There are no speakable developments in Iraq, but some news will be given after the Cottius discussion.
After finding in the last update that the fretty-depicted Cottius family (merged with Maschi's / Masci's of the mace-using Macey fold) was a Mitanni one leading to Washingtons, I was intrigued. It helped to explain why I tend to see the Gace area of Normandy linked to Ferte-Mace. This is the root of Washington-DC Freemasonry, but there is a question as to whether it goes through Julius Caesar, or another line from the Cottius family. Chances are, it's the Caesar line.
No Julian symbol that I know of was used for early-American symbols, however, "Annuit Coeptis," a phrase on the Great Seal of the United States, is suspect as the Annas-Caiaphas line through Quintus Caepio. The the Caepio-line lion of Cobbets/Cubits could apply. As the Arms of Copeland use a blue lion, it's Coeptis-interesting that Cope's show a Coap variation.
The Spanish Capets use the English Folk/Fulke Shield while German Julians use the German-Fulk wings. Then, the Chapets use what could be the Caesar Chief. The Chapets are said to be from a Forez area partly in Loire (called "Leger" by some locally), and the Arms of Loire use a vertical dolphin, the Caesar-Crest symbol. The Loire dolphin likely traces to nearby Dauphine, too general to make a tight trace of Caesars by this method. The old Forez area is said, in the Chapet write-up, to cover from Loire (west side of Lyon), Haute-Loire, and Puy-de-Dome. These two other areas are further WEST than Loire and Lyon. Perhaps I or a writer were mistaken, but I read that Forez was a region to the EAST of Lyons, covering Isere. On my atlas, there is a Forez mountain range acting as the border between Loire and Puy-de-Dome.
Compare the Forez Coat to the Herod/Harald Coat, and be stunned if you haven't yet read any of my material. This match is a large part of the epitome of European history.
BUT LOOK. If one goes to the junction of Loire, Haute-Loire and Puy-de-Dome (at the southern end of the Forez mountains), it's the location of Saint Etienne!! This location, due west of Vienne-Isere, is that of mount Pilat, and where I traced Caiaphas liners in pre-Merovingian times (the Pilat-Etienne topic begins last December). I showed that the Etienne surname (roses in Chief) uses silver billets (metal bars likely of gold or silver), but this was before learning of the Caepio gold and silver bars, and before realizing (what was just realized now) that the Chapets were at the Saint-Etienne theater.
I had been wondering whether the Merovingians were from the Caiaphas line at mount Pilat, It was said that this mountain was named by Pontius Pilate. To prove this, it can now be noted that this Chapman Coat is using the same saltire, colors and format as the English Blade's/Blate's using the Pilate pheons!!! See also the Scottish Frank saltire that may belong to Merovingians.
I often show the German Blate's/Plate's ("Pilat"-like surname) in relation to the English Blade's, and remark on how they use a grape vine, symbol on the coin of Herod Archelaus, who was banished from Isere-like Israel to Vienne-Isere, near Lyon. And the swan design in the Blade/Plate Crest is the very one shown for French Josephs until recently. The Billet surname (look like silver Payens, expected with Chapet liners), sharing a white-on-blue chevron with Chappes', was first found in the same place (Maine) as French Josephs. That's why Caiaphas and Herod liners together are expected at mount Pilat with the Caepio gold. The west side of Puy-de-Dome has a Dore mountain range...that may apply in laundering the Caepio gold. That is, the Caepio group started a hapless gold-mining operation to falsely explain where they got rich.
There is a Le Puy location about 50 miles south of Saint Etienne that could be from the Puy variation of the family of Hugh de Payens. There is a Le Puy surname (honoring the lion of the tribe of Judah) using the same Coat as Leghs/Lighs/Leys, possibly the namers of Leger = Loire.
The Etienne billets are used by French Bassets, first found in Forez, and as English Bassets use the Drummond bars, note that German Drummond use bars in the white-on-blue colors of the Basset / Etienne billets (and of the bend of Bissets). The Bissets were first found in the area of the Bosco-related Rose's, and the latter is where the Chapet / Caesar roses may trace, per chance. The Bosco's once again use white-on-blue (color of the stars on the bar-filled American flag), and their Halton location will be traced later in this update to the Gates bloodline on the Aluta river (on the west of Moldova), and will include a fabulous revelation as per the trace of Ananes Gauls to "Neamt" of Moldova, not far north from Angusta.
Before I forget, I want to tell of a FIRMiny location (my atlas) on the outskirts of Saint Etienne. It was found that Angusta had a count by the name of Vrm that seemed to trace well to Worms and therefore suspect with firm-like terms as used by the mottoes of Bacons/Beacons and beacon-using Fullers, for example, important where Bacons are very trace-able to Bacau between Angusta and Neamt. The Carpi-based Carpenters are involved in the Bacon bloodline (the CARPathians separate Neamt from the Aluta), and they use a version of the German-Julian bars. In fact, when I discover a host of surnames tracing to "Aluta" (modern Olt), it will include the ELTons (as well as HALTons) using the Julian bars in colors reversed. After making that discovery, I ran out of time for this update. Then, during the proof read, this entire discussion was inserted here upon the mention of "Annuit Coeptis," which was not a part of the initial update. I have not been familiar with the Chapet surname, but just look at what it has given us at such good timing.
