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November 5

I suppose we could analyze the latest blitz on Catholics on the anti-Christ spirit already in Iraq, for neither Catholics nor Christians have political clout in Iraq:

"THE terrorist group claiming responsibility for a hostage-taking that led to 52 deaths in a Baghdad church last Sunday evening announced on Wednesday that it now saw all Christians in the Middle East as /legitimate targets.'

The al-Qaeda-backed group, Islamic State of Iraq, had set a Wednesday deadline for the Coptic Church in Egypt to disclose the status of alleged Muslim female converts who, the group said, were being held captive in monasteries.

...AFP reported that the statement said: 'Let these idolaters, and at their forefront, the hallucinating tryant of the Vatican, know that the killing sword will not be lifted from the necks of their followers until they declare their innocence from what the dog of the Egyptian Church is doing.'"

It goes on to give details of the aftermath of the church attack. Note how the necks of the Christians are being targeted, just like Revelation 20. However, I have the problem of not being able to interpret Vatican-honoring Catholics as Christians. I do ask why the Catholic groups in Iraq call themselves "Christians" rather than "Catholics," as if perhaps they have become ashamed to be Catholics.

Anyway, one gets the sense that non-Catholics will soon become the targets merely for trying to make converts of "Muslim-born" individuals. Although missionaries have been targeted in the past for slaughter, the fact that I and some of you are expecting the anti-Christ in Iraq, in a merger with al-Qaeda, makes this development particularly significant.

It could explain why it seems highly unlikely for Christians in the West to be beheaded. No matter how evil the anti-Christian Western leaders, and no matter how much they hate us, their Democracy and their humanistic ethics appear capable of safeguarding us from government-sanctioned beheadings, or any kind of capital punishment merely for rejecting, without violence, the skincode or the False-Prophet solution.

Unlike in Iraq, Christians in the United States have political clout, and Democrats have just felt the brunt end of the bat. Could another Hitlerian situation arise where the national leader secretly murders Christians with the bulk of his military leaders? I imagine that it could work only in a war situation, where communication among the people is severely restricted, for I don't think Hitler would have gotten away with what he did to Hebrews had it been peace-time in Germany. Word would have gotten out too soon and too forcefully.

But what if nearly all Western leaders agreed together to persecute Christians, perhaps secretly, in peace-time? That sort of conniving seems unthinkable unless we view nearly all Western leaders under the same Illuminati umbrella, who must carry out the will of the Illuminati invisibles or face punishment from them. And that's why God is the Leader of Tribwatch, and why He is revealing the roots of the Illuminati (and not only through Tribwatch).

I've had this opinion for years, and now it appears to be going just that way far more than I could have dreamed. The idea is that, with the revelation of what Freemasonry is rooted in, and the simultaneous talk on Biblical prophecy, many Freemasonic puppets will refuse to carry out the anti-Christian agenda of their leaders, and may refuse even though they do not give away to their leaders that they are in opposition. They just won't do a very good job because they realize that we are rightly the lambs of God, and that they are modern-era pirates.

You see, it's a fact that much of Freemasonry and the Illuminati has obtained its puppets by making them believe in their ethical purposes for globalism, as if the masses are ignorant and need to be led like sheep my the wise masters. Every evil act intended to pillage the monies of this world has a good face, just as when an evil ruler puts a good or righteous or ethical face on sending his people to war. But as God convinced these puppets that they are truly working for pirates, they will cease doing their will, just at the critical time, when the non-repentant leaders decide to persecute.

Why do I take every opportunity to point out how evil the Illuminatists are? Why do I "judge" them so badly? It's not the surnames that I judge, for blood is just the life-fluid of the body. I show that all of heraldry leads back to the same Greek and Egyptian cults, the most putrid of them, because all of heraldry was devised by those very cults.

Who decides what symbols and codes a surname will have in heraldry? Who was it that decided to give their surname's heraldry one or more secret codes linking to Hephaestus? It wasn't the Christians among them? You know who it was. It was the pagans among them, those working to keep Hephaestus alive into the modern era. It's ugly, and it's with us today bigger than ever.

Yesterday I got to a trace of the Hephaestus cult to OPS/Opis of the Sabines, and I also touched on what I think are Tolkien-surname variations. And last night I opened an email from Mike who asked me to find the roots of the Oppenheimers (use the red and black witchy combination). I did a little looking, thinking that the surname should link to Tolkien's so-called Hobbits, which I've identified as Hopes, Hobbs, Copes, Hopps, and related Rus surnames. I found that both OPPenheimers and German Hopes use anchors. Haven't anchors been a topic in the pirate discussions until now?

Who are these pagan groups honoring their pirate symbols, who adopted on behalf of their entire family blood the symbols of the worst evil without the rest of the family knowing about it? What a brood of snakes. It's time to dangle these creatures in the open market, to make them ashamed...before God comes to murder them as they have murdered others. The cold blood of their victims cries out.

For the first time ever, I think I just saw little marks along both red edges of the Hobben chevron, visible when the laptop screen is angled backward a little, and being a carpenter myself, I quickly realized that this chevron could be a carpenter's square, another Freemasonic symbol that is always coupled with the carpenter's compass. Perhaps all chevrons are secretly squares.

I just scrolled back to see if other chevrons have the same black markings, and the Hope chevron doesn't, and when I got to the Oppenheimer Coat, and I saw them there too! Black marks all along the red edges of the black chevron-like shape. The same sort of shape is used by the German Kobbe/Kobes Coat, first found in Nuremberg. The Kobbe Shield design is called "tierced."

There is a Tears/Teir Coat with "PER ardua" motto, the "Per" being highlighted for possible links to Perdix, since after all the Arthurian cult was from the Bruttium branch of Perdix. The Tiers look like Argos-based Argonaut pirates, judging from where they were first found in Scotland, and by the ship symbol that they use. The eagle, which I think is the Ferte eagle, is in the colors of the Hope anchor.

BEHOLD. Entering "Tiers" brings up the same Coat but on another page showing different, even Tyre-like, variations. The write-up of the latter traces to carpenters:

"The name Tiers comes from the ancient Scottish kingdom of Dalriada, where it was used to indicate someone who worked as a carpenter or wright. The Gaelic form Mac an t-saoir [smacks of the Sau/Sava river] means son of the carpenter. Most historians agree that their earliest habitations were on MacDonald territories on Kintyre...One legend has the Clan-an-t-Saor (Children of the Carpenter) arriving in Lorne in a galley with a white cow sounds like code for Cretan-bull pirates]..."

Tim had written in lately, after his mention of the Sagan salamander, to remind me that the heart-using (i.e. from the Sava river) Douglas clan also uses a salamander (why are both salamanders on fire?). He wants to know what these salamanders trace to. In the last update page, it was argued there that Sagans relate to the saga=saw invention of Perdix. The surname, after all, seems linked to the German Sages/Sagars, named after "sawyer" (= one who saws wood), and now I find that both the German Sages and English Hopes use rainbows.

There is another Oppenheimer Coat using a sphinx. Tell me, what do Jews and sphinxes have in common? Nothing! Sphinxes are symbols of the stupidity of pirates called pharaohs, who made their people slave endlessly to build such stupid monuments as the pyramids, a total waste of time and labor. Think of the stupidity of building such huge tombs, nothing but tombs, and ask why modern scholars awe over it? Am I not correct to say that modern scholars are fools? Who made the modern scholars? The science-minded Illuminati from science-minded Daedalus.

College has always been an Illuminati enterprise, to educate the masses as the Illuminati desires. It's not coincidental that there are degrees in both colleges and Freemasonic developments...and in the carpenter's square. Degree by degree, the masses are made more like the Illuminati.

The other Oppenheimer Coat shows a black eagle along with the sphinx, and that's the symbol also of the English Hobbs/Hopps Coat. Both eagles are on gold background. It looks like a family match.

The other Oppenheimer Coat uses a dancetty chevron, with NINE gold roundels=besants. The colors of this Coat match those of the Hopes and Kobbes.

As you may know, I came across another sphinx, and reported on it days ago. When I went back to find what surname used it, it turned out to be the Hip Crest. Now I don't know whether that surname links to the hip of Hephaestus, but I am now glad that I recorded it in case it did so, because "Hip" smacks of "Opp(en)." Are those degrees (officially called "PERfesse nebully" (caps mine to highlight possible Perdix code) that we see along the Hip Coat's center line (remembering that "fesse" could be heraldry code for the Fesseys/Vasseys= Wassas=Washingtons)? Are the martlets used in the Hip Coat symbols of Brito-Martis of Crete, whom I now identify with the Perdix (= pagan inventor of carpentry tools) line to Brits?

If you don't believe that the "per" motto term relates to Perdix, I understand. It's a flimsy theory...until we see the "Per" term in the motto of the Carpenter Coat! The Carpenter Crest is a globe (of the earth), the symbol also in the Hope Crest.

Choose sides, world. Either you're going to go the way of the tricksters with secret agendas for humanity, or with the Light of Heaven who reveals all but some of His secret plans for destroying the satanic kingdom. Then again, there are other things that He has not yet revealed, because he wants to keep them a surprise for those who prove worthy of eternal life. Not that I prove worthy, but I think Jesus is intent on forgiving me because he wants to translate me, in spite of my sins, from this world to the one to come, simply because I give him my vote. My hope is in his kingdom, not in the Republicans, nor in college professors, nor in the money of the globalist world, and especially not in fools like those who honor Hephaestus.

There are intelligent fools out there, and they are the Rosicrucians. They have made it to the moon, to Mars, and yet they resist the Creator. They see it all, in all it's splendor, and yet they want to rule it rather than submit to its Creator. Those are the ones marked out for slaughter.

Likely, the Hipkin variation of the Hips links to HOPkins. The Hopkin Crest is the same castle (why is it on fire?) as in the English Hobben Coat, that Coat being in the colors of the Hope Coat. Are those pirate's pistols in the Hopkin Coat? Aren't pistols used to kill?

Why do Cobbets/Cubit (Pratt/Bratt lion) use curved swords from clouds (evokes the "nebully" above)? Aren't swords made to kill? Who was Hephaestus but the maker of weapons for to kill and build empires? Why do we put up with these snakes? Dangle them in the open market, and expose them.

The Cobbet surname, which sounds much like "Hobbet," is said to be a variation of "Jacob," and yet it was first found in Lincolnshire, where we expect the epitome of the Rhodian Rus. What Hebrews were these who included Oppenheimers? ROSicrucians.

As Perdix was also Talos, though some myth writers made them kin, it's conspicuous that the Hopper/Hoppen Coat uses "salus regni" as a motto phrase. I see "regni" as code for Ragnvald, father of Rollo, which was a line from Opland/Upland. That location may not have been named after "up," as we are led to believe, but after the Ops cult of Sabines, for various Swedes trace to Sabines. It was late yesterday that we learned of an Hephaestus-of-Crete trace to the Tatius/Titus cult of Sabines. That Sabine cult and the Ops cult were merged.

The Hawper variation of the Hoppers brought Harpers to mind, and the Harper Coat is not only in Hopper colors, but uses "sauvis," a Sava-like motto term. The Harper boar is passant ducally gorged and crined in red. "Ducally" evokes the Duces/Dukes/Dokes/Tokes mentioned yesterday in relation to the Tolkien surname, but it also reflects "Dougal" (they use a lion in Gascony-lion colors).

"Harper" looks like "carpenter" so that the Harpens of Norfolk might be Carpenters from Suffolk. Hips/Hipkins were found in both places. I'm not suggesting that Hopper-et-all came from the carpenter term. Perhaps it's coincidental that "Harper" looks like "carpenter."

