps. Did the Cabellio location (or its namers) predate Quintus Caepio? Was he descended from that place, or was it vice-versa? The Cavari can trace to "Severus," which jibes with my head-strong sense that Caracalla was a Caepio liner.
Somehow, the Gettel/Gartsen surname, with the blue ravens, links to the Ticino. Somehow, the line to Guido's links to king Alpin, the Pict-Scott transition of powers. The hourglass Shield of Guido's and Skits can be traced to the hourglass symbol of Houstons, and that surname may link to the Hewstone variation of Hesdins/Hestons; the area by that name in Artois is where the Quincy-Kevelioc family union traces. The Kevel(ioc)s traced to "Cavaillon," the alternative term for "Cabellio," and so it would appear that the Kanza > Quincy > Kenneth line may have gone through the Cavari zone.
Capone's use the chevron colors on the same of Kevels, and while Avignon/Avennio uses keys in its Arms, the Keyville variation of Kevels smacks of play on Key liners. English Shaws use "qui" in their motto, and then the Irish-Shaw chevron is colors reversed from the Kevel chevron. When I first came across Cabellio, it felt right to be tracing Caiaphas there.
The Geds formed early (400 AD or sooner), after emperor Geta, on the Nith river (in Dumfries, near Annandale of the Bruce's), where the Nitts/Naughts, first found in Dumfries, traced along with Pilate-suspect Nottings/Nutts. Some say that Canute/Cnut, a contemporary of Siward, named Nottingham, but perhaps it was the other way around: perhaps he was named after Nith elements. Again, Lacy's, who were from Geta's brother, use a purple "fret KNOT" in Crest, along with pellets, and then I think Caracalla's Aurelius name (smacks of a "gold" term) traces to Orrels that link to the torteaux in the Arms of Orleans. The related Orrs use the Guiscard "piles," bringing us back to the Hauteville's, suspect from Sigrid the Haughty, mother of Canute and close kin to Siward. Canut was from the family of Blade- / Blate-suspect Blatand Bluetooth.
The Quint-linkable Tease's/Tighs were first found in Nottingham. Annas', who use a single star in the colors of the Tease/Tigh / Leven stars, were likewise first found in Nottingham. On the north side of the Nith, we find Renfrew, where Orrs were first found. Was there some relationship between Orleanais and the Annas bloodline suspect in Annandale? Ask the Hanan Coat, like the Eure Coat. Orleans is beside Eure-et-Loir, and the latter looks like L'Or. Then, the Laurie's/Lowrie's (grail) were first found in Dumfries.
The Nottingham Coat shows a small gold shield, which at times is code for Placentia, where Ananes Gauls lived, who are expected on the Nith. It would be good to find a work detailing the activities of Quintus Caepio, said by Wikipedia to be in charge of the Gaul regions of northern Italy. Scipio, before him, had built barracks, we may assume, for his retreating soldiers in Placentia, and so the Ananes of that area may have led the effort; out of this situation, there could have been both the birth of Caiaphas and involvement of Annas' very family in relation to Quintus Caepio ( a couple of generations after Scipio's retreat in 218 BC). Caiaphas and Annas' families may have been sent to the Israeli theater as tools of the Roman war effort there, to keep the pax Romana. We should like to know why, and when, the Ananes named Annan(dale).
The official name of the small square in the Arms of Placentia is unknown to me, but it could have to do with the Square/Squire surname. The blue color of the Placentia wolf is now suspect with the Livius > Blois bloodline, and then there is the blue fox of the Fes/Fee/Fay surname. Irish Fie's/Feys are showing the Sword sword design in the colors of the Aude's and Janszoon-related Bayles'/Bellis'. It may be that the "fork-tailed" lion in the Fie/Fey Crest is code for "Forkbeard," the husband of Sigrid the Haughty and father of Cnut. Forkbeard's father was Blatand BLUEtooth.
Nottinghams use a "dexter hand holding an annulet." We saw the annulet with the BLUE Gettel/Gartsen ravens. The dexter code assures that Nottinghams trace to the Ticino, and I'm expecting the Livius family to be from Laevi Gauls on the Ticino. I'm expecting Laevi Gauls in the Annandale crowd. Everything is suggesting that Caepio elements were at the Nith theater, and so the Levi lion in the Crest of Kilpatricks, who had a castle on the Nith, is important. The Levi lion in the Crest is said to have a dexter PAW on a green dragon's head...probably the Guerra dragon that was involved in the formation of the Scots proper.
The Skit-suspect Scute's (BLUE crane) use the Placentia square, in my opinion, and the Mose's/Moss' of Placentia's La Mose area use small squares of their own, called billets. Mose's (who trace to the Meshwesh, owners of the raven) use a BLUE central patee cross, symbol, in colors reversed, of the blue-Shielded Blois'. One can clearly see that Gaetuli elements of the Massena kind were involved. I didn't know while writing here that Siward was in the Sword surname so as to bring Shots/Shute's into his fold. It appears that Siward traces to Placentia elements of the Scute kind, suspect in the formation of the "Scot" term for Scotland.
Trust heraldry. Trace the hourglass of Guido's and Skits to that of Alfreds, and try to figure out how the Guido' bloodline was involved with king Alfred's Bebbanburg line, suspect as the line to Scute-suspect Siward. I kid you not, that it was after writing the above in the proof read, that I tried for a Scoot surname and found Skagul-like variations, the name of the reported father of Sigrid the Haughty! The surname is shown properly as "Scougal / Skugal." It looks to be using the two Lys greyhounds. I do not believe that Skugul was her father; it appears that he was a relative of the Siward line, however, which I'm tracing to Sigrid.
Scoots/Skugals were of Tyningham, Lothian, likely important as per Henry Sinclair of Lothian coming to rule the Orkneys, home of the Sigurd-raven line. I'm half expecting that Sigrid the Haughty was married to Sigurd. The "ornant" motto term of Scoots/Skugals must be for the same surname as the hunting HORN, for the Orne's and also "Horn." They use three herons in the colors of the three Sword swords. I have forgotten which surname above uses three axe's in the same colors, perhaps important because the Wikipedia article of Forkbeard shows him with a sword, and an axe drawn on the chest of his shirt. The Athorn variation of Horns may suggest the Hawthorns, a branch of Hauteville's...that I think were from Sigrid's "nickname." Aha! Hawthorns were first found in the same place (Durham) as Horns/Athorns!
DOUBLE AHA! The Herons, using the Orne/Horn herons in the same colors, were first found in Northumberland! Irish Herons/Heffrons/Haverons, from County Clare (no surprise), use the same three herons on a green Shield. It's obvious that Herons/Heffrons are related to Arthurs, and then Heffers ('MON" motto term) are using the Mathuna's/Maghan lions, that being a surname I trace to the Arthur-studded area of MUNster and neighboring Clare. If all hunting horns trace to this element, it's an important one to Masons. Heffers are now suspect from "Kephali" in the Gerenia are where "Maghan" was traced, thus linking them to Chivele / Kevel elements near Cuinchy, and to the Cavaillon/Cabellio location.
Irish Heffers/Hefferons, using crescents in the colors of the same of Coffers/Coffare's, were first found in Clare. These same crescents are showing, in conjunction with fitchee crosslets, in the Coat of Irish Rowans, and then English Rowans use the gyronny symbol used also my Scottish Mathie's/Maghans...while English Mathie's/Matthews use the triple Clare chevrons in colors reversed. English Rowans are also "Rome," per chance linking to Rome's/Rooms of Dumfries.
Coping with Siward Complications
Whose blue-on-gold lion is the one in the Heffer/Hefferon Coat? It could easily be the Louvain lion now that Siwards are in view in the Heffer bloodline. The Sword sword is even in the Heffer/Hefferon Crest.
Can we trace the Scoots/Skugals to the Scute's already traced to Placentia? Yes, easily. Dexter elements on the Ticino, now suspect with the hunting horn in the Scoot/Skugal Coat, which is in the black color of the Traby hunting horn, can link to Traby elements from the Trebbia river flowing to Placentia. Wikipedia's Traby article, which shows the hunting horns, says that "Traby" derives in "horn," but that's a bunch of ham, because Masons don't want us to know that all of heraldry traces to Placentia. The "weights" in the Dexter Crest link hard to Weights who in-turn use hunting horns in both colors of the Traby horns. Weights use the motto, "Pro aris et focis," the motto also of Heslingtons. Siward-incidence?
The black ostrich feather in the Scoot Crest is called a "writing pen," though it's clearly a black version of the white Traby ostrich feathers. It's been years now where I pegged the Traby/Sadowski 'Q' as code for either Quinns or Quincys, but until now I didn't have the evidence.
Trabys in Vilnius trace hard to the Sire(n)'s, who in turn use weight scales (as do Dexters and Vilnius), and moreover Sire's, suspect with the Squire variation of Squirrels/Square's, show a "justitia" motto term (= the motto in full of Sibals) as code for Justine, wife of Valentinian, explaining why Valents use squirrels too, thus proving that Sire's should be a branch of Squire's/Squirrels tracing to Placentia, expected where Sire's are Traby kin from the Trebia. It's all undeniable, as complicated as it gets.
The Siraud/Siraut variations if Sire's may either be in honor of Sword-related Aude's, or a variation of "Siward" itself, which goes a long way to tracing Sybillia, Duncan's wife, both to Siward and to the Cibalae location. The Sire Coat includes "green snake looking at himself in a mirror," which connects Sire's and Seagars both to the mirror held by the heraldic mermaid, which I have seen described as a "Siren." Thus, that mermaid traces to the Sire(n) surname and is suspect with Siward elements going all the way back to Placentia.
Nicholas de Vere claimed the Melusine mermaid for the Vere bloodline, and traced her as a Vere line to the founding of the Scots from the Picts. It sounds as though de Vere was tracing to the part of Siward's family involved in the founding of the Scots, which now proves that Skits and Scheds were a part of that founding.
Nicholas de Vere von Drakenberg knows, doesn't he, that the Drake wyvern is also that of Guerra's, and he must know that Guido Guerra, a Vere liner, traces back to the formation of Scots too. As Guido's come up as "Guis," the close Guiscard link that we saw earlier to Duncans / Donkeys should apply. This can explain the "deSIRE" motto term of Guiscards. The Guis surname listed with Geddes-suspect Guido's suggests a merger between the Tancred and Geddes liners, but then Geddes had traced to Placentia by what I consider to be the Placentia square in the Geddes Coat. TanCREDs and GuisCARDs are partly named, in my opinion, after Carthaginian elements, and "Tan" should trace to the Tanaro river, home of Montferrats who married Guido Guerra III.
The Babels/Babe's/Bebe's, suspect with queen Bebba's Bebbanburgs, use the Melusine mermaid. That's no small point because Bebba was married to AETHELfrith, leading to AETHELwulf, father of king ALFred, while Nicholas de Vere says that Melusine, or "Milouziana," was the "ELVin Princess." Perhaps he's referring secretly to Bebba. As the English Babels share the same-positioned vertical bars as Britons/Brittanys, the mermaid in the Briton/Brittany Crest must apply to Bebba lines. Britons/Brittanys were first found in the same place (Devon) as English Stewarts.
It's the Britans/Bradens (with an 'a') who were first found in Siward's Northumberland, but as this surname uses the same bend as Gripps, the Britons/Brittanys are suspect at Gripel of Brittany, where Voirs/Voyers were first found.
Nicholas de Vere spoke warmly of a Guines entity, which is a location in Pas-de-Calais, not far from Cuinchy. As this area traces to Leuchars in Fife, it's now notable that Sibals are traced in their write-up to Balgonie, Fife. "Balgonie Castle is located on the south bank of the River Leven near Milton of Balgonie, 3.5 kilometres (2.2 mi) east of GlenROTHES, Fife, Scotland." Levens, who share the elephant with raven-using Corbins/Corbetts, show a chevron in the colors of the Quint chevron, and in the colors of the Hand/Laven lozenges. We are right back to Siward lines. It is my opinion that the Rothes, who use a raven, were the raven-depicted Vikings who conquered and named Rothesay. English Rothes' were first found in the same place (Shropshire) as Levens, thus tracing the Rothes' to "Glenrothes."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balgonie_Castle
I hope you understand that the paragraph above corroborates the trace of Siward and the Stout vikings to Dol's Alens, for those vikings are tracing to Shropshire, where Dol Alans came to roost periodically.
The lion design in the Rothes Crest was showing until last year in the SIX lion heads in the Mousquette Coat. The six lions are now in the design used by Luffs/Love's, first found in the same place (Suffolk) as Mousquette's. The three Luff bars are therefore the bars of Mousquette's, and as the latter surname is a branch of MontFICHETs/Muschets, the fitchee cross in the Luff Crest, in the design of the same in the Stout/Stow Chief, applies. The bars of the Stouts are therefore those also of Mousquette's and Louvain-suspect Luffs. Dutch Stouts use a "plate."
I have been waiting for a Coat that looks like the Sink Coat, ever since it was suspected that "Cuinchy / Quincy" should have provided a Sink-like surname. The Sinks use three white symbols on a black-on-white bend, the same as Sale's (suspect in the name, Salop, where Rothes were first found) and Rothes. The Sink dolphins are apparently those of the Marleys from Morlaix of Brittany. Marleys (in Westmorland colors) smack of Morleys, a branch of Morelands tracing to the same place (Westmorland) as Janszoon elements...which were in Sale, Morocco.