We naturally want to see the Firmin surname ("Firmus" motto term), noting that the Crest uses the cross types of English Julians. They are used by Firmins in red, the colors of the same crosslets used for Wears...from the Wear river through Durham (D'orham?). This is very important because Wears use the Bruce motto "Fuimus", like "Firmus"), and then the north side of Saint Etienne has a MontBRISON while Brisons look like Bruces. For, while Bruce's use a gold-Shielded version of the Annandale Coat, Brisons use the Annandale saltire in colors reversed. In fact, Brisons share the spurs in the (Clovis-suspect) Close/Clovse Coat, likely from CLOSEburn in Dumfries (named after Puy-de-DOME?), where Annandale is located. The Brison Crest is a hunting horn in colors reversed from the Close hunting horns. The Brison crescent is in the colors of the same of German Julians. The Brisons even use a white pheon, the color of the Pilate / Blade/Blate pheons, making a Chapman connection to Pilate's, as very expected where Caiaphas ruled the Israeli nation under Pontius Pilate's supervision (Caiaphas was able to convince Pilate to murder Jesus).
The paragraph above can trace the Bissets to the Italian Botters, for that is where the Close's trace. The Spurrs happen to use Close colors, but moreover use a bend in Botter- and Bisset-bend colors The Botters are part of the initial topic in this update, and can be tentatively suspect from BOTosani of Moldova. The Bisset-related Drummonds are expected with Trips to be from Moldova. Drummonds and Trips are important for tracing the Caepio-bar liners to the Hamburg theater, and then Trips and Hamburgs use the crosslets under discussion in gold, the color of the same crosslet in the Wear Crest. The Close Coat is using the Traby hunting Horn, isn't it? Why were Horns first found in Durham? Why do Horns share a heron with Dome's? Why do Dutch Horns use" ...a silver wavy bar, COTISed gold"?
It's not coincidental that the Cotis surname, listed with Curtis', uses a dancette. It suggests that the Donnus>Cottius line was involved with the Caepio gold in the Puy-de-Dome theater. The Cotis'/Curtis' are using the three Martel crowns, shared by Spanish Capets...which links the latter (suspect with royal Capetians) to the Chapets of Forez! The "FARMer" in the Cotis/Curtis crest may be of the Vrm > Worm bloodline, for Worms of Germany is known to be at the roots of the Robertians, the immediate ancestors of the Capetian royals. Therefore, the Cottius line is tracing to Angusta, not surprising because the Cotesii scythians were in the Angusta theater.
The billet-using French Bessets are suspect with the French Bests (Languedoc) using the same white-on-blue seen all over the Etienne topic. But French Bests/Bes'/Bais', suspect with the Bays/Baise's using the double Brunswick lions, use a single star in the colors of the same on the American flag. It just so happens that Dutch Bests/Beests (perhaps a branch of Beestons/Bessins) use red-and-white horizontal bars...very like-able to the stripes on the American flag. If this is a correct trace, then the Chapets are suspect in "Annuit Coeptis."
English Bests are in Capone colors and showing a gold fitchee, symbol of the Crest of Quints suspect with Quintus Caepio...whose family members went by "Caepionis." The ostrich in the Best Crest is suspect with the five, white Traby ostrich feathers shared by Cott-related Caens (corruption of "CAEpioN?"). This is important in this update where Cottius' family (which included Julius Caesar) will be traced to Trebia-river elements. English Bests use a "LEGibus" motto term, and Caens use "LICitus," perhaps for the Ligh/Legh surname. The "bus" term burried in motto's will be seen a flew times in this update, and so see that German Bus' (rare cross design) use what should be the Roman eagle, symbol, likely, of the American eagle.
The "Vivit" motto term of Brisons can trace to "Vivarais" mountains on the south-east of Saint Etienne. I would not withhold a further trace to L'viv at this point. The "funera" motto term of Brisons, and others like it, was traced to the father of Valentinian I, and it just so happens that the Vivarais mountains are beside Valence. The Brison Coat is even in the colors of the Italian Valentins. When you get to my suggestion later below of a "VAUGHN" connection to "VICENza," remember here the Faun-like motto term, and that Valentins were first found in Vicenza, and very good reason for linking the latter term to Vince's/Vinch's / Da Vinci's from VINKovci, birthplace of Valentinian I, and home of his father, Gratian Funarius...who is suspect with Valerius Gratus, the Roman governor of Judea who chose Caiaphas to become the high priest.
The Romans location beside the Vivarais mountains can trace to the Roman location in Neamt. The Ukrainian Roman(ov) Coat shares three roses in its Chief with the Chapet and Caesar Chiefs. L'viv is in the Ukraine. Russian Roman(ov)s use the gyronny, on what could be the Saddock Shield, in the colors of the Arms of Gironde gyronny. English Bus' use the ermined cinquefoil in the Arms of Leicester, and Bus' can be traced to Nahorite Buz elements on the Bug river flowing by L'viv. The point here is that Leicester was named after its Legro river, now suspect for my first time with "Leger" = Loire.
Therein ends my insert during the proof read, a very good introduction for what's yet to be said.
I have some additional points to make in that regard (Mitanni trace to the Cottius family) which begins with a look at Massa-Carrara. The idea was that the Massena Numidians settled in Massa at the war of Trebia, and in fact they can be traced back through Messina of Sicily to Methoni of Greece, a Mitanni-suspect area. When you begin to see too many coincidences, know that they are not.
For this discussion, the ancient Pelops entity at Pisa is regarded as the backdrop. Pelops is to be regarded as a disgusting Pisidian peoples from a branch of 600 Jabesh-related Benjamites in relationship with the Pisa Amazons under mythical OENomaus. One can trace this entity to mythical OENeus, father of the real location of Methoni, not far south of Pisa. There are a multitude of points to be made concerning other entities in this area of Greece, but I will try to restrict things to the Methoni line of Oeneus, which went to the Oeneus river, for one, home of the Jabesh-based Japodes...and Maezaei. One needs to train the brain on alliances implied by neighboring peoples, and check for hints of the alliances in heraldry as the peoples moved into the far west. The hints show up everywhere.
