The Arundel Table Bloodline of Roslin Wassa Rosy Rodez Line to Princess Rozala
The Rozala-Creuse Templars from Elite Tuscany
The "Real" King Arthur was Arduin of Turin
Taddei, I have found the Other Templar Nest
Waleran of Yvery, Father of Leavells with Percivals, Threw me for a Lupus
How the Conqueror's Father Traces to Tedaldus and Willa of Italy
The Porphyria Disease Looks to be from Tedaldus Liners such as Tuttle's and Dudleys
For a reader hopping into an update for the first time, there is not much I can say in an introductory paragraph to explain everything needed before proceeding. The only readers able to follow are those taking the time needed to get a solid idea of the entire scope. It is probably impossible to follow unless the heraldic Coats are loaded and viewed. It would be helpful to have a photographic memory, or to at least spend some time to get to know Coats, and to understand what I'm saying about them. I did the work over years to be able to present to you the relevant Coats, and you need only decide whether I am correctly interpreting the evidence and the codes. It is far best that you load Coats on a separate browser(s) rather than clicking back and forth from the update page. It might take longer for one to read an update than the week it takes me to write it, but that's what it'll take for a solid understanding of what I'm doing. I know that few have the time to follow this in that way. My hope is...actually, I should have no such hopes as I should just allow God to do what He wants with this. One of my goals at this time is to discover the parent(s) of Josephs Caiaphas, and in the meantime to prove that heraldic masters and leading Templar families knew that all of heraldry had, at its foundations, Caiaphas and his circle of Christ killers. These updates are jot-down format (sub-titles don't usually reflect the roaming topics well) making it hard / impossible to have a pre-plotted storyline. I'm no longer doing final proof-reads, please excuse the imperfections / mistakes.
The last update was phenomenal for me. It found some important lines to the rulers of Arundel, who were Alans from Shropshire, with indications that they were indeed from Dol, and therefore at least cousins of the line to royal Stewarts. I developed a theory that Arundels were named after an Aaron of the Levi kind, and only afterward found evidence that Arundel circles traced to the Ticino river, and likely the Laevi. When I got to Adeliza of Louvain, wife of the first earl of Arundel, time ran out for the update. After putting it online, I started to wonder about Adeliza's other husband, Henry I of England. How did he get that name? The first three sons of his parents (William the Conqueror and Matilda of Flanders, a Baldwin liner) were named after Normans, but Henry, the fourth son, was not. I could not spot any Henry in his ancestry going back a few generations into the historical darkness. I wanted to find some clues for his trace to a Henry of Rodez.
By this time, I had concluded that the Dol Alans were strong kin of the Henry surname from Henrys of Rodez, and here a wife of a Dol Alan (I feel sure that the Alans of Arundel were from Dol) also married a Henry. Let's put this into perspective, because I sense that the Henrys of Rodez (perhaps not all) were Herod liners. The first Crusaders were largely Normans and Flanders-related peoples. One gets the distinct impression that the first Crusade was largely due to, or closely involved, the marriage of the Conqueror to Matilda if Flanders, for the first Crusade was shortly after they died (about a decade after the Conqueror died). The Herods trace to Herod "the great," the renovator of the Jerusalem temple. Herod liners in the family of the Normans could spur an invasion of Jerusalem if there was motive enough. After all, vikings were stupid enough to march all that way merely for a chance at finding / securing gold, and ruin many men and families in the process.
It turned out that Arundel was named after the Arun river in Sussex, a term much like "Aaron," and Sussex is where Sadducee-suspect Saddocks were first found. It was discovered in the last update that Alans of Arundel were part of the rulers of Saluzzo and Ceva, the latter suspect with Joseph Caiaphas until I prove otherwise. The Fitzalans of Arundel traced in particular to Thomas of Saluzzo, and his name made it to more than one heraldic Thomas surname, and moreover to the Great Seal of the United States. It could be shown that Thomas of Saluzzo was a line to the CHIEF of the escutcheon in the Great Seal, important because the heraldic Chief is suspect as code for "CAIAPHas," while an ESCUTcheon is suspect with certain Sadducee liners of the Schutz/Shutz kind. I have never noticed until now that ESCUTCHEon even has the look of "SADDUCEE."
The reason that Caiaphas gets the Chief (upper third) of an heraldic Shield seems obvious enough: heraldry was fashioned systematically by those who descended from Caiaphas, and also by anti-Christian imposters so that the one who got the Romans to kill Jesus is naturally going to be their favorite symbol. Caiaphas liners became suspect from Luisa of Ceva (near Saluzzo), an ancestor of the fitzAlans of Arundel, and there was evidence to show that her family circle included the Chives', a Caiaphas-like surname if ever we saw one.
After time ran out for the update, I got to Wikipedia's article on Arundel, not knowing until then where it was located. It turns out that while Henrys share the footless martlet with French Josephs and French Alans, and while Alencon is not far from Maine, where French Josephs were first found, Arundel is right beside the Hampshire area where English Josephs were first found, whom are known to descend from a Henry Joseph: "Joseph family history is first recorded in one Henry Joseph, who lived in Hampshire in 1191". It makes one wonder whether the ancestry of king Henry I was from Josephs, and so just wait and see.
But first, before I deliver the bomb, see this: "[Arun] contains the towns of Arundel, Bogner Regis and Littlehampton..." The Bognor surname was checked, and while it was first found in Silesia, it uses a vertically-split Shield in the colors of the same of English Thomas'. Amazing coincidence. The Shield-and-Chief color combination of Welsh Thomas' is that of Saluzzo's. The Bognors/BOGENers put a large nail in the middle of their Saluzzo-colored Shield, and the German Nails/Neils/Nagle's are in the same colors. The Irish Henrys are said to be from the territory of the O'Neills, and while Nagle's use a "Non" motto term, Irish Henrys use "NUNquam," important because Nons/Nevins (same fesse as Dols) were traced to Boofima, and the Imperi peoples were traced to Imperia/Oneglia, very near Antipas-like Antibes, itself in the Rhodanus-river theater. Therefore, the naming of Herod Antipas became suspect with Antibes, and ARDuinici of Oneglia became suspect with "Herod":
In 72 B.C. the Roman General Pompey, while on the way back to Rome after a military campaign in Spain founded a Roman colony [in what would later be Comminges]. The goal was to defend the passage to the Aran Valley [like "Arun(del)"] and the Iberian peninsula. The colony was named Lugdunum Convenarum [later Comminges]...It is believed to have been the place of exile from 39 AD of Herod Antipas, with his wife Herodias, under Caligula's orders...
In 1083 [during the life of the Conqueror] a knight related to the Counts of Toulouse, Bertrand de l'Isle-Jourdain, canon of Saint Augustine in Toulouse, was nominated bishop of Comminges. He ordered the construction of the cathedral and of the Romanesque cloister. The place became used by pilgrims as a stage on the route to Santiago de Compostela [like the "compony" symbol of Foix-suspect Faucets].
Bertrand de l'Isle was canonised and became known as Saint-Bertrand in the 13th century and Lugdunum Convenarum became known as Saint-Bertrand-de-Comminges. The term Comminges itself comes from the Latin word "Convenae", meaning "those who came together" at Pompey's new settlement. Commingle has the dictionary definition of 'to bring together', 'to blend' or 'to mix' and encompasses people, foodstuffs and high finance transactions.
It just so happens that Herod's brother, Archelaus, was banished earlier to Vienne, smack beside another Lugdunum of that Rhodanus-river area. Assuming that "Comminges" derived as play on "Convenarum," it would compel me to view the Comines / Commins / Comyn locations of the Conteville's, and the Commings/Comyns surname, as directly related to the home of Herod Antipas, especially as Herluin de Conteville married the Conqueror's mother. As the Conqueror was a Sinclair liner, though this is a thing that historians seem to ignore, we then find Henry Sinclairs, starting at least as early as the lifetime of the Conqueror, suggesting that something of the Henry's of Rodez married the Conqueror's kin.
LittleHAMPton (in Aran-like Arun) is like HAMPshire. It just so hamppens that the "Nunquam" motto term of Henrys is shared by HAMPsons, and the latter throw in an "aut" motto term that I traced from others to "Aude," the area wherein Roquefeuil is located, where Henry IV of Rodez got his wife. "Coincidences" like this is what I thrive on; they inform me that heraldry is nothing but code for related surnames. If it were not so, I would not be able to continue on like this for years in a row. I can't be the first person, or even the 1000th, to discover such codes plastered all over heraldry. You just saw why Henrys should trace to Henry of Rodez, and in the meantime to Arundel circles suspect from Comminges.
The line of Fitzalans to Henry Percy had merged with the Neville's that go back Ralph Neville, husband of ALICE AUDley. The Audley Crest is using the Vipont wings.
The collared, black greyhound head in the Hampson Crest is suspect with the same of Schutz's, and as the latter's saltire is the same as that of Salways/Solways, the latter become suspect as Swallow / Saul liners that link to the swallows in the Arundel Coat. But as the Noons/None's/Nuns use the same saltire, look at "NUNquam" yet again to understand the couched reality. Hampsons must have invented their "hempBRAKES" symbol as code for Brake's, first found in the same place (Shropshire) as Dol Alans, and using the Quint chevron in colors reversed. Brake's show a Brech variation while a Breuci peoples (left of map below) lived at the upper Sava river, where I've traced Alan-related Gore's. JOURdains look like the reason for the Jore variation of Gore's. The "TouJOURs" motto term, shared by Gards and Yonge's, can be for either the Gore's or Jourdains. I'll get to the Jourdain surnames soon.
The Hampshire surname has a page, but no Coat is shown. I wonder why. The Hamptons, first found in Staffordshire, where Staffs use the same chevron as Quints, use a chevron in half the colors, and Quinces were first found in NorthAMPTON. Quints and Quince's are all about a vast amount of gold that the Crusaders were likely seeking. AMPs/Impys likewise use a chevron in the two colors of the Quint chevron. And it can now be realized that the Hampton cinquefoils are specifically colors reversed from the same of Welsh Thomas'! This gets the Saluzzo line of Thomas and Alice (his daughter) to the Hampshire area, where Josephs await my means of disclosing that they were from Caiaphas. I had a special revelation telling that Caiaphas liners would be of Avezzano, only to find that Avisons share the garbs of English Josephs, but the last update found a black anchor, symbol of the Avison Crest, in the Crest of Welsh Thomas'.
In the last update, Hansons became a topic suspect with "Annas," the name of Caiaphas' father-in-law. I now see that English Hansons were first found in the same place (Yorkshire) as Hampshire's, and then I had spotted (last update) the Hampson variation of Irish Hansons. They come up as "Hamp, as do the Hamptons. The Henry significance of the other Hamspons was not known until this update, while writing above. It can begin to reveal that Hampshire and neighboring Hampton was named by an Annas line, as though plenty of Israeli-priesthood liners settled Sussex and Hampshire, not to mention Somerset further to the west, where Leavells were first found. And Louvains were first found in Kent, on the east side of Sussex. Littlehampton is said to have been "Hantone" before 1086.
For the record, there is a Houghton location in Arun, which is a surname like the Hoffs and Coughs/Cuffs, suspect with Saluzzo liners of the Sale kind that have been traced to the Avezzano area even before Avezzano became a topic. There is a Hanton surname listed with Hintons that use fleur-de-lys in the colors of the same of Sale's and Cuffs, but also of Caiaphas-suspect June's. The fleur-de-lys of Irish Hansons/Hamptons can apply. Fleur-de-lys trace to Lissus with Lys'/Lisse's, first found in the same place as Levi's and Chappes'. Lissus is in the area where ancient Cavii lived that I trace to Chives' and Ceva. June's are from Caepio's and Caepionis', where I trace Quints and Quince's. The latter share mascles with English Hansons, who in-turn use their mascles (hollow lozenges) in the colors of the lozenges of Shaws, who have one branch coming up as "Seth," the name of Annas' father. The "Sithech" term to which Shaws are traced in their write-up was found (last update) to be from the Styche's/Sticks, who share gold garbs with Avisons and Josephs.
It would be good for the developing picture if it was added that there is a giant fleur-de-lys in the Cake Coat, in the colors of the fleur of the Hanton/Hinton Chief. Cake's were suspect with Sitric Caech, and were first found in the same place (Cambridgeshire) as June's and Capone's. There was a trio of Junia Caepionis' who got suspect with the ancestry of Joseph Caiaphas.
When looking at the family tree of king Henry I of England, there was Hugh Capet, his great-great-grandfather. As Hugh married Adelaide of Aquitaine, of an area beside, or even encompassing, Rodez, I started at her article seeking another Henry, hoping also to find links to Herods of Comminges. It bears repeating, for new readers jumping in here, that Commings likewise use the garbs of Josephs and Avisons, in both colors. Going back through the dukes of Aquitaine, it was found that one Ebalus had a Jewish mother: "Ebalus or Ebles Manzer or Manser (c. 870 – 935) was Count of Poitou and Duke of Aquitaine on two occasions...Ebles was an illegitimate son of Ranulf II of Aquitaine. 'Manzer' or "Mamzer' is a Hebrew word that means bastard, son of a gentile man and Jewish woman." His Jewish mother is not given. His son had a supposed nickname that included the term, "Caput," translated as "head," and yet one can see that this was code for the Capets.
When we get to Ebalus' father, the bomb falls: "Ranulf II...was Count of Poitou from 866 and Duke of Aquitaine from 887...Ranulf was a son of Ranulf I and Bilichild of Maine. He married an Ermengard (died 935) and by her had a son, Ranulf III, who succeeded him in Poitiers. His illegitimate son Ebalus succeeded him in Aquitaine and, upon the death of Ranulf III, in Poitiers too." So, Ebalus' mother has been assumed by others to have been Jewish, and the Wikipedia writer doesn't flinch while stating this, and then Abalus' father is from a women in Maine, where Josephs were first found. Moreover, Payen-suspect BILLets/BILLIets (use virtually the same Coat) were first found in Maine, a surname like "BILIchild."
So, what we have is a family of Aquitaine that married Capets, using "Caput" as a nickname, and marrying a woman from the same place as Caiaphas suspects whom had a branch in Hampshire, beside the Caiaphas suspects from Ceva and Saluzzo. And the Billets are suspect with heraldic billets, which are metal bars such as gold and silver, suspect with the vast gold-bar treasure of Quintus Caepio (pre-dated Herod "the great" by two or three generations), which he obtained in Toulouse, across from Comminges, where a son of Herod "the great" went to live, as though he knew of that vast treasure. This is why it's important to discover whether Herods of Comminges can trace to the Conqueror's family, even as they appear to trace to Alans of Dol. King Henry I may have been a Henry-Joseph liner, two names that can indicate a Caiaphas-Herod merger.
The Herod-Maccabee marriage likely went back to king Alexander Balas, for the Herods named their sons (Aristobulus) with a "Bulus" term, and that name went to known Maccabee liners which the Herods had married. But here we find ABALUS, son of Jewish woman possibly from Maine. It just so happens that, the last update traced a nail line to Le Mans, named after Maine elements, and we just saw a nail in a Thomas-related surname at Aaron-suspect Arundel. Le Mans got important when it was found (last update) with the Kyle candlesticks that traced to the Sithech term that Shaws are said to derive in.
It just so happens that while the rulers of Arundel used an upright gold-on-red lion, the dukes of Aquitaine used a passant gold-on-red lion. As you can see, the dukes of Aquitaine were initially rulers of Poitiers, who I think trace to Potters and Botters, both first found in Hampshire. And Potters, I now realize, share white cinquefoils with Thomas'. Maine is near Perche, and Botters have an eagle said to be on a "perch." As a Dol woman married a D'Avrances man who lived at Ferte-Mace, the lions of Aquitaine becomes suspect with that of Gernons, likely from Ranulf de Gernon, earl of Chester soon after Hugh D'Avrances, and a Macey-suspect Meschin to boot. This works because "Gernon" was traced to the Garonne river of Aquitaine.
Eleanor of Aquitaine married king Henry I of England. But why Aquitaine? Was Henry so ugly that he had to go far for a wife? Or did it have to do with Malcolm III and Margaret of Scotland, whose grandson he was? That's the theory now, because Henry's uncle, David I, built what was early called, Haly Rod (now Holyrood) House, for his Anglo-Saxon mother. What was this Rod entity? Why was Margaret's cup bearer, HENRY Sinclair? These Sinclairs of Roslin went on to use the Henry name, and "Roslin" smacks of Rosellon/Roussillon, the same entity, I think, that named Rodez, for Redones, I have read, were also called Russi. How did this Henry Sinclair get so close to Margaret? Were they having sex prior to her marriage??
Wikipedia doesn't mention Margaret's cup bearer, but says only this:
Richard of Saint-Clair and Brittel of Saint-Clair are both mentioned in the Domesday Book (1086). William of Saint-Clair accompanied Saint Margaret of Scotland, daughter of Edward the Exile to Scotland in 1068, where she eventually married Malcolm III of Scotland. In return for his efforts, the king supposedly granted Sinclair the barony of Roslin, Scotland "in free heritage".
One of the earliest recorded Sinclairs in Scotland was Henry of Saint-Clair/Sinclair, who obtained a charter for the lands of Herdmanston in Haddingtonshire in 1160.
But the Sinclairs of Roslin were earlier, before the first Crusade, and in the time of the Conqueror. Wikipedia has no article on William Sinclair of Roslin, so we can only assume that Henry was directly related to him. The Brittels are, to no real surprise, using a fesse in colors reversed from the Alan fesse. It's "A red shield displaying a gold fesse nebully," in the colors of the Leavell nebully fesses. DO NOT MISS a section much further below on Waleran, ancestor of Leavells. It makes important connections to the newly-discovered Arthurian elements. The Brittels or proto-Brittels are said to have been associated with Crispins, first found in the same place (Oxfordshire) as Brittels, and using fesse bars half in the colors of the Leavell bars. Waleran is suspect with the whale of Dols. It's bringing all-important Leavells close to Alans of Dol, but let's not forget that the Leavell bars were traced earlier to the bars of Damorys/Amori's / Amore's, both first found in Oxfordshire.
Perhaps it was William who had married Henrys of Rodez. The latter married Roquefeuil, and the Arms of Roquefeuil uses gold billets. Then, while Roquefeuil is beside Quillan, the Thy surname shares the upright-wolf design of Quillans. That's said because the Sinclair motto includes a phrase, "Commit thy," while "Commit" is obvious code for the Comitissa variation of the English Conte surname, for "Comites" is a variation of another Conte surname, which is only one of more reasons for tracing Conte's to the namers of Conteville (Normandy). So, Sinclairs are suspect with Herods of Comminges at time of the Conqueror, but also with Henrys of Herod-like Rodez.
The Rods, who can be resolved from the marriage of Henry IV of Rodez/Rodes to Miss Roquefeuil, share green trefoils with one Davis surname (suspect with David I, queen Margaret's son), and with the Albino's that the Alans of Dol got connected to. And we just saw an Aran entity in the article on Comminges that may indicate the Fitzalans of Arundel. As we saw that the renaming of Convenarum had seemingly to do with Bertrand de l'Isle-Jourdain, it doesn't appear to be coincidental that French Jourdains were first found in the same place as French Henrys and English Alans while sharing a red fesse with those Alans. Then, the English Jourdains (scroll in Crest) use the rock in Crest that was the rock design once showing for the Roque's, first found in the same place (Languedoc) as Roquefeuil, and the French Conte's/COMITES'. The latter's Coat, which has been linked to the Falcons, who happen to be honored in the falcon of the Alan-related Ducks, are using a Coat like the Fellers (treFOIL, the Rod symbol, and suspect with RoqueFEUIL).
I can't imagine why houseofnames changed the rock design of the Roque's, to one I had never seen before, but, before that time, I was linking the Roque rock to surnames that shared it. At the time that houseofnames (and related companies) changed the Roque rock, there was a slew of design changes (dozens overnight) that gave me the impression of an attempt to sabotage my work. But when new symbols were exchanged for others amongst some surnames, it only gave me greater advantage for making further links (individuals and families usually have the choice of using multiple symbols as per their various marriages). French Alans once showed ducks where they were later replaced by the Henry martlets, which turned out to be extremely advantageous in making links necessary for this very discussion. I kid you not, that while Henrys show the Alan martlets, the Swyrich webpage (related to houseofnames) that gives the Coat descriptions reads: "A gold shield with a blue chevron between three red ducks." That's for the French Henrys. To verify, just enter "Henry" at the page below, a good page to load on a separate browser so that you don't need to bounce back and forth from my page.
Quillan is very near to Rennes-le-Chateau, suspect with the naming of the Renfrew area to which the Alans of Oswestry (Shropshire) moved. In the last update, it was said: "Sauls use falcon heads while the Oswestry-related Ducks use a falcon in Crest." There was little doubt that the Duck falcon was code for the Languedoc Falcons sharing the Conte crescents, a version of the Feller trefoils, and so while Sauls became suspect with the Saulun entity of Swallows (Arundels share black swallows with Swallows), there was one Mr. Sauniere character involved in some money-plot at Rennes-le-Chateau, and the Saunier surname (no 'e') is also "SAULnier," suggesting an Arundel trace to Rennes-le-Chateau (not far from Comminges). To this picture, one might even consider a trace of "Dol" to "TOULouse."
The Crest of Irish Henrys: "A falcon closed belled proper." The Irish Jourdains/Shurtans are said to have been the Exeter surname originally, and Exeters use bells, what you see in the Henry description, all the more reason for linking Henrys with Comminges. For the record, a "black falcon close" is used by Dutch Werts/Weerdens too, and the Close's share the hunting horns of the Lothian surname. bells are used also by Porters, who look like a branch of Potters i.e. from the dukes of Poitiers. It's hard to keep all of this straight, especially if you're the reader, but what this indicates now is that Alans link to the dukes of Aquitaine=Poitiers, fully expected if the Alan-related Henrys were from Rodez. Exeter is in Devon, where English Stewarts were first found, and ducks are used by the Devons. You see, the Stewarts didn't chose to use ducks because they love quack-quack. There was an early listing of a Jordanus in the listing to Richard Rovert, and it turns out that Roverts are listed with the Rodez-like Roets, the ones whom I've traced to Caplans, first found in the same place as, and suspect with, English Josephs (i.e. the ones from Henry Joseph or Joseph Henry).
Aha! As Roets and Reeds were traced to Rieti, where the Flavian family of emperor Titus lived, note that German Rovers use a giant Moor head, same as the Titus surname. This goes back to the impression I have that Joseph Caiaphas was related to Josephus, the historians who betrayed Israel and went to the family of Titus. That's a good reason for linking the Roets to Josephs. As Caiaphas was suspect with Josephus, it was very notable that the Titus Moor head (same design) is also in the Chappes Coat. There's an English Rover/Ruffer surname, showing a page but without a Coat, first found in Surrey. "Ruffer" can go to the Riparia river, suspect as the origin of Revere's.
As Roverts/Roets were first found between Devon and Wight, two places where Revere's had ruling families, it looks like Roets/ROVERts were a branch of Revere's or related Rivers. As Roets share a book with Reeds, note that Revere's were also "REDvere." The book is code for Books/Boggs, like the Bognors met up with above, suspect with a Bogner location in Arun.
Irish Jordaine's are said to have joined Strongbow Clare in the invasion of Ireland, what stupid vikings do best even after they are Christianized. Power-hungry demons don't know enough to stay home. English Jourdains were first found in the same place (Suffolk) as Clare's, where the Conqueror first conquered when he and his demons didn't know enough to stay home. This demonic situation founded what became modern England, infested by Alan blood, and still seeking to own the world through the use of American military and spy agencies. It's a sad state of affairs, don't kid yourself. The ones who rule over you would point to the modern blessings while blinding you to the looming destruction.
The English Jourdains are the ones with the scroll, but here's the description: "A gold mount [actually it shows as a rock] over which is a scroll with the family's motto ["Percussa Resurgo"]. It just so happens that a motto of the Great Seal of the United States is on a scroll. And while the "E. Pluribus Unum" motto upon that scroll was resolved to be part-code for Eplers/Eppells', they share an upright, gold lion with the scroll-using Jourdains. "Eppel" is somewhat like "Ebalus," the one with a Jewish mother, and a father descended from Maine elements. Ebalus was count of Poitiers, and then while the Potters share the white cinquefoil with Bus', the latter is in "E. PluriBUS."
The Quillan wolf design is used by German Flemings while Scottish Flemings lived massively at Lothian. The Flemish Seatons were around Haddington, the area given to the Roslin Sinclairs. Let's repeat the Wikipedia statement to see if we can spot a Herod-like term: "One of the earliest recorded Sinclairs in Scotland was Henry of Saint-Clair/Sinclair, who obtained a charter for the lands of HERDmanston in Haddingtonshire in 1160." Again, it must be assumed that Henry Sinclair of Roslin was William's son or brother. Henry, I have read, was on the ship that sailed Margaret to Scotland. The ship was supposedly piloted by Maurice Drummond, and Scottish Drummonds use wavy fesse bars in the colors of the Alan fesse. I have always perceived a direct link between proto-Alans in Shetland and the Drummond liners there. I entertained a ship symbol for Maurice Drummond, which is in the Arms of Shetland, but Stewarts / Stuarts also used the ship. The Orkneys, beside Shetland, were ruled by a Henry Sinclair.
There is a webpage with title: "Herdmanston House (site of) | Castle in Saltoun, East Lothian ..." That could be the Saul bloodline. There is a Salton surname sharing a black bend with Sale's/Salette's. The Salton Crest: "A blue pelican's head vulning itself." Two updates ago: "Although the Cuppers/Copers, first found in Shropshire, are showing a black pelican, it's described like so: "An ermine pelican emerging from a silver mural crown, beaked and legged in gold, vulning herself." What's "vulning" for? The motto of pelican-using Stewarts includes, "VULNere."" Therefore, add Saltons (Saleman / Salmon colors) to the list of Saluzzo suspects of the Fitzalan kind. The Salton motto can be for Tanaro-river elements (*Saluzzo is near the Tanaro), and Tanner-suspect Ghents (Hampshire) share the spread Salton eagles in colors reversed, yet the Ghent eagles were resolved to be those of Side's/Sutys/Siders (Salton colors), kin of Sudys and Seatons, the latter first found in the same area as Saulton! That works. The Side tiger is being traced to Tigranes, of the Herod-Maccabee line.
