It dawned on me that the search engines were giving some groups the power to change images after we download them onto our computers. It's no different than having two connected computers in two different rooms, with one going into the other to command the modification of a certain picture. The same can be done to all computers in the Internet world with a universal command. It's dangerous for any group to be doing this, but it's also dangerous to get caught playing false-flag hoaxes on the world.On a page featuring Jim Stone (topic two updates ago), I discovered that it can get even worse when the fakers wish to play games with those seeking to expose them: "Whoever controls the internet is swapping out screen captures I have posted with alternative images that have completely different file names and are not even on my server. I cannot stop this from happening..." I think that means that the goons can block a link of my photo from getting the reader the intended image from my server, and getting it from their server instead, with a modified picture that doesn't have the damning material that my picture does. But in order to do this, they need to have access to my server. If I have described pictures that do not seem to you to match the description, this tampering could be happening to my pages too. Consider letting me know if you suspect this.
Some of the latest from Mr. Stone comes out on July 30 in the page below (regularly updated, so it changes with time). On this page, I am reading that Stone denies the missiles from Hamas, and tends to go with the stories circulated by the Arabs to make Israel appear as child killers. Mr. Stone is quick to point out fake jobs from Israeli but seems to be oblivious to the disinformation from Arabs. If Hamas was not shooting any missiles, it would be obvious to all, and Hamas would be telling all the nations that they were not shooting missiles, and this would have come to light many years ago. So, you need to watch it when Stone jumps to some conclusions. Hamas does deny shooting missiles at times, but at times admits / promises / threatens it.
On his claim that suicide bombings in Iraq were tricks of the Americans, I can agree. The same thought crossed my mind, and Mr. Stone gives a few examples of how the Americans sent ordinary Iraqis to police stations after secretly loading their vehicles with explosives. Let me quote it because I think it's prophetically important to point out murderous deception and false imagery. If you don't want to see a badly-beaten dead body, don't go to this page:
During the Iraq war, the American soldiers were pulling over drivers, impounding their cars, and when the cars were returned the drivers were instructed to go to the police station to pay the fine. During the time the Army had the cars, they would pack them full of explosives and then detonate these explosives when the driver arrived at the police station. You may remember that during the Iraq war, there were tons of "suicide bombings" at police stations. THIS was the reason.But it failed a couple times, and the Army got caught.
1. On May 13, 2005, a 64 year old Iraqi farmer, Haj Haidar Abu Sijjad, took his tomato load in his pickup truck from Hilla to Baghdad , accompanied by Ali, his 11 years old grandson. They were stopped at an American check point and were asked to dismount. An American soldier climbed on the back of the pickup truck, followed by another a few minutes later, and thoroughly inspected the tomato filled plastic containers for about 10 minutes. Haj Haidar and his grandson were then allowed to proceed to Baghdad.
A minute later, his grandson told him that he saw one of the American soldiers putting a grey melon size object in the back among the tomato containers. The Haj immediately slammed on the brakes and stopped the car at the side of the road, at a relatively far distance from the check point. He found a time bomb with the clock ticking tucked among his tomatoes. He immediately recognized it, as he was an ex-army soldier. Panicking, he grabbed his grandson and ran away from the car. Then, realizing that the car was his only means of work, he went back, took the bomb and carried it in fear. He threw it in a deep ditch by the side of the road that was dug by Iraqi soldiers in preparation for the war, two years ago.
Upon returning from Baghdad , he found out that the bomb had indeed exploded, killing three sheep and injuring their shepherd in his head. He thanked God for giving him the courage to go back and remove the bomb, and for the luck in that the American soldiers did not notice his sudden stop at a distance and his getting rid of the bomb.
"They intended it to explode in Baghdad and claim that it is the work of the 'terrorists', or 'insurgents' or who call themselves the 'Resistance'.
2. An American manned check point confiscated the driver license of a driver and told him to report to an American military camp near Baghdad airport for interrogation and in order to retrieve his license. The next day, the driver did visit the camp and he was allowed in the camp with his car. He was admitted to a room for an interrogation that lasted half an hour. At the end of the session, the American interrogator told him: "OK, there is nothing against you, but you do know that Iraq is now sovereign and is in charge of its own affairs. We have forwarded your papers and license to al-Kadhimia police station for processing. Go there with this clearance to reclaim your license. At the police station, ask for Lt. Hussain Mohammed, who is waiting for you now. Go there now quickly, before he leaves his shift work".
The driver did leave in a hurry, but was soon alarmed with a feeling that his car was driving as if carrying a heavy load, and he also became suspicious of a low flying helicopter that kept hovering overhead, as if trailing him. He stopped the car and inspected it carefully. He found nearly 100 kilograms of explosives hidden under the back seat and along the two back doors.
The only feasible explanation for this incident is that the car was indeed booby trapped by the Americans and intended for the al-Khadimiya Shiite district of Baghdad. The helicopter was monitoring his movement and witnessing the anticipated "hideous attack by foreign elements".
3. The same scenario was repeated in Mosul , in the north of Iraq . A car was confiscated along with the driver's license. He did follow up on the matter and finally reclaimed his car but was told to go to a police station to reclaim his license. Fortunately for him, the car broke down on the way to the police station. The inspecting car mechanic discovered that the spare tire was fully laden with explosives.
Mr. Stone does not give references for these stories, but they have the ring of truth to me. They are certainly more credible than the idea of a never-ending list of Arab suicide bombers that include teens, such an unnatural thing.
I'm asking you to think up the reason that the Americans would do such heartless, murderous acts. There can only be one reason: to divide and conquer Iraq. In that scenario, using terrorists for the purpose seems a natural extension of the job at hand. And this plays into my belief that the U.S. is now using ISIS and similar others as much as it can for the continued dividing of Iraq. It was all good and fine when ISIS attacked the Iraqis, no American intervention needed to save Shi'ites from death and maiming, but as soon as ISIS turned its guns on the Kurds, Obama came out with a "good reason" to conduct American airstrikes on ISIS. For me, that's evidence that the Americans have been using the Sunni to pave a new future for the Kurds. There is a deal in the works.
At the same page (on July 30), Mr. Stone discusses the Reuters image of the debris piece that was changed after his report hit the Internet. Reuters showed the piece with a white cover over a certain window, and then showed the debris piece without the cover after Jim released his story with the cover on. The Stone page tells us further that Fox News has an image with the cover on, and without a hole or dark spot under the flag that comes with Reuters doctored image.
Remember, this is just a piece of debris on the grass; there is no reason for anyone to remove this cover from the glass (probably not easy to do), and it is unlikely that Reuters, after having an image of this piece to begin with, with the cover on, would re-photograph the same piece several days later, opting to circulate that image in the news instead, unless asked to do so by the goons who set this fakery up in the first place.
I discussed this two updates ago. On the first day of discussion, I failed to see that the flight-370 plane (the one that supposedly crashed in the Indian ocean) had this white cover on. The next morning, while adding to the story, I saw this cover at the last moment. It can now be understood why Jim Stone is so adamant that the plane in the Ukraine was the one that was hijacked from Malaysia. HOWEVER, it is too possible that other planes had the white cover over this particular window. In a close-up of the image below, one can see the white cover between the door and the first window to our right of the door.
http://www.tribwatch.com/photos/ukraineFlagLine370.jpgThe picture above is known to be of the plane that supposedly crashed in the Indian ocean (the photo was taken before the disaster). When Stone made light of this, you can imagine the goons making a decision to show the Ukraine plane with the cover off. Stone argues that this decision is evidence of guilt. I agree.
What I don't understand is Jim's assertion (page above) that the media is trying to persuade people that the plane in the Ukraine (flight 17) is NOT a 777. Perhaps he's speaking only to alternative-news sites that point out how certain pieces, especially one engine, are not large enough to be from a 777, but the main media are all in agreement, so far as I've understood, that flight 17 was a 777.
What Jim has not mentioned, and what he seems to be missing, is that the debris fields were faked by planted "evidence," which can explain why various pieces are not from a 777. He would not take this position because he is sure that this plane was the Malaysia plane flown and crashed for real, no planted pieces. But in that case, we would expect the human bodies, even if dead to begin with, to be cut in half, etc, but the reports have been that the bodies are in very good condition (forgive the language for the sake of making the point).
It is possible that pieces of the Malaysia plane (flight 370) were dropped from the sky, and yet it seemed obvious that some plane parts / pieces were planted in debris fields smack beside roads. But Stone's finding was that this particular debris piece under discussion had THE WRONG FLAG matching that of flight 370. All arguments concerning the white cover can be disregarded, but this flag evidence yet remains the smoking gun.
I argued that flight 370 did crash, in the gulf of Thailand, and that the Americans may have scooped up the debris with use of special submarine craft before anyone could find it. It seemed obvious that Obama badly wanted all search parties out of the gulf of Thailand (where everyone thought the plane crashed at first), and into the ocean instead. Therefore, the pieces could have been used in the Ukraine. We don't imagine that the Ukrainians conducting the flight-370 incident. Instead, the Americans did both.
Mr. Stone has delivered to us a claim that the painted flag on the debris piece with a white cover is exactly the painted flag on the flight-370 plane before it crashed. His claim looks accurate. When planes are painted, it's not necessary to get each and every flag on various planes in the same spot exactly, nor to design the flag in the same way exactly. As Jim showed, the flag for the flight-17 plane is not the same design as the flag on the debris piece, which alone proves that flight 17 is a false-flag event. The fact that the major media are not picking up on this flag problem is evidence that the media are in enforced or willing (take your pick) cahoots with the fakers. If any media wants to claim a false-flag event and blame it on the U.S. military, that is one big nasty beast to try to take on. The military has zero aversion to killing people, anywhere, anytime, anyhow, anywho.
In the set of images below, the debris piece is to the far left. I believe that these images were put out by Mr. Stone himself, to show that the 370 plane had no extra window to the right of the door. I do not know whether he failed to see the white covers on that extra window. In an enlargement, you can see the white covers in both images of the 370 plane. You can also see that the flags are not identical between the 370 plane and the 17 plane, nor are they in the same position in relation to the windows. The angled line of the left edge of the flag in the debris piece cuts through the middle of the white cover, as it does in the 370 images. http://www.tribwatch.com/photos/ukraineWindowCompare.jpg
It was my theory claim that there were at least four different burned-out debris fields, too many. Adding to the problem, I do not recognize the trees in the background of the debris piece with the flag (below). I've not seen that mix of round trees with tall, thin trees. One can spot a badly-tilted electrical pole on the right side of these trees, and a close-up even reveals the wires strung toward them (the road therefore passes across the tree line). I find it remarkable that this debris piece, along with the tail fin, are at unrecognizable debris locations (not seemingly at any of the four or more that I studied).
http://www.tribwatch.com/photos/ukraineFlagDebris.jpgStone's page has a link to the following wreckage-photo page, helpful (but maybe not too helpful because it belongs to Google) for trying to put together some facts leading to good clues on what really happened:
https://www.google.com.mx/search?q=mh17+crash&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=t8HWU6XVLuXK8gHDs4F4&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ&biw=1024&bih=634I had been wondering when the fuselage would be shown. I commented on how hard it would be to plant a large piece of fuselage in an open field, or even on the side of the road, but below there is a piece of fuselage that has been dropped by a truck in a neighborhood, smack beside houses. Although very little of the surrounding ground is shown, there is enough in the foreground lacking even one piece of shattered debris...to prove that this thing did not fall from the sky.
http://www.tribwatch.com/photos/ukraineFuselage.jpgBelow, there is a shot of what I called the "tail piece" shown directly in front of a debris field! I was lamenting (two updates ago) that no media seemed to want to show us a debris field across the road from this tail. One might have trouble trying to figure whether this debris field is up or down the road from the tail piece. It looks like it's DOWN the road only a few feet, toward the body-bags bush), although the debris field is NOT showing in the body-bags image. This debris field could be pasted into this shot. http://www.tribwatch.com/photos/ukraineTailAndDebrisField.jpg
Now check out the image below showing nearly the same shot but proving that the debris field has one end directly in front of the tail piece, yet this alternative view of the tail shows no such field while pointing directly across the road. One can see the green grass (not burned out) under the red-and-white tape, but one can might assume that the debris field is just barely out of the picture to the left. http://www.tribwatch.com/photos/ukraineTailAndDebrisField2.jpg
A pasted debris field directly across from the tail is needed because it's logical to have it where the electrical wires (on street poles) were collapsed. The only image I could find of collapsed wires was the one in the alternative-view link above. I claimed that the planting party had collapsed the wires in the wrong place, you see, according to where I figured the debris field was (up the street rather than down), and so this picture above is needed to correct that problem. The body-bags image shows no such debris field, with one of its end directly across from the tail, though one can assume that the field is there but, once again, just barely out of the picture. To put it another way, the debris field with certain perimeters was carefully pasted where the goons thought they could get away with it in consideration of other images already in the public domain.
Below is a far-off shot showing both the body-bags bush and the pasted debris field. It can be seen that the debris field has been placed exactly where it cannot be seen in the body-bags image. The photo is likely given to us deliberately in low resolution so that expansion shows no details clearly. One problem right off is that it has the electrical poles with both the light-colored and dark-colored combination, what the body-bags image does not have. I claimed this problem two updates ago, and here we have the evidence that the claim was correct. One cannot contend that this debris field is not at the body-bags bush, for the picture shows things also in the body-bags image. For example, there is a very-tilted electrical pole three poles up the street from the bush, as well as a v-shape double-pole system across the street right where it should be according to the body-bags image.
http://www.tribwatch.com/photos/ukraineBodyBagsDebris.jpgWe can ask who took the photo above, the first shot I've seen coming from the air. The image appears to be squeezed to give the impression of less horizontal distance (up and down the street) than the reality. Look at how the light-colored poles seem to be missing up the road from the bush. That is, there are light-colored poles up to the bush, but they cannot be seen uphill beyond the bush, which is deliberate, obviously, in order to jibe with the body-bags image. One can see that one pole behind the body-bags bush is tilted toward the road, as it is in this other shot (below) of the body-bags bush where the tail piece is in the foreground. Beside the tilted pole in the picture below, one can also see a light-colored pole beside it, as with the debris-field shot: http://www.tribwatch.com/photos/ukraineTail3.jpg
Yet, below one can see the lighter poles UPHILL from the bush, and the debris field cannot be seen behind the bush, as though the picture was cropped or taken deliberately in order to NOT expose that there was no burned-our debris field there. It is made very evident that the debris field was planted well up the street, about one pole up from the tail piece, i.e. where the soldier holds the stuffed animal with debris at his feet. Note too that the tilted pole behind the body-bags bush is NOT TILTED, as though we are to believe that this image is not taking the body-bags bush. In the meantime, the tail piece is blocked by the other soldiers standing (pasted in for the purpose?): http://www.tribwatch.com/photos/ukraineStuffedAnimal.jpg
There has been a lot of photo doctoring going on, and it works to confuse some until they throw hands in the air not knowing who to believe. In this tripod image, one can see further behind the body-bags bush to verify NO DEBRIS FIELD there. But, as you can see, the tilted pole behind the bush is now perfectly erect, as though we are to think that this is not the body-bags bush. There is a motive, you see, in changing that pole, for the image shows no debris field, though the goons decided that they want for us to think that there was one in that grass. This tripod shot is at the same spot as where the soldier holds the stuffed animal, and the tail piece across the road is, once again, conveniently blocked by people standing in the way, so that we won't have evidence of this shot being of the body-bags bush.
Below is an image of the real debris field taken by a Russian media. The three people seen standing at the tail piece in other images (sharing the cloud types in the image below) are now standing at the debris field, suggesting that this field is across the road (not directly, but close) from the tail piece. But the electrical wires seen normally strung above their heads (below) means that the debris field is NOT where the low-resolution image has it. The low-resolution image has it directly across the street from the collapsed wires. The debris field below is UP the street one pole from the collapsed wires, which begs the question of how the tail piece got from this debris field to where we see it sitting.
http://www.tribwatch.com/photos/ukraineItarTass.jpgThat is, we must assume that the tail piece struck with the plane in the debris field, and bounced / rolled across the road to stand nice-and-pretty on the shoulder. But the wires can be seen not collapsed where we expect the tail to pass across the road; the wires are collapsed instead one pole down the street, which is wrong. The thing that could conceivably cause the wires to collapse is this large tail piece, and/or the other debris sitting smack with it, yet these items would need to move down the road more than one pole in order to slice the wires, then return up the street a ways to where we see them. But if the debris field were where they pasted it in, this problem would be corrected.
Below is a doctored photo with the tail piece NOT parallel with the road. It is way off parallel, but it is parallel in other images, including the body-bags image. The road is beyond the people to the front of the tail piece.
http://www.tribwatch.com/photos/ukraineTailNotParallel.jpgHere is another photo (July 18, long before anyone moved the tail piece) showing more clearly the same tail piece wildly off the parallel: http://www.tribwatch.com/photos/ukraineTailNotParallel2.jpg Due to how different it looks at the front, one is compelled to think that the engine at the end of this paragraph is not the same one as per this engine , and yet there is also this image that proves all three are the same engine. You can see that the latter one does not at all have the look of the one below, suggesting that these images could be pasted into the image, which is a lot easier than dropping the engines off by truck. In the image below, there is another large object behind the engine that looks like yet another engine, but that would make three engines in all, impossible according to the official story; this other engine is supposed to be the second engine, and it's clearly not at the same site, yet it too is beside a road (see two updates ago for that discussion).
http://www.tribwatch.com/photos/ukraineEngine2.jpgThe engine directly above is not only smack beside a road, but beside some barns that do not show in the several other burned sites. I have not seen these barns before, which is to say I have no other debris pieces associated with these barns. What other airplane parts do we expect where an engine fell, and why haven't I seen any (yet) with the barn likewise in the picture? It would be possible to drop the engine(s) off by truck at this barn location, but I would argue that the people living beside the spot are privy to the hoax. I would also argue that, if the engines were pasted in, they wouldn't paste them beside the road. For me, large pieces of aircraft debris smack at a road, over and over again through various debris sites, suggests trucked-in debris.
Here is the same engine, but looking in the opposite direction, if it can help locate this debris field:
http://www.tribwatch.com/photos/ukraineEngineOppositeView.jpgBelow is the same engine in another direction. There is a pole in the foreground suggesting a road going by. See if you can spot any wing parts. If the engine is there, why not one or both wings? Wings are made of more than aluminum skins; wings are large and heavy beams that fuel does not burn into nothingness. I'm almost half way down Google's wreckage page, but have not seen the wings as a certainty.
http://www.tribwatch.com/photos/ukraineEngine4.jpg
http://www.tribwatch.com/photos/ukraineEngine5.jpgOn the wreckage page (where these images have been obtained), there is a July-17 image of the flight-17 plane at the airport, we are to assume. Just so anyone can know, the right side of the plane is showing, but the extra window does not show, meaning that the white cover was on at take-off. However, there is a question of whether it took off at all.
http://www.tribwatch.com/photos/ukraineWindowAirport.jpg
http://www.tribwatch.com/photos/ukraineWindowAirport2.jpgFurther down the Stone page:
The last couple of days your site has started shutting down after about a minute or so. Today it is crazy, maybe every 10-15 seconds...Jackie
My response[.] It is standard procedure now for "them" to edit photos, videos, and anything else they find inconvenient when people discover the truth, this is one of the primary objectives of the NSA now. Their data center in Utah has this as a primary purpose, it is obvious this is true because after it went online, I cannot even keep photos on my own web site from getting messed with. This is made possible for them with back doors into operating systems and processors, and is a good reason to shut the NSA down. The NSA is supposed to protect WE THE PEOPLE, and not be used as a tool for destroying the truth. Glad to see you caught on!
This is the new war, where the United States wants to control even our images. I imagine a computer program that -- when I check my own images, with my own computer, to check whether they have been tampered -- allows the correct images to come up, the ones I loaded to my server. But when other computers, the world over, go to one of my images, the viewers can be transferred to another page having the modified, goon-version of the image, while everything else on the page, including the URL, still looks like my authentic page.
The Internet war gets more confusing if the goons start up websites with faked alternative-news people. It's nothing short of the typical methods used in everyday espionage at government levels.
Back to the Bloodline Discussion
Two tankers, the Nord Farer and the Angelica AN, are scheduled to deliver Kurdish crudes in August to buyers in France and Russia, according to Reuters tracking data....Despite objections from Baghdad and occasional disquiet in Washington [= turning a blind eye], a number of major U.S. companies, including ExxonMobil Corp, Chevron Corp, Marathon Oil Corp and Hess Corp, are operating in Iraqi Kurdistan.
http://kurdpress.com/En/NSite/FullStory/News/?Id=7951#Title=France
Hess Corp (has a location / plant in Houston)? It was founded by Leon Hess (Jewish) of New Jersey, where at least one of the 9-11 planes supposedly took off (i.e. the New Jersey airport and port authorities were part of that 9-11 false-flag operation for getting the American military into Iraq). Like many Masons (don't know whether Leon is one) controlled by Illuminati elements, he rose from rags to riches. Some say that the Illuminati had beginnings in Mayer Rothschild's affairs with a prince of Hesse-Cassel, though the Illuminati goes further back to Rosicrucians, now suspect, as of the last update, with Trypillians. As the latter were suggestively traced to the founding of Flemings (partly in the Netherlands), it's interesting that the Netherlands became stacked with Rosicrucians. The Flanders home of Flemings stretched from Holland to Belgium, and then the EU capital was chosen at Belgium, at a Brusi-suspect location.
As a Putna river was found in the Moldava-Wallachia border, let's quote from Wikipedia's article on Leon Hess: "He served in World War II, rising to the rank of Major, and serving as the fuel supply officer for General George S. Patton where he further developed his logistical expertise." The Putna became suspect with the "potent cross" of Skits and Scheds/Shed (and Chads), and so let's add that the Putent surname is listed with the same surname brought up with "Putten," which includes a Dutch branch.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leon_HessPattons were first found in Shropshire, and look like a branch of Masci's and Bellamys (the latter also first found in Shropshire). One can figure that the Dol Alans were involved here. The Patton motto term, "adepta", could be code for the DePots/Pots (Bellamy fesse in colors reversed), traced tentatively in the last update to Poti/Phasis elements at Botosani (Moldova), location of the Sitna river, important here because the Seatons/Sittens and Bellamys share the same-colored crescents. The DePots were first found in Berry, in the Cher area of France, and then the Folly's/Fully's (two-tailed purple lion) were from Normandy's Cherbourg, in Manche, where Bellamy-related Massey's lived). This apparent trace of Cher elements to Masseys/Maceys is actually good for proving my long-standing belief that the Hyksos had a household from Mus (Lake Van) that named Moses, for Berry was Avaricum anciently, like "Avaris," the Hyksos capital on the Nile delta.
As Hyksos must trace to Moldava with Ixion, let's add that multiple heraldic bars, as used by Folly-suspect Fullers and related Carpenters and Belli's (and Barrys and Berrys), are called "barry" while Irish Barrys use the triple double bars of the Moldava-suspect Molds/Mauds. Of further importance is that there must be a connecting reason as to why Massey liners use hollow lozenges (suspect with the Lazi at Poti) called mascles, and it squares well as per a Lazi alliance with Meshech. In fact, as the Lazi lived in Lazona, it's notable that Ladons/Ladds and Leaders appear to be using Meschin symbols and format. The Alis names of Meschin daughters as they merged with purple-lion Skiptons may apply to "Laz."
On top of this, I traced Ixion's official wife, Dia, to Deylamites (suspect from Dilmun/Telmun, birthplace of Ishtar) in the Ardahan / Sevan region, where the Hayasa-Azzi were from. Hera, you see, who was revealed in myth (see Nephele) as an aspect of Dia, was from Lake Sevan. I didn't mention the above trace (of years ago) in the last update when tracing the Hayasa-Azzi and Ixion to Moldava. In fact, the Azzi and Ixion were identified with the Aeson > Iason line to the golden fleece, and the Lazi (whom I trace to the Lasonii of the Lydia area) were the golden-fleece bloodline. The Lasonii are said to have been a fellow tribe with Cabelees and Pisidians (I know for a fact that the Mus > Massey line traces to Pisidians of Grecian Pisa, at the wife of Pelops), and the Cabelees (possibly from the Abello version of "Apollo") named Cybele, the mother goddess (probably from Ishtar) of Phrygia. It is likely that Bellamy's and Belli's (use barry bars) were the Baal > Bel cult that was Apollo. Again, Bellamy's and Masseys trace to Bellerophon and Pegasus while Bellerophon was from king Sisyphus, a king in Corinth, where Jason married the daughter of Aeetes, owner of the golden fleece, after stealing the fleece.
Cybele was made married to an aspect of Aeetes (at Hattusa), and her child with her husband was Lydus, myth code for Lydians. Another myth code for Lydians was Leto, which Romans called Latona, same as the Lasonii, or the Laz from Lazona; this tends to verify that Cybele was otherwise Apollo...a line that went to Leda, wife of Tyndareus, from Tyndaris beside the golden-fleece city. But if Cybele was an aspect of Apollo and a tribe of Lazi, the Meshech expected with the Lazi were the so-called Muses of Apollo (= Mysians, neighbors of Lydians). As I trace Hyksos to the formation of Trojans, it is of no surprise that Troy was in Mysia, named after the Mus household of the Hyksos.
So, at least some Berry / Barry families are expected to be from the Avaris Hyksos, and for me this is indicating that the Carpenters, and therefore the Carpi (beside Dacians), were a Hyksos line. It can be expected that Avaris was named after Avars of Caucasia, who still live in Dagestan to this day. I traced Dagestani to Dacians. As Irish Berry's (said to be from DesMONDS, MusKERRY entity) are from MUNster, suddenly the latter term can trace to Muntenia (= Wallachia beside Moldava), for that's where Munds/MONDs trace...who were first found in Shropshire, and therefore linkable to Putna-suspect Pattons. The Putna might just have been named after peoples of Poti.