Methoni was in the Grecian area of Messene, said by Wikipedia to have named Messina of Sicily. Thus, trace the Benjamin-Jabesh line from Methoni to Messina, and from there go to king Massena and his Massi-like Numidians, then up to Massa (at Carrara), about 25 miles from Italian Pisa. When one starts to click the links from Wikipedia's Massa article, some interesting things show up. For example, as per a nearby Luna location, an ancient name of a Roman fort, we read, "The [Luna] village is served by the National Highway 1 'Aurelia'..." Julius Caesar married Aurelia Cotta.
Of further interest is that Spanish Luna's use a large white crescent, as do the Maccabee-related Morte's/Motts, but see also the Caiaphas-suspect Chapmans. Spanish Luna's were first found in Aragon, which may per chance trace to "Erigon," a river of a Cavii theater that was otherwise the Mathis, very important in this discussion because the namers of the Mathis can be traced without doubt to a merger with the namers of Massa. Near the end of the last update, the Mathis was suspect with Methoni elements to the Cottius family, but in this update the Mathis will go to the Massi-Mathis surname (known to be from Massa), what I have regarded as the proto-Alans (i.e. the Scottish Stewart Coat is from the Massi/Mattis Coat). Thus, "Luna" may have been an Alan entity to Luneburg, for I trace very early Alans to Luneburg [I had no idea here how correct this initial thought was].
Note that Italian Luna's use the Massi/Mattis [and Bus] eagle, for the Massi surname, unlike all the other Mattis-like variations, is purely for the Massa location, which is to say a Massa merger with Mattis elements at Massa. I did not understand the Mattis-like variations until the Cavii trace to Ceva. From here, one can look for relevance in Matthew surnames. The Luna entity, if it's not named after an Alan term, may go back to the mythical moon goddess at Latmus, for her lover, Endymion, was of a household of Elis, at Grecian Pisa.
The three white-on-red crescents of the Italian Luna's are now linkable to the same in the Chief of French Masseys/Masse's. [That means that the rare Bus cross could be the Savoy flag, for Masseys'/Masse's were first found in Savoy.] We get it. But the French Masseys showed exactly the boots of Trips, first found in Hamburg, smack at Luneburg. We are learning something new, I don't need more evidence: the Massey-related namers of Luna went to Luneburg, and are suspect with Trypillians.
I had claimed that the Alans of Langhe (Piedmont) went with proto-Visconti's to Luneburg (and Brunswick), and while Visconti's ruled at Milan, it just so happens that the Italian Luna's were first found in Milan.
Near Luneburg, there is a Schwerin location, and the Schwerin surname happens to use a Shield split horizontally in colors-reversed from the horizontally-split Luna Coat. Now we know that these things are not coincidences.
Of further interest is that I traced this Luna-Visconti line to Vis-de-Loop (corrupts to "Fidelow"), named by the Fiddle's/Fidelows, who smack of the Fitte's / Fitch's suspect with Macclesfield-related Face's/Fessys; the latter use a cross just like the cross of Savoy, and Savoy is the location of Modane, and where Masseys/Masse's were first found. This is mentioned because the Schwerins were first found in MACCLES-like MECKLenburg. Then, Fiddle's/Fidelows were first found in the same place (Surrey) as Schwerin-suspect Shere's (shares a gold Shield with Surreys) using the black-on-gold fitchee crosses of Schere's/Scherfs. This topic traces to Kilpatricks/Shera's, a family which happens to use a "make sure" motto phrase. We can trace the "sure" term to Sure's/Shore's of MICKLeover. It just so happens that Sure's/Shore's share the holly symbol with Maxwells/MAKESwells
[The "plowSHARE" in the Cotis/Curtis Crest gets the Share variation of Shere's.]
Makeswells (share a black-on-white saltire with Kilpatricks) are suspect with Macclesfield elements, you see. And Mecklenburg / Hamburg is near Holstein, where a disheveled goddess, Holle, originates, she being, surely, in the Maxwell / Sure holly symbol. The Elis surname (in Shere / Varn colors) uses a woman with "hair disheveled", and this surname can trace to Elis of Grecian Pisa, but why not also to Italian Pisa? If Elis' do not link squarely with the Mitanni line from Methoni, they should at least be of the Benjamin line, as one can glean by comparing the Elis Coat to the Benjamin Coat.
The Sure/Shore motto is used by Caens, the latter sharing the fretty lattice with Cotts...and Modens/Modleys, suspect with Mott-Luna liners to "Modane."
Elis' (their Coat seems to have gone to English Thomas') share white crescents with Spanish Luna's and Masseys/Masse's, and then the Elis' (in Meschin colors) were first found in Yorkshire, home of Meschins of Skipton. It is of great value to find a Benjamin trace to Elis of Pisa, with Maezaei-suspect Massey liners included. But this Skipton discussion can even go back to general Scipio in the war of Trebia, especially as Pisa is not very far from the Trebia.
The Skipton-related Shiptons share an EEL in Crest with an Irish Foy surname using the same large white crescent as Chapmans / Motts and Spanish Luna's. "Mott" is suspect with "Modon," the alternative name of "Methoni," and as that line traces to the Mathis = Erigon, in perfect harmony with Luna's of Aragon, it is notable that the Arms of Aragon (gold bars, suspect with the Caepio gold bars as per the Cavii at the Erigon) are used in the Arms of Roussillon while Russells share the white Meschin scallops tracing to Scylla at Messina. See also the Jefferson-suspect Ali's of Messina using a griffin suspect with the Griffin family of Pomerania, the Varni / Mecklenburg theater.