There is a Herdman surname using white-on-green, colors reversed from some Herod-Archelaus liners, including the spread eagle of Henrys. There is a Heartman surname using a passant lion in the colors of the upright lion of the Arundel earls. That's not a small piece of something. As Coopers were first found in the same place as Arundel, note the Heartman Crest: "An arm COUPed, erect, holding a sword flammant." "Erect" is probably as per the erect sword of Rundels, and Herod's mother, Cypros, has been suspect with Coopers. Heartmans are shown properly as Arts / Harts / Carts. The flaming sword of Heartmans can trace the Herdmanston because Scottish Flemings were especially in that part of Scotland. The Herds/Heards use a "RECTE" motto term, and later you'll see why the latter can be Roets and with Herod Agrippa / Herod of Chalchis.
The "shepherd's CROOKs" of Herdmans is telling, for Eschyna de Molle married Mr. Croce while her daughter married Robert Pollock, and then the Herdman crooks form a saltire in the colors of the Pollock saltire! Herods/Hurls/Haralds/Heraults (kin of duck-using Herls/Hurls) hare in Herdman / Pollock colors. Herods/Hurls/Haralds were resolved to be SITRic liners, and that new topic lately traced to the Side's/SIDERs. The previously-shown Coat of Herods/Hurls had the fesse couped (not reaching both sides of the Shield, suspect with "Cypros," mother of Herod "the great"), and it looked like a Torah scroll, and to this let's remind that Jourdains use a scroll, for Sinclairs of Herdmanston can link to Alans thus:
THE St.Clairs of Herdmanston can illustrate a more ancient establishment in Scotland than the St.Clairs of Roslyn, Earls of Orkney, but no common origin can be traced [doesn't mean there was no common stock]. The Herdmanstons derive from
I. HENRY DE ST.CLAIR, vice-comes of Richard de Moreville, Constable of Scotland, from whom he received, in 1162 - for certain military services - a charter of the lands of "Hermanestum cum lola terra quam Ricardus Camerarius tenuit de Hugone, patre meo, de Morevilla et de me", which lands have ever since continued in the family; thus in point of ancient descent the first in East Lothian. Very few, if any, of the great Scottish families possess ancestral estates granted at so early a period...From the close association with the de Morevilles, it may be inferred that this Henry de St.Clair was of the same family as Hugh de St.Clair, co-excommunicate with Balliol and de Moreville...
II ALAN DE ST.CLAIR, who, with his spouse, Matilda of Windsor, received a charter from William de Morevill, Constable of Scotland, on whose death in 1196 a charter of confirmation issued from Roland Fitz-Uthred, Earl of Galloway, who had married the Constable's sister, and succeeding him in his estate and office, was bound to confirm the former gift. About 1244 Alan de Saynclair, or Scincler, as it is also spelled, takes oath with others that he did not send people to waste the land of the Kings of England. Alan's wife was evidently English.
As the Roslin surname uses buckles, the Leslie symbol, let's also mention that Bartholomew, founder of the Leslie's, was the cup bearer of Agatha, queen Margaret's mother. Margaret's mother has uncertain parentage, some saying that she was a daughter/relative of one of the Henry emperors: "The description of Agatha as a blood relative of 'Emperor Henry' may be applicable to a niece of either Henry II or Henry III, Holy Roman Emperors (although Florence, in Regalis prosapia Anglorum specifies Henry III)." When we go to the genealogy of the dukes of Aquitaine, we find Henry III, Roman emperor, marring Agnes (almost the same name as Margaret's mother, but not exactly a hard link) of the Poitiers side of those dukes. And the mother of Agnes of Poitiers was Agnes of Burgundy, that place being where Herod Archelaus has stomping grounds whom was traced (by me) to the green eagle of Irish Henrys.
Who was Alan of St.Clair? Another page: "Henry was succeeded by his son, Alan de St. Clair, who obtained from William de Moreville the lands of Carfrae in Upper-Lauderdale." Why did Henry name a son, Alan? Was the link of the Brittany Alans to France's Aubin already established by then, or did this Alan link to Henrys cause it? Here's from the last update: "Luffens/Lovekins/Luckins/Lewkins (see Luffs/Love's) were first found in Shropshire." Love's/Luffs are using the red lion heads shared by Mousquette's, but the latter had once shown the lion design in the Crest of English Rothes', first found in Shropshire. The point here is that, while Flanders elements got so heavy in Lothian that their Fleming symbol made it early to the Arms of Scotland, there is/was a Luffness location in East Lothian (see footnote at page below), suspect with Louvains, from Flanders. And there was cause, years ago, to trace Alans to Flanders, and here I think I have found that Flanders-Alan link in Alan St. Clair.
Louvain of Belgium was also, Leuven, and the Leuven surname tells the story with its Laufer/Lauffen variations.
If Luffness traces to the Luffens of Shropshire, that helps to establish an Alan link to the early Sinclairs. Luffens share black scallops on a chevron (both on red Shields) with Edins ("sit" motto term suspect with Seatons, East Lothian), making the latter, first found in the same place as Clares (!), suspect with Edinburgh, just six miles from Roslin! It appears that Luffens can trace to Luffness. Luffens became a topic as per the Luffenham location of Wings (Perthshire, same as Justine's = Valentinian liners). Edins were first found in the same place (Suffolk) as Luffs/Love's. Edins (in Seaton colors) even share the gold-on-red garbs of Deeds/Dade's, found in the Fleming motto. Edins are suspect from Etna in the Scylla area of Messina, where scallops trace. Louvains were first found in the same place as Messina-suspect Massins/Masons, and the two share the same lion. The Meschin scallops are colors reversed from the Luffen scallops.
The footnote says that Hambletons became the Hamiltons of BALLINcreif and Luffness, and later the earls of Haddington, the lands previously ruled by Alan St. Clair. It just so happens that Hamiltons use the white-on-red and ermined cinquefoil in the Arms of Leicestershire, while Luffenham is at the Rutland of Leicestershire! Bingo. I had traced the ermined cinquefoils of RODhams to Leicestershire because the symbol made the surname suspect with RUTland, and later found that Watsons, who share the tree stump with Rodhams, were first found in a Rutland location. What do we suppose these Rods and Ruts trace to??? They are popping up in an investigation on whether Henry of Rodez traces to the Sinclairs of Haddington.
When we go to the Ballin/Balon surname, it's said to be from Hamelin de Balon, suggesting that this is of the Ballincrief location of the Hambletons>Hamiltons. Ballins/Balons are from "Balon near Le Mans," and in the last update, the Arms of Le Mans traced to the Kyle's, near a Hamilton location (Renfrew), where Hamiltons were first found, and where the Dol Stewarts moved to. Hamiltons use the Bus cinquefoil, and now suspect with the Potter cinquefoil i.e. from rulers of Poitiers leading to Fitzalans. Ballins/Balons use the same lion as English Balls/Balders, but as the latter throw in a fire ball, fire is a Fleming symbol (used also by the Flemish Seatons). French Balls/Balons, in the same colors, and expected to link to the fire ball, were first found in Brittany!
And so here we are finding ourselves back in Maine, where the dukes of Aquitaine had ancestry. But as the lion of the son of Ranulf le Meschin traced well to the lion of the Aquitaine dukes, let's repeat that the Maine surname shares double-red chevrons with Perche's while Bellamys of Perche merged with Ferte-Mace while Botters use a perch, and then there was a Robert D'Avrances who married Dol, to be expected with Alencon is near Perche:
We obviously know that a family of Macey originated in Avranches (Normandy]. We have seen how Robert d' Avranches, who held the fief of Macey, south of Avranches (Loyd, 'Origins', pp. 11-12), was the father of Rualon d'Avranches, and that Robert d'Avranches was a degree of cousin of Hugh Lupus. When Hugh's nephew, Ranulf [le Meschin], was confirming gifts to his uncle's foundation, the representatives of the Macey family were Robert and Simon de Macey (Robert being Ruallon II...); grandsons of Ruallon de Avranches.
The nickname of Hugh Lupus D'Avrances was almost smack-dab "Flaad," the name of the earliest-known Dol Alan. And then we see that Robert was actually RuALLON, grandson of Ruallon. That tends to put Alans in Ferte-Mace, and the Ferte eagle happens to be in Alan colors while the Botters show an eagle in Ferte-eagle colors too.
But if the Sinclairs of Haddington and Roslin did merge with the Dol Alans in pre-Templar times, how was that done, and what might be the significance under the my previous claims that Alans originated in Forum Allieni, the name of Ferrara up to at least 70 AD, where I see Pharisees and perhaps some Sadducees too, having escaped there from Titus' invasion of Israel? Ferrari liners use horseshoes, and that includes the Ferrers that had received titles from Hugh Lupus. The Arms of Rutland use a horseshoe, and a motto term in the Arms of Rutland, I'm going to guess, is code for Eschyna de Molle, who married an Alan to the royal Stewarts. The motto term I'm referring to has a "Mul" term buried within, while Mulle's/Mule's were first found in Devon (same as Stewarts and Wassa's), and share the double-red fesse bars with Luffs/Love's, but overall look like they are using a version of the Washington Coat.
As Rundels are listed as Roundels, we should expect a lot more roundels in this discussion than have cropped up, but the Mule's do use roundels, and they are red, called torteaux, suspect with Tortona, near Alis-suspect Alessandria. The latter is sufficiently close (about 75 miles) to Saluzzo for Alice of Saluzzo to have been from Alessandria elements, especially as she married Rundel-related Arundel.
Here's from the last update as per the Alans of Clun in Shropshire:
Cluns/Cluneys use nothing but a blue Chief!!! It's exactly the Saluzzo Coat!!! And they show a black wolf in Crest linkable to the Seals!!! Nothing can make more sense than including Stewarts in the Great Seal, but here they are found linking to Wassa's in Devon. The Cluney wolf holds a green trefoil; I know what that is, the Albins/Aubins and Albino's of Modena, who traced with the Mea crosslet to the Meu river, where Henrys lived. While Hollys were suspect with the Plunkett bend, the other Hollys (green trefoils) show Colun-like variations suggesting Clun; that works because Plunkets were first found in Vilaine, where Dol is situated. As "Great Seal" traces to Valentinian [as do the Wings of Luffenham, Rutland], note that the Clun Shield is likely the Justine Shield, for both surnames were first found in Perthshire.
Keep that Colun term in mind. The theory had been that, after Forum Allieni, they got to Mont Pilat (Perthshire-related) at St. Etienne, where some of the Caepio treasure had been, for the Besancons/Bassets, first found at Forez, beside St. Etienne, share silver-on-blue billets with the Etienne surname, and these billets are being understood as code for the gold and silver Caepio bars. Here I find French Hamelins, thanks to Hamelin de Balon at Maine, said to be from Desert, FOUGERoux, and St. Etienne. Amazing coincidence, not just because Alans are now tracing to Hameltons, but because Caiaphas / Caepio liners expected at St. Etienne should trace to Josephs of Maine, for the Billet surname, in Etienne / Besancon colors, was first found at Maine. As Le Mans (Maine capital at one time) traces to the Kyle candlesticks, while Kyle's trace themselves to king Cole at Colchester, that's where I traced HAMELtons, for Colchester was previously CAMELdunum. Then, while Cole's use a full black bull, that's the symbol of English Hamelins! This is new to me, and very welcome for proving a Hamelton trace to Camulodunum.
French Hamelins look like they are using a version of the Macey Coat, but with the Dol fesse. A Coat like that of Hamelins was come across in the last update, with the Weis-related Wies/Wieser surnames. This is for you, Julie. Dutch Hamelins/Hamme's use a goat (in Ham / Hammer colors), symbol of Boofima, a cult that I did not know of yet when I caught wind of some clues that traced it from Bavarians to Africa. Afterward, Julie, who was not reading my work at the time, informed me of Boofima in the first place, and it happened to have origins in an Imperi peoples of Africa. Little more is known of the Imperi, so far as I know. I began to realize that Boofima should trace to the Ibis goat of WEIShaupts, and thus it traced Boofima to the Bavarian Illuminati. Later, I traced Boofima to the Boeufs (have variations linkable to black-bull Turnbulls), first found in Imperi-suspect Perigord, where Sauniers/SAULnier's were first found who use a Coat somewhat like that of Maceys / Wies' / Hamelins. The blue-apple riddle from Rennes-le-Chateau, supposedly concerning a mystery treasure, had a pegasus involved, the Massey symbol. The riddle also involved a Pousinn term, while Poussins were first found in Maine!
The Beouf fesse is colors reversed from the Hamelin / Wies fesse! This is making the god, Camulos, suspect with Boofima > Baphomet. The Boeufs use nothing but a fesse, in the colors of nothing-but-a-Chief Saluzzo's. Saluzzo traces to the Turano, where TURNbulls/TurnBALLs may trace. The latter were first found in the same place as holly-bush Maxwells (Hollys/Cullens?), and the Crest of bull using Hamelins is: "A hand pulling a rose from a bush." This could be the red Avezzano rose, but in any case, you just saw a strong Hamelin trace to the Boeufs with Turnbull-like variations. In the meantime, these Colchester elements trace to the Colapis, where red-rose Cope's and Copps trace, suspect with Caepio's, and with the "copia" term of Reeds that trace both to Rieti (on both the Salto and Turano), and to Boofima-based Roets. Even the Books/Boggs honored in the books shared by Reeds and Roets can trace to Bough (can be pronounced, boff) liners, which recalls Bogner in Arun, and then Bogens were first found in Bavaria and share the bow with Boughs/Bows (same motto term as Roets). That can trace Boofima to Bowers / Bauers (Bavaria) and therefore to Rothschilds. The blue-and-white lozengy of Bavaria was previously owned by Bogens (even before Wittelsbachs owned it), but this is the lozengy seen in the Arms of Woerden, where it looks like the Stewart fesse, important because English Rothes' were first found in Shropshire.
I don't recall ever checking to see what the Bough/Bow lion has in its hands. As the Rothschild symbol is five arrows, see the Bough/Bow description: "A demi-lion rampant holding in the dexter paw five arrows points downwards." Rothes' and Rothschilds must be from the Roets! I don't recall having that evidence before, and it's tracing Rothschilds to Rieti. What in Rieti did they trace to??? Titus and Vespasian? As Rothschilds trace to Peter Pollock of Rothes, not that Pollocks use BOWS on their hunting horns, as many hunting horns do. I have it from a reliable source (with Pollock bloodline) that a granddaughter of Peter Pollock married Watsons, and they are the ones sharing the RODham tree stump, and first found in Rutland, so that the Roet oak can trace to Rutlands and Rodhams (share a white-on-red bend with JEWISH Pollocks). As I traced the Roet oak to the Panico oak, note that Panico's share the Saunier Chief.
The Bough/Bow bows are said to be STRUNG in pale, and Strings, in Bug colors, were first found in the same place (Nottinghamshire) as Bugs, who are in Bogen colors. At least some parts of the estate from the marriage of Miss. Pollock to Watsons, according to my source, were over-taken by Leslie's, who share the green griffin head in the Crest of Strings (Istria elements?). Keep the Strings in mind until the Stewart-related/associated Strange's come up. Strings share a gold spread eagle with Strongs (same place as Roets!), and Strong's use an "est" motto term while Istria-suspect Este's use a spread eagle too. The giant Strong eagle is that also of Vienne's, and Este is not far from Fano, the line now suspect with Vienne's, and then the Ghents in the gauntlet gloves of Fane's/Fiens ("fano" motto term) share the String eagles in both colors. Maurice Strong, a globalist suspect with Cecil-Rhodes globalism, is coming to mind, and the Strongs happen to share "via" with Cecils. Reminder: ArmSTRONGs share a strong-arm symbol with Rothschilds.
Camulodunum is said to be from Camulos, and later that place came to use a nail as symbol, as per the Arms of Colchester, and Nails are also "Nagle" tracing to Oneglia = IMPERia. Moreover, the other Nagle's use the same fesse as Boeufs, and the Nons in the Nagle motto use it in colors reversed = the Wies / Hamelin fesse, another reason to trace Hameltons (suspect with Nahorites) to Camulodunum. The PeriGORD location was traced to Gords, who happen to share a gold boar head with Hambleton-like Campbells/CAMMELLS! The Campbell gyronny traces to the Arms of Gironde, on the Garonne river.
Moreover, I had claimed that Boofima traces from Massena Numidians, and is thus expected with Macey liners. Later, and only within the past year, the Faux/CHAULNes/CHOLNes surname was come across, first found in the same place as SAULNier's, and so recall the COLUN surname. Here's a quote from the last update: ""Clun takes its name from the river upon which it stands. Deriving from an earlier COLUN, it shares its very early British root with the two rivers Colne, in Lancashire and Essex [location of COLchester], each of which has a town of the same name on its banks"" This is making Mr. Saunier at Rennes-le-Chateau suspect as a Masci-Saluzzo liner to the namers of Clun, where Meschins were first found that have a MASCULine variation linkable to the giant mascle of English Faux's.
It just so happens that it was Julie who tipped me off to the Fugger bankers, and Fuggers share the fleur-de-lys in the colors of the same in the Faux/Chaulnes Chief. Compare "Fugger" to "Fougeroux," where the Hamelins of St. Etienne had a seat, and then compare "Foug" to "Faux." It was even Julie who tipped me off to Fussen (Germany), also called FOETes, which became suspect with the "CyFOETH" variation of Gernons. I eventually traced Fussen to lake Fucino, near the sources of the Salto and Turano, and then a Fossano location was found near Saluzzo. Phocaeans in Maine make sense where they lived beside Maeonians. The "FOEDera" motto term of Rundel-related Olivers may apply here, especially as the Oliver-Chief has footless martlets. The Oliver martlets are suspect with the same of Rutherfords, definite kin of Rodhams and Rutlands, and suspect with the Ruthene, another name for the Redones. Rutherfords and Olivers were first found in the same place, ROXburghshire, suspect with Roque liners. That's why Rutherfords use the Roque rock in Crest. Therefore, Arundels just traced to Roquefeuil, as expected where Alans of Dol trace to ancient Roxolani.
It just so happens that Mortons use a goat on a quartered Shield in the colors of the quartered Shield of Fuggers that put sheep on their Coat! And Mortons trace with Mauritano's/Marano's to Marano, which is near Fanano i.e. uses the same fesse as Wies' and Hamelins. There now becomes a question on whether Morville's, the special kin of the St. Clairs of Haddington, trace to Marano's/Mauritano's, for both use a giant, upright white lion. The Dols, remember, share the same fesse as in the Arms of Fanano, and Fanano linked solidly to Masci liners. Therefore, Dol is suspect with Boofima elements.
The Marano/Mauritano lion was resolved to be that of Montforts, from Monforte in the Langhe part of Cuneo, and Langhe was the place where I had traced the proto-Alans of Forum Allieni. As the latter term is suspect with "alien," it recalled that Stewarts were kin to the Strange's, who use passant lions in the colors of the Montfort lion. It's the same lion exactly as that of Toulouse- / Dol-suspect Tools (Pollock boar?), but the strange's use two lions in pale, as do Gernons, and the two both use their lions on a red Shield. As Gernons trace to the Garonne river, that's the location of Toulouse. It's a mighty argument.
Hameltons can indeed be shown to be a branch of Hammers (sinister divide). This seems reliable, as though the writer of the Hammer write-up knew something, for while Hammers show no Hammel-like variation, the surname is traced suggestively to such a location. It happens to use an upright lion in the same colors as the comBATTANT lions of FOGHERtys, a strong argument for tracing a branch of the latter to the Fougeroux location near Mont Pilat. The Fogherty motto may be code for "Flaad," father of Alan of Dol.
As late as the 19th century, there was a Charles du Hamel (politician) of Fougeroux, whose mother was Verany de Varenne's. The page below has the all-important ancestry of Ralph Neville (click "Show"), showing that HENRY de Percy, grandson of Alice of Saluzzo, was the grandson also of Warenne's = Varenne's. As Ada of Warenne was found to be a line to Ade's with little doubt, its now notable that the Ade bend is half the Neville saltire in the same colors. Henrys de Percy was the son of Henry de Percy, son in turn of Henry de Percy. What's that?
Percys can be trace to "Perche" because Eleanor FitzAlan of Arundel was mother to Henry de Percy while Rundels use "OLIVE branches" (same as Scottish Olivers) as code for Olive and Oliver, two children of the first earl of Arundel. Or, if Olivers didn't descend from one of these children, Olive and Oliver may have been named after an Oliver family suspect in the earl's wife or mother. Olivers, using an "Ad" motto term that seems clearly for Ade / Ada-of-Warenne liners, share double-red chevrons with Perche's, you see. Back in those days, first names of newborns were not chosen randomly, as they are largely today. It took me some years to realize that first names often reflected family surnames / people groups centuries ago.
To be sure that the "Ad" motto term is for Ada of Warenne, the same term is in the motto of Claverings/Claferings, while Euphemia de Clavering married a Ralph Neville. You can see her in the family tree above. Later, I'll show a quote where Henry Percy, 1st baron of Percy and husband of Eleanor of Warenne, changed the Percy Arms to a blue lion, which is in the Clavering Crest, making sense because the Clavering-Neville line married the Percy line. The Clavering Coat is a version of the Hanan Coat, important because Seth, father of Hanan/Annas, was in Syria, where roughly Glaphyra was living. This is a new twist to the Caepio-line lion, and works excellently for a trace to Quintus Caepio because Quints share blue vair fur with the Raby surname (Durham), from a Raby location in Durham (WERE river), where Neville's ruled out of. It begs the question on whether Rabys were named after a rabbi. The gold crosses (don't assume love for Jesus) filling the Raby Shield are in the color of the similar Quint fitchee.
On the other hand, Rabys could be named after the raven symbol of Ralphs / Rolphs, making them suspect with Revere's, who happen to use the blue-on-gold lion in the Arms of Henry Percy. The first Ralph baron was son of Robert de Neville and Mary fitzRANULF, daughter of Anastasia de Percy and Ralph fitzRanulf. And so it appears that Ralph got named after the Ranulf bloodline, and this can trace to Ranulf le Meschin because: 1) the Neville's may be using the Macclesfield cross as a saltire; 2) Mary was born in Yorkshire, location of some Meschins; 3) Massins/Masons and Louvains use the same lion as the Percys came to use, which the Percys traced, apparently, to Louvain. Plus, Glaphyra had married Juba of Mauritania, descendant of king Massena. While Massins, Louvains and Brabants were all first found in Kent, there is a Brabant location in Maine, while the triple Levi chevrons were used by the counts of Hainaut, beside Brabant.
Mary's ancestry was in Percy of Manche, where Masseys were first found. One of Marys many children was William CHATworth, making for the possibility that the Neville saltire was a version of the Chad cross. Chads share the Massena patees. Marys sister was Joan de Tattershall, the latter surname using tigers in Chatworth colors. If not mistaken, the tigers are holding mirrors, for I've read that this couplet was used on rare occasions.
There you have some added data that identifies the Neville line with ancestry in William de Percy of TopCLIFFE "Aux Gernons" (who should explain the Gernon surname of le-Meschin's son), and later coming back to marry Percys of the Henry-Arundel kind. Aha, Topcliffe's/TopLIEFs are from the Swale river (Yorkshire), suspect with the Arundel swallows. Topcliffe's and Swale's both use white dogs in Crest, connectable to the white wolf head of Yorkshire Scarfs, and a scarf is used by Chad-suspect Sadowski's. The Tattons (of Massey) not only use the seated white dog of Topcliffe's exactly, but share crescents (different colors) with them. The Tatton description calls it a greyhound, the Swale symbol. This paragraph traces Percys well to Bellamys of Perche, who share red crescents with Tattons. Taddei's use crosses in the colors of the Neville saltire. The article has an entry where the earliest-known Percy entity is said to be from MainFRED de Percy? "Fred" is a name that can develop from "Ferte-Mace." And Maine's use the double Perche chevrons, with Taddei's using three in the same red color. The "Projeci" motto term of Maine's can trace to Jacks (shares holly with Maxwells), first found in Renfrew, and to Jacks/Jeke's/Jeeks (Dade scallops?), first found in Yorkshire, where English Maxwells and Percys were first found. The full quote on Mainfred suggests the Maccus pirates.
Below is from the 2nd update of November, 2013, when I first learned of the Clare links to Sicily; although this quote has been looked up as per another Manfred, look at how the entire quote pertains to the discussion at hand:
...Manfredi Chiaramonte, husband of Isabella Mosca...
The Chiaramonte family built many castles at Mussomeli, Caccamo, Chiaramonte Gulfi, Ragusa and all over Sicily, in a very typical Gothic style...
...As per the Mussomeli location, the Musso(lino) surname is very interesting for using a bend in lozengy [= a string of six lozenges] in the colors of the Varn and Pembroke bends. Clare's ruled Pembroke!!!!!! It means that the Charo/Chiaro/CLARO surname traces to MonteChiaro. The Bricks, said to be from "Broc," use lozengy in the same fashion and can therefore be identified as part of the PemBROKE term...
ZOWIE, that explains why Bricks and Clare's use the same stag design in their Crests...
...The Marshalls use the same sort of lozengy design as Bricks and Musso(lino)'s...But Marshalls are said to be a branch of Keiths who lived at MUSSELburgh, and that is the general area of Sinclairs = Claro's. Therefore, Musselburgh, and Mussels/Muscels, trace to Mussomeli. How about that.
The earlier Percy Arms used a string of fusil-type lozenges (the Fusil surname uses lozenges) so that a Percy trace to Manfred of Chiaramonte, and his Mosca wife, makes sense. As Sewards use the Mosca leopard, the Sourdins below can apply to him. Seward was traced to a Danish queen (Swietoslawa), and the Mainfred of Percy above is linked by the writer to Danes, from whom Briquessarts derive. Note that Miss Mosca has the same first name as Isabella of VISpont, and that "ISabel" can trace to Vis/Issa, beside Pharisee-suspect Pharia. The Bricks (Massey fleur) can be identified as Massey liners, likely explaining the Briquessart surname of le-Meschin's father. I consider the possibility of Percys being Pharisee liners moving West with Maccabee liners, and lozenges are expected to trace to the Maezaei, the root of lines using hollow lozenges as code for Meschins / Mussels (roundels = Arundel suspects). The hollowness may have started as a pierced theme for Percy-like Pierce's.