BIG STROKE: The Kerry's not only share the bee theme with the Munds/Monds, but the Kerry Coat is another HOURGLASS Shield!!! That was badly needed for readers not convinced that what I personally call the "hourglass" Shield (used by Skits and Scheds) is code for the hourglass goddess of Trypillians. Another surname using the bee (on a daisy) is the Desmond-related Deas/Dais family (Angus)...that can trace to mythical Dia at the Mus area of Lake Van.
This is all in line with a tracing of Hague's to the Agarus in proto-Moldova. The Hyksos of that area go to the Hectors/Heckie's, probably related to the Hagars, and then the Hectors, until recently, showed a large sun like the Hess and Solana Coats, a sun now suspect with the sun of Romania / Transylvania.
As The Hague is in Holland, note that the Hague surname uses Roque colors and the rock design once showing for years (until recently) in the Roque/Rock Coat (first found where Roquefeuil was located). The Hague's had been the namers of the Agarus, and linked there to Roxolani Alans, isn't that right? The "Sola" motto term of the Hague's could be for the Sol/Solana (wolf heads around the border) bloodline to Javier Solana, he being of the family that greatly helped to form the EU. Both the Hess and Solana Coats use a large sun. The wolf was a special symbol of Moldava, especially as it related a dragon entity, suggesting the so-called Dacian Dragon with dog/wolf head.
The Sola surname (fish), suspect in a merger with Hague's, was first found in Traby-suspect DERBYshire. Therefore, as we have good reason already to trace the Hague surname to Dacians and neighboring Roxolani, let's add that the Hague Coat is in the colors of the Zionists star used by Hagar(d)s, who were traced to an Agarus river (top-right of map), now the Siret in Moldava. There is a Solca location on my atlas at the source of the Moldava river that can explain the Solana wolves.
The Solney variation of Sola's above was traced to "Saulnier, a variation of the Saunier surname, important because the money-mystery of Rennes-le-Chateau was as per a priest there with Sauniere surname, and even the Da Vinci Code (fiction by Dan Brown) alludes to him. Rennes-le-Chateau is smack beside Roquefeuil.
In the last update, the Vrancea area of Moldova was traced to "Avrances" in Normandy, and so read that the Sola/Solnier surname is traced (in its write-up) to "Subligni's near Avrance...Richard Subligny was Bishop of Avrances." We shouldn't assume that "Subligny" was the original term of this surname. The write-up traces them to marriage with Painells -- no doubt Panico-related Pagnells -- in the Cornwall peninsula, with a "main estate" at Newton Solney, otherwise called Sola. Therefore, the Sola bloodline honored by the Hague's (Chappes colors) is suspect with the Templar line of Caiaphas.
As the Cornwall peninsula includes Devon, the Silly's (Devon) can apply, who share a Sully variation with Sola's (can trace to an influential Roman dictator with Sully surname). The Sola Coat, by the way, uses the Mund format I spoke on in the last update, which traces to Muntenia. The Mund format is used in the Exeter Coat, i.e. from a peoples in Devon, as well as by Walsh's/Walchs using a "Trans" term in their motto that should be for "Transylvania." The Silly's/Sullys use a triple white chevron (in the colors of the chevron used in the Mund format), which we will see a few more times in this update where "triple" is suspect as code for "Trypillians"...even as the Double's (share bells with Exeters) can be traced with the "double tressure border" of Flemings to the Tresure's/Treasure's of Somerset. The Sola write-up says that the family "acquired considerable estates in Cornwall, Devon and Somerset" when merged with Painells, and that might be due to the Caepio gold bars passing to the Painell family when Hugh de Payens married Elizabeth Chappes.
See the double-tressure border as used by the Chartres/Charter surname, first found in Devon (suspect with the Bellamy-of-Perche bloodlines in Somerset), from Chartres (beside Perche). The Chartres/Charters are in the colors of Chards, first found in Somerset. Are Chartres' using the blue Depot/Pot fesse, suspect earlier with Bellamys? As Depots were first found at Cher, by what coincidence do Chards come up as "Char"?
Roets were first found in Somerset, and they were from Payne Roet, but to this it can be added that Cathers/Catters (share fish with Sola's) are suspect with these Roets because Payne's daughter (Catherine) was the owner of the heraldic Catherine wheel. In other words, the Painells that gave the Sola's their financial jump-start may have been from a Roet line of Payens, important because I traced the Roets to the Boofima cult, at Perigord, for one, where the Saunier/Saulnier's surname was first found.
Later in this update, I will get on to the fitchee-using Hanna surname (stags in the colors of the Racken fitchee), first found in the same place (Wigton) as Rackens. This fitchee will be elaborated upon in a trace to the gold treasure of Quintus Caepio (Quints use a fitchee too). The Rackens are mentioned here because Silly's/Sullys are said to have been lords of Rackenford (Roxolani from the Agarus?). You will later see how the fitchee is a symbol of MontFitchet, and so note that the triple red-on-white chevrons of Sillys/Sullys is shared by the Montfitchets. The Catherine wheel was an instrument of torture (Ixion was eternally strapped to a wheel in Hell, as goes the myth), and the fitchee (a stake-like sword) is suspect as a sacrifice tool for cults, like Boofima, conducting human sacrifices. The idea of stake in the heart is the epitome of The Impaler, the real count Dracula of Transylvania.
The Quint fitchee is held by a lion's "paw," and then the Paws share a peacock symbol with Munts (Muntenia overlaps Transylvania). I recall tracing the Paws and peacock liners to a blue-apple riddle in regards to the treasure at Rennes-le-Chateau. As Peacocks are a Pollock sept, it seemed to involve the de-Pol family at Foix-Candale (Foix is beside Rennes-le-Chateau). The blue apples were identified with the Applebys and Apples (blue Shields, and sharing footless martlets with Sadducee liners). This update gets into new things where the Caepio line merged with that of Charles MARTEL in the Perigord / Gascony theater...which can explain, for one, why Sadducee liners use MARTLets.
As per the Sten / Stan / Stein trace of the last update to Stenarum, beside a gold-mine area, see that Montfitchets are said to be from a Stanes / Stan entity. The Caepio gold bars are expected to be the reason for the great wealth of Rockefellers and Rothschilds. This wealth is bringing the Caiaphas line to Iraq, isn't it, for to join the anti-Christ entity, like a harlot on a dragon.
The Stanes/Stan Coat (has a cloud in Crest suspect with Ixion) can link to the Flacks (Meschin kin, as with Montfitchets), and the Flacks are suspect with the Aflaq surname that co-founded Baathists. Belgian Flecks (gold bar) look to be using the Spanish Capet Shield, and the latter share the Martel crown design.
The Hanna fitchee will be traced to Macclesfield, which uses a lion (the lion of Yorkshire Bruces) in colors reversed from the German Flocks, who were just looked up as per the Flog variation of Belgian Flecks. English Flocks/Flogtons (Yorkshire, as with Stanes'), in the colors of the two Stanes surnames and the Flacks, are also "FOLCKEton, important where Spanish Capets and Belgian Flecks are using versions of the Fulkes/Folk Coat (must have the underlined 'e' to come up). Therefore, this is the line from Anjou Fulks that had Fulk V on the throne of Templar Jerusalem. Flacks were first found in the same place (NorFOLK) as Fulkes'/Folks.
There was a Centaur with Folos name living near the Ladon river of Greece, and that term was traced to "Volos," a location in Thessaly (Ixion's home), where also Aeson and Jason lived. As Folly's are properly, "Folliot," suggesting foilage, the RoqueFEILs (and related Fullers) are coming to mind. The Folly's are the ones with a purple lion (not an official heraldry color), used also by Lazi-suspect Lacys and Luz'. I've not clinched a Fulk / Flack trace to Folos / Volos elements, but the possibility is there. Folos lived at Kendron, also "Kedron," like the "Kidron" valley at Jerusalem, and Templars had their home at the Temple, smack beside the Kidron valley. Perhaps Solomon's horse stables were on the Kidron side of the Temple, and these stables may have been there since the Jebusites controlled Jerusalem (in the early days of Solomon's father). The Hyksos were in Jerusalem, were they not, in times prior to when David conquered the Jebusites.
Here's from a July-31 article entitled, "American billionaire seen as mystery buyer of Kurdish oil":
Chemicals firm LyondellBasell, owned by Ukraine-born billionaire Leonard Blavatnik, appears to be the mystery American buyer of two cargoes of Kurdish crude delivered in May, according to U.S. government data and industry sources, Reuters said.Nearly two months prior to this week's standoff between the central government of Iraq and Kurdistan over a tanker near Texas with $100 million of Kurdish crude, a smaller ship with Kurdish oil discharged its cargo of heavy, sour Shaikan crude in Houston without any legal tangles. A second ship arrived later in May, data show.
The ultimate buyer of those cargoes had remained a mystery - until now.
...The data show two shipments of 266,000 and 267,000 barrels of crude oil, both with 4.6 percent sulfur content, far higher than typical Iraqi imports but in line with the Kurdish Shaikan variety, according to market sources familiar with the oil.
LyondellBasell did not respond to emails and phone messages from Reuters asking if it had contracted to buy Kurdish oil. A spokesman for Blavatnik's global conglomerate Access Industries, which has a stake in Lyondell, did not comment. Blavatnik, a U.S. citizen who was born in Odessa to Russian-speaking [Jewish] parents, is now the world's 33rd richest man after selling his stake in TNK-BP to Russian oil giant Rosneft, according to Forbes.
US State Department said it has no information on who bought the May cargoes.
http://kurdpress.com/En/NSite/FullStory/News/?Id=7936#Title=American
Of all things, a Ukrainian background as well as a Russian one. I don't know what to make of it at the moment. Perhaps the Americans taking part in the Ukraine for to spoil Russia's South Stream pipeline, and seeking simultaneously to secure Kurdish oil sales, are involved with this billionaire. On Blavatnik: "He has made his fortune through business via diversified investments in a myriad of companies through his conglomerate company, Access Industries...Access Industries bought petrochemicals and plastics manufacturer Basell Polyolefins from Royal Dutch Shell [said to be a Rothschild company] and BASF for $5.7 billion in August 2005." Wikipedia's article on BASF, headquartered near Frankfurt, says that it supplied chemicals for Hitler. BASF uses a black logo, typical Illuminati color. It was named after Baden, and so let's remind that the Baden/Battin surname uses a human eye suspect with Rothschilds. Access Industries even uses a pyramid shape for it's logo (evoking the pyramid and all-seeing-eye on the American one-dollar bill).
Should we ask whether the George-Bush family is involved in this or past deliveries of Kurd oil to Texas? I accused the family of going to Iraq in the first place for Rothschild interests. On LyondellBasell, with headquarters in ROTTERdam (Netherlands), a land stacked with Rosicrucians about the time of the first Rothschild: "LyondellBasell Industries (NYSE: LYB) is an American public multinational chemical company based in Houston, Texas..." The Basel surname, first found in the same place as Bush's, evokes last update's trace of Base's and Bass' to the Baseu-river area of Moldova, where Templarism and Rosicrucianism had some scythian roots.
The Basel Coat uses "plates" (black-on-white roundels), and then German Plate's use a grape vine, a symbol I've traced to a coin of Herod Archelaus, who was banished from Israel in 6 AD as per Romans taking power away from Herods and stocking all powers in Annas, who was made the high priest by Romans in the same year (not for free, but for something in return). Archelaus either chose or was forced to reside in Vienne-Isere, near Lyon (like Lyonde") and off the Foret region that goes uphill from the Rhone river into Savoy...beside Switzerland. There is a Swiss Basel Coat likewise in black-on-white, and Swiss banks are suspect for where the remaining Caepio gold, or its equivalent, was stored, no questions asked.
[Correction, "plates" are white roundels while black roundels are pellets. However, I will not change the above or below because it seems that Plate's and Pellet's are identical stock. Pellets (Sussex) use the same Coat as Pilette's (Lincolnshire). In case one of them is changed, I have just verified, and have mentioned this several times in the past: the two surnames are using identical Coats, the grails also identical in design.]
Savoy is where Modane is located, and where the Cottius family ruled that is honored in the fretty lattice of the Cott Coat, used also by a Moden/Modley surname. As Modane is suspect with the Modi'in location (Israel) of the Maccabees (out of whom came the swan-suspect Sadducees to whom Annas belonged) by what coincidence is the swan in the Basel Coat of the same design shown until fairly recently in the French Joseph Coat?
For those who haven't read it from me, let me add that the feathered helmet of the English Lannoy Coat is evidence that Herod Archelaus was in Vienne-Isere, for that's the symbol on the other side of the Herod coin having the grape vine. French Lannoys then use the green-on-white Lyon lion, meaning that "Lannoy" is from the same that named "Lyon." Although "Lannoy" smacks of "Alan," the Lyonde-like Lindsey surname is coming to mind, what seems to be a Stewart branch and using the Basel swan design too.
As vine-using Plate's are also "Blate," the white-on-green Blate's/Blade's, first found in the same place (Yorkshire) as Basels, can apply. The white "pheon" arrow heads in the Blate/Blade Coat are used by the Pilate surname, suggesting that plate-using Basels were linked to a line from Pontius Pilate. The previous name of Lyon was Lugdunum, and it just so happens that this term was used for the location (now COMMINges) where Herods brother, Antipas, was banished.
Herod Archelaus received his Archelaus surname when he married Glaphyra Archelaus of Syria (where Annas' father was from), and her family ruled a religious cult at COMANa in CAPPAdocia (Glaphyra had been previously married to king Juba, a descendant of king Massena of Numidia). The Blade's are said to have developed a Burseblade surname, and the Burce's (escutcheon), from a Burcy location, look like Burgh's, important because John de Burgo (founder of Conteville's) was a ruler at a COMYNs entity, while the Comyn/COMMINGs surname not only shares the gold-on-blue garbs of English Josephs, but smacks of the namers of "Comminges"...at Toulouse, where Quintus Caepio, suspect as the ancestor of Joseph Caiaphas, found and stole some 50,000 gold bars (not including the silver bars that were part of the stash), enough to make his family rulers of the world and international bankers, if only they could find ways to launder this potential cash.
A single family cannot spend even the value of one gold bar without being asked questions, but as the Romans took Caepio to court in an effort (failed) to retrieve the bars, we know that his family was essentially barred from spending money it could not justify. The problem was, how to use the gold, a problem that would remain generation after generation.
The year after he stole the bars (from the Roman government, whose "employee" he was when he found them in war), Caepio fought a war at Orange, near Lyon. Was that war for the retrieval of the gold bars by the previous (not necessarily original) owners? I would say, logically, yes. The point is, the bars appear, in this picture, to be near the home of Herod Archelaus. Did Herod know that bars were at that area? I say, yes, for his brother chose the Toulouse area (I doubt that the Romans chose it for him).
The Lindseys are suspect with an old name of Lincolnshire, where Herod-suspect Rhodes' (roundels) were first found that formed an Illuminati group (or more than one) with Rothschilds. "Lindsey" can trace to Lindos on Rhodes, and so mark this: Kamiros was also on Rhodes, and the Cimmerian founders of that place are suspect in the Cimmerians that Caepio warred against at Orange. Could this mean that the gold bars had been from Rhodes? The Rodez location (into which Roquefeuils married) is near Toulouse.
Months ago, I suggested that the Caepio family purchased cheap gold mines to feign finding gold in order to justify great expenditures. It should have been the first method of laundering the gold coming to mind. This idea could be important where I mentioned (last update) the gold mines at Alburnus Maior and Ampelum. I suggested that the latter location could link to Campbells (in Burse colors) for a very good Arthurian / Excalibur reason, and, besides, the Herod surname was first found in the same place (Argyllshire, an ARCHELaus-like term) as Campbells and MacArthurs. I know that the so-called gyronny symbol of the Campbell Coat comes from the Arms of Gironde, a place to which the Garonne river flows after flowing past Toulouse and Comminges. I would therefore be a ninny to deny that the Caepio bars were a part of this Campbell picture.
It just so happens that Camps (Campbell colors, including gold) use the colors and format of English Capone's, important because some of Quintus Caepio's descendants, including the mistress of Julius Caesar, went by "Caepionis." The Capone's were first found in the same place (Cambridgeshire) as Julians...suggesting that Caesar's child(ren) with his mistress (Servilia Caepionis) went to the Campbells.
The Arms of Gironde use the gyronny in the colors used for it of the Picard surname, and it just so happens that French Lannoys were first found in Picardy (beside Artois), which I view as an Arda entity of Arthurians.
Before the Garonne gets to Gironde, it flows through Bordeaux, a place I traced to the Border surname (this was just traced to a Burridensi peoples at Burridava, beside Arutela). I am now tracing Flemings to Trypillians of Moldova, and Flemings are the ones owning a "double tressure BORDER," while Tresure's were first found in the same place as Borders, Badens/Battins, Percivals, Pierces and Burcy's/Burse's. That means that Burse's (in Campbell / Camp colors) were Percival liners, and that the Blate / Plate bloodline honored by Basels had merged with the "grail-king" Percivals.
If "Campbell" was a from "Abellinum" in CAMPania, that's the Naples area where Italian Capone's and Pagans were first found.
It's notable that the "plates" of the Basels can link to the same of the Foy/Foix surname, for there was a Foix-Candale entity (mentioned in the other Foix-Coat page) that was a merger of the Foix area (smack beside Comminges) with a Candale location smack beside Bordeaux and Gironde. It just so happens that Candale was ruled by John of Gaunt for a time, who married Catherine Roet. She was from a Payne Roet of Picardy (near Estaples), and therefore suspect with the Arms of Gironde as used by the Picard surname. As I trace Payens/Pagans to a Pek river's Cuppae location (not far from Ampelum), perhaps "Picardy" was a Pek-Artois entity from Arutela.
Of further interest here is that while I trace Payens/Paions to a Paioni peoples with a city, Stobi, and as per a related trace of the latter to naming the Stubbs (Staffordshire) and the Staffs, it is remarkable that Staffs are using what could be a version of the Quint Coat. Why would Caepio's be linked to Paeoni peoples? The Stobi discussion had been very fruitful, especially as it found the Cavii peoples (thought by me to be Caepio ancestry) to the west of Stobi at the Kotor theater (fish symbol), where I trace "Catherine" and Cathers/Catters (fish).
Fish ("lampreys") are used by the Prude/Pryde surname that could be from the Prut (ancient Pyretus) river of Moldova, and this family is said to be from Paganus de Prideaux. The other Prude's/Prats (could be using the Fall Shield) use the Roquefeuil trefoils (used by Fellers, not to mention the fish-using Pike's), but I identified TREFoils as code, not only for "Feuil / Feller," but for the Treff variation of German Trips. Why would Trypillians on the Prut lead to a Paeoni peoples? As I identify the Paeoni with Phoenicians (anciently Poeni), see the Tyras river one river north of the Prut. The Bastarnae and Sarmatians (Alan ancestors, from Trabzon area according to HERODotus) are stamped on the Tyrus.
The lamPREY symbol of Prude's is for the Preys, first found in the same place (Auvergne) as French Prudes. Auvergne (or Aveyron) is at Rodez, and the fact that Rods use green trefoils (color of the Prude trefoils) clinches the Rod trace to Henry IV of Rodez, who married a Roquefeuil. "Prey" could be from "PYRetus," the old name of the Prut. Irish Preys could be using the Carpenter bars and the Strange / Tool lion. Carpenters (share a motto term with Bouillons) are Feller-suspect Fuller kin, and trace to the Carpi neighbors of the Alan-based Roxolani. Tools could be "Dol" or "Toulouse" elements, I'm not sure which if any. Carpenters share the gold crosslets of Trips and Hamburgs, and the Trips/Treffs were first found in Hamburg, suggesting a Carpi trace to peoples of Hamburg.
Artois is where the family of Godfrey de Bouillon ruled / lived, and the Bouillons (first found in Auvergne, near Toulouse) use the flory cross of Burridensi-suspect Burds/Birds in colors reversed. It can be gleaned here that Bouillons were named after gold- or silver-bar bullion, and trace to Bordeaux. It could be expected, if the Garonne was navigable, that some of the Caepio gold bars were shipped down that river from Toulouse to the Garonne area. This is how Basques could enter the gold-bar families. The fact that the Bouillon cross is heraldic "silver" (white) may suggest that Bouillons got the silver bars amongst the gold bars. See Wikipedia's article on Quintus Caepio for that story.
The Foys/Foix's that use the plates were first found in the same place as Bouillons and Prude's, and Foix's were traced in the last update, along with Faucets, to Focsani in Moldava. If correct, it tends to clinch a Prude trace to the Prut.
Again, Auvergne is at Rodez...where Henry IV of Rodes married a daughter of the billet-using Roquefeuils. That is, the Arms of Roquefeuil, a location beside Foix and Rennes le Chateau, use heraldic billets = metal bars. What a coincidence that bullion-suspect Bouillons look absolutely related to the Rodez-Roquefeuil marriage. The Bouillon / Burd cross must be two silver billets in the form of a cross. Such holy people, huh? See also the Billet surnames -- a branch of Bellows (black wolf) suspect in the "bello" motto term of Bouillon -- asking if related to "BILDerburg."
I did not emphasize in the last update that the Roxolani in Moldova led to the Roque's, first found in the same place (Languedoc / Septimania) as Roquefeuil. The Arthurian symbol of the Excalibur stuck in a rock (the latter is used by Roque's/Rocks) could be part-code for Roxolani liners. I identify Arthur's wife, Guinevere, as a line from Lake Van to Vannes at Brittany, and then to the Venedotia founders of Gwynedd (includes a Rhos location, north Wales), and so let's add that the Roxolani may trace to the Rusa-named kings of Lake Van, who were vassals of the invading Cimmerians suspect as the origin of the Welsh. Vannes is where a Veneti peoples lived, who trace to the Heneti on the south shores of the Black sea, location also of Sinop, where the Cimmerians of Lake Van had their base. In other words, a Cimmerian-Rusa alliance is expected at Rhodes as the proto-Rosicrucians. The Ordu location near Sinop must have named the Ordovices of Gwynedd. Does this trace the Caepio bars all the way back to the Cimmerian-Rusa alliance on Rhodes? Did that alliance leave Rhodes to form the Roxolani, or were the Roxolani independent of the Rhodes group? The Cecil-Rhodes family is said to have formed the Round Table Illuminati, suggesting the Roxolani of Rhodes...if the Excalibur represents the Roxolani.
But, again, the Excalibur was "Caliburnus" to the Welsh, and thus traces to Alburnus Maior, the location of gold mines off the Mures river of Transylvania. The Walsh's (strike us as a Welsh entity) with "Trans" motto term buried in their motto, honor the Morton line (i.e. probably from the Mures), but Mortons share the goat of Russells, apparently, the one first found in Wiltshire, and the other in neighboring DORset ("d'or" can mean, "gold"). Russells are suspect from "Roussillon," the area around Rodez, but then perhaps this was named by the king-Rusa line. It had been my impression that Ares was on Rhodes, even though he's known as a god of Thrace, and so, indeed, a Rusa migration from Rhodes to Moldova (northern-Thrace theater) is possible. That means that the gold bars may have gotten to Moldova, where the proto-Bretons lived that included the Welsh Bretons. When the Welsh of Wales had to flee war, they went to Brittany, likely because they were from the Veneti of Brittany to begin with.
One can then expect that the Cimmerian-Rusa alliance at the Sinop / Ordu theater had paired with the local Heneti, who are said to have lived on a Parthenius river, one river west of the Halys. As Bretons are said to be from a Pretani peoples, compare with "Parthen," and therefore consider tracing the namers of the Parthenius to "Pyretus/Porata." The dog entity of Dacians can then go to Ordu, what I consider to be proto-Orthos (two-headed dog of far-west Geryon that I traced to Erethlyn of north Wales). I trace the Cotesii (who lived on the same Buzau river as the Daci and Roxolani are stamped) to mythical Cotys in the Sinop / Thermodon theater, though it's known that Thracians had an evil goddess by the name of Cotys. Was this the Trypillian goddess?
Bouillons were Flemings and thus suspect with Trypillians. The latter were identified with an Ixion line to the Cantii founders of Kent, where the English Trips were first found who use the crosslets of Bouillon-suspect Carpenters, called "crusader" crosses, the symbol of the fire-using, Flemish Julians. If the Bouillons do trace to Burd elements in Bordeaux, then CANDale is expected to be a Cantii / Centaur line too. Centaurs were of course not real, except that they were a depiction of a horse-using peoples, and I pegged them years ago (not now for convenience) as being named after "Heneti." Centaurs are thus suspect on the Prut river with Heneti, keeping in mind that the latter are now identified as the founders of Gwynedd, and of the Brit people as a whole. The Burds/Birds (smack of "Brit/Bret") use martlets / martins, symbol of Martels / Martins, first found in Gascony, location of Gironde and the Garonne river. Brittany is not far off.
Did the Argo ship have gold bars? Is that what the gold fleece is code for? The Argo ship sailed into the Danube, and that's where the Prut river flows to, near to the mouth of the Danube. The Argo ship then sailed to the near-end of the Danube, up the Adriatic to the mouth of the Po, then up to Po the Rhodanus and Eridanus (the Eridanus may have been the Rhodanus on the east side of lake Geneva), then out to the Tyrrhenian sea, all according to the Argonautica, written by a man from Rhodes. Therefore, in this picture, the gold bars at Toulouse are suspect with the Rhodians that named the Rhodanus (modern Rhone), and also from the Cimmerian-Rusa alliance in proto-Moldova.
Rennes-le-Chateau is likely named after Rennes of Brittany, in the same part of Brittany as Dol, a term like "Toulouse." The Voirs/Voyers of Brittany are suspect from BOYERs, and the Cimmerians that fought against Quintus Caepio at Orange included one ruler, BOIORix. I had read that the area at Rennes-le-Chateau was "Aereda," much like Haeredaland / Hirota in Norway, what I traced via viking invaders to the naming of Erethlyn in Wales. Voirs/Voyers are said to have lived in Gripel, evoking Herod Agrippa. Compare "Herod " to "Aerada / Haeredaland."