When we enter "Saw," the golden-grail Shaws of Perthshire come up, and that reminds me of the white Zionist star on blue in the Hagar(d) Coat (surname also first found in PERThshire, which I trace to "Perdix"), the color of the Zionist star in the Oppenheimer Chief. Both the English Hague/Haga and the Dutch Hagen Coat use Hagar white-on-blue (Irish Hagens use the same colors). We might suspect that the court (= International Court of Justice) of the United Nations in Netherlands, The Hague, is a Perdix entity to dispel global justice in the last days. I wonder what kind of justice we will get who follow the "Son" of the carpenter of Nazareth?

The Arms of The Hague use a stork with a black eel in its beak. I recall recording an eel; hang on while I go fetch the surname... It's in the Shipton Crest. Shiptons do use black symbols, as do their Faringdon ancestors. We wonder what the Faringdon "bombs" represent. I tried "Bomm" and there were three black pots with flames (strike me like the three black leopard heads of the FARingdons) as though they are linked to the Faringdon bombs.

Bohemians come to mind. I do trace the Bonnes/Bones/Bohuns to Bohemians, and the "bon temp" motto phrase of the Faringdons does evoke that Templar clan. As you may know that I link the Bonnes to Bellamys, so the Shipton Coat uses so-called "bellows," in black, like The Hague eel.

AND FOLKS, this is BIG. The Shipton write-up links to "scip, meaning sheep,", but I had traced that code to Skiptons of Yorkshire, who were merged there with the Cravens of a region by the same name. Just before finding the Shipton eel, I had already looked up the Graven surname, because the Hague was "Gravenhage," and there was the Craven Coat staring back at me!!! THEREFORE, The Hague is definitely rooted in the Shiptons/Skiptons, and their relatives/friends.

I recall tracing the stork symbol of the Oettingens to Yorkshire's Storkhouse, by way of the Storkhouse mention in the English Odin/Oddie Coat. Not only the Odin and Skipton surnames, but the Hague surname, was first found in Yorkshire!

The Odin lion design was mentioned in the last update page, where it was found used by the Talles/Telo surname, but also the Craven-like Garvel variation of the Carol surname. That was entirely Perdix=Berry entity, and now I see that the Carol/Gavel motto includes, "Bello," no doubt representing the same entity as the Shipton bellows.

As the Carrols had been traced to Cher elements of the French Berry theater, so we find in the Shipton write-up: "First found in Oxfordshire where they held a family seat from ancient times, and were Lords of the manor of Shipton-on-CHERwell...". The Char(t) Coat, remember, uses partridges, the Perdix symbol.

There you have it: heraldry has revealed the roots even of The Hague, and though I don't know that the term links to Hagars and Hagens, it can't be ruled pout, for Rosicrucians used double meanings in many of their terms and names, to disguise their blood roots. It was nothing new to Hebrews.

Tim might be interested in the pomegranates of the Carl/Carlay Coat. I don't know if I've shown that Coat before. Likely, "Cherwell" was a variation of Charles/Carl/Carol. The Irish Hopper/Hoppen Coat">Charles Coat not only uses the same motto, with "salus regni" phrase, like the Hopper/Hoppen Coat, but the Charles crowns, are in the same colors as the Oppenheimer crowns.

I kid you not, I opened an old email from Tim last night where he found evidence that a grenade was named after pomeGRANATE because that fruit has many seeds inside like unto the metal bits inside a grenade. I wonder if the pomegranate bloodline links to the FARINgdon bombs. I have suspected that "pomeGRanate" traces to a Garan-like surname, and I'm sure that Fer/Veres have many Gar variations. "Gar" means "war." Hmm, the Geran Coat used there Irish Charles tree (but not the same trunk), and the Save snake. But I'm out of time for today to seek further.

From CC a while back:

"I did not read your Oct. 16th updates until this morning [17th] but wanted to let you know that I had a dream about "Pygmalion" last night and it did not make much sense to me at the time. Also, in the dream, I had named a hunting dog. I remember becoming semi-conscious and remember thinking that it didn't make sense because I would never name a dog Pygmalion! Guess my foggy brain tried to make a little sense of it, and in a fuzzy, vague thought process I thought to myself the word can be broken down as "Pyg" , "lion", and Amalekite. I then went back to sleep. Found it amazing to read this morning [in the update]: "[A P-less] Pygmal-ion" becomes too much like "Ishmal-ion"

I wrote her back to ask if she had read about Pygmalion in any part of the Iraq updates since I introduced him on October 10, and she said, no. Apparently, if it was a message to us from Above, Pygmalion should link to a hunting and/or dog theme. Thus far, the Pygmalion bloodline from Tyre has been linked to the wolf-depicted Scylla, but today even, I may have been tracing Ishmaelites out of Perthshire, for Ishmael's mother was Hagar. Pygmalion might be at the Hague's International Court.

Tomorrow I'll show how Hague-based families link closely to Hitler's bloodline. But now the news...after a nice warm seven-grain bagel with semi-melted cheese.

For the news, I happened to use the browser opened yesterday to Sirenuse, and just as I clicked to the Jerusalem Post, I saw the Hazzard surname in that Sirenuse article. It turns out that the Hazzard Coat uses Hagar(d) blue and white, and being first found in Gloucestershire, I must trace Hazzards and Hagar(d)s to mythical Glaucus (who loved Scylla) because the Hazzard Coat and Crest use scallops.

COWWIE, folks, didn't I just suggest, before having that bagel (it was still in my mouth when I saw the Hazzard surname) a trace of Pygmalion-based Ishmaelites to Scylla? Sirenuse islands were close to Scylla, and myth writers linked the Scylla wolf to the Sirens...who must have been from Seir Horites if indeed we are tracing Ishmaelites. AND I DID trace Hagarites to Horites of Seir!!!

The pirates at large must be stopped by the public torpedo:

"A top UN panel [today] called for increased taxes on carbon emissions and international transport to raise 100 billion dollars a year to combat climate change.

The group led by the prime ministers of Norway and Ethiopia also said there could be a tax on international financial transactions."

The taxes will never end until the peoples shove a torpedo up their...hips.

Obama doesn't get it, he acts like, when denying that the people voted out the Democrats due to his pillaging the Americans. He's trying to blame his election disaster on lack of communication with the people, or with failing to win the public over to his agenda, as if he has no idea that maybe he needs to bring his agenda over to what the people want! Like less taxes and less expenditures of THEIR money. But Obama is a global animal and he will not stop behaving like one just because he lost the latest political conflict.

A German press has much to say that we all know anyway:

"It was a failure of historic proportions. With US President Barack Obama's Democrats having lost control of the House, there seems little hope for progress during his two remaining years, say German commentators. Obama himself, they say, bears much of the blame.

...Though the Democrats narrowly were able to keep control of the Senate, the Republicans, who rode the wave of anti-incumbent sentiment and populist anger over the economy into office, now have the power to determine the House's legislative agenda -- and to block Obama proposals. Indeed, Republican leaders in the House have already promised that their first order of business will be to repeal Obama's health care reform -- his signature achievement.

Several German opinion-makers were clear that the election was more of a referendum on the president, who comes across as 'cold, arrogant, and elitist,' and less of an endorsement of the Republicans and their policies...

But the biggest challenge for Europeans appears to be understanding the role of the Tea Party activists -- described as the "true victors" of Tuesday's elections -- and predicting what kind of influence they will have over the next two years.

Congressman John Boehner, the Republican from Ohio who stands to be the next Speaker of the House -- and third in line for the presidency -- made his first call on election night to supporters of the Tea Party movement in southern Ohio, and according to The Washington Post, told them: 'I'll never let you down.'

...'In Western Europe Obama still enjoys almost messianic approval ratings of 80 percent. Nowhere else on earth regards Obama's program as more self-evident. Reforms such as health insurance for all, an active state and more environmental and climate protection are seen as catch-up Europeanization, a simple normalization. Millions of Americans, on the other hand, see this as an audacious if not revolutionary agenda to serve the interests of the state.'

...More than $800 billion (€ 562 billion) was supposed to stimulate the economy -- but the unemployment rate has stagnated at almost 10 percent....

...'Two years ago his vision inspired voters. Today the same man often sounds strangely bloodless. Back then his cool, self-assured composure impressed many, now the same character comes across as cold, arrogant, even elitist...Obama's historic victory in 2008 was created by the middle of American society -- the independent voters and the suburbanites. It is this center that has abandoned him.'"

The article goes on and on, suggesting that it wasn't Republican strength that won the day, but disappointment in Obama. But that's because Europeans hate the American Republicans, thinking them to be Christians. The fact is, the people are now thinking that the Republican way of less-government and less-taxes is the way to go, and that amounts to Republican strength.

However, Republican privates have enormous money-sucking abilities and machines, and they don't want governments taking their corporate money for re-distribution. Hmm, I wonder if "private" is rooted in "pirate." Corporations would rather see the work-ethic because workers are good for corporations while welfare cases are not. But we should not confuse this "slave"-based work-ethic with the Biblical work-ethic that guards against laziness and irresponsibility.

In a nutshell, Obama is the nut. And he's been cracked. The squirrels are now back in power, who promise Christians the whole forest but deliver mere peat bog.

November 6

I can't recall whether my trace of the Hiedler/Hitler surname included one to the Hague surname, but I do recall tracing Hitlers to Hagels and Hagars because, for one, the German/Bavarian Heid surname (with what I consider the Rothschild arrow) shows a HAGELsheimer variation.

Yesterday's emphasis on the anchor-using Oppenheimers, and its links to anchor-using Hopes, touched on the Hiedler/Hitler investigation (of months ago) because the Hope surname was part of that too, not only because the Heidler ('e' before 'i') Coat also uses an anchor, but because Hope variations include "Hood." PLUS, when we enter "Hood," we get an anchor in the color of the Heidler (and Oppenheimer) anchor in the English Hood/Hudd Coat.

I've read the write-up of the Hiedler/Hitler Coat several times and have known of its stated derivation in "Huttler," but now I read the write-up with Perdix in mind because: "Finally, the [Hiedler] name may be a variant of the surname 'Huttler' or 'Hutter,' both derived from the German word 'Hüttler,' meaning 'carpenter.'"

This topic was brought back to the fore yesterday when I saw the Hate variation of the Hague surname. The idea coming to mind is that bloodlines honoring Hagar, mother of Ishmael, were also Hates, Heids, and Hitlers. It certainly explains why Hitler hated Jews, as Ishmaelites hated Israelites, and were in competition with them for the God-given glory of Abraham.

The Hague surname (which was VERY IMPORTANT yesterday) uses a "sola" motto term while the Hiedler/Hitler surname uses a sun (and stars in Bauer colors). The Haight variation of the Hagues may reveal how the terms morphed into "Hate" and "Hied/Heid." The "invicta" motto term of the Hagues/Hates may be code for the entity that named Inverness, for the Hagee surname (heart, MacDonald=Argo ship) was first found there. (I'm ignoring the write-up's trace to "son of Adam," though I sense some hidden significance in that claim).

The cat's not quite out of the bag on whether "Hesse" traces to "Esau," but the Catti cat is definitely a part of Hesse. Note the similarity between the Heidler Coat and the Chattan Coat, not neglecting the similarity between the Heidler and Hiedler Coats. Then compare the Chattan Coat to the Hague/Hate Coat. The Rockefeller Rock in the Hague/Hate Crest should link to ROXburghshire, where the Chattan clan was first found.

The Chattan write-up: "The Chattos intermarried with the two distinguished Northumbrian families of Percy and Potts..." Recall the pots in yesterday's Hague discussion, and the possibility that Percys were of the Percival holy-grail and swan cult. The, as the red heart of the Hagees was a symbol of that swan cult, note the Hagee motto: "Touch Not The Cat Bot A Glove," and that the Crest is a "A seated cat."

The Chattan castle is the same as in the Hopkins and Hobben/Hobes Coat. The Hobbens are said to have been first in Huntingdonshire (why "shire," like "sire"?), and the Chattan write-up: "They moved northward at 1150 at the invitation of David, Earl of Huntingdon, and were granted lands on the Kale Water in the parish of Hounan, Roxburghshire, which they named Chatto."

