Expanding on the Seleucid Bloodline
Stewarts are from Pharisees!
December 2 -- 3 -- 4 -- 5
I came across the Picasso surname at Jerusalem Post yesterday, which looks much like one of yesterday's topics, AmBICATUS. The Picasso surname was first found in Treviso/TARVisium (Venetia,) which is not far from the Drava-river theater and it's Hercuniates and Boii. However, the surname has diverse Pic-using variations including Picini, Picardi, and Picapra, wherefore the Picasso spelling might be only coincidentally like "Ambicatus."
As evidence of a trace to the Maccabees (who had one ruler named Hyrcanus), the Coat uses the Kay bird (I tentatively trace Kays/Cais to the same stock as Maccabees). The Coat also uses what should be the Drummond waves because I've linked Drummonds to Darbys/Dermots and Trabys. The Drummonds were also linked to the raven-depicted vikings, along with the MacKays, of northern Scotland.
Treviso has a Sile/Sil river, which is interesting because I had planned to start today on the Salyes-branch Gauls before I came across the Picasso surname. I was going to show how the Salyes could be Seleucids from Sulcis, or perhaps how Seleucids may have been from Salyes stock. The Treviso article says that Pliny called the Sile, the "Silis."
I already had the Sullivan Coat loaded, prepared for today, before coming across the Picasso surname, and like the latter, the Sullivan Crest uses the Kay bird! It strikes me that I was just thinking, before going to the Sullivan Coat and while still at the Sile article, that we could expect Sile-related entities to use some form of "Venetia," and there we have one in "SulliVAN."
The Kay bird has been called a canary when used by Kinners, and a finch, while the Sullivans (see their alternative Coat) call it a A robin on a lizard proper. I hold a theory in which the lizard is code for Lezards (Leslie colors), who I think were a Leslie branch. I've lost the online info that traced proto-Leslies by a similar name to Padua, very near Treviso. AND, Leslies are expected to be related to Drummonds because both came to Britain from Hungary.
Lezards were first found in Provence, the theater of Bellovesus before he invaded northern Italy. Their Sarde/Sardo variations smacks of the Sardeates on this Celt map, not far from the Drava. If I'm not mistaken, the un-named river to the Drava's south is the Sava, and it's source is near Lesce, where I've recently traced proto-Leslies. The spot is marked by the Latobici Celts, BUT THE POINT IS NOW that Sardeates are on one bank of that same river!
Lazard is the name of a world-class bank, and the Lezard Coat above is exactly the Armstrong Coat; the latter surname was linked to Rothschilds days ago.
The Treviso article tells that some people root "Treviso/Tarvisium" to "Taurisci," and that's the source of the Drava. At the Traby article, we read that a trambi-like term means "horn" in Polish, explaining the Traby bugle horns. But "Taur" can also denote a horn. "Tramby" is much like "Drummond," and like "Thermo(don)," the term that I think was also "Trab(zon)." Then there is "saurus" (i.e. as in "Sauromati") meaning "lizard."
Thus we appear to be dealing with Sarmatians and Amazons in the Illyian-Celt zone, and Sardis in Lydia was by all likelihood an Amazon city. This topic lends extra-well to the Salyes topic because I'm tentatively tracing to "Sulcis," which is on SARDinia.
I've been spotting several boars lately, and Artemis of the Thermodon Amazons sent a boar into Calydon...that I thought was code for Corinth because the city's name sounds like a Greek word for 'pig." The points are: I have just traced Bellovesus and his brother, Segovesus, to Corinth/Sicyon, and as the boar was a mythical symbol in Cornwall, the Cornovi Celts (named after a horn) may have been Corinthians. Then, not far from the Sardeates, we see the Cornacates...at the mouth of the Drava.
The Calydonian boar was shot though by the arrows of Atalanta and Meleager of Calydon, he depicting the Khaldi Amazons as they evolved into Calydonians, and they in-turn into the Celts. The Pollock Crest uses a boar shot through by an arrow, and so we may entertain that the Pollocks, and other Poles, were somehow connected to the myth's entities. The Poles are important because king Mieszko was traced (by someone else) to Sardinia. And I therefore think that Mieszko could also link to the Maezaei Celts smacks beside the Sardeates.
On the Salyes Gauls (sometimes writers don't know whether to use "Gaul" or "Celt"):
"The powerful military tribal confederation of the Salyes or Salluvii in ancient geography, occupied the plain of the Druentia (Durance) in southern Gaul between the Rhone River and the Alps.."
The "Salluvi" term smacks of the Sullivans, who use a boar. After writing that and looking at the Sullivan Coat again, I loaded the Plante/Plantagenet Coat because I recognize it's stag symbol on the Sullivan Coat, and then it was recalled that the English Venus Coat uses almost the same stag, meaning that SullinVANs should in fact trace to the VENeti because Venus was code for them. That's one piece of evidence linking the Salyes to the Silis/Sile river in Venetia.
When seeking Sulcis-related surnames some months ago, the Sullivan surname was arrived at after finding the Sully surname, which is also Sill(e)y and Silliman. It uses a triple chevron in colors reversed from the Singletary Coat, which uses a broken spear with an antelope, the antelope being a symbol of the Darbys. I had theorized that both an ANTelope and the ANTlers of a stag were symbols for the HENeti>Veneti. On te Celt map again, we not only find the ANDizettes on the Drava, but opposite the river's mouth, beside the AmANTINI, is the locale os SINGIdunum.
I had traced Segovesus to mythical Sisyphus (king of Corinth when it was Ephyra), because I realized that "Sisy(phus)" was code for neighboring Sicyon. Sisyphus was a son of Aeolus and Enarete, what I claim are the Sarmation Alans and Nahorites leading to the Nerthus cult in Polabia and Mechlenberg, where a Drava-like river, the Trave, is found.
Then, in Wikipedia's article on the Polabian Slavs, we find a Lesce-like term: "South of the Hevelli lived the ancestors of the modern Sorbs, the Lusici of Lower Lusatia..." Zowie, it looks like Sorbs were descended from Lesce on the Sava. In all likelihood, the Lusici named Lusatia, for that place is also "Luzyca/Luzice." See the red bull of Lower Lusatia that may be in use in the Mieske Coat.
As I'm dealing with a Mieszko trace from Sulcis to Silesia, see a map of old Poland with the Silesians smack in the middle. Next to them ate the MASOvians.
As we read above that the Salyes region of the Rhone was at the Durance river, which was also the Durantia, the Durante surname should apply because it was first found in Dauphine. The surname's write-up, however, traces to "enduring," but now you know why we should ignore many off-the-wall derivations based on sound-alike terms. "Dur(an) smacks of "Taur/Turin."
Let's not forget that Dauphine should trace to Daphne, who's city, Daphne, was later Antioch, named after the son of Seleucus I (the founder of Seleucids), whose peoples named Sant'Antioco = Sulcis on Sardinia.
The Italian Durante Coat uses a sun, and because we would expect the Durantia river to be related to the Salyes/Salluvii Celts, we should be reminded that the Solana Coat (this stock of peoples is suspect for ruling Europe to a large degree today) uses a sun, and once used it in Durante colors, if I'm not mistaken.
The Italian Durante Coat uses the Italian Abreu castle as well, and that surname was first in Padua, smack beside Treviso (said to be named after a Taurus entity)...where the Silis/Sile river flows. The Polabia article claims that the term should be understood as Po-Elbe, and if that's true, Polabians could trace to the Po/Padus river that named Padua. I say that because I see multiple reasons for tracing Polabians to the Veneti theater.
Thus far it appears that Solanas, Sullys/Sillys, Sullivans, Silesians, the Sile(s) river, the Salyes Celts, and the Seleucids of Sulcis are all related. But then there are also the Talbot-related Sellicks and the Sales-of-Masci.
The Durantia article seems to link to the Clare and the Gos/Gois surnames: "The Durance flows more slowly than the Claree or Guisane, even though they are further downstream." Ranulf le Meschin was a Gos/Gois on his mother's side, and a Briquessart on his father's side, which leads back to EYstein of the Claro/Sinclair line.
The Durante ship reminded me of the Gunn/Guinne; here's the Gunn write-up: "The Gunns, the Sinclairs, the Mackays and the Gordons ruled the far northern reaches of Scotland...First found in the Orkney." The Guin/Quinn Coat is in Durante colors, and uses a Pegasus, the Massey Crest symbol.
It's hard to say from the Silvan/Salvan Coat whether that surname links to the Sullivans, but I think I can make the link in another way, if the Sullivans trace to the Silis/Sile river. The [Sile] meets its tributary the Botteniga, or Cagnan, at Treviso." The Cagnan term stuck in my mind as per the Cohen/Kagan surname, for the "Jewish" Cohen/Kagan Coat uses a sun in the colors of the sun of the Italian Durante Coat. Then, in the Silvan/Salvan write-up -- not forgetting that I trace Cohens/Kagans to Khazars of TanSYLVANIA -- we find unexpected Cuckney, Cucknay, and Cukney variations, smacking of the Cagnan river. The Silvan/Salvan motto includes, "qu'en mourant," perhaps code for Cohens and the Murats of the Mures river (Transylvania) to which I trace the Khazar stock that put forth Cohens.
I had traced Flemings to Transylvania, and so see the Silvan write-up: "First found in Nottingham where the family name is descended from a Norman noble Joceus le Flemangh who accompanied William the Conqueror into England and was granted part of a knight's fee at Cuckney in that shire."
I don't think those things are coincidental; I say the Silvans/Salvans trace to the Sile river. If that's true, then the Sellicks/Seliocs should trace to the same stock that named the Sile river because the Silvan/Salvan Coat is an image of the Sellick/Selioc Coat!!
At this point, it's necessary to show once again that the Sellick Coat above is a version of the English Talbot Coat, and that the latter were first found in SALop (Shropshire). Next we look at the Robin Coats because Sullivans call their Kay bird, a robin. The Robins use thistles, and when we get to the Thistle Coat, we find a near-match with the French Talbot Coat.