I can't at the moment recall how Janszoon elements were in Westmorland, but it tends to reveal that the two Jansen bars are the two of Mousquette's. Part of the trace was where the white wings in the Crest of Scottish Jansans (with an 'a') are those in the Moreland Crest too.
The Sibal write-up says that Sibals are suspect in Northampton, where Spinks and Fessys (Janszoon elements) were first found.
As Sinks look like they should trace to Salyes, it's probably important that Sinks were first found in the same place (Cambridgeshire) as Julians/Gillians, for they too trace to the river of the Salyes. Capone's and Chapmans were first found in Cambridgeshire, important because SINKs are suspect as a Caepio > QUINCy line. In other words, Caepio liners are suspect on the river of the Salyes, and that river went down to the area of the Cabellio and Cavari entities suspect with Quintus Caepio. It works excellent, especially as the Salyes were in the Dauphine theater, represented by a dolphin, the Sink and Marley symbol. The Dauphine surname likewise uses the dolphin in white.
It may be important that Capone's are in Morley colors, for Sinks look like a Marley branch. Somewhere above there is a surname with a sword through the head of a leopard face, a symbol much like that of Morleys and Morelands (suspect from north-African Moors). The leopard "face" is code for Fessys, no doubt, and they are from Fes, where Quincys ought to have been if they were indeed from Kanza.
It's a no-brainer to link Placentia to the Ticino, so that Ananes and Laevi are common to both. As evidence that Drummonds of Strathclyde (near the sources of the Nith) are secretly named after the "struthios" = ostrich, the Beak Crest is an ostrich while the Beak Coat is what I consider to be a wavy version of the Arms of Trebizond Empire, where I trace "Drummond." Both Drummond surname use three bars. Proto-Drummonds are suspect at the Ticino with the proto-Hungarians.
Again, I trace "Drummond" to "Thermodon," a location near Trabzon/Trebizond. On the Thermodon river there was a THEMIScyra location that named Artemis. I trace "Themis(cyra)" to the naming of the Thames river though southern England, including Oxfordshire and London. The Thames surname (Oxfordshire) comes up as "Tien" or "Tiens," important because the Dagger-related Squirrel/Squire motto uses "Tiens." Just like that, there is a Ticino-river link to the Thames. We really want to know where the elephant in the Arms of Oxford traces, and then while Artemis was the twin sister of the Apollo raven, the Corbetts use both a raven and an elephant.
If we want to know where the red ox in the Arms of Oxford derives, let me repeat: "Sackers, using the bull-head design of Haughts, were first found in the same place (London) as Capes'." There is a blue lion in the Crest of the Arms of Oxford? Sackers were suspect as Seagers, and Seagers are known to be of the Sibals, and so watch and see that Sibals trace to Londons, very interesting for where Sibals are expected to be Caepio liners: "The lands of Balgonie were held by the Sibbalds from at least 1246...The lands and the castle were left to a daughter, who married Sir Robert Lundie..." Lundie's and Londons were both first found in Fife, the place suspect after "Quint." And the fact that house of Balgonie was also that of Leven suggests Quintus Caepio in particular, not merely the Quincys. The London Coat (gyronny) uses the same lion, colors included, as the Fife's.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balgonie_Castle
Scottish Lundys, first found in Fife (use the London Coat), but they use gyronny in the colors of the same of Picards and the Arms of Gironde, thus tending to trace Fife's all the way down to the Garonne river, where the Caepio gold bars were initially found by Quintus Caepio. Are you listening? I thought so. I'm sure you're waiting for me to expose where we could all get a bar of gold each. I can tell you where to get some: the New Jerusalem, with streets paved in gold. Why settle for one bar only?
So, do the Capes' of London trace with Londons to the Caepio bloodline expected in Fife? Whose sword is in the Capes chief as it crosses a branch of oak? Perhaps we should ask the oak leaves in the Heslington Coat.
It just so happens that the Tiens/Thames Coat has a chevron in colors reversed to the Leven (and Quint) chevron, thus proving that the Oxford elephant traces to the Leven elephant. The same elephants heads (different colors) are in the Sanders Coat ("sibi" motto term!), and so let's not neglect the Sands having a fesse and fitchee crosses in Quint colors. The Sands were traced to Saintes, beside Gironde! That's huge where the "sibi" motto term traces Sanders to the Balgonie / Leven Sibals...who traced independently to the Garonne river.
It looks like some gold bars are hidden inside the elephant in the Arms of Oxford.
The broken sword in the Sander Chief (included plates) should be that of Siward liners. After all, the Tiens/Thames Chief uses mascles in the colors of the Hand/Lavin lozenges. As the Levens are the ones suspect with Levente, brother of king Andrew, by what coincidence are Drummonds (birthed from George, Andrew's son) tracing to these surnames? There is no coincidence. It's simply true. Proto-Drummond liners are expected on the Trebbia because Drummonds and Trabys were likely identical. It was Laevi alliance with the Ananes on the Trebia, wherefore we should trace ancient pagan Levites to Trabzon / Thermodon, and even to Artemis. Leuvens, which can be suspect with Levens, are the ones sharing bear paws with Squirrels/Square's/Squire's.
The Hands and Hanna's were traced to Hannibal's Carthaginians first of all, and only later to proto-Hungarians. Initially, I judged that the stags used by Hands, Hanna's, Anne's and Annabels/Hannibals to be a symbol of Hannibal, which conflicted later with a trace of the same surnames to stag-depicted Hungarians. It dawned on me that Hungarians must have linked to Hannibals elements...which may have named the Huns, and I just knew that historian types were rolling their eyes at that idea. Finally, the connection was understood where Hannibal won a decisive war on the Trebbia river against general Scipio. The blue wolf is traced in European myth to Huns out in the far east, but then Placentia uses a blue wolf, you see.
In other words, there was a Hannibal-Magyar merger within the north-Italy families from the killers of Christ, and the proto-Majors/Magors, who can trace to Placentia with the "Capta majora" motto of Geddes, would appear to have been then proto-Magyars. In the east, Magyars were allied to a Pike-suspect peoples (the PECHENegs), you see, and Geddes' use pike fish. The Scottish Pike/PICKEN Coat uses a saltire in colors reversed to the Bruce version of the Annandale saltire. Are we seeing a link to Justine of PICENum? INDEED ZOWIE, for the Bryce branch of Bruces not only show the Pike/Picken saltire, but weight scales and yet another "justitia" motto term!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I can just see the historian types tipping their hats off. Thank you. I will accept. But if I didn't think of this previously, shame on me. It recalls where Attila was making some sort of official deal near the Pek area of the Danube. But that was centuries before Magyars and Pechenegs proper were living in the Ukraine. In this picture, the Bruce-Carrick chevron can be that of the Peks/Pecks, and we can therefore expect the Pek lines of Bruces to bring it the Caepio lion from Cuppae.
Wikipedia reports a Mugel tribe of Huns in the Crimea, and I've gleaned the distinct possibility that "Crimea" named Cremona, beside Placentia. The Crest of the Arms of Hungary uses a tilted cross with round ends. I saw such a cross recently, within the last month, a rare design; if I recall correctly, those crosses were white on green, the colors of the CROMby cross. Scottish Crums/Crombys use a similar round-ended design. Let's not forget that while Quintus Caepio is suspect in the Cremona area too, because Scipio before him retreated from the War of Trebia to Cremona as well as to Placentia, the Croms trace with Vincents to Rennes-le-Chateau...where we expect some Caepio gold bars.
The Shield-and-Chief color combination of the Tiens/Thames' is that also of the Annas Coat, and while the Tiens/Thames were first found in Oxfordshire, bastion of the Vere's, the so-called Vere star, white-on-red, is obviously used in pride in the Annas Coat. It just so happens that another Hawise, a daughter of Sear de Quincy, married Hugh de Vere, 4th earl of Oxford. Coughs/Cuffys use a "TAMen" motto term that may apply.
One can see how the name, Thomas, would be used at the Thames river. Nicholas de Vere, in his book on Transylvanian themes, said that a Thomas de Vere ended up in Blackwood of Lanarkshire. I gleaned, hopefully correctly, that this line was from Hugh D'Avrances to Thomas Randolph, first earl of Moray. The Weirs/Vere's may be using the Moray stars for that reason. The Tiens/Thames Coat is the one using mascles in the colors of the Thomas-Randolph lozenges, and then the Blackwood surname, first found in the same place as Carricks, uses a mascle. If I recall, Marjory Carrick, part of the royal Bruce's, and linked suggestively to Thomas Randolph in his Wikipedia article, was from Lanarkshire.
If the question is whether the Blackwood surname applies to Thomas de Vere, I would say yes, definitely, for even the "per" motto term could be for the Pears, using a version of the Tiens/Thames Coat, and likewise first found in Oxfordshire. I guess that the white Black crescent is that of Falcons and related Conte's, and that Blackwoods therefore trace through Conteville's to Hugh D'Avrances and his nephew, Ranulf le Meschin. The two Blackwood stars would then be those of Maceys, and the white Blackwood mascle would be of a Mieszko line to Mackays at Moray. Remember, Vere's need to trace to duke's of Masovia, probably the ones overseen by Mieszko. In this picture, the Blackwood fesse is that of Bellamys from Ferte-Mace alliances.
I see two sons of Mieszko (Bezprym and Boleslaw) behind the white-on-blue stars of the Bez's (first found in the same place as Conte's and Falcons) and Bole's. These are the colors of the Weir/Vere stars. As I suspected that the Mieszko's brought the Moray/Moravia star to Scotland via Mieszko alliances with Boleslaw of Bohemia, whom I trace to Moravians, it seems that the Vere-branch Mieszko's put the Moray star into Scotland as they got there via Thomas de Vere > Thomas of Moray. The "rectas" motto term of Blackwoods could be for the Rickets, who use the Sword swords in a fashion like the Mackay daggers. As Weirs/Vere's were first found in the same (Roxburghshire) place as Maxwells, I would trace Rickets to "Reka/Rika," the alternative names of Rijeka.
Maxwells share a black-on-white saltire with the Blacks, and that should explain "Blackwood." The English Black chevron is then suspect as the Bruce-Carrick chevron. Why did a Conrad Black own the Jerusalem Post? Did he know that he traced back to Jerusalem peoples? The Black Coat looks like a version of the Annandale Coat.
But as Nicholas de Vere says that Vere's were at the founding of Scots from Picts, it's notable that the Scott surname was likewise first found in Roxburghshire. The English Scotts were first found in the same place (Kent) as Tunbridge Wells and Rickets. Nicholas' book is, "From Transylvania to Tunbridge Wells." The Tunbridge Coat uses crescents in the colors of the Saracen crescents, in Carrick colors. The Rector chevron is colors reversed from the Tien/Thames chevron, and in the colors of the Quint chevron. Thomas Randolph located his lozenges in his Chief, as we see the same-colored mascles of Tiens/Thames'.
Recall: "...the Burse's (gold bars) were first found in a Vire location of a Vassy canton! I had no intention of recalling this when starting on the Fessys/Vesseys above. The Burse town was "Burcey" (Normandy) which jibes with the "De Burgh" ancestry said of the Fessys." That was the Conteville ancestry too, and so Vire should link to the Wyre variation of Irish Weirs. As I trace "Weir / Wier" to Wieringen of the Netherlands, while the Blackwood mascle is in the colors of the Spink mascles, I would suggest that the Janszoon character, a Dutchman, was a late version of the Varangian vikings descended from Vere's.
The Brix surname uses lozenges in the colors of the Blackwood mascle, and the Brice variation suggests the Bryce's of Moray. The question then arises as to whether Burse's were a Bruce branch from Brescia/Brixia.
The holly (Maxwell symbol) in the Weir/Wyre Crest should be that of the Mire's/MIREUX', for the latter were first found in Anjou, where the Falcons should trace as Fulks, and Nicholas traces Melusine (holds a MIRROR) to a Milo de Vere, first count of Anjou. This Milo de Vere (about 800 AD) predates Mieszko, and a generation before Kenneth MacAlpin, first king of Scots, or so they say. The lozengy in the Weir/Wyre Coat can be seen on a portrait of Kenneth MacAlpin, but then the same diamond pattern is on the stocking of legendary Siemowit, the ancestor of Mieszko who would have lived about the same time as MacAlpin.
Everything is shady and quasi-legendary in Kenneth's ancestry. I say he was from Kanza, and that the diamond pattern he's painted with is a sign of Quincy's mascles. After all, the Holly surname uses the Sink dolphin in the same colors. Irish Hollys/Cullens use Melusine. The Alpin Coat is a sword like that in the Alis/Alice Coat, and the latter surname uses "muzzled" bears, a term like "mascle," and linking to the muzzled bears of Mackays. As the Mackay daggers link with Siward lines to Decks/Daggers, it's notable that the father of Kenneth MacAlpin is made, Alpin Mac EchDACH. The problem is, the Irish massacred words to the point of unrecognizability, and, furthermore, the names of these characters may be myth codes to hide the realities behind the rulers.
In both cases, with Alpins and Alis' (Northumberland theater), the sword is the Sword sword, and traceable to Dumnonii of Devon, for Alpin ancestry is taken back to a MacDonald branch. The Excalibur sword that should trace to Devon's capital seems to be in view in this Alpin / Alis sword. The "Vincit" motto term of Alis' must be for Quincy lines. Note the axe on the hip of Kenneth MacAlpin, for the Albert-suspect Halberts (probably from Bologna) use so-called "halbert" axes. English Alberts (savage, sledge hammer) show a griffin in the colors of the Kenneth stag. Alpins were Alberts, weren't they, and Alba was named after Alberts, isn't that right? The HalPERT variation is conspicuous because the surname was first found in PERTHshire.