It may be that hollow was itself a theme for the Holly surname (one has Clun-like variations traceable to Luisa of Ceva), and that annulets are to be regarded as hollow roundels = Holly liners merged with Arundels. That is now making sense. Believe it or not, there is a Hollow/Hallow surname sharing red roundels with Hollys (another white dog, same as the Percys of Topcliffe), as well as what could be the Conte / Falcon crescents. Irish Clune's use a white wolf instead of the black one of the Shropshire Cluns. Note how the Irish-Clune write-up seems daft in explaining the derivation of the surname, which, obviously, was from Clun of Shropshire, and even the Scottish-Clun write-up fails to mention Clun. Do we really think that historians didn't realize that Cluns are using the Saluzzo Coat? There is no clue whatsoever in either write-up that Clune's trace to Alans of Dol in Clun. As the Holly bend is like that of Plunketts (Dol area), "Percy" may trace to "Perga" (home of Plancia Magna, known Maccabee-Herod liner).
White-wolf-black-wolf is the theme of Seals, first found in the area (Northumberland) ruled by Siward, and, again, the Seal Crest suggests that Scarfs (suspect as Germanized Shere's and Carricks and therefore from Severus-Caracalla elements on the Sava) were Percy kin. White wolf Gore's were traced to the Losinj theater before it was known that Losinj existed as the place to which lozenges can trace. There is a Losinj-like location in Normandy, the spelling of which I have forgotten. The Kyle-Society webpage tends to reveal that lozenges trace to Cole's and therefore to the Colapis river (Losinj theater), where "Clun" might trace. But as Cluns are suspect with "Saulnier / Chaulnes," while the latter term lists "Faux," note that while English Faux's use a giant mascle, FAUCets/FAUXside's were at MUSSELburgh. It should surprise us to find a ruler of Northampton in the Faucet write-up, but, yes, Saer de Quincy is in it. As Faucets use the same lion as Side-related Sutys, while the latter share a motto term with Seatons (likewise of Lothian), the "FauxSIDE" variation tends to betray a merger with Side's.
As the Marshalls with a string of lozenges are hint that Percy liners were in Haddington / Musselburgh, note that Greats/Greeps share a blue-on-white saltire with the other Marshalls. English Marshalls were first found in the same place (Wiltshire) as Tops (gauntlet), evoking the Topcliffe location of the early Percys. Cliffs are the ones traced in their write-up to MORETON-Say in Shropshire, and having the black wolf heads of Seals and related Sailers/SAYlers. Tops were first found in the same place as MORTONs. Early Percys thus look merged with both Tops and Cliffe's, and moreover the Top gauntlet traces to Fanano with gauntlet-using Fane's/Feins. Incredibly, the Huxley kin of Cliffs, found in the Cliff write-up, who share the black wolf head of Cliffs, use a red bend with red bendlets, symbol of the Belgian Gone's/Kohns whom I traced to the GONfanon banner!!! This is the hard evidence lacking for that trace until now, and it's getting Cliffs over to Fanano (Modena) and neighboring Marano, the latter home to Mauritano's that use the lion of Montforts, known owners of the gonfanon banner. This practically proves that Moreton of Shropshire traces to Marano, and the Seal fesse becomes very linkable, starting in this update, to the Cassius family of Modena. Huxleys are probably using the Tatton crescents.
Of interest here is that, while Cliffs/Cleave's are traced to Glaphyra Archelaus, her father's religious cult was Persian, and thus the Pharisees were suspect from that Fars element. That is, Percys can trace to that Persian cult, and in no way does this detract from a Percy trace, if possible, to Pharia. While Cliffs are traced to
es, The "VIREscit" motto term of Scottish Marshalls, a Stewart / Brock term too, traces to the Vire river on the east side of Manche, anciently Alauna, and suspect from La Mancha in Spain, where Alan Huns lived for a time in the 5th century, before entering north Africa, ravaging along its tracks like a bottomless, putrid stomach. Wasn't this attitude the symbol of the Herods?
Greats share the engrailed feature with the Sinclair cross, and share the gold rooster in Crest with Sinclairs, a great way to link Greats with Henry and Alan St. Clair of Haddington. Rollo's (black crest) were first found in the same place as black-crest Clune's, the latter sharing the black wolf with Seals. The Greep variation is suspect with Bernice Agrippa because the Seal Coat is a version of the Bernice Coat. That is, GREATs trace to an Agrippa merger with GRATian, father of Valentinian and inhabitant of what became Vinkovci.
Rollo's were first found in the same place as Wing-related Vinkovci liners of the Justine-surname kind. The Pollock sept of Peacocks, using a mascle inside of a roundel and therefore traceable to Arundel-Percy elements, were first found in Durham, where the Ralph-Neville line ruled, and so the colors of the Peacock fesse become suspect as Neville colors in particular. As the Jewish-Pollock bend is in the same colors while it has traced well to the Valentin bend, Neville's become suspect as Valentinian liners, especially as the Valentin bend can be gleaned in that of Stevensons, first found where Siward ruled. The "just" motto term of Peacocks was therefore traced to Justine, Valentinian's wife. It's clear to me that the Stevenson bend is that of Ade's so that Stevensons trace to the Varenne's married by Percys. By what coincidence do Scottish Stevensons, suspect as an Alan branch in the past, use the Shield-and-Chief color combination of Saluzzo's / Cluns?
The Percy location of Manche is said to be near Villedieu-les-Poeles (Pollocks?). If you ignore the "deaf" definition of the Sourdins inhabitants of this village, and consider the term indicative of Sau/Sava-river liners, see the Villedieu Arms at the bottom of the page, using 18 black (on gold) billets, the color of the billets filling the Wing/Wink Shield, and then the Arms also uses a cross in the colors of the Seagar moline. Siward (or SIGURd) of Northumberland was traced to Seager / Sawyer liners from the Sava. This discussion tends to trace Percys to Valentinian. Why do SWORDs, who are subtly traced in their write-up to Siward, using "WINGs expanded" in Crest??? Let's not be naive when such brilliant evidence shines upon us. The Sword-Coat description is laced with codes, including one for Hilts/Hyatts that use a "Fac et" motto phrase suspect with Faucets (same lion as Hilts/Hyatts).
Now that Rundels are suspect with Levi liners as much as Olivers (and Leafs/Leve's) are, why is the Rundel Crest "A silver SWORD in pale with a red GRIP"? Is this from Herod Agrippa? What is the crowned HEART in the Scottish Oliver Coat? English Olivers replace the olive branch of Scottish Olivers with a "sprig of oak," essentially the Alan-Coat symbol that is itself a replica of the Rundel Coat. I have thus finally found the root of Olivers, and they are tracing to an Aaron-suspect line.
At least three symbols of multiple Olivers trace to Panico's / Setta valley, and then one Olive surname is suspect with the Schutz greyhound while Schutz's are suspect with the Skits' / Skeets' / Scheds traced (years ago) to Panico / Setta elements. These elements, in the "VireSCIT" term of Marshalls, found their way to Seatons to East Lothian, but while I had linked Forum Allieni to the Setta's Skit liners, I didn't know until now that Alans could trace to Alan St. Clair of East Lothian. This Oliver link to names in the family of Arundels is therefore a significant find. Olive's (NorthAMPTON, beside Arundel) are being viewed as Levi liners proper, from Israel, at the Setta valley, beside a Savena river suspect with Swan liners to Sion/Sitten.
Why did the middle Henry Percy (above) marry Warenne? Ruling families of Varenne's (i.e. Ada of Varenne) are said to have had something in Sussex, where English Hammers (and Saddocks and Arundel) were first found (use dolphins in the colors of the Ham fish). There is this online quote, the best I could easily do to find the location: "...le village du Fougeroux de St-Etienne- du-Bois et la Grolliere, de Grand'Landes." Terms such as "Fore / Forez" may have derived from "Fougher." Might Arthur BalFOUR apply? Aren't Hamel elements from Balon? Repeat: "Hamelin de Balon at Maine, said to be from Desert, FOUGERoux, and St. Etienne."
Balfours use the motto, "ForWARD," and Wards share the Shield of Varenne-like Warrens. I didn't know until now that a Shield filled with the Warren checks is the flag of Surrey (where Varenne's ruled). Surrey is southern London and therefore connectable to Vere's of Oxford. Varenne's/Verone's were first found in the same place (Holland) as Ward-suspect Woerden, and share the raven Coat of German Bugs/Buggens (Bogen colors) exactly. Roets produced the Beauforts, so they say, and French Beauforts have a Beaufor variation that easily becomes "Belfour/Balfour," just as Belmonts are Beaumonts, who share the lion of Montforts, the symbol also (almost) of French Beauforts (all traceable with Boofima elements to Marano and Fanano). Then, English Beauforts/Ballafays/Belfou's (write-up shows a BEAUFoe variation) share the black-on-white chevron with Balfours/Balforts/Balfowers. The latter's baton can trace to Battins/Badens, first found in the same place as Roets. In this way, Arthur Balfour (leading Zionist) may have become anything in English politics due to Rothschild strings.
But, zikers, French Batons (Battin colors) were first found in Poitou (Poitiers), and use the Shield-and-Chief color combination of Saluzzo's in colors reversed. This picture reminds that Poitiers had early rulers with the name, Abalus, which might trace to Balls and Balon of the Hameltons. For example, Balons were first found in the same place as English Batons (share the bat with English Bugs), and beside the Battins.
It may be too early to ask whether "Abalus" traces to Alexander Balas, but as his line goes well to king Balliol of Scotland (goes to Bailey surname), whose family is in the write-up of the Scotts who in-turn trace to Alexanders suspect for a long while with the line of Alexander Balas. Alexanders were first found beside the MacAbee's who share white-on-green fish (salmon) with Hams. I had traced the Newman motto to MacAbee's without doubt, and the Bailey motto is similar, and then Baileys use nine stars in the colors of the eight used by one FOIX/Foy surname (sinister bend). If Foix's were a branch of Fougeroux's namers, then Mont Pilat elements can trace to Ile-de-France, where Foix'/FOYERs, Chappes', Levi's and Lys' were first found all suspect from the Cavii. It can appear that Foyer were of Fougeroux! Zowie, that's a good piece to have. The Foix/Foyer Coat is split vertically, as is the one Fugger Shield that may have the Saunier fleur upon it. Foix is an area both beside Rennes-le-Chateau and Comminges. The Fogherty wheat sheaf can now trace to the same-colored garb of Commings/Comyns.
The Bailey boar head then becomes suspect with the gold Campbell / Gord boar head, yet the Bailey boar is brownish, the colors of the Tool boar. There is a Muret location on the Garonne, in Comminges, and directly across from Toulouse while Murets (Gascony, Commings colors) look very Warren-ish, and may be using a version of the Bavarian lozengy. Further up the Garonne, to the west side of Foix, there is a Salat location on my atlas. The Ariege river passes through Salat, and has a source in Ariege, smack beside Foix, and then I was anticipating a "rege" motto term in symbolizing this river, but didn't know until the day after writing this paragraph that English Faux's use a "rege" motto term!!! That is huge, for Faux's are said to be a branch of the Vaux/Valibus surname, known also as a branch of, or merger with, Wells. One Vaux surname was first found in East Lothian, how about that!
Apparently, Vaux's were Foix', and Vaux's were not, therefore named after "valley," as the write-ups state, but more likely were of a peoples that named Foghertys/Foggertys and Fougeroux. This discovery tends to assure that Mortens trace to Muret, if indeed the Morton Coat is related to a Fugger Coat (it sure looks like it). Therefore, it looks like the Saunier Chief uses the Fugger fleur due to a Saunier merger with Foix elements. The Vaux-Crest lion, in the gold color of the Fogherty lions, is "gorged with a collar red and holding in the dexter paw a pair of balances proper." Dexters use weight scales too, calling them "weights," and the Weights share the same hunting horn as Lothians, who have variations like the Lauder location not far across the border of East Lothian. Repeat: ""Henry was succeeded by his son, Alan de St. Clair, who obtained from William de Moreville the lands of Carfrae in Upper-LAUDFERdale."" Lauder is near Duns while one Dun surname (Dunbars are from Lothian) shares a giant white-on-black eagle with Balance's, the latter now realized as being honored in the "pair of balances" of Lothian's Vaux's.
The namers of Roquefeuil should have been the Brittany Alans, who then removed to, and named, Roxburghshire, where Maxwells were first found who share holly with Irish Duns and a two-headed eagle in colors reversed from the Dun eagle above. When I get to that discussion, the reason for linking de Molle's to Roquefeuil will be repeated, and so while Mule's are also "Mulle," note the "MULlach" motto term of Irish Duns. The whole motto, "Mullach a-bu," is translated, "Victory for the Dunns," yet we don't see a Dunn term in the non-English version. What's that? Keep in mind that while Henrys use a giant spread eagle too, even the Irish Duns do so. I think it's clear enough that Duns and Dunbars were in cahoots with the rulers of Haddington, but while Keiths were first found there, let's not forget that Alice's (Musselburgh and Albin-suspect Alpin liners) share the Keith motto in reverse. As the line of Alice of Saluzzo with Richard FitzAlan (her husband) married the line from Vipont, it's notable that most Vipont kin found in the last update share white wings in Crest with Viponts, making them tentatively linkable to the white Balance eagle.
Reminder: Richard Fitzalan was ruler of Arundel while Arundels use the Swallow swallows while Swallows are traced in their write-up to Saulnier-like "Saulon," and there is a very good reason for linking Alans to Mr. Sauniere of Rennes-le-Chateau, because Alan Huns were likely the founders of Roquefeuil.
Let's now go the Balance surname, traceable to "Balon," apparently, to make what looks like a Lothian link to the Roquefeuil area. There are two Balons (with the 's') surnames, the one from Brittany, and the one said to be from Hamelin of Balon, which shares the same lion as Balon-like Palins, hmm, and Balons' are also "Balin." Then, here's from the last update: "The [Polworths] use their piles in colors reversed from the Paler/Baylor piles, who in-turn use them in pale fashion, suggesting a new find: Pale liners had modified into Balers/Baylers, which expects similar-termed Pale liners...through Camulodunum..." So, we now have reason to view Balon at Maine as a Pollock line to the father (Fulbert) of the first Pollock, who was at least a close friend to the Dol Alans, but I traced his first name to Feller / Fuller liners. In my mind now, this trace to Pollocks tends to obliterate a Balon trace to Alexander Balas.
The giant Balance / Dun eagle is in the colors of the same of Kilners/Kelners, suggesting that the latter are from Quillan (Aude river, where the Pollock motto traces), for the Quillan surname has a Kiln-like variation. As Quillans were traced to the Gore wolf (a trace not yet established as hard fact) it's worth reminding that the Gore Coat traces to Windsors and Alans both while Alan St. Clair married Miss Windsor. Houseofnames claims to use the earliest-possible symbols for all surnames, convenient for my work because it often goes back to the original Templar era, where lines from the Israeli priesthood are suspect.
As Hamelin of Balon was at the Maine theater (location of Balon), by what coincidence are Foix's traces to Foix-CANDALE?!?! Le Mans use CANDLEsticks!!! There you have the Maine connection to the Roquefeuil theater. Plus, Candale was ruled by Kendels, of the family of John of Gaunt/Ghent, who was actually a ruler of Candale somehow (details were not easy to find), and he was husband to Catherine Roet. As Candale is near Gironde (Aquitaine), I like to repeat that the gyronny that is the Arms of Gironde is used by Picards, while Catherine Roet's family originated in Picardy. The Palin-related Powers are traced in their write-up to Picardy, and it's also where the Cavetts were first found that I trace to the Cevetta river at Ceva. Luise of Ceva was mother to Alice of Saluzzo, and Chiava's/Sheaves' share the key with the Arms of Le Mans.
Candels use "ears of wheat," linkable to the Fogherty-Chief symbol, which is the same gold-on-blue garb as in the Chief of English Josephs, relevant because Candals are tracing to Maine, where French Josephs were first found. As the Ayrshire of Kyle's is home of the ear-suspect Eyers / Ayers, and while Shaws are honored in the Arms of Ayrshire, it's apparent that the Fogherty wheat sheaf is code for the Sheaves variation of Shaws, and as Shaws are key liners, so the Arms of Le Mans adds in a key.
It's a wonder whether the heraldic Chief is code for Sheaves, for as "Chief" is also like "Caiaphas," Italian Chiava's/Sheaves' have a Chiapponi variation. If this is correct, sheaves / garbs in a Chief are the most-important, though they appear in Crests prolifically. I don't know the precise meaning of a Crest, but it may have been reserved by law exclusively for an ancestral family.
The "FAILt" motto term of Foghertys can now become suspect with Roquefeuil > Feller liners. The Fail/Fall/Vail Chief (Velis colors) has spread eagles in colors reversed from the same of Ghents, first found in the same place as garb-using Josephs, and the Fails/Falls are in the colors of the Maine Josephs. Fields/Felds use three garbs. Ghents get us back to Candale at Gironde.
I'd like to show how Quintus Caepio is behind the Dol Alans of the Arundel kind, so that he can trace squarely to the two Joseph surnames. If the Josephs were in heraldry for any-old Joseph, there would be a thousand different Joseph Coats. Right? Watch how this exercise traces to Levi-beloved Ade's, and likely to Ralph Neville, 1st earl of Westmorland, and grandson of Henry de Percy, son of Henry, son of Henry. Why were Henrys in Percy? Does it have to do with Mr. PERCival in the Leavell/Lovell write-up? We start with the Rundel Coat being an obvious version of the Alan Coat, so that Rundels, first found in Kent, beside Arundel, are traceable to the Fitzalans of Arundel. As Arundel is beside he Hampshire location of Josephs, who are in-turn beside the Percivals and Pierces, we ask whether Henry de Percy, son of Eleanor Fitzalan of Arundel, named Henry Joseph of Hampshire in 1191. Why do Percivals share the muzzled bear of Alice's?
At one time the French Chaplins (Calvados) were showing a single chevron, which allowed no special reason for their trace to Josephs, but upon finding that the Coat was changed to two chevrons, both gold, I knew that the two gold chevrons of Josephs were of the French Chaplins, for English Caplans/Chaplins, first found in Hampshire, are using a version of the Joseph Chief. This is the area where Josephs trace well to Josephus, for the English Caplans/Chaplins are suspect with the Roet Coat. But Roets (same place as Percivals and Pierces) are now tracing very well to Rodez, home of Henrys. As you can see, heraldry has this revelation down to a discoverable science.
The Caplan/Chaplin-Chief GRIFFins (a term like the Joseph-Chief GARBs) are suspect with Herod / Berenice AGRIPPa, and while the latter was wife to Herod of CHALCIS, the CHALKers and Chaucers were both first found in the same place as Rundle's. And, a Mr. Chaucer married a sister of Catherine Roet. Her husband traces to the gauntlet gloves once showing in the Sion/Swan Coat, which itself shares the swan with the Chalker Crest, but then French Josephs, now sharing a footless martlet with Henrys, once showed a swan in the same colors.
The Chalker swan design, rare in my work, is in the Crest of Herds/Heards, who share hearts with Heartmans/Ards suspect with Herdmanston, where Henry St. Clair ruled, father of Arundel-suspect Alan St. Clair. As Herds use the otter, they are suspect with Uther Pendragon (traced for years to Saluzzo), who was a Gorlois liner and therefore a line to/from Arundel's Ceva / Saluzzo ancestry. Why is the Herd otter in water? Is it just because otters live in water? No. It's someone else's waters, such as the Waterman's/Wasserman's.
The FOOTless martlet is code for the Foots and Fothes'/Fittes'/Fiddes' now being traced to the "fydd" motto of Welsh Matthews (Foot colors). It just so happens that English Mathews share gold triple chevrons with Tenas', while the latter were looked up as per the "Tenax" motto term of Rundels, and, zowie, now you know why there was mention of the double chevrons of Chaplins, for they are in both colors of the triple Tenas chevrons. Most of the variations look like they belong to Tanners (Moor heads), suggesting Saluzzo / Ceva elements at the Tanaro river, and while Alba is on that river, Italian Alba's use the swan with a fesse in colors reversed to the Rundel fesse. Let's not forget that the Arundel swallows are suspect from Saluzzo liners. Of some interest, especially as "ALSace" has been a hard / impossible term to decipher thus far, German Alba's (expected with the Albany entity of Stewarts), were first found in Alis-like Alsace, and use a giant fleur-de-lys in the colors of the same of Lys'/Lisse's, resulting in an Alba trace to Lissus of the Cavii. Let's not forget that Albani were smack beside the Cavii, and that I've traced swan liners to lake Lychnidus, to the east side of the Albani (because lake Sevan was also "Lychnis", home of Sadducee-like Soducena).
The Cavii link to Luisa de Ceva seem obvious enough in all this, and the Matthews even trace well to the Mathis river (downtown Cavii-ville), especially as Mathis' were first found in the same place as Matthew-suspect Tenas'. Why are Aaron-suspect Rundels tracing to this picture??? The Cavii trace to Rundel-related Caplins, don't they? Luise of Ceva traced well to the ostrich-using Lois', and therefore to GorLOIS, while Gore's share the same fesse as Alba's. The "propoSITi" motto term of Arundels was therefore suspect with ostrich-and-key using Propers, and yet the Seatons/SITTens are highly expected in this Arundel picture, not only because they were first found in the same place as Alan St. Clair of Haddington, but because this Alan, son of Henry, is suspect with the Henry Joseph of Hampshire (i.e. beside the Arundels). We just saw Rundels of the Chaplin-Tenas' kind linking to the double Joseph chevrons.
The Tenas' can actually trace to Narbonne, beside Aude and Roquefeuil on the one hand, and beside Herod-suspect Herault on the other. Herault is suspect with Harald, father of Maccus, son in-turn of Seaton-related (or Seaton-suspect) Sitric. One Narbonne surname (Catherine wheel, lion in Tenas colors) is listed with DeNardos' (kin of Norths), and Tenas' have several Tenard-like variations. French Narbonne's/Nabonne's (Languedoc) use the same lion as the earls of Arundel.
The "propoSITi" motto term of Rundels should trace to the Setantii Brigantians, whom were at home between the Irish Coast of Lothian-like Louth and Lancashire, and then the Sedans, first found in Lancashire, are suspect with Seatons/Sittens because the Sedans use a "sino sed" motto phrase suspect with Sion/Sitten. Therefore, Seatons were traced to the Setantii, and in the meanwhile linked to the Irish line of Sitric, and meanwhile suspect with the Soducena term at lake Sevan. English Louths/Luds/Lowths (Levi colors) use a wolf in the colors of the same in the Spanish Alba Coat, and as McLeods come up as "Ludd," Louths/Luds/LOWTHs are suspect with Lewis' that named Skye and Lewis, where McLeods lived (in the Scottish Isles, where Sitric's family ruled). Lewis,' suspect as Levi liners, share a green dragon with the Crest of Sadducee-suspect Seatons. Rundels thus become suspect with Roens/Roans/Rome's (colors of the black Louth wolf) suspect with the motto of the particular Mackays (Maccus liners) that use black wolves.
These wolves can trace to the Neuri, the Nahorite suspects that I say were welded to the Roxolani Alans. While the Hameltons were separately resolved as Nahorites too, and while Hameltons were suspect with the Alan line to Renfrew, never before have I known this close Hamelton link to Alan St. Clair of Haddington. It tends to verify that the Dol Alans, or even the other Alans of Brittany, were Neuri-Roxolani liners, and to this we need to repeat that HERODotus, the historian / geographer who reported on the wolf cult of the Neuri, also reported on the nearby Budini, telling that they were blonde's (some say red heads), and then the Boyds, said to be a branch of Stewarts, are said to be named after "blonde" (not likely true, but the Boyd link to Budini is seemingly be played with in the dishonesty of some writer on Boyd origins). Herodotus, who lived beside Herod-suspect Rhodes, reported on a Geloni peoples that lived amongst the Budini, and this must have been the Alans who merged with a Rus peoples to become Roxolani = Rus-Alans.
These northerners are not to be confused with Rus of Rhodes, but one can make the Rus-Rhodes link as long ago as mythical Eros and Rhodes-like Erotes, sons of proto-Rus Ares, from the Aras river flowing not far from lake Sevan. While Rhodes liners are expected to trace to Rodez, the Roxolani Rus found them, and settled nearby Roussillon, called RosELLON by Spaniards. Clearly, Rosellon of Rox-like Roquefeuil was named after "Roxolani, " and so it becomes very apparent that Roslin was a Roxolani settlement. It's right beside the Scottish capital of Edinburgh. I can't begin to tell you what an enormous key this is for understanding the Rus dragon.
Where the Redones are said to have been Russi too, I see Roussillon mergers with Rodez. This is proto-Russia, and it is very credible that Communist Russia was an Alan-Rothschild scheme, a terrible one awaiting the Judgment Day. Ares was worshiped as an erect sword, which one can see in the Rundel Crest. The Bistones (same place as Meshwesh Amazons / Amazighen), who used the erect sword of Ares (I have read that), trace to the Bessin, where Meschins lived that trace to the Meshech, who are paired with Gog and Rosh in Ezekiel 38, and Rosh there must have been the Hros peoples that were mythicized as "Ares." Gogarene was a location between the Aras and lake Sevan. That was Ezekiel's Gog, and it goes through the Ligurian swan kings to Leicester and Rutland, where the Hamelton-related Bus' were.
Coponius Who? of Judea
As for the Bugs (share water BOUGets with ROSE's, beside the ROSS' and Rothes), they trace to the Bug river, known home of ancient Neuri, thus making the Rose's, Ross' and Rothes suspect with Roxolani. But before arriving to the modern day, these lines got hooked up with the Israeli priesthood, one of the most astonishing things found in my work. So, Bognor, at Arun, which named Arundel, is from the Bug-river Nahorites. The very brother of Abraham was destined to be the chief enemy of Christ in the last days, which is why God took Abraham, himself predicted to be the father of many nations, to destroy Nahor's end-time empire. What can be a more-astonishing story than this?