The Cohen-related evidence above of am Italian-Durante trace to the Sile river is over-and-above the Durante write-up's trace to Venice. But leaving the 'e' off, we find other Durant Coats. English Durants were early in Salop. Scottish Durants (Mackay/Macey Shield?) are in Italian Durante colors, and use striped black bugles like the Trabys. The Robins use a "post" motto term, and Dutch Posts use a black bugle. German Posts (Dutch Post colors) have a Poest variation perhaps linking to "Piast."
As per the Sullivan trace to the Sile, it can be added that the Sullivan motto term, "foistenach," caused a check of the Foster surname...with striped black bugles, in the gold stripe color of the Trabys and Durantes! Perhaps Posts were Fosts, in which case there could be a Fosten-like clan that applies. The "Posten" term brings up the Post bugle.
Spanish Durans use three vertical blue bars of the same proportions and positioning as the blue bars of the Lazard Coat. As Lazards were first in Dauphine, up the Rhone a ways, so too was the Durantia river. The river has a source in Hautes-Alps, and as you can see, the Arms of Hautes-Alps uses the Dauphine dolphin. The river ends in Bouches-du-Rhone, where Marseilles is located, and this is where it gets Salyes-of-Masci interesting.
The Salyes peoples, we read recently, were Ligurians; the latter were founded near Marseilles, which was long ago also "Massalia," a very Massey- and Masculine-like term (the latter is a Meschin variation). As you know if you put up with my repetition, Meschins were closely linked to Ligurians, but now it seems that they became Ligurians, and even named Massalia:
"The hill-top oppida originally inhabited by Ligures at the time of Massilia's foundation about 600 BC, which were strung out between the fords of the Rhone and Durance and the approaches to the Alpine passes, were not bound together by any uniting force; according to Strabo the older Greeks called these people Ligyes, and their territory Ligystike...
In 154 BC. the Hellenic inhabitants of Massilia...appealed for aid against the Oxybii [Taurus?], who controlled the Argens valley and Decietes (or Deciates). These people, called by Livy 'transalpine Ligurians', were perhaps two smaller tribes included under the general name of Salyes....
The Decietes caught my eye, so I went back to the Celt map, and there beside the Maezaei were the Daesitiates...on the Drina river! All morning I've been keeping eyes out for a Durantia-river or Durante trace to the "Drina." I see Dacians not far off from the Daesitiates, and whether or not they are related, I would identify the latter with the Dia=Deylamite entity of mythical DaeDalus (I've traced main Daedalus=Deylamite elements nearby at Liburni at Dalmatia (shown on map). I'm wondering whether Drina was a Dorian domain.
I was going to pass on suggesting a Vere-of-Oxford trace to the Oxybii Ligurians above, until I learned that the Deciates lived on the west side of the Var river! The Veres of Manche were related to the Masseys of Manche, if that helps to trace Masseys to the Ligurian domain of Massalia and the Durantia river.
WOW, I inserted the last sentence of two paragraphs above after writing the paragraph above, and so I checked for Drino=like surnames and fell upon the Durante-like Darren term that brought up the Dorans from Lug/Ligur-like Leix in Ireland. And when the Coat design finally loaded, there was the half-black half-white boar of the Sullivans!!
Moreover, Leix is also Laois (ultimately from "Lughaid Laoighesach"), and it's in Leinster, the latter term said to be rooted in "Lug" (sun god). Remember, I link Manche to the Manx of the Isle of Man that was founded by a Manannan Danann people of Ireland that were merged with Lug. Veres use a boar too, but the Arms of Oxford use an elephant, and I see the Republican-logo elephant when I look at the flag of Liguria.
I should also mention that Sullivans use a "Lamh" motto term, and that there is a Lambesc region near Massalia. I can't recall the details, but more than year ago I traced Piast Poles to Liguria, a surprising finding at the time. Mieszko II was called Lambert.
The Sales of Mascy were related to the Duttons of Masci, who must have been Tattons of Masci (for Duttons and Tattons use the same Shield, like the Massey and Vere Shield). The Tatton Shield's red/white crescents are proof in my mind that the "spiro spero" motto phrase of the Massins/Masons links to the Speers and Sprees (red/white crescents), meaning also that Massins/Masons were Masseys. The point is this: "Part of [Salyes] territory was handed over to the Massaliotes [= peoples of Massalia]. Their king, Tutomotulus (or Teutomalius), took refuge with the Allobroges. From this time the Salyes practically disappear from history."
No, they didn't disappear. They went to Salop as the Sales (use French Talbot Coat, apparently), Talbots, and Meschins, where also the "father" of the Salyes, Bellovesus, who put forth the Bellamys. The Tuto/Teut character above may not represent the Duttons/Tattons only, but the Daedalus branch of Dido. "TutomoTULUS" has an ending like "DaeDALUS," and should be related to Talos=Perdix, suggesting that "Salyes" could be a Talos variation.
Tuttles use what looks like the French Talbot Coat, but as a similar Coat is used by the Thistles/Thissels, they and Tuttles/Tuttels appear to be variations of the same clan. The Tuttles (crescents in French-Bell crescent colors) use the Danish Bauer leopard, and the blue lion of the Thistles (Coat in both in Massin colors) starts to look like the Masson-Mason blue lion.
There is a Siles/Silles/Sells Coat using an engrailed black bar, the symbol also of the Sales of Mascy. The Siles lion is in the colors of the Duttons, and uses the Dutton "fret."
Long before coming to this topic, while working on Grecian traces to western Sicily, I realized that the Massalia region was founded by western Sicilians of the ERYX theater, where mythical ERECHtheus=Butes migrated (from Athens). NOW that I think the French Massey/Masse boot represents Butes, it would appear that Masseys were indeed involved in the naming of Massalia. The thing is, Sulcis/Sardinia is very near Massalia, and the Maezaei of the Sava-river region are situated on the Celt map smack beside the Sardeates.
After writing the paragraph above. I went to the Sulcis article (haven't been there in months) to discover a Masse-like location: "Situated in Sulcis are the municipalities of Calasetta, Carbonia...Masainas..." Going to the Masainas article, there was found the islands of Solinas and Mancas, the latter smacking of Manche (where Masseys were first found)! Masaines would be the natural place to stop a ship en route from Massalia to western Sicily.
Checking without luck for a Manca(s) surname, and knowing that there isn't a Manche surname, I tried "Mannes" (a possible variation, I thought, of "Manx"). And there was the Massey-of-Manche Shield in the German Mannes/Mann Coat! This is extremely important for my traces of Masseys to Mathie/Mann surnames, and to the "manu" motto term of the Mackays.
The Mannes/Mann Coat uses what i think is the "Jewish" Levi lion (not rare in heraldry, so may not belong first of all to the Levis). Also, the Coat uses a savage wearing what I suspect is the Masonic apron.
Thus, we seem to have the link of Sicily's three legs to the same in the Isle of Mann via the (proto-)Masseys of Manca, Sardinia. WOW, after writing that, I checked the Trap surname because I trace Sicily's three legs to Trapani (western Sicily, Butes theater), and before the Trap Coat loaded, there was the write-up telling that Traps were first in Styria. I had just finished reading that the Mannes/Manns were first in Styria!!! AND, the Trap (also "Trapper") Coat is in the white-on-red of the Polish Traby/Sadowski Coat. . AND AND AND, I had traced the scala=ladder of the English Trips just days ago to the Scylla region of Sicily, and found that German Trips use the Massey/Masse boots exactly!!! It's amazing what heraldry codes can trace. Historians should get on the ball and get with it.
The Troop/Trup Coat isn't shown, but the write-up traces to a merger with the Keiths/Marshalls. As Keiths were Catti from Hesse, what of the Silvers, first found in Hesse? They use one fat crescent in Bell- and Tuttle-crescent colors (English Silvers use a bell pattern in the same colors). There is a Droop/Trupe Coat showing blood-drops, apparently.
The Drape Crest stag could be a version of the Darby Crest antelope (both are red). Drapes use grails, and their Dreyper variation helps to recall the Traby trace to Troy.
Back to the Salyes article, we find evidence of a link to Taurisci, where the Treviso/Tarvisium locale (where the Silis/Sile river is situated) is traced by some: "In addition to the capital of the Salyes at Entremont...among other important Roman towns in their territory may be mentioned Tarusco or Tarasco (Tarascon)..." That makes the Salyes appear Etruscan, to some degree, anyway.
There's an Entremont in Valais, Switzerland, the canton where Sion is found. This is a good place to remind you that the Valois/Valais Coat smacks of the Tuttle Coat!
There's anotherEntremont nearby in Bonneville of Haute-Savoy. The Bonne/Bone surname was traced (by more than it's Coat symbols) to Ferte-Maces = Bellamy! There are two Bonneville Coats if you want further investigation.
I would suggest that the Salyes were the Talos aspect of Perdix, and of DaeDALUS. I haven't clinched a Talos trace to Telchis=Telchines," nor have I clinched a "Seleucus" trace to Telchis elements, but the trace to Bellovesus' brother (Segovesus) to Sicyon is a good start, for mythical Telchis was a ruler in that place (his sons were despised) before it was called Sicyon.
In this genealogy, he is made a descendant of Inachus and the Melia Boiotians. Another webpage explains"
"Aegialeus is said to be the son of the river god Inachus and the oceanid Melia. Some have said that he was childless, but others say that he was the father of Europs, father of Telchis and Hermion, the founder of the city of Hermione, near Troezen. Telchis begot Thelxion, and Thelxion begot Apis...[these could be the Antayla Pisidians to the Hermus Lydians of Pelops associations, Trojan-kin Amazons that went on into Peloponnesus]
During the reign of Apis, the territory that later was called Peloponnesus was named Apia after its ruler. However, it has also been said that Apis was son of Phoroneus, who is called the first man, or that he was the son of Apollo, or even of Telchis [keeping in mind that Apollo's sacred island of Delos smacks of "DaeDalus," "Talos," and "Telchis"]...
Peratus [sub-title not mine!!]
Thelxion, they say, had a son Aegyrus, who begot ThuriMACHAS [caps mine], father of Leucippus [the Leuci proto-Ligurians, apparently), who had a daughter Calchinia, who consorting with Poseidon, gave birth to Peratus, who in turn became king of Sicyon, succeeding his grandfather on the throne."
AMAZING. I have not been back to this article in years! It had the proof I needed all along, that Talos was Peratus=Perdix, and that Perdix was from the line of Techis>Thelxion. ZOWIE! Peratus the pirate, right?