The Foix location at Roussillon named the Foix surname, and yet the latter shows also as "Foy." One interesting "Foyer" variation of Foys/Foix's could suggest the Voir's/Voyers ("Vis" motto term can trace them to the Luneburg > Fidelow line), and therefore the implication could be BOIORix (for new readers, he's the Cimbrian leader who warred against Quintus Caepio, apparently for the ownership of the 50,000 gold bars). As Chappes' are suspect with "Caepio," it's important that Chappes' were first found in the same place as one branch of Foys/Foix's. In this picture, one can trace the Caepio / Boiorix gold to Foix (near Toulouse, where Caepio found it). It just so happens that while the Voir's/Voyers use the double-lion format of Strange's (and Brunswick), the latter's lion is used by Toulouse-suspect Tools...though the latter are also suspect with "Dol," near the Voirs/Voyers of Gripel.
The Cimbrians lived at Juteland, the Holstein theater. The Varni of that theater, using scallops on a GOLD Shield as per the Varns, are highly suspect with the Boiorix gold. In fact, the Gripel location of the Voirs/Voyers (use the Maschi lion) could link to the Gripps using a bend in the colors of the Varn bend. There was a Julia Maesa (mother of a Roman emperor of the El-Gabal cult) whose father had a brother, Julius Agrippa. I think that line applies to Gripel, especially as Mus elements trace to nearby Vannes.
Why does the Vannes surname bring up the Washington bars? It's the Ness surname that at times shows a Nest variation which I trace to mythical Nestor at Pylos, beside Methoni. The pelican-on-nest seems to be code for this Pylos-Nestor line, a symbol shared by Stewarts and German Langs, first found at Luneburg.
One of the things that I had a problem with, as per my own theories in a trace of the Israeli priests to Forum Allieni (proto-Ferrara) in about 70 AD, was their trace way up north to the Varni (they were there by 95 AD), the ones suspect with Vere's as namers of Ferrara. The problem was, I thought that Pharisees should have named Ferrara. It seemed like a stretch to trace Pharisees in proto-Ferrara to the founding of the naming of the Varni, and yet I still maintained a Pharisee trace to the Varni, one way or another, and considered Pharisees to be from the Parisii namers of Paris, where Levi's, Chappes, and Lys'/Lisse's were first found. I say that the "Perimus" motto term of Cotta-related Caens goes to mythical Priam, father of Paris. Paris' brother, Hector, goes to Hectors in Angus, and therefore possibly back to Angusta, where Cottius liners have traced. That's to say that Trojans were at Angusta, also named Augusta, and it just so happens that the mythical trace of Romans to Trojans by Virgil was under the supervision / winking / direction of Caesar Augustus.
Therefore, the Cottius family can apply to the Varni line, and here's the point: SWEDISH Gusts (Varni-suspect Varangians lived in Sweden), linked rock-hard to the Cottius family in the last update, can be suspect, from their write-up, to have been from Jutes. But the "Gaut" term in the Gust write-up gets the Cotts, and this can suggest that the Cottius family founded the Jutes. If that's correct, the Goths may have been named by Cottius liners too, and so see that the Goth surname shares the Zionist star of Vlads, whom I looked up as per the "wlad" motto term of English Josephs. This same star can be traced by it's use in the Hagar Coat to the Agarus river, where the Angusta location sat.
If Cottius named the Jutes and Goths, then it is possible that Caiaphas / Pharisee liners were in the Varni neck of Europe at an early time. The only question is, how early? Early enough to name the Varni from Ferrara elements? Again, the early Alans of Forum Allieni were traced at an unknown time to Luneburg at Hamburg, in the Varni neck of Europe, before I had this Cottius-Goth or Cottius-Jute evidence. This is important to me, therefore, because no regular reader was apt to believe my trace of Israeli priests to the Varni. Admit it, I know it.
The Jutes appear in the Varni theater about 300 AD, but could therefore have formed in about, or even before, 70 AD. The motive for a quick trace of the Cottius family to the Jutes would involve the gold bars of Boiorix, for Cottius was related to Quintus Caepio, in my opinion. If the Jutes were formed before 70 AD (Cottius was of the century earlier), then the priest liners fleeing Israel at that time may have gone to the Cottius household, where they originated, for refuge, and by that act ended up with Jutes / Goths.
Late in the last update, a Jabesh-suspect line from Juba (Massena descendant) was traced to the Cottius family. It involved red-on-white surnames, the colors of the Cott/Gaut lattice. I now find a red-on-white Jutt/Judd surname said to be from "Jerd / Jordan," important because Jabesh-Gilead was on the Jordan river (Israel). If Jutts/Judds were Jutes proper, I would not derive the surname in "Jordan," but would view it as a Jutt-Jordan merger...which then traces the Jabesh-Benjamites to Jutes. The Jutt/Judd Crest is a wyVERN dragon (red) suspect with "Varni." The Varni goddess was worshiped by the Eudoses, which some say were the proto-Jutes; the latter otherwise called "Eotens."
One could trace this picture to the Thracian Edones who had a Sithones tribe very traceable to Scandinavian Sitones (Sweden). The Sitna river of Moldova was not far from downtown Thrace, and Thrace had a goddess, Cotys, that easily traces to the Moldova Cotesii. But if Jute's were named "Edone," can we also see them as named after "Cottius"? Perhaps the Cottius family should be restricted to the formation of Goths, kin of Jutes from way back.
[Insert - For those coming here after reading yesterday's portion above, I'd like to say that I made a mistake in saying that Chapets use the Blade/Blate Shield. It's the Chapmans that do. What's written below these square brackets was written before the above. As I'm about to go into the Jordan surname below, let me re-quote from above to show an amazing "coincidence:The "FARMer" in the Cotis/Curtis crest may be of the Vrm > Worm bloodline, for Worms of Germany is known to be at the roots of the Robertians, the immediate ancestors of the Capetian royals. Therefore, the Cottius line is tracing to Angusta, not surprising because the Cotesii scythians were in the Angusta theater.