Rundels are said to be descended from barons of Cobham in Kent. I've known the Cobhams (Kent) before because they come up as "Copon," a term that was looked up as per Coponius, a Roman governor of Judea shortly before Pontius Pilate and Caiaphas took their jobs in Judea. After theorizing that Caiaphas was from Quintus Caepio's descendants, I didn't think it could be coincidental that Copons/Cobhams use a chevron in colors reversed from the Quint chevron, and this find was several months after resolving that Quints were from Quintus Caepio. I didn't think it was another coincidence that the Copon/Cobham chevron has black lions, the color of the Quint lion paw, and the color of the Levi lions. It looked like Coponius was a Caepio liner, significantly adding to the possibility that Caiaphas was too.
As the Cobham motto (Concordia) is a term used in the Arms of Rothschild, while Rothschilds have been traced from Istria, which had lines to Sturs, it's notable that the Cobham chevron is in the colors of the triple fesse bars of Sturs (Hampshire, same place as Josephs). The Cobhams are said to have had baronys in RUNham (suspect with Arun / RUNdels) and STERborough. The mouth of the Stur river is in Hampshire, near Wight, location of Cob-possible Cowes. The latter share piles with Guiscards, first found with Chappes'/Chaips in STIRling, while Stirlings/STURlings are using the Chappes Moor head. The Aarons are suspect with a Coat in French-Chappes colors for the reason that the clasPING hands in the Aaron Coat have traced to Pings/PAGANells, kin likely of Hugh de Payens, husband of Miss Chappes. The line of Hugh de Payens got suspect with Jacques de Molay, the Templar grand master in the time period concentrated upon in the Cobham write-up. The first baron of Cobham (created 1313) was HENRY, and as all Henrys in this investigation are being at least entertained from Henry of Rodez, let's add that his father, John of Cobham, was constable of ROCHester.
The Stur bars have already been traced to the bars of Leavells (one branch in ROXburghshire), and Leavells have been traced to Laevillus, whose family was in control of Judea/Jerusalem in and around 100 AD, after Titus' invasion took Jerusalem from the Jews. As you have seen if you've been reading even a couple of the last updates, Quadratilla and Laevillus trace to the black wolf, which was found also in the Clun/Cluny Crest, and this surname, expected with a branch of Shropshire Alans, was first found at STORMmot, in Perthshire (beside Stirling), and then Sturs are also "ESTURMy." As Motts/Morte's, first found near the Alans and Henrys both of Brittany, use an ESToile, note StormMOT. This Stur entity has been traced to the Stura valley, smack near Saluzzo while the symbol-less Clun/Cluny Coat is identical with the Saluzzo Coat. That's why the Saluzzo / Clun Coats have been identified with the symbol-less blue Chief of the Great Seal, especially as Seals use black wolves.
So, we now have three red-on-gold fesse bars tracing, potentially, to Perthshire, and it just so happens that Drummonds, first found in Perthshire (had a Drymen location in Stirling), use wavy fesse bars in those very colors. As Drummonds were called STRathclyde's, perhaps it was a Stura-river liner. In fact, I had tentatively identified "Strath" with "struthios," the Greek for "ostrich," and then the Lois' use a giant ostrich in the colors of German Drummonds and Cavetts, but the latter use fesse bars in the colors of the same of German Drummonds! Amazingly, the line of Luisa of Ceva and Alice of Saluzzo are tracing to Drummonds and Strathclyde, but as Ceva (Cevetta river) was traced to the Cavii peoples (beside or in the Clausula river), note that Strathclyde is partly named after the CLYDE river, like the Claud surname with a CLAUSEL variation tracing to the Clausula river! It works excellently, especially as GLASgow is near Stirling.
To this it can be added that while the Settle lozenges are in the Coat of eye-using Stars, I've just learned that Settle's come up as "Suttle," making them suspect with Shuttlewords (weaver's shuttle) and other Shuttle liners. Drummonds, suspect with Weavers on account of their wavy bars alone, were first found in the same place as Trips, and the latter are possibly in the "Trepidum" motto term of Trysts, who are in turn in the "Keep tryst" motto of Hebrons, and while wavy bars are being traced to Webers / Weavers, the Keep's use a weaver's shuttle! Therefore, Drummonds had become merged with Weavers / Webers.
The Clyde's, using the same fesse as Alans, are said to have been at MAULDislee of eye-suspect Ayrshire, making this place suspect with the Molds/Mauds that were identified with the Stewart lion. Trips go to Trypillians, an ancient peoples in the Ukraine, with a Trypillia location south of Kiev (near or amongst the Budini), which place had become suspect with Keeps, but now also with "WEAVer."
The Trypillians also lived on the AGARus river that has been traced to HAGARs...first found in Perthshire, no guff. I traced Annas of Israel to ANGUStus, off the Agarus river, and Angus is beside Perthshire. But Annas liners in Angusta are being brought to topic because Cabbage's/COBbalds/Cobells use an "angustis" motto term. As Cobhams/Copons are being traced to Coponius, by what coincidence did he rule Judea (can't recall the timing exactly) just before, or even in the time of, Annas, the hight priest in Jerusalem??? The Cobbs are nearly using the colors and format of Annas' perfectly.
The "ReBUS" motto term of Cabbage's suggests the Hamelton-related Bus', and then the Trypillians (near or on the Big river) were likely merged with Neuri. For those who don't know, "HAMELton" and "CAMMELL" were suspect with "Kemuel," third-listed son of Nahor, and "Bus" was suspect with Buz, second-listed son of Nahor. Camulodunum elements are expected with Kyle's of Ayrshire, where Kyle-like Clyde's were first found, and then, while Glass liners are traced to the Clausula, Kyle's share the Glass and Gleason stars. Lady Fortune of the Klassens may be in the "fortis" motto term of Cabbage's. Italian Forts use the Arms of Stuttgart, and the latter is suspect with the Stout vikings at Shetland, where I traced Drummonds and Alans together. Stouts use three fesse bars too. Proto-Alans, in my opinion, were merged with Neuri and Budini, but were found separately to be united with Trypillians at Forum Allieni / Setta valley. Drummonds were traced to "THERModon," related to Trypillian-suspect Trabzon, but as Trabys use ostrich feathers, they can become suspect with a branch of Trebbia-river liners in the family of Luisa of Ceva (Trebbia flows about 50 miles from Ceva).
If the Bus cinquefoil is the Potter cinquefoil, or even if it isn't but is the Lang cinquefoil (in Potter-cinquefoil colors), let's repeat that the proto-Alans of Forum Allieni were traced to Langhe, suggesting that Buz Nahorites were with the proto-Alans (or Roxolani) at that time and place. To put it another way, the Budini were suspect at the Bodencus river, now the Po, which has a source in the Langhe theater. While "cinque" is suspect with Quintus Caepio, "foil" is suspect with RoqueFEUIL. The letters in the Lang Coat were realized as code for LINKletters, whom were traced with a lynx found in an Alan entity to Lyncestes, smack beside Peleg-suspect PELAGONia, which can trace to the Stewart PELICAN. Lyncestes is suspect with the mythical patriarch of Danaans, and so Langhe / Lang liners are to be lumped in with Dane's, which is where I think Alans-of-Dol-proper derived. As Dutch Langs share the Zionist star of Vlads, so Flaad, and Danish king, BLATand, can trace to this Lang surname.
I didn't look the Fitzalan surname up until writing here, and have just added the following brackets into the last update:
The Justine Coat [Perthshire] shares a blue Shield with the same gold [on blue] border as Sauls/Sawleys, highly suspect with the Saulun variation of Swallows, wherefore Sauls must be Saluzzo liners. Sauls use falcon heads while the Oswestry-related Ducks use a falcon in Crest. The same blue Shield with gold border happens to be in the Fitzalan Coat, tending to clinch a Saul trace to Alice of Saluzzo.
Justine's trace to the Sirets, and the Agarus was later the Siret. Justine of Picenum married the imperial family out of VINKovci, where I trace Vince's, and then the Coat of French Vincents was traced to the Arms of Rennes-le-Chateau because that's where Da-Vinci-Code garbage concentrates while Vince's have a Vinch variation, and moreover the Vince's use a "sibi" motto term as code for Cibalae. The point is, the Vincents use a bordered Shield in colors reversed from the same of Rennes-le-Chateau, and the latter's is identical in colors to that of Fitzalans and Justine's. Why do the other Vincents use QUATRefoils?
As we are seeing an Alan trace to Perthshire and Stirling, it could explain the CamALLAN (Kemuel-Alan liners?) river of Stirling, but as proto-Alans of proto-Ferrari are suspect in cahoots with the Israeli priesthood, I now find that the Fitzalan lion is that also of Ferrari's. In all the years while tracing Alans to proto-Ferrari, I have not known this. As Forum Allieni got suspect with Strange's, note that the latter share two lion in pale with Jewish Levi's. The blue lion heads of Levi-beloved Chretiens are colors reversed, and Chretiens are now tracing well to Gratian, father-in-law of Justine.
The Chretien lion can now be traced to the Fitzalan lion because the Chretien lion is the lion of the Percys married by Fitzalans, and Percys are said to have used the Fitzalan lion:
In 1293 Henry came into his inheritance of estates in Sussex and Yorkshire, including Topcliffe Castle, the ancient family seat. In 1294 he married Eleanor, daughter of the Earl of Arundel. He then proceeded to change the family coat of arms [five fusils = long lozenges] to Or, a lion rampant azure ("Percy modern")(a blue lion rampant on a gold background). Blue and gold were the Earl Warenne's colours and a gold lion rampant had been the Arundel's arms. Alternatively the arms are said to be the arms of Brabant.
There is no contradiction in where the Percy lion traces, both to the Fitzalan lion, and to the Louvains (Brabant theater). There you see the Levi line of Louvains / Leuvens, which is why it seems certain that the same-colored Chretien lion applies. Reminder: the Percy location in Manche had traced to Wings/Winks, same Vinkovci line as Vince's.
I can tell you for a fact (it was recorded at least twice), that the Kent surname lion once showed the same lion design as STORMs (first found at the Stur-river area), which I recognize in the Cabbage-Crest lion. The Storm Coat lion design has since been changed, but is now the same lion (colors included) in the Cabbage Chief, and the Storm Crest even shares a black bear with the Shuttleword Crest! That's a good way to realize that Storms / Stur's/Esturmys were Star liners. Cabbage's are possibly using the Levi chevrons because they use the Levi lion in colors reversed. Storms were first found in the same place as Mott-suspect Mortons.
The Arms of the Cobham barony show black estoiles in place of the black lions above, and estoiles are an apt symbol of Ster lines. Sterborougnh is also STARborough. Instead of the Henry in the Cobham write-up, Wikipedia makes Reginald (died 1361) the first baron of Cobham. Henry is not to be found in the article at all. "[Reginald] was the son of Sir Reginald de Cobham by Joan, the daughter and heir of William de Evere. This Reginald was the second son of John de Cobham, by his first wife Joan the daughter of William Fitzbenedict. The family were based at Sterborough, LINGfield, Surrey." Judging by the time period, it looks like the older Reginald and Joan may have been parents of Henry.
Joan of "Evere" smacks of Yvery (Normandy), where Leavells are said to derive from. That could trace to Ivrea, home of Arduinici, suspect, with Henrys, as Herod liners. The Cobham chevron is in the colors of the Arthur chevron. The Henry-John combination is at Herdmanston, where two consecutive Johns succeeded Henry and Alan St. Clair. Recall that Edins/Edens traced to East Lothian (i.e. where St. Clair of Haddington ruled) for the Eden river is the location of Sterborough castle. Plus, the Edens are using the Cobham chevron, with black scallops on the chevron instead. It looks like Henry of Cobham was related to Henry Sinclair. The Arms of the Cobham barons hang a belt with buckle around their Shield, and Roslins use buckles.
Let's not forget a trace between Arundel and Haddington, for the "sit" motto term of Edins (colors reversed from Rundels) should be of the "propoSITi" of Rundels. The "Prudentia" motto term of Edins traced to the "Pratis" (= Prude's/Prats) in the Arms of Rieti in as much as Reeds (same place as Rodhams) share the gold-on-red garbs of Edins. Ask why Reeds above use a "COPia" motto term? Or, as why the Vespasian line should trace to Coponius?
Arthurs are the Arundel Table line, so to speak. Bank on this interpretation to the modern-British Illuminati. It identifies it with Rus of the Alan kind. But it doesn't trace only to Rus. The motto of the Arthurs includes "OBstantia", looking now like it should be code for COBhams, and that would then trace Cobhams to HOBs/Habs, first found in the same place as Arthurs! Hobs are the ones with the tiger that traces them well to OPgalli and TIGRanes (married), and Opgalli (suspect in the "OPtem" motto term of Teegers) had become suspect with the parentage of Caiaphas, and so here is another way to trace Cobhams to Coponius.
Wikipedia has an article titled, "Henry de Cobham, 1st Baron Cobham." The houseofnames write-up lifted quotes from this article without informing the readers, as houseofnames (in business to make money, not to be honest) does regularly. That's called low-down. Here's Wikipedia's version today:
[Henry] was the son of John de Cobham of Cobham, Kent, and of Cowling or Cooling, Kent (died bef. 30 March 1300), Sheriff of Kent, Constable of Rochester and Chief Baron of the Exchequer, by wife Joan de Septvans, daughter of Sir Robert de Septvans.
His father was a brother of Sir Henry de Cobham, of Rundale, Kent (died c. 1316), Lord Warden of the Cinque Ports, who married Joan Pencester (bef. 1269 - 1314/1315), daughter of Stephen de Pencester, and had Stephen de Cobham, 1st Baron Cobham (of Rundale) and John de Cobham (died c. 1314), without issue.
It looks like there were multiple Cobham locations each with their 1st barons. In the case of Henry at Kent's Cobham, his mother was Joan of Septvan, daughter of Mr. Pencester, and then Reginald, first baron of another Cobham, I must assume, was a husband of a another Joan, I must assume.
Aha! I didn't know it until writing to this point, found in the article above: "Sometime prior to July 1285, Henry [of Cobham] married Maud de Moreville, widow of Matthew de Columbers (died bef. 1284), whom she married before 1284, and daughter of Eudes de Moreville." Moreville's were of the Haddington St. Clairs. Repeat: "HENRY DE ST.CLAIR, vice-comes of Richard de Moreville, Constable of Scotland, from whom he received, in 1162 - for certain military services - a charter of the lands of 'Hermanestum...." If that's not a spelling error, Herdmanston may have been a Herman liner. French Hermans, sharing three fesse bars with Sturs, are also "HARTman." The other two Hermans show no Herd-like variation, but English Hermans share the Shield-and-Chief color combination of Saluzzo's. To help prove that Morevilles in the Haddington theater produced the wife of Henry Cobham, the latter's Arms were: "...Gules semy of fleurs-de-lis or, a cross argent". That is, there is a white-on-red cross, colors reversed from the Haddington-surname cross.
Next, the Cowling/Cooling location of Henry Cobham. Are "Cow" and "Cob" variations? The Cowling/Cooling Coat just happens to use the fleur-leopard combination, in the same colors, as the Morlands and Morleys. It looks connectable to Moreville's. The Cobham of Reginald, at Sterborough, is at the Kent border with Surrey, the latter where Ada of Varenne was from, relevant because the Ade's use the fleur-leopard combination. As the leopard is called a face, I don't think it's coincidental that Face's/Fessys use a cross in the colors of the cross of Henry Cobham's family. The Ade leopard faces are in the black of the lions in the Cobham Coat, and Fessys were first found in the same place (Quint-suspect Northamptonshire) as Cabbage's/COBbalds/Cobells. The Ade's were first found in Berwickshire, near Lauder and Haddington.
Ada's father married Isabel of Vermandois, daughter of Hugh CREPI. What's that? Is it of the Greep variation of Greats?
As Fessys trace to the Fieschi of Genoa as a certainty, it puts them at least near Ceva, which again makes Henry St. Clair of Haddington suspect with the line of Luisa of Ceva to Fitzalans of Arundel. As we just saw the Fitzalan lion traceable to Forum Allieni, let me repeat that, as per the gleanings I had made, by intuition or something more, that proto-Alans of Forum Allieni should trace to Langhe and Montferrat of Cuneo (where Montferrat was itself traced to "Ferrara"), I didn't know of the Fitzalan lion, nor of the Fitzalan trace to Thomas of Saluzzo, until the past week. The French Levi surname uses a "second" motto term, and the Second surname, first found in the same place as French Clairs (linkable to Alan St. Clair), are listed properly as "SEGUR," like the Segni's/SEGURana's of Genoa whom are honored in the Fessy motto phrase, "segno VINCES." This, apparently, is the line of Henry of Cobham as it relates to Henry St. Clair, father of Alan St. Clair.
None of that conclusion was written with the purpose of jibing with the earlier statement: "Next, the Cowling/Cooling location of Henry Cobham. Are "Cow" and "Cob" variations? The Cowling/Cooling Coat just happens to use the fleur-leopard combination, in the same colors, as the Morlands and Morleys. It looks connectable to Moreville's." Can we spot a COWling trace to "Ceva"? The Cowling leopard face is code for Fessy's/Face's, right? Moreville's, it so happens, use a silver-on-blue giant lion, almost the gold-on-blue giant lion of Fitzalans. The Segni/Segurana Coat uses the Shield-and-Chief color combination of Saluzzo's / Cluns/Clunys (Alans of Dol ruled at Clun of Shropshire).
The Joseph motto term, "WLAD," can be of the Vlads, but this name is suspect with Flaad, the first-known (supposedly) Alan of Dol. The Fitzalans (Shropshire), said to be from OsWALDestre (like "Oswestry"), even show a FitzFlaald variation. The Fitzalan write-up claims that the surname was from Dol and Dinan of Brittany, and speaks on Alain Fitzflaad, "sire of Dinan." The Dinan surname (same lion in Crest as the Fitzalan lion) is shown as a branch of Dimonts/Diamonds, first found in the same place as English Stewarts, and using what could be construed as a string of fusils, the Percy symbol. Why was Neil Diamond Jewish? The string feature (my personal term) is pronounced in the Coat of Irish Dimonts/Diamonds: "A silver shield with five red fusils each charged with a gold fleur-de-lis." It's probably important that these strings are used as FESSE's, for Fusils are likely a Fessy branch. Fessys were first found in the same place as Arundel-suspect Olive's.
Ceva is near CORTEmelia, and then the Cobhams, in the Rundel write-up, use a "ConCORDia" motto. The Cords happen to use the pheons of Tipps', but the Tipps pheons are in the Chief, upon a Coat with Shield-and-Chief color combination of Tanners. Tipps' were first found in Langhe-suspect Lancashire. My guess is that Cords are substituting hearts for the Herod-related plates (white roundels) of Mussels/Muscels, for the Cord fesse is colors reversed from the Hurt fesse, itself in the colors of the Herod/Hurl and Herl/Hurl fesses...which makes Cords and Cortemelia suspect as a hard-C version of "Herod." Can Cobhams link to Herods of Israel if they trace to Coponius? The Plate's are suspect with the grape vine of Herod Archelaus' coin, and then the Tipps' may be a branch of Top(p)s and TopCLIFFe's, who trace to GLAPHyra Archelaus, wife of Herod above. The Topps use the gauntlet, symbol of the husband of Herod-suspect Catherine Roet.
Later, you will see why the Mussel plates can link with Herods to Waleran, founder of Leavells. If you want to know right-away, see the Waleran description.
The Dinan/Diamond description tells that the Coat uses an ermined dancette, suggesting links to a Dance surname, one of which was first found in the same place (Piedmont) as Saluzzo, and the other first found in the same place as Percys. The Piedmont branch uses four pale bars in the colors of the triple chevrons of Danse-like Tenas'/Tenarre's, suspect earlier from Piedmont's Tanaro river. The "Tenax" motto term of Rundels/Roundells can thus trace, as expected, to Luisa of Ceva, mother of Alice of Saluzzo. Yes, the Fitzalans of Dinan just traced to the Saluzzo and Langhe theater.
The Fitzalan write-up tells of something I haven't known before: "It is believed [Alain] was a grandson of the Conqueror." As Alain is said to have held MILEham, it's notable that Mile's (same place as Josephs) use a moline cross (in the color of the same of Segni's/Segurana's), symbol of Moline's, the latter being traced in their write-up to the tanner of Falaise (the Conqueror's father-in-law). Mile's (share "industria" with Arms of Rothschild) share footless martlets with French Josephs, and English Josephs use a "charo" motto term tracing to Charo's/Clare's, first found in Ferrara. Are you getting the right message? I am much redundant so that no one can miss it.
One branch of French Clairs was first found in Brittany, and the other French branch uses roundels, obvious code for Rundels/Roundells, but they also use a leopard, symbol in the Chives crest. There are many leopards to trace to, but in the developing picture, Clairs should trace to Ceva liners, and, besides, while Clairs are from the line of the Conqueror, Chives' share a black Moline with the Moline's. You can't make a mistake about the filthy guts of this dragon. The line from Caiaphas resorted to hard-core piracy, and my aggression sought to rule the nations by force. The triple Clare/Clair chevrons are half in the colors of the triple Levi chevrons.
The Clairs with the leopard can trace to the marriage of Mosca's (southern Sicily) to rulers / elite of MonteCHIARO', suspect with the Chiaro variation of Charo's/Claro's. This Clair trace to Montechiaro is by multiple methods. One, the upright Mosca leopard is in the Chives Crest, and, two, the Clair Chief is suspect with the Anchor Chief while Anchors have been traced to Agrigento, near Montechiaro. The reason that a Mosca merger with Agrigento is expected is as per the Drake motto, and the Drake trace to Agrigento's Drago river. It's interesting that the Sewards use the Mosca leopard in what is said to be blue, but looks like purple, the color of the SKIPton lion, for the other French Clairs are said to be from LesSQUIFFIO, much like "Scipio." That can trace Mosca's to Alice Meschin of Skipton, and meanwhile trace Clairs to the Massena-Scipio alliance (expected to form a royal marriage).
Irish Clairs (share "non" with Nagle's) are very connectable to Arduinici of Oneglia, for these Clairs appear to be using a version of the Nagle Coat, but substituting the gold Nagle lozenges (Anchor symbol) for the gold eagles of Tanner-related Ghents. The latter traced to the namers of Genoa, and the Segurana's there share the MacArthur / Seager moline while the MacArthur crown is in the Irish-Clair Crest. While Oneglia was also ImPERIa, the Caens, using a "PERImus" motto term, share five, white ostrich feathers with the Irish-Clair Crest. This brings me back to the newly-discovered and apparent fact that the ostrich is a symbol of Luisa of Ceva, a location on Cuneo, where I've tentatively traced "Caen."
Recall the Biss surname (Meschin suspect) that I traced to Vis/Issa with Vex / Ves terms, for the Irish Clare write-up reveals Clair origins at Normandy's VEXin, where there is a Clere location. Then, the Irish-Clair motto, "VirTUTE non verBIS' can be part-code for the Biss', suspect from Meschins in the Bessin, location of Caen. The Tute's are Oilphant kin that can trace to the Elaphiti islands which I see related to Issa and Pharia, wherefore this Clair trace is important for establishing what is yet only a theory, that the namers of Ferrara was from Pharia elements. The Nagle's are Vere kin, and Vere's seem evident even in the Irish Clair motto., If "Virtute" (common motto term) is code for Vere's in union with Oliphant liners, then let's add that Rollo's, who use "tute," share the blue boar with a Cere Crest. Between the Elaphiti islands and Pharia is Melita, where I trace Vere-beloved Melusine, though she should trace also to the Mile's / Miles' because her mythical son was Milo. The Mallets, first found in the same place as English Clare's/Clairs, definitely trace to Melita, for the Elaphiti islands are beside Ragusa, said to derive in "deer," and then the deer in the Mallet Crest is suddenly connectable to DEREham location in the Mileham write-up. And Milehams (same fesse as Meschins) were looked up as per the Mileham location (same place as Mile-related Seagars) run by Alain fitzFlaad, a location mentioned in the write-up of Fitzalans who use the Ferrari lion, apparently!
The Ferrari lion links well to the same one used by Sforza's, for both surnames are from Italy. Italian law may have protected from just-anyone using the Ferrara lion. As the Sforza lion holds a quince, let's repeat that Olive's were first found in Northampton, where Quince's were first found.
The Vexin can be suspect with the Vipont/Vexpont location (Westmorland) that's in the family tree to Ralph Neville along with Luisa of Ceva. This Vipont branch married Cliffords (Drake wyvern), who use the checkered Shield that is the flag of Surrey, and Surrey is where Biss' were first found. Cliffords share a wyvern dragon with Lewis', now suspect from Luisa. As Cliffs/Cleave' can link to Cleavers (same place as Dereham and Derehams), note that the latter share the fesse colors of the Mileham fesse, and a full format in the shape and colors of the Meschin format. On Ralph Neville's father's side, his great-grandmother is a Clavering surname.
Unfortunately, Italian Dere's, in Mallet colors, have no write-up, and show a Coat symbol unfamiliar to me. It's a long object with fleur-de-lys ends. Wondering whether this was a Doria branch that married Arduinici of Oneglia, Dere-like surnames of an Italian look were entered, and the Dero's brought of Spanish Ros'/Rosa's/Rossals, which happen to use a spread eagle in the colors of the upper half of the Doria eagle. It's plain enough that the Doria eagle is the Ghent eagle in colors reversed, and Ghents were first found in the same place as Mile's who share the blue Segurana moline, wherefore all three surnames were apparently merged with elements from Doria's (Genoa). Irish Clairs, who trace to Oneglia liners, use nothing but roses.
While English Dere's use a "galloping horse," the Gallops use a "wyse" motto term once again indicating a Vis merger with something in Ragusa. Let's not forget that Ragusa (Dalmatia) is likely from Sicilian Ragusa, for Biss' and Mallets use Sicily-suspect scallops. The Gallops are using a gold-bend version of the David Coat, and while I traced the David bend to Goplo-suspect Misls (the only heraldic mouse I know of), the Goplo mouse tower was the home of the Goplans that Wikipedia gave also as GOLPiani, where Gallops/GOLLUPs can trace. Although the Gallop-Coat lion is colors reversed from the gold lion of Misls, the Gallop Crest has a gold lion.