I am reminded of CC's dream (see yesterday) on the morning of which she read my Pygmalion trace to Ishmaelites; her dream was about a HUNTING dog/hound named Pygmalion; she says the dream occurred before she had read any Pygmalion term in my updates. The Hounan term in the write-up above sounds like "hound," and entering "Houn" brings up the Hound surname. The Coat reminds me of the English Shaw Coat, a branch of the Perthshire Shaws! Moreover, the Hound/Houn Coat is in the indented style traced to Perdix cult bloodlines.

Whenever David I is involved, the Drummonds should be there, for his mother was piloted to Britain by Maurice Drummond, the so-called "first Drummond," who was a grandson of king Andrew I of Hungary. I say David's HUNtingdon was named by Hungarians, and moreover I claim that the flag of Scotland, "Andrew's Cross," was named after king Andrew. Therefore, why does the Hague/Hate Coat use the same saltire that is the Andrew's flag of Scotland? And why is the Chattan Coat half that saltire? Why does the Heidler Coat appear to use some of that saltire? Some of the Chattan branches are said to be DAVIDsons.

The bomb-like pots in yesterday's discussion were found in the Bomm Coat, which was looked up in the first place because of the bombs on the Faringdon Coat (Faringdons had been linked to Hagues). I had entertained (several weeks ago) a trace of Shiptons (who are said to be descended from Faringdons) to Drummonds, arguing that the ship symbol of Maurice Drummond named a clans, Ship and Shipman. Just now, while looking for the other Cat-like clan (besides the Hagees) that uses, "Touch not the cat," I looked up the Kitten/Keatons Coat to find the black Faringdon leopard heads (which look like the black pots on fire of the Bomms). It was decided that Bomms were Bohemians, and I think the Bohemians of importance link to the wife of George Drummond (Maurice's father), she being from PodeBrady, Bohemia. Hmm, pots and PODEbrady? That makes sense.

I had argued that Keatons/Kittens were Keiths/Keaths, and they were of a Catti peoples, says their write-up.

I suppose the point, not veering too far from the Hitler=Hag topic, is that the Hitler surname somehow touched on the Catti of Hesse, and that idea is supported by the sun in the German Hesse Coat, for the Hitler coat uses it in the same colors. I've already mentioned that, but now the point is the closeness of Hag-using surnames to the Catti of Hesse. It tends to support an Ishmaelite trace to Hesse, and if Hied/Hutt/Hitt-like terms were variations of Hague/Haight/Hate, then why couldn't "Hess" have been likewise?

Still looking (after writing the above) for the other clan that uses, "Touch not the cat," I found the Hood/Hudd saltire-and-mascle (officially a "fret") in the Cattel Coat, which supports exactly what I just said/implied in the paragraph above.

Yesterday, after viewing the Hiedler and Heidler Coats in preparation for today's topic, I saw an article from the Huffington Post, and checked the Huff Coat because the term looked like a possible variation of Hop-using surnames that were yesterday's topic. Immediately after seeing the Huff Coat, the Heid/Hagelsheimer Coat was loaded to find their Shields (i.e. not including Coat symbols) identical but in colors reversed.

Taking the "Heimer" that appears to be the end of "Hagelsheimer," and that is the end of "Oppenheimer," we find Hey/Hay-using variations in the Swiss Heimer surname (foxes), meaning that "Heimer" could itself be rooted in a Heg/Hag term. I'm not going to get into the Catti link to the Cote/Cott=Cottians of the Guiscard bloodline, but you may know by now that he was "The Fox." As per the Cottin/Cotton variation of the Cotts, the Cotten Coat is in Hagar and Hague (and Hagen) colors, and uses quite a few items that could be kin-codes.

Perhaps the Heimer/Hayme surname originated as Hagim, where "im" is the Hebrew plural indicating our "ite." Hagites, in other words. That Heimers/Heymes/Hayms were linked to Hagar(d)s, first found in Perthshire, is evident in that the Hay surname was first found in Perthshire. It's very likely that Hays were Hagars because "Hayer" brings up the Hay Coat. AND, the English Hayer Coat (this is clearly an Ayers branch of Ayrshire elements) uses "Virtus sola invicta" for a motto, thus clinching a Hay family link to the Hagues, who use, "Sola Virtus Invicta."

Therefore, the Heimers/Hayms looks like Hagars and Hagues, suggesting that Oppenheimers were such, making perfect sense where Opp(en)-like surnames (such as Hope) seem to be branches of Hagars and/or Hagues.

The French Hays/LaHayes "held a family seat in the castle and barony of Lahaie-du-Puits in the arrondissement of COUTance" (caps mine).

Knowing that Holdens use the Hay/Hayer ESCutcheon-on-Shield, I checked the Holden write-up for more clues, and found linkage some potential Ishmaelites. That is, I viewed the Howlin variation as "Heylin," and entered the latter to find a clan at Ashton: " Here, the [Heylin/Haylin] family established its seat at Ashton and Credy-Helion."

I had traced ASHtons, Astons, and other Ashes to "ISHmaelite" tentatively. The Ashton Coat is in Heylin colors, and Ashtons were first found in Lancashire, where Holdens/Howlins were first found. The Ashton location of the Heylins is in Devon, where the Huttler/Hitler-related Hoods/Hudds (Hagar/Hague/Hagen colors) were first found. The salute, "Heil Hitler," sure does smack of "Heylin," and in fact the Heylin write-up says the surname is derived in "Heilin" (which may have originated AFTER the surname had morphed from a Hag term).

I've insisted that Alan>Stewarts out of Brittany had been linked to proto-Nazi Rosicrucians, especially as "Thule" (the Nazi cult linked itself to that Nordic entity) reflects "Dol." Another quote from the Heylin write-up: "First found in Brittany, where Hillion, near Saint-Brieux, was the birthplace of Herve d'Helion. d'Helion was a companion of William the Conqueror and was awarded a barony and lands in Devon." "Helion smacks of "Alan"!!!

As per "Brieux," the French Brix surname (likely a Bruce variation, or even the origin of Bruces proper) is in Hagar and Hague colors. German Brix' (use the Ashton-Coat star, apparently) were first in Silesia, and they use black-on-white, colors that will become prominent immediately below. It should first be said that the Bavaria-colored lozenges of the French Brix' are used in colors reversed by Dutch Hagens, and Holland is to become a major theme below as per the Helion surname.

Entering "Helion" brings up a Coat in Heylin and Ashton colors, black on white, but the surname is properly, Helme/Helm, smacking of the Heimer/Heyme surname that got us to the Heylins=Helions in the first place.

Suddenly, we have reason to believe that Alan>Stewarts were Helions. And then with "Helme" I recalled the Elmer surname, and it too is in the same black-on-white...AND IT USES RAVENS, jibing with my trace of proto-Alans of Dol to raven-depicted Rus vikings of the Shetland theater. The Elmer motto, "Hallelujah," smacks of the Heylins=Helions. The write-up helps us to understand how Elmers were Hagels, as it shows the Gaelic form, "Aighlmear." It also suggests links to "Aedel." The Aylmer variation of the Elmers easily modifies from a Hagel-mer idea.

I had traced the Elmer/Aylmer surname to the Ail/Ayl river in Roxburghshire...that I think named Ail/Ayl, the region that was also Ayr(shire). In other words, the Elmers=Helmes look like the Ayer and Hayer branches of Hagars, jibing with what was proposed minutes ago. I don't think that's coincidental. We owe this revelation partly to the creator of Elmer Fudd, who, like other cartoon creators, couldn't keep his mouth shut. Many of them used cartoon characters to secretly impinge their bloodlines. English Elmers are in English Alan colors.

The Halims/Hallams use colors reversed to Hagars and Hagues, and being first found in Yorkshire (where Hagues were first found), the Hallam blue-on-white lion should be the Bruce-of-Yorkshire lion, explaining why Scot-royal Bruces married Stewarts...which got the latter to the royal throne in the first place. That is, it looks like Hallams were Helmes=Helions=Alans of Dol.

AMAZINGLY, I am convinced already that Alans of Dol were Hagarites. And The Hague (Netherlands) trace yesterday to Shiptons=Skiptons (Skiptons were first in Yorkshire too) , and they to Drummonds, jibes with my senses wherein I interpreted the raven-depicted vikings of Shetland as both Stewarts and Drummonds (as if Dol Stewarts descended from the viking side of Drummonds). Keep in mind what I said about the Drummonds at the root of Andrew's Cross, for the Hagues of Yorkshire use it, and one online article called Maurice Drummond, "Marot de Yorvik." And then there is also the fact that Bruce-Stewart royalty immediately married a Drummond.

The Shipton Coat is in the black-on-white colors of the Helions, Elmers, and Ashtons, and because the Shipton Crest uses an eel, as does The Hague of the Netherlands, "Holland" comes to mind as a Helion entity. Suddenly we could be in the Holle/Holla zone, the ugly goddess of the dark, and I had traced that cult to the Ellis surname...first found in Yorkshire!

I had traced the Alis names of the Skiptons to the Ellis clan, and the latter uses what should be the Elmer cross...which should prove to be the Sinclair cross because Elmers were raven-depicted vikings, suggesting that proto-Stewarts of Shetland were a branch of Rollo-line Rus/Danes.

It dawns on me now (if it hadn't in the past) that Kyles (black-on-white candles), who have major claims in Ayrshire, were ultimately named after the Ayl/Ail entity that was alternately "Ayr(shire)." In other words, the serpentined anchor in the Kyle Crest should be the anchor of the Heidler=Hitler and Hood/Hutt surnames by way of their common linkage to HEYLins of Devon...which may explain why English Elmers use the Dauphine dolphin and the Hyksos axe (I trace Dauphine/Daphne from Hyksos to Devon). The Cole surname (no 's') was first found in Cornwall, near Devon.

Kyles lay claim to king Cole roots, and he was a ruler in York. The serpentined Coles surname was first found in Yorkshire. Apparently, if Hagues of Yorkshire and Ayers=Hayers of Ayrshire were Ishmaelites, so too was the king-Cole cult. We have every reason to suspect such l-versions as Helion, Ail, Elmer, Helme, and Alan to be variations of Hagarites.

I am reminded of my tentative trace of Hagarites to Ugrians, who were the root of the Hungarians (early called On-Ogur), if that helps to explain why Drummonds herein appear central to Hague-branch Hagarites. I am reminded of the Ugrians, who may have been Gugars of Gogarene, because they lived in proto-Russia's far north, roughly where the RoxOLANI (a branch of Alans) lived. I tend to trace the Roxolani to Roxburgh, and I also trace the Rockefeller rock in the Hague Crest to Roxburgh.

Amazingly, the Neuri (= Nahorites), Budini (= Buz) and Geloni lived side-by-side in the Roxolani theater, and I did trace the Geloni to the founding of "Hol(land)," what I'm now seeing as a place linked to the Helions=Alans of Dol. In other words, I'm finding, not only once again that the Stewart bloodline was Nahorite, but Geloni, and the fact that the Hague is in the Nether-lands (a Nahor-like term) suggests that Ugrians were indeed merged with Neuri and Geloni peoples as they moved west. Atilla the Hun, whom Hungarians claim to stem from, was from the House of (Dol-like) Dulo, and because it's known that he came conquering westward with Alan Huns, it suggests that he came with Roxolani.

The common thread in Hungarians of the Drummond kind and Atilla's Alan Huns seems to be the Ugrians=Hagarites. As the Hagues of Yorkshire are easily identified now as Coles of Yorkshire, we can be more sure that the Camulos cult, and Camel-like surnames, of the king-Cole cult (as per his station in Camulodunum=Colchester) was named after Nahor's son, Kemuel, the son that was born after Buz. I only wish that I could discover Kemuel's tribes among the Neuri and Budini.