The Irish Farmer Coat (red-on-white fesse and three red symbols) is suspect as a version of the French Jordan Coat (red-on-white fesse and three red symbols) below because Irish Farmers share a black-on-white fesse with Irish Jordans. The Irish Farmer Coat is a version of the English Farmer/Fermare Coat (same place as Quints) showing the red stag heads of Colts/Cults that have a "Coutts/Coot" branch. That's not a coincidence meaning the Colts/Cults were either a branch of, or a merger with, the Cottius line of Cotis/Curtis), and it's the Colts/Cults showing a pheon in colors reversed from the Pilate pheon. The Cottius line was at mount Pilat, wasn't it?
Later, the when investigating the surnames from the Olt = Aluta river, the Holders and Colters came to mind that naturally bring the Colts/Cults to mind. This can mean that the Cotesii were on the Aluta. If correct, "FARM/FERM can indeed go to "VRM." But "Fermer" can also go to "Firminy" at Saint Etienne / Mount Pilat, which would easily explain the Pilate pheon in colors reversed. Therefore, it appears that Colts/Cults trace specifically to Pilate lines at the mount-Pilate theater. To cap off this "coincidence," the Firmin Coat (same red stags as Farmers and Colts/Cults) is a virtual copy of the Iris Farmer/Fermare Coat! The Cottius line was at mount Pilat, wasn't it? End Insert]
French Jordans (Caesar roses?) were first found in Brittany, for which reason they can be using the red Alan fesse (the Jordan fesse is colors reversed to the Jutt/Judd fesse). But the "Danot/Denot" variation of these Jordans could go to "Donnus," father of Cottius. In fact, I traced Donnus to the red-on-white dancetty fesse of Cheetle's, and these are the colors of the Jordan/Denot fesse! This now makes the Donnus term suspect with a Donato family, and English Donots/Donnats happen to use the split Shield of Schwerins / Luna's [I didn't know while writing here that, later below, I would look up the Donato's and find them linkable to Visconti's, the ones whom I see in the line to Luneburg.]
There are only three re-occurring topics from Brittany elements that I know of, the Vannes, the Alans and the Raines'. Not all Alans were in Dol. The "Judicium" motto term of Raines' is what allows one to identify the surname with "Rennes," where a JUDicael character ruled. The Raines' were first found in the same Vilaine area of Brittany as Dol. To the near-west of Dol there is a JUGon location, and the Juggs happen to be registered with the Jutts/Judds. What a coincidence. But then we can't trace "Jutt" to Jutes if it traces so well to Judicael, unless he was named after Jute elements. The Luneburg line of Alan. Visconti's that I envision were, according to my claims, from Montferrat / Langhe, and the Raines trace to Rainier of Montferrat. This means that he was a Rennes element somehow. It was his granddaughter who married Guido Guerra, and then the Guerra's happen to share a wyVERN dragon with Juggs/Jutts/Judds.
It is amazing that Wikipedia does not show the Arms of Vannes in its Vannes county or Count of Vannes articles. What is there to hide? The fact that heraldic ermines are from Vannes? At this page, Wikipedia shows the Arms of Vannes ("A me vie" motto) with an ermine animal, but does not show the Arms of Vannes with three only three, large ermine spots. Ermine spots are splattered throughout heraldry as indication of Vannes / Brittany liners, but I don't think we are to know because Alans of Dol (and their kin) have the monopoly on Brittany elements. There are two white greyhounds beside the Arms-of-Vannes Shield, the color of the Donut Crest (ermine Shield) greyhound. What a coincidence. It looks like Vannes' counts trace to Donnus.
Just compare the Donut Coat to the flag of Brittany, and ask why the flag looks like the American flag? Doesn't it recall that Wessels are ancestral to Washingtons? As I trace the Vilaine area of Dol to the Traby-Astika family of Vilnius, I would suggest that the flag of Brittany is using the three black-on-white bars of the Arms of Trebizond Empire. I suggest that Vilainsare using the Chester / Tanner Coat. Later in this update, it occurs to me that Hastors/Hesters named Cheshire, and if correct, the ASTika's of Vilnius can apply. The Haster swans can then go to the Italian-Alba swan in that Alba is on the Tanaro. Or, as Tanners put forth the Moline's, Chives from Ceva (Tanaro river) can apply as per using the black moline of the Moline Coat. Alba is in/beside Langhe.
I've traced both the Alans of Dol and the greyHOUND to Huns (before knowing that Vannes used greyhounds). Look at the ermined lozenges in the Hound/Houn Coat, for they are in the positioning of the three large ermines in the Arms of Vannes. Hounds/Houns were first found in the same place (Cambridgeshire) as Julians, Capone's and Chapmans...and Cottius-suspect Cuts/Cuttes'. What's going on?
The Boiorix-suspect Voirs/Voyers were first found in Gripel and PENhoet (at the Vannes area), and the Cuts/Cuttes' use the "plate's" (same colors) of the Penns. PLUS, look again at this alternative Chapman Coat using, not only white boar heads (the Jugg/Jutt/Judd symbol), but the saltire of Plate- and -Pilate suspect Blade's/Blate's now tracing to a Caiaphas line at Mount Pilat. Yet, "Blade" smacks of Bleda, Attila's brother. It's a mystery.
Aha! The white boar head was found in the Rance/Rand Crest when finding a Rance river (Vilaine-river tributary) flowing between Dol and Jugon, and it's the Juggs/Jutts that use the white boar. Therefore, the red lion of English Stewarts must be the Rance/Rand lion...the latter in the colors of the Ley/Legh/Ligh lion, perhaps important as per the "leges" motto term of Raines.' That can explain why Irish Judge's/Juge's/Jude's use the Raines colors and format (with what should prove to be the Meschin scallops).