The article goes on; I'll keep comments light:
Peratus had a son Plemnaeus, whose children died the very first time they wailed. But Demeter, taking pity on him, came to Aegialia (which was the name of Sicyon at that time) in the guise of a strange woman, and reared for Plemnaeus his son Orthopolis, who in time fathered Chrysorthe. This girl was loved by Apollo, giving birth to a son Coronus who became the father of Corax and Lamedon."
DEMeter can be regarded as ArTEMIS, symbol of THEMIS, likely a variation of the dragon cult, Tammuz/Dumuzi. We see Dumuzi>Demeter as a major figure in the line to Lamedon, wherefore this must be the same as Laomedon (Trojan ruler), husband of THEMISte, where the latter was made "married" to Capys, son of Assaracus (Trojan ruler), the Saracen line to Cheshire's Mascys and Meschins...and possibly Maccabees. I'm looking for a Sisyphus-like term in this article, and so far "Asopus" stands out, a river near/in Sicyon:
"...Lamedon brought from Attica an ally Sicyon to help him wage war against his enemies. This Sicyon he married to his daughter Zeuxippe, and that is why Sicyon became king after Lamedon, calling the land after himself. Some say that Sicyon was son of Metion, son of Erechtheus, or of Eupalamus; others say he was son of Erechtheus [twin brother of Butes]; still others say that Sicyon was son of Pelops [Heneti], and yet others say that his father was Marathon, son of Epopeus.
Sicyon had a daughter Chthonophyle, who consorted with Hermes and had by him a son Polybus, who inherited the throne after Sicyon...
As Polybus died without a son, the kingdom reverted to Adrastus, who some say was son of Polybus's daughter Lysianassa by Talaus, king of Argos...
The Sicyon line ends with a Talos-like Talaus, of an Atreus-like entity that named the Adriatic sea, suggesting that Sicyon's peoples ended up as the Illyrians and Celts leading to Bellovesus Gauls. Telchines on Rhodes had to be associated with Galli-like Helios of Rhodes, he being the Galli-like city of Ialysos, and so the Gali=Gauls, first situated in France, were likely Rhodians on the Rhone and therefore proto-Rus. The Celts trace to Amazons/Meshech, on the other hand.
In the news, the Egyptian leader advised the United States to leave Iraq for a dictator:
"Mubarak explained his recipe for going forward," the [WikiLeaks] cable said.
'Strengthen the (Iraqi) armed forces, relax your [American]hold, and then you will have a coup. Then we will have a dictator, but a fair one. Forget democracy, the Iraqis by their nature are too tough.'
The idea might be getting around. Mubarak's tough idea was to keep Iran from influencing Iraq.
Tim sent in the list of McLeod septs, showing the Teagues and their variations as just one of many septs. This recalls the 5th update of November:
...If true that McLeods were named after a Clovis variation, as for example, Chlodovech or Ludovicus...see that entering "Clode" brings up the McLeod Coat. The Cloud variation of the clan evokes my link of Nibelungs to Merovingians, suggesting that Clovis was actually named, "cloud," the English variation of "nebula," before the 'u' was made a 'v.'
The Clovis trace that I'm making round-about to the Touques river [Normandy] may explain the following from the king-Clovis article: "Clovis was the first King of the Franks to unite all the Frankish tribes under one ruler...He was the son of Childeric I and Basina....The Salian Franks were one of two Frankish tribes who were then occupying the area west of the lower Rhine, with their center in an area known as Toxandria, between the Meuse and Scheldt...."
TOXANdria, in the Batavi theater!
McLeods were on Lewis, and another Clovis variation was Loius.
Not only did I link Teagues/Tiges to the Teucerian Trojans that were linked also to the Touques river, but "Lewis" and its variations are shown at the Stewart-sept page. This is important where Veres claim to be both Stewarts and Merovingians, and where the McLeod Coat is in Stewart-check colors. Also, as Veres used a green dragon, so the Welsh Lewis Coat shows a green dragon.
A green dragon is also used by the Crichtons, represented by a branch on Bute, and Bute was the Scottish island seized by Stewarts as son as they ascended the Scottish throne (as per Bruce II). The Stewart-sept page shows a G;ass surname, which was traced just days ago to Glasgow (Renfrewshire), where Stewarts were concentrated. The Renfrew and Ayrshire regions, that it, which is the Scottish mainland overlooking Bute.
Also, a shown sept of Stewarts is the Werarthy clan, which looks like a Vere-Arthur combination, and indeed the Werarthy Crest shows a wyvern dragon (winged, no front legs, the Vere-dragon species). I say that Tolkien believed Bute to be the island of Avalon, for he placed an Avallone a location on a fictitious Eressea island, smacking of "Rothesay, the earlier name of Bute. It was on Bute that the Werarthy surname was first found?
This is important because Veres trace their Melusine element to Avalon before it founded Veres of Anjou (whoever they were).
Note that the Lewis' were first in GlaMORGAN, which was also MORGANnwg, for mythical Morgay le Fay was the chief witch on Bute and should apply to the Veres there. But Morgans are listed at Wikipedia's page for MacKay septs, suggesting it to be correct to link Stewarts to Mackays et-al, even as Mackays-et-al are linked to Veres. Don't neglect here that I'm tracing Mackays-et-al to Maccabees and Pharisees/Saducees.
The McLeods show a Herrod and similar sept smacking of the king Herods. And the Herrod Coat shows a Torah-like symbol, though it's called a "flory couterflory," referring to the fleur-de lys ends. The Herod "Israelites" could be, therefore, the true "holy grail" of the Merovingians and their Arthurian relatives.
I had shown the Herrod Coat a few years ago as the Hurl Coat (McLeods show Hurl-like variations that bring up the Herrod Coat). The Herrod surname is said to derive from "Harold," but we would expect to be told such if indeed the clan knew of roots in king Herods. I tentatively traced the Hurls/Herrods to Herluin of Conetville (de Burgo), who married the Conqueror's mother. It's known that Herluin was ancestor to Ranulf le Meschin.
Before I show how a Teague-like McLeod sept link to Sullivans, which as you know (if you've read recently) was just linked to the Salyes Ligurians at the mouth of the Rhone, and "Salyes" have been linked to "Salop," the city where proto-Stewart Alans lived before moving to the Bute region.
By the way, septs are defined as descendents, not ancestors, which is why Al(l)ans don't appear in the list of Stewart septs. Allans and Allansons appear as septs in the Mackay list, meaning that Mackays appear to be ancestral to Stewarts. That explains why Stewarts are close to Leslies, for Leslies were in the Polish theater where I trace Mackays/Meschins et-al. Leslies are of obvious important in the McLeod topic for while Leslies use the motto, "Grip fast," McLeods use, "Hold fast."
The Leslies also use a green dragon, and the Save Shield, meaning that they trace to the Lesce location of the Sava/Save river. I showed yesterday how "Lesce" traces to the Lusici peoples that named Luzyca/Luzice=Lusatia (Poland), and I maintain that mythical Melusine of the Veres depicted. not just the Melusines=LUSIGnans (which is roundly known), but also the Lusatians (which is not roundly known). As both Leslies and Drummonds proper came to Scotland from Hungary, they appear related, and so that explains the "German" Drummond waves -- horizontal blue and white wavy bars -- smacking of the horizontal blue and white bars in the Arms of Lusignan.
Blue and white alternations also appear in the Arms of McLeod shown at the McLeod-sept page...under a black bull that I would trace both to the Mieske Coat and to the bull of Lower Lusatia. The McLeod Coat is white-on-blue, the colors of the three Drummond bars.
Three horizontal bars are used in black on white by the Arms of Trebizond Empire, helping to clinch a trace of "Drummond" -- and therefore Leslies, Stewarts, Veres, and Masseys/Mackays -- back to the "Thermo(don)" river of Trabzon. That's where the Pyxites river was located, which I trace to Picts and Pictones, the latter known to found Poitou...where Lusignan is located. Lusignans made it to the Templar throne of Jerusalem, and use a red lion, the English Stewart symbol, for their branch on Cyprus...where Herods had family and/or ancestry.
The Mossynoeci lived in Trabzon, and Leslies are suspect as the Lasonii=Lydians of Mysian-branch Amazons. Remember, Merovingians lived on the Toxandria, between the Meuse and Scheldt, and Teucer depicted a Mysian people.
As per the Bute location, and all that it means to the topic at hand, I need to repeat some things to make a point. Veres trace themselves to the Anaki, whom I identify as Na(c)horites. The Anaki were depicted in Sumerian myth as Anu and his relation, Enki of Uruk, the Biblical Erech. Mythical ERECHtheus ("god of Erech," apparently) of Athens was made the twin brother of Butes, which I explain as a Butes-and-Erechtheus trace back to Enki Nahorites and Buzites. Enki's water cult has been traced my many to Poseidon (god of waters), and I link "Pos(eidon)" with the mythical Abzu (double code, one for Buzites and the other for water) part of the Enki cult.
In short, I trace Buzites to Stewarts on Bute, but for that reason also to the Butes cult on Erech-like Eryx of Trapani, Sicily. Some years ago, I traced the Merovingians to Trapani, which makes sense because Trapani was founded by Elymians, said to be Trojans, while Franks also trace themselves to Trojans. Yes, Franks can be traced to Trojans via their self-maintained links to the Heneti>Veneti, but now we have two Trojan lines to Merovingians (the "first Franks," it is said).
And the one from Sicily is suspect as the Aeneas-Mysian>Meshwesh>Massey line, which is interesting because I traced Aeneas to Aeneus, husband of Aenette, who appear as Heneti codes. I trace Heneti to mythical Anat, who is said to be Antu, wife of Anu, wherefore it now appears on two counts that the Butes cult at Trapani traces to the Enki cult.
I've said all that because I trace Buzite Nahorites to the Uat=Buto cult of Egypt, who were Chemmites. And when I investigated (a few months ago) Chemmite-like surnames, I not only mentioned the Kemmis surname (three horizontal bars), but the Kimbal/Kemble surname because I assumed that Chemmites were named after Kemuel, Nahor's son immediately after he had Buz.