The "Serva jugum" motto of the Hayer Coat has been traced by me to Serbs/Sorbs of Hungarian elements (I tentatively see "jugum" as code for Jung=Hungary), but in any case, "serva" is used also by the English Cole Coat. The Hayers were clearly of the Holdens, who smack of Odin=Woden, whom I trace to "Budini." The very-related point is, the Holdens, who were also Howlins that I now trace to Heylins=Helions=Alans, use "ALLERions" for symbols that I tentatively traced earlier to the Alans of Dol. The allerion is said to be a form of eagle, and "eagle" itself smacks of the Hagel surname, first found in Somerset (near Devon) but traced by it's write-up to Flanders of Holland.

When finding that Somerset Hagels (could be linked to Heids/Hagelsheimers of Bavaria as they were linked to Hoods/Hutts and Heylins of Devon) use an olive branch, it came about time that I took a look at the Olive surname. English Olivers (oak theme) were first in Somerset! The English Olive surname (greyhounds) uses a cockatrice combed and wattled, and looking up the Wattle/Whatley surname (evokes the Watt and Wyatt surnames honoring the Uat=Buto cult), it was found first in Somerset (!!) and has a Coat like the English Elmers.

We're not forgetting that the Aylmer variation should trace back to a Hagel-mer idea so that Somerset Hagels must have been linked to Elmers as well as Olives/Olivers. Elmers were first in HAMPshire (a term that I trace to Chemmites=Kemuel-ites of the Uat/Buto cult), and the Olive clan was first in nearby/related NorthAMPton.

I had traced "Buto" to Buzites in Bozrah, the Edomite city ruled by Esau. A large owl (Edomite symbol, we may assume) is used in the Spanish Olive/Oliver Coat. Scottish Olivers (red heart) were first in Roxburgh, and they appear to use an olive branch too.

One of the Oliver write-ups traces to "Oliefr," and then we find a dove (often has an olive branch in beak) in the Leaf/Lief Coat. It's in Hagar, Hague and Hagel colors, and uses bees.

Recalling the viking, Lief/Liefr Ericson, how can we explain the double coincidence that while the Liefs look like Hagues-et-al, the Ericson Coat is a blue-on-white saltire, colors reversed from the Hague saltire? It's as if the Olive/Oliver surname is from Lief Ericson himself.

The Lief surname was first found in Norfolk, and so was the Hagen-like Haken surname with Hark-using variations that smack of "Erik." The Haken/Harken Coat uses red dancettes, appropriate for the family of Erik the Red (father of Lief Ericson). The colors are the same as in the English Alan Coat, important because the latter uses oak leaves, a symbol also of the English Oliver Crest. These Olivers use the same oak tree (at least one acorn is falling on the trunk) as the Hakin/Aiken Crest (the latter surname is being compared to "acorn").

My conclusion is the Erik the Red (10th century, long before Christopher Columbus) was of the Hakin and/or Haken/Harken bloodline that was otherwise Hagens and acorn-like Aikens, while Olivers were the same bloodline but named after Lief(r). Thus, the olive and dove symbols in heraldry do not link to anything holy but to Hagarites ("Hag" is like the Greek for "holy," and the English "holy" is like "Helion>Alan"). But this is not Biblical holiness.

The German Erik Coat (big red rose) was first in Brunswick, a Nahorite haunt (Nurburg branch) in my investigations, which is conspicuous in that Lief and his fellow vikings founded the parts of Canada that included what would become New Brunswick. The assumed Oak Island treasures (Nova Scotia), and the lore of its connection to the Holy Grail, is part of the Henry-Sinclair trips to Canada.

The big red rose of the Brunswick Eriks suggests Rhodian Rus, and as they were concentrated in Lincolnshire, so the Hegels/Eagles were first in Lincolnshire. The Hegel Coat and Crest are definitely variations of the Coat and Crest of the Savage Rus, which should explain why Scottish Olivers and French Sauvages both use red hearts. Remember, it was English Hagels (red symbol) that use the olive branch that discovered the Olive/Oliver surnames in the first place. German Hegels use the English Hegel lion.

But as the Eric term links more exactly to the Hagen>Haken/Harken term, what about the German Hagar surname that comes up when entering "Hegen"? I've never seen it before, I don't think, and it shows "Hager, Hagger, Hagerr, Haager, Haagger, Haagerr, Haeger, Haegar, Heger and many more" variations. It's in red and gold, the Haken/Harken colors!

Unfortunately, we don't know the ancestry of Erik the Red in order to prove further that we may be dealing with Ishmaelites and/or Nahorites. But these vikings were found in NORway, founded by mythical Nor.

We now have reason to trace the heraldic eagle to Hegel-branch Ishmaelites, and an eagle is what I just found when investigating whether the Egg surname might apply to Hegels. The Eggener variation of the German Eggs (Hagar/Hague colors eggain) smacks of Agenor. Not that I think the Eggs/Eggeners thought they were linked to Agenor (mythical Phoenician ruler), but I suspect that Hagarites of old were at the root of Agenor and other agi terms of Greek myth. The Eggeners were in Bavaria, and use the colors of Bavaria, and that evokes the same-colored lozenges seen earlier that pertain to Hagarite clans.

ZOWIE, the next term (as per the Eggerer variation) entering my head was the "Eckarts," and the German Eckart (roses) write-up actually traces to "agi," said to mean 'edge" or "point," but I'll ignore that definition as off-the-wall desperation. I my books, "agi" means the goat cult of Edom.

English Eckarts are listed under a Hatchard/Haccard surname (Lincolnshire) that seems to reveal why Perthshire Hagars are properly "Hagard." The Hatchers (no d-using variations shown) were also first in Lincolnshire. Like the Hazzards, they use scallops, and the blue and white once again. The Hatchart write-up could suggest links back to the dark Melqart cult of the Tyro-Carthaginians: "Eckart is an ancient Anglo-Saxon surname that came from the Old French personal names Achart and Aquart."

The Chard/Chart Coat (with partridges) has a Shield in colors reversed to the Hatcher Shield. I have already traced the Chars/Chards/Charts (first in Somerset, like the olive-using Hagels) to Carthaginians. That idea suggests that Hagar(d)s of Perthshire were not named directly after Hagar, mother of Ishmael, but after "(Mel)Quart/(Mel)Kart)" elements in CARThage. The question is, were Cathage elements from Hagarites of the Ishmaelite kind?

Is "Pygmalion" a P-less "Ishmalion," for if it is, then Carthage was indeed an Ishmaelite haunt, for king Pygmalion's historical daughter, Elissa, is credited with the founding of Carthage. Or, if the Pygmalion=Ishmaelite theory seems like a stretch, was mythical Agenor of Tyre a Hagarite entity that became the Tyrian line to Carthage?

Scottish Eckarts are Urquarts too, and they were first in Inverness, where red-hearted Hagees/Heggies were first found. One can entertain that the stated derivation of the Hagees in "son of Adam" is code for "Edom." In fact, here's the write-up: "The name Hagee comes from the Gaelic names Mac Adhamh or Mac Edhamh, which both mean son of Adam."

The Higgie variation warrants a look at the Higg surname , first found in Gloucestershire, where Hazzards/Hasards were first found. AND, while Hagees use "Touch Not The Cat," the Higgs Crest is the Keith-Crest stag, which now strongly supports a Hagees link to Keith Catti...and therefore likely Hesse.

The Keiths were first in Haddington (Lothian), and while I see that place rooted in "Catti," the Hedington variation of the Haddington surname smacks of EDINburgh, also in Lothian. One could trace "Edin" to "Edom" because Esau's Edomites married the Horite bloodline from the Biblical man, Lotan, whose members apparently named Lothian. The Arms of Edinburgh use "Dominus" as possible code for Edom. The same motto also uses "Nisi," what I would deem code for the Nuzi Horites that I trace to Edomite Horites (and then to Dionysus). The problem is, I have a contradiction, for "Hadding(ton)" either traces to "Catti" or to "Edin/Edom," but not both.

BUT WAIT. Couldn't "Edin" have been a C-capitalized term such a Kitten/Keaton, whom I view as a branch of Keiths? The Keaton surname is also "Ketyn," reflecting Edinburgh's early name, "Eidyn." Or what about the Cattans? Or the Cheatles of Cheshire that I've traced to Keiths of Lothian? After all, the Edin/Eden surname used garbs, the Cheshire symbol. While Edens were first in Suffolk, Cattans were first in Norfolk.

The Aden/Audyn Coat, I've just learned, uses the Haddington cross. I'm convinced in that alone that Adens (who look like Autuns/Datons) were of Hadding(ton) elements.

When we enter "Aton" instead of "Aden" or "Daton," we find garbs in Cheshire colors because the Hattan/Hattin surname was first in Cheshire. The Hattin Crest is a stag, the beast found in the Arms of Edinburgh. I think that's a match, therefore. I think Edinburgh was rooted in the Aton and Aden bloodlines from Cheshire Catti=Keith elements as they removed to Lothian.

The Lothian surname was first found in Perthshire, but had a branch in Ayrshire, if that helps to link Lothian to Hagarites.

This is the first time, if I recall correctly, that I've traced the Catti to Autun's fundamental founding. I had traced the Autun region to mythical Aedon of Thebes, and that's the city founded by CADmus, who I've long identified as the Cadusii line to the Catti of Hesse. But as yet I had not found a decent Catti trace to Autun, so far as I can recall, until now.

One last thing: Let me repeat what was written earlier today: the Elmer surname write-up helps us to understand how Elmers were Hagels, as it shows the Gaelic form, "Aighlmear." It also suggests links to "Aedel."

That is, the Elmer write-up suggests links to an Aedel term: "The surname Elmer is derived from the Anglo-Saxon personal name Ædelmær, which literally means noble famous." I take that "noble" definition as code for links to Nibelungs of Autun/Nevers. This Elmer clan could be the root of Edinburgh.

What could Elmer Fudd be code for? Perhaps the Fudge/Fucher/Fulker surname, using a white anchor once again. We read: "The Fulchers were known as the Champions of Burgundy." Nibelungs were Burgundians.

In Iraq, the scheduled parliamentary sitting for Monday has been postponed "until give the various political blocs time to meet on the sidelines first and agree on a way out of the gridlock... They are pressed for a solution, and Allawi is the man to satisfy before he'll accept another term by Maliki. He has agreed to a meeting before Thursday in Arbil, Kurdish territory.

As I'm waiting for the anti-Christ to enter Iraq politically to support the Sunni, I expect him to enter alongside Allawi. I don't think Allawi is anti-Christ material. Nor is he a viable friend for the al-Qaeda goon squads that operate like rats in the country's sewer pipes. We may see the end of next week without a Parliamentary solution, with the situation aggravated all the more by a new wave of disagreement.

The idea is turn over the last card, but until the players give the dealer the go-ahead to flip it, the game is still in the betting stage, where body movements and facial expressions mean everything, if they can be trusted. And they can't be. The idea is to subtly present the opponent with a questionable idea of what you're up to, and the image of a strong hand (unless you actually have a strong hand). From here at my table, I haven't got a clue as to what their body language has been. And if I were a betting man, I'd place my chips on an Iraqi anti-Christ arising from this election mud.

But I've got to stay committed to an anti-Christ that enters from the outside. Perhaps the following scenario will usher him in:

"...The [Maliki] government has been firing many of the Sunni Arab men who were hired away from pro-al Qaeda militias three years ago. This was an American operation, which a lot of Shia Iraqis were not enthusiastic about. The Sunni Arab minority is much hated by the majority (over 80 percent are Kurds or Shia Arabs) of Iraqis and there is a growing desire to simply kill or expel all the Sunni Arabs. The Sunni Arab terrorists continue their attacks on Shia Arabs and Kurds in the hope of triggering such a response. This is supposed to bring neighboring Sunni states into Iraq to rescue the Iraqis Sunnis and, it is hoped, restore them to power. There is unlikely to be a restoration, or even a rescue. But such illusions have more weight in this part of the world, and these things usually end badly."