Here is the Halbert Coat, three axes in the colors of the three Sword swords. We saw three axes in these colors in the Walts/WalDECKs/WalDECKERs, who sure look like they can trace to the Mackay "daggers." The Decks/Deckers (and related Dykes) are in these colors, and use a fleur in Massey-fleur colors. These colors are also used by AXtons, from the same place (Kent) as English Alberts. Axelrods/Haukeswells, first found in the same place (Suffolk, beside Kent) as the Blois' using three dragons in the white-on-red colors of these three axe's.
To prove absolutely that Alberts founded Alba and Scotland, the Walsers, who use a so-called "halberd" axe, show Melusine as well as a Shield split horizontally in the two colors of the same of Decks/Daggers. The latter were first found in Prussia, where I've been tracing "Pressina," mother of mythical Melusine, for years (i.e. not now for convenience).
The Halbert write-up traces the name to "AETHELbeort," but watch it, because it may have been the other way around. "Aethel" should be a HESLington variation. King Alfred (son of AETHELwulf) has a name like "Albred." Again, the Alfred surname uses an hourglass design (my personal term) shared by Guido's, whom, as the Guidi's of Bologna were associated with Alberts of Bologna. The writers of Scottish history apparently didn't want their fellow countrymen to know this. Italians at the roots of Scots!? Preposterous, right?
I read that the leaf species of the House surname was contested and confused, some tracing to a linden leaf. The House's call it a cabbage leaf while Hazels' call it a hazel slip. No matter, it's likely code for the Laevi / Levi's.
I've seen the same symbol called by multiple names according to sound-alike ideas. The Kinners call their bird a canary though Sullivans call the same bird a robin (for honoring the Robin surname, I assume).
The symbol of German Gros' (called a "laurel sprig") is similar to both a linden leaf and to the leaf now showing for both House's/Hauss' and Hazels. As Siward was of Heslington elements that are a branch of Hazels, by what coincidence are we told that his "Digri" nickname is translated, "Grossus." French Gros' use a laurel branch so as to apply to German Gros'.
Moreover, we are told that "Grossus" translates further to "the stout," but then we've already started to cover the Viking branch with Stout surname. After gleaning that Alans of Dol were from the Stout vikings, it's now found that the Heslington Coat shares the Alan oak leaves. It should be interesting to discover whose oak symbol this belonged to prior to the Alans of Dol, whether it was from the Guido-associated Panico's.
There was actually a very good argument for tracing "FORUM Allieni" (early name of Ferrara) to the Forhams/Formans (share footless martins with French Alans and Tiens/Thames'). The point here is that the surname uses two wavy bars in colors reversed to the three wavy bars of German Drummonds, first found in the same place (Hamburg) as Traby- and Trebbia-suspect Trips.
Irish Forhams likewise use footless martlets, as well as a "Lucrum" motto term suspect with "Leuchars, home of de Quincy's mother.
As the Thames flowed through Vere-ville (Oxford), what about the area beside Northumberland called, Tyne and Wear? Might "Tyne" be related to the Tien variation of Thames? If we have already seen cause for George (father of Drummonds) coming to Scotland in 1055 (that info is online as part of an historical document) to assist Siward in his war with MacBeth, then we could expect George's appearance at Northumberland, where Siward's family ruled. That could explain why Stouts, suspect not only with proto-Drummonds, but with Siward's nickname, use three horizontal bars, a Drummond symbol. Note that the Arms of Tyne and Wear use a single wave in the colors of the German Drummond waves.
Reminder: Scoots/Skugals were of Tyningham, in Lothian.
The Wear surname is even in the green-on-white of the Heslington surname, and moreover the Wears share the crosslet design of the Hamburgs and Trips...suggesting a Wear trace to the Varni, whom I pegged as proto-Varangians, important because I claimed that the Stout-raven vikings were Varangians. Moreover, the Seward surname was first found in the same place (Devon) as Wears.
The Wear motto, "Fuimus," is identical to the Bruce motto, which is a good reason for tracing the first Bruce's to Siward. But this may indicate that Siward's ancestry traces to Brixia/Brescia. It was the Lombards of northern Italy who used white and green, and Brescia is in Lombardy. If Caepio's did not enter Britain with the presence of Caracalla's family in Yorkshire, then Caepio entry needs to be found by a different route. Although I believe that Lombards of the Windsor kind were linked by Arthurian myth writers to UTHER Pendragon, it doesn't necessarily reveal that Arthurian elements predated the Otter/Other Lombards who evolved into Windsors. It's a consideration, especially if proto-Otter were dragon-using Cutters (dragons).
The Beth surname from MacBeth uses an otter, and the Beth Coat has three lozenges in the colors of the Comyn garbs, perhaps important because MacBeth's cousin, Comyn-like Coemgain. The latter's grandson, Oengus, was the last king of Moray, and his name Angus name makes him suspect as an Annas liner, important because the Caiaphas-suspect Josephs use three garbs in Comyn-garb colors. The "Fortis" motto term of Angus' may trace to "Fortriu," an alternative name of Moray where the Macbeths and others ruled. Coemgain's father was Mael BRIGti, perhaps the Brixia elements were are seeking. If this is all correct, then Coemgain's family appears to be at the root of naming Comminges. The previous name of Comminges was "Lugdunum Convenarum," and then Lyon was itself previously, Lugdunum. Coemgain's son was, LUGlach. Wikipedia is out to lunch suggesting / echoing that "Comminges" is from "convening."
The Cullums even use three pelicans in the colors of the three Comyn garbs and three Beth lozenges. The Cullums are showing a column in Crest that's revealed as a Malcolm symbol. There was one Mael Culuim, a brother of Mael Brigti. The Brights (Cheshire) use, once again, three gold-on-blue symbols, this time it's pierced stars in the colors of the same of Maceys. It's suggesting that "Brigti" is of the Briquessart surname of the Chester earls, but this does not necessarily discredit a Brigti trace to Brixia, for German Brix's use pierced stars, and French Brix's/Bres' use the lozenges of the Bricks in colors reversed. Aha, Brig's (Yorkshire) use a pelican. It's the Luch/Luke pelican design, no nest.
The big story is that the vipers out of St. Etienne who passed into Mons and Hainaut also married Siward's son, ruler of the same place (Northumberland) as where the Etienne > Stephenson line was first found. The Etienne surname (means "Stephen") was first found in Lorraine, and then the ancestry of Siward's son's wife involves Lorraine when it gets back to Lambert I of Louvain, husband of Gerberga of Lower Lorraine. The Chaplet/Chapleau surname (five swans) was first found in Lorraine, and a chaplet is a special heraldic name for a wreath, used as a "garland" by Stephensons. I have no doubt that Caepio liners were the Chaplets (likely kin of Capelli's using a chapeau) in Lorraine.
By the way, I don't know how long I've been telling that Stephens use pelicans, but they are falcons, not pelicans. Perhaps they were pelicans prior to be changed.
The Lorraine surname shares laurel with the gold-suspect Lowrie's and Lowrys, but as the latter use their laurel in a cup, it evokes what the filthiness that Jesus accused the Israeli priests of, as per their making the outside of a cup (or bowl) clean and beautiful, while inside it was filthy with greed and worldly ambition. If correct that variations of the Lorraine's may trace to the Lurnack and Lorne entities of Lanarks (in the colors of the Lorraine fleur), we would expect Chaplet / Capelli lines in the Lanarkshire theater. The Lanark Coat -- a solid chevron in the white color of the same of Chappes' -- is very comparable to the Donkey Coat, and we saw reasons as to why Donkeys trace back to Quintus Caepio.
Donkeys and Lorraine's were both first found, with Stephensons, in Northumberland! Plus, the Stephen Coat is a solid chevron in both colors of the Chappes chevron! Haven't we got something here? It's the Capote's/Capozzi's who use a mule in Lanark / Geddes colors, and then the Chappes' show a Chapedos variation.
Now, note that "Etienne" smacks of "Tien." Hmm. It was the Square's/Squires, who share a squirrel with the Hazels, that use "Tiens ferme" as a motto. Could this indicate that "Tiens" is code for Etienne? What do we suppose "ferme" is code for? Forum Allieni?
German Brix's use stars in the colors of the same of Kibbles/Kebells/Keeblers who seem to be using a version of the Kevel Coat. The Kibble's are the one's with a chevron in Quint-chevron colors. But here now is a Chavot/Cheve/Cheveau Coat, in Picard colors and first found in Picardy. It's showing Quival and Cheval variations that link excellently to the Chivele / Kevel entity in Pas-de-Calais...which is the Picardy theater too. The variations suggest the key-using Sheaves/Chiava's/Chiapponi's who trace to key-using Avignon so that we definitely have the Cavaillon/Cabellio entity here as it traces to "Chivele."
Could the nine blue and white bars in the Chavot/Cheval Coat link to the Forman/Forham bars? BINGO! I kid you not, that when I asked whether "ferme" could relate to "Forum," I had not yet looked at the Firme and Firman Coats. I wasn't going to mention either one for lack of anything to say. Both use anchors. Then the Forman/Forhan Coat was re-loaded to find...anchors!!! The latter surname was first found in the same place (Lothian) as the Ferme's (in Alan colors).
Compare the six white-on-blue billets in the Etienne Coat with the 11 billets in the same colors of Besancons (see "Besancon" in the last update for some details). By what coincidence was the Besancon surname first found in Forez, a term possibly from "Forum"? I have no idea whether "Forum" is an Italian word meaning something other than the English "forum," or whether the name of Forum Allieni was different to the Italians and then translated to "Forum" by the English.
Variations of the Forez surname include "Forest," and then the English Forest surname was first found in Northumberland. What a coincidence. It shares the gold-on-blue "mill rind" with the English Felix surname.
Let's now go back to the Nordic-Bruce theory: "...Brusee, supposedly had a son, Rognald, whose two sons, Eyliff [Levites of the Lief kind in code?] and Ulf, have been said to have gone to Normandy, changed their names to Regenvald and Robert, and married respectively Felicia de Hastings and Emma of Brittany. On Felicia Regenvald is supposed to have fathered William de Brus, Lord of Brember in Sussex, ancestor of the Braose family." There's that Italian name again, and it just so happens that the Italian Felix' show many Felicia-like variations.
Siward the Haughty
As there was a Felix, husband of Drusilla of the El-Gabal cult which soon-after found a Bassianus family, it seems that this Felix line could trace to "BESANcon," which then merged with a peoples calling themselves after Forez, or vice versa, and from there the Besan-Forez merger came as a Herod-Archelaus line to name Argyll, where Herod/Hurls were first found. For, you see, Forez was the region between the Rhone and the Alps. As we could expect Herod-Archelaus elements in this Forez area, it could explain why the Forez Coat is just like the Herod/Hurl Coat. The Forez surname was first found in Savoy, which is the area between the Alps and Vienne on the Rhone, home of Herod Archelaus. I don't think that's coincidental. I think we can trace Herods with the Forest surname, too.
There is potential here for the proto-Forest line to be an early one into Britain, perhaps even with the coming of Caracalla, at which time the proto-Forests settled Heslington Hill by whatever name it had at the time. The Tout/Toot surname, honored in the "Tout" motto term of Forez', was first found in Yorkshire, you see, and as the Oliphants, suspect as Edomites, likewise use "tout," it jibes with Herod liners in the Forez surname.
There are several locations named, Toothill, one in West Yorkshire. It interesting that the Toothill surname uses the same bend, bendlets included, as the Arms of Blois as per counts of Blois. As it seemed that "Blois" could trace to "BELLIS," by what coincidence was the latter surname first found in the same place (Essex) as the Tuttals/Toothills? Plus, as the Bellis' were first found in Colchester (earlier CAMULOdunum) in particular, it explains the camel in the Derwent/Darwin Crest, for Heslington is in Derwent. Bellows, kin of Billets, the Touts/Toots could trace to St. Etienne.
This is amazing, for there was nothing said initially on the Toots other than their being honored in the Forez motto. The paragraph above was an insert in the proof read; it first started to add to the insights on the blue-apple discussion below, as it relates directly to Blois. But then I learned that the Toothill Crest is a "Cornish chough" (a specialty name for a raven) which is the amazing part because immediately below this insert, the topic turns to the possibility of Heslingtons being a branch of Coughs. When the Cornish chough was treated recently from the Cornell/Cornwall surname ("La Vie" motto phrase), as it traced to a Cornelii family of Rome that was part of the Livius line merged to Quintus Caepio, I failed to check the Chough surname. I mentioned the Coughs instead. I now find that Choughs/Chuffers were first found in Yorkshire!
As Siward is expected from the raven vikings, it's likely that Heslington does trace to this Chough entity. The Bellis Coat even shows the Sword sword in the colors of Toothills. The "Catherine wheels" in the Bellis Coat are suspect with the same of Coulters, whom I traced with Cole's (from of Colchester) to "KOLODziej the Wheelwright," the mythical ancestry of Mieszko, important because the Cough topic below links exactly to Mieszko's daughter.
The Coughs even share bendlets with Toothills and Derwents, while Coulters look like they use a version of the Tuttal chevron, suggesting strongly that Mieszko liners were in Yorkshire. The two chevrons look like they can link to the chevron of Scottish Belli's/Belleys.