It gets interesting now because "Kimmey" is registered both under the Kimbal/Kemble clan and the Kimmie/Cammie clan, using Kemmis blue and white. The Kimmies/Cammies are said to be from "Simon," and that now traces back to the Samson-cult Hyksos-Danaans, perfectly expected when tracing Chemmites that were Perseus-branch Danaans by their own admission.
Chemmites lived in Sais (Nile delta), and the Kimmie/Cammie Coat uses a motto, "Je suis prest," as if to link both to Sais and to the Priest/Presley surname; we're wondering whether Priests (estoiles in Kimmie colors) and/or Priests/Presleys (wyvern) and/or Prestons (unicorn, possible code for Enki elements) link to the Pharisees that I reasoned recently to be from Perseus stock. The Kimmie motto is apparently giving the impression that Kimmies honor Jesus.
AND, zowie, as per all the many times that I've traced Stewarts, in various ways, to Nahorites, now is the time to tell of Stewart septs of Camey, Cammey, Gammey, Kammey, Khimie, Khimmie, and more.
Also shown is: Kynnie, Kynny, and MacKyny, smacking of the Kenys variation of the Kemmis/Kemey surname (shown above), and as that smacks of the Cyner/Kyner alternative of mythical Ector, the father of KAY/Cai, note that the Kemmis/Kemey surname also uses "KEYmich." Remember the trace of mythical Kay/Cai, not only to the Hecuba>Hector>Paris Trojans, but tentatively to "Caiaphas."
The Kimmies/Cammies show an Immie variation, and the Stewart septs include MacImey, MacImie, MacImmey, and MacImmi. I'm wondering whether the MacIney/Inie/Inney clan (also shown in the sept list) links to the Inces/Ines'...who use what looks like the Kay Shield.
The Priest Crest uses a footless martin, in the same color, as the one in the WerArthy Coat, suggesting links to Merlin/Myrddin. The Werarthy page shows a Berarthy variation smacking of Arthur's bear symbol...that I now know links to "Vere."
The Arthur surname was first in bear-depicted BERwickshire, and that was the BERNician theater, whose Bebbanburg and Bamburgh (Scotland) entities I traced to Zharingers and Veringens, whom I deduced as proto-VARANGians, a BERNICian branch, and root of "Vere." The Scottish Bebbanburgs were ruled by queen Bebba, and meanwhile the German Bebe/Babbel Coat uses Melusine. You get it.
English Babels use blue and white bars (like Lusignan and it's Melusines peoples), but in a vertical direction. Jewish Babels don't show a Coat and leave out the write-up too. We wonder why. Lezards/Sardes (mentioned above/yesterday) use a Coat similar to English Babels, and this design was also linked to the Amerike clan.
Thanks to FE, we have the Amerikes (from Wales) discovered as the Welsh Merik/Maurice surname, using a Drummond-like wavy bar (i.e. in white-on-blue), meaning that the Amerike surname was from Maurice, the first Drummond who came to Scotland from Hungary...with Leslies aboard the ship that he piloted. We get it. The Merik Coat uses a green sea horse, and while this symbol was traced to Trojans not many days ago, it was a Poseidon and Thetis (i.e. Nahorite) symbol too.
White-on-blue Irish Cohens/KYNES use a green sea horse too, and that not only smacks of the Stewart sept of Kynes, and the similar variation of the Kimmies, and of Ector=Kyner=Hector Trojans, but Stewarts use blue and white checks, the symbol of German Cohens/Kagans. I think we're not only talking Chemmites here, but Khyan-branch Hyksos.
The strange Barnicle variation of the Irish Cohens can be linked to "Bernicia." I did trace Cohens to historical Melissena of Byzantium, and her white-on-blue Rangabe bloodline (It's not told whether Rangabes were Melissena's Byzantine side, or her royal-Khazar side (that had merged with Byzantium).
Okay, now for the MacTish Sept of McLeods. The Tish Crest uses the "elephant trunks" that were a symbol of the Zharingers. The Tish Coat has the Kay bird, used also in the Sullivan Crest. Tishes were first found in Silesia, and that's where I've traced Sullivan roots (of Sulcis elements).
The Tish bird is unusually brown (not gold), the background also of the Kinner bar whereupon we see the same bird.
Not surprisingly, the Kinner bird is called a Kinner-like canary, but the Sullivan bird is called a robin, for which reason I linked it to the Robin surname. As an aside to the topic, I should mention here that the "Vivit" motto term of the Robins must link to the Vivian/Vey surname, for the Vivian chevron is in colors reversed to the Robin chevron. The Vivian chevron uses purple lions, the color of the Lacy lion (I'm thinking Leslies here). I had traced "Vey" to "Morgan le Fay," likely the Melusine=Leslie clan on Avalon. The Robin Coat uses thistles, linking it to the same-colored Thistle Coat, which uses a diagonal bar in the colors of the diagonal Leslie bar. The Thistle bar has pheons, which is the French Robin symbol, that surname first found in Brittany where proto-Stewarts had some powers.
The point is that the Tish surname should connect as a branch to the Thistles/Thissels. Tishes use variations such as Tischle, Tischel, and Tishel. This then becomes a second way to link Tishes to Sullivans, which in turn links Tish ancestors -- McLeods and their Leslie sides -- to the Seleucids out of Sulcis...and likely into the Salyes Ligurians (yesterday's topic). That's how timely a Tim email has turned out once again, for it was just last night that his McLeod- and Stewart-sept email was opened.
Remember, Leslies were founders of Lusatia, and that is part of the Silesia theater, the place to which Sulcis must trace fundamentally via the Piast poles (the Robin motto uses "Vivit Post."
In the McLeod list of septs, find the Teague/Tige surname and see how "Tish" must be a variation of that clan, for this surname was dealt with in the 4th update of November. It's saw-like chevron was linked to the saw symbol of Perdix, and at that time I showed the same saw-like bar of the English Stewart Coat. This Stewart Coat uses the Venus-surname stag, suggesting that Alans of Dol were linked to the Veneti of Brittany. A similar stag is used in the SulliVAN Coat, the latter surname traced to the Veneti just yesterday, and especially to the Silis/Sile river of Venetia.
AGAIN, the Alans of Dol moved to SALop, and when in Scotland, they merged royally with the Bruces, who I trace to the Abreus first found in Padua of Venetia, near the Sile river. The Priest/Presley Coat has been discussed in the past as using the Abreu lion and castle.
This is a good place to re-mention that the Scottish Stewart Coat smacks of the Italian Massi/Mattis Coat, for the latter surname was first in Abruzzo (but later in Piedmont with the Mascis). I tried looking at a few D-versions of the Teague-like surnames on the McLeod page, and got to the Didge/Dagg/Deage Coat (McLeod/Stewart colors again), crescents in the colors of the Tuttle/Tuttal Shield (that uses crescents too). That led to the impression that Tuttles were Thistles and related Tishes/Tischels...meaning that I could now trace Tishes, Teagues, Thistles, Robins, Sullivans and kin to the Dido-branch Tyrians>Carthaginians, for that's where Tuttles should trace.
The Tuttle write-up suggests links to a "ketill" entity, and that's cause for a look at the Kettle Coat, which almost uses the Keith/Keath stag. Moreover, the Keage variation of the Teagues is shown in the McLeod list with Keedge, Keidge, and Keitch. This may suggest that the Keage variation did not develop from "Teague' only, but by their relationship with Keiths and/or Kettles (not forgetting the Chees/Cheatles of Cheshire).
The Stewart trace to Carthaginians should of course coincide with the Massey trace to Meshwesh, but as I traced Meschins also to Mali, so see what follows. I had traced Meschins to Minnie Mouse and other such ideas as Mickey Mouse, and while the Stewarts don't show the Minnie surname, they do use "Minney" (trefoils, seen last update page in the Oliver and Here/Garry clans). The Minney motto is, "Malo mori quan feodari," and its surnames are properly, Molloy, Mulloy, Miley, and Mulloy, which jibes with the shown Stewart sept of Malloy, Melloy, Miley, Milley, Mulee, Muley, and Mulloy. But in the midst of "Malloy" there are many Moloch-like surnames, such as Malach, Malack, Maleck, Malick, and Malyck. Carthaginians had a Moloch/Melqart cult, and these surnames may indicate that Mali was named after it.
The Minney/Malloy Coat uses a black greyhound in Crest, symbol (I think) of the north-African Graeae Amazons. The greyhound is on an oak tree, a symbol of the English Olivers; Scottish Olives use a black greyhound. I say that because the Kiny, Kynie and Kyny septs of Stewarts should link to the Kyne/Cyne surname (smacks of Ector) using two fat chevrons...just like Scottish Olivers! PLUS, the Kyne chevrons are in the color of the three fat chevrons of the French Levi Coat!!!
Those exclamation marks are for recently linking Olivers to Levis and the Laevi Gauls (France>Italy), and now to the Stewarts...that are suspect in other ways -- as of today -- for tracing to the Pharisees/Saducees. The Olivers above use black footless martins, the colors of the martin in the Priest Crest!
See the Oliver discussion in the previous update page.
THUS, the Stewarts appear to be "holy" because they trace to the Israeli priests, BUT the problem is, they trace to the dogs, the Pharisees and Sadducees, quite apparently, and truly if the Kay/Cai surname links to "Caiaphas." The Laeves were shown to live exactly where the Ananes Gauls lived (Po river at Novara), and that smacks of Ananias, father of Caiaphas.
I now have no doubt that this is the direction that God has been sending me lately with a dog-sniffer radar locked onto the Pharisees. It explains why Stewarts have been central to my dragon hunts, and probably why I said in the Iraq-Updates index page, "Watching for the Rise of Anti-Christ in Iraq (and in the meantime tracing world leaders to their Stewart-important bloodlines)"
There's more to add, but I'm out of time for today. In the news, Putin didn't take being called Batman too well, and is lashing out at what he sees as U.S. interference in world affairs.
We saw a few things about Stewarts yesterday. They were Kays/Mackays and from the Arthurian cult. Stewarts were from a priestly order of pseudo-Levites, and part of the Melusine line out of Avalon. Stewarts were Alan-related Nahorites, sone from north Africa, and before that were Chemmites in Egypt. .