I'm pretty sure that this Ragusa entity is from the namers of its alternative name, Laus(a), traceable to Maeonians at the Miletus theater (Maeander river), and to "Laus"-using Manders (share besants on red with Clairs), and to Millions listed with Mannions/Mannins. The Millions/Mannons/Mennons are even using the Coat of Oliphants (i.e. trace to Elaphiti islands smack beside Ragusa). The Oliphant motto even shares a "pour" motto term with Maness'/Manners.
I now turn to the Oliphants, confident that they were involved with Pharisee liners out of Pharia. The Oliphant write-up says that David de Olifard [Oliver liner from the earls of Arundel?) saved king David I in his attack on Winchester castle, and for that Olifard received lands (from David) in Alan-ite Roxburghshire, suspect from Roquefeuil. Earlier, prince David had to flee Scotland, and went into the protection of his brother-in-law, Henry I of England, the Herod suspect from Rodez. The Manders (from Maeonians near Rhodes) have a Coat version of the Rhodes' (roundels), and Oliphants were granted Arbuthnott, while Arbuthnotts (I trace them to Bute = Rothesay) share a "Laus-Deo" motto phrase of Manders. Oliphants are being viewed as Edomites (red color, like "Rhodes"), but I have yet to discoverer whether Herods were from Eliphas, the line suspect at the Elaphiti islands.
Winchester went to Caiaphas-suspect Sear de Quincy in 1207, before David became a king of Scotland. As David I became the earl of Northampton in 1224 (his first year as Scottish king), he was strong in the area where Saer held titles, and we then read: "The first recorded Saer de Quincy (known to historians as 'Saer I') was lord of the manor of Long Buckby in Northamptonshire in the earlier twelfth century, and second husband of Matilda of St Liz, stepdaughter of King David I of Scotland by Maud of Northumbria. This marriage produced two sons, Saer II and Robert de Quincy. It was Robert, the younger son, who was the father of the Saer de Quincy who eventually became Earl of Winchester." As Maud (David's queen) was the granddaughter of Siward of Northumberland, it explains why a painting of David I has him on his throne holding the Sword = Siward sword. Siward was traced to a line of Mieszko I, from the mouse-tower line, a good reason to trace the David Coat to David I, to Misls, and to the Gallops honored by Dere's.
The Henry Percys were rulers of Northumberland, making them suspect from Maud's son, Henry. The Percy location in Manche was near Villedieu-les-Poeles, where Sourdins lived. Seward liners? Proto-Stewarts were from Alauna of Manche, and "Poeles" may indicate Jewish Pollocks using the Valentin bend.
As David is the one who elevated the Dol Alans (by the name of WALTER) to the office of High Steward of Scotland, thus birthing the Stewarts, note that Saer de Quincy (earl of Winchester) was partner to Robert fitzWALTER. At his Wikipedia website, Robert's Arms show the Alan fesse with a chevron both above and below it, a rare design shared also by Steward-like Sewards, suggesting a fitzWalter link to David I's wife. Sewards (same place as English Stewarts), with a fesse in colors reversed from the Alan / Fitzwalter fesse. Is it possible that Siward's line got called "steward" as play on his name? Are Stewarts from Swietoslawa all along and I didn't know it? At Quincy's article, his alternative Arms are shown with the Alan fesse, and, in the Chief, a label of 11 points in royal blue.
As Swietoslawa was a Danish queen, let's enter the following from the article on William Percy, where it tries to nail down the earliest Percy entity: "The herald Robert Glover (1544-1588) derived the family from MAINfred de Percy, a Danish chief, who is said to have lived before the time of Rollo (c.846-c.932), Duke of Normandy, and whose descendants, named alternately Geoffrey and William de Percy, continued in succession lord of the manor of Percy." Why did the Danish flag use hearts all over?
"Maud was the daughter of the WALTheof, the Anglo-Saxon Earl of Huntingdon and Northampton, and his Norman wife Judith of Lens. Her father...the son of Siward, Earl of Northumbria. Her mother, Judith of Alen-like Lens, was the niece of William the Conqueror." Didn't we read that Fitzalans descended from the Conqueror? Maud's mother was the Conqueror's sister, countess of Aumale, wherefore note that the Aumale/AUBEmale surname (Aubins/Albins?) is linkable to Yorkshire's Percys, the ones married by Eleanor Fitzalan of Arundel. She married Henry Percy, and gave birth to Henry Percy, father of MAUD Percy. At the webpage below, we find that queen Maud of David I was sister to the wife of a brother the first queen of Templar Jerusalem.
I don't yet know whether Lens' were Alans, but Alans are coming very close to the first Templars / Crusaders, the latter always suspect with Herods and Caiaphas liners. It just so happens that the Lens/Leen/Leins Coat looks like a cross between the Cassius/Casano and Bernice Coats, and the latter's was trace to the Arms of Saraca, of a family that lived in Laus = Ragusa. Compare the Lens Coat also to that of Seals. Judith of Lens married secondly a man of St. LIZ (earl of Northampton, connectable to Arundel geography), which looks traceable enough to the Lys/Lise surname that I see as a version of "Laus". This man was Simon, son of David and Maud. Cassius' (fesse in colors reversed to the Dol fesse) were first found in Modena, where I am now tracing the Dol fesse. A good argument for tracing Dols to Cassius'/Casano's is that Stewarts share the pelican with Pattersons, while the latter have a Cassane variation.
As the family of Lens had involvement with Henry of HUNTingdonshire (son of David and Maud), note that Bernice's replace the black Zionist stars of the Lens'/Leens with black HUNTing horns. Bernice's are still suspect with Berenice Agrippa, which, if correct, can be expected as the Herod elements at the lines of Henry I and Henry Huntingdon. The latter location is in the area of Cambridgeshire, where Caepio liners are traced, whom are expected also with Saer de Quincy and Quints, the latter first found in the same place as Huntingdons (hunting horns, look linkable to both Pollock surnames). Henry of Huntingdon married Ada of Warenne, and this can link the English-Henry royals (after whom Henry Huntingdon was named) to Henry of Cobham, born around a century after Henry Huntingdon (death (1152).
Seward was being traced to Swietoslawa (Danish queen, daughter of Mieszko I) when I fell upon the fact that Sewards and Sweets share two white-on-red chevrons. These chevrons were linkable to Lamberts traceable to Mieszko II Lambert. But years before knowing of Swietoslawa, "Flaad" was linked to "BLATand," a Danish king whose line Swietoslawa married. It just so happens that the Sweet Coat looks very linkable to the Sere and Seer Coats! These are terms traceable to SAER / SAHER / SEER de Quincy. As Sere's, Seers (same place as Huntingdons) and Zerrs/Zehrers (axe) were traced to Zahringers of Baden, not that Sweets were first found in Somerset, same as Badens/Battins (axe). Sere's were traced to the namers of the Serio river, location roughly of Crema and Cremona, and Crombys are said to use a bottony cross, code for Buttons/BIDENs.
Zahringers are known to use antlers as symbol, and we see antlers alone, no stag head, in the Arms of Crema. The Adda river that meets the Serio was traced to Atha's/Baths, which are in the Button/Biden write-up, but then the Atha's/Baths are using the same cross as Fessys, now being considered with the cross of Henry of Cobham, perhaps relevant where the Cobham chevron is in the colors of the Seward fesse. The Cobhams (suspect with the Ade leopards) were on the border of the domain of Ada of Varenne, and her Ade line was traced to the Adda! That works.
I feel ready to announce (on the brink, anyway) that Sava-river liners of a Sauers/Sour / Zahr kind named Siward and the Serio river. Sayers/Sarah's use a bear theme linkable to the bears of Forbes', and Zahringers founded bear-depicted Berne's. This line may go to the Bernice's and related Burns, both first found in Cumberland, within the scope of Siward of Northumberland. While the axe in the Zerr/Zehrer Crest is code for Somerset's Axe river, the Zerr/Zehrer Coat uses hatchets that can link to both Hatchets/Hackets and Hatch's. The latter's Haach variation is then expected from Axe-river liners, suggesting that the Hatchet variation sprang up as play on "Axe." The lion-head design in the Hatch Crest is that of the Shropshire Rothes, and the two lions in pale of the Hatch's can link to Strange's and Gernons.
Walts/Waldeck(er)s, first found in Baden, use nothing but axe's.
The Hatchet Chief traces well to the Albino Chief, not just because Albins/Aubins were first found in the same place as Sewards, and not just because Albins/Aubins were from BARNstaple, but because the Albin/Aubin fitchee cross is used in the blue color of the Mea fitchee (same design) while Hatchets use a "mea" motto term. This makes for a good reason to trace Henry-Cobhams to Axton of Kent, and to the Actons/Axtons beloved of the motto of fitchee-using Cravens, but the bigger point at hand is that Mea's were from Brittany's Meu river, home of Henrys. After writing to this point, the next thing done was to seek some Creme-like variations that might prove a Cobham trace to Crema, and found Greens listed as Greme's (stags), first found in the same place (Kent) as Henry of Cobham. How about that.
Greens became suspect with Greenwich's (Kent), suspect with the Wallis/Wallace lion because Wallace's are in the Green/Greme right-up. Yet the Greenwich lion with crozier is that of Odins/Oddie's, wherefore Green liners are traceable to Ottone Visconti in downtown Insubria! Zowie, it looks like Greens, suspect in many verd-like motto terms, are from Crema / Cremona. There is a Lodi location at Milan, and even a Lodi/Lodis surname (falcon rising) that may have been L'Oddie liners. It reminds that Falcons/FalCONTE's (Ottone colors) are using the crescents of VisCONTI-suspect Conte's. English Falcons use a version of the Burn / Bernice Coat, all three surnames first found in CUMBERland, suspect with the Umbria location of the first Ottone's. The Falcons now become suspect with the Lens'. The WORKington location of English Falcons can go to the "work" motto term of the Sinclairs, which motto also honors the antler-using Conte's/Comitissa's and Falcon-related Conte's/Comites'.
I can't believe what just happened. I stared at the Lodi quarters asking whether they were the Petty quarters, but then noted that one Lodi variation could suggest the Lodge's and therefore the lodged stag of Dawsons, first found in Westmorland (where Ralph Neville ruled). I then wondered whether this was a line from the Lutts/McLeods or even mythical Lot of Lothian, but decided to check for a Lodd surname. The 'L' key accidentally missed so that Odds ("VERITas" motto term!) were loaded instead, to find a perfect reflection of the Lodi Coat! And it substitutes a "pelican in the top left QUADRant", same (almost) as the Pelle surname suspect with the motto of Visconti-traceable Pulleys, and looking like a version of the Dawson Coat with LODGED stag! This took place while inserting this paragraph above the one below (i.e. that was already written), so let me say again that the Pulley Coat is a version of the Gard Coat while Gards trace to Garda along the Adige river. Plus, the Lodge/Loge lion is also the Greenwich lion, and Loge liners trace to Falcon-suspect Fulk II.
The GreenADGE variation of Greenwich's can suggest an Adge variation of Adda liners. The Adge/Edge (same place as Meschins, who had a branch with Clare's of Kent) is in Greenwich colors, and traceable by the Each variation of Euganeo-suspect Augers to "respecting each OTHER," a phrase in the description of the Biss surname (Meschin scallops). It's not coincidental, for the Other/Otto surname is said to be from Lombardy, location of Ottone Visconti, and of the Adda / Serio rivers. It can suggest that the Adda was named by the same that named the Adige, the latter flowing near Euganeo. As Each's/Augers (Yorkshire and Northumberland) are sharing the Fitzalan and Ferrari lion, it's interesting because Este is beside Euganeo, and was very allied to Ferrara.
English Dawsons use an estoile. The talbot design in the Dawson Crest can trace Lodge liners to the Lothian talbot, if Lodi's were Lothian/Loudon liners. The Lothians are said to be from a Loudon location of Ayrshire, where Carricks were first found that share the black Dawson talbot exactly. It's not likely coincidental that Lauders ("SUB umbra" motto phrase suggests Insubres in Umbria), at the Lothian theater, are using a giant griffin in the colors of the Greenwich / Lodge/Loge lions, while circling the lion with a double-tressure border, as is seen in the Lodge Coat. However, I am having a hard time with derivation of Lothian and Lauder in "Ottone / Otto," but that's what it looks like. Lauders use a goose on a rock, same as Rutherfords who use their own peculiar border, called an orle, same as Rutlands. It makes the Lauder tree stump linkable to the same of Rodhams.
The double-tressure border is part code for Tresure's and Borders (both in Somerset), and so one should not that the scarlet color of the Tresure fitchees is in the crozier of the Greenwich's, and in the double tressure of Flemings. Somerset is also where Ludds/Ladds were first found that share the black scallops with Edins whom have already traced to Flemings of Lothian. Borders can be using the Sword swords for a trace to Siward, but as Birds/Burds use the flory cross of Flemish Bouillons (in colors reversed), Borders can in fact trace to Flemings, if they were a Bird/Burd branch.
Greens/Greme's ("Virtus semper viridis", green codes if ever we saw them) are said to be from Geoffrey Attagrene (1206), but ignoring the write-ups interpretation of "atta," it looks more from the namers of the Adda. There is a Scottish Greme surname listed with Grahams, first found in Midlothian, same as Roslin and it's line from Henry Sinclair! Perfect, for Henry Cobham traced to Henry Sinclair. As the Adda and Serio rivers are in Insubria, where I tentatively trace buckle-using Sobeys, let's repeat that Roslins use buckles. If we want to know why Roslins use square buckles, the Square's can now figure in as per the square in the Arms of Placentia (beside Cremona), and as per the heraldic square / canton see in the Dawson / Pelle Coats above.
At this point, I've got to say that the line from Coponius is looking quite in-the-thick of initial Templarism.
I've finally gotten around to checking the Lutts/McLeods, but the first Lutt surname to pop up uses the Lodi quarters in colors reversed!!! There are huge clues all coming from the Lodi location at Milan that I have never before noted. I wasn't going to re-load the McLeods until it was recalled that they use a "fast" motto term that gets the Fasts using the Petty quarters, which are the Lodi / Lutt quarters! Zowie, the whole world is tracing to Lodi. There's the proof that McLeods were a branch of Lutts/Luttleys.
As one can read in the Lodi write-up concerning a Sforza estate in Milan, the Lutts/Luttleys are suspect with the Sforza lion, which holds a QUINCE. After going through the royal Henrys of England, the Lutts/Luttleys continued through a family in Munslow Hall, Shropshire. Saer de Quincy had linked to the Dol Alans, right? From Shropshire, right? In this way, the Ottone-Visconti line through the Sforza's can go to the Fitzalans because the latter use the same lion as Sforza's.
As for the DOUBLE-tressure border, there are options: 1) the labels having a D'Bell variation; 2) the Blois' with d'Blois variation; 3) the Duble variation of Ble's/Blez'/BLET, the new kid on the block found in the last update. I've highlighted "Blet" because the Bloods/Bluds use "A gold shield with three BUCKS LODGED proper." The Blood Crest emphasizes antlers, which are without a stag head in the Buck Coat, but as the Buck antlers are in the colors of the same of Cone's and Conte's/Comitissa's, it looks like the lodged bucks can trace to VisCONTI's, es expected of Lodge liner. That Lodi location has just proven what had otherwise been difficult, that Visconti's were Conteville liners. The Bloods are said to be from "ap-Llud," which seems correct in a Lodi picture, meaning that the first Bloods do not likely trace backward in time to a Blood-like term. However, Bloods can trace forward to Blood-like terms, even Flood- / Flaad- / Vlad- / Walt-like terms. Floods (white wolf heads) use a "Vis" motto term that seems telling. There is thus a good chance that Visconti liners didn't get to Britain until
If you'd like to check the Blet surname in the last update, you can see how they trace to Herod Archelaus. I didn't realize that the triple Blet chevrons were in use with the Tenas'/Tenarre Coat when getting to them earlier in this update. Both surnames were first found in Burgundy, suggesting a match. Tenas' were looked up as per the "Tenax" motto term of Rundels, but the two terms are not clinched.
The Real King Arthur and the Berenger Mystery
Repeat: "Henry of Huntingdon married Ada of Warenne, and this can link the English-Henry royals (after whom Henry Huntingdon was named) to Henry of Cobham, born around a century after Henry Huntingdon (death (1152)." Although the parents of Henry Cobham are known, his father (John) was brother to "Sir Henry de Cobham, of Rundale, Kent," thus situating the Henry name of Cobham at least one generation earlier. Did you spot the Rundel look of "Rundale"? I recognize the Randal Coat (blue wolf in Crest) as a version of the Raines Coat, and as purple-lion Wrens are said to be from Raines, it recalls that this purple was traced from purple-lion Skiptons to general Scipio, founder of Placentia, where the Arms uses a blue wolf! As I trace the Raines motto to Judicael of Brittany, I trace Raines to "Rennes," in the same part of Brittany (Vilaine) as same-colored Plunkets! As Pollock-suspect Plocks/Plucknetts are from a Plunkett location, let's repeat that Rennes and Wrens trace well to Renfrew, where Pollocks were first found. Fulbert the Saxon is therefore suspect with Rundel liners, and Rundels / Arundels are suspect from the namers of Rennes, though I can't say yet which came first.
As Rundels are traced to Cobhams, the Randal / Raines lion now become linkable to the Cabbage/Cobell / Storm lion, and Storms once showed the lion design of Kents, making sense where Henry of Cobham was in Kent. Cabbage's were first found beside Arundel. Plus, the other Cobham location was at STERborough. The "terrae" motto term of Raines' goes to the motto of Alexanders, who share the chevron colors of Raines'. The Raines lions (in the colors of the Arundel swallows) were traced to the Newman lions before I knew that Alexanders were first found beside Arran. Years before that, and years before knowing the Newman surname (same place as the Stur river), I deciphered JJ Tolkien's Numenor island as Arran, eventually realizing that it was code for Newmans of Arran. Just compare ARUN and ARUNDEL to "Arran," proving that Randals and Raines' are Rundel / Arundel liners. This discovery comes naturally as I write, not a minute before starting this paragraph.
Having said that, Ronalds/Donalds, who share the Alexander motto, were first found in the same place (Kintyre) as Alexanders. Were Arundels Ronalds? Or did the Rundels form the Ronald variation of Donalds?
I need to go one further to prove what's being found. Arran was trace to Airaines, where Hirams/Hirons/Irons were from. Mythical "Hiram ABIff" (of the Freemasons) was deciphered as code for ABBEville, in Picardy near Airaines, and then the "ubi" and "ibi" motto term of Newmans had previously been recognized as code for MacAbee's/Abbe's, first found in Arran, but only later, while investigating Hiram Abiff, was it proven that Abbeville was named after the same that name MacAbee's/Abbe's. The latter, who share "aut" with the Raines motto, are using the fish of Hams, now suspect with Hamel(ton)s / Hamelins (i.e. Nahorites) of Haddington.
Early Stewarts were at Bute, beside Arran, but I trace proto-Dol-Alan as raven vikings to Bute's previous name (Rothesay), which JJ Tolkien called, Eressea, where he placed an Avallone location. And that's a major reason for my identification of mythical AvALON with Bute. Although I trace "Avalon" to French Avallon, yet "AValon" can be an Abbe-Alan mix. To put it another way, MacAbbe's were (as this discussion implies) from French Avallon, and earlier still from Avellino/ABELLinum of Campania, where I trace Nahorite-suspect CampBELLs. Avellino was home to a Hirpini wolf peoples, and while Exeters/EXTers use BELLs, "eXTRa"-using Randals, first found in the same place as Exeters, use the wolf. The Randal motto phrase, "extra NUMerum" suggests an Exeter link to Newmans. In this picture, the "NumeRUM" term is code for Roens/Rome's sharing the Campbell gyronny in both colors [later, this will be found with king-Arthur-related Italian royals]. The Porters use bells too, and are suspect with the Nahorite- / Budini-suspect Potters. The latter are of those Hampshire-area surnames that trace to the Baths/Atha's, in Somerset, where Roger Arundel had almost 30 lordships, who are a branch of Bats and a merger with Randal-like Randolphs.
We now have a slew of possibilities for the root of "Arundel," yet the Aaron surname can fit into this too, for it uses hands CLASping, and is in the colors of the banner in the Clas/Klassen Coat while English Banners (Marano/Mauritano colors) use a "Numine" motto term. They were first found in the same place as Orens/Orems/Oruns, the latter looking like a merger with Patents. Rons/Ronnes' (Calvados), like "Rennes," share a white wavy fesse with Dols, but in the colors of the Banner banner. The giant fleur of two Banner surnames needs to be viewed as Cavii liners through the banner-depicted Panaro river of Modena, location of gonfanon-banner Marano that traces to Moreton-Say in the city of the Dol Alans. The Says are part of the Seatons and Sutys, the latter using a "Nothing" motto term, same as the translation of the English-Banner motto. That motto is, "Nil SINE Numine," and Sine's are listed with Sions, to which Seatons and Sutys trace. MeluSINE was said by Nicholas de Vere to have been on Avalon, which was Bute, which had a blue-and-white lion as symbol (the Rory-of-Bute lion), colors reversed from the Banner lion. Lady Fortune, holding the banner in the Clas/Klassen Coat, thus becomes suspect with Melusine, especially as Melusine is in the Glass Crest. The Rorys (Caepio-line lion, right?) are said to be from the land of O'Neills, suspect with the "Nil" motto term of Banners.
As the Aaron hands are clasping in the clouds, we take this heap of piracy to the islander McLeods/Clouds, whose motto, "Hold fast," gets the Fasts using a quartered Shield in half the colors of the quartered Shield of Aarons. Aarons are a strictly Jewish surname, and, as is typical of Jewish surnames, the write-up fails the reader and customer by giving no geographical details, not history, no variations, no motto, no nothing, just as though some Jewish organization requested this from the sellers of heraldry. But what would they be afraid of?
Hagans use a quartered Shield in both colors of the Aaron quarters (or are they QUADRants as code for Quadratus liners?), as well as a flag (could have started as a banner) with a hand upon it, the Aaron symbol. The Hagans also use a boot, suspect as code for Bute, for Dutch Veys, who trace to Morgan le Fay of Avalon, use a boot. The Hagans even use the same lion as Fitzalans. Like the Rorys (Hand / Hanna colors), Hagans were first found in Tyrone, the land of O'Neills. Were g-less Hagans a Hanna > Hand liner?
I conclude that Arundel was a line from Rennes, beside a Montfort location along the Meu river. As Rennes is in Vilaine, while the Rundel motto is suspect with the Tanaro river, it's relevant that Vilains use the Shield-and-Chief color combination of Tanners. But just gawk at the symbol-less Vilain Coat, like that of Saluzzo's and Cluns. This can explain any Arundel / FitzAlan traces to Rennes-le-Chateau. As French Blains were first found in Brittany, they look like a b-version "Vilaine." These Blains have an excellent symbol in their "mullets pierced," for it, along with many other pierced stars, traces to Melita and Pharia both, if Pierce / Percy liners trace to Pharia. The "bello" motto term of Scottish Blains recalls that Carpenters and Fullers are a branch of Belli's, suspect with Bellamys at Pierce-suspect Perche.
Scottish Blains (motto translated "Peace is obtained by war," a motto of the devil) appear to be using a version of the fesse of Cliffs, first found in Shropshire, and kin to the Sticks that trace to the Ayrshire-related Shaws, explaining why Blains were first found in Ayrshire, and use the Kyle anchor to boot. These Blains definitely link to Alans. As the Kyle anchor became suspect with the Avison anchor, it's notable that Blains share a red rose with Avezzano's. These Blains use "an anchor enTWINed by a serpent" while it's readily visible that Twyne's/Twins/Twain are using a version of the Blain Coat. Additionally, Blains use "A sword erect proper with gold hilt and pommel." Swords use a hilt and pommel too.
That was a longer excursion from the Henry-Cobham topic than anticipated. His uncle Henry was from Rundale of Kent, and as Cobhams are suspect with Coponius, whom may have been a family member of Caiaphas, "Aaron" is still on the Rundel table as possibly the deepest derivation of "Arundel." The question had been whether the older Henry was from Henry of Huntingdon and wife, Ada in Surrey. She was great-granddaughter to king Henry I of France. What's that? He was a Capet. Wonder never cease, huh? After whom was this king Henry named? The tree at his page shows four generations back with only one Henry (the Fowler), but he's four generations back:
Rollo and Poppa are in Henrys ancestry, as is Hugh Capet. Rollo's daughter marries Aquitaine to produce Henry's royal father (Robert II). Hugh Capet is father to Robert II. This was the Worms line and includes Vermandois. But at the bottom of the tree, Ada of Auvergne has caught my eye, for as one Ada has traced well to Ade's, this is an aha! moment. Auvergne is where Fes'/Faye's were first found that use a gold-on-red bend, almost the white-on-red bend of Ade's, and Fessys use leopard faces as part code for Fessy/Face liners i.e. suspect in the Fes'. Fes'/Faye's even put a blue fox on their bend, suspect with the blue wolf of Randals. Therefore, the prediction is that Ada of Auvergne should trace to Ada of Varenne, wife of prince Henry of Scotland (never made it to king).
Wikipedia's article on prince Henry has his coin with a moline cross, traceable to the Chives / Mathis moline. Chives' are from Chivasso, I feel sure, and that is near the Bautica river, where I trace Bauts, first found in Auvergne. And it just so happens that the Fox/Shinnock surname had a SIONnach variation, said to mean, fox, that is probably not the original derivation of the name. In any case, I don't know whether this Irish Fox surname is in the Fes fox. There is a good chance that the Fes/Faye fox goes to the Foix's/Foyers using roundels, first found in Paris, home of the Robertians that put Henry I on the throne. Henry the Fowler was father of the Ottonians that can trace to Chappes-related Ottone's. Chappes' were first found in Paris too, and are expected in Rollo's family from at least the general time that he concluded the St.-Clair-sur-Epte treaty with France. Rollo married Valois, which, I've read, was in Brittany. His line with Valois produced Henry I of France. But why "Henry"?