English Judge's/Judds are using what should be a version of the Fitch Coat...and what could be the Forez Shield ("Traby-suspect "Travers" motto term), itself a version of the Herod Coat, the latter sharing a "hawk's lure with the Cheshire surname, important here because Fitch elements were heavily in Cheshire, in the neighborhood of ASTbury, while Astburys could be using the Jugg/Jutt Shield. We now have the Astburys and Hastors to choose from for identification with Astika's. As Astika's had been suspect with the white lions of Stocks/Stoke's ("FORTis" motto term) and Stake's, see the two white lions (colors of both Raines lions, Coat and Crest) in the Forez Crest, for Stocks/Stoke's (another white Crest) use a two-tailed white lion (suspect with MontFORTs / Monforte at Montferrat). Stocks are said to be from the Caen area, but Caens trace to rulers in the Cottian Alps, one side of which has the Montferrat theater.
Aha! The Travers/Traviss' use another white lion in Crest, as well as that white boar head, and this traces the Brittany topic to Forez and to the Cottius family, does it not? The Travers Coat is clearly a version of the Judge/Jude Coat, but as both use the Raines colors and format, the "JUDicium" motto term of Raines is now understood as code for Jugon / Jutt/Jude / Judge/Juge/Jude elements.
The Arms of Vannes I saw was identical (unless the ermines pointed down) to the Coat of Ballets, first found in Brittany. Place your bets in gold bars as to whether this is a branch of Billets. Of Moldova-interest here is that English Billets are showing the Bellow Coat while Carpenters use the Belli motto. The cinquefoils in the Bellow and Billet Chief are in the colors of the same of French Bacons, honored by a beacon used by the Italian Belli's [use the Carpenter bars suspect with those of Julians and the Aluta-based ELTons], wherefore, Belli's, Bellows and mount-Pilat-suspect Billets (all three identical stock, apparently) trace to Bacau in Moldova's Carpathians, as well as to general Scipio because Bellows are honored in the "bellow" symbol of Shiptons. This is important where Moldova was found to house the Heneti, founders of the Veneti, one branch of which named Vannes...where the Ballets obviously trace. The Moldova wolf symbol may be in the black wolf of the Bellow Crest, important because Neuri-suspect Norrys use a black wolf.
[Repeat: the Bacon cinquefoils (in the colors of the Bellow and Billet cinquefoils) trace to Buz-suspect Bus' and to the cinquefoil in the Arms of Leicester, where the namers of Leger = Loire are suspect.]
As the Ballets are also "Ball," the English Balls must apply because their "FULcrum" motto term suggests the beacon-using Fullers ("FERMiora" motto term can now go to Firminy!). You might say that Rockefellers (Carpathian-Roxolani suspects) link to the mount-Pilat circles too, as expected.
The two-headed eagle of German Bellows supports a trace to Scipio, and it's in the design of the Maxwell / Speck/Spock / CHEP/Jabach eagle, but as this Bellow surname was first found in Pomerania (beside Mecklenburg), I would trace its eagle most-directly to Roxolani-related Maxwells. Always keep in mind that Alans of Brittany are suspect from Roxolani-branch Alans Huns, especially the Huns that joined Attila in his European rampage, not what royal Stewarts would like the world to know.
The Riders/Rythers use three ermine spots, and they must therefore trace to Count RIDORedh of Vannes, son of Alan I, king of Brittany. The ermined Rathers/Rothers/Ruths (Moray, in the colors of Jewish Pollocks) are also RANDolph, suggesting Rider/Ryther links to the Rance/Rand surname. (To help prove that Randolphs are from "Ranulph" le Meschin, note the red upright lion of Rance's/Rands, for Wikipedia shows Ranulph's lion as an upright red one too.) For me, this suggests that Rothes castle, supervised by Peter Pollock at Moray, traces to the Alan > Rider bloodline around the Rance river, potentially explaining why Pollocks were in alliance with Alans of Dol. Peters share the raven with German Rathers/Rothes. The pair of lions in the raven-using Peter Coat suggests Brunswick's double lions because Rothschilds/Rothsteins were first found in Brunswick, and because the Peter raven is on a bend in the colors of the Bruno bend (and the German-Peter bend).
The Braun/Brown chevron is in the same colors, and the Braun/Brown motto looks like it should go to Florence, where Bruno's were first found. If Peters do not link directly to Bruno's, then perhaps through the Scott bend. German Brauns were first found in the same place as Brunswick/Braunschweig, and yet the write-up doesn't have the bones to link the surname to that city.
AHA! Another white boar head in the Irish Marone Coat and Crest, looked up because the term is Italian for "brown." The Marone Coat looks like a version of the Braun/Brown Coat above. It's properly the Moroney/Mulroney surname. It recalls a Morman character (9th century) in Brittany, for the Mormons trace to a mythical Moroni. It looks like Mormons are from Brunswick and royal-Brittany elements. But as I trace Rothschilds to Peter Pollock at Rothes castle, see the bunched arrows, the Rothschild symbol, in the Morman Crest? Mormons are highly suspect from Lemnites, especially Sintians of Lemnos.
Aha! As I trace Sintians to Santones (namers of Saintes) and therefore to Sanders and Sands, see that the Morman Coat is in Sand colors while the Sand fesse is of the type (called "raguly / ragullee") used by white-boar Juggs/Jutts/Judds! Sanders show a white bull head for merging with a bull-using surname, and the Sander Crest strongly suggests the Claro's/Charo's, a branch of Sinclairs/SAINTS! That proves that "Latter Day Saints," what the Mormons came to call themselves, is code. Nothing but garbage. The English-Stewart bend is said to be ragulee. It figures. The Regal surname brings up the Reagans, with an ermined chevron. The Raines' are said to be from "Ragin."