Another of their septs are MURTrys, which reminds me of the code, "Le Morte de Arthur," a code for Avalon since Arthur died there. Moreover, Arthur was killed by his kin, MORDREd, which smacks of "MURTREy even more. If that's not enough, "Le Morte de Arthur" was written by Thomas Malory (Thomas was a favorite Vere name), while Stewart septs include Moloy and Muloy.
Entering "Murtry, which by the way smacks of the Moors, brings up the WerArthy Coat, seen yesterday. This is the surname first found on Bute=Avalon, and quite apparently related to Melusine of the Veres. The Coat uses the Myrrdin (= Merlin) symbol, the martin, and of course "Myrddin" smacks of "Murtry" too. Other variations shown at the Murtry/Werarthy page are Curdy, Kirdy, Curdie, and Quarti, smacking of Melqart/Melkart (child-sacrificing cult) of Carthage, jibing with the Malach and Malack septs shown in the Stewart list.
The Stewart sept of Lowis/Lowe brings up wolves (an old Stewart symbol) in a Coat like that of the Stubbs Coat (I maintain that Stubbs and Stubbings were Stewarts). Julie had mentioned that "Lewis" means wolf, albeit she read that in a Masonic publication. Apparently, the Lowes term got mixed up with "Lewis", for the Lowe/Lowes write-up tells that it meant "wolf" in old French. But then on the Lewis write-up it is said to mean "lew" = "lion."
The Lowe surname is said to be from (or at least include) "Lawrence," and that evoked the Laurie/Lawrie Coat with grail. The Laurie Crest has a tree stub, which is the write-up of the Stubbing Coat. The latter Coat uses the Say Shield, jibing with my trace of Stewarts yesterday to Sais on the Chemmite Nile. Says were first in Shropshire (where Alans>Stewarts were first found) .
The Saytons/Seatons, with their green dragon, should apply. As they were first in Lothian, I tend to regard "Seaton" as kin of the "Keath" surname (Seaton and Say colors). The Sayton write-up tells that they were "originally from Say near Exmes in Normandy". "Exmes" could be as per the Chimmy/Chimmie sept of the Stewarts, which works because that traces to Sais.
The contradiction where I might link "Keath" to "Seaton" and also to the Catti of Hesse can be solved if a theory I once posed is true. I suggested that "Sais" was ultimately named after "Esau," as per the Kaus variation of Edom's Kos cult. I envisioned that "Esau" was also "Esaus," then "Kaus," but also "Sais." On an independent line of postulation, I thought that Hesse may have been named after "Esau" elements. One could then assume that the Esau elements in Hesse merged with the Catti to produce the Catti after which Keaths are apparently named.
The Khimmie sept of the Stewarts brings up the same stag in Crest as per the Keath-Crest stag! AND, the Khimmie motto is the one using Sais-like "suis"!!! This is super evidence that Exmes was a Khimmie=Chemmite locale.
And, the Murtry/Werarthy/Quartie tree is a fir tree, the same as the tree in the Lothian-surname coat! Lothians were first found in Perthshire, where I trace Edomites. Lothians were also LOWdens, smacking of the Lows/Lowes. Kettles/Ketills use a Keath-like stag and were also first found in Perthshire.
As you may know, I trace "Lothian" to the Louis-like variations of "Clovis," and as "Clovis" has just been traced to the Cleod-like variations of the McLeods/MacClouds, see that McLeods have a Herod and several Herod-like septs, for the king Herods were Edomites. This is the Merovingian>Vere>Stewart holy grail: the Edomites and their Hyksos relatives. Again, note the Keish and Keitch variations of the McLeods. There is also a McLOWD sept, smacking of "Lowden."
Entering "Caitch," a sept of McLeods, brings up the Teague/Keague Coat (wolf in Crest), the motto of which uses "metuam." This brings us to Bavarian elements (which I link to Hesse) of the Stewarts, because Scottish Bowers (obviously related to German Bauers/Bowers) use an "Ad metam" motto phrase. The French Alan Coat use German-Bauer stars.
The point is, we saw yesterday that Stewarts were Olivers = Laevi-Galli "priests." The Scottish Oliver Coat (using the black Martins of the Murtrys) has an "Ad foedera" motto phrase, while the Stewart sept of Minney/Molloy uses "foedari." These terms smack of Bavaria's Fussen location, originally called, Foetes. Fussen was dissected (7th update October) and found to be a Ligurian locale of the sun god, Lug, and linked to the Manx peoples in the Isle of Mann...and therefore to the Masseys and Veres of Manche, who use Shields in colors reversed to the Says.
As Fussen is on the Bavarian border near Austria, and as Bauers were first in Austria but later in Bavaria (apparently they were named after Bayern=Bavaria), I would suggest that Bauers were in Fussen, and that their clans there were linked to Laevi Gauls, to the Murtry Arthurians (i.e. Mordred, Myrrdin) in Avalon/Bute, and to the Minnies/Molloys of Offaly, Ireland.
Offaly-surname Coat uses ravens, the symbol of the raven-depicted vikings (and of Bavarian Roths) that I identified both as Mackays and the proto-Stewarts of Dol (Brittany). Those vikings conquered (and perhaps named) Rothesay=Bute, which I think was home to proto-Rothschilds, and it just so happens that while Avalon was ruled by Morgan le Fay (a Myrddin/Merlin-related witch, we assume), Morgans are listed as septs of Mackays.
Again, Allans are listed as a sept of Mackays, meaning that Stewarts had been Mackays. But the English Allan Coat uses oak leaves, the symbol in the Oliver Crest (not forgetting that Olivers were also the Lief/Leaf surname). The Minney/Molloy Crest uses an oak tree (same tree as English Oliver Coat), wherefore these particular oak symbols are all related because the clans can be linked elsewise (don't you just love that old word?).
English Roths were first in Salop (where Alans>Stewarts went from Dol), and the English Roth Crest uses the lion in the Irish Kinnie Coat (green Shield like Scottish Bowers), important because (Mac)Kinnies are shown a sept of Stewarts. It's the same lion as in the MOUSquette Coat, that being an old topic that I linked to the mouse symbol of the Meschins. I had inclinations to identify the unknown anti-Christ with the Mousquette clan.
I had always viewed the Mousquette lion as a Stewart lion, and now I have the evidence. I had identified the mouse symbol of the Meschins as Muses, and years before that identified the nine witches of Avalon (ruled by Morgan le Fay) as code for the nine Muses of Greece. Muses were part of the Apollo wolf line, and the wolf was used in Meschin-land by Hugh D'Avranches Lupus, whom the Mackays are traced to. I identified "Avranches" as a variation of "Bernic(ian)," and therefore of "Varang(ian)." I now find that WerArthys/Murtrys were also "BerArthy" and that they were first on Bute.
Not only does Obama's Mother (a Dunham) trace to Dunham Massey of Hugh's Cheshire, and to the Randolphs of Moray (named after the line of Ranulf le Meschin, who married into Hugh's family), but his mother has been traced by others to the Wolflins>Wolfleys of southern Germany (i.e. near Fussen), who were the Wolfleys of Cheshire, I assume. The Dunhams (who use the English Randolph Coat because the two were merged) had been Singletarys, as you can verify in this Obama genealogy page at box 1536 (or use your Find feature to find "Singletary"). The Singletary Crest uses the same antelope as in the Mousquette Crest.
At box 24, one sees that Obama's great-great grandfather by the Dunham surname married a Kearney, and at box 100 one sees that Kearneys were from Offaly. The Kearney Coat uses the same lion treated in the 7th update of November (Find "FE's topic") as per the Vere elf/Melusine line that now rules/oversees much of Europe.
As per the Muscat variations of the Mousquettes, I've always suspected that Mascals apply (who are obviously a branch of Keaths). I now have the evidence, for the Mousquettes are said to have been lords of Haughleigh, while the Haugh Crest is the Mascal/Keath stag (and the Haugh chevron is in Keath colors). As per my (old) trace of both Keaths and raven-depicted Mackays to Cheshire's Hugh Lupus, I see that the Hough Crest uses the same wolf we've been seeing (e.g. the Lupus wolf), and was from a Hough location in Cheshire, suggesting that Houghs and Haughs were from "Hugh" Lupus.
The Houghs (in Offaly colors) are also Hoffs, smacking of "Offaly." The Offaly ravens/crows are called Cornish choughs, as if code for a branch of Houghs. There is a Chough Coat in Hough and Offaly colors. The Offaly Crest is a lion holding an olive branch, no doubt code for the Olivers/Laevis.
Therefore, when the Dunham line of Obama married the Kearneys of Offaly, they likely married into the Irish line of Hugh Lupus, which in Cheshire no doubt came to be linked my marriage to the Dunhams of the Dunham-Massey location that Hugh ruled. Note that the Offaly and CHough Crests both use lions holding something, and that the CHough lion is black, like the lion holding something in the Irish Kearn Crest. The Kearn Coat is white on green Shield, smacking of the Cheshire Wolfleys/Wollies.
Obama's German Wolflin>Wolfely line was near lake Constance, and so the Kearns motto includes "constrans." His great-6-grandfather was Johann Conrad Wolfley, born in Besigheim, Wuerttemberg. HIs gr-8 grandfather was Conrad Wolflin was mayor of Orsingen (in the Konstanz district). That's the Zahringer/Veringen antler in the Arms of Orsingen, which family produced Berne in Switzerland...and the Bernician=Avranches family in my opinion.
TheArms of Konstanz use white on blue fish. The Arms of Allensbach also uses the fish, and as Allensbach is in Konstanz, this city could be the French-Allen link to the Bauers. As we saw that Kinnies are a Stewart sept, so the Kinnie Crest uses a white fish, said to be a salmon.
Orsingen is near Fussen/Foetes, and so the Fidelow surname to which I traced Obama, which I thought was encoded with "fide/fidelus" motto terms, might actually link to "Foetes," and so see that the Kearn motto is, "Fidens et constans," as if to say, "Fussen and lake Constance." The Kearney motto, "Sustine et abstine," is like the Kearn motto as per its use of "et" to join two terms. I don't know what the Kearney terms could stand for, if anything, but Sais comes to mind, as does the Eppstein surname using a red triple chevron, the reverse of the Singletarys triple chevron. The Eppstein chevrons are fat, like the Levi and Oliver chevrons.