King Henrys father had firstly married Rozala of Lombardy, and she had been of Ivrea...on the Bautica river! I didn't yet know this when writing on the Bautica above. Lombardy is where Ottone Visconti hailed from. It looks like king Henry was a Chivasso liner, perhaps a Chivasso entity that merged with Ivrea, perhaps even the Arduinici of Ivrea. Rozala sounds like she can link to Roussillon / Roslin. Her Wikipedia article has her in red and white, Rus / Redones colors. I've just found the Rossals, first found in Shropshire, recalling that Roxolani Alans trace to Roussillon. She married ARNulf of Flanders and produced a son, Baldwin, a name that derives from the Baltea version of "Bautica." Can "Arnulf," perhaps named as Arn-wolf, be an Arun liner?
Looking into it, it turns out that king Arduin was margrave of Ivrea too. Arduin's father, Dado, was a nephew of Berenger II of Ivrea, king of Italy, and father of Rozala! Arduin's father, Arduin GLABER, looks like a Claver/Cleaver liner, begging the questions of whether BERENger was a Berenice-Agrippa line of Herods while Glaber was a Herod-Archelaus / Glaphyra line of Herods, one of which named ARDuin. "Arduin was the eldest son of Roger, Count of Auriate (r. c. 906 – c. 935), a Frankish nobleman...The medieval county of Auriate comprised the region bounded by the Alps, the Po River, and the Stura, today the regions of the Saluzzese and Cuneese." The Saluzzo article goes on to assure that Saluzzo was founded by Salluvi, an alternative name for the Salyes, who were from the Durance river. The Auriatea term, somewhat like "Ard," may have named the Doria/Auria's that Arduinici married in Oneglia. Like the Henrys, the Doria's use a large spread eagle, and, like the other Henrys, Rossals use footless martlets (Alan symbol too).
The Shropshire Rossals were early at a Rosela location, sounding Italian enough, and it matches, in that regard, the Alan hold on Shropshire's Clun location that definitely traces to the Saluzzo's. It looks like the Alan Rus were in the veins of Rozala. It recalls that one of the first nine Templars was Rossal (or something of that spelling). As the six Rossal martlets are in the colors of the six Apple / Appleby martlets, this may be part of the line to "E. PLURibus Unum," for Eplers are showing Apple-like variations. Plus, Eppsteins share three red chevrons with Taddei's, first found in Tuscany, where Rozala's parents lived. This recalls that Bouillons, sharing the Taddei cross in the same colors, are traceable to the Bautica river with king Baldwin I of Jerusalem, brother of Godfrey de Bouillon. We have just found the Templar nest, I think, amongst Herods mixed with Capetians. Likely, Elizabeth Chappes, wife of the first grand master of the nine, was a Capetian.
As Arduin Glaber became count of Turin, it's very notable that Scottish Turins (share helmet with Pendragons) were first found in the same place (Aberdeenshire) as the Chives at Turin-suspect Tarves.
Recall Manfred of Chiaremonte, for the following may apply: "Arduin also managed to be on good terms with Otto I, who forcibly replaced Berenger as king of Italy. When Otto I invaded Italy, Arduin switched sides during the siege of Canossa and began to support Otto (can Ottone Visconti be named from this picture?]...Arduin later cultivated a marital alliance with Adalbert Atto of Canossa, whose daughter Prangarda married his son and successor, Manfred I. As a reward for his support, Otto I later appointed Arduin count of Asti." Canossa can traces to "Cannes," beside Herod-suspect Antibes. UTHER Pendragon traced to the Other/Otter Lombards, but here, this Arduin alliance with emperor Otto seems to spell out the true origin of mythical king Arthur, born to the wife of mythical GORlois = the real Luisa of Ceva. Does that not make sense? Ask the GORE crosslets, identical to the crosslets of Windsors, the latter said to be from the Other/Otter surname (Alan colors). Arthurs use CLARions, right? And so did the Alan kin (Hicks) in Glaber-like CLAPton (Somerset).
If you want a small shock, see that the Other Coat is a version of the Turin Coat! It looks like Arduin's friendship with Otto produced the manager of Windsor castle, which may suggest that there were some Arduinici liners at Windsor prior to that time. The "Watch" motto of the Other surname suggests all-seeing-eye liners of the Watt / Wassa kind, in a Watch-Westcott combination. Watch's/Wage's, that is, first found in the same place (Cornwall) as Wassa's/Gace's, are said to be linked to WEStcotts (neighboring Devon), in Wassa/Gace colors.
I can't boast that the king-Arthur mystery was solved in the few short paragraphs above, for it has taken years over thousands of hours of writing like this. The discovery happens to find some of the first Templar elements in the unlikliest place: Italy. Probably, the guts of the Templars were these Italians under discussion, for it is they who look like Caiaphas and Herod liners, and yet they existed at the time also on the French throne, and scattered everywhere. Still, some micro-group alone must have concocted the invasion of the Jerusalem temple, and Herod liners are probably more suspect than Caiaphas liners.
Others/Otters were first found in Huntingdon, what a henrincidence. Online quote:
"In 1078 [more than a century after the Arduin-Otto alliance], Walter Fitz Otho is mentioned in "Domesday Book," as being in possession of his father's estates. He was Castellon of Windsor and Warden of the forests of Berkshire."
Walter's son Gerald Fitzwalter was appointed by [king] Henry the First constable of Pembroke Castle, and commanded the English forces against the Welsh. This Gerald seems not only to have bestowed their name upon the Geraldines, but to have given the family the historical position which they have preserved. with "some slacks but no ebbs," till this day. His son, Maurice Fitzgerald, with "ten knights, thirty men at arms, and about a hundred archers," preceded Strongbow's main body to Ireland, took Dublin...
Windsor castle is in Berkshire. The Berkshire surname used a fret, what may have been code for ManFRED. Fitzwalters were shown above as the ones with the Alan fesse having a chevron both above and below it, a rare design also of the Sewards who put the Mosca leopard design on their fesse, thus tracing well to Mainfred of Montechiario, husband of Isabel Mosca. Strongbow Clare may trace to this Montechiaro element, for Clare's share three red chevrons with Taddei's. As Chiaro's/Claro's share the upright bull of Boso's/Bosins, see here: "[Rozala's] mother was Willa of Tuscany, the daughter of Boso, Margrave of Tuscany and his wife Willa." Boso (of a so-called BOSINid family) was from Burgundy, where he held power, and where the Mathis' were first found who share the black-on-white moline of Chives' (rare Mosca leopard design, no coincidence). The family of Godfrey de Bouillon had power in Lower Burgundy, and can thus trace to Taddei's of Tuscany. Rozala is in a dress of Bouillon / Taddei colors. All three colors in the Boso Coat are used by Taddei's.
It cannot therefore be a coincidence that the Berkshire Coat (Wiltshire) shares a blue bend with Chiaro's/Claro's, especially as Taddei-like Duttons use the Berkshire Coat exactly. They must be using the quarters of Mortons, first found in the same place as Berkshire's. As Tattons use quarters in the same colors, they must have been Taddei liners.
We now have two Mr. FitzWalters in the story, one the son of Walter Otho in the Other/Otter write-up, and the other the partner of Saer de Quincy, no doubt from the Visconti-related Sforza's, which again implies the possibility that Mr. Otho was an Ottone-Visconti liner. And while Sear de Quincy was in the Haddington area, that's where Alan St. Clair married Miss Windsor. I must assume that this Alan was of the fitzWalters born from Mr. Otho, and so Windsors were Stewart liners from way back them, at least. A lot of heraldry will trace to this nest. As the Fitzalans (Ferrari / Sforza lion) of Dinan traced to the fusils of Dimonts/Diamonds, see them in the same fashion with French Morrows (Mortons?), first found in the same place as Boso, and then the blue Chiaro/Claro / Berkshire bend is in use in the Scottish Morrow Coat along with an oak theme. The latter Morrows were first found in Angus, near the Chives' and the Turins, but this brings me to the rulers of Ivrea prior to Arduin, when it was held by the so-called Anscarids, named after an ANScar character that might possibly be of the Annas / Angus line. Angus' were first found in Fife, where de-Quincy's mother had ancestry.
The "Veritas" motto term of Angus' alerts us on a trace to Greens, now tracing to Crema at the Serio river, and, how about this, the Angus Chief shares the two stars of the Sere Chief! Therefore, it looks like the Green/Greme trace to Crema was correct, not to mention that the Sere trace to the Serio was correct. The Arms of Crema, aside from the arm-and-sword in Crest, used nothing on the white Shield but a red Chief, and this color combination is in use with the Angus Coat! Zowie, that is no small trace.
Again, Annas of Israel, said to be the chief instigator against Jesus, was also ANANus and HANAN, and then the Hanan Coat is, not only in quarters in half the colors of the Berkshire / Dutton quarters, but nearly a match with the Eure Coat that comes up as Ivrea-like "Iver." It is asking me to reflect on an Arduinici trace to Eure, and that's the location of Dreux while Dreux/Drews, I kid thee not, use the giant Angus lion (almost) in both colors. And Dreux's/Drews were first found in the same place as Mortons and Berkshire's, all tending to verify that Angus' trace to Otho, manager of Windsor castle, and to either the Anscarids and/or Arduinici of Ivrea.
The Wikipedia article on Baldwin IV (count of Flanders), son of Rozala, shows Baldwin likewise dressed in red. Baldwin is standing with an Arms showing gyronny in gold and black (Flanders colors), with a small red escutcheon at the center. There doesn't seem to be anything on the escutcheon. The gyronny traces to the Garonne river, as does John of Gaunt, of Flanders. There is an ancestral tree showing that Rozala's father was a son of Adalbert I of Ivrea, who was in-turn son of Anscar I of Ivrea. It looks like Rozala was an Anscar liner. When we go to the write-up of the Windsor surname, we find that William fitzOtho was also a patriarch of Windsors, and his son was Adalbert (2nd duke of Lombardy), same name as Rozala's grandfather above.
With Angus' tracing to the Crema location near the point where the Serio drains to the Adda, let's tell that the Adda flows from lake Como to the east side of Milan (downtown Lombardy), and then straight through Lodi. This update found that a Lodi surname is using a version of the Odds/Odo surname. Then, let's add that the Crema Shield, a red Chief with white Shield, is used by ANNANdale's, and while Adams were first found in Annandale, they look to be using a version of the Annandale saltire. This is being mentioned because Adams trace to Adam Kilconquhar (or Kilconcath), son of Miss Comyn that was traced well enough to lake Como. The thing that started the trace of Angus' to Crema was their "Veritas" motto term, and it's also in the Odds/Odo's motto, and Lodi looks to be no more than about 10 miles from Crema. No guff. It therefore appears that something of the Carricks should trace to Lombardy.
Adam Kilconquhar married Marjory Carrick, whose ancestry traces to Fife, if I recall correctly, where Angus' were first found. The Arms of Carrick share fitchee crosses with the Tarves surname, making Carricks a line, possibly, from Chivasso elements in Tarves (north from Fife). Marjory's mother was an Alan, and Marjory's second husband was Robert Bruce, lord of Annandale. It's a good bet that the blue-wolf Randals trace to the blue wolf of Placentia, where Ananes Gauls lived that trace to the namers of Annandale. It just so happens that Thomas Randolph, with Randal like name, is thought by some to have been a son of Adam and Marjory. It's necessary for Alans of the fitzWalter kind to trace to Walter fitzOtho, right? The Alans of Scotland got to the throne by a Walter shortly after Marjory (mother of the first Robert-Bruce king).
The Arms of Thomas Randolph are at his Wikipedia page. They show three red lozenges (or are they fusils?) on gold, colors reversed from the Other crescents and the Turin boar heads. The latter are the colors of the Adam stars upon the Annandale cross. The Windsors (Berkshire), using the same colors with their crosslets, even use the Annandale saltire in colors reversed, and share a stag head in Crest with the Arms of Thomas Randolph. If that's not enough, Randolphs (Moray) have been traced with certainty to Baths/Atha's for years, but it was in the past few weeks only that Baths/Atha's were traced to the Adda river, and here that trace is valuable. The Adda begins in the Swiss zone, and the Bath / Randolph cross is the Swiss cross too.
I'm still confused on how Baths/Atha's can trace to "Adda" while being related to Badens/Battins, and moreover tracing to Baden of Germany with little doubt. On the one hand, it suggests that Adda > Atha came first, then the B terms. On the other hand, perhaps "Adda" was a Baden like term at one time. The bends of Others and Turins are also the bend that, by themselves (without symbols), are the entire Arms of Baden. Badens/Battins had really traced to Badenoch, beside Moray, where Thomas Randolph was earl, and, of course, he was the patriarch of the Randolph surname (first found in Moray) now tracing to the Adda.
While Randals use a "Nil" motto term, Marjory's father was Niall, which is now suspect from the Nagle's of Oneglia i.e. the Arduinici there. As Neils list a Grail surname, it's a good bet that the Arthurian grail theme was at least centered on this surname. The "VINCere" motto term of Grails can link to Da-Vinci grail cult, but then note the WINCer variation of Windsors. Their saltire is in Valentin colors, and we know by now that Alans must trace to Valentinian. The "NumeRUM" motto term of Randals now becomes suspect with the Roens/Rome's (said to be from Brittany) because they use the same gyronny that Rozala's son stands with in his Wikipedia article! That makes Thomas Randolph a Rundel / Arundel liner, yet we need to ask which of his parents named him thus, or which of his parents were Arundel liners. Carricks are the obvious first-choice over Kilconquhar's family, for Niall is suspect with the Randal motto, and moreover Carricks happen to use a dancette, symbol of the Dinans suspect with the Dinan location of the Fitzalans. One Dance surname uses a fesse in the colors of the chevron that it the Arms of Carrick. English Randolphs use a dancetty border.
It just so happens that the Roens/Rome's/Rooms (not the Roens above) were first found in the Annandale area, and use the same fesse as Dance's. These latter Roens use a "Placit" motto term suspect with Placentia. Their "sed" motto term is used by Sedans suspect with the motto of Stubbs, first found in STAFFordshire, while the Placentia-suspect Randals use "A blue wolf passant with a gold collar on a green STAFF couped and ragully." Note the GREEN staff, possibly code for Greme's. Rome's/Rooms share the fesse of Augusts, but the latter through in an eagle's leg, symbol of the Bundle's.
By the way, German Randals were not loaded earlier; they use roundels (as expected) and "golden ears of wheat, BUNDLED, growing out of gold ground." Usually, ground and mounds are green as likely code for Green's/Greme's, but for the first time that I can recall, I saw a gold mound earlier, before coming to the gold ground of Randals. It was in the Crest of Odds! And it's called a "PIECE of ground." The Odds Crest is a dove (peace symbol), and the Peace/Paise surname uses the dove too. Let's elaborate: "A dove, wings expanded, holding an olive branch, on a piece of ground." WINGS expanded" is a Sword symbol, and traced to Vinkovci. the OLIVE branch traced to two children of the first earl of Arundel. We are definitely reading heraldry correctly here.
Niall was the son of Avelina fitzWalter. Where have we seen that surname before? It came from Walter fitzOtho, for one. "Avelina" smacks of Avlona, the alternative name of Aulon in the Epirus theater, where Kilpatricks (Annandale theater) trace without doubt, along with some elements that settled the Ticino river, beside the Adda. Kilpatricks use cushions, which you can see at Wikipedia's article on Thomas Randolph, but these cushions belonged to Thomas too. What was his cushion connection to Kilpatricks? Kilpatricks share the dagger with Comyns while Miss Comyn's son was in Annandale. The Dagger surname(s) trace to the Dexaroi peoples smack at Antipatria, where Kilpatricks trace. Cushions could be code for Cussons, a branch of Constance's, but first found in the same place as where Boso ruled. Did you read that Boso's use a banner, an item that traces to mythical Avalon? One real Avallon, in France, may have been part of the Burgundy covered by Boso. Lady Fortune, who also holds a white-on-blue banner, can trace to Italian Fortuna's, first found in Walter-like Voltera. The lion of Marano's, on the banner-depicted Panaro river, can trace to the identical Wallis lion and therefore to Walsers/Waltzers sharing Melusine with Glass', the latter first found in Buteshire = Avalon.
The German Randals make it appear as though the Rhine river applies to the surname, which reminds me that the Reno's/Rhine's and Pincs use red lozenges. The Thomas-Randolph lozenges are red. The Pincs were traced to Pincum, at the mouth of the Pek river, and the dove was traced to Cuppae, not far from the source of the Pek.
While Scottish Stewarts share the pelican with Odds', English Stewarts share ragully with English Randals. RAGully can be suspect partly with Ragusa, where Carricks have been traced.
Back up to Robert Bruce V of Annandale, son of Isobel of Huntingdon. The Others/Otters were first found in Huntingdon, what a gigantic "coincidence." The next Robert Bruce was Marjory's second husband. I think the Carrick trace to northern Italy has been made sufficiently.
The fetterlocks in the Grail/Neil Coat were a symbol of some early Yorkists. That piece of information was picked up at Wikipedia's article on War of the Roses. I didn't get a chance to study the owners of the fetterlocks when in that investigation (last update), but I was in the process of discovering how Yorkists traced to the Italian circles under discussion in this update. And Rozala looks like she can apply to roses. She (her painting) wears red, however, as does her son, suggesting Lancastrian elements, such as the Washingtons suspect in the "Watch" motto of the Others/Otters. Yet the latter surname is said to have "proliferated" in Yorkshire, and Yorks were first found in Wiltshire, where Berkshire's were first found.
A thing to be understood in the Ivrea picture is that the Bautica was, in my opinion, named by the Italian Botters, but tracing to English Botters and therefore, sparing the repetition, tracing also to Battins and Baths/Atha's. It would be expected that Somerset had both Bautica-river elements and Adda. But then there is the Ticino between them. And Chattans / Chatans trace to the Italian Botters by multiple methods, including the "bot" motto term of Clan Chattan. Another term used by Chattan is "Touch." As the Touch surname uses nothing but a green-on-white lion, colors reversed from the nothing-but-lions Tessons, the Touch's are suspect with the Ticino river, also called the Tessin / Tessen. The Tessons are the ancestry of Percys, according to the Percy write-up, and so ask whether it makes sense to trace Pharisee liners to the river of the Laevi?
Tessons can be traced to English Ayots (same colors), looked up as per the Ayot locations of Hyatts/HILTS, the latter suspect in the hilt symbol of Swords. As the latter were of Northumberland's ruler, it's apparently relevant that Tessons were first found in Northumberland. Of further interest is that Gilberts trace to the Ticino by their red squirrel, and by their "Teg" motto term suspect with Ticino variations (that formed surnames). Gilberts are a part of the known ancestry of Carricks, though no one seems to be telling this. There is a Gilbert Tesson in the write-up.
When we enter, "Bott," two surnames, one the English Botters, as well as German Butts/Bute's with many variations including "Boet," suspect with Sadducees. The German branch has a fesse in the colors of the Biden/Button fesse, kin of Botters and Baths/Atha's. That traces Botters to the Adda theater, close enough to the Bautica. It has been resolved that Ardons are using a version of the English-Botter Coat, and Ardons thus trace well to "Arduin." The alternative name of the Bautica, BALTea, may have something to do with "Walt," but, in any case, the heraldic bird BOLT can apply because Birds use the cross of Bouillons in colors reversed while Bouillons were first found in the same place as Bauts. The Fes/Faye surname was first found in the same place too, and then Morgan le Fay was an entity in Avalon = Bute. And Morgans share a green, upright lion with Tessons. Morgan le Faye was identified recently with Morggan of mar, and Mar can be suspect with the Marici of the Ticino. The Percy write-up says that their Tesson ancestry is also that of MARmions. If those are not Martians, maybe they could have been from earth.
Balts are listed with Bolts, you see, and Baltons are listed with Boltens. The latter use the same chevron as Gilberts and the Arms of Carrick, and Baltons/Boltens share a "vi" motto term with Chives', from Chivasso, smack beside the Bautica. Therefore, Carricks are expected to trace to Chivasso. German Baltons share white-on-red roses with the Gilbert chevron. The "vi" term got suspect in the last update with Vipont, at the Touques river, and that river is itself suspect with Ticino-related terms. "Touques" is like "Touch." And Balts/Bolts share the black griffin with Touque's/Tolkiens. The latter's motto can trace from Miletus to Melita, and as this was the Avalon line of Melusine to Anjou (according to Vere's), let's add that Tessons are said to have had a seat in Anjou. Then, here's what I wrote in this update on Ragusa / Melita liners before discovering Rozala of the Bautica river:
Unfortunately, Italian Dere's, in Mallet colors, have no write-up, and show a Coat symbol unfamiliar to me. It's a long object with fleur-de-lys ends. Wondering whether this was a Doria branch that married Arduinici of Oneglia, Dere-like surnames of an Italian look were entered, and the Dero's brought of Spanish Ros'/Rosa's/Rossals, which happen to use a spread eagle in the colors of the upper half of the Doria eagle.
Clearly, Spanish Rossals trace to Rozala. And "Carrick" has been traced without flinching to "Saraca's" of Ragusa. The Shere's and Schere's can be gleaned as Carricks, and Shere's (part of Kilpatricks) share black fitchees with Tarves', wherefore Carricks are again tracing to Chivasso. In other words, Saraca's proper may have been in Chivasso.
Let's go back to Anscar of Ivrea, Rozala's great-grandfather. And let's recall that the Chives' share the black-on-white moline with Mathis, first found in Burgundy; I'll capitalize a Mathis-like term in this quote:
Anscar I (died March 902) was the margrave of Ivrea from 888 to his death. From 877 or 879, he was the count of Oscheret in Burgundy...He was a son of the count AMADEUS of Oscheret of possible Bavarian origin with landholdings also in TEGERnsee [caps mine]. Anscar was a counsellor of Boso of Provence...
Italian Mattis', with a spread eagle in the colors of the Rosa/Rossal eagle, show a Matteuzzi variation. While the Rossal eagle is two headed, I reported several times, years ago, that the Mattis eagle had a bent neck, the kind used for two headed eagles. It had one head, but a bent neck indicating that it was a take from somone's two-headed eagle. I found the Mattis checks in an Arms of Massa-Carrara, which can explain why the surname comes up as "Massi." Carrara can be important to "AnsCAR." If correct, it leaves only the "Ans" portion to be deciphered. Annas? Wouldn't his descendants be expected with Chives liners?
What about that TEGERn term in the quote above? Look and see how German Teggers/Teegens/Tiganers use a Coat like that of Amadeus-like Metz's. The Burgundy reach of Boso may have caused some interaction with Metz (northern France), especially as Boso was a Carolingian tool (Metz married Pepins, the first Carolingians). Degens/Degers/Degeners were first found in Bavaria, where some think Amadeus should trace.
Although I've been claiming for years that Decks/Daggers were Ticino liners, I have never really had the clincher as proof. It wasn't that long ago that the Gilbert ancestry of Carricks was found, at the very time that the "Teg" motto term exploded in my face along with the red squirrel in Crest, shared by the Deck/Dagger Coat. But while this indicated that Gilberts had merged with Decks/Daggers, it still wasn't a clincher for a trace to the Ticino. But with Carricks now tracing generally to the Adda, and to the Ivrea and Chivasso, a Deck trace to Ticino liners is more assured. The largest piece of evidence was the Teck variation of Tessin-like Tease's/Tess', for as the latter were first found in Switzerland, that's where the Ticino originates. The Tess' were not known as Tease's until that term was entered, which got another Tease surname that was eventually coupled with the Annas star, which was itself a relatively late addition to the Caiaphas-line hunts.
I then came across the Deacons and Decans, using the same Coat with axes in both Crests, and, shortly afterward, "Artem" was entered to find then listed with Aitons, first found in the same place as Arthurs and Ade's, and sharing roughly the Deacon / Decan Coat. I didn't yet know that Ade's (Bath/Atha colors) would trace to the Adda, because that river was not yet found, but I did view the Ade's/Aide's as a branch of Aitons. Long before this, the Square's/Squirrels, sharing the red squirrel with Decks/Daggers, had been traced to the LAEVI on the Ticino on the one hand, and to the square in the Arms of Placentia on the other, where I expected the ancestry of Annas himself. At that time, I had not yet known of ARTEMidoros, and his line to Quadratilla and LAEVillus. Then, years after tracing the Ananes of Placentia to Annandale, home roughly of Kilpatricks, they with Pattersons were traced to the Apsus river, home of the DEXARoi, an amazing find. That was not many months ago, and still later, the Baths/Atha's, an old topic but tracing to the Adda, were found to be using the Deacon / Decan Coat in colors reversed, and moreover the Bath Coat was very linkable to the Artem/Aiton Coat that itself uses red roses on Coat and Crest that can very well be code for Rozala liners. I saw the rose-on-stem design in the Artem Crest in another surname earlier in this update, but didn't record which one (i.e. I don't remember). The axes in the Deacon / Decan Crests are therefore linkable to the Axe river, in Somerset, where Baths/Atha's and axe-using Battins/Badens were first found. Everything that I had been treading on years earlier, including the ins and outs of Arthurian codes, has proven to trace to Arduin and Rozala, and related or nearby elements Rozala was not known until this week.
From here on in, it's just a matter of finding more evidence that I've been correctly interpreting the links from surname-to-surname, surname-to-family, and from surname-to-geography. For example, the "DISpertire" term of Baths just prompted a search for a Diss surname, finding it with Dice's, like the Dyke's that share the red squirrel with Decks. It's a smaller world when heraldry codes reveal so many branches of the same line. And Diss'/Dice's were first found in Suffolk, where Deacons were first found that use a version of the Bath Coat. One can then ask what the Diss/Dice symbols can link too, and it's noted that they use roundels, and the colors and format of the Berwickshire Arthurs. On and on it can go (not rocket science, just a memory game, and better-played the more knowledge of things you possess) until one has read the codes properly. This work has given the world the basis by which to enlarge upon this method of discovery. If one could create a program that automatically brings up similar codes, one wouldn't need to depend on memory.