The Sunni terrorists are looking for outside help. Period. They will take the first Joker that comes along to offer his services, so long as he has wild enough credentials. That Joker November 5

">might not enter the game as a lone wolf, but may pretend to stand behind one of the parties now slugging it out. I can't see how else he could get his foot in the door as a contender for a position of power. The alternative is that he's already a contender, perhaps Abdul Mahdi, but that makes my cards fall where I claim a Russian or Western anti-Christ. If that's how it turns out, Amen, so be it.

November 7

As I try to explain best I can who the Saracens were from their Wikipedia article, keep in mind the three things that I've concluded about Nahorites: 1) they were Alan Sarmatians; 2) they were Mitanni Hurrians out of Haran and into Edom's Horites, then Horus of the Danaan Chemmites that also fronted the Uat/Buto cult; and, 3) they were Danaans of Tanis and likely Tunis, and therefore likely the Aten and Athena cults.

Emails opened last night from Tim and FE last night will help to unveil this topic more with Hagarites in mind who have been a topic most-recently. One email from Tim had the link to Wikipedia's Saracen article, and that's what has spurred today's update.

The article tells that peoples of history regarded Saracens as Hagarenes/Hagarim, though this may be erroneous by the over-simplification of viewing all Arabs as Ishmaelites, which I don't think is perfectly accurate. The article also tells that Saracens should be distinguished from Arabs, but beyond these things, the article paints a mystery on what Saracens were. I say they were Hebrews, and the sword points to Nahorites.

The fact that certain Christians coined the term, Hagarenes, to describe Saracens could in itself identify the Hagar-et-al surnames as a Saracen peoples. In the Hagarim article, we already find a trace to Ra and Horus:

"Hagarim (Hagarenes) are the Hunefah non-Isaacite children of Abram's promise. They are the children of Abram's second wife Keturah (a.k.a. Hagar meaning literally "The Stranger") according to their 7 nations, Ishmael, Zimran, Ishbak, Shuah, Medan, Midian and Jokshan [Genesis 25). Hagar, Abram's second wife bore Abram's first son Ishmael. Though they traveled far and wide, their base was Petra which used to be called Hagar. Their guardian angel 'Ra El' became known to the Egyptians simply as Ra .[citation needed]. Wherever they were found, levites were found with them. In the Crimea they were called Sebomenoi, but later became known as Subbotniks, Molokans and Gerei in southern Russia, while their levites became the Karaites."

The problem with the quote above is that it says too much too fast, and likely assumes the names of the seven nations (i.e. that may not be historical names found in documents). It rings like the writings of cultists, and I pray god that my writing don't take on that sort of dogmatism. It doesn't necessarily mean that the writer is wrong on all counts. Some of it jibes with what I've been saying about the Daedalus cult.

I sense that the Perdix branch of Daedalus, as per the Pett-like variations of Part/Pert-using surnames, could link back to Petra. I did suggest that the Sava river was founded by Abrahamic Sheba, and that Sheba's brother, Dedan, was Daedalus>Dido itself, but then backed off when it appeared that Daedalus was instead the Dia bloodline of Hyksos. The contradiction might yet become rectified.

Sheba and Dedan were sons of the Jokshan in the above quote, whom I distinguish from Joktan, son of Eber. The quote then mentions the SEBOmenoi of the Cimmerian region of Crimea, thinking them (for an unstated reason) to be Saracens. Keep in mind that I had traced both Nahorites and Joktanites to Athens, the city out of which Hephaesto-Daedalus sprung en route to Crete, and that Lemnos smacks of the Dedan tribe of Leummites. We assume that Daedalus of Athens was first in Lemnos as Hephaestus.

The Hagarim article clearly identified Saracens as Hebrews, and that's my opinion too, aside from the article. The Saracen article alone is enough to persuade me, though it doesn't argue in that way. It says: "The earliest datable reference to Saracens is found in Ptolemy's Geography (2nd century A.D.), which describes 'Sarakene' as a region in the Northern Sinai named after the town Saraka located between Egypt and Palestine." Unfortunately, there is no article on that Saraka location, and no specific location mentioned. Keep in mind that the second century AD is late in terms of the myth era.

Then I got a good clues as to who they were in the myth era as the article continues: "Hippolytus, the book of the laws of countries and Uranius mention three distinct peoples in Arabia during the first half of the third century, the Saraceni, Taeni and Arabes. The Taeni, later identified with the Arab tribe called Tayyi, were located around the Khaybar Oasis all the way up to the eastern Euphrates while the Saracenoi were placed north of them." The Taeni strike me as the Danaans, and the Tayyi evokes Tey (sometimes thought to be the mother of Yuya the horseman noble) and queen Tiye (daughter/sister of Yuya) of the Aten cult, a Mitanni people on the Upper Nile at Amarna (what I suspect links to Myrina of Amazon-infested Lemnos, and mythical Myrina of the Amazighen-branch Amazons of north Africa).

I realize that its roughly 1500 years from Tey and Tiye of Amarna (see 3rd update in August for details) to the Saracens proper, and at first I rejected the link for that reason. But then I clicked over to the Khaybar-Oasis article, to find it near Medina (western Arabia), a city holy to Muslims but smacking of "Mitanni," which itself smacks of "Amazon. Moreover, there's a "tanni" in "Mitanni" that could have founded such locations as Tanais, a SARmatian region to which I trace Danaans. Yes, I am maintaining that Saracens were SauroMata/SARmata, and I do note that a "cen" ending is also in the Soducena location at lake Sevan, Caucasia. That is, the root of "Saracen" might have originally been Sar-like rather than Sark-like.

At the end of the Saracen article, there's a link to Serkland (Scandinavia), and in that article there's a link to Sarkel, a city of the Khazars and lying on the Don, which was earlier the Tanais. This is where the Sarmatians and Alan Huns had lived, whom I trace to a merger with Neuri-based Nahorites as they developed into the proto-Stewart Helion surname, which was linked just yesterday to Hagar and Hague-et-al clans. Coincidence?

It is known from Herodotus that Sarmatians were part-Amazons. He had the Amazons of the Thermodon region migrating through Crimea to the Tanais river. Thus, the Sebomenoi of Crimea could have been of the Sarmatian=Saracen peoples. Thermodon was near mythical Dia in the Ardahan theater, where Gargarians lived, whom I trace to Gorgan/Verkana near the DEYLamites.

It strikes me that "Dia" (whom I identify as Deylamites in the Ardahan and upper-Euphrates theater) is like "Tey" and "Tiye"...and the Tayyi-branch Taeni. If Dia was the Tey and Tiye Mitanni cult of Aten/Amarna, then Dia's husband, Ixion (= Hyksos), helps to support my theory (without historical evidence) in linking the Amarna cult to a branch of Hyksos. Tey and Tiye were also Upper-Nile Chemmites, if that helps to link them to Danaans, for Chemmites themselves claimed to be Danaans, especially of the Perseus branch.

I totally ignore where the writer above assigns Levites to the Sebomenoi, as that sounds like so many other erroneous writers seeking to link Israelites to pagan, dragon-cult Hebrews. The writer must have taken the liberty of changing "priest" to "Levite" because he thinks he's found the lost ten tribes in the Cimmerians, which is the typical but non-sensical idea advanced by some British-Israeli groups.

The Crimean Cimmerians became, in my tentative opinion, the Danaan Chemmites/Kemmites of the Horus and Uat/Buto cults (we're not forgetting that Nahor's first three sons were Uts, Buz, and KEMuel, and that Kemuel may have been named in honor of the Cimmerians among Nahorites). It's known that Cimmerians were Iranians at first, and so I plug them into the Uranus cult that I link to "Haran," the city of Nahorites, and by that method I trace Cimmero-Nahorites to the Horites of Edom and to Ra>Horus of the Uat/Buto cult.

Back to the Khaybar Oasis, for the term not only smacks of the holy-grail Shaw/Shay surname that I've traced to the Sava-river Saracens, but of "Khyber," the place in Afghanistan where the Afridi peoples lived whom I say were the Aphrodite cult otherwise known as Kypris, that term being from "Cyprus" where Aphrodite was born. Suddenly, we have evidence of a Saracen link to the Kabeiri cult of Aphrodite and Hephaestus, which is a ready Saracen link to Daedalus>Dido, keeping in mind that Pygmalion, father of Dido, loved Aphrodite on Cyprus.

This is the smelling guts of the Templars, in case you're missing that point. Our spiritual battle today is with neo-Templars in high places, and our war is against their "education" systems, full of vipers and scorpions.

As I identify "Ixion" with "Khyan" (the pharaoh who I claim to be the Exodus pharaoh), he might have been the root of "KHYber" and "KHayber." Let me repeat the statement above: "The Taeni, later identified with the Arab tribe called Tayyi, were located around the Khaybar Oasis all the way up to the eastern Euphrates while the Saracenoi were placed north of them" I trace "Aphrodite" to "Euphrates," and by the sounds of it, Saracens had been on the Euphrates roughly at Babylon, or perhaps further north in it's Khabur tributary (where the Mitanni and Amorites had ruled supreme). Khaybar=Khabur makes a lot of sense, not neglecting that the Khabur was also "Habur," a Hebrew entity.

When we click over to the Khabur-Oasis article, we find pre-Muslim "Jews" there. We find the phrase, "Khaybar and neighboring Tayma." Then we find the Muslim threat: "...Khaybar, Khaybar ya Sahyun, Hizbullah qadimun [meaning] 'Khaybar, Khaybar you Zionists, Hizbullah is coming'" Note Khay-like "Sahyun," the term for "Sionists," keeping in mind that I trace "Ixion" to "Sion," and that in myth, Hermes of mount Hermon/Sion (Phoenicia, near Tyre) was made the father of mythical Arabus, symbol of Arabia.

Arabus was made the son of Thronia, daughter of Belus, father of Danaus (symbol of Tanis-based Danaans). This is an erroneous origin for Arabs, but one sees clear marks of truth, that Arabs were traced my writers to Hermes=Armenians, that some Arabs (whom I root in Arphaxadites of Arabkha/Arrapha in Assyria) had been on the Pelusiac branch of the Nile (depicted by "Belus"), and that certain Arabs were linked to Danaans of Tanis (which was on or near the Pelusiac). The point is, these Arabus-based Arabs smack of the Hebrew Saracens, and even Hagarites, for myth writers traced the Belus>Danaus line to mythical Agenor of Phoenicia.

I had traced Arphaxadites of Arrapha (also "Arrapachitis") to the Harpasus tributary (Armenia) of the Aras (near lake Sevan, where I expect the Sava-river Saracens to have come from), where Ar/Ara/Ares was the son Hermes. One can guess, probably rightly, that Ra and Horus were the Hros of Ara=Ares. "Osirus" may even have depicted proto-Saracens, especially if Saracens were the Seir-ian Horites of Edom. When Edom-minded Tim wrote in the Saracen article, he exclaimed that Saracens were early in Syria. I knew what he meant: linkage to Seir.

My earliest writings on Saracens, as per tips and urges from Tim, linked them very quickly to Rus bloodlines, and they had long been traced back to Ares, whom I later discovered was the essence of Ixion, which discovery came when tracing Dia to regions founded and ruled by Ares elements. It's all starting to fit like a horseshoe around a Saracen's forehead=temple. The Saracen article continues: "The Saracens are described as forming the equites (heavy cavalry) from Phoenicia and Thamud..."

In the Thamud article: "The oldest known reference to Thamud is a 715 BC inscription of the Assyrian king Sargon..." It didn't strike me until now that "Sargon" was a potential Saracen-honoring king of Assyria. "Thamud" strikes me like "Dumuzi=Tammuz." Ishtar, known to be from Deylamite-like Telmon/Dilmun, was made the wife of Dumuzi.