Lake Constance was also "Bodensee," and I did suggest a Bussen/Bessin alternative for "Fussen." Lake Constance is in Bavaria, Austria and Switzerland all at once, while Fussen is in Bavaria just three miles from the Austrian border. Fussen also went by "FoetiBus."
If this Boden(see) entity was Woden=Odin, then let me re-show the Odin Coat, the Kearney lion in colors reversed. AND, the Odin surname is traced (by me) to the Oettingens of Bavaria! German Otins were first in Bavaria and should apply. Note that Odins were lords of Holderness, and that Obama has a Holder surname as Attorney General. Eric Holder "was senior legal advisor to then-Senator Barack Obama during Obama's presidential campaign and one of three members of Obama's vice-presidential selection committee." Moreover, the Holder Coat is much like the English Randolph and Dunham Coat.
In the 3rd update of September, just before mention of the Dol Alans and the Hallen surname, I said, "Five bunched arrows [i.e. Rothschild symbol] are in the Crest of the English Dunham/Dowman (mentioned above)." I add that here because the Coat looks much like the Holder Coat (I found the quote just now because I was seeking the Helion topic as per the Hallions below).
Without going into it, the two Constance Coats look like Fertes and the Bellamys (of Ferte-Mace). As the Bellamy line has been traced recently to Seleucid elements from the Bellovesus and Segovesus Gauls (the latter brother went into Germany), the Irish Kearns/Karins (under discussion) may have been the German Kerns/Karens, first found in Silesia.
You may have read some days ago that I tentatively linked the heraldic tiger to the Tige/Teague surname, and so I should now mention that Irish Allens/Hallions use a tiger in Crest. They had a branch in Mayo, where Kearneys were first from, and Kearneys use pheons, as does the Helion/Helm Coat. The latter Coat uses a black-on-white diagonal bar, just like the Hough/Hoff Coat. I realized not many days ago that Allans of Dol were Helions, who I traced (in the 2nd update of November) to Hagarites/Edomites.
That discussion included the Heylin Coat, with yet another black lion (like the Choughs) in Crest, and in Hough colors. Heylins were from Hellion, Brittany, you see. While Heylins use black-on-white horse heads, the CHoughs use white-on-black unicorn heads. The Heylin surname was mentioned in the same paragraph with the Holden surname, the one using eagles called "allerions."
It left a mystery to find that the Tiger surname showed no Coat. As they were first in Suffolk, perhaps the Sigers/Seagers of Norfolk apply, I thought just now. Then I realized that the Keague variation of the Teagues could be explained by both versions developing from an original "Seage(r)" (i.e. a soft-c Seague makes for a hard-c Keague). Teagues/Keagues are listed as septs on white-on-blue McLeods, the colors of the Seagers. Entering "Teager" brings up the Teague/Keage Coat, with saw-like chevron. .
As Sages and Seagers were named after "saw," the Sawyers were likely Seager kin because both were first in Norfolk. Sawyers are also white on blue, and use a Stewart-like Coat (Sages also use checks). There is a Tawyer Coat with ravens in Sawyer-check colors. Sauers (from the Sau/Sava river) use the English Stewart lion, I figure.
The Teague motto uses "nec," and this could be code for the Neckar river, where Besigheim (a birthplace of Obama's Wolfley line). Besigheim is in Stuttgart (a Stewart/Stout-like term), where I know the Ferrari-branch Veres live(d). On the map at the above location, one can see Heilbronne smack beside Besigheim. In the update wherein I introduced the Heylin/Helion root of the Dol Alans, I said: "The salute, 'Heil Hitler,' sure does smack of 'Heylin,' and in fact the Heylin write-up says the surname is derived in 'Heilin.'"
Quite a while before that update, I traced Veres and Stewarts to the Brocken stump region of Germany and "Goeth's oak" stump was at the Buchenwald Nazi concentration camp. And so with that in mind, see the logs that I've just found in the Heil Coat! I suppose I neglected to enter that surname until now.
There are Goeth terms also in the Brocken article (not far from Buchenwald). I trace the Goeth/Goth Coat to the Hagar Coat and therefore I trace German Goeths/Goths (not necessarily the Gothic people, as a whole, anyway) to Ishmaelites/Edomites. English Brocks use the English Stewart red lion because the Brock motto is identical to the Scottish Stewart motto. The motto is in honor of Veres, quite apparently.
German Brocks use...tree stumps in Stubbs colors. The Stubbing surname was first in Essex, where the Brocks were first found. The Stubbing write-up: "The Stubbing family lived in Essex having derived from the Old English word stybbing, meaning stumps, and indicates that the original bearer lived in or near an area which had been cleared of trees." As neither Stubbs nor Stubbings nor Brocks are shown as Stewart septs, we can assume that they were Stewart ancestors.
The Brooks (in German-Brock and Stubbs colors) were also first found in Essex, and therefore help us to trace Brocks to Broc, in Anjou. The Brook Crest, a blue beaver, should therefore trace to the green Oxford beaver (in Arms of Oxford).
Let's not forget that the Irish Alan/Hallion Crest is a tiger, for that could support the Tige/Teague trace to Neckar, and it could also expose that other "nec" motto terms are code for that river. In the past, I've suggested that "nec" was code for Na(c)horites, and I've routinely traced Stewarts (without having any designs to do so) to Nahorites by many methods.
WOW, Unbelievable. At the start of this morning, I looked up the Friend Coat because I knew only one Teague in my life, whose maiden name was Friend. I looked up the Friend Coat but didn't mention it for lack of anything to say (though I noticed that it could be the Wayne Coat). But just now, while studying the motto of the tiger-using Alans/Hallions, I saw "friend" in the "praeFERENDa," term, and recalled that I had mentioned this in the past. But I had no idea then that it linked to Teagues, though the idea would have crossed my mind.
THEREFORE, it appears correct to identify the tiger as code for Teagues and their branches.
The Medley Crest is a tiger too, and it uses "fides" for a motto term, perhaps code for Fussen/Foetes." I had linked Medleys to Mabees, not just because the latter also use a tiger, and so NOW LOOK at how Teagues can again be traced to Seagers/Sawyers. The Mabees were first in Kirkcudbrightshire of Wigton (Galloway), and the Sauers (from the Sau/Sava/Save river) are said in their write-up to be from the Galleri surname. When entering "Gallery," we find the write-up telling that they were first in Kirkcudbrightshire!!
There's more. The Gallery motto, "Higher," suggests the High surname with Hyee and Heye variations smacking of the Hagee surname (cat for a Crest, and "Touch not the cat" as a motto phrase). This goes right down the same path as per the HEYlin trace (2nd update November) to Hagee-like terms. The Hagee page show a Caigy variation, like the "Caig" and "Kaig" of the Teagues/Keagues!
There's more. I recalled that there was another surname using "Touch not the cat," and I mistakenly thought it was the Chattan surname, but seeing that Coat just now, I saw a motto with translation, "A FRIEND to everyone"! (a good lesson here is that some mottos have codes when translated to English). The Chattan Coat used the Save Shield!!
With this trace of Teagues to the Neckar river, I can add that the Friend Coat smacks of the Wolfin Coat. Although the term no 'l' as in Obama's Wolflin line, the Wolfin Coat is like the Randolph/Rother Coat of Moray, and in the colors of the Scottish Randolphs. The Wolfin Shield is just like the Rodham Coat, the latter using a tree stump in Crest. Whose ruling the United States at this time? The Nazi-branch Stewarts, that's who. Phony Israelites with a phony holy grail filled with Edomite dragon blood.
ZOWIE, I've just noticed: the Rodham motto uses "nec"!!!
It was the Wolfin Coat that tipped me off to the Fidelow ancestry of Obama. For as Wolfins use "gward," I checked the Guard surname to find the Irish Gard Coat with the same wolf as per the Wolfley Coat. English Gards/ Guards use the footless martins seen in the Singletary Coat, and a "fidele" motto term that led to entering "Fiddle" and finding the Fidelow Coat...with wolf heads.
BUT NOW, the Guard motto, "Toujours fidele," smacks of "tiger" and therefore "Teague."
The two symbols of the High Coat are used by the English Morrit/Merit Coat, and it's therefore interesting that I traced the latter to EasKIRCHen (not far from the Neckar), for it might explain "KIRKcudbright(shire)." After all, the "Higher" motto belongs to Gallerys of Kirkcudbrightshire. But a black-on-white cross is used also by the city of Constance. I traced Constance to Cottians , some of them (e.g. the Cotes/Cotts) in Languedoc, where the French Constance surname was first found.
Entering "Besick" as per "Besigheim," we find the Bisset Coat with tree stump (the Rodham stump, I think, but with oak leaves as code for revival) and the Save or Chattan Shield. The latter surname in the Besigheim theater is important because the area is just south of Hesse. Bissets were Bassets (Drummond waves), and were Drummonds of the wave-using Damory branch (Oxfordshire), which is just great because I linked Damorys/DaMarys to the Magdalene cult French Merits/Merreys/Demerys.
If it appears correct to trace Besigheim to Bissets and Bassets, then I'd make the trace to the Beckets and the Bessin, and, to make a long story short, to the Buxsted of the tiger-using Medleys ("fides" motto term), and to the Buckingham/Beckinghams of Oxfordshire. The Buchenham and Bockingham variations smack of the Brocken (also called "Bocksberg"; no 'r'), and Buchenwald. The Buckingham lion is red, like the Brock lion.
I had traced the Magdalene cult to the Merits/Merreys and to the Dallens, who use a red lion. Therefore the Magdalene cult leads back to the witchcraft of the Brocken region.
ZOWIE. I had mentioned the Block surname in the last update page, and the heraldic blocks, but now I can add that the Brocken is also called, Blocksberg," wherefore the tree stump in the English Block Coat must apply! Not only does it apply, but it clinches the heraldic-stump trace to the Brocken.
So where are pagans of the last days?
"With United Nations climate negotiators facing an uphill battle to advance their goal of reducing emissions linked to global warming, it's no surprise that the woman steering the talks appealed to a Mayan goddess Monday.