The Seagars/Sugars traced to the Sugaar snake god of the Gascony area, married to Mari (likewise a Basque deity) and thus suspect with the Martels / Martins. I suspected the Caepio line to Joseph Caiaphas through Junia Secunda, daughter of Servilia Caepionis. Only after claiming that idea did I find that, very unexpectedly, a Second surname listed with Segurs. This surname was first found in Limousin, the north side of Gascony. The Henry surname, known to be related to the Joseph surname of HAMPshire (Camp elements?), uses martlets. Where in this picture could we trace such a Henry surname? At Rodez, right?
Limousin is where Ardens were first found, suspect from an Ardon river of Alania (in the Caucasian land of the Sindi, who trace to Sintians at Lemnos, the island that named the Gaul namers of Limousin, beside the Sintian-based Santones Gauls). The first I ever learned of the Sittaceni (Sadducee suspects) was in Wikipedia's Sindi article.
The Ardons/Artois' (with an 'o') use Campbell colors, and share a red Crest with Capone's. Ardons strike me as using the eagle of Botters/Bodins (same eagle design now showing), now red but until recently showing in brown, a form of gold, the color of the Ardon eagle. The Botter/Bodin eagle now shows in the red color of the eagle head in the Ardon/Artois Crest. As it links to Arthurian lines, it's suspect as the phoenix out of Lake Van. It could be a colors-reversed version of the white-on-red eagle head of Dutch Camps. The Botter/BODINs were first found in the same place, Hampshire, as Bidens/BUTTONs, and this place is where one Henry Joseph, or Joseph Henry (I can't recall which), reportedly founded the English Joseph surname...thus making Joseph Caiaphas suspect with Henry IV of Rodes.
Let's not neglect the martlet of French Josephs in this Rodez / Gascony picture wherein proto-Martels are tracing to Britain. Understand here that while "Ampelum" is suspect as a proto-Campbell term of the Caepio's, it can go to "Capelli," a surname (Bologna) that uses the chapeau symbol, borrowed by Bidens/Buttons (the latter, of Bath and Wells in Somerset, trace easily to Badens/Batins, first found in Somerset).
Italian Botters were traced to the Butteri peoples at Ardea (south of Rome), which is where Aphrodite (goddess of the Heneti > Veneti line who became Venus) first appeared in Italy, and she was the official wife of the god of Lemnos. Therefore, Ardea should link to the Ardon river of Alania, and that's where the Iberi lived that I think became the Kabeiri of Hephaestus. If this is tracing Ardon-river Alani to the Prut river, it works well, not only where Roxolani Alans appeared there, but as per an Arda location in Thrace upon the Hebros river of Aphrodite.
The god of Lemnos was lame from birth (a code that myth writers gave him to indicate links to Dionysus, who was also in Lemnos, and who had a limp from birth). The martlet under discussion happens to be "footless," thus indicating that Martels were linked to Limousin elements. The Hebros was also the "MARITsa," thus indicating that Martels ought to be from that term. This can explain why the cult of king Arthur was a Merovingian people in Britain, an idea I realized several years before proving that Pepins (= Merovingians, known to be from Heneti) were from Bebba Bernicians. But why did this family form as Martel = hammer rather than some other Mart-like term? Would Maccabees apply? Arddu, a location in the land or Ordovices, are said to be named after the hammer. And the Ordovices were near/at Mona, smacking of "HasMONean."
If this is helping to convince you that the entity of fabulous king Arthur formed Carolingians proper at Charles Martel, don't forget that Birds/Burds use the CARLisle cross, or that the Burridensi were at ARUTela. The BURRIDensi can be suspect as another branch of proto-PRETANi, and can thus trace to Heneti at the Parthenius, explaining why king Arthur's wife was the Heneti line from that river, or the Venus line to the goddess of Ardea.
In the last update, I ended up speaking on a vision of a blue "Cappeo" lion that has proved to be of the Caepio bloodline. The vision (very short and to-the-point compelling) was from a dedicated reader with a Martin bloodline. She had no idea that the blue-on-white lion of the Yorkshire Bruce's (said to be from a Brix entity) traced to the same-colored lion in the Arms of BREScia/Brixia, where Italian Martins were first found...who look like they are using the Panico/Panetta Chief. I re-mentioned the blue lion of Hallams (Yorkshire) in the Cappeo discussion (last update), and it just so happens that the same reader is also a Hall liner. She, in fact, got me onto the Hall / Hallam/Halland topic to begin with just before she had the Cappeo vision as she awoke from a night's sleep. She married one of a Wilt bloodline, and so let me add that, in the last update, I wrote: "The Caepio-suspect Yorks [Cappeo-like motto term] were likewise first found in Wiltshire." These are evidences that her vision was a message of God to the world. God chose her for this revelation because her bloodlines applied directly.
I now find, as I wrote above, that while the HAMPshire's show no Coat (I wanted to check for CAMP links), they are said to be from HALLAMshire (a village) of West Yorkshire. Amazing, for in the midst of finding that, I recalled that Camps (Capone-suspect s) were first found in Yorkshire! One can thus make a Caepionis trace from the gold-bar area of Gascony to the Caiaphas line of Hampshire Josephs. Hampshire is where the Atrebates lived that trace easily to king Arthur elements, as for example the Artois capital (Atrecht) was founded by Atrebates. This peoples was the golden-fleece line of mythical ATREus (gold lamb symbol, ruler of Argos, son of Pelops, ruler of an (H)Eneti location) through the ODRYSians at Arda (Hebros).
While it was alive, the golden ram was flown by the brother of mythical Helle, suspect as Alans and/or Gels in a line to Hallams. The Dents, from "D'Anet", and suspect in the last update with "Annas," were likewise from West Yorkshire, as were Hampshire-associated Hallams. The son of Atreus married Helen of Troy, from the Hellespont, where Helle died when she fell of the golden ram flying to Colchis (mere symbolism). This tends to expose that Hallams were of the Atrebates of Hampshire, and so the blue lion of Hallams is more evidence yet that Josephs of Hampshire were Caiaphas liners. The above begs the question of whether "Hamp" had been a cross of "Hallam" and "Camp." English Hamps could be using the Quint chevron.
I made mention that the Dents of Cumbria (home of Cimmerians related to the Welsh Brits) were therefore at / near Carlysle, a city whose namers I view with proto-Carolingians, and here we have good Hallam-related reason for tracing proto-Martels to Carlysle. Not only does the Carlisle surname use the same red flory cross as Burds/Birds, but the latter uses footless martlets. As Burds are suspect at Bordeaux, note that John of Gaunt (at the Bordeaux theater) was founder of the Lancastrian rose line, for West Yorkshire is beside Lancaster. The Arms of Hampshire uses a red rose, the color of the Lancastrian rose, as well as a crown, the symbol of French / Gascony Martels. The Ghents, from the Flemish city that named John of Gaunt, were first found in Hampshire.
The Ghents were Heneti, weren't they? Assuming that Ghents were from the Prut-river Heneti, it lends some support to a Fleming = Trypillian equation, especially where the Heneti were from a Genetes location near Trabzon. I'll come back to this below.
The footless martlet can also be clever code for the Caiaphas-like CyFOETH motto term of Gernons, who smack of "gyronny" and the Garonne river. The Foot surname (gold Shield, and a chevron in colors reversed from the Capone / Camp chevron) was first found in Cheshire, where Ranulph de Gernon ruled. There is a Footes location on Gernon-like Guernsey off of Manche. The Foots use a flag in Crest, often code for Meschin-related Flecks/Flacks (Ranulph above was son of Ranulph le Meschin). See also the Foot-related Fothes/Fette's (same chevron as Foots) with a cornuCOPIA in Crest (you can't still be a denier, can you?), and stars in colors reversed to the Capone stars.
It just struck me that the "INDUStria" motto term of Fothes/Fette's, one that I think Rothschilds like, is for the idea presented by some, that the Sindi of Caucasia named the Sindhi of India / Pakistan, the founders / namers of the INDUS valley. This tends to support a trace of Foots and Fothes (and "footless") to the Sintians on the island of lame Hephaestus. Therefore, trace to the Santones Gauls, and let me repeat that the Galli transvestites were, in my opinion, proto-Gauls, what the Romans called Galli. Dionysus was the chief priest of the Galli, the whole lot of which was the Kabeiri priesthood. Unfortunately, this sick cult now rules much of the world, but only for the Final Purpose called Hell. End-time queers and lesbians in high places will make war with the people of Jesus, but the fate of Sodom will overpower them.
Caepio Line to Charles MartelThe subtitle above was badly named. It would be better as:
Caepio / Caiaphas line from Hannibal ElementsLet's go back to the "copia" motto term in the Arms of Macclesfield (Cheshire), now that we have evidence that the Caepio bars lead to the Meschins / Gernons of Cheshire. Just trace back to King Massena. That's the short version. But let's do a longer version.
The black fitchee cross of Davenports (East Cheshire) is in another Arms of Macclesfield, and although many Coats use this cross type, it is especially important, as per the discussion above, that Quints use it too. "Fitch" is like the Fette's variation of the Fothes (black chevron). It's important that the Macclesfield fitchees are hanging off of a stag, for Hanna's use both the stag (in the colors of the blue Macclesfield lion) and a black fitchee. It used to be that I traced Hanna's to Hannibal Carthaginians, but when the blue Macclesfield lion was revealed to be a Caepio / Caiaphas line, I became interested in tracing Hanna's to "Annas." I didn't abandon the trace to Hannibal, however, but traced to both he and Annas.
Before getting the Hanna's, let go to the Fetch's/Veitches (black bulls) that I've discovered for the first time only now, so very timely for the Camp / Campbell discussion above. Fetch's may even be a branch of Fessys/Vessys that share the Macclesfield cross. Fetch's are said to be from a Randolph Veitch and "associated with the Grahams." This has the feel of tracing to Ranulph de Gernon, though I'm not ready to see "Graham" as a Gernon variation, yet anyway. Grahams (falcon), in Foot / Fette / Campbell / Meschin colors, use a motto like the that of gyronny-using Campbells... as well as scallops, a Meschin symbol, and these trace to Scylla elements at Messina, important for the Hanna / Massena entities to figure into this discussion. The two mottoes seem to be in honor of Noble's likewise using blue lions (big clue), and then, yes, the French Noble's (in Quint colors) use the black fitchee too, so we are bang-on in all the links being made in this paragraph; it all relates to Quintus Caepio's stash.
If you have not understood, Noble's were merged with Macclesfield elements of the Caepio kind, and then Noble's share a "flaunche" design with Wolfleys, first found in Cheshire. I don't at the moment know what flaunches are code for, if anything. Dutch Noble's use one symbol, as do Dutch Camps, in Dutch-Camp colors.
Have we understood this picture? It's all tracing to a fantastic treasure at Gironde, stolen, and not to be shared with the world by any means, but rather to control the world by a few. The gold Campbell boar head is used by Gordons, and simply due to the Campbell gyronny tracing to the Arms of Gironde, I trace Gordons to the naming of PeriGORD, beside Gironde. Why is there a Jewish Gordon surname? Did Perigord elements name Gironde?
The clan badge of the Gordons is a stag. What is this stag code for? Is it important for the antlers only, or is there more to it? Staggs/Stage's use blue stags (same design as the blue Hanna stags), and even a blue chevron shared by stag-using Hands, who come up as "Hant," a term sometimes used for Hampshire. Rather than the stag being a symbol originally for Staggs, the latter may have been named in honor of the heraldic / mythical stag that figured importantly at some time in history.
I've already seen three reasons (that I won't get into) for tracing this topic to Moroccans, including the Janszoon pirates but further back to Idris of Morocco. He lived in what used to be Numidia, and moreover he was traced to an Iturean peoples in Massyas (beside Emesa) of northern Lebanon of about 100 BC. The namers of Massyas thus became suspect as the place to which the line of King Massena (before 200 BC) should trace in forming the Maccabees. A woman from the Massena line (I think her name was Drusilla) even married the el-Gabal cult of Emesa.
Idris' elements had first of all traced to king Alpin of Pictland / of Scotland, a quasi-mythical character to which the Vere's traced themselves. At the very time that I found this Alpin trace to a most-unexpected place, Alpin was also discovered to be a line from Guido Guerra III. Later, months later, no guff, when I stumbled across Guerin/Garin of Provence (pre-dated Guido Guerra) he was traceable excellently to the Fes elements of Idris of Morocco (Idris' son ruled at Fes/Fez, in Morocco). It was astounding corroboration, and it proved that "Guerra" was from "Guerrin/Garin." I was not going to mention the Morocco topic here at all to spare repeating the many details; suffice it to show that German Stegmans are using three bends in the colors of the Guerra bendy. If the Stegmans are using the Guerra bars, then it helps to trace stag liners to Africa. Italian Guerra's were first found in Tuscany, an area of Italy that reaches up to a Massa location that I will deal with later below.
"Idris I (or Idris ibn Abdullah) was the first ruler and founder of the Idrisid Dynasty, ruling from 788 to 791." Kenneth MacAlpin is a quasi-mythical character that arose shortly after Idris' death (Wikipedia has MacAlpin crowned in 810. The latter was married to Kanza (like "Kenneth"), of a Numidian tribe in Awraba/Aures, where the Shawia lived that became the Shaws of Scotland. Have I got that right? Just see the "Itur" term buried in a Shaw motto.
The Quints use so-called "vair fur" in their Chief. There are two Vair surnames, one being the regular Vere surname (in Quint colors) from KENSington. The Annas star is suspect in the Vere/Vair Coat. It appears that the Vere-Drakenberg trace of this line to Alpin includes the Kensington surname, first found in Kent (Kenneth-like term), where Numidians were settled that included Masseys/Maceys using the Vere/Vair Shield. I have not been able to decipher whether Quint liners named "Kanza." There is an evergreen in the Kensington Crest. It's called a "yew tree," but it sure looks like it was initially a pine as code for Alpins, first found in the same place as MacArthurs and Campbells. Eastons use a yew tree, but it does not look like the Alpin tree. The MacArthur crown design is used by Mathie's (share's gyronny with Campbells), but it's called "an eastern crown," suggesting the Eastons (look like Aeson kin) or the Easts = Este's.
In front of the Alpin pine tree, the red-covered crown is important because the Martels and Capets both showed it for years. houseofnames.com changed the Capet and Martel designs, keeping them identical in the process, but did not change the identical Douglas crown. Kenneths, by the way, use the stag and the flames, the latter indicating kinship with Douglas', expected where Alpins use the Douglas crown design.
It had been my impression that Guerin of Provence (died before 850) was a Vere line to/from the Alpin royals. Guerin's wife, Albane, smacks of "Alpin" or even of "Elvin Princess," the phrase used for the mythical Melusine de Vere of Anjou. Guerin is said by some to be a son of a Gellone surname, which is in Quint colors and moreover shows variations link-able to Julians/Gillians.
The Stegman-Crest description, "A man in armor with his hands on his hips," suggests a trace stag-liner trace to the stag-using Hands once again. The Hips use footless martlets again, and were traced to the Hypsas river (southern Sicily, facing Numidia), otherwise called the Drago, where the Drake's trace (definitely) with the line of Joseph Caiaphas. Later below, I'm going to re-mention (without elaboration) the Hypsas-area trace to a Ceva location in northern Italy, and for this purpose I'd like to re-mention that the Hypsas seemed to trace well to a location on the Illyrian coast to the south of a Cavii peoples. That topic led to the Chive's/Shive's surname that shares a leopard of the same type with the Grant-suspect Grounds (more footless martlets). It just so happens that the Grounds use an engrailed cross of the same type used by Macclesfields, and in colors reversed too.
It just so happens that "Grant" is a Gironde-like term while Grahams are said to be from "Grant(ham)." The "Stand" motto term of Grants gets the Stans tracing to Stenarum near Campbell-suspect Ampelum. Grants use only three crowns, in the design of Campbell-related MacArthurs. The Martels use only three crowns in their Coat too. One can now make the Martel link more-directly to MacArthurs via the Grants.
As Seatons are Flemings while the Grant Crest uses a rock in flames. Did you spot what looks like a version of the Seaton double-tressure border, and Seaton crescents, in the Gordon (Scottish-alternative) Coat? Seatons were first found in the same place (Lothian) as Grahams.
With Martels figuring well now, it's a good time to show the footless martlets (in the colors of the same of Grounds) of the Charlemagne Coat, around a chevron in colors reversed to the Quint chevron! I think you have it right there that the Martel > Charlemagne line was the Caepio line, but linked to the footless entity that included the fitchee cross of Quints as well as that of Macclesfield. This is easy now, by assuming a Martel trace back to Massena elements that named the hammer-depicted Maccabees, and forward to Masseys / Maccabees of Macclesfield. You have your basic premise in this. Irish Charles use the three crowns again.
The Stegman eagle is black, the colors of the personal eagle of Charlemagne. Does this trace Carolingians to the stag symbol in Africa? Since when are stags symbols for Africa?
Here is the Hanna surname with stags potentially in the colors (deliberately) of the Macclesfield lion, for the Macclesfield stags in an alternative Arms of Macclesfield (was showing at Wikipedia) have the black fitchee of the Hanna Crest. The Hanna's are traced in their write-up to a Gilbert of Hannethe of Wigton (not far from Annandale), smacking of the Annas-related Anet / D'Anet / Dent bloodline (see last update for that topic). Shouldn't we expect a Maccabee-of-Macclesfield trace to Annas liners?
As the line of Donnus, father of Cottius, was traced to the Dance/Donnas surname and therefore to the heraldic dancette, see one dancette used by Chettle's of Cheshire, and a colors-reversed version used by German Camps. Neither surname uses anything but their identical dancettes in colors reversed. Can this trace the Caiaphas > Camp line to Cheshire? Yes. Are Chettle's named after Cottians?
If Camp s trace to AMPelum, see that the Amp/Impy surname uses a chevron in the colors of the same of Charlemagne's. The Amps/Impys were even first found in the same place as Quints, suggesting strongly that Amps are using the Quint chevron. The Amps use the Seaton crescents, apparently, because the Amp Crest is the black Keaton leopard "face." Leopard faces are suspect with the Face/Fessy surname (NorthAMPton, same place as Quince's) using the Macclesfield cross. A leopard symbol for Fessys is expected where they are a branch of Fitch's using a fitchee as a symbol of the Boofima cult. The Fitch's/Fitts even use more leopard faces, and share a GOLD chevron with Amps (and Charlemagne's). Fitch's/Fitts were first found in the same place (Suffolk) as English Charles' (Piast eagle?). Are we telling a story here? Somewhere along the course of history, Quints merged with Fitch liners, but as you can see, the bigger story is the Quint / Quince merger with Charlemagne elements.
After I wrote on the "copia" motto term of Macclesfield, Wikipedia removed the Arms and replaced it with the one having the fitchees, but after I stressed those fitchees, that Arms also disappeared from the Macclesfield article. Nor is there a link to any Macclesfield article on the page that brings one to the Arms. Why were both Arms removed? is the Internet running out of room that it could not be kept on the page? Has someone threatened to start a controversy concerning this Arms? I know I have. Here's the stag in the crest of the Arms of East Cheshire, location of Macclesfield, and note the gold garb in both the Arms of Macclesfield and of East Cheshire, symbol of the Comyns and Josephs. It tends to reveal to me that the line of Joseph Caiaphas was in the Conteville-Goz line to Ranulph le Meschin. Why are there three crowns in the center of the East-Cheshire Arms?
I've just found what Wikipedia calls the "second creation" of an Arms of Macclesfield earls, stressing leopards. This is new to me, recalling the leopard of the Mosca/Muscas Coat. The Boofima cult (proto-Baphomet of the Templars) used leopard gloves when conducting its human / goat sacrifices. See Beoufs, first found in PERIgord, for the Boofima priests were part of an ImPERI peoples in Africa.
It appears that the Turnbulls (Roxburghshire) are a part of the Boeuf variations, and their black bulls (color of the Macclesfield fitchee, tool suspect in human sacrifices) may explain the same of the Fetch's/Veitch's. Think about it for a moment, that the Maccabees were from human-sacrifice cultists, what one could expect when God was about to send His Human Sacrifice for to forever cripple the dragon cult with its human sacrifices.
I had suggested that the Tuareg Amazons of north Africa traced to the naming of Turin/Torino (bull symbol), a Turn-like term. In the outskirts of Turin, there is a Chieri location, and it just so happens that the Mosca family of southern Sicily married MonteCHIARO while the Chiaro/Claro/Charo surname uses a bull (this all links to the "charo" motto term of Josephs, first found in the same place as Muscas-using Drakes, who were from the Drago river near Montechiaro).
I had found the Mosca leopard design in a Chives/Shives (obvious branch of the Shaw-related Sheaves) surname that was at a Ceva location to the south of Turin. From the second update of last February: "In light of the emphasis on the Cavii peoples in the next update, the Ceva location on the Tanaro may be Pilate-important. This location may have named the Chiava surname listed with Sheaves'/Chiapponi's...As the other river flowing past Cevo is the Cevetta, it should be noted that Cavetts/Cheve's/Shavo's [Picardy] are in Pilate colors." These are also the colors of the Picard gyronny tracing to the Gironde gyronny, wherefore Ceva is suspect with Quintus Caepio. His ancestry could be in the Cavii.
The next update (3rd of February) found the Chives/Shives, when it was suggested that the blue Cavett/Cheve/Shavo bars should go to those of the Dance/Donnas surname, first found in the same place (Piedmont) as Turin and the Masci's. The latter are important because I can't figure what the "fretty" lattice of the Cotts could stand for if not for Masseys/Maceys of Ferte-Mace, an excellent term for where one might expect Maccabees. It looks like one should expect the Vair-related Fers/Ferrats at Ferte-Mace, and so it may be important that the vair-using Quints have a chevron in the colors of the Ferte eagle.
[This was added in the next update: If the Spocks/Specks (porcupine could be code for Porcius Cato) trace to Cottius, and I think they do, note how their blue-and-white bars reflect those of the Chive's-related Cavetts from Ceva, for this helps to trace Ceva elements to Cottius. The Donnas/Dance coat uses blue bars too, but interspersed with GOLD BARS rather than the SILVER BARS of Spocks and Cavetts. I'm sure that these bars are in a Cave. See the same colors Cato Coat (said to be from "Chetel" suggesting the Chettle dancette and/or the Cattle fret).]
In other words, the Donnus > Cottius family that married Julius Caesar looks like it was a Maccabee line that produced Joseph Caiaphas. To help prove this, the Donnus > Cottius line ruled at Segusa, now Susa (not far up-river from Turin), on the Italian foothills of the Cottians, while Modane is no more than about 25 miles away on the French Cottian foothills. As I always tend to line the Gace location of Normandy to Ferte-Mace, it's interesting that the Washington double bars are used by Ambels/Annabels/Hannibals. The latter are now suspect as Campbell liners, the family that has proven to be fundamental to Quintus Caepio.
With this said, let's go to the "amablis" code in the Annabel write-up, but first let me say that I saw evidence of the stag used in the family of Hamo(n) de Masci of Dunham Masci / Dunham Massey (Cheshire), which should explain the Macclesfield stag and hopefully connect well to the Annabel stag. Later below, you will see why it connects to the Stewart stag, all having to do with a very early time, perhaps pre-dating Merovingians...who had been traced to the Cavii theater.
As "amablis" is said to mean lovable, the Love's/Luffs were looked up to find double bars in the colors the Annabel double bars. The Love/Luff Coat has three bars, but one of them is in the Chief and may be considered separate. In any case, there is a fitchee in the Love/Luff Crest, excellent because the stag lines all with the same Annas-suspect look to them connected with the Hanna's to the fitchee line at Macclesfield. The Love/Luff write-up: "A silver bird on a RED CROSS formée fitchée." It could be code for the Birds/Burds (RED CROSS), important now where the latter use the Bouillon cross in colors reversed, for there is a Bouillon location in Belgium, the location also of Leuven/Louvain, and it just so happens that Louvains (Kent), with several Lov-using variations, are using the Caepio lion in the colors used by Massins/Masons (Kent). This must be the Macclesfield lion, but as Louvain is on the northern part of BRUSSels, the Bruce lion also applies, I am sure, meaning that the naming of Brussels was likely from a Bruce line; it can explain why stag-using Anne's/Hanneys were first found in Yorkshire, and why Bruce's of Yorkshire use a version of the Shield-and-Chief combination of Anne-like Annan(dale)s. In this picture, Ananes Gauls in Brescia can be traced to Brussels, the EU capital.
Do not miss the apparent point that the Love's and Louvains are tracing to Bordeaux, for that's where John of Belgian Gaunt traces. As both the Louvains and Brabants were first found in Kent, along with English Gaunts, it's not likely coincidental that Dutch Ghents share a white-on-blue fesse with Kensingtons, first found in Kent. The Kensington entity was found in the write-up of Vairs/Vere's, sharing not only the Massey Shield but the Hanan Shield. As it was suggested above that Kensingtons trace to Shawia-suspect Kanza of Numidia (wife of Idris), the white scallops, Meschin-scallop color, can help with that trace in that scallops trace to Messina, the place suspect in naming king Massena. In this picture, Gaunt/Ghent of Belgium (downtown Flanders) traces tentatively to Kanza. Reminder: Kenneths use flames.
Guerin of Provence, by the way, suspect with the Kenneth / Kensington line, was a count of Macon, a term listed with Massins/Masons.
I've been wanting to stress that Numidians in southern France had owned the gold bars at some point before Quintus found them. Hannibal took an incredibly long route, through southern France, in getting to the Trebia, and perhaps it was for securing the gold with which he was able to pay his armies under very difficult circumstances. Hannibal was seeking to topple all of Italy, no cheap effort.