For what it could be worth, the Italian Bellis' use "salmon" (in Billet / Etienne colors), but in the design of the Geddes "pike."
I think I understand this TOOTHill link to Mieszko's daughter, for she was married to the son of Blatand BlueTOOTH! His "nickname" was, as expected, code for kin. It's a wonder because "bluetooth" is not a Danish term, but an English one, derived supposedly from a translation of "Blatand." It may mean that the English translators were working overtime to come up with a clever, but false, translation in an effort to link to Touts/Toots. It's noteworthy here that Wheelwrights (Catherine wheels) and Tate's both use the same-type SIX-section Shields. Moreover, Tate's use more ravens, and were first found in the same place (Suffolk) as Blois'! Scottish Tate's (Berwickshire) are using the Shield-and-Chief color combination of Annandale's.
Tate's use "A dexter arm embowed in blue, gold CUFF...holding a pine APPLEe between two ears of wheat in saltire." Again, the blue-apple riddle will involve Blois, and Toothills, now being exposed as a Tate branch, use the Arms of the Count of Blois. It's Toothills who use a Cornish chough that gets the CHUFF surname. As Choughs/Chuff's are in the colors of the Cough fleur, note that the latter also use an "enbowed" term: "An armed man embowed holding a red baton." Both surnames use a sleeved arm.
Consider a "Billet" and "Pilate" trace to "BLATAND."
The alternative-English Tate Coat (more ravens) uses the white-on-blue roses of the Belli's/Belleys (Moray, where I expect the white-on-blue of Mieszko's sons), who are suspect with the Bouillons for three reasons, as you may glean on your own. It's the Swedish Sewers who share the white rose, a symbol of York. Thus, the Toothills and their Cornish-Chough kin from the Roman Cornelii family had found themselves in Yorkshire, and can be linked to Heslington because Aslings use white roses on a blue chevron (as do Belli's/Belleys). Aslings were first found in NOTTINGhamshire, a place suspect with "Cnut," Blatand's grandson.
Choughs use an axe, and may thus link to the Halpert line suspect with Siward lines. The insert is now over.
Caracalla was such a selfish man that I could see him being a Herod liner. If his Severus surname is hint that his family was in the Cavari peoples, then, yes, they could have merged with Herods not far up the Rhone, which could explain why he was born in Lyon. The York Coat itself is, in my opinion, using the saltire of Coopers tracing to a Herod-related Cypros woman. The central besant on the York saltire is then pegged with the Bassianus surname of Caracalla's mother, yet there is the Caepio-like motto term of Yorks to contend with. In Caracalla's day, "York" was not yet the city's name. It was then something like, "Eboracum."
I had said earlier that Heslingtons were first found in Suffolk, but that was wrong. They were first found in Sussex, where Coopers were first found. Heslingtons are in the colors of the Lyon and Lannoy lions, and I do trace Lannoys to Herod Archelaus for using the plumed helmet. This symbol was on a coin of Herod Archelaus along with a vine on the coin's other side, and so recall that Blate's/Plate's use a vine while suspect from Blatand Bluetooth. This Heslington link to Balatand can expose Siward links to Blatand, exactly what's suspect where Siward was from Sigrid the haughty. The other Blate's (strongly suspect with Pilate's), are in colors reversed to Heslingtons. Heslingtons can thus trace to Lyon, and therefore to Caracalla's family. I would have said this earlier had I not confused Suffolk with Sussex.
There is a Heslington part of York. Heslington Hill, where Siwald is reportedly buried, is also called, Siward's Howe, interesting because "Howes" is found as a variation of House's. I'm not suggesting that the House surname was from this hill using "Howe," but that the name may have been code for the House branch of Siward's Heslington connections. See also the Howe's (no 's') for Hoff / Huff / Cough (in Haught/Haughton colors) potential. This is where Sigrid the HAUGHty could come in, for she was married to as many as two Scandinavian kings.
As I and others claim that Sigrid was a daughter of Mieszko I, it traces the House bloodline to the Heths and Mackays, as I'll explain below, at Moray, the domain of MacBeth whom Siward had warred with. If Scottish More's/Moors were of Moray, it's interesting that the Heslington Crest is the same "Saracen's head" as used by Scottish More's/Moors (Ayrshire), though Heslingtons call it a "Scot's head."
My hunch that Siward was of the Duncan bloodline is echoed in Wikipedia's article on MacBeth: "...(Duncan's widow and Malcolm's mother, Suthed, was Northumbrian-born; it is probable but not proven that there was a family tie between Siward and Malcolm)." I don't know whether this Suthed, or "Suthen," was the same as Sybilla. Wikipedia has no article on Suthed, as though nothing is known about her. Perhaps she's a Masonic disguise. One of Duncan's children with Suthed is said to be Mael Muire, ruler of Aethel-like Atholl (Perthshire), and then the More's/Moors are also showing as "Muir."
A Siward link to Coughs/Cuffys and Hoffs can involve Coffers/Coffeys (in House colors, colors reversed to Heslingtons) with Caffey variation that can link with Caffertys/Cafferys (in House colors, colors reversed to Heslingtons) suspect with "Cavari," and moreover Caffertys use the horse-and-rider of Craigs, the root of "Carrick" (according to the Carrick write-up). That can, again, make a Siward link to Caracalla lines.
As Cavari can trace to the Chivele location (Wiltshire) with the Cabellio entity, it's very interesting that Lannoys were first found in Picardy, for English Lannoys share the plumed helmet with Caffertys/Cafferys! This is moreover speaking very loudly for a Caracalla-of-Lyon link to Cuinchy, as expected, but, again, the Lyons and Lannoys are in Heslington colors.
Perhaps I'm stretching this too far, or perhaps it's true: the idea that "Severus" created "Cavari" (or vice-versa) can be put beside "Aurelius," the throne name of Severus' son. While Aurs, Aurels, and the namers of Orange can trace to "Aures," Cafferys/AFFReys and Cavari can trace to the "AWRaba variation of "Aures." It is known that Severus' family was from north Africa. The "aris" motto term of Heslingtons may thus apply to "Aures." Of probable importance is where the Bath/Atha surname uses the Fessy cross in the same colors.
It only dawned on me here [for the first time, yes] that "Heslington" should connect with "AETHELING," the surname of royal Anglo-Saxons who birthed queen Margaret of Scotland, the queen that took over MacBeth's Moray domain. One member of the Aetheling family was Edmond Ironside. I link the Edmond surname -- in Aethel/Athols colors -- to him because it's a version of the Heth Coat that smacks of "AETH." Both Coats are in the colors of the Howe Coat (not to mention the Carricks and Saracens), and the Howe Coat looks to be using two Savard/Salford symbols (black-on-gold fesse and black wolves).
By some coincidence, the black wolf heads of the Howe's are used by an alternative-Irish Mackay Coat, while Mackays were first found in SUTHERland, a term of the Sewers/Shuters. I've always said that Mackays trace back to Mieszko, and so keep eyes peeled for Mieszko's daughter shortly below, to see the significance with Sewer-suspect Siward. Mieszko II was named, Lambert, the name of the Louvain rulers that Siward's son married.
As Savards/Salfords are the ones tracing both to Salyes and Cavari at the Durance, it is very good, for the purpose at hand, that Savards/Salfords (share an engrailed bar with Sale's and Coughs/Cuffys) were first found in the same place (Lancashire) as the Edmonds (fleur-de-lys) showing the Durante ship (in House colors) in Crest, for English Durants use fleur-de-lys in the colors of the Sale's and Coughs/Cuffys, thus tracing Durants to "Durance", the river of the Salyes and Cavari. Moreover, the More's/Moors/Muirs who share the Heslington Saracen head use a "duris" motto term, as well as a "non" term tracing to Numidians. Why are Anglo-Saxons of Britain tracing to the Sales / Cabellio theater?
If you recall, the Fessys (suspect with Baths/Atha's) were from a Lasci-like term, as were the Lacy's, while the latter surname is highly suspect from Caracalla's presence in Yorkshire...before the Aethel term arose in Aethelfrith (Bebba's husband). The term may have been around prior to Aethelfrith. It could be from "Attila" if the Kenneth stag traces to him. Or, the term may be from "Attalia," the alternative name of Antalya which I trace to "Aetolia," an entity of Greek Calydon that I think named the Caledonians of proto-Scotland. The Celts/Colts / Coulters can be suspect from "CALEDonia."
The Durante's using the ship were first found in the same place (Dauphine) as St. Etienne, not far upriver on the Rhone from the mouth of the Durance with the Rhone.
The English Amore surname, which shows yet another black-on-white engrailed bend, was first found in the same place (Oxfordshire) as Tien's/Thames'. The More's/Moors appear to be using a version of the Coat of Weirs/Vere's who trace themselves to the earls of Oxford. What are the chances that this TIEN picture traces to St. ETIENne with Amazons from Thermodon / Trabzon? It's going to happen. It doesn't necessarily mean that St. Etienne was founded originally, and named, by Themiscyra Amazons. It may suggest that Etienne elements merged with Thames-river peoples.
To begin with, Amori's are honored in the Scott motto, and can be identified as a branch of the Scott surname (use two version of the Talbot Coats) by other methods. The Scotts are honored, I assume, by the Heslington phrase, "Scot's head." This head is predicted to trace to Saracens in Sicily, where Italian Amore's were first found. But they are also expected to trace back to north-African Moors of the Amazon = Massena kind.
Amore's (talbot head, Carrick symbol) use three bars that Italian Marina's (suspect with the Myrina Amazons of north-Africa) call "wavy bends," while Spanish Marina's use three of the same-type wavy bars (different colors) of Drummonds, you see, thus tracing this lot to Thermodon. The Damorys/Amori's (blue talbot head), likewise first found in Oxfordshire, use the same three wavy bars (different colors) as Drummonds again, in the colors of the three Amore bends. Moreover, the Damorys/Amori's share a blue bend with Scotts.
The Bassets (suspect with Bissets of the Moray theater) likewise use three wavy bars as per the Drummond bars, and Bassets should trace to the Bassianus line of Caracalla's mother. The point here is that Besancons/Bassets show billets in the colors of the Etienne billets!!! And that's how Scotts, Amore's and other clans suspect with the Tien's/Thames can trace to St. Etienne.
The gold symbols on the blue Scott bend may per chance be the symbols of the Aurels, first found in Aures-suspect AUVERgne, and/or Spanish Urbans. Bends like that of Scotts are used by Meschin-related Talbots, Masci's, Massena's and German Urbans (Piasts > Mieszko's trace to a Bistue location on the Awraba-suspect Urbanus river), thus tracing this lot to the Maezaei (Sava river), where the Mieszko's trace that are suspect at the birth of Siward. The latter, who already traced to the Sava, lived in time to be the son / nephew of Sigrid the Haughty, also called, Swietoslawa.
It was only just now that the Sweit Coat was entered to find two white-on-red chevrons, a symbol also in the Seward Coat! I did NOT know this when insinuating that Seward was a son of Sigrid several paragraphs ago. It just made sense, thus tending to prove my position that Sigrid was not a mythical / fictional character, as Wikipedia's article tends to imply.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigrid_the_Haughty
The Haughts/Haughtons, by the way, using three bars yet again, are, in my opinion, using a version of the Arms of Trebizond Empire. The empire was founded by Byzantine Komnino's that I trace to Comyns/Comminges, namers of Comminges, and therefore candidates for the Caepio gold bars. I didn't know while writing here that Comyns may trace to the Scot king, Coemgain. AMAZINGLY, I wrote the start of this paragraph before re-discovering the "oak branches" in the "BEAK" of the eagle in the Sweit Crest, important because Beaks use the Haught/Haughton bars in colors reversed.
Plus, oak leaves are a symbol in the Heslington Coat. We are now able to undress these surnames to see them stark naked for what they really are. As the Heslington leaves are used by Alans, whose Coat I've deciphered as that of Gore's/Core's (trace to the Sava), it's very likely that the gold-on-red fesse in the Seward Coat is that of the Gore/Core line. One can glean here a Kupa-river origin for the Gore's (kin of Mieske-related Cole's) and therefore for the Sewards, thus making Siward of Northumberland suspect as a Caepio liner.
French Gore's use the three stars of French Alans, but they also show greyhound heads, symbol of the Quincy-related Luchs/Luke's. The Gore greyhounds are in the colors of the French Alan footless martins.
LOOK AT THIS!!! The white roses in the Etienne Chief can be suspect as those of the Sachs/Sax' (suspect as Septon kin) and SWEDISH Sewers!!! Sigrid the Haughty was married to a Swedish king. That clinches the Siward link to "Sewer," and moreover trends to clinch the Siward link to the Septimius line of Caracalla. Scottish Sewers are the ones sharing the fitchee with Quints, and in the colors of the Winchester fitchees.
Saxons/Septons are the one's using a version of the Orell Coat, but there is another Septon/SEFton surname, first found in the same place (Lancashire) as the Saxons/Septons, who use a green spread eagle, symbol of the Henrys...who trace to the Comyns/Commings garbs via Josephs. It's revealing that "Septimius," expected in naming Septimania (the area may have reached into Comminges), was a Herod-Archelaus line at Comminges, and merged there with Caiaphas lines of the Joseph kind, fully expected where Caracalla traced in other ways to the family of Quintus Caepio that found gold and silver bars in Toulouse, smack in front of Comminges.