It should also be noted that while Clare's were first found in the same place as Diss'/Dice's, the latter use a chevron in colors reversed from the Clare chevrons and colors reversed from the Clair roundels, and, besides, the Deacons / Decans and Artems/Aitons use the same cross as Haddingtons while Clare's can trace to St. Clairs of Haddington. There are yet dozens of methods yet undiscovered to prove these same connections over and over again, with each new find capable, potentially, of discovering some new aspect within the storyline. Irish Arthurs use roundels themselves, and, by now, you've realized that the Arundel line had several fundamental kin represented by the naming of the several roundel colors. Arundels are expected to have married Plate's (white roundels), Pellets (black), Hurts (blue, perhaps Herdmanston), Besants (gold), but I have no solid idea on what torteaux (red roundels) refers to as a surname, and don't yet know what green roundels, or purple, are called, as they seem not to be named in the descriptions. Historians with a round knowledge of family ties could have a hay-day using these methods, plucking realities with speed, and yet I see nothing systematic of this sort anywhere online, as though historians have been deceived into thinking that heraldry is weak or unimportant for finding family ties. It's not weak when one understands that all the symbols were named after surnames, or something else. That's the key.
I've seen a blue roundel called a "disc," perhaps the Diss/Dice line. Indeed, the Duncans, who use a "Disce" motto term, share a gold-on-red chevron with Diss'/Dice's. The Donkeys use the Duncan motto, and donkey-using Chamberlains use both the Duncan chevron and a "proDESSE" motto term. The Donkeys are therefore suspect with the white-on-red chevron of Irish Arthurs, and Arthurs traced recently, to my surprise, to the Arc river, where I had previously traced Chamberlains i.e. to the Chambre location on the Arc. Chambres' use a red rose on a stem, suggesting a Rozala line to the Arc river. The Modane location on the Arc can trace to Modens/Modeys, first found in Berkshire, where Arduin and Fitz-Otho trace too.
Questions arise, for example, how directly were Russells or Roslins from Rozala? Is she a major line also to Ross'? She is suspect with the Rose's, beside Ross-shire, because Bosco's trace there while Bosco's trace to Busca.
The Ayot location of Hilts/Hyatts (dancette), and the Ayot surname, can become suspect with "AITon/AYTon," and as Ade's were traced to Quadratus along with Quade's, note that Atto's use the black wolf head of Quade's. This gets very important because Atto's were looked up as per that term appearing in the article on Arduin Glaber: "Arduin later cultivated a marital alliance with Adalbert Atto of Canossa." This tends to trace Artems also to Arduin while tracing Aitons and Ade's to the middle name of Mr. Canossa. I suppose that Atto liners could have been the Adda liners to Ada or Varenne, and, indeed, while Ada's family ruled Surrey, it is said to have had things in Sussex too, where Atto's and Heslingtons were first found. They are shown properly as Athows/Athals, perhaps a line to "AETHELing" and/or Athols. It just so happens that Ada of Varenne married Henry Huntingdon, an Aetheling!
I had even traced Siward of Northumberland to Aethelings, and it's the hilt symbol of Swords that traces Siward to Ayot liners. In other words, something in Siward's ancestry links to Quadratus, as his descendants went to Ade / Aiton / Atto liners. As Siward was of HESLington, itself an Aethel suspect, let's repeat that the "aris" motto term of Heslingtons/Hazeltons (LEAVES) can trace to "Arras," the Artois capital. Heslingtons use a chevron in colors reversed from the Ayot chevron. I had traced Heslington to the House's, one of which shares the Hazel leaf design and calls them cabbage LEAVES, and the other using a cross in Ayot-chevron colors. As Cabbage's/Cobhills (Levi chevron?) got suspect with Cobhams/Copons (beside Ada of Varenne and likely linked to her husband's Henry name), note that Cobhams likewise use a chevron in Arthur-chevron colors. It's as though the major players in Christ's geography went through Arduin-related Lombardy, which happens to use what I see as QUATRefoils, in the green-and-white colors of Ayots. As Cabbage's linked to Storms and related Sturs, note that the Stars (Wiltshire) use the same chevron colors as the Ayot chevron.
It's a much smaller world of surnames when reduced to their stumps. Heraldry is not concerned with any-old Star surname. This Star surname is now tracing with Ayots to Quadratus, and as he was resolved to be the all-seeing-eye line, compare "Ayot" to "eye, and see the eye centrally upon the Star chevron, which is the Ayot chevron. Again, the Eyes/Eyer / Ayre surnames use QUATRefoils.
As Ayot is in HERTfordshire, note that Hertfords are said to have been ruled by a count Alan, and that it shares the colors and format of Arthurs and Diss'/Dice's. The Quadratus line through Ayots can go to the Faucets via the "Fac et" motto term of Hyatts/Hilts, which gets Quadratus liners to East Lothian, home of Flemings and a host of other mainline-Crusader serpents. Rozala is suspect with these serpents as per her marriage to Fleming elements suspect in Balders of Flanders. The Faucet-Crest arrow can be code for the Aris/Arras/Arrow surname, using fleur-de-lys in Flanders colors. The Arras' are said to descend from Carolingians, which included Boso (Rozala's grandfather), and as Carolingians had ancestry in the Merovingian Pepins, note that the Arras fleur are connectable to the Pepin fleur, for I identified king Arthur as Merovingians in Britain. To be more sure that Arras' connect to Pepins (from Belgium = Flanders), note that Arras' were first found in the same place as Stubbs, while the latter use a version of the Pepin Coat.
Artois was the location of the Lys river that traces to the Lys river of Aosta (founded by Saluzzo liners) which is said to pour into the Bautica that flows to Ivrea, no guff. That's why Arduinici trace to Artois, in the Flanders theater, where Rozala got her husband, right? Okay, so now we know the score, and I'm winning; secretive king Arthur is being trounced and kicked into the open light. The Arms of Flanders shares the upright black lion with Hyatts and Faucets. In other words, a Rozala line to Flanders was part of mainline Templarism, and her line is expected in Flemish Lothian with it. And Lothian is the location of ROSLin, where there was way too much money there for it not to have been stolen somewhere. Some say that Hugh de Payens, who spent many years digging under the Jerusalem-temple site, married Catherine Sinclair of Roslin. I read that, upon leaving Jerusalem for Britain, he stopped in to see king Henry. It wasn't likely a courtesy call.
King Henry was an Atheling. Aethelings like Ad-like names such as Edward and Edmond, and king Henry was himself a son of EDith Aetheling, from the Duncan line now tracing to Arduin. Previously, Duncans were traced solidly to a mount Dunax on the RHODope range (map below). It's right beside the Serdi of Serdica, where Swords can trace. BAGARaca, in the land of the Serdi, can be where the Biggar Flemings originate, but Biggars were suspect also with Biharia, home of the Khazars / Kabars that I traced to Moray, beside the Rose's. As you can see, the Rhodope mountains are the source of the Arda river. Therefore, Arduin, as well as Henry of Rodez, and probably also Roussillon and Roslin, are from the Rhodope area.
Henry of Huntingdon was not only named after Henry the Aetheling above, but was himself an Aetheling, explaining, I now think, why he married Ada of Varenne. It's telling me that Aethelings, or perhaps proto-Aethelings, were the namers of the Adda river.
Faucets, who call their bend "compony," are said to have had relations with Grame's, a branch of Grahams now discovered to be Greme's too, and tracing satisfactorily to Crema. Grahams/Greme's are in Flanders colors, as are Athols, and the Graham Crest happens to be "A falcon killing a stork." The Killins are the ones suspect with Quillan in Roussillon, and Faucets trace to Foix of Roussillon, as well as to the Faux/Chaulnes branch of Saunier's. It just so happens that Grahams, who share scallops in a black Chief with the black Russell Chief, were first found in the same place (Midlothian) as Roslin. It makes a hard Russell link to Roslin. If this expects Roussillon liners in/from Crema and/or Cremona, I'd like to remind that I traced the CAT-using Croms (Berkshire), who share quatrefoils with Vincents, to Rennes-le-CHATeau (beside Quillan). Vincents are traced to a Cramm-like location, and this expects Vinkovci elements at Crema / Cremona.
Now, Chives' call their leopards, "cats," and the Keiths of East Lothian are said to be Catti. It's all adding up for a trace of Rennes-le-Chateau to Catti of East Lothian, and that's where Henry St. Clair ruled. Moreover, "Arundel," the Alan family suspect with founders of Roussillon, and with the line to Henry>Alan St. Clair, had traced to the term, Rennes, and Rennes of Brittany is in the same place as where Plunketts were first found who share a version of the Killin Coat! That tends to assure the Rennes-le-Chateau was from a line(s) in Rennes of Brittany. The Crom-suspect Grahams/Greme's are said to have been granted DalKEITH.
Russells, as per their write-up, had been traced to Rams in what ended up to be a trace to Modena elements, specifically at Marano. But then a giant ram is used by German CRAMers. There you can glean another Crema trace to Roussillon / Roslin. As Crema is on the Serio river, where Sere's and Sears trace, note that Croms and Feathers (white ostrich feathers) share the same chevron as Sere's and Seers, and that while Faucet titles went to SAER de Quincy, the Faucet-Crest arrow has feathers on it. What do Feathers and Arras'/Arrows/ARIS' have in common? Banks, I think. But also Hesse, for as I traced Heslingtons ("aris" motto term) to Hesse's with a giant sun, Fetters/Vetts (Bavaria) use a giant sun too. And Fedders (Bavaria) use two instances of "green banks," suggesting that Banks trace to Crema. Fedders: "...a blue shield BEARING [Barings bankers?] a trunk with a laurel branch, on a green bank; the right half is a silver shield bearing a black pelican in her piety, also on a green bank." Trunks share two Zionist stars in the same colors with the Bavarian Weis', and Hesse-Cassel has been suspect by many with the Bavarian / Rothschild Illuminati. Fetters share the Vipont wings (white feathers) with Weis-related Wies.' God knows the count, and He'll kick these thieving schemers to their resting place.
This reminds me of the writer on 13 Illuminati families, one of which he pegged as the Russells, and another the Bondi's / Bundi's, suspect in my work with ViPONTs.
Note that the Bank/BANCKES surname could be using a version of the Arrow/Arras Coat, for the international bankers around the Rothschilds had a Round table that links them to Artois elements. However, should we really be linking a Bank surname to bankers? Compare Banks to the BENJamin Coat (Flanders colors), noting the Fleming-suspect flames in Crest? And the Bengs/Bangs/Bings/BINCKES can be using a version of the Chives Coat. There are shown a Benny peoples on the Arda river of Thrace.
Repeat from above: "The fetterlocks in the Grail/Neil Coat were a symbol of some early Yorkists. That piece of information was picked up at Wikipedia's article on War of the Roses. I didn't get a chance to study the owners of the fetterlocks when in that investigation (last update), but I was in the process of discovering how Yorkists traced to the Italian circles under discussion in this update. And ROZala looks like she can apply to roses." Morays use fetterlocks too. Fedders can be traced with their "pieti" term to Lodi, beside Milan, for the Milans share a tree trunk / stump with Fedders, and Lodi traced to Lodi's (Milan) and Odds' sharing the quarter colors of Rothschild-suspect Pettys in colors reversed. Odds/Odo's (Sussex, same as Atto's) even share a pelican with Fedders, wherefore Faucets are tracing with Feathers to Lodi liners at the Atto-like Adda river, tending to reveal that the Adda named the Odds liners too, wherefore Walter fitz-Otho may have been an Adda-river family.
One Petty Coat uses a "needle" while Needle's/Nadlers use another giant sun. As Biss' can trace to Rothschilds via the Biss-suspect Russells, let's tell that Nettle's use "A black shield with two silver snakes entwined, respecting each other." These giant snakes are not only in the colors of the Biss', but Biss' have two snakes respecting each OTHER in their Crest. It looks like Needle liners can link to fitzOtho of proto-Windsors.
This Arms of Rothschild uses so-called elephant trunks as well as the quarters of elephant-using Pettys, but this can trace Rothschilds with Fedders to some Rus / Rod thing in Lodi (Adda river). Clearly, "pelican in her pieti" is code that included Pettys and Odds'/Odo's. The Arms of Rothschild even share ostrich feathers with Feathers. As the ostrich of Lois' has traced to Luisa of Ceva, it's possible that her first name was an outcropping from a Lodi-like name, for even Lothians/Loudens use the Traby hunting horn while the Arms of Traby have white ostrich feathers in Crest. The Trebbia river with a source near Ceva plays into this, but the new point here is that Lothian is tracing to the namers of Lodi and/or the Adda river.
I can glean that Feathers and the related picture traces to CHILLs/Childs, and therefore to king Childeric (Merovingian), making his name suspect with Quillan. According to Merovingian lore of modern times, they were in Septimania, location of Quillan. Septimius Severus traced well to the namers of Septimania, and he married Miss Bassianus, very traceable to Basina, Childeric's wife. But earlier in this update, a Joan of Septvan was found to be the mother of Henry of Cobham. German Roets, suspect with Rodez' Henrys, were first found in Thuringia, Basina's homeland. Roets had traced to Rieti, on the Thuringia-like Turano river.
Try to guess how many Mason-related French surnames trace to Childeric / Basina. Not three or four, that's for sure. Childeric (traced previously to the Salyes and to king Arthur) lived roughly at the time of Valentinian I (can't recall off-hand the exact dates), and the Feather motto uses two terms, "Valens et volans," connecting to the family of Valentinian I. Chills/Childs and Feathers (Sussex) are in the colors of the Valentin bend, and the squirrels thereof trace to the Diss/Dice surname sharing three spread eagles with Chills/Childs. The Diss/Dice surname linked readily to kin (including Irish Arthurs) using white-on-red chevrons, the colors of the Chill/Child chevron. The Valentin bend is half the saltire of Tecks/Tess' (FIVE leaves), Ticino liners in cahoots with Laevi, and while Laevi trace to Laevillus, husband of Quadratilla Bassus, the Atto's. sharing the Quade wolf heads, were first found in the same place as Feathers.
Google is seemingly covering up Yvery in Normandy, for in a search of " Yvery Normandy", Google brings up pages using "very" instead. The Google computer cant be stupid, and so someone must have programmed it to keep Yvery articles buried as much as possible. One can find the Yvery articles by searching " yvery Normandy -very ". One article has a piece, "Waleran [died 1177], first of that name, Lord of Yvery, and butler of Normandy." What did he do, go house to house in Normandy serving wine? What's a butler of Normandy? The best butler around, on call for hire by the nobles? The page (page 204 of a book) shows the Arms of Yvery, a triple chevron alone on the Shield's right half (viewer's left), but it's in black-and-white (not in color), or, if not, they are black-on-white, almost the Levi chevrons. The other half is pure white, no symbols, which could be the Clun / Saluzzo Shield. It goes on to reveal an early version of the Leavell surname but looking like "Laevillus":
Waleran...eldest son of William Gouel de Perceval, surnames Lupellus, and of Auberie de Bellemonte, daughter of Robert, earl of Mellent, his Wife, succeed his father in the estate of Yvery...he appears to have been lord of Yvery, and to have held for himself in the Ballywick of Tinchebrai...
I know what that is, Robert Beaumont of Meulan, had a daughter who married Lupellus, and the latter formed the Leavillus surname that I traced to LUPUS Laevillus! I hadn't known about this Lupellus piece before, wherefore it is very welcome. And while I traced Percivals to Perche, home of Bellamys, here we see that Lupellus was a son of the BELLmonts/Beaumonts. Waleran was "Galeranus de Ibreyo," what may translated as "of Hebrew," but "TincheBRAI" suggests Bray in Hebrew-suspect Evreux, home of Eburovices. I had traced Brays to Bra, in Cuneo and on the Tanaro river.
"Waleran" may be suspect with Wells/Wellers (pelican), for I read that Wells were linked to Meulan, and while the Arms of Meulan shared a Shield filled with gold-and-red checks with Vaux's/Vallibus', the latter (I've read that they were a branch of Wells too) are in the Faux write-up. It looks like Leavells can link to Faucets/Fauxside's.
English Wellers (Kent) are using two chevrons in white-on-black, perhaps the chevrons in the Arms of Yvery seen above. Google had not allowed me to find the Yvery location. English Wellers use roses in the Coat, and a red rose on stem in the Crest. Rozala liner? The "Steady" motto of Wellers can't be code for too many surnames, and it just so happens that Steads share the black bear head with Percivals, first found in the same place as, and obviously related to, Leavells! And having loaded the Percival Coat ("Sub" motto term) just now for the first time since mentioning the Arms of Crema, it too shares a red Chief with the Arms of Crema, AND, like the Arms of Crema and Yvery, Percivals use a white Shield without symbols. Bingo, we have found Waleran of Yvery in the English Wellers.
Walerans are said to descend from Waleran, count of Meulan. The "vos" motto term of Walerans (Devon, beside Leavells) suggests the Voss variation of the Faux's above, the ones traced to "Robert de Vals, de Vallibus, de Vaux was listed shortly after the conquest". There is an AITard de Vaux in the write-up that could be named in-part after Arduin of Ivrea. Aitons have already traced to Arduin. But the Artem variation of Aitons suggested Artemidoros (Doria family?), and his descendant married the line of tiger suspect Tigranes, suspect now with the tiger in the Waleran Crest. The Artemidoros-Tigranes line started with the marriage of Quadratus, whose daughter married Lupus Laevillus. I didn't make all these ingredients up out of thin air just because I wanted them to trace between Leavells and Laevillus; it just happens that way.
The Arthur motto had been suspect with tiger-using Hobs, first found in the same place as Aitons, and looking traceable to OPgalli, Tigranes' wife. It now appears that some decent evidence has popped up to trace Arduinici to Artemidoros. His father, Amyntes, was traced to Mynetts (Weller colors), first found in the same place as Wellers. Hobs were first found in the same place (Berwickshire) as Whale's, and the latter just happen to use the same bend as Turins and Others. When Arduin was the ruler of Turin, it was the line Artemidoros-Tigranes line upon it, right?
Why do Dols use a whale? Waleran's TINCHebrai location suggests Tinch's, first found in Shropshire. As Whale's are also "Whele," note that Wheels/Weels/Weale's (Weller colors) were first found in Shropshire. I can't be making all of this up. Walerans were of Devon, where English Stewarts were first found. German Wellers share the pelican with Scottish Stewarts and Arthurs ("OBstantia" motto term). The HOBs/Hobbs'/Hopps were first found in the same place as Leavells and Percivals, and share the Irish-Arthur chevron.
The "Sub" motto term of Percivals is shared by Lauders/Leathers (in the colors of the Percival patees), and as the term is suspect with Insubres, who lived at the Adda river, Lauders (from Lothian theater) can trace, just like that, to the namers of Lodi. Lauder is located essentially between bear-depicted Berwickshire and Lothian. Lodi is about 10 miles from Crema. We now know why Percival was high in king-Arthur lore. Percival was made the Grail King, and the motto of Lauders is shared by Laurie's using a giant grail. It looks like Laurie's and Lowrys/Glorys were Lauder liners, meaning that this grail line traces to Lodi. It's merely an heraldic load of garbage, probably tracing to the Cups/Cope's (roses, makes Rozala suspect with a Kupa-river family) by the so-called Laurie "cup". Arthurian myth writers fashioned romantic / chivalrous stories around this garbage, and made the characters look as non-Italian as possible.
The "candida" motto term of Percivals reminds that the Doria eagle is also the Candida eagle, and that traces to Oneglia's Doria family (married Arduinici). By the time of this sentence, there were multiple reasons for tracing Waleran to the Imperi owners of Boofima. It started with the Waleran surname, and the Weller trace to Faux's, the French branch first found in PERIgord. Like Nagle's, Walerans use "non," and the black bull heads of the Waleran Coat, on a white Shield, can trace to Turnbulls, apparent kin of Boeufs (fesse in the colors of the Nagle fesse), first found in Perigord.
I'd really like to know whether the Arms of Yvery use three black chevrons. The two of Walerans are colors reversed from the two of Ash's, first found in the same place as Walerans, and Ash's use a "Non" motto term too. Walerans use a "Vobis" motto term which I cannot decipher at this time, and Ash's use "nobis." German Ash's use a triple chevron, red on white. I didn't realize until now that the "D'esse Court" in the Ash write-up was a person, not a location (I sometimes speed-read). That allows one to enjoin the Court surname. It's funny how the Court/Coeur/Courtier surname, first found in Brittany, doesn't show when one asks for "Court." It shares roundels with Courtneys, and so these Courts trace to Arundel liners. One Waleron variation is, WalROND. With Arundels now known to be from Luisa of Ceva, nearby CORTEmelia is suspect for the roundel-using Courts.
While the Courts (lily) from Covert of Normandy use a motto suggesting links to Grands/Grants, Cortes'/Curtis' share three crowns with Grands/Grants (flaming rock traces to Alans of Roquefeuil). The latter are the five-pointed crowns of MacArthurs, while the "Stand fast" motto of Grands/Grants can link to the "ObSTANTia" motto of Arthurs, code likely for Stants/Stands, shown properly as Stains/Stane's. The hand from a cloud in the Stand/Stane Crest reminds of the clasping hands, from clouds, of the Arundel-suspect Aarons, who use quarters in half the colors of the Fast quarters, and the latter's can link to the Lodi / Odds quarters. The bend of the Fasts can be construed as the Other / Turin bend, but the colors on the Fast bend make it linkable to the Lorraine bend, especially as the Laurie's trace to Lorraine's.
Courts, when understood from "Cort," can be Hort / Hurt / Art liners. We shouldn't be so simplistic as to assume derivation in a courthouse. Spanish and Italian Corte's share pale bars with the lily-using Courts/Coverts. This lily has intrigued me. German Corte's look to be using a version of the Sere Coat, and Sears share black spread eagles with Courts/Coverts/Corte's. Susans/Susanna's use a giant lily while Rozala changed her name to Susanna:
On c. 1 April 988 she married secondly the much younger Robert the Pious (972-1031), the Rex Filius of France; the marriage had been arranged by his father Hugh Capet. According to disputed account she brought her husband Montreuil and Ponthieu as a dowry, other assert that she was berieved her right to that territory. Upon her marriage, she took the name of Susannah, and was the queen consort of the co-ruling king Robert, under senior King Hugh
Let's assume that Hugh Capet knew his ancestry in Caiaphas, and that he would want his lines to marry something as similar as possible. That's what makes Rozala suspect as such. Her other marriage was to Flanders, at the Lys river that was tied closely to the Lille location, which I say formed the lily that is the fleur-de-lys. As Rozala circles need to trace to Windsors at Berkshire, that's where Susanna's were first found.
Now, if we are ever convinced that Waleran of Yvery traced to Ivrea, we can keep in mind that the Courts sprang up as a topic here from D'esse Court, in the write-up of Ash's whom are highly suspect -- clinched, in fact -- with the Waleran surname. That's a good reason to trace the Court lily to Rozala. As her ancestry is in Boso of Burgundy, it's important that AUBERs and Torcys were first found in Burgundy, for Waleran's mother was AUBERie (daughter of Beaumonts). Robert Beaumont descended from Humphrey de Vieilles, of Torcy/Torville, a family of the HarCOURT Dane's (makes "Waleran" suspect with Vielles liners, but that may be incorrect). Both Beaumont lions are in half the colors of the Auber/HOBer lion (I'm not making any link at all between Hobers and Hobs, just putting it on the table).
Moreover, the Walerans, as old Walronds, are said to have had a mansion in Devon's Bradfield, while Brads/Breads (Midlothian, location of Roslin, where Rozala traces) use a giant lion head in the colors of the Auber lion. It tends to trace Aubers to Auberie. If I recall correctly, the Arms of Lille use a white-on-red fleur-de-lys, the colors of the Lys/Lise fleur, and then we find a white fleur as the only symbol in the CakeBREAD Coat. Bradfields/Breadfields are using a cross of the same style as Lille's, and in half the colors of the Lille cross.
Rozala is said not to have had children with her second husband, and so her descendants had to be though her first, ARNulf of Flanders. This name can be suspect with "Arun" or even the Arniss' listed with Annas'. It is feasible that all the terms, such as Randal, Randolph, Rennes, can stem from "Arun" as the earlier term. This exercise brings me back to an Arnissa location along the Genusus river with a source at the land of the Penestae peoples, where the Penes/Penny surname (same greyhound design as Loops) traces that shares the greyhound design of the Lys/Lisse surname. I'll entertain a trace of Arun's namers to Arnissa. We are now at the Mathis-river theater too, and Mathis' were first found in the same place (Burgundy) as Rozala's ancestry, and the Aubers. The latter's lion is in colors reversed to the same of Janis', who were suspect recently, with "GENUSus." See left side of map:
The Matthis, not marked on this map, has a source smack at the Penestae. Between the Mathis and the Genusus, the Albani can trace to German Alba's using a giant fleur-de-lys in the colors of the Lys/Lisse fleur. Clearly, there was an Albani merger with the namers of the Lissus location near the mouth of the Mathis. The Janis lion is blue, suspect with Caepio liners in the Mathis watershed, and it's the color of the Albany lion too.
It's interesting that German Alba's were first found in ALSace, which very-recently became suspect with "Alis," for the Alis share a sword with a fir tree with Alpins/Cappins, said to be from the kings of Scottish Alba. That works, don't fix it. The Penestae ruled from their capital (not shown) as USCANA, which was traced well to the Italian OSCANS, but then ANScar (like "Annas") of Ivrea ruled at OSCHeret (Burgundy). It appears that "OsCHER" may explain the ending on "AnsCAR."
Bradfields, expected to be close kin of Walerans, use ANNulets. The Letts, with a Shield-and-Chief color combination of Annas/Arniss', use organ pipes suspect with the Pipe branch of Pepins (fleur-de-lys). Pepin of Landen married Metz, a term like "Mathis." The Metz Coat uses a huge roundel, and nine smaller ones, traceable to Arun at Arundel, right? In a way, we have just seen a trace between ARNissa and Arun. It goes from something in Arnissa to Letts and Arniss', and to a marriage between Pepins and Mathis-river suspects. While Pepins use a "Mens" motto term, Mathie's have a Mann variation. And what could that something at Arnissa be? The namers of the GENUSus river may have named "Annas." There is an Annecy location to the near-south of lake Geneva, and while the MacArthur surname traces to the proto-Pendragon Penestae, and while the MacArthur crown is used by Mathie's, the MacArthur moline traces to the same of Segurana's, first found in Genoa. It looks good for a trace of Arduinici to Arnissa, and so why can't ANScar trace to the namers of the Genusus river, if indeed it did name Annas'? Anscar's home in Burgundy is essentially off the western shores of lake Geneva.