White scallops (Kensington symbol) are shared by a Rothschild Coat and by Russells, likely from Roussillon, where one can expect the golden-fleece gold (pre-dated Numidia) if in fact it was gold. From Roussillon, it would be natural to get it to Toulouse. On my atlas, Roussillon proper does not reach north to Rodez, where Bouillons were first found, but is on the south side of the Garonne river in the area of billet-using Roquefeuil. An Aude area sits in Roussillon, and then the Aude's (in Gironde / Ottone colors) are said to have been first found in Savoy. Aude's are said to be from an Audeville location, but when I couldn't find one in Savoy, I found one in Loiret.
This Audeville location is in a wider Pithiviers area that uses thistles in its Arms, a symbol in the Alpin Crest, thus indicating the possibility that Kenneths and Kensingtons were in Aude. In fact, Pollocks were of Foix-Candale, suggesting links to the Ghent / Kensington entity, and Pollocks (I traced them as Fullers to Roquefeuil) use a motto honoring the Aude's. Pollocks even lived in Paisley while the Paisley surname (in Kensington colors) shares the blue thistle with Alpins. As Spears (two-crossed spears) were likewise first found in Renfrewshire, Paisleys should trace to the two crossed spears in the Italian Pace/Pascel/Pacenti surname (Paisley colors), first found in Bologna, the area of Guido Guerra's i.e. that I traced to the Kenneth MacAlpin line. Although the Spear boars could be the Pollock boar, the Spear boars show only heads, and could thus be the Gordon boar head, the idea being that Spears and Pollocks were hooked up with a Gordon line out of the Perigord / Gironde area.
Why would Loiret (location of Audeville) be important in this picture? Orleans is in Loiret, which is loosely where I trace the Rutherford / Rutland "orle," wherefore note that Pollocks were of Maxwells (Macclesfield suspects), who lived in Maxton, where Rutherfords are said to have lived. Secondly, orle liners include the Orrs (kin or Orrels), first found in the same place (Renfrewshire) as Paisleys and Pollocks. Can Ruther and Rut terms trace to Roussillon / Rodez elements? YES. And Russells were first found in Dorset while Quints were first found in Essex and Dorset.
After writing the above, the Saunier surname (Perigord) was looked up because I recalled that it uses Spear colors, and there in the Saunier Chief were the white-on-blue roses of the Paisley Chief!!!
RENfrew traces to Wrens and to "Rennes," and so Renfrew elements are expected at Rennes-le-Chateau. Rennes in Brittany is in the same area as Dol, where the Pollock ancestor (Fulbert "the Saxon") had connections at least, though he may have lived in Dol. he was a friend (historical fact) of the Dol Alans that moved from Shropshire to Renfrew (historical fact). The Saxon surname (Lancashire), looking like a version of the Orrel Coat (Lancashire), has a suspicious SEPTon surname listed with it, very revealing because Rennes-le-Chateau was in Septimania. The latter area may have included Foix, where a de-Pol lived.
I think I have just revealed that the Saxons/Septons are from Fulbert "the Saxon." The surname uses scarlet ANNulets.
We are making a lot of sense of Illuminati-Land in this gold-bar picture, and it happens to include lines from Caiaphas, Annas, and Maccabees. Who would have thought? We realize that the 50,000 gold bars were not airlifted by plane to the inland area of Toulouse. They had to come from some sea coast. Either they were being shipped from the Atlantic at Gironde down toward Roussillon, or vice versa. The only other alternative is from local gold mines, but can gold mines from one area produce that much gold? It makes more sense that this was an accumulation of gold stolen by a long period of warfare by a super-power...like the Carthaginians.
Here's from the last update:
Rennes-le-Chateau is likely named after Rennes of Brittany, in the same part of Brittany as Dol, a term like "Toulouse." The Voirs/Voyers of Brittany are suspect from BOYERs, and the Cimmerians that fought against Quintus Caepio at Orange included one ruler, BOIORix. I had read that the area at Rennes-le-Chateau was "Aereda," much like Haeredaland / Hirota in Norway, what I traced via viking invaders to the naming of Erethlyn in Wales. Voirs/Voyers are said to have lived in Gripel, evoking Herod Agrippa. Compare "Herod " to "Aerada / Haeredaland."That's important because Herod Antipas was banished to the Toulouse area. If the Herods and other rulers of Israel in Jesus' day were from Carthaginians to begin with, they could have known where the gold bars were stashed. There is an ANTIBES location (pre-Christian times) on the sea coast (not very far from the mouth of the Rhodanus) that may have named, ANTIPAS.
The Voirs/Voyers were first found also in Penhoet, which is at the Morbihan area of Brittany, the area also of Vannes, what I see a s King Arthur's "wife," though she (GuineVERE) apparently included the Vere's. The PENhoet location is a good example of how Pendragons were Merovingians if I'm correct in tracing mythical Merovee / Merovech to "Morbihan" (Merovingians claimed to be from Veneti, and Vannes was named by Veneti). It's the Burd-related Carlysle's that use a "pen" in their Crest. Does this speak of a trace of the gold bars from Bordeaux to Vannes? Very much, if Boiorix was of the Voirs/Voyers of that place. It suggests that, after Boiorix defeated Quintus Caepio, he got at least some of the gold bars back, and removed to the Vannes area. Later, it can be gleaned, the proto-Merovingians (often traced to Septimania) arose from the Penhoet area, very possibly from the Boiorix line, which may explain why Childeric's tomb was found filled with gold bees. "BOIO" may have produced a bee symbol. Pollocks are traced by other to Clovis, son of Childeric. Clovis was born, Chlodovech, and so note that one Cimmerian leader in league with Boiorix was Claodicus.
Please do gawk at the vair pattern, in the colors of the Quint vair, in the Boyer/Bowyer Coat, of a surname looking like the makings of the Bower / Bauer bloodline to Rothschilds. Does this shared vair mean that the Boiorix line formed a partnership with the Caepio line for the sake of hoarding the gold together? French Boyers (Languedoc, in Roque colors) even use the upright-bull design of Charo's/Claro's (!), if that helps to clinch the latter's identification of Joseph Caiaphas with the line of Quintus Caepio. The Boyer bull is in the colors of the identical Boso(n) bull.
The bell pattern of the vair fur suggests Bellamy elements, and this can speak to the Ferte-Mace elements fundamental to the Donnus > Cottius line to Caiaphas. As I traced Bellamy's to Bellovesus, a Gaul king that invaded northern Italy with massive support that brought the Laevi to the Ticino and the Ananes to the Po, note that while his brother was SEGovesus, Donnus' house ruled at Segusio.
The Danets came up in the last update with the Shaw-suspect Dents, and the Danets were found to use the Shaw/Sheaves ermine, for which reason "Anet," where these surnames seemingly traced, was suspect with "Annas." The Donnas surname itself is also "D'Ance. Like the Fetch's/Veitche's, the Dents use "INDUStry," a term tracing to Sintians at Lemnos, and then the leopard skin was a Dionysus symbol (he wore leopard skins in his war at India). The Lemnites at Limousin are not far from Perigord, you see. Dionysus had a dancing symbol (see Maenads), which can explain the Dance variation of the Dionysus-like Donnas surname. The Dennis surname (the Chettle fesse?) is even said to be from "Dionysus."
I suspected that the Boofima leopard gloves were symbolized in leopard / lion paws, and it just so happens that the Quint fitchee is held by a lion paw. I say that this Boofima cult was in the Mosca surname that is itself represented in the leopards of the Arms of Macclesfields Earls. The Boofima cult was traced to Bavarians, and as they are thought to be founded by the Boii, perhaps the Boiorix line applies. Why is vair called a "fur," and why is it spotted? Does the Boofima leopard apply? If Bellamy's were from a Baal cult transitioning to the Celtic Bel cult, then note that Baal was a human-sacrifice cult too. The only other heraldic fur is the ermine fur, from Vannes in Brittany.
This Childeric is at the Child/Chill surname, I am sure, suspect at Chillingham, where the Keep-related HEPburns are said to have lived. As this was 100-percent the Trypillian-of-Kiev line, let's ask whether the Caiaphas / Chives line at Ceva was the earlier proto-Kiev line. The Chives share a black moline cross with the Moline surname known to be from Fulbert "the tanner," where I trace Fulbert "the Saxon." Ceva is on the Tanaro river, you see, and I traced Merovingians to the Salyes Ligures, at Saluzzo, for one, near the Tanaro. Therefore, the "tanner" of Falaise is suspect as a Ceva line, but also as a RoqueFEUIL line, suggesting a Ceva connection to Roquefeuil. The Fallis surnames (Roque colors) even use the Rockefeller trefoils, while the Italian Fallis surname (Este colors) was first found in the land of the Veneti, location also of Este. English Este's (suspect with Asti on the Tanaro), first found in the same place as Quints (ancestry suspect from Ceva), use "J'vance" for a full motto while the Spears, traceable to the Pace's (first found near the Este's and Fallis'), use "Advance" as the full motto. Merovingians, to whom I traced the Este's, had a spear-in-the-eye symbol.
VITAL: the Vance's were first found in the same place (East Lothian) as red-crescent Seatons, and these are the colors of the Spree and Spear crescents. The Bologne location where Spear-related Pace's were first found is where the Setta valley is to which I traced Seatons (envisioned in a partnership with Guido Guerra). Then, the Spree Coat uses an hourglass Shield in the colors reversed from the same of Guido's (Bologna)! It is made clear here that Spears were from Guido Guerra and Guerin of Provence.
The English Boyers (definitely related to Quince's) use a "passe" motto term that gets the Pascals while the Pace's show a Pascel variation. Boyars (with an 'a') are listed with Briars/Brayers (Annandale colors), and are apparently using the Rome/Room Shield because both surnames were first found in Dumfries...where I trace the Ananes > Annandale line. As Bray is near Rouen, it argues for a Rome/Room trace to Roman elements suspect at Rouen. Note that Brays use black eagle talons, symbol of the Augusts that share the Rome/Room and Boyar/Brayer fesse. The "Flax breaker" in the Bray Crest suggests that Brake's/Brechs are a Bray branch. Brake's/Brechs have a chevron in colors reversed to the Quint chevron, and were first found in the same place as Bellamys suspect in the Quint vair.
THEN, Bruges'/Bruggs (Brake/Brech colors), suspect from Bruges, Belgium, were first found in the same place (Buckinghamshire) as Boyers/Bowyers.
I learned as a fact that the Massi/Mattis surname was named after Massa (at Carrara), to be mentioned later below in regards to a king-Massena line here. The point here is that the Massi/Mattis Coat shares blue-and-white checks with the Fers/Ferrats while Guido Guerra III married Montferrat. It could indicate that Numidians were at Montferrat (a new thing for me right here and now), especially as Ferte-Mace was home to Masseys/Maceys and Maceys. Guido married a granddaughter of Rainier/Renier of Montferrat, and this surname was gleaned to be, not only connected to the Reno surname because the Setta is a Reno tributary, but part of the Raines surname using the Coat of MacAbee-related Newmans, suspect from NUMidians. MOREOVER, while Wrens are said to be from the Raines' and from "Rennes," we again see cause for a Guido-Guerra trace to Spears and Paisleys of RENfrew.
It suggests that Renfrew traces all the way back to Reno-river elements, but not without merging with Numidians of the Newman - MacAbee kind. To help prove that Renfrew elements traces to Numidians at the war of Trebia, Wrens share purple lions with Meschin-related Skiptons, and can thus trace to the Roman general, Scipio (lost the war of Trebia to Hannibal and his Numidian cavalry), with whom king Massena made an alliance.
We are learning something today. The Fers/Ferrats share a Shield filled with checks with the Vairs/Fers' suspect in the Quint Chief. It is notable that the Vaux surname uses a Shield filled with checks too, for the Vance's above are also "Vaux." Vance's are suspect at Vannes, the area where the Boiorix liners are now expected with some gold treasure. The Vannes surname is listed with the Ness surname suspect with Nassau elements at Orange, where Boiorix fought and won his war against Caepio. The Vannes/Ness Coat (Vance colors) uses nothing but the double red-on-white bars of the Annabel/Hannibal Coat.
The Vance motto is "BE faithful," perhaps play on the Boiorix bee symbol. The Boyer-suspect Boys use bees, and these Boys were first found in Berwickshire, a city of the Bernicians to whom I trace the Pepin Merovingians whom use the Este horses and an "est" motto term, important here because it's the Este's using a "J'VANCE" motto. It looks again as though Boiorix was ancestral to Merovingians, and one can certainly trace him to the Boii of Bologna (the Boii conquered Bologna very near the time of the war of Trebia). Can MaccaBAEUS come out of this Vance picture?
The Faithful/Feythful/Faith surname ("A crane perched" can trace to Trypillia in the UKRAINe) was first found in the same place (Norfolk) as Annabels/Hannibals. German Faiths, who may be using the Guerra bendy, look like a branch of Veitches/Fetch's / Fitch's/Fitts / etc.
The Vance Crest is stacked with code: "A lion rampant gold, gorged with a collar red and holding in the dexter paw a pair of balances proper." Dexters use a pair of balances that they call "weights" as code for the Traby-suspect Weights. Shouldn't Trabys trace to "Trebia" along with other Trypillians. Could we expect Trypillians at Ceva at that early time to explain why Varangians later settled Kiev, smack beside Trypillia? The Varangians are suspect with the Varns using the Gripp and ShakeSPEARe bend, and the Gripps may trace to Gripel, location of Voirs/Voyers expected at Vannes / Morbihan. The Guerra's use a wyVERN, suspect with the Varni in the Trip theater.
The Trebia is a tributary of the Po, previously called, Bodencus, smacking of the Budini on the south side of Kiev. Trypillians were on the Po, definitely, which starts in the land of the Veneti, suspect with "Venus," thus identifying the Trypillian goddess with an Aphrodite > Venus line of Heneti. The Venus surname (Kent, where Flanders elements lived) use a stag in relation to "venison," which in my opinion reveals that venison was named after the Venus stag symbol...meaning that the stag was very fundamental to the Veneti. I once argued that "ANTler" was code for mythical ANTenor, a Heneti-Trojan ruler and founder of the Veneti). As the PLANT(agenet)s, both Coats of whom can be suspect with Panico's on the Setta, use a stag, it argues for a FLANDers link to Trypillians, and we may now trace Flanders ancestry as proto-Plants in to the Setta theater, noting that Seatons of the Setta are from Flanders elements. The BROWN Venus stag will be traced to Brunswick-Luneburg (an Este affiliation), noting that Luneburg is at Hamburg, where Trips were first found.
Therefore, as Annabels use the stag as well as the Vannes/Ness bars, the stags of Hanna's, Hands and Anne's are now tracing to Venus and the Trypillians. This works for tracing to the Magyar / Arpad Hungarians because they were from the Carpi...in the land of Trypillians. The Carpenters use bars in the colors of the Annabel bars, and for this cause the "bel" in "Annabel" could be for the Carpenter-related Belli's (red-stag Plants use a "laBEL"), suspect as Abello = Apollo liners (= Carpi kin) in the Setta theater. I had traced proto-Arpads to the Ticino river (Po tributary, home of Laevi Gauls suspect with ancient Levites), and therefore to the Decks/Daggers, wherefore the Dexters/Decksters (kin of Traby-suspect Weights) may be of the Ticino river.
It appears to me, in this picture, that Trypillian off the Trebia got merged with Numidians, possibly explaining why the Siret river of Trypillians smacks of Certa, the Numidian capital. But the Trypillians had been either suspect as, or merged with, the golden-fleece Colchians, and so the Trypillians may have brought the golden-fleece gold to northern Italy. The Argonautica has the Argo ship sailing up the Po after sailing past the Moldava theater. Remember, the Tools use the Strange lion while I traced Strange's (said to be from Guido le Strange) to Trypillians at the Setta, Then, the proto-Tools (Attila's house of Dulo?) may have named Toulouse, thus tracing the Trypillian gold to that place.
The English Charles' use a split Shield and symbol in colors reversed from the same of Decks/Daggers, indicating a Carolingian trace to the Ticino. As Carolingians were half Pepins, this speaks of my trace of proto-Pepins to "Papia," otherwise known as Pavia, a Ticino-river city known to be founded together by Laevi and Marsi-suspect Marici peoples that I see in "Mercia: (Bernician theater). In this picture, the ANGUSta elements (see last update) of the Siret river that were suspect with the Marsi snake goddess may trace to the Ticino, the area of the INSubres, whom I have tentatively traced to the Ince's and green-snake Innis', and may therefore trace to Innus = Angus elements. The Insubres may have been the Ananes Gauls, expected in an alliance with the Laevi.
But with Charles Martel now tracing back in time to the namers of Pavia, it can expect that the namers included the line of Quintus Caepio, which is to say that he was somehow involved with Trypillians or other peoples from the Moldova theater. For example, the Ixion Lapiths were in Moldova, and the descendant(s) of Quintus Caepio married a Lepidus surname. In fact, I see Joseph Caiaphas born from the Caepionis marriage to Lepidus.
The "honores" motto term of English Charles may be for the stag-using Honors, listed with Conan-suspect Honans, convincing because Cone's and Conte's use only antlers while Honors/Honans show nothing but stags in both Coat and Crest. The Veringer / Zahringen antler had been traced to Spree-Neisse in Lusatia, where I trace the Speers (i.e. to the Spree river of Lusatia), and as that's where the Spears must go, it speaks of the "sperno" motto term of Honors/Honans. In this picture, though I can't even guess at the timing, the Guido-Spree merger traces to the Spree. The Traby's, a Polish surname, may have been of a Trypillian migration from the Trebia to Lusatia (Polish border area). I Now identify Melusine (snake woman sometimes shown with a fish tail) as a Lapith-liner entity on the Siret -- i.e. as the proto-Angitia snake cult of the Marsi at Angusta -- but in years gone by, she has been identified as a Lusatia and Lusignan entity involved in the formation of Scotts proper at Kenneth MacAlpin.
The formation of Scotts involved Mackays of Moray, who lived in Sutherland. I identified Mackays with Mieszko Poles. The Vance's use the Sutherland stars, apparently, and SUTHERlands are suspect as a Shuter / Suter line of Shutz'. As the Spear motto is "AdVANCE," it tends to trace them to this Vance-Sutherland entity suspect from the Spree river, which can evoke Sutherland affiliations with Sitlers/Schitners of the Lusatia area, likely Trypillian liners. I have also shown many times how the Haughts (share the bull with Mieske's), suspect with Sigrid the Haughty (Mieszko's daughter), use the Arms of Trebizond Empire in colors reversed. The Trabys (hunting horns in Mieske-bull colors) are therefore suspect in an alliance with Mieszko's, and Poland's naming of Masovia (near Traby) can go back to a king Massena relationship with Trebia peoples. Massa is not far from the sources of the Trebia.
Exploring Cottius Links to Massena NumidiansLet's go back to the Donnus > Cottius bloodline suspect fundamentally with Masci's > Masseys. Let's assume that the leopard-using Mosca surname in the Chives family at Ceva was the directly-related branch to the Cottius > Caesar-Caepio > Caiaphas line. The chevron in the Arms of the Macclefield Earls is colors-reversed from the Quint chevron, and Quints share a fitchee with Macclesfield. Quinns share a pegasus with Masseys/Maceys (same place as Macclesfield). The Mosca's are honored in the Drake motto that uses "captat," and the Drake motto also traces to Abruzzo, where Presleys trace that were showing the same symbol as Kerricks, It just so happens that the Prestbury location that Kerricks are said to be from is in East Cheshire (location of Macclesfield). The Abreu's use two lions that I insist became the two leopards in the Arms of Normandy, and later the three lions in the Arms of (Norman) England. But why did the Normans turn these lions in leopards?
Or, why didn't England keep them leopards when it added a third to the Norman leopards? The Meschins under the first Norman kings of England betrayed them, and, after a failed attempt at the Norman-England throne, Meschins fled to Scotland with proto-Stewart Alans, Pollocks, and others we may assume, including Maxwells/Makeswells suspect at Macclesfield, then called. Makeslesfield. The Bruces of Yorkshire went to Annandale. Why? Weren't they Abreu liners? Yes, and Bruces were using the Massin/Mason lion, were they not? Therefore, while Normandy's rulers adopted the two lions of Abreu's (whatever they were called back then) at Evreux, they could have turned them into leopards to honor the Mosca > Meschin > Macclesfield line, while England rejected the leopards due to the betrayal of le Meschin. It can be argued that the Meschins in Scotland were represented my Mussels/Muscels at Musselburgh, and Maceys of Cheshire were the Mackays of Scotland.
The Fitch surname, by the way, uses leopards. Gernons had been from MontFiquet, otherwise called, MontFITCHet, but as yet I do not know whether le Meschin was the one who gave his son the Gernon surname, or whether the son adopted it on his own. One can possibly link le Meschin to a leopard line by way of a Meschin link to Montfitchets, for the latter are also shown as MUSCHATs, suggesting the Mosca's/Muscas'. The way to link Meschins to Gironde elements is by way of John of Gaunt at Candale, for Maceys use "gauntlet" gloves. I've just realized that Montfitchets were first found in the same place (Essex) as fitchee-using Quints!
One way to link Meschins to Mieszko Poles (there are numerous ways) is as per the antelope design of this alternative Muskat/Mousquette family, the design also of Wheelwrights. If the antelope is changed to a stag, the Muskat Coat could become the Annabel/Hannibal Coat.
Perhaps the TRIPle chevrons of Montfitchets/Muschats is part-code for the Trips (use the crosslets of Gore's, likewise first found in Essex). In the last update, the Trips were linked to the Trists without doubt, and then Trist-suspect Tresure's are the ones linking to Double's/Dobels. A Trusesti location near the Prut was found in the last update. Aha! A Truss surname (Yorkshire, same place as Anne's/Hanneys) uses a "label" in chief, suspect as LaBels, while Double's show as "DuBel"! The Truss surname is also "TrussBOT/Trussbutt/ect, and Trusesti is in BOTOsani. The Trist lines are suspect with Varangians of Kiev (see last update for that story), and so one could expect the Triss lines to be allied with Trypillia (beside Kiev).
MY MY MY, MR. Sheetz, I missed the following in the last update. While on the Kiev-Trist topic, I mentioned the Hepburn-related Keeps as a Kiev line (without doubt now), and missed realizing that the "weavers SHUTtle" of the Keep Crest is code for the Shutz surname! See the Shuttleworth/Shettleworth surname (bear) using weaver's shuttle's. They are said to be from a Suttelworth location, but Suttels come up as Sewers/Shuters (escutcheon, fitchees! and a leopard in Crest). The Subtle surname is listed with Settle's/Settels, first found in the same place (Lancashire) as Shuttleworths and Scute's.
I expect Weavers from the namers of Kiev, and so I would like to see if they trace to Ceva in some ways. Recall that Cavetts/Chavo's were a Ceva branch, and that this Ceva location was expected to be fundamental to the Cottius > Caiaphas line. The Cave's (in Cavett/Chavo colors) share the fretty lattice with Cotts, if that helps to make that argument, but Cave's were first found in the same place as Settle's and weaver-honoring Shuttleworths! AND SURPRISE!!! The Cave's share a black greyhound in Crest with the Shutz'!!! See also the black wolf in the Mussel/Muscel Crest.
The Cave's are said to have been Anglo-Saxons in Britain prior to the Norman invasion, tending to trace them to the Varni / Hamburg theater (where Angles and Saxons originated about 350 AD).
Aha! While wondering whether the Weaver Coat is a version of the Boyer Coat (very important for Weaver links to Boiorix), it was read that weavers are from a "Le WEVERE" entity, reminding me of Drago de BEVERE in the Blade write-up (Blade's are suspect with the Pilate pheons) The BLACK talbot dog in the Blade Crest can therefore link to the black Shutz / Cave greyhound. Let's not forget that Scutz-related Scotts use versions of two talbot Coats. "Drago" can trace to the Drago-river Drake's using the "muscas" motto term, and it's the Muscas leopard that's in the Coat of Cave-related Chives. This is the second time that Weavers have traced to Ceva, and not the first time that Weavers have linked well to Sadducee-suspect Shutz'.
Let me draw a picture starting with the Varni of the first and second centuries AD whom I suspected had lines of the chief priests of Israel amongst them, lines that had become merged with Trypillians of northern Italy, and proto-Alans there, likely the Roxolani. The Varni lived at the southern end of Denmark, and that Demark peninsula had also been the home of Cimbrians that Boiorix had ruled in about 100 BC. Both the Varns and Boyers use a bend on a gold Shield, but rather than a black bend as used by Varns, Boyers use vair fur in their bend. Let's assume that the Varni became merged with Boiorix Cimbrians, and let's assume further that Boiorix' knew that his gold stash was from the Trypillian-Colchians as they moved west past Istria and into northern Italy. Later, when the Varni-Boiorix merger evolved into Varangians, they went to Kiev to assist their kin in some sort of struggle that called them over, as the historical; report imply / claim. This is creating a reason for the distant migration of Sweden's Varangians (about 850 AD) to Kiev.
I'm going to assume that some Varangians lived at Vrancea of Moldava, and merged with Scutz liners there, and then returned to Normandy to name Avrances, explaining why the D'Avrances family of Cheshire had a wolf symbol, the symbol of Moldova. Weavers (Cheshire, Cheshire garbs) are in Traby colors, and look like a branch of Cheshire's Hazels = Heslington liners from Sewer-suspect Siward of Northumberland (named by Cimbrians). Sewers are listed with Shuters. The Weaver Crest is another antelope with "the dexter foot [why not "hoof"?] on a gold shield," the color of the Foot / Fothes/Fette Shield, themselves in the two colors of the Varn Coat. A small gold Shield is used by Scute's too (using "deer' in place of antelopes).