Interestingly, I had traced Dumuzi to "Demeter," and with her (like Ishtar) being the goddess of the underworld, it relates well to the fact that Thamud was a locality of homes carved out of solid-rock cliffs. I imagine the potential for those rock dwellers to have used cave entrances as their front doors. One historian wrote:

"When the royal authority of 'Ad was wiped out, their brethren, the Thamud, took over. They were succeeded, in turn, by their brethren, the Amalekites. The Amalekites were succeeded by their brethren, the Himyar."

(Thamud article)

We're not dealing with Israelite Hebrews here, but the Molech=Zeus=Baal cult. The article goes on to mention the location of Thamud in the Yemen region operated by Joktan's sons, which is where the Himyar (Cimmerians?) lived: "The script was first identified in a region in north central Yemen that is known as Thamud, which is bound to the north by the Rub' al Khali, to the south by the Hadhramaut and to the west by Shabwah." It's hard to say whether Shabwa was after any man named Sheba, let alone Abrahamic Sheba, but Hadhramaut was named after a son of Joktan, Hazarmaveth.

Joktan had another son, Hadoram, who I trace to ADRAMmelech, god of Sepharvites. Joktan had another son, Sheba. His other son, Avilah, might have become the Avvites leading to Abila/Abilene, the Syrio-Phoenician location (around Tammaz-like DAMAScus) to which I trace the Apollo/Abello cult (= twin brother to the Thermodon/Themis AMAZons, known as TAMAZons in north-Africa).

The quote above where a writer traces Saracens to the Sebomenoi says that the latter "later became known as Subbotniks, Molokans and Gerei in southern Russia, while their levites became the Karaites." The Molokans smack of Molech and may even be the Amalekites, but if the Gerei were named after Jerah, son of Joktan, then likely the Sebomenoi were named after Sheba, son of Joktan (there were several Shebas in those days). Joktanites did not originate in Yemen, but in Sephar, probably Subartu of Assyria, where the two old Zab rivers flowed that were also called by a Khabur-like term, though one was the Lycus that could have been root to Lycians and Carians.

Thus, the Saracens in the Khaybar region in Arabia look like the missing link between Sephar-based and Yemen-based Joktanites, and "Joktan" I trace to "Acte," the early name of Athens/Attica, where mythical Ogyges was king. Ogyges was the Ares dragon that I traced otherwise to Harpasus-based Arphaxadites (= proto-Arabs) but living also on the two Zab rivers of the Arrapha theater. And that's how Arabs came to be related to Saracens. It can be assumed, anyway, that while the Saraceni were associated with the "Taeni and Arabes," the Saracens too lived with the Taeni in and around the Khaybar Oasis.

It's easy to trace Kabala "Jewishness" to these dark and furious Hebrews. I trace Kabala to Uranus and Gaia especially. It struck me today that Gaia may have been named after Yuya's family. His family now seems to be figuring large enough in the Saracen entities under discussion for him to have become a pagan deity. Joktanites are highly suspect in Kabala, and I did do a trace of Yemenite elements -- in particular, the Himyars -- to the Chemmites of Yuya's kingdom on the upper Nile (around Akhmim). The Saracen article continues with another mention of a Tey- and Tiye-like term:

"The Middle Persian correspondent terms for Saracens are tazigan and tayyaye; who were located by Stephanus of Byzantium in the 6th century at the Lakhmid capital city of Al-Hirah."

In the Lakhmikd article:

"The Lakhmids...were a group of Arab Christians who lived in Southern Iraq [in and around post-Flood Eden), and made al-Hirah [on the lower/east Euphrates] their capital in 266.

...The Lakhmid Kingdom was founded by the Lakhum tribe that emigrated from Yemen in the second century and ruled by the Banu Lakhm,"

In the Banu Lakhm article:

"The Banu Lakhm, or Lakhmids, are descendents from Malik (Malichus) bin Uday bin Al-Harith (Aretas) bin Murr......bin Saba' (Sheba) bin Qahtan (Joktan), a Qahtanite Yemeni Arab tribe."

Apparently, the Lakhmids trace themselves to Joktanites of Yemen, but in particular to his son, Sheba. The trace of Saracens by others to the Euphrates river should explain why the Saracen article opens by saying: "Saracen was a term used by the ancient Romans to refer to people who inhabited the deserts near the Roman province of Syria and who were distinct from Arabs." SARAcen, SYRia, and AsSYRia.

It's easy to play word games, but harder to make the links solidify. Playing word games is the nature of my sport here at the Tribwatch ExpoSay, and it often nets me the answers because I play not alone. Let's go back to the Khay-like "Sahyun," meaning "Sionist." What about "AmaZIGHEN." Why do Templar Zionists seem to have roots in Saracens/Berbers/Moors, who can be identified as Amazighens?

And why does mythical Kay reflect "Khay(bar)" while the Shay surname (that I link to the Kay surname) reflects "Sahyen"? The Shay/Shave surname is a variation of the Shaw clan that is said to derive from "Sithech," and moreover has a Gaelic Sheath variation smacking of Sitten/Sion of Switzerland...that I trace to the Sava-river swan-depicted clans. Why does the Shaw Coat above use "Te" as a motto term?

I don't forget the trace of "Sithech" to mythical Seth/Sutekh (brother of Horus) that I located in Sais (near Buto), and then trace to the Sey/Say surnames and entities, including the Seatons/Saytons of Saytown (who could have been of the Keatons; see yesterday for links to Hagarites).

And why is Kay's mythical father, ECTor, so much like "Acte" and "Jok(tan)." I did link Ector to the Acton surname long BEFORE realizing the Ector-link to Joktanites. Why a swan in the Yok/Hoch surname of Switzerland?

These entities don't trace back to Israelites of the Zion taken by God via king David. Templars didn't attack Jerusalem with powers of the pope for any other secret purpose than to control the entire Levant, and they ruled even in Antioch, the city of the proto-AntiChrist. Tim sent an email on the Bohemond-named Templars of Antioch, though as yet I don't know that we can link that term to Bohemians. "Bohemond [I] was born in San Marco Argentano, Calabria, as the eldest son of the Norman nobleman Robert Guiscard, Duke of Apulia and Calabria, and his first wife Alberada of Buonalbergo. He was christened 'Mark' at his baptism, but was nicknamed Bohemond (after the legendary giant Buamundus gigas), by his father due to his size as an infant."

That derivation for the name might be a Rosicrucian trick to get us off track.

Robert Guiscard became involved with Saracens that obviously traced themselves to the Samson cult in Timnah (Israel). The Samson-cult "Danites" were clearly the Danaans that led to Hercules, who was "married" to Hebe, daughter of Horus>Hera. Unless you're willing to link Hercules-based Hebrews to God-blessed Israelites, I'd say put your British-Israeli girdles back into your bags and return them for a refund. Hercules was Melkart of Tyre, a sadistic cult that in no way can be considered blessed by God. In no way would God make them the Anglican rulers of the British empire on behalf of His Son's kingdom on earth. Only Satan would be arrogant enough to take such a title/position to himself.

Bohemond I was married to Constance of France (Champagne elements), if you're interested in investigating what she may have meant in terms of the "drag" bloodline. Bohemond III was the son of Constance by Raymond of Poitiers, and that latter location smacks of the Boii, founders of Bohemia. Let's not forget "Bouillon."

You might be wondering why the topic today started with a Saracen definition with Nahorite Hebrews but ended with Joktanites. Apparently, Nahorites and Joktanites had merged. I traced Aten-cult Nahorites to "Athen," the name of the Attica region after it was Acte. I can't get back to all the details, but I consider Athena of Libya to be the TUNisians, and therefore the Nahorite Saracens. I think I would trace Daedalus of Athens to Nahorites (because both were associated with Poseidon) more than to Joktanites (whom I trace to the Zeus Taurus/ox). Joktanites may have been of mythical CECrops of Athens because he smacks of OGYGes of Acte.

Raymond of Poitiers was a son of a duke of Aquitaine ("one of the leaders of the Crusade of 1101)", and I trace "Joktan" to "Occitania," later "Aquitaine." As I've said many times, Occitania had the Ebro river in its southern region (Joktan was son of Eber, father of Hebrews), and down the Ebro river lived the SEPHARdic "Jews." We're talking Sepharvite Joktanites here, not blessed Israelis, while I crawl all over the important Templars. But Joktanites were not the only horns of Templarism.

Raymond's mother was of Toulouse, possibly the Talos=Perdix cult, whom Daedalus hated. That is, Talos/Perdix was a Daedalus branch that he came to murder. The murdered party led to the Brits, whom I suspect were Nahorites as per several disclosures that proto-Stewarts of Brittany were Nahorites. To make this easier, I doubt very much that Joktanites were rooted in the Rus, while Nahorites were, by and large, Rus from Ares>Horus.

Careful, however, for "JokTAN" may have been named after Tanais elements of Gog, while I identify Danaans as Nahorites. A trace of Joktanites to the Tanais, where I see the Sauromata evolving into the Zeus Taurus, makes sense where I link "ox" to "Jok." And the mythical fact that the Zeus Taurus took Europa to Crete, whom I see as EBRopa, tells me that Zeus was indeed linked to Joktan, son of EBER, meaning also that Joktanites were in Tyre as the Europa line. Suddenly, we can identify the other Phoenix-based Phoenicians, said by some to be from DANaus, as Joktanites, to a large and regrettable degree.

I can now go so far as to reveal the Gog of Tyre (which Ezekiel 27-28 alludes to) as the Joktan bloodline. You will see the phrase, "Dan and Dedan" in those chapters wherein Tyre is being likened to the Babylonian harlot of Revelation 18. Someday I might be able to tell this story with greater ease, but right now, some fog remains.

In my opinion, the mythical CYClopes (and GIGantes) were symbols of Gogi, and one eye was a symbol applied also to Gorgons, therefore. "Bohemond IV of Antioch (or de Poitiers)...also known as the One-Eyed (in French le Cyclops)..." There may have been a reason for that nickname that had not to do with actually having one eye. We don't forget the claim that the first Bohemond was supposedly named after "the legendary giant Buamundus gigas."

I suppose that we can ask whether the anti-Christ will usher forth from the Bohemond bloodline, for that may explain why Daniel 11 has him coming from Seleucid founders of Antioch. Let's look for his bloodlines.

The French (Dauphine) Bohe Coat uses bull's heads because the surname is properly, Bouvier, like "bovine." The English Bovier Coat traces to "ox" rather than a bull: "The surname Bovier is derived from the Old French words bovier, bover, and buvier, which all mean ox-herd." It's said to be a Saxon surname. The Italian Bovier page shows a Boi and Boy variations, and several others not using the 'v'.

The English Boy/Bouie Coat uses bees, and in the crest two crossed oak branches. I did trace the oak, a symbol of Zeus, to "Jok(tan)," but it should also be said that I traced "Taurus" to "Dor>Dorian" elements in Greece, who I think were depicted by mythical Dryas, that term said to mean "oak" in Greek.

However, I trace the bee-cult Boii to Buz, a Nahorite peoples that became Poseidon. Therefore, its not as easy as suggesting Nahorites=Poseidon and Joktanites=Zeus. But in the early days, it may have been just so.

I had traced the Zeus Taurus to Turukku (many other spellings), and meanwhile I conjectured that "Saracen" traced to "Thracian," though that was after I had traced Turruku to "Thraco/Thrace." The Darcy surname entered my head just before this paragraph, as a Saracen-possible clan, and it uses the Bovier/Boy bull for a Crest (that's awesome because "Darcy" popped into my head after I had written on the Bovier and Boy Coats). The Darcy Coat is in the white-on-blue Boy-Coat colors, and the Darcy motto includes, "dieu," possibly code for Dia and/or Zeus.

As Bohemonds came forth from Guiscard, himself the son of a Tancred, note that the white cinquefoils in the Darcy Coat match those of the TANcred-related Tankerville/TANerdeville surname. The latter's Coat looks like a variation of the Holden/Howlin and Hay/Hayer Coats that were linked earlier in this update page to Hagar-et-al surnames.