Somewhere in the discussion above, it was said: "Let's not lose site of the "Cornish chough" used by Cornells who trace to a favorite Cornelii name of the Servius bloodline...suspect from Servitium elements." The sentence has been moved down here for separate treatment because I've just looked up Servitium-suspect terms, and the very first one arrived to, the Service/Surface/Servas surname, uses a chevron in Quint-chevron colors!
Perhaps you missed it. The Cornish choughs are tracing to Servitium, and because the choughs are ravens = crows, it supports my idea that "corvos" was a Greek symbol for Garebites as they became Sorbs, Serbs, and Croatians.
Look at the magnitude of this paragraph. As Quints were first found in the same place (Essex) as Gore's/Core's, it's important that Gore's use a motto term in honor of Servitium elements. Again, the Kupa river had a mouth on the Sava near Servitium, thus clinching a trace of Quintus-Caepio liners to the namers of Kupa. We can expect Caepio liners in Colchester with Cole elements, but then this also helps us to trace the Gabal-suspect Camulos cult at Camulodunum to Caracalla's mother.
The Gore wolf is suspect with the wolf of Yonge's (and Gards) who trace to mythical Juno at the naming of the Una/Oeneus river at Servitium. That explains why Yonge's and Gore's -- and COLchester -- were first found in the same place. Irish Gards are even shown as "Uniack," smacking of "Una."
Without any regard of the Yonge's or Gards, I traced the Jefferson griffin to the Griffin surname. I now see that one Griffin Coat uses the griffins, colors included, of the English Gard Chief, important because Gards and a merger with Yonges while I traced Jeffersons/Jephsons to "Japodes," on the Kupa river beside the Una. It looks like I was correct on that wild idea, but I had some good help for making the link.
The El-Gabal trace to Camulos had to do with Gamble's, first found in Yorkshire but trace-able to the Lys valley of Artois. As Picardy rulers at times spread into Artois, look and see the Gamble fleur-de-lys in the top corner of the Picard Coat! I've only just noticed it, very important because Picards are using the gyronny design (different colors) of Campbells, thus clinching a Campbell link to "Gamble." This very strong means for linking the MacArthurs of Campbells to "Artois."
If the Gamble fleur (their only Coat symbol) links to the Lys' surname founded by Caracalla's Luce / Lacy line, it is necessary to re-mention that Caracalla was suspect in bringing the elements of Herod Archelaus to Britain, which were in Lanark and Argyll, the latter being where Herod-suspect MacArthurs and Herods/Hurls (and Campbells) were first found. This gets Herod liners to Britain in 200 AD, not long before the Arthurian period. It predicts other elements from St. Etienne in and around York at that time.
As I trace "Gamble" to "Iamblichus," an El-Gabal priest, by what coincidence did I speculate that "Sohaemus," an El-Gabal priest at the root of Caracalla's mother, should trace to a Some-like surname while I've just learned that Picardy was on the Somme river!!! The Gamble's must have been on the Somme, especially as the Picards, said to be from Picardy, use the gamble fleur. It's incredible how much heraldry can reveal.
It cannot be coincidental that gyronny-using Londons use "sum" twice in their motto! Londons (and Pepins / Levi's / Caepio's of Landen?) were therefore on the Somme river, which wildly reinforces the theory that Iamblichus named the Campbells. The gyronny-using Londons use the "double tressure" (and lion) of Scotland and will thus trace to the gold bars of Caepio suspect at Blois. We now have the ability to trace "Arethusa," where Sohaemus' ancestors oversaw the El-Gabal sanctuary, to the naming of "Artois" and "PicARDy." I recall tracing the "Gouy" term in the Gore write-up to Gouy location in Picardy. This is informing me that the Caracalla links to El-Gabal were at Servitium on the Sava. Gouy is in Aisne, a place that uses the Champagne / Blois bend. A Guy surname was first found in Picardy.
This particular section of Gamble's is an insert after writing on Abbeyville later in the update, when it is traced positively to MacAbee's in the Argyll theater. At that time, I mention in brackets that Abbeyville is on the Somme river, and ask whether it can trace to "Sohaemus. The Avre tributary of the Somme may apply to "Cavari."
"Some" is a surname listed with Sions/Swans/Sine's, in Picard colors, using the Lanark heart, and first found in Lanarkshire. That is a strong argument, suddenly, for tracing El-Gabal elements to Sion/Sitten. The Sweyn variations of the Sions/Swans suggest Scandinavians. We shouldn't assume that all surname variations trace to an original "Sweyn," which is what the write-up does.
Copelands, fist found in Northumberland, should apply to Siward, especially as the Cope rose-on-stem is suspect with the same of Sewers. Yes, that clinches a Siward trace to the Kupa-river clans. Gamble's use a rose on a stem in the mouth of a crane, and Scute's show a crane too, with a rose in it's mouth. Reminder: Sigrid the Haughty is said to be the wife of a Skagul while Scoots, showing the two black Lys greyhounds, are listed with Skugals.
There have been many Lancashire surnames in this update, but add the Cope-related Copp(e)s to that list, as well as Singletarys. The latter become important to Siward.
Gards traced by multiple methods to the Obama line of Wolfleys, important because the Obama line of Singtetarys use three chevrons in the colors of the two Sweit and Seward chevrons. The English Gard Chief smacks to me of the Seward fesse, therefore. The Gard footless martins are in the colors of the Heslington Coat, colors that Wolfleys use too. Singletarys are the ones using the antelope design of Mieszko-suspect Wheelwrights and Mousquette's. Now we know that Obama's mother was from the Swietoslawa > Siwald line, confirming that her line went back to the Mouse Tower in Goplo.
Sigrid the Haughty is said to have been a daughter of Skagul Toste, and then the Toste surname is registered with the Tuff's/Tafts, first found in the same place (Cheshire) as Dumham Massey and Wolfleys. The Toste's/Tafts use crosslets in colors reversed to the same of Hesdins/Hestons, which expects Toste elements in Artois.
The Taffs/Taffeys use the Mieske arm and sword, further proving that Skagul Toste was a Swietoslawa liner. However, she was not Skagul's daughter unless Skagul was a code for Mieszko. I've been tracing Mieszko to Trabys for years, and then Scoots/Skugals use two Traby-suspect symbols. One of them, the black hunting horn, is used by Hunters and therefore traces well to Huntingdon, where Scaggs (blue lion) were first found. The Scagg chevron is in the colors of the same of Chanuts/Cheynue's.
Taffs use a "signi" motto term as code for the Segni / Seager/Sugar line, which is fantastic because it proves that "SIGRid" is a form of "Sugaar," the snake god.
There is a Tost/Tosti surname (Yorkshire) using a chevron in the colors of the Sweit chevron and Coat, seemingly proving beyond doubt that Sigrid the Haughty was from Skagul Toste. The Tosts/Tosti's look like a branch of Peks/Pecks, first found, once again, in Essex, and tracing to Cuppae. These Coats are in the colors of the Davids/Daffys, indicating, along with the Taff / Taft surnames, a likelihood that Skagul Toste was merged with Daphne liners of the Pek kind from Cuppae.
Suthers, suspect with the Shute-like variations that register "Sewer" as a variation, show the same-colored bend, with black symbols upon the bend to boot, as Davids/Daffys and Davis'. The Misl/Maesel Coat is once again the same bend with a black symbol on the bend, this time a mouse. The Misls/Maesels are link-able to mythical SeimoMYSL at Goplo's Mouse Tower, and thus trace to Mackays, first found in SUTHERland. Doesn't that work nice?
I predicted that the False Prophet would be from the Mousquette bloodline even aside from considerations of an Obama trace to that family. I knew back then that the variations of the Mousquette's are used also by MontFICHETs/Montfiquets (Essex again) using the three Singletary chevrons in colors reversed. I can now add that the Fitch's come up as "Fichet" so that the Quint and Winchester fitchees may be code for both Fitch's and Mousquette lines out of Montfiquet (Normandy). I predicted that the mouse line to the False Prophet would be that of le Meschin, whose son was named Gernon, a surname from Montfiquet.
At the time that these predictions were being made, Obama was suspect as the False Prophet (no longer my suspicion), and George Mitchell was in charge of Obama's ruinous program with Jerusalem. It was curious that the Muschets/Montfiquets came up as "Mitch," while Mitchell's can be gleaned easily as a Meschin branch. It was all looking like the Meschin family was about to undue Jerusalem, triggering the tribulation period. What happened? A lull. John Kerry is now in charge of that area. Obama still has time to do some major damage. Will he?
Here is the Fiquet Coat, using the Coat of the Hyde's who use a "fecit" motto term as code for Fiquets. Mathie's use gyronny as code per Gernons of Montfiquet, and a "Fac et spera" motto link-able to the "Esperance" motto of Fitch's. These terms link also to the motto of Massons/Masons using the blue Louvain lion.
There is yet the question of whether "Hesling(ton)" is a term to be related to "Aetheling." It looks like a possibility. Wikipedia's article on Aetheling would have us believe that the term is generic, supposedly meaning "noble family," but not a surname. The page informs us that a son of Henry I took on an Adelin surname as per "Atheling." It just so happens that a daughter of Henry I was Sybilla.
There was one Adela, mother of king Stephen (England), whose father was Stephen from Laevi-suspect Blois. In the last update, it was suspect that the Livius family married by Quintus Caepio's family led to the Blois surname (from the false idea, which I take as established code, that "Livius" meant "blue"). It may have struck you then, as it struck me, that the blue Caepio lion had to link to the Livius > Blois family, thus explaining why Leuven-based Louvains use the blue lion. I have just found yet another upright blue-on-white lion, in a Jewish family: the Adels.
The Olive's are suspect with "Livius." The Olive perchevron is also that of Adel-suspect lines of Aethelings such as Edmonds and Heths. The Olive's use greyHOUNDs. The Hounds/Houns were first found in the same place, Cambridgeshire, as Lisborns, and uses the same three lozenges as Lisborns, plus ermines in the lozenges...which trace to the ermined lozenges of Thicks and Shaws, thus tracing the greyhound (and Graeae-suspect Greys) to Shawia Numidians. As the Shawia line to Shaws included the Sheaves/CHIAPPONI's, by what coincidence were CAPONE's and Chapmans likewise first found in Cambridgeshire? The Capone's are thus suspect in using the chevron of the Olives, testifying all the more that we are on the Caepio-Livius bloodline. This verifies that the Capone stars are colors reversed in particular to the Heth stars.
Jansons, Spinks and Fessys were first found in Northampton too, which recalls the Olive Oyl code, that being Popeye's girlfriend. I traced "Oyl" as a code (known by the cartoon creators) to the OWL of Spanish Olive's. Many cartoonists had Masonic code on their brains, a pathetic indication of what rules over education. The Howels may be suspect with the Olive owl. Howels suggest the House/Howes bloodline because they use three Murena towers in the colors of the House/Hauss "cabbage" leaves. The Cabbage/Cubbal surname, in Olive and Levi colors, was first found in Northamptonshire too. What a coincidence. The Cabbage/Cubbal Chief has the Levi lion in colors reversed.
It's interesting the Howels were first found in the same place (Monmouthshire) as Kevelioc. Conceivably, "Kevel" is a Howel term, in which case I would trace Howels to Chivele and Cavaillon elements. Unexpectedly, this is revealing the House's to be from "Kephali."
I wonder where the ancestry of king Stephen leads. He's decked out in the colors of Blois at his Wikipedia article. His father was "Stephen II Henry...Count of Blois and Count of Chartres..." Why Henry? His father in turn was Theobald of Blois, brother of another Stephen. Could these names trace to Chappes liners out of St. Etienne? Theobald married Auvergne. His grandfather, Odo I of Blois, married Burgundy. Odo's father, Theobald I of Blois, married "Richildis, a great-granddaughter of Rorgon I, Count of Maine." Ah, that's where the Henry-related Josephs were first found, as well as Billets using the Etienne billets...all in Blois colors.
It's interesting that Rorgon, or "Rorich," was the son of a Gauzlin of Maine, and had two children beginning with "Gauz," while the Goz/Goss surname uses Blois colors, and a chevron on the colors of the Stephen and Chappes' chevrons. I recall being on the Goz / Gos topic and suggesting the Jose variation of Gos' to be short for "Joseph." Possibly, "Jocelyn" is a version of "Gauzlin." Jocelyns (another blue Shield) are shown as "GOCelyn." Their write-up traces to "Goth," but then the Goth surname uses stars in Goz star colors. Josey's (Haddington) use stars in colors reversed to the Goz stars. Jocelyn's show a "mon" motto term.
The only symbol in the Jocelyn Coat is a "wreath," but this can link to the Stephenson "garland" wreath, in the Stephenson surname that happens to use stars in Goz star colors, and a chevron in colors reversed to the Goz chevron. I think we have something here, a trace back to mount Pilat via the counts of Blois.
Aha! The Jocelyn write-up traces the surname to the Bohon surname, and Bohens are the Bone's using the bend, with gold bendlets included, of the counts of Blois! Bohuns/Bone's (use the rare Bruce-Crest lion design) were first found in the same place (Sussex) as Heslingtons. This surname has potential to trace to Bologna.
The "Je voy" motto of the gets no Voy surname, but one French Foy surname was first found in the same place as Chappes', and the other French Foy surname uses eight stars in the colors of the Goz / Stephenson stars!!! The latter Foys even use a bend in the colors of the Blois bend. This is called a hit, a bull's eye. The last time we saw as many as eight stars in white as in the Foy Coat was in the nine used by Bailey's, first found in the same place (Northumberland) as Stephensons!!! That's like shooting a dart into the dart that's already in the bull's eye.