Dexters are Traby kin if the Weights are, and in fact the Dexter weight balances are a symbol of Vilnius, where Trabys had joined the Astika's. This Vilnius line was joined also to the Sire/SIRET surname, and Dexters use the squirrel of the SHIRE's/Squirrels...suggesting that Siret elements were on the Ticino with Dexters. Trabys and Dexters in high places at certain junctions of history have both been identified (by me) as 666-loving liners, Illuminatist material, and Weights trace to the Uat all-seeing-eye cult.
The Meschins who took Chester over from the D'Avrances' went to Musselburgh, exactly where Faucets (use the Schuts/Schit and Schitner lion) lived who trace to Focsani in the Vrancea area of Moldava. Couldn't this be explained where Trypillians on/off the Trebia met the Mosca's at the Ceva theater? The Shutz/Schutz liners included the Seatons/Sittens of the Sitna river, and they too settled the Musselburgh area. The picture is making sense, and so while gleaning that Meschins / Mosca's were involved at Ceva, here we have Weavers tracing to Meschins in Cheshire, as well as to the Swietoslawa > Siward line from Mieszko. Why are Weavers/Webers said to be Flemish? Ask the Fleming wolf suspect in the last update with a Roman location on the Siret very near to the mouth of the Moldava river.
Or, ask the Fleming double tressure, for English Webers, using an escutcheon and Scutz colors, were first found in the same place (Somerset) as Tresure's. Double's/Dubels are suspect with Bellamy's of Perche (Perche's use a double chevron) that ought to link with Percivals (i.e. likewise of Somerset) sharing a black bear in Crest with Shuttleworths. The Percival bear is muzzled (see Alis description for the "muzzle" term) and thus suggests the Mussels/Muscels.
The Percival patees are likely linked closely to the same-colored ones of Massena's, but as Percival was the "grail king," I would suggest Percival / Pierce links to the Shawia-Numidian line to Scottish Shaws (grails), who passed through Ceva, right? Ask the "qui" motto term of English Shaws/Sheaves, a term tracing to the key symbol of Sheaves/Chiapponi's/Chiava's.
Meschins of Skipton relations used "Alis" for their daughters, important below in a king Massena / Scipio discussion. German Weavers/Webers use a "segne" motto term that gets the Segni/SEGURano surname, first found in Genoa at the source of the Trebia river! Related Seagars were first found in the same place (Norfolk) as Double's. MOREOVER, as Ceva / Cave elements are tracing to Segusio's Cottian rulers, ZOWIE, the Seagars, in Cave colors, should apply to Segusio BECAUSE SEAGARS SHARE A MOLINE CROSS WITH CHIVES!!!
Speculation: wherever Seagars trace, ditto for the Donnus > Cottius line. Evidence: Seagars traced to Justine of Picinum, and Seagar" is suspect in "Siward / Sigurd / Sigrid." Siward of Northumberland was related through Sigrid the Haughty to Tosti, and while Tosts share the Massena / Sched patee (same colors), "Toste" gets the Tafts/Toffs while Taffeys/Taffe's (Mieske arm-and-sword) share fretty lattice with Cotts. But the Taffey fretty is in colors reversed to the Cave fretty!
The PRAElucent motto term of English Webers suggests the Prey-related Prude's (i.e. Prut suspects) and the Spanish Lucent surname using Zionist stars in the colors of the same of Moldova-suspect Hagars and Goths. Prude's are the ones using lampPREY fish, and then the Luce's (in Double colors, first found in Norfolk as with Double's and Seagars) use fish too. The Luce fish are known to be the Geddy pikes, and then the Percivals may be sharing the Pek/Peck patee. As the Pek river was in Moesia, it can explain why Massena's use the same-colored patee. In the same way that Siret-river elements ended up in Numidia's Certa capital, Pek-river elements (at Cuppae) to Caiaphas may have gone to king Massena. The Geddes traced to a Geta family of north-Africa, suspect with Getuli Numidians, that put emperors on the Roman throne prior to 200 BC, and these emperors include Caracalla, who traced to the fish-using Saraca's, but also to the Carricks (dancette, suspect with Donnus) sharing a black talbot with Blade's. As the latter family was of a Drago de Beware, let me re-mention (from several months ago, if not more than a year) that the Craigs, said to be at the root of Carricks, traced to an old variation of "Agrigento," the city in southern Sicily at the mouth of the Drago river. The Beware-suspect Webers who started this paragraph have got us right back to the area where a Mosca family married Montechiaro (east of Agrigento), the line tracing to Ceva! It's suggesting that Drago-river elements were in the Ceva line to Shaws, the latter first found in the same place as Siret-based Hagars.
Aha! French Luce's (Picardy) use the TRIPLE chevrons in the colors of the same of MontFitchets. Lacys were Skipton kin, and Lacys share the purple lion with Spanish Luz'/Lucero's...suspect with Spanish Lucents, and if correct, traces them to the PraeLucent motto term of Webers. We are right back with Skiptons to the Scipio-Massena merger. Triple chevrons in colors reversed from those of Luce's are used by Singletarys, and they share the antelope with Webers. The Singletary antelope design is that of the Montfitchets. If the antelope is another symbol for Antenor lines to the Veneti, note that Este is in the land of the Veneti.
Skits/Skeochs and Scheds were traced tentatively to a Schio location about 50 miles or less from Este (in Padova), perhaps important for linking Weavers/Webers to Scutz's yet again, for Webers use an "Esto" motto term. As the Webbs use a red "rising" eagle in Crest, which I interpret as the Phoenix trace-able with the Tarents/Tarans to Lake Van's Tarun (or was it "Turan") = Mus location, it's possible that Webbs were of the Nairi at Lake Van, whom I see as the Neuri in the Ukraine. It is my hunch that the Varangians (Sweden) went to Kiev in the first place when the Neuri called for their assistance, suggesting old cousins. The Neuri were on the Bug river(s) (through L'viv theater), and then the English Bug surname uses "water bougets," while the Waters use the same triple chevron as seen above, trace-able to the same in the Arms of Eure-et-Loir. I believe that "bouget" is code for Bouchard II of Montmorency.
As the Neuri worshiped the wolf, the "fidelis" motto term of Weavers/Webers can be for the wolf-using Fiddle's/FIDElows (from Vis-de-Loop). The black Norry wolf can apply to the black Scutz greyhound. The German Loops use a greyhound, and were from Holstein i.e. the Hamburg theater of Trips. Could the Weaver/Weber anteLOPE apply? Are heraldic antelope's a combination of Heneti and Vis-de-Loop elements? The Traby-suspect Darbys use another antelope. See the black-on-gold wolves of Spanish Lope's, perhaps connectable to the black-and-gold Scutz greyhound. The Guelph / Welf line of Este's looks rather stark here, especially as the Este eagle went to the Bars / Baars of Brunswick.
The Boyds (Alan kin), said to be named after their blonde hair, trace to the Budini, with blonde hair according to Herodotus. The Boyds use a "ConFIDO" motto term. However, "Fido" gets the Fothes/Fette's (cornuCOPIA) with Fittes variation, first found in the same place as Norry's. It really looks like a Neuri-Budini partnership. This could indicate that Foots and Fothes/Fette's were Vis-de-Loop elements (the Fiddle write-up calls it "Vis-de-Lou" at Normandy). If so, I need to repeat that I traced Vis-de-Loop to "Visconti," but the proto-Visconti's that I envisioned were merged with Alans and their Trypillian / Strange kin; this group or merger was traced to rulers of Brunswick-Luneburg en router to Vis-de-Loop, and so it should be added that Luneburg is on the south side of Hamburg.
If correct to trace the Neuri to Nahorites while identifying Budini with Nahor's second son, Buz, consider whether these tribes were with the Campbells/Cammells, for I traced "Cammell" to Nahor's third son, Kemuel. This trace does not necessarily discredit a "Campbell" trace to ABELLinum at CAMPania, for word games could have created that combination. The wolf-liner Hirpini at Abellinum may have been a Neuri entity, you see. The point is, were Nahorites involved in the Caepio gold bars as per Campbells and Camps being connected to the treasure? Reminder: Camps use a version of the English Capone Coat while Italian Capone's were first found beside Campania.
Aha! As I traced "Campania" to "Champagne" due to an Avallon location (a real one) on the south side of Champagne, note that the Champagne's use a Shield filled with vair fur, the Quint symbol! I've read that Boyds named Bute, but in any case they trace to Bute, what I identified as mythical Avalon many years before knowing that Boyds were Budini liners, or that they were at Bute with their Stewart kin. If I'm correct to trace the Varni goddess, Nerthus, to Neuri elements, then it's very Neuri-interesting that a Neretva river is near Butua (now Budva). This location is near a Bar location known by me to trace to the Este-related Bars at Bar-le-Duc (fish, as with German Boets/Bute's/Butts). As a Daorsi peoples lived at Neretva, the two entities can be identified with the mythical fish, the Nereids, from Nereus, husband of Doris. The Doarsi may therefore trace to Dorset, where the Caepio's were first found. If that's correct, then the Caepio treasure does seem to have touched the Nahorites.
As Butua was named after the Cadmus Boeotians/BOIOtians (because Cadmus and his wife left Greece to live at Butua), there are two points to make: 1) the Boet/Bute surname using a fish smacks of the house of Boet(h)us of the Sadducees, but it also smacks of "Boeotia"; 2) the Boiotians smack of BOIOrix. It just so happens that the Cavii lived to the near-south of Butua. The Cavii are on the map below, at the extreme left side, to the south of a lake SCODra, and Butua, on this other map, is to the near-north of lake Scodra. Bar, if I recall, is on the sea coast directly across from Scodra:
http://www.tribwatch.com/mapAncientIllyrium.jpgNote the Lissus location at the Cavii coast, for the Lys/Lise Coat shares the greyhound with the Shutz/Schutz Crest. Note the Mathis river on the south side of the Cavii (Cavii not shown on this map), for Mathie's share the gyronny with Campbells as well as using the MacArthur crown. Note Gabeleum smack in the land of the Cavii, a term that could have been "Kemuel" on it's way to forming "Cammell." The El-Gabal cult at Emesa and Arthur-like Arethusa was ruled by IAMBLichus and SAMPsiceramus, terms that could be Campbell liners, perhaps tracing to "Ampelum" and "Arutela."
Recall that the Candale area traced to Carlysle's using a pen, for up-river from the Cavii is a PENEStae and a Candavii location. The Candavii mountains appear named by the Heneti Centaurs because the area is beside the Parthini (like the Parthenius river of the Heneti). As Centaurs belonged to Ixion, the Lapith, see the Pelagonia location (at Lychnidus) suspect with the Lapith, PHLEGyas.
The Weavers and Webers, because they linked to Ceva, may or may not trace to these Illyrian parts, but I am now convinced that the Weavers merged with Cavii elements at some point. The Weber antelope can trace to the Heneti suspect in these parts. The Schutz' that linked rather hard to Weavers can now be suspect at "Scodra." The lake-Sevan peoples that included those at Soducena, suspect with "Shutz," were traced to lake LYCHNidus (shown on both maps above to the south of the Cavii) because lake Sevan is "Lychnis" on this third map:
http://www.tribwatch.com/mapCaucasiaOld.jpgIt appeared to me that all the elements that made up the Sadducees along with Caiaphas were at this Illyrian coast. Look at how close the Paeoni are to the land of the Cavii. The Cavii and their surroundings were elaborated upon at some point in February and March of this year.
The Paeoni were suspect at the Pek river with a mouth at Pincum (shown on this map). There is a Puke location (not shown) down-river from Gabeleum, and therefore smack in the Cavii theater, for which reason I thought that it should trace to the namers of the Pek. I traced Pinks to the Pek before knowing of this Pincum location. The Pinks not only share the gold fitchee with Quints, but share the white escutcheon with like Saddocks, Chadwicks and Chaddocks, though the Pink escutcheon is in both colors of Sewer/Shuter Coat. These things are a very good reason for tracing "Cuppae" (shown, on the Pek) to the Caepio-lion line, and it just so happens that while that line was in Yorkshire, Pinks (and Pungs/Pagnells/Pagans and Cave's) were first found there. But the Caepio lion was also in Macclesfield, wherefore the Macclesfield fitchee can trace to Pincum's fitchee line very well. The Pink Crest even includes a "cuffed" sleeve that can perhaps indicate a Caiaphas line. To help trace the namers of the Pek to Puke (northern-most part of the Drilon river), the Margus river, with a mouth near the Pek, has a source near Puke (I can't recall, but the term might be "Puk").
As the Fitch surname is suspect with the Face's/Fessy's using the Macclesfield cross, I can now link the "Fac et" motto phrase of Mathie's to this same line...because I think I have finally deciphered the heraldic scimitar, one of which "emerges" from the Mathie "eastern crown." The Schim surname is listed with Chands/Shands, a surname that can trace to the Candavii area beside the Mathis river. The Schim/Chand boar head is in the colors of Googe/Gooch boars, thus indicating the line of Gogarene (at lake Sevan) expected at lake Lychnidus, and in fact the Candavii mountains are smack beside Lychnidus. The swan, in the colors of the Googe boars, are used by the Gogue's as a quite-apparent code for "Sevan."
Both the Googe and Schim/Chande mottoes honor the Fortune / Fortuna surnames, and the Fortune's, using another gyronny Shield, were first found in the same place (Roxburghshire) as Googe's. As the gyronny trace's Fortune's to Gironde, they appear to be a Fort line that used word play in honor of the Caepio fortune. The Fortune-Crest stag may be the first-ever example of a design I've seen matching the one in the English Stewart Crest. I am keeping in mind that I've traced the blue-and-white checks of Scottish Stewarts to the Italian MATTIS surname!!! That clinches the link between the Mathie and Fortune gyronny.
Why are the Alan-Stewarts tracing to the Mathis river? Are not the Alans from the Roxolani...that named Roxburgh??? It is now becoming very apparent that the Stewart stag design is reserved for few others, or maybe just one other, the Fortune's. The idea here is that the Trypillians of Moldova were at the Mathis river area, and in cahoots with the Cavii, which can somehow explain why I had Trypillians at Forum Allieni (proto-Ferrara) in about 70 AD. It can be gleaned from the "Virtute" motto term of Schims/Chande's that their boar becomes the blue Vere boar in colors reversed. The Fortune's were also first found in East Lothian, home of Faucets, Seatons and other Trypillian suspects.
The Scott stag is almost the Stewart / Fortune design, and then Italian Fortuna's use a talbot dog, important where Scotts are Talbot liners. These Scotts were first found in the same place as Fortune's and Googe's, while the other Scotts were first found in Kent and can therefore trace to Candavii elements (perhaps at lake Scodra). In a nutshell, a Scotland trace to Scodra can help to explain why the formation of Scotland went to the Skit- and Sched-related Guido's where Guido Guerra was suspect as part of the Caiaphas line. As Scotland was previously "Alba," see the "Albani" on this map to the immediate south of the Cavii, and ask why the Albany surname (Shropshire) uses the Caepio lion (in the two colors of the Massins and Louvains, likewise first found in Kent). The house of Albany was ruled by Stewarts, if I'm not mistaken.
German Fortuna's/Forts (looks like the SFORZa lion) were first found in the same place (Rhineland) as Shutz'. While the Sforza lion holds a quince," the Fortuna lion holds a "club," possibly for the Club/Clobbe / Clopton/Clapton bloodline. The Clubs/Clobbe's strike me as a Childeric > CLOVis > Child/Chill line, and therefore link to the Hepburn-honored Keeps using the weaver's shuttle. Clubs/Clobbe's are said to have been originally in Farndon of Cheshire. Farndons, perhaps from the Varni, use leopard face's (on a purple Shield) and vair fur.
For heraldic reasons alone, I've been tracing Pollocks to Forts for years without stressing it. I now find, in this Yahoo-result page: "...daughter of Charles Joseph de FORTIA and Marie Madeleine THOMAS, married to Gaspard II de FORTIA de POL". The page also has Anne de Pol of Foix-Candale. As the talbot is a Labrador species of dog, consider the Labeates at the Adriatic coast off of lake Scodra. It makes a lot of sense in a Scott-surname merger with Talbots.
Not until now did I venture to Wikipedia's Scodra article...to find fretty lattice in the Arms of Shkoder in the colors of the Cave lattice!!!! Amazing corroboration for a Cavii trace to Ceva elements, for the Cave's are in the colors of the Cavetts while the latter were named after the Cevetta river flowing by Ceva! The Cave / Shkoder colors are also those of Scotland. "The name was adapted to Italian as Scutari; in this form it was also in wide use in English until the 20th century." The Arms shares a red Chief with Scute's/Scutts, first found in the same place (Lancashire) as Weaver-honoring Shuttleworths and Forts. Let it be recorded that the Arms of Scodra use white eight-pointed stars.
Aha! The Labatts use the tower design found in the Scute Chief, and both surnames use gold Shields. The Batt variation of the family can then suggest a trace of Bath to Labeates. In fact, the fat cross used by Baths/Atha's is used in blue in a Beat/Beet Coat (gold Shield), and the latter is colored reversed to both Beth surnames (one of which is also "Bathe"), which evokes king MacBeth of Scotland.
Drago de Bevere traces to the Drago, also called the Hypsas, and so see the Apsus on both maps not far south of the Cavii. The Bevere's are suspect with Weavers, and the latter are tracing with Drago to Ceva. Of further interest where the Cavii trace to a Ceva > Shaw line is that the Schim/Chande surname is also "SHAWnd." I have no idea why a Schim surname should be listed with Chande's, but it tends to verify that Mathie's were from the Mathis. Irish Shaws/Sheaves use the PENdragon motto in reverse, suggesting that the Arthurian grail cult very-much includes the Shaws.
The point was, the Schims/Chande's are traced by their family historian to an earl of Bath, and Baths/Atha's happen to use the same cross (same colors) as Face's/Fessys. As it's Mathie's using both the scimitar and a "Fac et" motto phrase, the phrase thus seems to be deciphered as code for Fessy liners, and may link to Faucets/Foxside's and Foix's too. The Googe's/Gooch's (in Roque colors, first found in Roxburghshire) can be traced by their "Audaces" motto term to Roquefeuil in Aude (suggesting a trace back to Roxolani on the Siret river, where FOCSani is located), and it was Foix (beside Roquefeuil) that joined Candale in a political merger. To further verify that I'm getting this all correctly, the de-Pols of Foix trace to Pollocks using "Audacter" in their motto. Therefore, the namers of the Candavii mountain trace very well to Candale, where the Caepio treasure is suspect.
In other words: 1) with Caepio's descending from the Cavii, one could expect Quintus Caepio to stash the treasure with Candavii elements at Candale before the treasure was found, or; 2) the Candavii elements already in the family of Quintus Caepio moved to, and named, Candale after the treasure was found, or; 3) the treasure belonged in the first place to the Candavii.
The Axius river having a source near the Candavii area smacks of Axton in Kent, where Actons lived, but also where Gaunts were first found that ruled Candale. But Actons can conceivable become Astons and Eastons, perhaps explaining why Mathie's call their Crest symbol an "eastern crown." Actons are honored by Cravens, that being the name of a Yorkshire area where Skiptons lived, and Skipton-related Shiptons share an eel with the Foix surname. It seems very possible that the Foix-Candale entity was of the Focsani merger with Ixion's Centaurs = Heneti.
Wikipedia calls the first earl of Bath, Philibert de Chandee, suggesting the Candie's / Candida's of Savoy, where the Aude's are said to have been first found. In Gandia of Spain, a pope Borgia was mating with a woman from the house of Candida. The Arms of the Earl of Bath (water bougets) use the Bath/Atha cross engrailed and colors reversed. After the Chandee line, earls of Bath were from a BOURCier family, smacking of "Borgia." As the Arthurian grail cult traces chiefly to a mythical Bors, note how that term is like "Bourcier," what looks like a branch of Percival (first found in Somerset, location of Bath). There is a Borz variation on the Bourcier page.
After the Bourciers, the next family to rule Bath, the Granville's, used the so-called "clarions" used by Arthurs. I view this as code for the number five honored by Arthurs as per their links to Five's/Fify's and Fife's. To now prove this assertion of mine that readers may have rejected, the Schim/Chande write-up traces to a parish of FYVIE in Aberdeenshire. The clarions (said by some to be trumpets) look like number 5's, as well as like five organ pipes or an organ / piano from the top view with five keys, and the MacArthur crown has five points.
The Granville clarions are shown in the Earl-of-Bath article. Granville's were first found in the same place (Cornwall) as Pendragons and VIVians/Feys, suggesting that Fey liners were related to Fyvie. The Wikipedia article doesn't have the courtesy to tell readers where Bath is located. It's part of Bath and Wells in Somerset. I've read and recorded that an Arthur family in Clapton, Somerset, used clarions. Bourcier's evoke the Burse's and Burseblade's.
I've just seen the "gold INescutcheon" of Bourcier's, which is not like the "escutcheon" that I've been calling it. But both terms are used, and so I would suggest that the use of "inescutcheon" is part-code for a fundamental Shutz merger with the Ince / Inse / Innis / Innus line. That can trace Shutz' to the Agarus = Siret river by way of a Hagar-Innis comparison.
As Vivians and Five's were traced to "L'viv" (north of Moldova), the "Frangas" motto term of Granville's might just go to the Siret area of "Vrancea," location of Focsani. The Granville-Crest griffin is identical, color included, to the Annan(dale) Crest.
The last earls of Bath were of the Pulteneys, using the same dancette as Chettle's, as well as the black leopard faces of Keatons (see also Amps/Impys), thus indicating that Keath- and Seaton-suspect Keatons were a branch of Chettles/Cheatle's, important where Keaths are said to be of a "Catti" peoples. The dancette is tentatively tracing to Cottius Cottians. As I identified the Bath cross with that of the Aflacks and Flacks/Flecks partly because Baathists of Syria were co-founded by an Aflaq surname, note the "flectes" motto term of Granville's. The other reason for linking Baths to Baathists is that they were co-founded by a Bitar surname (first found in Fife) that gets the same cross as Aflacks. The Bitars are properly, Buttar," much like the Bidens/Buttons said to be from Bath and Wells.
"Gran" may be a gyronny / Gironde / Garonna line. If so, it effectively traces to the Caepio stash to the Arthurian cult of about 500 AD. Arthurian CAMELot is suspect as part of the Campbell/Cammell line.
PULTENeys are suspect with Pullens who share the Arthur pelican and come up as "Pullet." The latter share the red scallop with English Mathie's/Mathews. Earls of Bath became a topic at all due to their Chande bloodline suspect at the Candavii area beside the Mathis river. Why should a red scallop trace there too? As the Savona's, expected to be from lake-Lychnidus elements. The red bull in the Savona Crest is used by Borgia's...who married Candie / Candida. That really helps to verify that lake-Sevan liners were at Lychnidus and neighboring Candavii. Savone's (with an 'e') were first found in Somerset, where the Bourcier-suspect Percivals were first found.
The Schim/Chande motto even uses "comite," likely code for the Comite's/Conte's that formed Conteville's, known to be Burgo's. That tends to trace "Conte" to "Candavii."
The scimitar may have been an Attila symbol, and he appeared about the time of the Arthurian cult's dating (by others), which cult is always to be linked hard to Dol Alans suspect with Attila's House of Dulo. I would like to know whether the blue-on-white lion of Jewish ADELs is evidence of a Caiaphas merger with "ATTILa"? Much later, the Bruces, using the same lion, would lift Alans to the Scottish throne by a marriage with them.
I remain undecided on whether the Blade's (white Pilate pheons possibly) are named after Bleda, Attila's brother, or from "Pilate," or both. I speculated that the Pilate line merged with Attila factors.
At first, I traced Hanna's to "Hannibal" just because the Anne's/Hanney's and Hands share stags with Hanna's, as do the Annabels/HANNIBALs. It seems a tight case. But then I started to trace Hannibal elements to the Ananes Gauls that were previously suspect at the ancestry of Annas, which allowed me to trace Caiaphas to Carthaginians when the shoe started to fit, especially after finding excellent means by which king Massena could trace to the formation of Maccabees. The way to explain the stag that was linking to north-African lines was to trace Hannibal elements to the Attila Huns, and as Alans were fundamental with Meschins of Cheshire and to the D'Avrances too, the Hannibal-to-Hun trace makes some sense. What are the chances that Roxolani of Moldava ended up at the Numidian capital as early as king Massena, or at least before Forum Allieni was formed at Ferrara?
We could ask why the Adel lion seems to be in the Cert/Card Coat. Do stag-using Carts use palm trees as play on the Hand bloodline? Why is the Cart Coat a saltire in the colors of the Annan(dale) saltire? Are these quick points evidence that the paragraph above is true?
During the writing of this update, in search of surnames that could honor Ampelum, "Ambel" was loaded to find that it brought up the Annabel/Hannibal surname. The surname is said to be from "amablis, which means lovable," but I would contest. The surname uses double fesse bars in colors reversed from the dancetty fesse of German Camps. Earlier in this update, the amablis topic led to Love's/Luffs and blue-lion, Massin-related Louvains. It seems a tight case that the Caepio lion traces to king Massena, implying that Cavii linked to Numidians in time for the birth of Caiaphas. At first, before knowing of the Cavii, I though that the namers of "Caiaphas" could have named SOPHonisba, a Carthaginian daughter of a Hasdrubal but initially engaged to Massena. Without yet knowing that the Cavii theater traced to Scotland, I traced her name to Gophers that use the same saltire as the flag of Scotland. On the other hand, I had traced the flag of Scotland to king Andrew of HUNgary, a "contradiction" that can be cleared up if Carthaginians traced to Huns. The Malcolms/Callams, related I'm sure to Caepio-lion Hallams, use the flag of Scotland in colors reversed, along with stags, and then Malcolm III of Scotland, defeater of MacBeth, had Hungarians marry his sister while he himself married Margaret whom was previously in exile with Andrew I of Hungary. Our history teachers are not teaching us properly about Scottish roots, are they?