The Tancred surname was first found in Yorkshire, where the Bouviers/Bouvers were first found. The Tancred Crest is an olive tree fructed, recalling yesterday's trace of the Olive/Oliver surnames to Liefr Ericson and his Hagel bloodline.

I've always suspected that the Levi surname was pirated by the Rus pirates, having no links to Biblical Levites. I've known that Leaf-like surnames were also Levi-like, as for example the Lief page shows a Leve variation. The French Levi Coat is a little like the Scottish Oliver Coat, where we read of derivation to "Oleifr."

As you may know, the Boii founders of Bohemia trace to the Baia founders of Bavaria, and you may have noticed the Bouver variation of the Bouviers, how it smacks of "Bauer/Bower," which then suggests that the Bauer-colored stars of the Italian Bouvier/Boy Coat indeed link to Bauers. There is then a Bohem surname of Bavaria, and like the Bouvier, Boy and Darcy surnames, it too uses a blue Shield. The Bohems, who may have been named after Bohemonds, were first found in NURemberg.

The Bohms/Bohems were first found in Bohemia.

If Darcys can be a Saracen-honoring clan, why not the French Sercy/Searcy surname, using a Rosicrucian cross if ever we saw one. Often, the four symbols are not inside the central Rosicrucian cross as they are in the Sercy Coat, but outside of a saltire cross, as in the on the Carsy Coat! That clan was first in Perthshire! Note the crescents, Saracen symbols I think. The "terrent" motto term leads to the Tarrat surname, perhaps yet another Saracen variation. Other variations smack of Taranto in Puglia, founded by dolphin-riding Taras, son of Poseidon.

Rosi-Cross heraldry also uses a rose in the center of the cross, in the way the French Sercy/Searcy Coat has waves placed centrally. The English Searcy surname is what I usually show as the Sarah/Sayer surname, no doubt of the Sauers of Sava-river infamy.

I think, my Israel-loving friends, the God of Israel has all but removed the lid from Pandora's pot. He has allowed us to peer inside while feeding us pop-corn, entertaining us, popping terms into the heads of merely a few of us with exceptional timing. I'll get to Fe's quickie pop-corn tomorrow. It involves the Mary Magdalene code.

LO and behold; Iraq has come to terms:

"Iraqi politicians have reached agreement on a power-sharing deal, exactly eight months after the country went to the polls.

The deal will see Nouri al-Maliki stay on as prime minister, but will allow MPs from Iyad Allawi's Iraqiya party choose the speaker.

A government spokesman, Ali al-Dabbagh, says some details still need to be ironed out but that parliament will meet to choose a speaker on Thursday.

He says Mr Malaki and Mr Allawi will meet in the northern city of Arbil later today for a formal ceremony to announce the agreement.

This news comes from the Maliki side, which tells us the offer but not whether Allawi has agreed to it. It sounds like he's agreed, but let's wait for verification. Then let's see what the Kurds do as reaction to being possibly marginalized.

November 8

The relationship between Tey and Yuya is uncertain, and he is sometimes said to have been married to Tjuya/Tuya, while his daughter Tiye is sometimes said to be his sister. I was trying to make sense of these things when I bumped into an article wherein Yuya's city, Akhmim, was defined with an ox. It was just yesterday when I repeated that Joktanites, who I think was depicted by an ox (after "Jok"), had a Yemeni branch in Yuya's neck of the Nile:

"Yuyu held the titles of:
'Master of the Horse and Chariot'

...'In charge of the Ox of Min" (at Akhmin)'

...Lieutenant of the King's Chariots'

...He was originally a member of the priesthood of Min, Lord of Akhmin and a prophet of that god as well as superintendent of his herds of Oxen."

Amazing. Yuya may have been the Hebrew that introduced the monotheistic Aten cult to AkhenAten, which is what I had suggested a few years ago. If "AKH(min)" meant "ox," then AKHEN(Aten) looks like he was named after ox(en) too. The page above, as well as others, suggests that Nefertiti, the wife of Akhenaten, was the daughter of Tey. Some equate Tey with Tiye as daughter of Yuya. It's a mess, but as many believe that the family was Mitanni, they may have been Joktanites or Nahorites of the Mitanni theater.

In a discussion touching on the uncertainties, we find a "Nakhtmin" (wife of Tjuia) that is nearly "Akhmin" but uses the Nach term that I link to Nachor=Nahor.

No matter, I am convinced that the Aten cult migrated through Greece as mythical Aedon of Thebes (Sheba, son of Joktan?), and landed at Autun and NEVERs (named after NEFERtiti elements). Days ago, I found sound evidence of a trace of Cadmus>Aedon>Autun elements to EDINburgh, capital of Scotland, and to the Catti of nearby HADDINgton (with Hedin--- variation) that is itself related to the Aden surname.

Edinburgh uses a "Nisi" motto term. The island of DioNysus (i.e. known to be named after "Nysus," perhaps the one in ancient Ethiopia) was Naxos, very close to "Nakht." This suggests Dionysus-based Horites, ultimately from Nuzi (where the Taurus-cult Turukku lived). I've identified these Horites with Hagarites out of the Hurrian city of Haran (Nahorite/Mitanni theater). Dionysus' Bacchus cult, a bull cult, now looks very Joktanite, but moreover linked to "ACKmin."

In the discussions as above, one finds a Tay character thought by some to have been Yuya's father. The term might have been "Agi" in the Edomite theater, the goat or holy term that I thought to link to Hagarites. In any case, it seems solid that Horites from Lotan of Edom named Lothian, and I suspect strongly that Edinburgh was founded or conquered by Edomites of the Horite kind.

I had traced a known variation of "Clovis" to "Lothian" (where Edinburgh and Haddington are located), suggesting that Clovis was himself from Lotan-based Horites and/or Seir-ians. As Clovis was a chief and sacred Merovingian, I should repeat that I traced Merovingians to mythical Merops of Kos, grandfather father of Aedon (i.e. the Yuya and Aten cults were on Kos...near Miletus and Caria, haunt of a Mitanni branch, according to my recent investigations). In the Kos article, we find: "Kos was also known as Meropis." Another website tells that Kos was a descendant of Merops, suggesting possible Meropian roots in the Kos cult of Edom.

I just came across this: "The children of King Merops of Kos were impious and threw insults at the gods. His son Agron called Hermes just a common thief, and in wrath Hermes transformed him into a plover [= a bird]. The daughters were also transformed into birds by angry goddesses. Eumelos protested at their treatment and was turned by Hermes into a raven. " AGRron = Hagarites?? As I'm sure we're dealing with Horites = Horus = Ares = Rus here, note the raven that was a Rus-viking symbol.

I knew I had recorded a Coat using a plover, and finding it, it turned out to be in the English (Devon) Mander/Maunder Crest. Thus the Manders should trace to Agron and Merops.

The Mander Coat is the one using "Laus Deo" in the motto, the phrase like "Laus Deo" atop the Washington monument (thanks always to Mr. AMPton for that tip). I've viewed that monument as honor for Dionysus' Lyaios cult, but I also trace "Laus" to mythical MENElaus, code for Las/Laas on the Mani peninsula...which peninsula is a jut of the TAYgeti mountain! Suddenly, we have good reason to trace the Tey>Tiye>Yuya cult of Joktanites to the Taygeti theater of Sparta, and indeed I do trace Sepharvites (= Joktanites) from SUBARTu to SPARTa, not to mention that I trace them to Sybaris (southern Italy), the peoples of which are known founders of nearby Laus (!!)...very close to the Sirenuse islands that I think were founded by Seir-ian Horites.

It all fits like a belt and buckle around a Leslie hip. But the Mander plover has a slip of oak in its beak, and I suspect the oak to be a JOK(tan) symbol too.

The Washington Monuments traces to the Sirens, but we're not supposed to know because we're supposed to think that everything Washington has been a sacred Christian entity.

Moreover, I traced the Maenads (= Maeonians of the Maeander river flowing to Miletus) to the Meon region of Hampshire, where the Atrebates were found that I trace back to Atreus, father of Menelaus. The raven-depicted EuMELOS above could have been code for a Miletus peoples, therefore, and so note that Scots trace themselves to Miletus, which supports an Edinburgh trace to the Dionysus cult there.

Raven-depicted vikings were found in...Scotland. In fact, they founded Rothesay, and as that Stewart-beloved island was later Bute, note that mythical Butes jumped off his ship and started to swim towards the songs of the Sirens, wherefore the myth writers had been linking Butes with Sirens. Butes was the twin brother of Erechtheus of Athens (son of Hephaestus thigh/hip code), and that was the bloodline out of which Daedalus came forth...who was just traced to the Sirenuse theater days ago, where Isca=hip was located. Remember, the Isca location is now suspect as a root of the Euskals, whom I otherwise trace to Scylla, near, and related to, the mythical Sirens of Sirenuse. Think Asclepios (an owl term) of Kos (near Miletus).

Finding the spelling of a plover in Greek could be helpful for solving that riddle, but already I see the Maenads of Dionysus in the plover-using Mander bloodline.

The Yuya-point is that there was a mythical Merops of Ethiopia too, who appears, as per his "son," Phaethon of Eridanus, to be the same bloodline to the Merops>Aedon>Autun cult. Likely, Merops of what was then Ethiopia was at Merowe/Meroe now in the Sudan, suggesting that Yuya's proto-Autun family was linked to a peoples further up the Nile that were the proto-Merovingians. As I see Joktanites of Yemen (where we find Aden to this day) merging into the Yuya region of Akhmin, I would guess that proto-Merovingians in Merowe were in-part those north-migrating Joktanites, possibly explaining why Merovingians traced themselves to a bull, the Qinotaur.

Everything in these mythical conclusions spells: long-time enemies of Israel. Or: long-time satanists and haters of the Creator.

Laus and Sybaris were in Laconia-like Lucania, on the edge of Bruttium, and for that reason we expect those Sepharvite elements in Brittany, among the proto-Stewarts there. It's hard to say at first whether the Helion=Alan line of the Stewarts links to "Laus," but now is the time to mention Fe's email wherein she pointed out that Launay was merged with the French Perrot/Peraud surname. In the Perrots, who are also Parts, we're dealing with Perdix>Brits. The Perrot write-up: "First found in Brittany where they held a family seat in the seigneurie of Launay and Vieux Launay."

FE was interested in this because it was she who stressed the Lawn/Laney surname (Alan-Shield-like) earlier, which connects to the DeLaneys and Dallens that are at the root of the MagDalene cult (in my opinion), which was traced to "D'Allen" i.e. the Alans/Helions of Dol...who were exposed as branches of the "holy" Hagar-et-all bloodlines not many days ago.

I mentioned the Launay entity of the Perrots in the second update of September, 2009, where they were being linked to Keon-et-al surnames that were only afterward discovered to be in honor of Khyan, the Exodus pharaoh. In fact, not only was Khyan not on my brain then, but I didn't know that Kyhan was also called Apachnas, yet here's what I wrote:

The Davis motto is too small for me to read, but the David motto is, "pax et copia," while the English Paget/Packet surname [first in OXfordshite!] uses the same-style black-on-white lions. Both Crests use a black lion....

...the Paget motto, "Per il suo contrario," must also be code for the Perrel/Perault [= Perrot] surname using a white eagle on black...almost identical to the eagle of the same colors in the Paget Coat.

The Perault surname was "First found in Brittany where they were anciently seated in the seigneurie of Launay and Vieux Launay." LAUNY??? "DELaune" is a DeLaine variation. The previous update showed that Irish Delaney Coat uses a central red lion on white. The alternative-Irish Delaney Coat uses white fish on blue, thus connecting with certainty to the Scottish Laun surname and Irish Keon surname; both of the latter two are said to derive from "Ian/John," and meanwhile the Kane variation of "(Mac)Ian" not only uses fish but roughly the same arm and sword as in the Keon Crest. If that's not enough, the red-on-white eight-pointed stars in the Irish Delaney/Delaune Coat are also in the Keon Coat.