This section on the counts of Blois is an insert after the below was written. You will see the Baileys come up below with a few exclamation marks as per proving a Maccabee point.
At least one Foy Coat above come up as "Foix" too. Irish Foys use a crescent that I link to the Chapman crescent. The Foys using the Chapman crescent show an eel in Crest, symbol of the Shipton Crest where the Coat uses "bellows" in honor of the Bellows that have a Coat like that of Billets, though French Billets are from Maine, where the Gauzlins were ruling. I'm quite sure from this exercise that Goz' and Stephens trace to that Gauzlin family in Maine. So, you see, we seem to be tracing out of the vipers nest at St. Etienne to the marriage of Gauzlins to the counts of Blois, and then to Siward's Northumberland. It's therefore important to note that the other Stephenson Coat is a bend in the colors of the Suther bend (in Seer colors), and that the Suther eagles are in the Seer Coat. The Suther eagle is split into the two colors of Blois.
The Rorgon page has Child-clues to reveal that Gauzlin and/or his wife was a Merovingian line. It's expected if the Etienne vipers had first got to Childeric centuries before Gauzlin. Rorgon sounds like a Varangian, and his period (early 9th century) was contemporary with Inger the Varangian, whose wife was a Rangabe. If I recall correctly, the Rangabe cross is in the colors of the Blois counts. As the Rangabe cross (see it at the Wikipedia article on Michael I of Byzantium) is that also of Bouillons ("belli" motto term, share a Moor head with the Chappes'), it's interesting that while Bouillons were first found in Auvergne, Odo II of Blois married Auvergne. This Odo controlled Dreux castle.
There is another Stephen, Odo's cousin, in the article on Odo II, and yet another Stephen in Odo's son. Odo's mother (Bertha) was of upper Burgundy, which gets us to Etienne. She was from the house of Capet. Her ancestry goes back to Boso of lower Burgundy (Provence), and then the Boso bull design is that of the Charo's/Claro's (Ferrara) who are honored in the English Joseph motto. Moreover, I have seen "Goz" written as "Gois," and then the Gois Crest is a swan, what the French Joseph Coat showed until recently. The Boso bull is partially in Blois colors. Boso's daughter was Guila of Provence, smacking of Guillestre.
If we go back to the start of the Capetian royals, "The first Capetian monarch was Hugh Capet (c.940 - 996), a Frankish nobleman from the Ile-de-France..." Just like that, we have the Capetians, said to be one of the most powerful Frankish dynasties, tracing to the Chappes'. Hugh's article says that his family were "powerful landowners in the Ile-de-France." Perhaps they bought land to hide some gold bars. "The Capetian Kings were initially weak rulers of the Kingdom -- they directly ruled only small [relatively speaking] holdings in the Ile-de-France and the Orleanais..." The Arms of the Capets use nothing but fleur-de-lys, which I assume trace back to Caracalla elements on the Lys river. Do you think I'm correct about tracing Orleans to Caracalla?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Capet
The Capetians are traced back to rulers of Hesbaye in the Hainaut / Louvain zone, where I think Merovingians had made ties with the vipers nest. It goes back to the nebula of history, to SIGRAMnus, grandfather of Ingerman of Hesbaye. If the Seagrams apply, note that they use blue-on-white lions, which could be construed as the lion of Judah in that Seagrams were a line of Jews, and because the color of Israel to Zionists is blue and white. The above begs the question of whether Sigramus was a Seager bloodline from the Sava, and somehow out of Brescia. The Seagram Chief is in the colors of the Annan(dale) Chief, used by Bruce's too in conjunction with their blue-on-white lion.
The Millers, who merged with Levi-suspect Blue's, use a lion in the colors of the Flanders lion, colors reversed to the Hainaut lion, and then the three Levi chevrons were used by counts of Hainaut. It's the Jocelyns who use a "mon" motto term that can easily be code for Mons of Hainaut, for Jocelyns ruled Louvain while having associations with Hainaut, which was the line that Siward's son married.
Now would be a good time to mention the Blue surname (Argyllshire) that includes a Gorm variation. A Wikipedia page on Gorm says that the term means "blue." The Blue write-up says the same. There is a quasi-legendary king Gorm of the Danes. As his father is almost-certainly a myth code, it should prove true that Gorm is a myth code for a Blue line, for Gorm was made the father of Blatand Bluetooth. If Bluetooth's grandson, Cnut, was responsible for the Nottings (white and blue), see that they use a six-section Shield with the Pilate pheons. If Sigramus traces back to mount Pilat, we could expect the Sigurd names of Scandinavia to do so too.
There is more white and blue in the Templar-suspect Baldricks (Northumberland) said to be at the root of the Nottingham surname. The Baldrick Coat is half the Scottish flag; someone in connection to Baldricks probably originated the Scottish flag. The Yorks use half the Baldrick saltire.
Nottinghams use a small gold Shield that heraldry calls an inescutcheon, which may be a triple code for: 1) Innus' / Innis' / Ince's/Inis'; 2) Scoots / Scute's; 3) Keons and Kane's. The Scute's also use small gold Shields.
It's then Bluetooth-interesting that the Tooth surname uses three ostrich feathers in the colors of the three Sword swords. Tooths were first found in the same place (London) as Capes', who use three scallops in the same colors. The Capes Chief shows the Sword sword design. Both the Tooths and Capes' show an additional white-on-red symbol in the middle of their three respective symbols. It looks like a match!
The last time we saw ostrich feathers was the black one in the Scoot/Skugal Crest. The Coat of that surname shows a black hunting horn, the symbol also of Josey's, and then Joseys use stars in the blue color of the Millan stars, important because the Blue/Gorm write-up traces to a Merger with Millans, suggesting that Millans are using blue stars as code for their Blue/Gorm kin. Thus, Blue's, suspect from Bluetooth, are linking to Goz-suspect Joseys that go back to Joseph liners of Maine suspect in Gauzlin of Maine, whose family married blue Blois. The Millan motto term links to the same of Donkeys (Northumberland).
So, you see, we are seeing a Capes trace to Placentia, the first such trace I can recall. And it's going to Placentia with Nordic pirates, the Rosicrucians, right? They put a rose on their cross in place of Christ, and called themselves the "Rosy Cross." There is a Rosy surname using another six-section Shield (with swans) like the Tooth-suspect Tate's. They started out in Norfolk (where I expect Sigramus lines) but moved to Montrose in the Fife theater.
Wikipedia has no link to Sigramnus of Hesbaye (we're back to about 750 AD, Merovingian dynasty). We could ask if the term is something of the old makings of "HASmon(ean)." I didn't know until now that Landen is beside TIENen (Tiens/Thames use a Caepio-suspect Coat). Sigramus' wife, LANDrada (of Austrasia), smacks of Landen, the location in Hesbaye where Pepins originated. This should explain why I'm seeing Pepins behind Siward (his name is also "Sigweard"). Sigramnus is also "SigreMAINE." As the Pepins advanced Charles Martel to the throne, at the expense of Merovingians, at the general time of Sigramaine, it's interesting that Josephs, first found in Maine, use a martlet, likely code for "Martel." It suggests that Caiaphas liners of that place had merged with Carolingians.
At the page below, search for "Sigramnus" to find that Landrada is suspected as a daughter of Charles Martel:
The charter dated 25 May 765 under which [Landrada's] son "Grodegangus...archiepiscopus" donated property "in pago Wormacensi...to Gorze, with the consent of "Pipini...Francorum regis, avunculi mei", suggests that she was Landrada, supposed daughter of Charles "Martel" maiordomus of Austrasia and Neustria. The supposed affiliation of Landrada is suggested by Settipani who quotes an Aquitaine necrology which lists "Willelmus...pater eius Theodericus, mater Aldana soror Hiltrudis et Landradę"[180]. He suggests that "Hiltrudis" was the wife of Odilo Duke of Bavaria, and therefore that all three sisters were daughters of Charles "Martel". The theory is attractive but not conclusive...However, the evidence of the 25 May 765 charter suggests that Settipani“s hypothesis may be correct. http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FRANKISH%20NOBILITY.htm#_Toc169575363
I checked the Lander surname for fun, as Landrada may have been important to the line of Siward, and there was found, in the German Lander Coat (Switzerland), the rooster design of the Heth Coat, as well as bars in Heslington colors. Scottish Landers may be using the eight black and silver vertical bars of Chapman-suspect Foys in black and gold. These colors are also those of Capone's, first found in the same place as Chapmans. Did you spot the Alan fesse above?
The Capone write-up, laughably, traces to "young hen," suggesting the same-colored Youngs figure into this mix. Youngs and Capone's both use a red lion in their Crests. Youngs use a "Roberi" motto term that can be suspected as code for Robertians, who are the Capetians now under discussion.
Lands, in Lander and Heth colors, use a red bend on the same gyronny as used by Campbells.
Did you notice that "Heth" smacks of "HESbaye"? Then, Athels/Athols use three black vertical bars in the two colors of the Lander vertical bars. I don't think that's coincidental. Landers, who are brought up with "Landen," are tracing to Landrada and/or Landons (the latter do not come up as "Landen"). The three Athel bars are in the colors of the three Levi chevrons, and so the same chevrons in Hainaut appear to link also to Landen / Hesbaye elements.
Although the "hen" code of Capone's can be taken for the Heth rooster, there is a Hen surname (in Fitch / Herod colors) first found in the same place (Sussex) as Heth-suspect Heslingtons. Do you think that HESlingtons and Hazels may trace to HESbaye?
The Aslings/Asselins (in Adel and Sibal colors) have just been found, using white roses on stems, the Sewer symbol! That connects Aslings easily to Siward and therefore to "Hesling(ton)." Aslings were first found in Nottinghamshire, a place that can link with "Cnut/Canute," so that now, we not only have cause for tracing Siward to Swietoslawa, but Heslington elements too. The Asling Crest has a white horse that connects well with the white unicorn in the Canute Crest.
If I'm not mistaken, Canute's name is on a stone inscription in Vallentuna (Sweden), and then the same horse design is in the Valentine Crest.
I was just checking to see whether the white Pepin horse could apply. When I clicked to the French Pepin surname (Gascony, same as Martels and Martins), I realized that the Coat could be a version of the Capote Coat. I have been waiting to find a Capote version for days. Note that Pepins are in the colors of Landings, Heths, etc.
English Luce's report a trace to a Luce location near Domfront (Normandy), and then on queen Sybilla (daughter of Henry I), we read: "Sybilla of Normandy (1092 -...1122) was Queen consort of Scotland, wife to Alexander I [Duncan's grandson]. She was born circa 1092 in Domfront, Normandy." As Luce's were a Caracalla line, I would have to suspect his wife's DOMna elements at Domfront. English Luce's were first found in the same place (Norfolk) as Sibal-related Seagers, and then we saw that Sibals were in Balgonie of Fife, while Luce's of the Luch kind traced to Leuchars of Fife. As it's now known here that triple red-on-white chevrons can trace to the two Sweit and Seward chevrons, see such in the French Luce Coat (probably a colors-reversed version, ultimately, of the Singletarys).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sybilla_of_Normandy
Remember: Geds and Luce's starting out on the Nith river strongly suspects Nitts/Naughts and therefore the namers of Nottingham. Nottings use a six-section Shield, symbol also of Wheelwrights, therefore potentially tracing "Canute" to the Mieszko's...as expected where Swietoslawa was his mother. Nottings were first found in Gloucestershire, ruled by a son of Henry I, and that was the line to Keveliocs (= Meschins), who merged with Quincys of Winchester. The Notting/Knutt and Canute Shields are both ermined, I wonder why?
Ermines hit close to home to the Alans of Dol. As the Stouts are also "Stow," I'll bet you an eye patch that "Steward" was fashioned as a mix of "Stout" and "Siward." I would guess that the Stewart pelican is from that of Brig's and Cullums. The Brigs use the format of Sewers/Suters, Saddocks/Sedwicks, Chaddocks, and others of this Sadducee-suspect ilk. At the moment, I'm not tracing the Brigs to Brigantium/Briancon, but to Brixia, home of Hebrews that could have included lines from Peleg, what the pelican may be code for. To help prove that Sewers/Shuters should apply to these surnames, Chaddocks and Scute's were first found in Lancashire, a place that I trace to Langhe of Cuneo. The Langs, who are suspect with the Langdon variation of Landons, use a pelican too. What a coincidence. Do you think Langs were proto-Alans? Did proto-Alans of Dol come from Landen? Can Siward trace to Landen?
English Langs, sharing the oak theme with Alans -- and Heslingtons! -- and first found in Northumberland (!), are said to be from "ATHERic thes langa"!!! What a surprise here. Atheric's name must link to the Atter variation of MacTire's because the latter use the same quartered-Shield colors, and the same MacDonald ship, as the alternative-Scottish Stewart Coat...the one with a white unicorn that I trace to the same of Shetland. Canute's are the ones using a white unicorn in Crest, thus linking the Siward line to Stewarts, right?
Yes, with the Stewart unicorn tracing to Canute, Stewarts trace also to Swietoslawa. "Sweit/Sweet" may even be a corruption of "Siward." Reminder: Swietoslawa, as Sigrid the HAUGHTY, traces to the Haughts using the Beak Coat in colors reversed, while the Sweit/Sweet Crest is a "An eagle emerging from a tower with an OAK branch in its BEAK." Don't we see Alans and Heslingtons in the oak branch?