As the Caepio line is tracing to Martels of Gascony (the Martins use the Fort castle), note that one Martin Coat shares the double red-on-white fesses of Annabels. Granted, Charles Martel was a couple of centuries after Attila, but Attila did conquer as far as France. I traced the Arms-of-Cheshire garb to the flag-of-Gascony garb several years ago, before Caiaphas / Annas were even recognized in heraldry. I also traced the Wassa/Gace/Gasson surname to "Gascony," and it just so happens that the Wassa's/Gace's are proto-Washingtons while the latter use the Martin / Annabel bars, as do the Annas-like Ness' that could be a branch of Nassau's tracing to Orange-Nassau, where Quintus Caepio fought and lost a war against the Cimmerians the year after he found the gold bars. I sensed that these Cimmerians went on to found the Welsh, which I sensed has to do with the Conqueror's family parking the Conteville-Goz line (now suspect with Candavii) in Cheshire to check the Welsh...like one would if the purpose was to spy out and retrieve some gold that Boiorix had taken centuries earlier from Caepio.
But Ranulph le Meschin ruled also in Copeland in the area of Cimmerian Cumbria, where the Appleby location sits to which I trace the blue-apple riddle now suspect with some Caepio tressure at Rennes-le-Chateau. Why was it called COPEland??? There is an Adel location in West Yorkshire about midway between Cheshire and Copeland. The Cope / Copp surnames are in Caepio-lion colors as used by Adels and Bruces and Hallams of York. Then, see the blue lion in the Arms of Copeland Borough. About the only thing I haven't yet found is a gold bar...which can help pay me for the time spent in this tricky hunt. Why is the Copeland motto, "By FAITH and INDUStry"? The Fothes/Fette's, suspect with the Faiths, use "Industry". This was realized as the Fitch bloodline that brings us back to the Macclesfield lion over a "copia" motto term. Isn't the "Numine" motto term of the Copeland surname code for Numidians? Copelands even use the Annabel / Martin / Washington double bars.
To put it another way, the Moldava trace to the West, that included the Numidian capital, Certa, may have brought Cimmerians to the Amazons (Berbers) of north-Africa, which included the Meshwesh, and as such these Cimmerians may have been the Numidian owners of the gold bars at Toulouse. Something to this effect is coming to mind foggily. I'll never find a gold bar at this rate.
The Hanna's (stag in Cope colors) use an "alta" motto term while Molds/Mauds/Maids (Cheshire) are said to derive in "Monte Alto" (Italy), and while I think I will reject that as a derivation, there could be truth to a Mold trace to such a mountain, and Hanna's (Heneti from Moldova?) could be honoring it. The three double-fesse bars of Mold/Mauds are used my Monmouths but have a similar look to those of Wassa's/Gace's.
The problem was, the stag is a symbol of HUNgarian roots, and Hungarians trace themselves to Attila Huns, suggesting that "Hanna"-et-al was from "Hun." But the McCarthy's use a stag too, and they smack of "Carthage." McCarthy's were of the Muskerry household, a term like Massa-Carrara near Lucca, where Botters were first found that trace to the Biden / Capelli chapeau. This was the domain of Pisa, where Mosca's were first found that trace to the Amazons of Grecian Pisa, and we might expect the PIAST Mieszko's out of Pisa too, for as we saw that Mosca's are of Boofima, as Turnbulls are suspect, so the Mieske/Mesech surname shares the black bull with Turnbulls. The Pohls use the Mieske bull too, but call it a BUFFalo as code, apparently, for the Boeufs (with whom the Turnbulls are listed). My conclusion that the Attila family had origins in the Hannibal Carthaginians is made to look ridiculous where historians trace Attila out by China way. Attila may have mated with any number of daughters of European rulers, scumbag that he was. He had strongholds in the Cuppae area of Moesia. Is the Copeland lion the Adel lion, therefore, same as the Macclesfield lion?
As Adel is in Leeds while the Arms of Leeds uses a fleece, might the Lazi Caucasians have named Leeds? Could Meschin-suspect Leeders and Ladds apply so as to trace the Adel entity to Meschins / Cheshire?
The Trebia river has a source in Liguria not far from Massa and Carrara. One can imagine that the Numidians in support of Hannibal had settled down at Massa, named in honor of king Massena, who was at first pro-Hannibal before turning his allegiance to the Scipio side. With the Meschin, Leeder and Ladd scallops all going to Scylla at Messina, the whole of it can go to king Massena.
Between the Trebia and Massa, there is (I've just seen for the first time) a CHIAVari location that could apply to the Chiava variation of the Caiaphas-suspect Sheaves/Chiapponi's. This could be of the Chives/Shives using the Mosca leopard...as well as the black Moline moline, shown also on the breast of Jacques de Molay before Wikipedia's article on him changed it to a red moline, shortly after I traced the black one to the Moline family, a link that we are apparently not to know. Jacques de Molay was from Fulbert the "tanner" as were the Moline's, whose Tanner bloodline was on the Tanaro, location of Ceva. German Tanners even share pine cones with Maschi's (Rimini) while Massena's/Messina's are a branch of Masci's (Piedmont). It's clear to me that the Shawia Numidians were at Ceva and Chiavari, if that helps to trace Massa to Massena Numidians (actually, not necessarily to Massena himself because his peoples were named after a Mass term).
The "Famam" motto term of Fetch's/Veitch's can link to the fame variation of Fane's/Veynes' (gauntlet gloves, very linkable to Maceys because Fane's are a Mackay sept) because the two surnames share the bull. As the Fane's trace well to Fano, near Rimini (where Maschi's were first found), they too can trace to "Rimna," a river (near the Siret) at Focsani / Vrancea (I wrongly called it the "Rimni" in the last update). Focsani traced well to Fossano, on the Tanaro, the area where Massena-related Masci's were first found, wherefore the Numidians can trace to the Tanaro too, perhaps explaining why Tanners use Moor heads. The Gaunt-related Ghents use the Shield-and-Chief color combination of Tanners so that gauntlet-using Maceys may trace to the Tanaro.
The Fussen area of Germany is on a Lech river, a term that I routinely link to Meschins (the Leys/Leghs are suspect in using the personal lion of Ranulf le Meschin). The Arms of Leeds uses a "lege" motto term. The CyFOETH motto term of Gernons traces well to "Foetes," the alternative name of Fussen, and Gernon was the surname of le Meschin's son. Therefore, a Meschin trace to Leeds and Adel seems still more certain, especially as there was a Meschin branch in Yorkshire, married to the Scipio line. I think by now you are getting this, but, no, we still haven't found a gold bar. It could again look like the Siret-river peoples ended up at the Numidian capital, and afterwards at the north-west side of Italy in the war of Trebia.
Meschins were earls of Skipton. William Meschin of Skipton married a Romulus-suspect Rumily family, which speaks to me of a Masci trace all the way back, through Pisa Amazons, to the 600 Benjamites at Rimmon, founders of Romans and therefore suspect in mythical Romulus and Remus. As for Cravens of Skipton, more fitchees, possibly on the Rome/Room Coat, you see. Rumilly's are thus suspect with Rome's/Rooms and Augusts.
The Rumilly description: "A silver shield with a rock with nine points [number of the all-female, Amazon-suspect Muses], on each point a lily [Massey symbol], and on a blue chief, a crescent between two silver stars. " Rumilly's were first found in the same place (Cambridgeshire) as Julians, Chapmans, and Capone's. Rumilly's were lords of Harewood. On the page below, see that a William Meschin of Skipton was lord of Copeland:
http://www.celtic-casimir.com/webtree/2/25328.htmDid you see AMABEL fitz William, heiress of Copeland. That's got to be the reason for the Annabels that come up as "Ambel," and the reason also for the Anne's of Yorkshire. As expected, these stag liners trace to north-Africa.
Numidians in northern Italy are the key to the formation of the priest-kings of Israel who would offer Jesus up for the redemption of the world, and for their part in this great gift they will be in Hell, so ironically, but as would-be world conquerors deserve for the many deaths that they contribute to, not to mention the wasted tax dollars on the backs of the conquered. It is gold that world conquerors amass, the root of all evil.
The Duncan SecretsOn her father's side, Duncan II Canmore was grandfather of Amabel, which now traces the Annabel stag to the Malcolm stag, and that in-turn links to the blue-lion Hallams (in Malcolm colors). Could this trace the Dunkeld dynasty of Scotland, or at least Duncan II alone, to Sophonisba lines via the Gopher saltire (same as the flag of Scotland)? Could the Cavii have gone to Sophonisba Carthaginians before founding the Scot rulers? Kenneth MacAlpin seemed to trace well to Numidians, after all, suspect with the Shawia. The Gopher Coat is in the colors of the GOPH/Googe/Gooch boars.
It can be gleaned that "DunKELD" is partly after the Celts/Cults sharing a red-on-white stag (same design now showing) with Malcolms. Celts/Cults were first found in the same place as Shaws, fancy that. The Cavii went to the Shaws, did they not? Malcolms are obviously honoring the MacArthurs in their motto. The Dunkelds, partly named after the Duncan kings, can also be traced to Duncans and related Donkeys (Northumberland). The Duncans use a chevron in colors reversed to the Quint chevron. The Chamberlains, suspect with Cimmerians of Cumbria and NorthUMBERland, use a donkey in Crest. We now have reason to believe that the Boiorix bars that Meschins were either after or in possession of were in the hands of the Dunkelds (gold bars can always explain why certain families come to political power). A Boiorix-line merger with the Caepio line (a compromise solution) can explain the treasure in Copeland of Cumbria.
The Chamberlains were first found in the one of the two places (Dorset) that Quints were first found in. Chamberlains use the Duncan chevron i.e. colors reversed from the Quint chevron. We seem to have a definite merger with the Caepio line in king Duncan. I have had trouble deciphering the "Disce" motto term of Duncans, but Chamberlains use "ProDESSE," easier for to find a relevant surname. Many mottoes use "pro something" in honor of their kin by marriage. In the case of the Chamberlain motto, the Dess/Dash surname can apply, in Malcolm blue-on-white, important because Duncan was a son of king Malcolm II.
Duncan II married a widow of a granddaughter of Sigurd the Stout, and Stouts, listed with Stows, use fitchees of the design and colors used by Pinks. This is very important because Pinks are using the SEWER/Shuters/Suter Shield, a variation of the Saddock-et-al Shield (with a white escutcheon, important below). The Sewers/Shuters: "a silver escutcheon and an orle of eight silver crosses crosslet fitchee." That is, they don't call it an "inescutcheon," as do Bourciers and others, but the latter version can trace to the Innus / Angus line, important for this discussion.
The Shuters appear merged with SIWARD of Northumberland, right? And that's where Chamberlains were first found. Siward was also "Sigurd," just like Sigurd the Stout. There you have your line to the naming of Scotland, very likely in the escutcheon-using Scute's, to be matched with Shuters/Suters. But as Pinks trace to Panico's having some relationship with Guido's, the Skits and Scheds must be involved with this Malcolm > Duncan picture that married the Meschin-Annabel line.
The Sewer/Shuter crossed are called, "patee fitchee." suggesting the "Disce pati" motto of Duncans, and the fitchees are gold, as with the Quint fitchee'. The "patee" code has lately become suspect with the "Patchie" variation on Kilpatricks ("make" motto term, branch of Maxwells/Makeswells tracing to fitchee-using Macclesfield), and then the Duncans share the hunting horn with Patch's; the latter's are in the colors of the Arms-of-Macclesfield hunting horns. The latter are said to be from a "Paecci" surname, suggesting the Pike's honored by the Geddes pike fish, and then the ancient Geds (proto-Geddes) were on the Nith river, location of the Kilpatrick castle. The Patch's share the black fitchee with Macclesfield...and with Hanna's, first found in Wigton, beside the Nith. That works.
The Duncans thus trace to this entity that includes the Nitts using what could be construed as a white escutcheon in the colors of the same of Saddocks/Sedwicks. The Geddes ("capta" motto term) escutcheon is in the colors of the same of Chaddocks and Chadwicks which begs whether "Chad" and "Ged" are related terms. One can also ask whether the "wick' on "Sedwick / Chadwick" is from WIGton elements (suspect as vikings), for Wigtons (Yorkshire) use the sort of escutcheon used by Scotts. Nitts are using the Raines / Newman lions and thus trace to a Numidian merger with the Reno-Setta entity that I say was proto-Scotland along with Pinks. The Reno-Setta entity was of Rainier of Montferrat, and then Fers/Ferrats use the Nitt checks too.
The "fortunae committo" motto phrase of Nitts traces to the gyronny of Fortune's and the Mathie's, and because the latter were on the Mathis river, the blue-and-white checks of the Nitts traces well to the Italian Massi/Mattis Coat. That suggests a Nith-river trace to the Mathis / Cavii theater. Why? Because that area is where proto-Scotland traces. As the Soducena line (suspect as proto-Scotland) was at lake Lychnidus (in my opinion as of last February), the "candore" motto term of Soducena-suspect Chadwicks can trace to the Candavii mountains smack beside Lychnidus! But "candore" can be a clever term in honor of Ore's too, first found in the place (Renfrew) suspect with the Rainier > Raines line. The "petit" motto term of Malcolms should be for Petit's, first found in Cantii-founded Kent.
The Geds were on the Nith river before 400 AD, when Scotland was still called, Alba, suspect from the Albani(ans) stamped near the Cavii. Reminder, the Albany surname uses the Caepio lion in the colors of the Massin/Mason and Louvain lion, and the latter surname had traced (according to a clever "lovable" tip in the Annabel write-up) to the Ambel/Annabel surname now suspect with AMABEL fitz William, heiress of Copeland, and granddaughter of Duncan II. Isn't that perfect?
Attila was born about 400 AD. If his brother (Bleda) traces to the Blade's using the white Pilate pheon, then consider that the Pilate pheon is colors reversed from the Celt/Cult pheon, for the DunKELD dynasty traces without doubt to the Celts/Cults, first found in the same place that some say was home to the Pict mother of Pontius Pilate. This is a very convincing picture, where Attila lines trace to the Malcolm and Celt/Colt stag. Their stags are red, as is the stag of Carthaginian-suspect MacCarthys. But why is the Blade saltire in the white color of the Scotland saltire? Was Bleda named after a Pilate line out of Perthshire, the same line that furnished the Hallam-suspect Malcolms? Again, the Hallams and Adels both use blue-on-white lions, and Adel is a location in Yorkshire, where Hallams/Hallands were first found (the French president with Hallande surname now wants to arm the Kurds).
Did Bleda's father (MUNDzuk/Mundiuch) marry a Pilate line? Or was he from the Adel entity using a lion in the blue color of the Placentia wolf? A blue wolf is thought to be from Mongols / Huns, but this may be a distraction. I am at this moment considering a trace of MUNDiach to the namers of Muntenia in Wallachia. I've just read that Hungarians trace their stag line of Attila to mythical NIMrod, and suddenly the NUMidians came to mind. I then recalled that Scottish Walsh's/Walchs (traced recently to "Wallachia") use a "numine" motto term, as do Copelands (Copeland was related to Adel, if you recall). This now speaks to me of a Attila trace to Numidians rather than Carthaginians, especially as the Annabels/Hannibal surname is linking hard to Meschins of Yorkshire.
The Celt/Cult motto, "Transfigam," is almost identical to a Walsh motto term, "Transfixus."
A reader that first tipped me off concerning the Boofima cult claimed that the Boofima leopard was an ancient symbol of Nimrod. The Fitch surname (related to the Fetch's sharing a black bull with Boeuf-related Turnbulls) not only uses leopard faces, but uses a chevron in colors reversed from the KELD chevron, and I am fully expecting Attila to trace to the Dunkelds and Celts/Cults at this moment. Like the Blade's, Kelds and Fitch's use green. It can even be gleaned that Kelds (Hampshire) are using both the gold garbs of Josephs (Hampshire) and the green chevron of Josephs! BUT LO AND BEHOLD, the Kelds are said to be from a Keld / Keilde location in Cumbria's West-Yorkshire, and Adel is in West Yorkshire!!! I did not know this Keld location until writing to this point, after all the above was suggested.
Why is Joseph Caiaphas linked to Kelds at Keld? Ask the blue Copeland or Adel lion.
As Weavers traced to the Ceva / Cavii entity, and as Weavers looked like a merger with Hazels ("hazel SLIPs"), it should be mentioned that Maxwells use the stag-and-holly design of Hazel-related ISLIPs (Yorkshire, same as English Maxwells). In other words, this is more evidence yet that Weavers -- Shuttle / Shute kin -- trace to Macclesfield elements, important where Maxwells and Scotts (and Fortune's) were both first found in Roxburghshire. This picture is a blue-Cope-lion (of Macclesfield) connection to stag liners, wherefore if the stag goes to a Nimrod > Numidian line, so might Joseph Caiaphas.
To help prove that the Paecci = Patch's (Devon) were Pike liners, they were first found in the same place as same-colored Pike's (in Malcolm colors)...and Chives, all beside the Geddys/Gideons of Cornwall. If the latter traces with Geddes' to Geti / Getuli Numidians, it should be re-mentioned that Chives' use the Mosca leopard. It again insinuates a Massena-Numidian line to the Nith side of Duncan ancestry.
With a Pike / Paecci trace to the Pek river, and with Patch's sharing the Macclesfield / DAVENport (from "Devon"?) fitchee, the "copia" motto term of Macclesfields (and Copeland) can go to "Cuppae" on the Pek. The Macclesfield stag (shared by Maxwells) can then go to the Attila line in the Pek theater. How soon after the Geds of about 400 AD did the Attila line get to the Duncans? For this, my trace (years ago) of Geddes' to Placentia should be relevant, but unfortunately I have no date for it.
The new theory that Attila's father is from the namers of Muntenia is intriguing, as that can get Attila ancestry to the far-east of Europe. I've just noted that Duncan II was preceded on the Scot throne by an Oengus, possibly tracing to Angusta off the Siret, a river that was Agarus and thus tracing to Hagars, first found in the same place as Bleda-suspect Celts/Cults. Oengus ruled at Moray, a place I trace to the Mures river i.e. nor far from Angusta. Wikipedia: "Oengus is known to have been the son of the daughter of Lulach." The latter, also a ruler at Moray, could be from a corruption of "Wallachia," and thus related to the Roxburgh (from Roxolani on the Siret) Walsh's/Walchs using the numine code. Lullach was king just two years after Duncan-related Siward defeated MacBeth. In his first year, Lullach was murdered by Malcolm III (son of Duncan I) in HUNtly, a location (of Gordons) that can explain the Hunting horn of Duncans. Might the hunting horns of Trypillian-suspect Trabys apply?
A trace of Oengus to Angusta can explain why the Duncan line married Rumilly, if the latter traces to the Roman location on the Siret. The Rome's/Rooms use the August fesse while Angusta was also "Augusta." The Rumily Chief, like the Lett Chief, uses two outer stars with a crescent between them, but the Rumilly stars are in the colors of the Moray stars. The "numine"-using Walsh's (Maxwell / Kilpatrick saltire?) use annuLETs. The Roman location is in the NEAMt part of Moldova, perhaps named by proto-Numidians (there is a Neame surname). To the near south of Roman and Neamt is a Bacau area while Duncans share white-on-red cinquefoils with French Bacons. Very interesting, especially as Duncans traced to the Pek river, location of PINCum. To the west of both Bacau and Roman is PUNGesti, honored in the Rome/Room motto, and representing the Pink > Pung bloodline to Yorkshire (location of Adel, suspect from the Pek theater), important because Sewers/Shuters are Pink kin.
Keeping in mind that Duncan II married Northumberland, the Sewers/Shuters likely become important with this wife. She was AETHELreda (daughter of a GOSpatrick), an Aetheling liner (goes back to Bamburg / Bebbanburgh Bernicians), and I traced "Aethel" to "Hazel" and to Siward's HESLington entity in Yorkshire. Heslingtons use green too, and are likely sharing the the green-on-white oak leaves of Pek-suspect Patch's/Paecci's. The "focis" motto term of Heslingtons can go to "Focsani," likewise on the Siret. The Heslingtons (I traced them to HASdrubal) are highly suspect in tracing to Certa elements of Numidians. / Carthaginians, which, if correct, would have me entertaining an Aetheling trace to "Has(drubal)."
Just realized: "Hasdrubal" should be an HASDR term with a "bal" suffix like "Hannibal." This caused a look at the Aster surname, from the same place (Manche) as Masseys. Hasters -- swans on what looks like the Sale bend -- were first found in Yorkshire, where the line of Meschins lived that merged with Duncans. Carthaginians were allied to some Ligurians in the war of Trebia, which included the Salyes, and Sale's were first found in the same English place as Masseys. Is the Haster Coat not speaking to a king-Massena link to a Carthaginian-Salyes merger? The Cheshire Astons (black bull) use yet another "Numine" motto term! The Ashtons, in Aston colors, use a single large star in the colors of the Bacon stars (perhaps important where Neamt is beside Bacau). The Macclesfield fitchee is from Davenports of Cheshire's ASTbury location (East Cheshire). Are fitchees tracing to Numidians? They already did. But they are now tracing potentially to one of the multiple Hasdrubals. Astburys (share the white Saddock / Chaddock martlets) look like Aston-suspect Actons/Axtons (kin of fitchee-using Cravens), from Axton...in Kent,. where Massins/Masons were first found. This picture provides a new trace for Actons, to Hasdrubal, something to keep in mind.
It could appear that Hasdrubal was named after a Baal cult on the Ister river and/or in Istria (mouth of the Pek is at the Ister), but if not, then after an Astur entity. The Aster write-up traces to a Stur entity while English Sturs were first found in Hampshire, same as Josephs. By what coincidence is it Duncan-important that the latter Sturs are also "STOWer," thus link-able to Stows/Stouts (the line that Duncan II married)? Both Stur Coats reflect the Fullers and related Carpenters, important where Fullers (and related Belli's) use a Bacon-honoring "beacon." This could potentially argue for a Duncan-cinquefoil link to the Bacon cinquefoils while tracing Duncans to Hasdrubal (HasdruBELLI?) lines.
Scottish Belli's (share the Carpenter motto) just happen to use the eight-pointed star, that being anciently of ISHTAR.
The "crossLET fitchee" of Sewers/Shuters must be part code (as with "annuLET") for the Letts (organ pipes trace partly to Pipe's / Pepins), using the Shield-and-Chief color combination in colors reversed, as used by Bruces and Ayrshire. Scottish Pike's were first found in Ayrshire, and they use a saltire in the colors of the Lett saltire. The Arms of Ayrshire uses a "shaw" motto term so as to trace to Shawia Numidians, and Kanza's Aures/Awraba tribe smacks of the naming of AYRshire. It's probably important that Scottish Pike's use PIERCED stars, as the Pierces are part of the "grail king" line that is now suspect at the Shaw grails. The Shield-and-Chief color combination of Letts matches the same of Annas', and is colors reversed to the Shield-and-Chief color combination of Fife's. Both the Fife's and Letts use two outer stars with a crescent between them in their Chiefs, and "Chief" is itself suspect with "Caiaphas."
See the Deas-suspect Dias' using the Shield-and-Chief color combination of Letts as well as a swan in Crest that can indicate lines from the Leda swan line. Spanish Dias' must be using the Guerra bendy because the swan line traced to Guido-Guerra elements suspect at the Savena and Setta valleys. Therefore note that the Guido lion is red, like the Fife lion.
I can even tell you where the Dess'/Dash's (taken from the Chamberlain motto) are from, as even the "Daish" variation can inform us. The Dess/Dash lion is in the colors of the Fife and Five lions, and these are the colors shown for the lion of Ranulph le Meschin at Wikipedia's article on him. That's important because the Duncan line to which the Chamberlain chevron belongs had married Meschins, and moreover this is a great way to prove that the royal lion of Scotland, no doubt the one under discussion, traces to le Meschin. That would be another indication that Scotland's founding traces to Numidians.
The Deas/Dais surname (Heslington colors), first found in Annas-related Angus (i.e. beside Fife), and related to the Annan-related Desmonds (kin also of Kilpatricks, use the Gospatrick saltire in colors reversed), should apply to the Dess/Daish surname. Desmonds are a line from Muskerry that enjoined the red-stag MacCarthys (i.e. using the stag color of Malcolms / DunKelds). The Plant(agent) Crest shows the MacCarthy stag exactly, red color included, and Plant's were first found in London, while Londons / Lundy's use more gyronny, a symbol suspect with the keepers of the Caepio treasure and code for a line to the son of Ranulph le Meschin.
With a Dess/Daish (in Sibal colors) trace to Fife, it suggests linkage to Sibal(d)s of Fife, known to have formed an alliance with Lundys (uses Scotland's double-tressure along with what could be the lion of Ranulph le Meschin). The Dess'/Daish's were first found in London. The Sibals not only use what could be construed as a white-on-blue escutcheon (the Sewer/Shuter escutcheon colors), but they use it at the center of their moline cross, just as Chives (Mosca kin) use a symbol at the center of their moline. This is important because DunKELDs trace to the red stag of Celts/Cults, first found in Perthshire, beside Stirling, where Scottish Chappes' were first found.
The Sibal symbol, however, is called "a blue cross moline, square pierced," suggesting the SHIRE/Square surname that is a suspected branch of Sibal-related Sire's/Sirets.
It just so happens that the Dess/Daish Coat shares a blue-on-white fesse with Scottish More's/Moors who use the white Moor head (exactly identical) of Heslingtons that I think is code for the head of Hasdrubal upon one of his coins (as seen at his Wikipedia article). If this is tracing Sibals to Hasdrubal, it's notable that Ishtar and Kybele were both mother goddesses. Cybele was from Phrygia, the Heneti theater, and "Hannibal" might be indication of Heneti lines. I know that Heneti were on the Siret river.