Aha! Reiners/Rainers use a "comet," while Comets/Come's (look like a branch of Comyns) were first found in Limousin, founded by Lemovices (beside Santones). The Mormons use a Lemnos-like people (Lamanites, I think is the spelling) as their faked Jewish ancestors. Spit! Joseph Smith was a fraud. The Reiner and Pisa lions are the only two I know of that are split in blue and white.
PascWETEN" smacks of the Germanic Wettins said by some to be proto-Windsors. The Wettins use the Arms of Saxony, which can easily explain Fulbert "the Saxon" (progenitor of Pollocks). The Spear surname of Rennes-suspect Renfrew traces definitely to the Pace/PASCel surname at Bologna, where the granddaughter of Rainer of Montferrat traces. Nicholas de Vere von Drakenberg claimed that Vere's were related to a "RAINFROU" character (could have been a mythical code) much like "Renfrew. His Melusine is suspect with Holle, and so the latter can go quite well to Judicael ap HOEL of Domnonee, of Brittany.
As the German Hoel/Holtz surname (in Holder-dancette colors) shares a gold-on-blue crescent with Riders, it appears that Mr. Hoel was a Holtz liner, suspect with the Olt river. Recalling that Juggs/Jutts/Judds are traceable to "Judicael," and Jugon beside Dol, it's interesting that while Jutes lived in the HOLstein theater (includes Mecklenburg), we are now finding a Hol-like surname in the Brittany circle of rulers. Could Hoel be the Holle-goddess bloodline using holly, as Mecklenburg-suspect Maxwells do? Can this explain why Pollocks are a sept of Maxwells? Does Holle trace to some point in the to the Aluta, where the Artutela location is suspect as the line to king Arthur, husband of Vannes, so to speak?
Mr. Hoel's first name is in code in the motto of Raines', first found in the same place (Essex) as English Vere's/Vairs. That motto includes, "Parium," much like a motto term of Cott-related Caens. But, remember, it was Nicholas de Vere who traced Vere's to the Mitanni, now tracing to Cottius, and the Mitanni-suspect Modens are also related to Caens. (Reminder: the Vannes surname is listed with the Nest bloodline trace-able to Nestor beside Methoni/Modon). Quints, also first found in Essex, use "vair fur," and the only other heraldic fur is ermine.
To explain why English Stewarts (stag, Attila-Hun symbol) were first found in Devon, founded by the Dumnonii:
Domnonee (Breton: Domnonea) is the modern French version of the Latin name Dumnonia (or Domnonia), which denoted a kingdom in northern Brittany founded by migrants from Dumnonia (Devon) in Great Britain. The Latin form Domnonia can refer to either the British or the Breton kingdom [which I trace to the Prut river in Moldova, suspect with "Aprutium," or Aphrodite, the Heneti goddess on the Pretani-like Parthenius river in Phrygia].
In the Armorican peninsula (Brittany), the kingdom was said to have been founded in the declining phase of the Roman empire [5th century, Arthurian period]. It included Tregor [the Trick/Trigg surname?], Dol-de-Bretagne through to Goelo and Penthievre. Its leaders were referred to as Princes, but later obtained the title King of the Bretons.
I discussed Penthievre where there is an Audeville location that traced to Renfrew elements (because, for one, the Arms of Penthievre shares the thistle with Renfrew's Paisleys...who are kin of Renfrew's Spears (Guido-Guerra liners) and likely also of Pollocks that are known to trace to Alans of Dol). Wikipedia's article on Penthievre does not appear to have the courtesy to locate the place for the reader. All is so secretive, is it not? The Aude's are honored in the Pollock motto, and Aude's are said to be from an Audeville location in Savoy, very geographically-linkable to the Cottius family.
A related Wikipedia article: "After a period of emigration in the 5th and 6th centuries from southwestern Britain to northern Armorica, a sister kingdom called Domnonee was established on the continental north Atlantic coast in what became known as Brittany." [It begs the question of whether the Dumnonii (proto-MacDonalds, share the Ferte kin) had been in Moldova's Prut-river area. But as Moldova elements are tracing to mount Pilat, what about Puy de DOME??? Is that an origin / settlement of the Dumnonii?]
The "leges" motto term of the Raines' (in Sale colors) is suspect with Ligurians at some point, for I trace Drake's to the Salyes-Ligure theater. The Raines' Coat can be deemed a version of the Pendragon / Vaughn Coat that I say shares the Sale fleur, and Pendragons can thus trace to Penhoet...at Vannes, explaining why king Arthur's wife, GuineVERE, was pegged (by me) as code for Gwened = Vannes elements. The "terrae" motto term of Raines' makes them suspect with the Alexander Coat. As there is a Russian Alexander surname, the red griffin in the Hoel/Holtz Crest may be of the Russian Romanov Coat.
I traced the Alexander crescent to that of Morte's/MOTTs, now suspect with the Luna line. I identified Morte's/Motts as Maccabee liners from the known Jonathan-Maccabee merger with Alexander Balus (Seleucid king). I wonder whether the Balus bloodline furnished the Bellows, Ballets/Balls and Billets. The Morte's/Motts are in the colors of the Judge/Juge/Jude topic, expected where Jugon is in COTES-du-Nord, where Morte's/Motts were first found. See the ermine spots in the Balas Coat.
So, why are the Juggs/Jutts/Judds said to be from "Jordan"? Isn't that code for Benjamites? As Jugon is not far from the sources of the Vilaine, it's notable that Vilains were first found in the same place as Benjamins. Benjamins are always suspect close to Meschin liners, and so note the Eatons, first found in Cheshire, and using the white-on-black color scheme so prevalent in this part of the discussion. Are Eatons a branch of Eotens = Jute's? I don't recall the spelling of the capital-Y version of "Eoten," but it smacks of the Yate's/YETT surname, also using white-on-black.