German Langs/Langens were first found in Luneburg of Brunswick, and share a pelican with Stewarts. You get it: Langs were Alans, or proto-Alans, and they are suspect in naming Landen at Hesbaye, the latter place suspect as putting forth "Hesling," (The Lang pelican design was changed recently, as was the Patterson design, both now showing identical.)
This identification of Alans with a Lang line to Pepins of Landen explains a Pepin line to Siward if we link Siward to "Steward." We have been made to think that "Steward" was chosen as a term to express the support role of Alans in the Scottish royal court, a term like "right-hand-man." But as I see secret code work everywhere bearing itself out as such, I would suggest that "High Steward of Scotland" was a secret Siward code. But as the Pepins to Siward are suspect in going through the Bebbanburg Bernicians, by what coincidence did these Pepins come through Brunswick-Luneburg? Doesn't that explain how "Brunswick" and the "Bryneich" country of Bernicians were connected?
It wasn't many updates ago when I showed the Alan-of-Langhe trace to Brunswick-Luneburg (upright lion in the colors of the same of Louvains) with their Visconti kin, which line I then traced to Vis-de-Lou (origin of the Fiddle surname). In the first update of this month: "Moreover, the original Visconti snake was green on white, the color of the Loose 'perchevron.' If that's not enough, the very section that traced the Alan-Visconti's to Brunswick/Luneburg also traced them to Vis-de-lou, and here we are on a Loose surname with Loohs variation that could conceivable corrupt to 'lou.' " The Loose's, first found in Luneburg, were found after I had traced a Lang-Visconti merger to Brunswick, which is why it was so important that the long, white perchevron of Loose's (in Heslington colors) is curved, virtually identical to the white perchevron of the Ottone's suspect from Ottone Visconti. The Loose crescents are even in the colors of the Visconti snake, now showing blue on white.
The conclusion is that Visconti elements went to Landen with proto-Alans, and that the Visconti elements evolved into the Wishards/Guiscards (share the "pile" with Bamburgs/Bambergs) in the family circles of king Duncan. Pepins use a "quis" term buried in their motto. I don't know how early the Lang-Visconti merger was, but I'm seeing it before Ottone Visconti, first Visconti ruler of Milan. These Milan elements may have become the Millans said to be a merger with Blue's. After all, the Visconti's changed their green snake, suspect with Seagers, to a blue one.
I understand. The Laevi elements on the Ticino went to Landen too. Couldn't that explain why Hainaut got the Levi chevrons? I understand now. Proto-Visconti's were Caepio's, and living beside the Laevi for that reason, explaining three things: 1) why Sforza's, who received the Visconti titles and snake symbol, used the Ferrari lion with a QUINCE: 2) why Ottone's use the Chappes chevron and ANNulets; 3) why the Visconti snake originally uses an infant Moor, the Chappes symbol, in its mouth. At first, I imagined a Chappes-Visconti merger, but now I am taking the position that Visconti's were the Caepio line itself to begin with. It merged with whatever gave the Visconti's their Ottone name. Again, the Oettingens use a saltire in colors reversed to Annandale's.
I had figured that the Visconti's were a Vis entity merged with Conte's, and to prove it, Emma de Conteville married Richard Goz to produce Hugh D'Avrances LUPus (evokes the Vis-de-Loop location) of Cheshire, where the Otone's/Oltons were first found who use a lion partly in Ottone / Chappes colors. The Otone's (one 'n') are said to be from a Serlon de Burcy of Vassey (Normandy), and then the Burcy/Burse write-up traces to Burghs, the root of Conteville's. Again, the Burgo-Conteville's ruled Comyns, and that entity uses the Joseph garbs, which are also the Cheshire garbs. Those Josephs were first found in the same place as Caepio-suspect Winchesters. Burcys/Burse's were first found beside the Landens, and are in the colors of Landers, Lands and Landens and similar others from Landen / Landrada elements. If you recall, the Goz's were tracing well to Gauzlins of Maine (where French Josephs were first found), and that took us back to Landrada, suspect as a daughter of Martel, where we expect Pepins, and explaining the martlet of French Josephs.
It means that the proto-Alans of Langhe > Landon were in the Balgonie > Leven entity as well. I'll show why below.
The Vis-de-Lou location was also Vis-de-Loop, perhaps explaining the wolves = lopos of the Fiddle's. The point here is that Loops use the greyhound design of Lys' and Luchs/Luke's, suggesting the Vis-de-lou was a de-Lys entity and a Luce entity all in one, all Caracalla. It tends to identify Loose's with Luchs/Luke's, begging the question of whether Caracalla's Luce lines went to Visconti's.
The Loper variation of Loops may suggest the Lovers/Levers (said perhaps to have named Liverpool), who use a version of the Ince / Inch Coats, suspect with the Caracalla line of Orells. This is important because I traced "Ince/Inis" to the INSubres, who, if I recall correctly, were on or just off the Ticino river. In that case, shouldn't the Lovers/Levers and namers of Liverpool be from the Laevi Gauls?
I've just checked to re-discover that Insubres were at Milan! Excellent, for Loops had to trace to Visconti's of Milan if the latter are in the name, Vis-de-Loop. "The Insubres or Insubri were a Gaulish population settled in Insubria, in what is now Lombardy. They were the founders of Mediolanum (Milan)." Lanum? Proto Alans? That works to explain an Alan-Visconti merger. The Milan surname shares a tree stump with Brockens, and the Brunswick entity of Alan-Visconti's was, in my opinion, linked to the Alans from Brocken mountain.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insubres
I've read that Insubres were a disgusting peoples. If correct to trace "Annas" to Innus' / Innes' / Ince's, we now have the perfect explanation as to the independent trace of the Annas surname to the Marici founders of Pavia, for Milan is smack beside the Ticino and near Pavia. This tends to prove, especially as the Laevi co-founded Pavia, that the Annas and Angus surnames are one (for Innus' / Innis' are Angus branches). It is the Marici to which Mercia of the Bebbanburg theater must trace. I expect the Budini (suspect as wolf liners) on the Ticino too as per the Boyd-branch Stewarts using a Coat like that of the Marks. The Stewart chequey fesse is in the colors of the same of French Marks. English Marks were first found in the same place (Cornwall) as Landons. English Stewarts were first found in the Cornwall peninsula.
The Stewart and Mark checks trace to the same of Ferrats/Fers, first found in Brittany, and the Massi surname registered with Mattis', using the same checks again, likely trace to Massino-Visconti, a location of the Visconti's in Piedmont. As Massins//Masons use the Louvain lion, it suggests that Louvains trace to Laevi Gauls expected in the Massino-Visconti entity. Louvains thus trace to the Livius family that married Caepio's.
When Wikipedia says that "...lanon is the Celtic equivalent of Latin -planum 'plain'", none of us know enough Celtic language to verify how correct that statement is. I expect many abuses of many languages for to disguise the real derivations of terms. Such abuse is all over heraldic derivations. Lane's could apply, and then Italian Lane's/Lano's were first found in Lombardy's Brescia.
Now that I have it straight that Stephens use a falcon, not a pelican, it needs to be added that English Bamburgs/Bamberrys (Oxfordshire) use "A falcon holding a garland." There are two Stephen codes there, and then Stephens use a perchevron in the colors of the Ottone and Chappes perchevron.
As the Bamburgs/Bamberrys are in the colors of the Bamburg/Bamberg pile, it tends to trace the Bamburgh castle of queen Bebba to Bambury in Oxfordshire. It's notable that Poppins (share a "mens" motto term with Pepins) are in the same colors, for Poppo I of Bamberg is said to be the founder of German Bebbanburgs (later times than Bebbanburgs). The Poppins use a "pristina" motto term smacking of "Pressina," the mother of Melusine, whom the Vere's of Oxford regard as a mother. The Babe/Babel Coat, remember, uses Melusine.
As Siward (= Digri) is also linking to Decks/Daggers (PRUSSIA, may link to Brescia), I'll repeat that I trace "Pepin" to "Papia," a version of Pavia on the river that "Deck" traces to. From here we go to the English Pavia/Pavey surname, said to derive in an unknown (hogwash) "Pavia" term, in the colors of the Poppins and Bamburgs. Pavia's use a red fesse with martlets, exactly expected where Pepins formed the Martel dynasty. The Pavia's look like a branch of Cough-suspect Cofferts, first found in the same place (Sussex) as Landen-suspect Heslingtons.
The Pavis variation of English Pavia's is like the Pavesi / Pavese variations of the Italian Pavia's, first found Piedmont i.e. in the area of Pavia. Like the Decks/Daggers, Italian Pavia's use a Shield split in half horizontally, both using a red half on the bottom side. The two scallops in the top half of the Pavia Shield are in the colors of the same in the top of the Blois Coat.
The scallop in the lower half of the Pavia Coat may be that of the Capes' (Sword sword and an oak branch) for multiple reasons, as for example the Capes' being first found in the same area (London) as English Bamburgs/Bamberrys, and using the Shield-and-Chief color combination in colors reversed to that of Poppins. Moreover, the Popoli's, first found in the same place (Naples) as Capua's/Capone's, use another Shield split horizontally with the red half, once again, on the bottom.
Schwerins, from a Schwerin location in the Luneburg theater, and where I'm tracing "Siward," use the split colors of Popoli's in colors reversed. Beside Luneburg is Lauenberg, smacking of the Lavens/Glavans to which Swords/Clavens seemingly link. In other words, Siward of Northumberland traces to Luneburg! This is so close to Jutland that the Cymbri of Juteland are suspect at the naming of NorthUMBER. The Schwerin Coat is in the colors of the Glavans/Lavans. The Lune surname, by the way, is registered with the Lyons.
The Arms of Brunswick are also split horizontally, in the two colors of the Deck/Dagger Shield, but with red on the top. The Brunswick lion must be that of the Brocks and Stewarts. Shouldn't we expect some Ticino-based peoples at the roots of Brunswick, from Pepins in Bernicia?
If the central black bar were removed from the flag of Landen, the Brunswick / Deck/Dagger Coats would remain. The black-on-white lion that is the Arms of Landen can trace to the same-colored lion of Capua's/Capone's because they were first found in the same place as Popoli's. The Poppys/Popleys (Yorkshire) are in Landon/Langdon colors.
The Longs use an upright lion in colors reversed to the upright Landen lion, and the "quoique" motto term of the Longs can be for the Cuinchy location because the motto's translation includes "CHIVALrous," like the Chivele entity expected near Cuinchy. True, "quoique" is missing the 'n' of "Cuinchy," but then the Quick/Quigg surname uses what could be construed as a gold-on-black chevron, the colors of the Kevel chevron! As Cuinchy is near Mons, it can be repeated that Kevelioc is in Monmouth.
The antelope of the Quicks can link to the Derby/Darby antelope, and then Longfords were first found in Derbyshire. Longfords can be suspect with the Langdon variation of Landons, and then Cuinchy is very far from Landen. The point is, Longfords use three red bars in the position of the same in the Briton/Brittany Coat, a branch of Babels/Babe's now linking fundamentally to Siward of Northumberland, and then Hesdons and Kibble's, who are both trace-able to the Chivele / Cuinchy entities of Artois, were first found in the same place (Middlesex) as the Babels using a blue version of the Longford bars. SURPRISE: we then find that the Derby/Darby chevrons, with three surrounding symbols, are in the colors of the same of Landons/Langdons! I did not know this last part until after writing everything else in this paragraph.
If correct to trace Heslingtons to Lombards, then it should be added that the Lombards of Italy used Pavia as their capital.
On Google's results page for "Insubres," there is a coin of the Insubres with what looks like a wolf on the reverse. It may explain the Loops and the Fiddle wolf. The Lupus surname is registered with the Welfs/Wolfs, first found in Cheshire, and the motto term, "Fides," is therefore code for Vis-de-Loop, meaning that Hugh Lupus was from that entity. It explains why a woman from Dol married a Robert D'Avrances, and why the wolf symbol of Hugh Lupus is said (by Wikipedia) to be from Hugh's "Flaithe" nickname. Rather, it appears that "Flaithe" was from the Flaad name of the Dol Alans. Wikipedia's article on Hugh Lupus once showed his personal wolf symbol in the white-on-blue colors of the Ottone's / Chappes'.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugh_d'Avranches,_1st_Earl_of_Chester
If you click over to the article on Hugh's son, Richard, you'll see that he used a white-on-red wolf surrounded by the crosslets used by Gore's (same colors), and then the Gore's happen to use a white wolf in Crest, and a fesse in the colors of the Lupus/Wolf chevron. This is explained where Gore's are a branch of Alans. As the Visconti-line Conteville's and Goz' created Hugh Lupus, and as they trace to Gauzlins of Maine, it makes sense that both Gore's and Alans use the Joseph / Henry footless martin.
The Gowers/Gore's, in Gore colors and likewise using a white wolf, uses a "FranGAS" motto term that could be for Gauzlin elements. The "flectus" motto term of Gowers/Gore's is now tracing from Flecks to Felix of Judea, husband of Drusilla, whose other husband was Sohaemus of El-Gabal i.e. the same Sohaemus tracing to the Somme river.
Moreover, I trace the footless term to "Foetes" and "Foot" elements, which one can see in the CyFOETH" motto term of Gernons (the ones who took over the earldom of the D'Avranches), and then the Foot and Fido/Fothes surnames, smacking of Fiddle's, are in the colors of Lands, Landers, and Levi's. It is to be expected that the Gernons are of the same elements as the London / Land gyronny, thus linking the Meschin-Gernons to the Caepio line expected in the Balgonie-Leven family.