If heraldic Moor heads are by-and-large based in Hasdrubal, why do the Chappes' use Moor heads? The Belli Moor heads along with the blue chevron could link to the Chappes,' and the "acuta" motto term of Belli's could be code for the Cotta line of Cottius (more than a century after Hannibal) that I see to the birth of Caiaphas. Hannibal came east through the Cottian Alps when invading the Trebia, and it could be that his elements had merged with the Cottius family.
The Dess/Daish-Chief lion is used exactly, colors included, in the Chief of Joseph-suspect Kelds.
The Sibals (traced months ago to Siward of Northumberland) are said by some to have settled Northampton, where Quince's of Winchester were first found, and that should explain why Winchesters (Hampshire, same as Kelds) share a square in the center of their blue cross with the blue Sibal cross. The Winchester fitchees are definitely suspect with the Quint fitchee. Winchesters are probably using the Sword = Siward swords in their "canton," sometimes called a "square." We just saw the Shire/Square surname link to Sibals while tracing to Siret elements. Winchesters even share a blue lion with the Certs/Cards.
Compare Irish Lundy's (Tipperary, trace-able to "Tipaza" of Numidia) with Aesons (Angus) and Eastons, the latter now suspect with Astons / Ashtons tracing to Hasdrubal.
Wikipedia's article on William fitz Duncan (son of Duncan II) does not give the same genealogy, as regards his Skipton descendants, as does this page presented earlier, but it's close. Wikipedia gives "Alice de Rumilly" as his wife rather than "Alice le Meschin," but she is the same person. If Wikipedia had maid plain that Alice of Rumilly was a Meschin, I would have realized sooner why I was tracing Meschin lines to the Duncan royals. This was realized from heraldic clues (in recent months) before knowing in this update that Meschins married the Duncan line. Wikipedia does not give Amabel as the daughter of Alice with William fitz Duncan. There must be a cover-up of Meschin lines to early Scotland, before the arrival of Hungarians.
The other theory, aside from Adel = Attila, is that Adels trace to the "Adalhaidus" term in the Alis/Alice write-up. Note the jibber wherein "Adalhaidus" is said to mean "noble person," for in reality it means that Noble's and Adels share the blue lion.
Benjamites on the Rimni? YESAn excellent argument for tracing heraldry to the Cottius family had to do with a son of Cottius by the name of Julius Vestalis. His first name should prove to be a story in itself because Julius Caesar married Aurelia Cotta. But the topic here is the Wessal/Wassell surname with GASTell variation evoking the Gusts said to be from "Gaut," a term that gets the Cotta Coat. I have no idea why a Cottius-Caesar line should name a son, Joseph, but note how the Wessels/Gastells use garbs in the colors of the same of Josephs.
The Wessel Crest: "A cubit arm in red, holding a blue dove collared gold." The Collars use Moor heads. "Cubit" could be for a Capet line to the "Capta" motto term of Numidia-suspect Geddes. The Pinks: "A cubit arm in blue, cuffed silver..." Pinks trace to Pincum, at the mouth of the Pek where the Pike kin of Geddes trace, and the Cuppae location up the Pek was called, "city of doves." It can now trace, as per the Wassa/Gace/Gasson surname suspect in Wassells, to Washington DC, called "District of Columbia," named after a dove entity.
The Cubit line is thus suspect with a Cuppae line to Cope's / Copeland, and it just so happens that Copeland is at Westmorland, where Wessels/Gastells were first found.
The "cuffed" code in the Pink description is for the Caiaphas-suspect Cuffs using a version of the Sale bend, for the Salyes Ligures lived on both sides of the Cottian Alps.
What are the chances that Cubits/Cobbettsuse the blue-on-white Caepio lion? What are the chances that the Cert/Card Crest uses, by coincidence, the cloud symbol of the Cubit Crest while Certs share the blue-on-white lion?? It's no coincidence. The Cubits are linking to the Numidian capital.
As I reasoned that the Numidian cavalry in northern Italy led to the Caiaphas line, note the horse in the Wessel/Gastell Chief. This may mean that some heraldic horses trace to this cavalry rather than to Troy / Ares / Hyksos. However, I do trace king Massena to Hyksos, and Hyksos are traced to Ixion, mate of Nephele (= "cloud/nebula" to the Greeks). As I identify Centaurs with Heneti, note that the German Wessels ("buffalo horn") use the ANTler (in the colors of the Wassa/Gace star). If this antler traces to the one in the Arms of Spree-NEISSE, note that Ness' use the Washington bars.
I traced Washingtons to the Wass term of "Wassukanni," the Mitanni capital. But I trace the Mitanni to "Modane" just 25 miles from the Segusio capital of the Cottius' family. It indicates that Mitanni elements founded that family, and led to Masons of Washington DC. I have been claiming by several other methods that Caiaphas lines led to Washington elements. When God made a dove appear to fall on Jesus at his baptism, He may have been mocking, or signalling to, the priests looking on...because they had a dove symbol. Apparently, Cuppae traces to Mitanni, and then they go to Modi-in, Israeli home of Maccabees. Expect Mitanni-Maccabees at the "copia" motto term of Macclesfield.
Earlier in this update: "Hasters -- swans on what looks like the Sale bend -- were first found in Yorkshire, where the line of Meschins lived that merged with Duncans." I was using that statement to indicate a Scott-royal trace to a Hasdr(ubal) line. The Haster Coat can easily link to the Cuff Coat, and while the Joseph symbols are in the English Wessel Coat, the Haster swans are a symbol shown until recently by French Josephs. As the Aster / Aston line passed through Cheshire, compare the Cheshire capital, CHESTER, to "Aster/Ester." In other words, Chester may have been an Hasdrubal line.
The gold garbs of Wessels/Gastells are the symbol of Cheshire too. That means that Cottius' son traces to Chester too, and here we can imagine a Vestalis-Hasdrubal merger by marriage. I claimed (long before Cottians were a topic with Caiaphas) that the naming of Cheshire (and the Chee/Cheatle/Chettel surname) was by the Keath Catti, but Catti can be a Cotta branch. It just so happens that the Chee/Chettle dancette is being traced to Donnus, grandfather of Vestalis. The reason for this trace is the Dance variation of Donnas', and these share gold-and-blue bars with the Stouts/Stows, suspect with the Stows/Sturs that are now tracing to "Hasdr(ubal)." With Hasdrubal tracing tentatively to Astons and Actons, see that the English Dance's/Danse's (more red lions) use a fesse in the colors of the same of Acton-honoring Cravens...of Yorkshire, where Dance's were first found.
The Wessel garbs are called "wheat sheaves," clever code for the Ceva > Chives / Chiava/Sheaves/Chiapponi bloodline. This is now linking hard to the Cottius family whereas it was only speculation in the past couple of updates. The Wheats/Wete's (possible branch of "Wessel") use wheat sheaves (in Chief) too, as well as a dancette! The Josephs call them garbs, and Wessels call them "garbs of wheat."
An inspection of the Collar variations is overdue. The Callard variation seems to become relevant to the topic at hand when we look at the two Call surnames. One uses the Celt/Cult pheon suspect with Pontius Pilate, though neither this nor the trace of the surname to the Celt peoples speaks especially of the Collar/Callard Moor heads. The Khaldi were metal makers, however, and so the Shield split in the only two heraldic metals may apply. It appears that the red stars of the Calls, with Cole variation, are the stars of Cole-related Kyle's. But I am not yet sure whether the Collars/Callards are a branch of Calls.
English Calls use trumpets, and then the Trump stag is now showing identical, aside from colors, to the Celt/Cult stag. As Arthurs supposedly use "clarion" trumpets (though they don't look like trumpets), "CallARD" might be a Kyle-liner combo with Arthurs, for the Calls/Cole's were first found in the same place as MacArthurs. I've yet to understand why Arthurs are using the Seagar moline, but I can add that Arthurian myth had the Pendragon > Arthur line in London while a London branch hooked up with Sibals, using the Arthur moline in colors reversed. Then, Londons and Mathie's share the gyronny symbol while Mathie's use the MacArthur crown. As Mathie's trace to the Mathis river, look at how close it runs to the PENEstae location. The Candavii area between the Mathis and Penestae traces to the Heneti, from Genetes at the Trabzon theater. As king Arthur was a Brit entity, note the Parthini on the south of the Mathis, for they are suspect as proto-Pretani. Geoffrey of Monmouth had a mythical Brutus as a founder of London, but I'm not even sure whether he knew that the Arthurian cult traces to the Penestae / Mathis entity.
Just look at the two greyhounds of the Penny Coat and compare them to the two in the Lys/Lisse Coat, for there is a Lissus location on the north side of the Mathis. I kid you not that the Penny Crest is a lynx, and so see the LYNCestes location on the other side of the Lychnidus lake from Penestae. Doesn't this convince you that the Bretons and Scotts came from side-by-side locations on the Illyrian coast, but all from Trabzon elements i.e. the Amazons / Trypillians? While Arthurs are not expected in the Penestae entity purely, a merger is expected, and Arthur's wife was a Heneti, represented by Aphrodite as it developed into the red-stag line of Venus, and so recall the red-stag Plants of London...or the red-stag Celts/Cults. Are you not impressed with this specialized history lesson? Do I get an apple yet, class?
Look at how close the Axius comes to the Penestae. Now check out the same area on this other map (I don't know yet which predates which, and the geography is not perfect), where the Mathis is called the Oeneum. Look to the northeast of the Cavii to see "Crevenia." Does this indicate that the Actons/Axtons, honored by Cravens, trace to this area too? I now have a problem, because I traced "Acton" to "Aston" and "Aster," and therefore to "Hasdr(ubal." But I recall faintly from last February a Has location on the Drilon, and it's at the northern end of that river, i.e. very close to Crevenia. Here's the online quote that was shared in February:
"From Kukes, the Drin [= Drilon] flows through northern Albania, first flowing through the Has area to the north...After Vau i Dejes, the longer branch continues to the south, passing through...Lezhe and Medes. South of Lezhe [= Lissus] it...finally reaches the Adriatic."I had all but forgotten that quote while in this and the last update. There was a Has entity smack in the Cavii neighborhood. I don't know whether I mentioned it in February, but the Cavii smack of the Cabelees, for they were a fellow tribe with the Lazi-suspect Lasonii. In other words, the Cavii were from the great-mother cult of Kybele, on the Halys between Trabzon and the Parthenius-river Heneti. I continually stressed the Halybes (metal-making kin of Khaldi) as a Halys-river people after tracing the Excalibur sword to them, but I was unable to clinch a Halys link to Kybele due to the little online concerning Halybes.
What a logical thing, to trace the Caepio gold bars to metal makers / metal miners. I traced Hephaestus (mythical metal maker) to the Halybes just because his wife was on the neighboring Parthenius, and he's suspect with the footless symbol used by Sadducee lines. French Josephs use the footless martlet, and that looks like a Halybes link to Kybele.
The Lemnites trace to Limousin not very far from Toulouse, and the Sintians > Santones of Lemnos may go to the "DeSUNT" motto term of the Macclesfield Arms. Note how Dutch Sanders use only silver and gold, reserved for a few (this metallic combination was made illegal at some point). Then click over to German Sanders (Rhineland) to see the red, upright bull of Charo's/Chiaro's, thus being good evidence of a Caiaphas link to the Sintians > Santones...who settled in Saintes, France, smack on the north side of Gironde! That could explain why Quintus Caepio took the treasure to the Gironde area, to find old cousins for to be the keepers. What was the first unlucky family to be called for the purpose. The Camps? I'll come back to this question below with the mention of the Saints.
German Sanders (in Aston / Ashton colors) share two chevron in the colors of the same of Ash's. The Sands/SONDs use fitchees and may therefore trace to the Macclesfield "DeSUNT" motto term. The Macclesfield fitchees are from Davenports of Astbury, and the Astbury's (in ASHbury colors) use footless martlets (not forgetting that "foot" traces to the Fitch / Fothes/Fetts bloodline). Both the Astburys and Ashburys use a fesse in the colors of the Acton fesse.
But if Hasdrubal was from the Has location, why wasn't he named Hasbal rather than Hasdrubal? Perhaps the Has location got caught up with an Astor line from the Axius river. The Craven fesse is colors reversed from the Astbury / Ashbury fesse, and meanwhile the Craven fesse is surrounded by red fitchees, the color of the Sand/Sond fitchees, and the latter even share a red fesse with Cravens. This is fairly good evidence that all of these surnames trace to the Crevenia theater, smack next to the Cavii and the Axius. On one of the maps above. the Axius is the "Azius" (called the Erigon in the upper parts).
I hope you didn't miss it that, due to the Sand/Sond connection to the Axius/Azius elements, the Sanders apply too so as to bring the Ash surname into the picture. The Ash surname is said to be from an Esse entity in Devon, and then the south of Paris has an Essone region, important because the Lys/Lise and Chappes surnames were first found in northern Paris, a city suspect in being named by the same that named Pharisees. Why does the Ash surname use two fat chevrons in black? For years until changed, the Levi surname, first found in the same place as Lys'/Lisse's and Chappes, showed three fat black chevrons, the number of chevrons used by German Ash's (albeit the Ash's use their chevrons in Acton / Ashbury colors). Doesn't this speak of an Ash trace to the Cavii theater while also revealing that Chappes' are from the Cavii? Note the mention of EXeter in the Ash write-up, for that has got to be the meaning of EXcalibur (i.e. a Halybes peoples in Exeter).
Why do English Ash's use the red wyvern of Drake's who link to the Montechiaro-Mosca marriage? Isn't the involvement of Drake's in this picture evidence that the Joseph surname (honoring the Montechiaro line in its motto) is from Joseph Caiaphas? That "mago" motto term of Josephs is a name of Hasdrubal and Attila's brother.
Why do Sinclairs also come up as "Saint"? None of their other variations have Saint-like looks to them. Were they connected to Santones? Isn't the "Commit" motto term of Sinclairs code for the Conte line to Comyns and Wessels? Why do English Saints (Yorkshire again) use "cherubs," a term like the "Garbs" of Josephs. The garbs and cherubs are even in the same colors. Garebites, right? Why are the wings of the cherubs "counter-crossed saltireways"? Isn't that code for the Conte line? Counts are listed with a COMITissa variation, and they share the antler symbol with German Wessels.
By the way, Counts (very-likely a branch of Conans using the Sinclair cross) were first found in Durham (near Yorkshire), where I traced the Mieszko - Siward line, and then the buffalo horn of German Wessels can connect to the buffalo head of German Pohls/Pohlands (Silesia, in part of Poland), using a bull head (same colors, same design) as Mieske's/Mesechs (Meschin colors). This effectively traces the Cottius family to Mieszko, and so note that the VISTULA river flows through Masovia's capital, Warsaw, for Durham is on a Wear river. The Wessels are suspect solidly with VESTALis. Coincidence? I don't think so. It's revealing that Cottius had elements from the Vistula, and that his line became part of the Mieszko dynasty.
In my opinion, therefore, the Cottius > Vestalis line led to the Wassa/Gace and Goz bloodline. The latter not only married Conteville's in producing Ranulf le Meschin, and not only use white-on-blue stars that I traced to Mieszko's sons, but it now squares well with GOSpatricks of the Bernician fold to which Siward was connected (this well explains why the Dunkelds, from Gospatrick of Northumberland, married Meschins). In fact, as Gospatricks lead back to Bamburg Bernicians from queen Bebba, it can not only explain why German Babels/Babe's and the Arms of Warsaw use the Melusine mermaid, but it recalls that I traced the ancestry of the first-known Pepins (of Landon, Belgium) to queen Bebba...after deciding that mythical Popiel at Poland's "Mouse Tower" (= ancestry of Mieszko) was a Pepinid line. See the Popleys, looking like a branch of Bessins and Bistons (Meschins ruled the Bessin), first found in Yorkshire where the Meschins lived that married the Dunkeld dynasty.
There is much to glean from the above paragraph alone, including the ancient Melitene location in or beside the Mitanni theater, important where the Cottius line has been disclosed as a Mitanni one. The Drakenberg Vere's traced their beloved Melusine to the Mitanni. Again, the Modens/Modleys share the fretty lattice with Cotts. Mittens/Myrtons are using the two-headed Roman eagle, permissible by Caesar lines. This eagle design is used by Maxwells and Spocks/Specks, and then Speccots use yet another "fret." Speccots and Spocks/Specks were traced suggestively to a Numidian ruler, Syphax.
If the Spocks/Specks (porcupine could be code for Porcius Cato) trace to Cottius, and I think they do, note how their blue-and-white bars reflect those of the Chive's-related Cavetts from Ceva, for this helps to trace Ceva elements to Cottius. The Donnas/Dance coat uses blue bars too, but interspersed with GOLD BARS rather than the SILVER BARS of Spocks and Cavetts. I'm sure that these bars are in a Cave. See the same colors Cato Coat (said to be from "Chetel" suggesting the Chettle dancette and/or the Cattle fret). The same colors are used by Myrton-suspect Murtons/Myrtons
The Murths use the red lion once showing in the English Stewart Coat. It was changed shortly after I traced it to the Ullman lion, and the Ullman lion was also changed afterward to what the Stewart lion had become. I had these lines at Ulm of Germany, and in the Almos > Arpad line to Hungarian formation. The Monmouth lion was also that Ullmans and Stewarts, but it was changed too. It's important here that the Morte's/Mott can apply to the Monmouth, all Hasmonean entities (as was my argument) and the Morte's/Motts even traced to the Touques river (Normandy), location of Gace! Thus, the Mittens/Myrtons look like Mitanni, and the Wassa/Gace and Washington surnames do trace to the Mitanni capital. The Monmouth and related Mold/Maud Coats even use the Wassa/Gace double bars. The reason that all these elements are tracing to Cottius' Mitanni peoples is that Modane and Modi-in relate to Hasmoneans. It's now very important to trace the Ceva-related Cottius family to the Has location beside the Cavii. Have we got this all right?
The Murth Coat even uses the red fleur-de-lys (traces to Lissus beside the Cavii) shared by Julian-suspect Gellone's, which is thought to be the line to Guerin of Provence, in the Cottian zone. On the other side of the Cottians, there is a Saluzzo location to which I trace the Keturah > Cutter line from Abraham, VERY INTERESTING INDEED, and then we will see below that Ordu on the south shore of the Black sea was also called, Kytoros. The Keturah line traced without doubt to mythical Kodros of Athens, with a boar (and fish) symbol shared by the Porcius-Cato bloodline (developed a pork theme), VERY INTERESTING INDEED (means that Cato traced to the Athens boar symbol and to Keturah). The Ordu location traced to Ordovices at MONa, and Ordovices had a hammer symbol like that of HasMONeans.
Thus, when God said that Abraham would be the father of many nations, lookie here at how he traces to Cottius and his Modane entity. I recall tracing the river that Segusio sits at (or was it a neighboring river?) to the Biblical Og at the south-west side of Jerusalem, and he traced to mythical OGYGES at Athens, called Acte in his days and traceable possibly to Acton lines. The southwest side of Jerusalem faced Hebron, where Abraham lived. The northwest side of Jerusalem was home to Garebites, honored in the Wessel garbs.
If you look at the list of Keturah's children with Abraham (Genesis 25), you will see a Medan and Midian, suggesting that one of these sons led to the naming of the Mitanni on the Habur river of Babylon / AKKADia, much like "Hebron." Thus, Keturah is suspect as an Akkadian Hebrew (= Chaldee, like "Khaldi") from the Habur river. The mythical son of Kodros was Medon, you see, and another son of Kodros founded Ephesus, the Amazon city that represented Hephaestus...the one now tracing to Santones and very much involved with Kybele / Cabelees now tracing not-bad-at-all to the Cavii.
Back to the Gospatrick topic. Bebba was founder of Scottish Bebbanburg while German Babenbergs of Germany's Bamburg were founded by Poppo I at a GRAPfeld/GRABfeld location smacking of the Garb family...using garbs in the colors of the Joseph / Comyns / Wessel garb colors. It can be gleaned easily now that the Mieske/Mesech sword is the Bistones symbol, and that the mythical Piast character that toppled mythical Popiel at the Mouse Tower was a Bistones line (they lived in Cyrene, home of Meshwesh/Mazyes/Maxyes, several centuries BC). From the Bistones symbol, perhaps, "Siward" emerged as a version of the Sword surname (erect swords) honoring the Bistones symbol.
It should be added that, while Siward's ancestry was suspect in forming the first Scots, the Pohls/Pohlands are in the colors of Sitlers/SCHITners, and first found in the same place as Pohls, while Belgian Schuts' come up as "Schits" and share an upright black lion with Sitlers. Then, the Bass Coat (Bistones suspects) shares the black greyhounds with gold COLLARS with the Scutz/Shutz surname, and Collars/Callards (Moor heads) traced above to Cults/Celts (old Chaldeans?) of Pictland, where Swords were first found who use a white-skinned Moor head (Hasdrubal?). The erect black lion in the Collar Crest can apply.
The "Paratus" motto of the Swords goes to the Poratus=Prut line, probably to the Parthini Heneti from Genetes near Trabzon, where the Khaldi lived also that trace to Celts/Cults. The Picts had a CALEDonian tribe (can trace to the shot-through boar of Pollocks because that was a mythical theme of Calydon; see "Meleager") that named proto-Scotland for a while, and then the Trabzon area had a PYXITes river, probably not by coincidence. Amazons of that area settled Scotland, didn't they? Amazons are regarded as a feminine branch of mankind, and so ask why Scots wore dresses called Kilts. Are their bagpipes evidence that they were from mythical Pan, whose symbol was the flute?
Earlier, we saw a "counter-crossed saltireways" code of the Saints, where the Cross surname becomes suspect. The Collars use a CROSSbow, and so let's look at the Cross surname, keeping in mind that Collars just linked above to the Schut / Schit bloodline. It just so happens that Cross' use the potent cross shared by Skits and Scheds. That verifies that the Collar lion holding the crossbow is that of the Schutz / Schitner surname. The potent term traces to the Putna on the Moldova - Wallachia border, and the Faucets (same lion as Schitners) traced to Focsani very near the Putna. Putents lived in the same place (Sussex) as where Shutz-related Saddocks were first found.
The Bass', who look like they can link to the Trips and Hamburgs, can be connected to the Bassets that use the bars of Drummonds that trace to Thermodon, home of Amazons near Trabzon. That works. The Amazons had a close relationship with Georgia-suspect Gargarians, who lived at or beside the Soducena location. The Gargarians are suspect with Gorgons, and the Gorgon Medusa was linked by fanciful writers of old to the three mythical Graeae hags of north-Africa, to whom I trace "GREYhound." The Graeae are, as per the Bass Coat, now suspect in an alliance with, or even as, the Bistones of Cyrene. The Graeae had an eyeball as a symbol, suspect with the all-seeing-eye that I traced to the Arms of WITkowo (Poland), and therefore to the eyes of Watts, Vatts and Battins, as well as to SiemoWIT at the Mouse Tower, where we expect the Meshwesh Amazons from north Africa. That explains why Bistones trace to "Piast," the cult from which Mieszko was named. Therefore, whenever we see the arm and sword of the Mieske / Bessen / Biston surname, it's a Bistones line. Scottish Bass' were first found in the same place (Haddington) as Musselburgh, but "HADD" is suspect with the Keath "CATTi" and thus traces well to the Cottius and/or Cato family. Haddingtons can be using the Macclesfield cross in colors reversed.
The Weights/Waits (same motto as Heslingtons) are suspect with the Witkowo line, and they are the ones sharing black hunting horns with the Arms of Macclesfield. But German Bass'/Bassens use them too, but the Weights/Waits use them with gold stripes, as do the Arms of Traby where the strings of the horns look like code for 666. As Weights/Waits are an Illuminati line, this is important. The Weights are honored by the "two weights" (= a balance, trace to Trabys at Vilnius, where Mieszko Poles had alliances) of Dexters, and "dexterity" represents the right hand, where the 666 will be applied. The Kilpatricks, with a Patchie variation that must be a branch of Patch's/Paecci's using the two hunting horns of Bass', use the Levi lion with a dexter paw on the head of a dragon, what seems like an honoring of Revelation 13's 666 topic. Weights/White's (leopard FACES traces to Macclesfield Face/Fessy kin) share a green dragon in Crest with Kilpatricks, who of course are suspect with Gospatricks.
I traced the white-and-blue stars of the Mieszko line (should include the Goz surname) to Moray, where roughly white-on-blue Bissets were first found. Coincidence? No. More Bistones, now in the Ross and Moray theater.
The weight scales or balances are used by Cass' and Kiss', and this may be the line honored by the "Cas" motto term of English Josephs...highly suspect with the Count / Comyn / Mieszko line and definitely linking by their "charo" motto term to the Charo/CLARO line that, as Claro's/Sinclairs, honors the Counts / Conteville's and uses a "Saint" variation suggesting the Santones to which the Cavii can trace if they were from the Hephaestus Halybes. The Comyns use "A gold lion rampant holding in his dexter paw a dagger." The Decks are also "Dagger," a symbol of Mackays, and Dexters are also "Deckster." This effectively links the line of Joseph Caiaphas to the 666-loving Illuminati, and one would not be pressed hard to be convinced that the Illuminati should trace to the killer of Christ.
The Deck and Dyke squirrel is used by Sire-suspect Shire's (Kilpatricks are also "Shera") while Sire's/Sirets use the weight scale / balance as well as a snake coiled around a rod, the Huckabee symbol. Huckabee's use multiple blue chevrons, the color of the two chevrons used by both Hucks and Dexters. French Lamberts, suspect from Mieszko II Lambert, use these two chevrons in colors reversed on what looks like the Goz Shield. It is my opinion that the Seward and Sweit Coats are both using the two white Lambert chevrons, and this traced the Goz surname to GOSpatricks (Northumberland) if Siward of Northumberland was his kin. Siwards use the Mosca / Chives leopard design in purple. We get it.