Christiana Figueres, executive secretary of the U.N. Framework Convention on Climate Change, invoked the ancient jaguar goddess Ixchel in her opening statement to delegates gathered in Cancun, Mexico..."
When is Iraq going to explode? World leaders are at this time confident that a peaceful transition of power has been achieved. The American military must be all but vacated from Iraq in about six months, and the explosive elements might be waiting for that time. As it stood even before WikiLeaks, the Iraqi leader had some bones to pick with the O-dministration, and was distancing himself from Obama with a mindset like that of the Iranian leader, who tells the Middle East regularly that Westerners are self-interested Zionist globalists of the global-government kind. With that, we and Iran have some commonality. But Wikileaks is making things harder for the globe trodders:
"Private conversations between Sunni Arab leaders in the Middle East and U.S. diplomats, leaked in confidential State Department documents this week, may push Iraq's future Shiite-led government closer to Iran, analysts said.
...The first few hundred cables leaked by the WikiLeaks Web site could further damage Shiite incumbent Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki's weak relationship with Arab neighbors...
The cables show candid moments over the past two years in which, among other things, the king of Saudi Arabia called Maliki an 'Iranian agent' and a 'liar'..."
We will have to see how the West reacts to keep Iraq from going over to Iran further than it already has. The West has to be on it's best behavior to succeed businesswise in Iraq's oil sector, for powerful men in Iraq can block the hopes of companies wishing to enter in.
Tim had sent in an article telling how the year could have been 360 days long while a lunar month was simultaneously 30 days, which in my mind is evidence of a Creation by a Creator. I'm ignoring everything else that the author says in the article but the section on this topic. He says:
"The earth is orbiting the sun at 29.79 km/s (kilometers per second) and has been doing so for many thousands of years. This constant speed of 29.79 km/s means that to make one orbit of the sun (one complete circle) will take 365.2422 days. If we speed up the orbit of the earth to 30.22379 km/s we would end up with a year that is 360 days long.
...The difference in speed between 365.2422 days per year and 360 days per year is equal to 20.9688 minutes per day...it would take the earth 20.9688 minutes less time per day to travel that same distance in the orbit around the sun.
......if the earth had a year of 360 days per year...the moon would now automatically have a 30 day lunar month without changing the speed of the orbit of the moon!
...The moon is still making one complete orbit (circle) in 27.3 days, but to line up with the earth and sun to become a full moon again it takes 29.531 days."
I've done moon research so that I understand what he means at the last sentence, but you may not. In short, he means that the moon, starting from a full moon position, must first orbit once around the earth, and then an additional 2.23 days to become a full moon again...because the earth simultaneously moves around the sun. He goes on to say that a lunar month becomes 29.9679 days long when the earth travels at the faster velocity resulting in a 360-day orbit. .
If you can't follow his math/method, I have another method to verify his numbers. My first step is like so: 29.531 x 20.9688 min = additional length of time from full moon to full moon when the earth travels at the faster velocity of 30.22 km/s. The additional time works out to 619.23 minutes, or .43 days.
That means that a solar month would become 29.531 + .43 = 29.961 days, which is a little less than his figure of 29.978. But I haven't done the second step, which is to add an additional length of time on behalf of the .43 days. That is, the math above only accounts for the first 29.53 days, but not the additional .43 of a day. The earth is moving faster over that .43 day too.
Do the same math: .43 x 20.9688. That gets us 9.0166 minutes, or .00626 of a day. We now add the latter figure to the 29.961, bringing the lunar month up to 29.9673. We could do a third step on behalf of the .00626 day and bring the total up a tiny notch to square even better with his figure of 29.9678. In short, I think his math is correct.
And it would be correct no matter what the actual velocity of the earth is around the sun, for what matters is the difference between the two velocities. That difference is what nets the 20.9688 minutes-per-day figure.
To explain why the earth slowed down over the centuries while the moon did not, I have a good theory (having not to do with his reason). The earth moves through the solar wind, defined as particles with mass streaming outward from the sun. That causes friction, slowing the planet down. The moon too moves through the solar wind, but not like the earth. The earth never goes into the wind, or with the wind, but is always perpendicular (i.e. 90 degrees). The moon goes into the wind for half of it's orbit, where friction slows it down some, but then it goes with the wind for the other half, and of course the moon now picks up some speed, as much as it lost in the first half.
Yes, in another way, the moon does move perpendicular into the solar wind, as the moon is forced around the sun with the earth. The moon moves around the sun at a velocity of some 30 times that of its orbit around the earth. BUT, when the moon is in its half-orbit that is furthest from the sun, it hits the solar wind with its "front" side, wherefore the moon slows down some. THEN, the moon moves in the opposite direction for the other half-orbit (when its closest to the sun), wherefore the "back" side of the moon now strikes the solar wind, having the effect of speeding the moon's orbit velocity.
So, every part of the lunar orbit that provides loss of velocity has roughly an equal counter-measure pushing the moon along faster. I say "roughly equal" because it's not perfectly equal. There is to be expected a small net loss in lunar-orbit velocity because the moon moves about 1,000 mph around the earth, meaning that, in combination with its velocity around the sun, it moves 2,000 mph faster into the solar wind when striking it with it's front side, as opposed to when its moving 1,000 mph in the opposite direction (when the wind strikes it on its back side).
I don't mind making the above statement even though it makes the figure above, 29.969 days per lunar orbit, a little less, and therefore further off the 30-days mark. There is still the question of whether the earth's rotation has slowed over time, and if so, the day would have been shorter in the past, which in turn would raise the 29.969 figure above.
If you're a non-believer and want to know whether God exists, you'll peruse this math until you understand it. It really is proof of a Creator. And you'll ask why the lunar situation discussed below is as it is.
Solar-wind particles will act to slow rotation as they strike one side of the planet/moon, but then act to accelerate rotation as they strike the other half. However, the wind also strikes dead-on, and that's where it could possibly slow the rotation.
If the earth's rotation has slowed by solar-wind friction, so too the moons rotation.
We always see the same side of the moon even though it spins on its axis. This is because the moon spins on its axis exactly once per one lunar orbit. If the moon were spinning the other way, we could watch the moon revolve in two full rotations each month.
How did this "coincidence" come about? A full circle has 360 degrees, and each degree is rather small. If the moon's rotation was off by merely a tenth of a degree -- say 359.9 degrees of rotation per one perfect lunar orbit around the earth -- then the moon would spin once around after 3, 600 months (.1 x 360 degrees = 3,600), or 300 years. In that time frame, the moon would begin to show some of the "dark side" in less than one lifetime.
But the face of the moon is always the same, meaning that its spin is not off by even one tenth of a degree when compared to its 360-degree orbit. There is no gravity-related explanation for this "coincidence." And this marvel can be superimposed on the 360-30 math that was done above, making for 12 perfect months per year.
I've never read of ancient artwork or lunar descriptions suggesting that the lunar face has looked different than does today. BUT if the lunar orbit has been slowing over time, then man would be seeing a different face today than in the ancient past... unless the lunar spin has been simultaneously slowing at a relative rate.
The Spirit of God comes down upon the one who truly wants Him. The Spirit is like an embodiment of understanding and wisdom, and the very Presence in our lives from time to time gives peace while we live out trials and difficulties. Affirmation of God's love for us by the indwelling Spirit gives solid hope for overcoming the sting of death. The Spirit is much more, and one must experience Him to know. My only regret is that we get but small tastes of Him now.
An email was opened last night from FE, who found the very same salamander-in-flames used by the Sagans, in the Polish Slabaugh Coat. She was working off the slab topic that I came to in the 7th update of November, where I had said:
There is a paganish Siemens/Siemsen surname of Germany that could apply. It uses a "slab," but there is no Slab surname that comes up."
Very apparently, it was as simple Direction from Above that I should have identified "Salop" with "Slab."...The Salop link to the Siemowit entity of the Piasts is easily proved where both the Samson and Meschin Coats use white scallops on black.
Certainly, we now have a Slab surname in Poland, but variations show a "Slovo(bek)," which supports a "Salop" equation with "Slab=Slav." But FE's find also tends to trace Sagans to the Siemowit entity among Piast royals. And that works because a shown variation of German Sagans is "SaganSKI." It was first found in Prussia, where the Mieske surname was first found.
German Sages/Seagers use ostrich feathers in Crest, a symbol of the Trabys, the latter known to be from Radziwills. The Slabough write-up: "First found in Slepowron in Polesie, the largest province of Poland. It is inhabited by Ruthenians, called Polesians, of Ukrainian descent...It was in this province that the renowned Radziwills and Sapiehas held their vast estates. " Ruthenians? Weren't they in France? Yes, and I trace them to the Redones, who formed Varangians, and Varangians conquered Kiev...in the Ukraine.
Quite obviously, the Slabaugh/Slaboda clan either named, or were named after, Slepowron, a very 'Salop-like term. This is very good for tracing Meschins, Talbots, Stewarts, and Bellamys to the very part of Poland stacked with Radziwills/Trabys. We saw that Trabys were Trojans when I was investigating salamander roots (6th update November), and that Teagues, who appear as Seagers, were from Tokers-et-al, tracing to mythical Teucer (Trojan patriarch), founder of salamander-like Salamis, and having a salamander-like father, Scamander.
It was therefore surprising, to that end, that entering "Baugh" led right into the sort of Toke/Doke surnames that were just dealt with again recently. It's very hard to say at first whether the Welsh Baugh surname, also "Bach" and "Bagh," links to "Slaboughu," for the suffix on the latter is more likely "ough." But then I did trace Trabys to Wales, and even to the ostrich-feathered Tudors, said to be from Tudor TREVor.
That Tudor helmet could be a version of the Pendragon helmet, for not only did trace aspects of the Arthurian cult to Lusatia/Poland/Silesia, but as I linked the cult fundamentally to the Waynes, the Tudors use a Shield like the Wayne Shield. Perhaps it's a coincidence, but the white-on-red of the Tudors and Waynes is used by the Welsh Baugh/Bagh Coat.
What's more, the Baugh symbol, blue and white bell pattern, is used by the Kemmis Coat treated just days ago. If that's not enough, the Clap Coat uses the same bell pattern in red and white, the other colors of the Kemmis Coat. Not only did I trace "Clapton" to "Salop," but Claps were first in Surrey, where I had traced a red on white Traby/Sadowksi clan by a Sark-like Polish surname smacking of the Surrey/Sark surname, and Surreys were then, very recently, traced to Trojans/Thracians with the Tokers and Teagues et-al.