The star and chevron colors of the Foots and Fido's/Fothes' are colors reversed to the same of Capone's, and the Fido's/Foots use a cornuCOPIA. Hugh Lupus, you see, traces with the Otone's of Cheshire to Burcy/Burgh elements in Vassey, and Fessys/Vasseys use the same cross as Macclesfields while the Arms of Macclesfield uses a "copia" motto term. Thus, Quintus Caepio lines were in Cheshire's earls.
Gowers and Chuffers were both first found in Yorkshire, which is extremely revealing, for the Cornells/Cornwalls use a "Chough" while Chuffers come up as "Chough." The Cornells trace to the Cornelii family that was part of the SERVIUs household!!! The Gore's/Core's use a "servire" motto term!!! Excellent. Thank you heraldry big mouth. It tells me what "noble" families refuse to. It's telling me that Gore's, and the Gorski area at Servitium, were Chuff liners. From the last update: "Servius was never one of the most common praenomina...Most families did not use it, although it was a favorite of the CORNELii and the Sulpicii..."
The Cornells using the "La Vie" code for Levi are using the Stewart lion without doubt, and so let us not forget that the Alans are now pegged most-definitely with the Caepio lines of the Visconti kind. Cornells are in the colors of Macclesfield, and so the CORNucopia of Capone'-related Fido's/Foots looks like part-code for the Cornelii line to Quintus Caepio. See the family tree here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junia_Tertia
In case the tree disappears, it shows Livia Drusus, daughter of Marcus Livius Drusus (probably underscores the Marici link to Laevi), married to Quintus Servilius Caepio the younger (son of the finder of the gold bars). Drusa and Caepio had a daughter, Servilia Caepionis (mistress of Julius caesar who may have birthed Caiaphas' line), who was married to Decimus JUNius Silanus, apparently from Juno elements at the Una/Oeneus river with a mouth very near Servitium. As I trace Yonge's/Youngs to Juno, they should trace to this Junius family, especially as the Young wolf is the Gore wolf design (both surnames were first found in/around COLchester, tracing to the Colapis = Kupa river).
Per chance, "DECimus" named the Decks/Daggers and therefore the Ticino, in which case I would entertain "Segni / Seager" to "Decimus." In fact, after putting out that theory here, I found that the French Jeune surname (as per the "jeune" motto term of Yonge's) uses a version of the Seer/Sear Coat, a surname first found in the same place (Essex) as Gore's and Yonges (!!), and whom I trace to Sauer / Sava elements, as i do Seagers! It appears that we have found a whack of heraldry all tracing to the surnames in the family circle of Quintus Caepio. Why? Because, these were the line(s) to the Israeli chief priests of the kind used for the Sacrifice.
If you recall, I linked the red moline of Seager-related Sibals to the "flory" cross of Bouillons (used in black by Gowers/Gore's), first found in the same place (Auvergne) as French Jeune's. English Jeune's/June's/Genns (in Levi colors) were first found in the same place (Cambridgeshire) as Julians/Gilians, Capone's and Chapmans!! Amazing. Was Caiaphas from the illegitimate son of Julius Caesar and Servilia Caepionis? The sentence above could indicate, yes.
As per the Genn variation of Jeune's, I took another look at the Guines Coat to re-discover the Casey leaves!!! That's important because the children of Decimus Junius Silanus with Servilia Caepionis included Junia Tertia, wife of a Cassius surname. His full name, Gaius Cassius Longinus, may even trace to "Langhe." The Caseys/Caze's (in Wassa/Gaze colors) with the Guines leaves were first found in the same place (Paris) as the Chappes'. Guines is a location beside Boulogne, where the family of Godfrey de Bouillon ruled. That family became the first rulers of Templar Jerusalem, and what we are reading here is superior evidence, that no Mason can dissuade you of no matter how they try to undermine my findings, that Caiaphas liners were in the Templars and Crusaders.
As Guines is in Artois, it is suspect as the code, "GUINEvere," king Arthur's (fictional) wife.
"Gaius" was a big name to the Romans, and may trace to "Guis / Guy / Gois / Goz / Gace / Cass," or Caseys. Irish Pattersons are said to be from Patricks, whom I trace to Roman Patricians that included some of the families now under discussion. Irish Pattersons (camel, can trace to Gore's / Cole's = Kupa elements at Colchester) are shown also as "Cussane," said to be from "Casan," like some Casey/Caze variations. These Pattersons are also said to be a branch of Kissane's, who show as "GUISsane." The CASHman variation of Kissane's assures that this group of surnames links to the Cass/Cash and Kiss/Cush surnames. See also the triple chevrons of Cassane's.
This family of names, especially "Guis," may be the makings of VISconti's. As the Gauzlins of Maine are suspect in these surnames, and as Gauzlins married Blois, by what coincidence does the Patterson Chief use scallops in the colors of the Blois scallops?
Recall now the eight martlets, or eight symbols of other kinds, that surround the Shields of Sadducee-suspect Saddocks/Sedwicks, Chaddocks, etc', for I have just noticed that Irish Pattersons are traced to the "eight Sodhans"!!! If that's now enough, we read that the Sodhans were from Hy Many = Ui MAINE!!! is that too much or what? Don't we expect Sadducees in Maine where Josephs of Maine were Caiaphas lines? Thus, the Casans / Cussane's / Kissane's were Gauzlin liners, weren't they? And the martlets of Saddocks / Chaddocks / Chadwicks are those of the Josephs of Maine, right?
The Sodans/Sowtons, who use the Patterson / Blois scallops in colors reversed, were first found in the same place (Devon) as the Maine's. It's pretty hard to argue against the obvious migratory lines here. Sodens/Sowtons could be anything from Seatons of Saytown to Souths/Sowthe's (Washington bars) to Suters / Suthers / Scute's/Skugals.
I didn't expect to find evidence for the Decimus line so fast, but there is a "decus" motto term in the motto of Chadwick (in Deck/Dagger / Teck/Tess colors).
Still in the family tree above, we find an Atilia that may have led to Aethelings / Athels/Atholls. She was married to a son of Livia Drusa, wife of Quintus Caepio. Atilia's daughter married a son of Servilia Caepionis, and while the latter had an affair with Julius caesar, here's something: "Circa 63 BC, Cato divorced Atilia on the grounds of adultery (she was rumoured to have been one of the many lovers of Julius Caesar), later marrying a woman named Marcia. Atilia is not mentioned again." Suppose that Atilia had a child or two with Julius caesar who ended up in Britain with the Roman invasions...who later called themselves "Athels."
Chatto's (Clan Chattan) have a bend like that of the Blois counts, and were from Chatou of Normandy. Baths/Atha's use the Haddington cross in colors reversed, and the same type cross, in Quint colors, is used by Chataeu's/Castels (Artois). As we can see that Haddingtons may have been Cato elements, it's Heth-interesting that Keiths of Haddington come up as "Keth." That's not a bad start for finding potential lines from Atilia, and while she was married to Cato, it's interesting that the Bath/Atha cross is in the colors of the French Julian saltire. Hmm, it suggests that the Haddington cross (in the red of the Chateau/Castel cross) could be a version of the Julian saltire. The Musselburg area of Haddington traced to Messalina, wife of the Julian liner, emperor Claudius.
Scute's/Skugals (in Tost colors), who use a Shield-on-Shield in the colors of the same of Chadwicksand Chadocks, were first found in the same place as Seatons. The lily of the Chadwicks can trace to the Lys river of the Lille area (Artois) because the greyhound design of Scute's/Skugals is used by Lys' who use the fleur-de-lily in the colors of the same in the Arms of Lille. Why are Sadducee lines in the same place (Artois) as the Sohaemus line of El-Gabal? We could ask the camel in the Patterson Crest, or the one in the Italian Gobel Coat.
Why are Sadducee liners tracing to Skagul Toste? We need to ask Siward of Northumberland who's likely behind the Scoots / Scute's / Shute's.
If Landens were Alans, might Londons have been too? Yes, for Lands share the gyronny Shield with Londons and Lundys of Fife. While the gyronny symbol traces to the Garonne river, especially at Gironde, yet it may be fashioned as a windmill for Dutch links. Landen is near the Dutch border. If you recall, the Sibals of Balgonie-Leven married Lundie's. Queen Sybilla was buried in Fife, where the Sibal surname was first found. Queen Sybilla was a daughter of Lady Sybilla Corbet. Wikipedia has no article on her, probably because nothing is known about her, or because the family didn't want the world to know her details. She could possibly be from queen Sybilla of Northumberland (Duncan's wife). The Corbett surname here may reveal the true origin of the raven used by Sigurd.
The latter Sybilla's mother was of Bernicia, and this Sybilla's father was SIWARD BIORNsson (earl of Northumberland). How then can the Wikipedia writer suggest that Siward's ancestry is unknown? Why doesn't the Wikipedia writer give a passing mention of this other Siward? "Biorn" is said to mean, bear, the symbol expected of Bernicians. I can't be the only person knowing that the three black bear heads in the Landon/Langdon Coat (same bear design) are also in the Norwegian BJORN Coat. Why are we not told that Siwards of Northumberland, and likely the Sybilla's, were of the Pepinid root in Landen? What's there to hide?
See also the upright German Bear bear (used in the Bjorn Crest with a sword), identical in design with the bear of English Bears (first found in the same place as English Stewarts) who use a raven in Crest likely tracing to the Corbett / Sigurd raven lines. Is that the Toot/Tout square in the English Bear Coat? Don't Corbetts use an elephant for Oliphants who use a "tout" motto term? French Bears were first found in Brittany, no susprise.
Sybilla of Northumberland was born in Atholl, represented by the Athel/Athol surname suspect with "Aetheling / Heslington." Atholl is in Perthshire, where Pontius Pilate's mystery mother lived, and then the Nottings use the Pilate pheons. What's with that? As we saw some indication that Siward's ancestry traces to St. Etienne, location of mount Pilat, said to be named after Pontius Pilate, see that the Levi chevrons are in the colors of the three vertical bars of Athels/Athols. Do you think Pontius Pilate's mother was from Atholl, and was she the ancestor of Siward?
As the Nottings/Knutts are suspect from Sigrid the Haughty, consider how the Haughts look like a colors reversed version of the Beaks, for the Perts/Petts, suspect with the naming of Perthshire, use a "beak" code in their Crest description. We also see the Pert/Pett mascles in the colors of the Quincy mascles. Then, seven lozenges, the number of the Quincy mascles, are used by Guys/GUISE's, first found in the same place (Gloucestershire) as Nottings, important because I suspected Pilate's mother in Stirling, with the GUIScards ("pile" suspect as code for Pilate's), first found in Stirling.
The "tutior" motto term of Guys/Guise's suggests the Touts who share a red corner square with the Pile surname (Northumberland) using piles (in Pilotte colors) similar to those of Guiscards. The clinch the Guiscard link to Guys/Guise's, important because they are a Caepio line of the Visconti kind, the French Guys (from Gouy in Picardy) share "buckles" with the Stirling surname.
The Stirlings are said to have ruled a Cadder entity, and then the Cadder/CALD surname shares the stag design with CELTs/Colts/Cults (Perthshire) using the Pilate / Notting pheon in colors reversed. The Cadder/Calder Crest swan is that also of the Guy/Guis Crest. If we ask why proto-Visconti's were at Stirling, beside Perth, perhaps it has to do with a cult / family that grew up around Pilate's mother. Do you think it's coincidental that while Stephensons of Northumberland trace to mount Pilat, the Pile's were first found in Northumberland? French Piles are also "Pilot." It's the Notting/Knutt pheons that link this line to what I'll call, Siward the Haughty, you see.
If you agree with me that Payens/Pagans are using a version of the Etienne-related Billet Coat (Maine), and it you therefore agree that Payens (Dauphine) were at mount Pilate (Dauphine), and if you even agree with me that Pace's/Picenti are a branch of Payens/Pagans, see that Italian Piles'/Pilona's share spears with Italian Pace's/Picenti's. Although pheons are called arrow heads at time, they may be spear heads too.
The "Ardens" motto of Perts/Petts should include Ardons, first found in Suffolk, beside Kent, where Perts/Petts were first found. To the best of my ability to tell, the Ardon bird design is exactly that of Naughtens If Nottens are Pilate liners, why not Naughtens? The blue Pert scallops may link to the same of Sodans/Sowtons, which are a version of the Patterson scallops tracing undeniably to the Blois Coat, and then Blois' were first found in the same place a Ardons. The latter are shown also as "Artois," which is beside the Gouy location of the Stirling-related Guys.
It's then interesting that the English Blois' are traced to the Cher area of France, for Char(d)s use a PARTridge, symbol of mythical PERDix, terms that could relate to "Perth." Later, the blue-apple riddle of Rennes-le-Chateau will link to Blois and CHARTrans, while Char(d)s (blue) come up as "Chart."
We just saw Derbys/Darbys trace to Landon, but also to Cuinchy and to the Kibble-suspect Kevels, but now check out the engrailed, red chevron (suspect as the Quint chevron) of both CHERry's and Kibble's/Kibels.
It's therefore interesting that cherrys are used by Messervys/Masservys also, while they have "valeureux" motto term that could trace to lines honoring Valerius Gratus, the Judean governor just before Pilate, and who raised Caiaphas to the high-priesthood. Messeys/Messiers were first found in the same place (Burgundy) as Pilate's. Burgundy covered mount Pilat. English Messier's were first found in the same place (Lincolnshire) as English Pilotte's.