There is a feast to be had here for tracing Stewarts of the Magdalene cult to Ireland. For the first time we have the clue that Peraults of Brittany (and Pagets) were linked to proto-Stewarts of Dol...There is an English Parrot/Perrot surname, first found in Pembroke...where the Davis/Davids were also first found!!

The Welsh David/Davis and Davidson surnames were recently traced to "Sava" and/or other Sava elements from the Daedalus cult there. Tim had emailed on a David-like surname, which email I opened on the same night as Fe's Launay message. He was quoting on Wikipedia's Thoth article, which is when I realized the Daedalus could have been from Thoth elements, which I linked to mythical Thetis (Moloch-related mother of ACHilles!!) of the Nereid-branch Nahorites (i.e. jibes with a Daedalus identification with Nahorites).

After Tim wrote: Hi John, when I read on September 13th [update] this: "Look at the Thetis-like forms of "Thoth"..., he went on to share my quote taken from Wikipedia:

"The Egyptian pronunciation of dhwty [= Thoth] is not fully known, but may be reconstructed as dihauti, based on the Ancient Greek borrowing Thoth or Theut and the fact that it evolved into Sahidic Coptic variously as Thoout...Thaut...However, many write 'Djehuty'..."

...Djehuty is sometimes alternatively rendered as Jehuti, Tahuti, Tehuti, Zehuti, Techu, or Tetu...Among his alternate names are...Lord of Khemennu,..."

Remember that Teti-like Dido was of the historical Mattan/Mittan dynasty in Tyre, for I did suggest recently a trace of the Yuya Mitanni to king Mattan/Mittan. Note how "Jehuti" and "Tehuti" smack of Tjuya (Yuya's wife). "Kemennu" smacks of "Yemen" but also of "Akhmin," which is what suggests a Chemmite identity for Yuya's neck of the Nile. And Chemmites were Nahorites, but why not also a few Joktanites?

The point is, Tim sent the email to show that the Irish Doughtery surname could be linked to dhwry= Tehuti. I didn't see heraldic evidence necessarily for that link, but then I saw the Devitt variation reminding me of the David trace to "Sava" and "Savidge." I also kept a theory that the "Daud" variation of Davids linked to "Daed(alus)." The Dewi variation of the Davids smacks of "dhwty." And of course let's not neglect the same-colored Dewey surname of Devon, for indeed I link Daphne of Devon back to the Sabine relations of the Sava-river swan clans.

The Laus-based Manders/Maunders above were first found in Devon. One can suspect that Manders and kin were from mythical Manto of the Everes>Daphne bloodline out of Avaris of the Hyksos. Everes, the shepherd seer, gave birth to Tiresias, probably the Taurus cult at Tyre. Hence, Joktanite Hebrews.

On the same night, I opened another Tim email sharing the Montie/Mundie Coat, using purple lozenges, and once again, his forte: a fire symbol (from a wolf's mouth this time). The "Deus providebit" motto could link to the Mander's "Laus Deo," but in any case, is that "debit" in "providebit" code for a "David" clan? Also, the plover symbol of the Manders may be in play with "provi" (one is sometimes restricted to limited success with motto cleverness).

I don't know how the Dougherty surname got a Devitt variation. The clan is properly Dockeray/Dockerty, but the Dockharty variation could indicate the heart symbol of the Sava-river clans, used by Savidge-branch Davids. The heart is used also by the DOUGlas clan, and so we find a DOUGharty variation. I think folks, that the Timwatch Team has just discovered the roots of the Douglas clan! These could also have been the root of the Duces, Dukes, Tokes, and Dogs/Doaks. The latter were first in Perthshire. Just before Dougharty, there is a DOGerty variation.

The Irish Hartys are, to no surprise, Arts and Carts too, and they use a heart in colors reversed to Douglas' and Sauvages. The Harty Crest is a sword flammant, suggesting that flames in heraldry link to Flemings.

German Harts use a red-on-white stag, colors of the Dougherty/Docharty stag. They were first in Bavaria and seated at Grabenstadt, smacking of the Garibald Bavarians that I trace to Grabfeld. We could be taking Babenbergs here, therefore, and that jibes with a trace of Austrian Babenbergs to the Sava region.

We know this, that Sauers (Dallen-lion color) were from the Sau=Sava river, and as they were also "Sours," note the "Per il suo" motto phrase of the Pagets/Packets, whom I have no trouble tracing to Apachnas=Khyan. There's just one indication for what I reasoned earlier, that Khyan/Ixion-based Hyksos/Hebrews were in the Sava river. Remember, Pagets are easily deciphered as Davids/Daffys in the Sava (also "Save") river. Let's not forget the Daves/Davins first found in SAVoy, using Save colors.

We definitely have the snake by the tail. We await for God to take the money now hiding in the caves of these dragons, for redistribution to the poor and lame of the meek-filled earth.

Tim was able to dig and find that "Darity" is a Dougherty variation. The term snacks of the Darcy surname found a day after I opened his email. The Darcys (see yesterday) were Saracens, and Tim is responsible for bringing Saracen-Rus secrets to us. The Doughertys were in InisHOWEN, and aside from the Urquart link to the Innes clan, Owens use the Savidge lion in Savidge (and David-lion) colors. are a John-related surname like Keons-et-all whom are now known to be Kyhan-based Hyksos.

The Innes (uses Hagar(d) stars) write-up can easily link to the Dougherty clan at Inishowen: "The Innes family originally lived in either of the places called Ince in Cheshire and Lancashire, in the settlement of Innes in Cornwall, or in the barony of Innes in Urquhart." German Eckarts are said to be from an "agi" term. Scottish Echarts are Urquarts, suggesting link UrQUART kinship with DoCHARTys by way of an Eckart variation of "D'Ocharty." Possibly, "ECKHart" was from "AKH(min)" and/or AKHen(aten)" elements.

Then again, the Urquart surname may have come first, before the Eckart variation. The Argo ship in the Argonautica was made to sail up the Danube and then veer down into the Adriatic sea roughly past, or even through, the Sava river. I had traced Urquarts to Tolkien's mythical Orks of Orkney, and had even traced the leader of the Orks, Melkor, to Daedalus (I can't even recall why). The point here is that I had traced the Orks or Orkney to the Orchomenos Greeks, who had filled the Argo ship, and in another myth, that ship was made to sail by northern Scotland, where Orkney is found. The Orchomenians were from Boiotia, where Thebes is found.

I therefore expect Doughertys in the Sava region. The "do well" motto phrase of the Urquarts should be code for the Dowells/DOUGals, they being linked to Doughertys/ are the Urquarts themselves. But Dougals, as with Douglas', should trace to the Sava's heart-using clans, and so there you have the Urquart bloodline in the Sava, where Daedalus' Dido elements were parked.

The Ndutcus motto term of the Doughertys could be code for Dukes/Dooks of Devon, or even the Flemish Dutch/Duchman surname.

When one enters the Devitt variation of the Doughertys, another page comes up with the same Coat, but with a slew of David-like variations. The write-up: "First found in on the Inishowen peninsula, in County Donegal, where a sept of this name claim David O'Doherty (d. 1208,) a chief of Cenel Eoghain, as their ancestor." Ahh, that explains the David-like variations, and it can hardly be traced to "Sava" or "Daedalus."

Or can it? Might David Doherty have been named after the David-like surnames that came out of the Sava region? I note that Devitt variations include Daid and Dade. The Dade-Coat write-up then traces to "daed"!!! It suggests that the term means "deed," but Daedalus sure comes to mind. The Dade Coat (using gold garbs, Cheshire symbol) is in Dee-Coat colors, and the latter (first in Cheshire), in using "Hic labor" for a motto, must trace to the LABYRinth of Daedalus. Dduallt. Wales seems to have many DD-using terms, and I've always wondered why. TheDavids that I trace to the Sava-river Daedalus cult was first in Cheshire, and yet it's listed as a Welsh surname!

Is there such a thing as "growth" of the economy? There shouldn't be because one man's expenditure is another's income. Money just changes hands, but the overall size of the money pot stays the same.

Why do globalists want growing economies? Because expenditures bring taxes. On one extreme, if no one spends, business people will have less income, and less taxes will go to governments. On the other extreme where of people spend too much too fast, its sets up a recession to make up for it. So why not shoot for neither a growing nor a receding economy, and cruise right down the middle, nice-and-stable like? Yet Obama does not see that as a way to go:

" NEW DELHI, Nov 8 (Reuters) - U.S. President Barack Obama defended the Federal Reserve's policy of printing dollars on Monday after China and Russia stepped up criticism ahead of this week's Group of 20 meeting.

......'"I will say that the Fed's mandate, my mandate, is to grow our economy. And that's not just good for the United States, that's good for the world as a whole,' Obama said during a trip to India.

'And the worst thing that could happen to the world economy, not just ours, is if we end up being stuck with no growth or very limited growth,' he said."

The people don't need growth of the economy. Just keep it the same size at all times. But then the Fed can't have the excuse to print money. And printed money brings in instant taxes, as soon as it's spent. But who pays to return the printed money, with interest? And who gains from the interest?

Yes, the global economy will grow when money is printed, and that's why there's so much big government and other signs of wealth in the Western world. But very quickly after the printing, prices and wages rise to offset the benefits. If growing the economy is merely inflation, stick the balloon where it belongs, globalists, and let us have some peace. But no, globalists need our money to build their global government, and then, after it's on it's feet, there will be no end to the projects that they will continue to use our money for. We are clearly being made slaves to globalism.

Our only hope is that insiders turn on one another, destroying one another's powers, and to-boot it will help if the schemers and schemes are uncovered to prevent full fruition. The finding recently that climate-change scientists were manipulating the "science" did great damage to the climate-warmer beast, but it's coming back again for a second bite.

Speaking of growth, the headline: Gov't announces building of 1,300 apartments in east J'lem.

The announcement comes as Obama has had both legs sawed off. He can't even waddle as good as a duck. He can only move forward using his arms like a monkey, but Republicans have him in a cage anyway so that he won't get far. On top of that, the article above says that Russia and China don't like his money-printing operations.

The best thing for the world now is to have Obama's arms sawed off. Then he can become another kind of Big-O, rolling around, where the social wind blows, there he will go, tamed and under the control of the peoples, as it should be. Unfortunately, he'll roll to the tune of the liberals.

Obama is not the only monkey show:

"ARBIL, Iraq (AFP) - Iraq's political rivals met to discuss a proposed new power-sharing accord [today] but ended a first day of talks without a deal as the Sunni, Shiite and Kurdish blocs stuck to their demands.

...But their opening remarks to the three-day meeting indicated neither Maliki nor Allawi had backed down from their positions, prolonging a deadlock...

'It is necessary quickly to form a government which reflects the results of the elections,' said Allawi, whose party narrowly won the polls and who accuses his rival of refusing to respect the results.

...Against the background of a flare-up in violence since the end of October, Iraqiya members said their Sunni-backed party was being pressed to accept the post of parliament speaker.

...Dabbagh said that despite outstanding issues, Iraq's parliament would meet as planned on Thursday to choose a speaker, the first step towards forming a new government.

US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, meanwhile, said during a visit to Australia on Monday that Iraq should have a government that is representative of all groups.";_ylt=AknV8GF9sWmF0MjEZ76xQI75SpZ4

This is the same circus performer who would whip all Republicans clear out of the ring of power, if she could get her way. I'm not going to call her a buffoon again. But a baboon? Why not? She certainly has the fangs. And with some fancy footwork, she can shove a banana into her boss' mouth and tell him to swing out of town in time for O-12. Baboons don't work alone, and rise up suddenly in a fury.

Apparently, the Kurds have not reached an agreement with Maliki, or he would just up and form a government yesterday, without the 800-pound Allawi in the room.


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