We now imagine that Arnissa / Genusus elements got to Oscheret, and we then check the Oscar surname to see whether it can play into the picture drawn thus far. It has a chevron in two colors, a rare item. And Oscars share three blue cinquefoils with (H)Amtons (roundels), while Arun is beside Littlehampton, Northampton and Southampton. "[Arun] contains the towns of Arundel, Bogner Regis and Littlehampton..." The CINQUEfoils, and the inclusion of Northampton, where Quince's were first found, can reveal that the Oscar Coat is using the Quint chevron. Quints were first found in Essex, and the Walerans are said to have been barons of Essex.
It was the Walerans that got the topic to Aubers, and the latter share an upright white-on-blue lion with Hoskins, a potential Uscana > Oscan > Oscheret line to Burgundy, where Aubers were first found.
There is a question on whether the Wells descend from Willa of Tuscany, daughter of Boso of Burgundy, and mother of Rozala. At Willa's page, her husband is on a throne having what look like red and white checks, though, possibly, they could be a subtle gold rather than white, which would make them in the gold-and-red colors of Meulan! And of the Vallibus/Vaux checks. I read, from a page on the Wells surname, that it was a branch of Vallibus. The Wells' (with an 's') share a two-tailed lion with Montforts, and then the Montforts were married to the Beaumonts of Meulan who furnished Waleran's wife, AUBERie! As Bauts were first found in AUVERgne, it looks like Auberie was an Auvergne liner.
French Vaux' (red ROSES) are listed as BELLEvaux (10 billets), and were first found in Burgundy! And, incidentally, the Vaux's were suggested as part with "Baux" several years before arriving to the Bauts and tracing them to the Bautica river. Only after that was it realized that Bauts list "Baux"! Therefore, Waleran's line traces to the Bautica river once again, and this time with certainty, suggesting the possibility that his name was from Willa. I'm not necessarily thinking that Vaux's were rooted in "Bautica," but the possibility is there, in which case Vaux's / Faux's / Faucets are suspect with a root in Botters. Here's a Wells Coat showing a single star in the colors of the stars of Scottish Vaux's (East Lothian, where we expect Rozala liners).
The Vaux's are said to have been kin to Gillie's. Willa is said to have been, Guillia, making Gillie's suspect from her lines with her husband, Tedald of Canossa. Although the article has Willa as wife of Berenger II, the image itself has the following minus what's in the brackets: "Tedaldus marchio (Tedald of Canossa) and his wife Guillia comitissa (Willa of Tuscany)." Tedaldus is now highly suspect with the Taddei's that had earlier appeared to be tied to Rozala's father. I had not yet visited the Willa page at that time to find this Tedaldus.
Gillie's were first found in Lothian, and use the Clan-Chattan motto that includes "bot" as code for Botter liners (whether they knew it or not when they formed it). Clan Chattan traces to the Keith Catti, doesn't it? One member of Clan Chattan, the Phersons, having a Coat like that if Gillie's, and share a black cat in Crest with Croms, what a cremincidence. Baux'/Bauts (in Odin/Oddie and Oddie colors) share the ram with Crema-suspect Cramers. For a few times, it seems that Rozala's family was in Lodi / Crema, and then Walers/Wahlens share the crozier with Odins/Oddie's, and it's red, like the crozier of Odin-related Greenwichs...who traced to Crema! Excellent, for this traces Waleran very well to Rozala circles. There are even red roses with the croziers, which is beginning to make me believe that, perhaps, all/most heraldic roses are from Rozala's very name. If you don't yet know, Crombys are in Lombardy colors, and are said to use a BOTTONy cross (with button ends) as code for Botter-related Buttons. Isn't this fun?
Heraldic croziers were traced to Creuse, near Auvergne, long before Auvergne got important for Rozala liners. The Waler/Wahlen Crest shares the white wings (same design) of the Genusus-suspect Geneva's/Genova's.
Note how "Cram" can reduce to "Ram." Russells are said to descend from one BertRAM fella. It just so happens that the English Bertram surname uses a "J'aVANCE" motto while the Lothian Vaux's are also "Vance"! You can't argue with the implications there. In the very least, Russells are tracing to Roslin; but more becomes obvious: Russells trace to Waleran and Auberie, making the Russell goat suspect with the ram of AUVERgne's Baux's. And Auvergne is where the FOX-using Fes' were first found, making them trace well to Faux / Vaux / Faucet liners. Yes, this is fun.
I reported for some time that Bauts use a goat. Perhaps I misjudged, or perhaps it was replaced by a ram. It was white then, and white now, the color of the goat in the Russell Crest. I am intrigued by the possibility that Russells may be rooted in Rozala rather than she being merely a branch of the Russell tree. Recall the "voBIS" motto term of Walerans, and the "noBIS" term of the Waleran-related Ash's, for the Biss surname shares three white-on-black scallops with Russells. Biss' are the ones with snakes "respecting each OTHER," now very traceable to the Arduin-related Others/Otters. You can bet that this Biss link traces Russells to the Bessin, and then Russells are said to be from a Roussel location in Normandy.
The Russell write-up traces to some association with Walter, son of Alan, in the Paisley area. Paisleys use roses. Paisley is in the Rennes-suspect Renfrew area, where Speers (spears) were first found who traced to the spears of Paisley-related Pasi's (Bologna, same place as Italian Bertrams), and then the Speer motto is "AdVANCE." It looks like, wherever Russells went, there went the ghost of Rozala. In the least, the Waleran-Auberie line was in the Speers. This is a good place to repeat that Sprees (same crescents as Speers) are using a Coat like that of Taddei-suspect Tattons. The Speer write-up mentions an IVERclyde location that may indicate Ivrea liners. Ivrea becomes suspect as a root of the porphyria disease, in case anyone is interested, especially if Tuttle's trace to Taddei's / TEDALdus.
Earlier, upon tracing Arduin elements to Berkshire, it was shown how the Berkshire's use the same Coat as DUDLeys, but I failed to recall that Tattons share their quarter colors. And the goat-using Mortons use the same colors for their quarters, which recalls that I traced Russells to the Marano's/Mauritano's (Marano, not far from Bologna). The ADvance term of Speers is connectable to the "Ad" motto term of Tottens/Toddens.
I kid you not, that a woman with Tuttle bloodline was corresponding with me who had porphyria. She was seeking the bloodlines responsible for this disease, when I suggested the Taddei's to her. She was known by another woman with porphyria, with a Pollock surname that was first found in the same place as Speers, and in fact the Pollock liner married a Mr. Speer. She asked me not to reveal this, but that was a decade or more ago; she's now in her mid-80s and has nothing to fear in the way of retribution for speaking to me. Emailer Pollock was likewise seeking the root of the genetic disease, and she with the Tuttle liner claimed that there is a sort of cult out there seeking to frustrate their hunts. It seems impish to do so, and of course it rings like a cover-up of the so-called "royal disease." None of this was on my mind when Speers traced to Tuttle-like Tedaldus. It looks like the royal disease traces to him, but of course not only to him. It wouldn't have been his fault if he had the bad genes. Royal / noble marriages on the incestuous side are suspect as the cause of the disease. Note that Willa on her throne looks like she's wearing deep purple:
It looks like Tuttle's and Dudleys both can trace to the naming of Tedaldus. The woman with Tuttle surname was sure that the disease was from Rollo, and heraldry traced Toothills (same chevron as Rollo's), listed with Tuttle's, to Rollo's, and even to the "tout" motto term of Rollo's. The Speer boar heads can link to the Rollo boar heads in colors reversed, and while Speers trace to Pasi's, Rollo's use a "passe" motto term. Rollo's share a black Crest with Tuttle's/Toothills. The woman with Tuttle bloodline didn't know any of this heraldic material when she traced the disease to Rollo, but it looks like she was bang-on, and it looks like I was destined to reveal more this, for these women were placed in my email life at the time for a reason, I conjecture. I knew that my heraldry work was perfectly positioned to discover the root of the disease. And here we are; it only took me 20,000 hours of heraldry work. Tuttle's list "Turtle," which may trace to a Tertullus. The Toots/Touts use a crescent in the colors of two Spree crescents.
Porphyria is called the purple disease for some purplish urine that some get. While Pasi's are listed as "Pace," English Pace's use purple roundels. The roundels trace the disease to Arundel liners, as would be highly expected by those who trace it to the Stewart royals. The Tuttle/Toothill Crest can trace to the black Crom cat, for we find a green term in the description: "A black leopard PASSant crowned, on a green mount." You see, the Pasi bloodline is even in the Tuttle description. As the Crom cat is now suspect, especially as the Chives leopards are called cat-a-mountains, it's notable that the other Toothills use a bend in the colors of the Chato/Chattan / Chatan bends, which can trace the disease to Chattan > Botter liners suspect at the Bautica.
The Toothill bend looks like the David bend with lion. Davids have traced well to David I, suspect as a Herod line from Rodez. A lot of Rus, such as Rollo was, should trace to proto-Rus in Rodez, and the same should apply to Rozala's line through Russells. But the Toothill / David bend with identical lion was found earlier in this update, albeit on a different-colored bend with the Goplo-suspect Gallops/Gollops. Pollocks trace to Goplo, in my opinion. This Goplo line traces to the Clausula river, as with the namers of Glasgow...the Paisley / Renfrew / Speer / Stewart theater. And the Clausula is suspect with Caiaphas' ancestry.
The woman with Pollock line also had a Comfort line, the one I suspect with the porphyria genes. My understanding is that the genes are widespread, but takes effect in offspring only when two parents both have them. Therefore, if Pollocks had the gene, someone on the other parent's side needs to have it too, and the Comforts were on her other side. Comforts/Comerfords share a white-on-red talbot dog with Fortuna's, and the latter are, once again, in the Rollo motto. Fortuna's were traced to the Clausula river because Lady Fortune is in the Clas/Klassen Coat.
Perhaps it's a coincidence, but it appears that there are purple bows on the white Comfort hunting horns. They may be red bows, but they look purple with all the surrounding blue. In any case, don't these horns trace to Huntingdon, the line from David I??? It just so happens that Pollocks use white hunting horns too. Pollocks share the boar with Speers. It appears that Glasgow-area families infected one another with the bad genes. The peacock in the Comfort Crest is for the Peacock sept of Pollock. Aside from suggesting the Deans (same crescents as Speers), I've never been able to crack the Comfort motto, "So ho ho dea ne," but "Houdini" just came to mind, and there is a Houden surname, first found in Auvergne. I see no evidence that HOUDINs link to Comforts, but as the ODIN crozier was traced to Creuse, beside Auvergne, the Comfort motto may be code for an Odin-related line, which then traces the Comfort motto to Lodi elements, and this makes the croziers of Walers/Wahlens suspect with the Comfort line. The Walers/Wahlens had traced above to Cremona (10 miles from Lodi). Lodi was traced to Lauders and Lothians, while the latter share the passant talbot design of Comforts.
Actually, the Deans work excellently for the Comfort motto because Italian Deans, sharing the crescents of the English Deans, show Decan / Deacon-like variations while the latter two have crosses linkable to the cross of Cambellfords/Comerfords (peacock, more red roses), kin of Comforts/Comerfords. Campbells are expected in the Rozala line because they share the same gyronny (same colors) as Rozala's son stands with in his Wikipedia article. How about that! It's like all the clear pieces of the muddy heraldic puddle are falling into place. As Italian Deans were first found in Placentia, it's notable that the Annandale motto looks like it honors Speer liners, and then Willie's/Wileys (another passant talbot) were first found in the same place as Annandale. As the Willie talbot is the black one of Carricks, her Annandale husband must relate to Willie's/Wileys. Was this from Willa and Tedaldus?
I can recall only one instance of seeing the griffin design of Vince's/Vinch's, but here they appear in the black-on-white colors, and format, in the Willie/Wiley Coat. The "Nil" motto term of Vince's thus goes to Niall, Marjory Carricks' father. For me, this is as expected, that emperor Caracalla should trace to emperor Valentinian. The two Will surnames use griffins too, and one of them shows black-on-white wyvern dragons. The other Wills list "Velis," and then a second Velis surname uses a "speravi" motto term while griffin-using Annandale's use "Sperabo." The "domine" motto term of Velis' can be for Julia DOMNa, wife of SPERavi-like Severus, parents of Caracalla. However well this works, the Vale variation of Velis' suggests VALentinian liners, which might reveal that Willa (centuries later) was such a liner. Willa's mother was Willa of Burgundy, and I say that Valentinian's family named Valence in Burgundy.
Note "speraVI," suggesting Viponts, which I wasn't going to mention, until the Vipont wings showed up in the Valence Crest upon loading it just now! And there's a red rose between the Valence wings!!! The heraldic puddle just got clearer. The Valence's above share footless martlets with German Valence's/Falens, but the latter's remind of the Henry martlets, Herod suspects, and then Valence is in the Vienne area of Herod Archelaus (to whom the green-on-white Henry eagle traced), which can now suggest that Valence's/Falens were Feller liners i.e. Roquefeuils in marriage with Henri IV of Rodez. It would make a lot of sense if Willa were a Roquefeuil liner. Falens can be suspect with Failins/WHELANs/Phalens, of the Walers/Wahlens, for example...meaning that Waleran of Yvery may have been a Roquefeuil liner. We read that he was the first person with that name. The heraldic puddle just got muddier as per whether Willa can still apply.
Whelans share a string of lozenges with PERCYs, and Waleran was a PERCIval liner (read also as PerciVAL), suggesting that, indeed, Whelans/Failins were Waleran liners. And it tends to prove that Percys were Percivals. But this in itself doesn't necessarily make the Waleran link to Roquefeuils, yet certainly expects his link to Valence's/Falins, which is important enough in that it traces him to Valentinian, where Roquefeuil-suspect Alans and the Great Seal itself traces.
Let's go on. Dutch Valence's/Valentini's/Falencia's (nice'a Italian names) use more roses, white this time, in the colors of the Susanna lily. The Velson variation brought Wilsons to mind, and, wouldn't you know it, there are two "VINCit" motto terms in the Wilson motto. Wilsons thus trace to Valentinian at Vinkovci. Irish Wilsons share the upright wolf of Wilsons above, and in the colors of the Henry eagles and Lannoy / Lyon lions. This wolf design is that of Quillans, reminding that Willa was also, "Guillia." Guilliams/Williams are coming to mind. Wilsons use a "qui" motto term, and Williamsons, a sept of black-wolf Mackays, look to be sharing the trefoils of one Shaw surname while another Shaw surname shares "qui." Guilliams/Williams use yet another passant talbot, as well as gyronny in half the colors of the same of Rozala's son! There is only one William surname amongst the myriads of Templar-related Williams, and here it's tracing to merely Willa, and not to the Conqueror???
Whose gold lion is that upon the William gyronny? Well, I got lucky to find it in the Enrico Coat just as soon as the paragraph above was done. I recalled that, during Henry investigations, Enrico's had been included. The Enrico lion is filled with fretty lattice. I wasn't going to mention the Willows, looked up several paragraphs earlier, until finding that Enrico's use fretty in the colors of the Willow (and Moden) fretty. To know for sure that Enrico's are using the William lion, the Williams share "verite" in their motto with the Willow motto.
It's interesting that while I trace Pavia to Peebles (south side of Lothian), Adalbert, a son of Willa, tried to conquer Pavia, while Williamsons were first found in Pavia. Peebles is where the parrots of Lodi-suspect Pettys trace.
I can tell you what happened. Bautica-river liners went to be with AUVERgne in the Bauts/Baux's, kin of Waleran's wife, AUBERie, and they mixed it up with neighboring Creuse, which is why Aubers use the same Coat as Creuse's! One might argue that, wait, it only reveals a natural / expected Creuse link to Auvergne, having nothing to do with Auberie and Waleran. But that's where the Waler croziers some in. And while the Creuse lion is in the white color of the Odin/Oddie lion, it's in both colors of the Oddie saltire and the Baut ram. In this way, the Comfort motto can trace to porphyria-suspect Bauts, for porphyria is suspect from Ivrea.
Now, as Rosicrucians, said to be named after Rosy-Cross, put a red rose on their Jesus-fake cross, it is becoming obvious that they were secretly from the Rozala-Creuse bloodline. This secret may have become lost by this day, but, this thing seems very implied by this discussion. They substituted Jesus for Rozala, or for something from her bloodline. There is an English Rosy/Rossi surname that I'm not familiar with, showing what can be the Chives leopard in Crest, for the Coat is in Chives-Coat colors. Imagine, if Chives' were a fundamental merger with Rozala's family, for that would place Caiaphas at the center of the worshipful cross of Rosicrucians. Here in the Mosca Coat is a full view of the Chives leopard.
Let's not forget that this leopard is used in purple (by Sewards) while Chives' are seemingly honoring the Toot/Tute bloodline with "Virtute" motto term. As Tuttle's/Toothills seemed to trace definitely to Tedaldus of Tuscany, note that Mosca's were first found in Pisa = Tuscany. Irish Tute's, I now recall, are using a version of the Tatton quarters, and these Tute's were first found in the same place (Norfolk) as Rosys/Rossi's and Vilains, the latter using a version of the Tanner Coat.
Amazingly, the Tute's are traced to a Berenger, no guff. He's Berenger de Todini, the son of Robert, duke of Normandy = the descendant of Rollo! Amazing. Willa, queen of Berenger of Italy, was born in 912, the year that Rollo took Normandy, allowing time enough trace Berenger of Todini to Tedaldus, who was likewise the husband of this same Willa. I have yet to check to see whether Tedaldus was the same man as Berenger by another name.
Wikipedia's article on duke Robert doesn't give him Berenger as a son, but does show ADALiza as a daughter, like "ADALbert," Willa's son. This can explain why Robert named his son, William = the Conqueror!!! In this way, the William surname can trace both to William and to Willa. Here's the Norman family tree:
I'm finding "Beringer or Berenger de Tosny or Toni or Todeni ..." I'm also finding "Robert de Toni or Todini" of Belvoir (Leicestershire, same as other Toni's), born around 1030. He married Adeliza de Plessis, a surname traceable to Placentia. Here's from the last update: "...Scottish Banners are said to use: "...a banner disPLAYed with a small SQUARE..." That's not a coincidence...As the Arms of PLACentia use a square (don't know the official name), by what coincidence are Plays, suspect in "disPLAYed," also Plessys?" It looks like one can seek Tedaldus liners in the Toni's of Leicestershire, and in Tosni-like surnames too. Toni's were first found in Tuscany! What a berengedence. While the Toeni's of Leicester owned the Leicester "sleeve" that comes with the white Leicester cinquefoil, which was recently linked suggestively to the white Flower cinquefoil, it's not a coincidence that Italian Toni's use "a silver flower, stalked and leaved green." The Flower cinquefoil is routinely linked to the Potter cinquefoil, and Potters were first found in the same place as Bautica-suspect Botters, first found in Tuscany! This is working for a trace of Todini's to Tedaldus and Taddei's, all three from Tuscany. The heraldic sleeve / maunch is code for Manche, explaining why it has an M-shape, and Manche is where Masseys lived.
The Toni Coat looks like a version of an Alan Coat mixed with the wavy Dol bar, but other possibilities exist. It compares with the Loop/Loppo Coat somewhat, suspect with Vis-de-Lou (see Fiddle's) in Normandy, but now also suspect with Lupus-Laevillus liners to Waleran. The latter's TincheBRAI (Normandy) is suspect from Bra-of-Tanaro elements. The Tinks (London) are using a chevron (surrounded by antlers) in the colors of the same of Brays (Northamptonshire, beside London). The "flax breaker" in the Bray Crest suggests Breakers/Brechs, first found in Shropshire.
Robert Toeni's father is said to be "Ralph or Rodulf Toeni or Todini". But why is the Conqueror tracing to this thing? Was "the tanner" a Toeni? The Leicester Tonys are traced to Toni of Normandy, and so I assume that it was Toeni.
Why does the Tute write-up claim that Beringer Todini was duke Robert's son while Wikipedia leaves this out? Is the standard line by historians a cover-up? Was duke Robert in fact married to a Willas liner? Was the Conqueror a Willa liner? His mother's father traced to the Tanaro river. Can't that make Robert married to a Willa liner? YES! I've never claimed that "the tanner" was himself from the Tanaro, but now, suddenly, things have changed. Duke Robert was born in 1000, about 30 years before Robert Todini.
The Tute write-up doesn't quite say that the surname descended from Berenger of Todini, but that there was a Ralph del Tuit "described as 'the man' of Berenger de Todini...", making it sound as though they were closely related. There was a Berenger, son of Robert de Tosni, but, apparently, some believed that this Berenger was a son of the Conqueror's father. Might some Anglos have opposed that idea, even if it were true, because it could make the Conqueror an Italian? The article below, which I'll probably quote from in the next update, says that Wiki "downplays" a trace of Toeni's to the Rollo line, where some have concluded that Rogerius Toenites was from the "stirpe" (stock) of Malahule, Rollo's uncle. The Meschins descended from Malahule on their male line. The page also says that Tosni's were from Ile-de-France with certainty.
The page does not use "Todini," thus leaving out an important ingredient / clue. It then goes on to say, no guff: "It is noteworthy that among the marriages [which involved Tosni's] that could close the family with high-ranking nobles, also with Baldwin of Boulogne, the first king of Jerusalem." The page seems computer-translated from another language, but what this is saying is that the Tosni's are connectable to the Baldwins of Flanders, and even to Godfrey-de-Bouillon (brother of the Jerusalem king above), the one suspect with Taddei's! "Raoul II took part with the premier barons in the court of William the Conqueror (1035-1087). He was the Normand standard bearer in 1054". The page reports that Toeni was a place name as early as 890 (many decades before the Conqueror), in one "Hugues I de Toeni (de Cavalcamp)", also spelled, Calvacamp. "The first known Toney ancestor ever was Ralph the son of Hugh De Calvacamp. Hugh's father was Malahulic/(Malahule) who came to the Normandy area of France from Norway on a Viking ship. He came with Rollo, or Rolph the Ganger. Hugh (jr.) gave his brother Ralph a piece of land called Tosni/Toeni, it was situated just across the River Seine from Les Andelys. The "s" in Tosni is silent therefore sounding like Toney."
The theory is that "Todini" became TOSNi so that Toeni / Toney, no longer reflecting "Todini," may yet have been a Todini liner. As Rozala, shortly after Hugh, married Flanders, here's a good piece: "Hugh (Hugo) De Calvacamp was born about 890 in Dieppe. Hugo (Hughes)'s father was Malahule Eysteinsson and his mother was Dame Maud De Flanders." The following is on younger Hugh: "Hughes I de Cavalcamp Seigneur de Conches had the following children: i. HUGH DE TOSNY was born about 912 AD in Tosni, Louviers, Eure, Normandy." The Eure surname, suspect with "Evreux," is listed with Ivrea-like Ivers.
The elder Ralph above is said, in the Toot/Tuit write-up, to be the origin of "Thwait," a version of "Tuit," and then there's a separate Thwait surname showing fretty lattice inside a cross, evoking the Enrico lattice inside a lion that linked to Willows! The Thwait cross is even the Sinclair cross, when the gold fretty is ignored. Thwaits were first found in the same place as Tute's/Tuits. Note how the derivation of the Thwait surname is completely out to lunch in a fantasy.
And look, the SatterTHWAITE's use nothing but ROSES on a Coat using the Shield-and-Chief color combination of Tanners!!!! And in the Satterthwaite Crest, a lion head in the colors of the William lion! Zinger, what mystery or solved mystery hath this wrought? See also the Living/Levin Coat. The Vilains (same place as Thwaits) are sharing the Shield-and-Chief color combination of Satterthwaite's, making for a Rozala trace to Vilaine, location of Dol, Rennes, and the Killen-related Plunketts.
Again, the Irish Tute's/Tuits use quarters in colors reversed from the Tatton quarters, and while the William Crest is partly a white talbot dog, the Tatton Crest is a white greyhound. "Tatton/Teyton" is close enough to "Todini," and while Tattons are said to have been merged with Masseys, whom in Cheshire were also called Masci's, see the "tot DISCrimina" motto phrase of Hamons, from Hamon de Masci / Hamon de Massey of Cheshire. Hamons share black-on-white stars with Williamsons, and the latter use a saltire in the colors of the Sinclair cross. I am getting the impression that the Normans after William were pure Masci's. I am starting to expect that Willa and/or Rozala were Masci's. Rozala's lines in Lothian must trace to Musselburgh especially. Mussels, with a version of the Meschin Coat, use white roundels = PLATE's, and then the Waleran Crest is described like I've never seen one before, as an "heraldic tiger PLATE" (accent on the 'e'). I've never seen "heraldic" in a description, suggesting the Harald surname, sharing a gold fesse with Mussels and Meschins, and traced recently to Maccus of the Isles, founder of Mackays who have the Williamson sept, and founder also of Maxwells who share the same saltire as Williamsons. This is a mystery I've got to solve. Maccus' family was suspect with the Rollo Danes, and traced to Seatons of the Musselburgh area. And Seatons, being Flemings, can trace to Rozala's husband.
Tweeds (Lanarkshire, Stewart domain) are Thwait- / Tuit-like, and use the Shield-and-Chief color combination of Saluzzo's. Tweets (Peebles, beside Lanarkshire) have the now-illegal colors (the two metals are not to be connected) found in the William talbot, and were first found in the same place as Williamsons. They share the gold Harald / Meschin / Mussel fesse, and have a pelican in Crest likely linkable to the Stewart pelican. The Flemish Biggars, of Lanark, use the pelican too, as well as a thin blue bend (rare), the Chiaro/Claro symbol.
I'm out of time, and definitely plan to continue on this first thing in the next update.
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