If any designs do not match my claims when you are reading here, there is a 99-percent chance that the heraldry people changed the designs after I made the claims. One can understand that, with my comprehensive revelation of heraldry codes, and what they mean, the heraldry people will seek to spoil my claims by changing designs as best they can. But they are limited to what they can change, and their changes often help me to make further links.
The purple Seward leopards link to the purple-lion Meschin-Skiptons, right? So, you see, Seward of Northumberland was a Mieske / Meschin liner from the Mieszko Poles, and all that it means. The Mieszko trace to Durham, which was certain but foggy on the mechanics, can now be understood as a Goz trace to Gospatrick, who's daughter fathered William, son of Duncan II and husband of a Meschin of purple-lion Skiptons. In this picture, the gold Seward fesse is the Meschin / Mussel fesse.
The Saward variation could be a branch of Seagar-related Sawyers, and so where Seagars trace to "Segusio," it traces Siward to the Cottius family. That jibes where Vestalis traced to the Mieszko's in the first place. In fact, German Wessels were first found in the same place (Prussia) as Mieske's. The Wessels were suspect (without doubt in my mind) as a Wassa/Gace/Gasson branch, and Goz'/Goss' can trace to them (they share white stars, though not the same type of stars) by way of the red Washington stars shared by the Goss surname with a "Jose" variation possibly from a merger with Josephs.
I had traced the Cattolica location beside Rimini and Fano to the Cottians. I reasoned that Cattolica was not the original term, for many non-dictionary terms in geography become dictionary terms, not as-often vice versa. The Cattle's use a "fret," which links to the Cott fretty, you see, and fret is suspect with Ferte-Mace wherefore the Maschi's, first found in Rimini, were suspect in those days with Cottians. But in those days, I had not yet discovered that Julius Caesar married the Cottians. The Cottians were not yet important. Here I am now finding that the Cottius family definitely traces to the Mieszko / Meschin family. But we can probably go back in time, before Cottius, to the Rimna / Ramnicu entity of Moldova, and the Keaths (from a Catti tribe) with Seatons already traced to the Sitna of Moldova.
Therefore, the namers of Musselburg in the land of Keaths and Seatons should trace to Maschi's at Rimini, and it just so happens that MUSSOLini (the dictator) was from the Rimini area. The Mussolini surname (could surely be the Varn bend) even shares a string of lozenges with the Marshall branch of Keaths. The Mussel/Muscel wolf can then trace to the wolf symbol of Moldova. Mussolini's were first found in the same place (Bologna's) as spear-using Pace's/Pascels, and the latter were found to be merged definitely with Spears and thus linked to Spree's from the Spree river (Lusatia), and then the antler of the Wessels (Prussia, part of Lusatia) traced, I'm sure, to the red antler in the Arms of Spree-Neisse.
It just so happens that ShakeSPEARe's use the same bend colors as the Varn and Mussolini bends. That effectively links William Shakespeare to the Cottius - Mussolini line...suspect in Haddington. Why should Seaton liners be tracing to Cottius? Ask the proximity of Segusio to Sion/Sitten, or ask the Macey Shield of swan-using Sions/Swans, for Wessels use blue swans (suspect with the Caepio lion) and the Joseph (and Wheat/Wete) garbs. One can glean here that the Wessel horn links to the hunting horns of Weights, possibly code for the Horn surname (in Wessel-antler colors), first found in Durham (i.e. where the Cottius - Mieszko line traces). The last time we found a surname first found in Durham, it was the antler-using Counts/Comitissa's/Conte's. Isn't this fun? It's like jabbing the dragon in the all-seeing-eye.
Now here's another secret gone like a garbage can without a lid. Look inside, but plug your nose. The Wikipedia article of Kenneth MacAlpin has him donning a lattice symbol on his clothing, as does the Wikipedia article on mythical SiemoWIT of the Mouse Tower. That tells us, if we know our heraldry stuff, that people in this world know how the Cott lattice traces both to the Wit line out of Poland, and to the formation of the Scots from the Picts. That also explains why Wessels use a "wheat" term in their Coat description (i.e. Wessels were Vistula liners that were also in Witkowo and in the Mouse Tower). It's Wete rotting wheat; you don't want to eat this as the bread of life, because it's the yeast of the Pharisees that spreads sin through the entire batch of societal dough. The longer Illuminatists put a lid of this, the more it rots and stinks for the Day of Discovery.
With the Wessel buffalo horn tracing to the Pohl buffalo, and with Cottius liners merged with Mussolini's, we could even ask if the Pohls put out Mrs. Polzl, mother of Adolph Hitler (who formed an alliance with Mussolini). In fact, I had traced her to the Rimini Maschi's and to the Cattolica > Cottian line before I knew of this Cottius link to Pohls, Mieszko's and Mussolini's. Hitlers are listed with Hiedlers, but the heraldry people don't allow "Hitler" to bring up a Coat, deviants putting a lid on things sacred to them. The Hoods, whom I thought were Hitler liners, share the fret with Cattle's. About the time of this Hitler trace to Cattolica (there was more reason to it), I started to entertain the Julian/Gillian cross as the makings of the swastika, a term like "Astika" of Lithuania, with whom the Trabys merged, and so this now argues very hard that Julius Caesar married the Cottius family when he married Aurelia Cotta, and yet the writer of Wikipedia's Julius-Caesar article puts a lid on this, as do yeast-loving historians...all of them, apparently.
The Aureli family (named after gold?) could be using a version of the Goz Shield. The Orrels link by their common torteaux to Orrs, first found in the same place as Pohl-suspect Pollocks and Spears. You understand that Wessel symbols trace directly to Pohls and Spree elements, and so we are finding here that a surname in honor of Cottius' son traces to Aurelia Cotta...just as though the heraldry garbage collectors knew what they were putting lids on. It's interesting that Saxons, who, for the first time in this or the last update became suspect with "Fulbert "the Saxon" (Pollock founder), look to be using a version of the Orell Coat (scarlet annulets), and then the only two surnames I know of using scarlet, the colors of the Revelation-13 dragon, are Saxons and dragon-using Trashers/Tresure's (if they are not scarlet when you see them, they have been changed). The Caepio treasure was the root of all evil spread throughout the world dough, wasn't it? Killing and killing and killing all history long for this stash of gold trash. Wheats and Trashers/Treasure's share stags in their Crests (not the same design).
The Aureli family (I think Wikipedia has an article) is suspect with the Caepio's, is it not? It's as though the first family that Quints entrusted the gold too was named after gold. In any case, Cottius lived just after Quintus found the bars, and we may expect that Vestalis got to be a keeper too. Did they hide them under the Mouse Tower?
That tower was at Goplo (founded by a Goplani peoples), a term that can trace to the Gabuleum location beside the Cavii. The Masci wing design has been changed after years of my tracing it to certain surnames. The Chaine's and French Gobels used it (Diens/Dives' of Diva = Chester, in Meschin colors, still use it, and Diens and Deins are suspect with Donnus lines in Sussex. Both the Chaine and Gobel wing designs changed, to my chagrin, and the Masci wing has also been changed to that design in the last few weeks/months. There must be more to such changes than a trivial like or dislike of a certain design. We can still glean that French Gobels are using the Macey Shield, but it compares well to the Goz Coat too, thus indicating rather strongly that Gobels are Goplo liners from Cottius liners.
An important point here is the camel of Italian Gobels, suggesting the Campbells/Cammells, other keepers of the Caepio gold. Camels/Camule's were first found in the same place (Somerset) as Trashers/Treasure's. Campbells are suspect with the gold mines at Ampelum, and that term may be in Amabel of Meschin, who on her father's side was from Gospatrick. Amabel was of COPEland rulers, perhaps traceable to "GOPlo." Copeland is at Westmorland, where Wessels were first found, and Copelands are the one sharing the Washington bars (important because Wessels are suspect as forming Washingtons). Morleys (Lancashire, same as Orrels and Saxons) and Moreland/Morelys (Westmorland) share the same symbols.
I have traced "Drummond" the "THERMOdon" elements because it works well, partly because Drummonds share three horizontal bars with the Arms of Trebizond Empire. Again, the Khaldi were at the Thermodon area, and Drummonds were first found in the same place as Celts/Cults. But there's more. The TRUMps (in German Drummond colors) smack of "DRUMmond" and linked earlier in this update to Celts/Cults. I recall tracing Drummonds to Mecklenburg (a MACCLEsfield-like term) where Trumps were first found, partly because Drummonds were first found in Hamburg... where Trabzon-suspect Trips were first found.
Fame's/Fane's/Veyne's (Mackay sept), from Fano, beside fret-suspect Cattolica, were first found in Monmouthshire, suspect with Moldavians of the Mold/Maud kind. Ask Rimini to the side of Cattolica why this Moldavian trace should take place. Why do Fane's/Veyne's use gold-metal gloves? We need to ask John of Gaunt at Candale. The Fane-related Bains/Vains (another sept of Mackays) use another gold Shield in the Crest, a small one like the one of Weavers/Webbers and Scute's. Although the Gaunts/Gants (Kent) look like the Cantii founders of Kent, they show a wolf rather than a horse, and it may be the Norry wolf, for Gaunts (Flemings) are expected to trace to the Rimna river (home of Dacians) with Rimini / Fano elements. Why should the Norry trace to Fano elements? Ask the Nairi at lake Van, then go to the Neuri suspect in Moldava, and while we're at it, see the Nairn location at Ross-shire, where the Geddes lived who can trace to the Getae Thracians, the known founders of Dacians.
As Vrancea is at the Rimna river, but what coincidence was Hugh D'Avrances styled, "Lupus." The Hugh Lupus wolf is in the colors of the Dutch-Ghent fesse. Where the Gaunts and Ghents trace to the Centaur liners at Moldova, expect them to have been the Heneti, from a "Genetes." The Amazons around Genetes (south shores of the black sea) had a wolf symbol when their goddess, Artemis, was on the north shores of the Black sea. A Gaunt trace to Genetes tends to link Gaunt with Trypillians, if that helps to equate Flemings with fire-loving Trypillians. Recall the horrific human sacrifices of daughters and sons (Tyre and Carthage were infamous for this) on fires as portrayed by Hercules' death.
I traced the one (I think his name was Poias) who lit the fire under Hercules (at his willing death) to Powys in Wales because Hercules was in Erethlyn (Wales) killing Geryon. Here's some old history which includes Ordu, what I identified as the line to Geryon's two-headed mythical Orthos dog in Wales:
According to Strabo's description of the cities of the [south-Black sea] region, after Jason (Cape Yasun to the west of Ordu) came Genetes and its inhabitants, then to the east was KYTOROS (Ordu), which was located in Pharakiaia, Iskhopolis (which was in ruins) and Kerasos (Giresun), a city of medium size. Then came Trapezus (Trabzon) near Herinonassa and Strabo finally refers to another centre of population, namely Zigopolis (Zigana).I had not recalled or known about a city of Jason beside Ordu, but that works especially well for an Aeson>Jason trace to the naming of Iasi along with the Ixion Centaurs that I see from Genetes. Moreover, the Cimmerians had been at this part of the Black sea (at Sinop) from about 722 BC, and they are expected in Wales in more than one wave. It was as they got stationed at Sinop that they conquered Lake Van, though by that time the Nairi may have been gone. The Biaini founders of Lake Van smack of the Bain surname and it's variations, while Vain and similar variations of the same family smack of "Van." That should explain why the Norry wolf design is used by Gaunts of Kent, kin of Fane's/Veynes/Vains/Vane's.
The Cimmerians of Sinop conquered what was then Urartu, and it just so happens that Irish Arthurs use the Shield of Wayne's (Essex) sharing GOLD gauntlet gloves with Fane's/Veyne's. The ermines used by Wayne's should be code for a line from "Armenia." I've read that ermines originate in Vannes of Brittany, location of a Veneti peoples, if that helps to trace back to "Heneti" (i.e. Lake Van was inhabited / founded by Heneti).
It's the Mus area of Lake Van that traces to king Massena, and to Massa at Carrara. Nearby, there is the Genoa location beside Savona, and then back in Armenia, Lake Van named lake Sevan. It allows one to entertain a Van identify for "Genoa/Geneva and/or Geneva," though these terms can also go to "Genetes." Vannes in Brittany goes also by a capital-G term, and Gwynedd of northern Wales, where Ordovices lived, was founded by a Venedotia peoples that I trace to Veneti at Vannes. But these Welsh and Brittany Bretons had roots at the Prut river, my new understanding. Thus, the Lake-Van Heneti were at Moldova, my new understanding, and this allows a Nairi trace to the naming of the Neuri, as well as a Mus element in Moldova that could go to Numidians. I would dearly like to know what named Numidia.
See also the wolf of English Fiens, first found in Kent, with the Coat colors and format of the Fane's/Veynes/Fiens'. Don't be misled by the write-ups. French Feins are using the Arms of Trebizond Empire, an empire founded by Comyns-suspect Komnenos. If you are an expert historian, with degrees in history, you've been filled with plenty of trash. You need to re-program. The first order is to reject your educators as supreme, and think for yourself. Good historians do this, but some good historians are lids on the truth.
Candals (cross style shared by Savoy) look like Burghs, and therefore like Conteville's through Comyns. Italian Candals are the Candie's/Candida's that were in-part in Savoy. It is known that this family named Gandia in Spain, in Safor, where the Safer swans trace. The prediction is that the Vrancea area of Moldova provided the Mus > Massena bloodline to Numidians, and these were up at north-West Italy at Hannibal's war there, afterwhich they merged with the Cottius family, and furnished the Burgo-Conteville's on or near the Tanaro. This was the Savona swan (mythical Cygnus) leading to the swan at Alba (Tanaro location, see Alba surname), then to the swan of the French Josephs, while the Comyns / Wessel garbs got to English Josephs. The Joseph-suspect Keld surname trace to "Khaldi" smack at Genetes.
Now is a good time to mention that Pascani location on the modern Siret, for while the Sitna elements to its near-north traced to the Setta and Savena rivers flowing to and at Bologna, the PASCeli's/Pace's (in the colors of French Pascals, Dauphine, where Payens were first found), were first found in Bologna. This recalls a reader (with a Payen bloodline) who informed me on how Payens were also "duPuy," which may suggest also "duPay," important because "Pay" gets the Pasceli/Pace surname...with a Pagan-like PACENti variation. This jibes very well with the Payen liners, Panico's, in the Setta valley. The "passe" motto term of Rollo's gets the Pascals using red eagles...that I trace to Lake Van, and as I identified "Van" with mythical Pan, as a line to mythical Phoenix at Panias/Banias (Mount Hermon), I would suggest that the Paioni/Paeoni peoples were core Van liners. This is how the Pan flute can go from Khaldi to the Scot kilts, and why the Atlantic ocean, beyond Scotland, traces to mythical Atalanta of Calydon. "She" (who shot the Calydonian boar first) was in Scotland, wasn't she?
Pascani (beside Neamt) is up the Siret from Roman about 30 miles, and the Rome/Room motto is the ones honoring Pungesti, another Payen entity to the near-east of Roman. The Rome's/Rooms (in Pascal-cross colors) were first found in the same place as Annandale, and the Passe/Pascal Coat uses the fat cross in the colors of the similar Annandale saltire. The Levi lions are suspect around the Pascal cross.
The Pascals are said to be from Pasci in Eure, and the Eure surname uses a version of the Hanan Coat. The Eure (location of Evreux and Rouen) area is where proto-Sinclairs lived (the Rollo Sinclair line had its capital at Rouen, a location suspect as "Roman." I can't recall the details, but had found that some Rome entity was involved at Rouen. Here is the Rouen/Rohan surname (nine hollow lozenges called "mascles") said to be "well established at Dol." Compare with the seven mascles (in the same colors) of Quince's...indicating the possibility that Quintus-Caepio lines were at Dol with Rouens. An heraldic "quince" is used by Sforza's, first found in Rome. The Alans of Dol share a red fesse with Rome's/Rooms and Augusts.
I don't stress the following much because it's a long story to convince readers that it's true. In short, a Hyksos peoples passing through early Israel, and hiding out from Israelis with Amorites of Jerusalem, merged with Benjamites. The 600 Benjamites at Rimmon (book of Judges) are the proto-Romans. I'll give one piece of evidence that should be enough for you. In Judges, the 600 Benjamites were given 400 wives from Jabesh-Gilead, and this location, suspect with Jebusites of Jerusalem, became the chief Roman god, Jupiter, from the Japodes. Jabesh = Japodes. Rimmon = Rimini = Rome.
When I discovered this, it was as per a special dream (I don't get very many) that led to the discovery, telling me that Masci's (the dream included the Masci surname) were central in the Benjamite-Jabesh merger, and so the Maezaei in the land of the Japodes must apply. The dream also explained why Maschi's were first found in Rimini. The dream was undeniably a message from God to my readers.
I now have reason to trace the Benjamite-Jabesh merger to the Rimna river beside Vrancea. Ranulf le Meschin became a ruler of Chester only because the Avrances family ruled it, and as "mascle" is of the Masculine/Maskely variation of Meschins, or the Muscel variation of Mussels, or the Maskaly variation of Maschi's, one can ask whether mascle-using WinCHESTERs were named partly after Chester in Cheshire, and partly after Quints. Chester is where Hugh D'Avrances ruled for the Sinclair dynasty, and then the Maschi pine cones are part-code for the Cone-related Conte's that led to Hugh's mother (Emma de Conteville). We just saw for the first time how the Cottius family relates to this, and so one really can trace the 600 Benjamites to Cottius. The Copelands to which Cottius liners trace use a "Benigno numine" motto perhaps for Benjamin-Massena elements. The black Copeland bend is suspect with the Massey-using Hanan and Eure Coat.
Let's now take a look at the two Benjamin surnames, assuming that at least one was reserved for the Benjamite-Jabesh line. English Benjamins (annulets) appear to be using a version of the Roxburgh Walsh Coat (a Mund-format Coat), and it happens to use a colors-reversed version of the Shutz Coat. This Benjamin Coat is as close as I've yet to find anything resembling the Shutz saltire. It was my opinion from certain clues that the Walsh's were using the Maxwell saltire, and the same may be true of Benjamins, especially as I traced Maxwells to the Rijeka location of the Japodes theater. The flames in the Benjamin Crest could indicate Trypillians.
As Walsh's look like Walkers, and tracing with Bush's to the Buzau theater, note the description of French Benjamins: "a silver bear WALKING. French Benjamins have variations like the "jamais" motto term of the Flemish Douglas', and the latter share a heart with Walker-suspect Wagers. The Roxburgh Walsh's are traced in their write-up to a tenant of a Douglas earl. The variations makes it hard to know whether they are a true line from any Benjamin entity.
The tree stump of the Walsh's can go to the same of Rutland-based Rodhams (Leicester's Rutland), and that would tend to identify the Walsh swan with the Leicester swan. The Arms of Leicester uses the ermined Hamelton and Bus cinquefoil, from Nahorites in my opinion (Kemuel and Buz, two sons of Nahor, brother of Abraham). The Buz surname is suspect at the naming of Bozrah, and so the Bush's ought to trace to Buz as much as to Bozrah. This verifies what was gleaned earlier, that Shutz's ought to trace to Nahorite-branch Neuri off the Bug river. The Douglas', who are working their way into this discussion, are said to be from the "Hardy" family, and Hardys (Herod suspects) share the black Edomite boar with Bush's.
My dream (as I awoke from sleep) assured, that very morning, that the Benjamite-Jabesh line went though Pelops (his father was of Atlantis, at Attaleia of Pisidia) and his Amazonian wife in Pisa (her father had a chariot-wheel symbol, suggesting Ixion), as well as through Chrysippus and Laius (the latter looked like the 600 Danites in relation to Laish). The 600 code is suspect with "hex" and "Hyksos," and, if correct, traced the 666 to end-time Hyksos liners. You can read about this dream in the 5th update of December, 2012.
Pelop's wife had a father with a Oeneus-like name (Oenomaus), tracing to the Una = Oeneus river of the Japodes, the river that named Juno (Jupiter's wife). The Oeneum to the south of the Cavii, also called the Mathis, may apply, and it just so happens that mythical Methoni (name of a real place in Messene suspect with the Mitanni) was fathered by Oeneus. Suddenly, the Catherine wheel should trace to Keturah lines at Pelopian Pisa while the Mathis surname is revealed as a Mitanni line.
Pelops was the golden-fleece bloodline, now suspect as an Esau > Aeson > Iason line to Corinth, where Jason lived with the Colchian princess, Medea (her symbol was a chariot pulled by dragons). This line should be that of SISYphus at neighboring SICYon, and this latter city was at an ASopus river ("pus" is a suffix, so "As' is the root). The Asopus rivers, more than one, are thereby suspect with "Esau."
Sicyon put out the Telchines of Rhodes, and Sisyphus put out Bellerophon at Lycia, the line to the Massey pegasus, to fight and defeat the Cimmerians of Rhodes. Helios of Rhodes is the one with a flying chariot symbol, and so Medea was his kin. One can assume the Sisyphus > Bellerophon line going to king Massena, and by that route to Herods, named after Rhodes elements, likely. If that traces Horites to the naming of Rhodes, note that Kos is beside Rhodes, suspect with a Kos deity of Edom. Both Rhodes and Edom were red entities. God hated Rhodes, but loved Jacob, didn't He?
Let's assume that the Trypillians were involved with king Massena. At about 70 AD, when the family of Caiaphas had to flee Jerusalem, one would expect that they would eventually find Trypillian lines in northern Italy, probably around the Trebia / Tanaro, right? I think that's what happened. It has to do with Panico's using the Masci fleur (both surnames from Lake Van), or at least Comyns colors. If the Comyns were named after Comana, where Herod Archelaus married, it underscores a Massey-Herod relationship. Comana was at Cappadocia, which had a capital at Mazaca, later called Caesarea, the name also of the Numidian capital (African Amazons / Amizighens were also "Mazices," and similar terms). The Comana wife of Herod Archelaus was previously married to a descendant of king Massena, named Juba, possibly after Jabesh / Japodes elements.
The wife's name. Glaphyra, was traced to Clavers/Cleavers using the Meschin-Coat format. The key in the Claver Crest can indicate Chiavari (Liguria), for just as Charo's are "Claro," Chiavar" can morph to 'Claver," or vice versa. This is new to me, that the Chiava/Sheaves/Chiapponi's were from Glaphyra lines, likely from Juba rather than Herod. It tends to verify an old claim, that Clavers were Claro's = Sinclairs. See the Cliffs/Cleaves and other Cliff-using surnames for other Juba-suspect lines. Clifftons use a motto term, "Tenaz," like the Zenata area of Numidia that I say named Thanet in Kent. Cliffords (first found in the same place as Cliffs/Cleaves) use "Semper PARATUS," a motto used by the Arms of L'viv, and so that helps to trace also to the Prut/Puratus river, important where Certa of the Numidians traces to the Siret.
Copelands are the ones using a Benjamin-suspect motto term but with another term tracing to Numidians. If Juba was a Jabesh-Benjamin line, and so was Massena, it goes likely to Ceva / Cottius and his line to Julius Caesar. It suggests that the Benjamites retained supreme or near-supreme power from the founding of Romans until Caesar himself.
Note how Gube's/Gobys (in French Julian colors) are traced to a Gopher-like term. for Gophers share a white saltire with French Julians. The latter's saltire is in both colors of the Gospatrick saltire, and then I trace "Patrick" to the Roman Patricians from whom Caesar derived. The Gube's are clearly related to English Pine's using what could be the Shield of Macey-related Wayne's, but the Gube and Pine pineapples (like the Maschi pine cones) suggest the footless martlets (= Lemnos > Limousin line) of the Apple's / Applebys and can thus trace to Appleby near Copeland / Westmorland. French Pine's (in Cope / Copp colors) were first found in Limousin. Could "Gube/Goby" and "Juba" go to "Cope / Goplo"? How much sense does it make to trace Mieszko's at Goplo to a Massena > Juba line? Was this the Caepio lion? Don't Cupids/Cobbetts and Certs/Cards use that lion? The Gube's/Gobys were first found in the same place (Dorset) as Quints.
As Siward's HESlington house has a Crest tracing tentatively to HASdrubal, brother of Mago, by what coincidence was Heslington also called "Siward's Howe" while the House/Howes surname share clouds in Crest with Cubits? Of some interest, the Susans, using only a lily in House/Howes colors, were first found in the same place (Berkshire) as House's/Howes'. The Susans were looked up as per "Susa." "Siward / Sigurd" is now tracing to "Segusio," the old version of Susa.
The Siges surname is listed with Sage's and uses a chevron in the colors of the Gube/Goby chevron, VERY INTERESTING NOW. But my time is up for this update.
One more thing. The Jephson variation of Jeffersons was thought to trace to Jabesh / Jebusite elements, and Jeffersons use a blue leopard face centrally as well as what could be construed as the York saltire in a colors reversed situation but where the York saltire is in the colors, for example, of the Copper/Cooper saltire. That allows the Jefferson leopard to be the Caepio lion while the Jefferson saltire can connect with Copeland elements. Otherwise, I traced the Jefferson saltire to the Messeys/Mesnier's, all good for tracing to Benjamites of the Jabesh merger.
The Arms of Copeland use a blue lion and share a white griffin with Welsh Jeffersons. No guff. The Arms of Copeland also use croziers (like the Crois variation of Cruce's) while the Jeffersons use a "cruce" motto term (the Cruce and Crozier Coats above show use identical fat crosses in the colors of the fat Jefferson saltire). No guff. French Croziers (Auvergne / Rodez) share the Jefferson besant.
Jeffersons can definitely trace to the Cottius lines. I had traced Jeffersons (forgotten the details) to the Fano / Cattolica area before knowing what you read in this update concerning the Cottius traces to Maschi's. I had also traced Jeffersons to Griffins using a "velis" motto term that, as per the Velis/Vail surname, gets what looks to be a Julian branch (shares the black Julian cross).
The rest of the Gog-in-Iraq story is in PART 2 of the
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