The Slomski variation of the Slabaughs suggests that the surname was an m-to-b switch. That is, the name was originally from the Slom (or Slam) term, because that makes for a logical trace to Teucer's "Salamis" elements. In that picture, Slavs were from Salamis elements. It doesn't necessarily contradict my trace of "Slav/Slab" to "Halybe" because I trace Halybes to Helios of Rhodes, where Telchines lived, who I think were from Tel-terms (i.e. Deylamites>Solymi) such as Telemon, founder of Grecian Salamis.
The Siemens Coat uses the so-called "slab," and the Crest includes "elephant trunks," seen days ago in the Tish Crest. The Tish surname was seen to be a McLeod sept and listed among Teague and similar surnames...so as to be likely a Teague/Seager variation. Although Teagues were traced as far east as the Neckar river in Germany, the Tishes were first found further east, in Silesia.
After coming to the Tish Coat again, I recalled the theory that Teagues had been Seagers, and so I entered "Sish" to see if there were visible links to Tishes. And there were the griffin heads used by the Tokes/Touques/Tolkiens!! As you can see, the Touques Coat compares with the Teague Coat, and the latter's saw-like symbol compares with the Toker Coat.
The Sish surname, properly Siston/Sisson, was first in Gloucestershire, where the Kemmis surname was first found, meaning that the clan may has been named after Sais elements (Nile delta). The write-up: "In this survey the village of Siston was held by Roger de Berkeley." Sis-town, you see. I then entered the Berkeley (Baugh and Wayne-like Shield) term to find patee crosses, the type of cross used by Claptons. They too were first found in Gloucestershire.
See "Sisak" on the Illyrian-Celt map on the river that I think is the Sava, where I've suspected the Ixion-based Hyksos to have been. There are a few Surrey-like peoples in that neck of the woods. I remind you that pharaoh Khyan was also called, Apachnas, a term that I traced to Bag/Bach/Bacon-like surnames including the Baugh/Bach/Bagh surname under discussion.
It's a little interesting that Medleys (in Teague colors), who use a tiger that I link to Teagues, were first in SUSSex.
As per my trace of "Teague" to Sagans, I tried entering "Tagan" and got the Deacon/Deaken Coat. Then "Dagan" entered my head and that brought up the near-same Coat and Crest. If you want an example of off-the-wall derivations that are likely false, read that the Deacons are traced to "deacon" while the Dagans are traced to "David." Both those derivations can't be correct, and perhaps neither are.
The Crest of both use a hand holding a battle axe, which is also used by the Tokers. I don't think that Tokers and Tagans/Dagans were named after the same thing exactly, though I trace them both to the same Creto-Trojans. The Dagans are properly Deakin/Daikin/Dayken, and as such they look like mythical Dia (Ixion's wife,) and the DaeDALUS cult.
I had traced the Dia>Daedalus cult to the Dees (use "Hic labor" for a motto), but also to the Days (Save snake): "The name Day originally appeared in Gaelic as O Deaghaidh or O Diaghaidh." that gets us very close to "Deakin." English Days are said to be from "David," and once again I do not accept that. Instead, I traced this particular "David" entity to the Save/Sava river, and identified them as the Dia/Daedalus cult there.
After seeing the Dagan/Deakin Coat, "Deak" was entered to find the Scottish Dykes from a Dutton location. Not only do I view Duttons (from Cheshire, where Dees were first found) as Dudleys">Dudleys, whose use a salamander in flames, but I trace them to the Dido line of Daedalus.
It's Deacon and Deakin conspicuous that German Dykes are properly, DICKENhausen. That brought the Dickenson surname to mind, using the blue Dudley lion, no doubt.
Dickensons look related to the Dicks (i.e. comparable Coats), and Dutch Dicks/Dykensteins are interesting for their swans, in the colors of the Swan/Sion surname.
The cinquefoils of the Deaks could link to the same of the Doaks/Dogs, who once again use a Shield like that of Baughs/Bachs.
The next thing I did was to view the Teague Coat again, and upon reading its write-up, "The original Gaelic form of Teague was Mac Taidh or O Taidhg," I entered "Taid" to find, -- zowie -- the Dade/David/Dade Coat, a surname once again said to be from "David." It was this very surname that I traced to the Sava because, as Tim showed, the Daid/David Coat is also the DOCHarty Coat (which surname was traced to Sava-river Savages/SAVIDges).
My impression is that the Dia>Daedalus cult became Daid/Dava-like, and as a result named the Sava out from which SAVIDges/SAVAges came forth. But I cannot trace "Teague" to both the same Taid/Daid term and to "Teucer." Possibly, Teagues did not derive from "Taid," as stated in the write-up, but rather merged with them.
It was amazing to see the Dade and Doherty surnames pop up just after viewing the Doak/Dog Coat, for a Doherty variation is "DOGherty." It now seems certain that Teagues (use a wolf) were from the Sava-river clans where (heart-using) Rus-based Savages and related Perdix/Talos clans had been traced. The whole thing reminded me of the Stewart- and Massi-like MurDOCK Coat, using ravens that depict the MacKay>Stewart line of Rus. Then I entered "Dock," to find not only the Doak/Dog Coat coming up, but the English Dox/Docks Coat, using the same blue-on-gold lion used by Dudleys and related Massins/Masons.
The following article could be the beast's method of keeping trib survivors from growing and sharing foods. Or, it may be intended to keep all people in general from living off the land, for when people grow their own foods, there are no taxes made from purchased foods. Think whatever you will of the following statement, but I think chemicals have been put into our foods to make us sick deliberately, as favors to the medical industry, and/or to reduce our lifespan now that people are living longer (governments lose much tax revenue to retirees). To control world population without war, perhaps the best method is to add things to our food. There are evil rulers who think along these lines, who view the masses as potential burdens on the system.
Yesterday's trace of Teagues to the Neckar river was exceptional for explaining why Obama and Hillary both ran for top-dog of the Democrat party. The Neckar is where Besigheim is located, the birthplace of Obama's great-6-grandfather, with Wolflin/Wolfley surname. The trace was made as per the two "nec" motto terms of the Teagues, and then I bumped into the "nec" of the Rodam/Rodham Coat. I neglected to share that, on this map of the Neckar, we see Rottenburg and Rottwell. We also see a villa named after the swan. I had traced the Stuttgart location to the proto-Stout/Stow surname that used ravens i.e. these were (says me, anyway) the proto-Stewart Rus of Shetland and Rothesay.
And don't forget from yesterday that the Rother/Ruth/Randolph Coat is a virtual match with the Rodham and Wolfin Coats. The point is, the Neckar appears to be Illuminati-important. As I tended to link Heilbronne (on the Neckar) to Alan>Stewart>Nazi elements, so see the location of Heidelberg, for it smacks of the Hiedler/Hitler surname, and the related Heidel surname.
There is a Neckar surname after the river, though the surname was first found in Bavaria. One of the variations (Neckelere) suggests links to the same-colored English Nichols/Nickels, who use a raven! The Nichols motto uses "Fide," and the Fiddes surname smacks of Bavaria's Fussen/Foetes location, where the Ligurian swan line lived that was traced to the Isle of Mann. The Mannheim location on the Neckar is therefore conspicuous in this regard.
The Fiddes write-up shows Fotheis, Fudes, Futhes, Fothes, and Fette. It smacks of Elmer Fudd, who I traced in-part to the Elmer/Aylmer surname (Kay bird in Crest), the Coat of whom is in Necker and Nichols colors...and likewise using ravens! I think that "AYLmer" should link to Alans>Stewarts of the Neckar because the latter were traced to Helions and Heylins.
Heylins are said to be from Heilen," and it was this surname that I just traced to Heilbronne on the Neckar. Moreover, the Heylin Coat is not only in the same black-on-white colors, but uses a black horse, symbol of the Arms of Stuttgart.
It seems to me that the Neckar is Nahorite/Hagarite haven. As per the Plochingen location on that river, I thought that the Plocks/Plucketts (uses blocks), who I link to Blocks and Pollocks, could apply, and there in the Plock motto was "fide"! The motto is, "In deo fide," smacking of the "In deo fides" of the Medleys (with tiger, and again in the same black-on-white colors). (German Blocks use a tree stump like Rodhams,
As that tends to trace Medleys to the Ligurians of Fussen, so I did trace the "ley/leigh/lee" endings of the surname to Ligurians.
When I saw the roses on blue background of the Blocks (these are in a Coat above, can't recall which), it reminded me of the German Bode/Boden Coat. Then I saw that the Block bird is exactly the bird of the English Bode/Bodin Coat. I recall that this bird is used by NAUGHtons/NACHtons!! I identified them both as Nahorites and Buzites, but now it appears that "Naughton" traces to the "Neckar" as well.
The Bode surname has been on my mind from the start of today's update, because of wondering whether it links to "SlaBODA." We can wonder further whether slab and block symbols are somehow related. As per the Slomski variation, there is a Scottish Slom surname listed with the Slones/Sloans (its Slowan variation could also be "Sloban"). Slones were first in Kirkcudbrightshire, and if you search that term in yesterday's update, you'll see the topic is all about Teagues and "nec" as well as Sava-river clans leading to Obama.
The Slones are said to be of DalKeith in Lothian (see LUDwigsburg on the Neckar because Lothian is traced by myth to a Lot), where Keiths live(d). The DALkeith Coat not only smacks of the French TALbot Coat, but the English Talbot Coat is the same red-on-white lion of the Slone/Slom Coat.
The Slone term brought to mind "Salone," and entering it, zowie, the Salemen Coat came up...the surname of which was traced to "salamis" and therefore to the salamander bloodline. Therefore, Slones/Sloms could indeed link to salamander-using Slomskis/Slabodas.
"Salome" also comes to mind, which brings up a German surname using the Scottish Pike stars in Pike colors, this being possibly Slaboda-important because the Claps use a pike in their Crest.
PS -- I just saw Nurtingen on the Neckar, and it smacks of the Norton variation of the Naughtons!!
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