The Yeats variation smacks of the Nordic Geats, suspect as Getae Thracians, in my opinion, not necessarily Goths. There is debate in historian circles as to whether Geats were Goths, and the writer of the Geats article at Wikipedia takes the affirmative position. But look at this:
Thus, Geatas is the Old English form of Old Norse Gautar and modern Swedish Götar. This correspondence seems to tip the balance for most scholars [toward Geats = Goths]. It is also based on the fact that in Beowulf, the Geatas live east of the Daci (across the sea) and in close contact with the Sweon [Sviones, I assume, beside the Seaton-suspect Sitones], which fits the historical position of the Geats between the Danes/Daci and the Swedes...
The Geats and the Jutes are mentioned in Beowulf as different tribes, and whereas the Geats are called geatas, the Jutes are called etotena (genitive) or eotenum (dative). Moreover, the Old English poem Widsith also mentions both Geats and Jutes, and it calls the latter YTUM [caps mine]. However, Fahlbeck proposed in 1884 that the Geatas of Beowulf referred to Jutes and he proposed that the Jutes originally also were Geats like those of southern Sweden. This theory was based on an Old English translation of Venerable Bede's Ecclesiastical History of the English People attributed to Alfred the Great where the Jutes (iutarum, iutis) once are rendered as geata (genitive) and twice as geatum (dative) (see e.g. the OED which identifies the Geats through Eotas, Iotas, Iutan and Geátas). Fahlbeck did not, however, propose an etymology for how the two ethnonyms could be related
The writer uses a quote involving the Daci as evidence for a Geat = Goth position, and then shows desperation for the theory by equating Daci with Danes. That can't be correct. He/she wholly leaves the reader in the dark concerning the historical fact that Daci are from the Getae Thracians. Therefore, it looks like there was a Getae > Geats > Jutes line of peoples, and Goths may not apply as identical stock as they may be from Cottius...though he may have been from the Getae to begin with. It's the Seatons/Sittens that use a YET motto term, which is why we can equate Sitones with Seatons. The Jutes were called YTum (Yt is the root). Later, I find a Pons Yetus on the Aluta.
Time to look at the Irish Jordans, also SHURton, thus very traceable to the Luna entity (that traced to Schwerin and therefore suspect with Shere's / Sure's/Shore's, ext. Luna's were suspect with the Jabesh-Benjamites where Luna's merged with Masseys. Sherwoods share roses on stems with Schere's. The idea is that Jordans were originally Shur(t) liners that took a Jordan surname fancifully for some reason. As "JORD reflects "SHURT(on), the Shorts and "Curts" were looked at...to find Curts (suspect with Curtis'/Cotis') first found in the same place as Benjamins. That explains it well enough. The Shurdons look like Benjamite Curts, shown also as "Court" (perhaps play on the Judge's/Juge's/Jude's because Juggs/Jutts are said to be from "Jordan / Jurd") and "Covert." It looks like Shurdons/Jordans trace as Cottian liners to Jugon, for one, near the Rance river, which can explain why the Rance lion and the Curt/Court eagle both wear chevrons. The black eagle of Curts/Courts makes Benjamin>Roman sense. It just so happens that the other Court surname was first found in Brittany.
Coers were likewise first found in the same place (Norfolk) as Benjamins, but they show properly as "Cocket" and come up as Cocker. In one of the Brittany articles I was reading, I saw a Cocket-like term. It just so happens that Coers/Cockets use a motto term suggesting the Grands/Grants sharing the Benjamin-Crest flames.
French Grants (look like Guerra's) have a "nunquam" motto term, and the Nuns/Noons/None's, likewise first found in Norfolk, tend to explain the Non and NOME variation of Nevins...a topic later in this update that traced hard without argument to "NOMinoe/NEVENoe" of Brittany, himself suspect with the Neamt > Numidian line to Raines' related Newmans. The Nunns/None's are using the Benjamin saltire in colors reversed (could be linked closely to the Shutz saltire).
The Swedish Gust surname is said to be from both "Gaut" and the Nordic Geats (to be taken lightly, but it could be correct), and this tends to trace the Cott/Gaut family (yes, of Cottius) to the Getuli Numidians. That is, the Cottian Alps were named after the stock of Getuli Numidians, a very-acceptable idea (in my mind) because Cottius' family was supposed, in the last update, to be formed from Numidians in the war camp of Hannibal as he passed the Cottians mountains to the Trebia.
To trace the Cotta/Gaut surname to Hannibal's war at Trebia, the Cott-related Caens use the five Traby ostrich feathers.
Actually, the Jutt/Judd wyvern is called a "cockatrice," but that's because the Drakes merged with elements encoded in "cockaTRICE." I looked, but could not re-find, the Cocket-like term in the Brittany articles. The trice term could be code for elements of Tregor in Brittany, and perhaps the Trick/Tregg / Drigg surname. We just saw Cockets linking to the French Grants using bendy in Guerra-bendy colors, and then while the Guerra wyvern traces to the Varni / Eudoses (Eotens = Jutes?) theater, the Druckers (smack of wyvern-using Drake's) were first found in Polesia, the Varni / Eudoses theater.
The upright, green-on-gold Trick / Drigg lion is apparently used in the Sheridan Coat, that latter surname smacking of Jordans/Shurdane's. Just like that, the cockatrice seems to have been deciphered correctly. Sheridans were first found in the same place (Longford/Teffia) as green-Shielded Quinns.
I'll bet my shirt and my shorts that the Gusts were kin of the Scandinavian Sitones, from the Edone tribe of Sithones, near the mouth of the Acton/Axton-suspect Axius/Azius river. The Ash's of the last update share the red Jutt cockatrice, and the Ashburys / Astburys (part of the Ash topic, traced to the Axius) both use a fesse and format in Jutt/Judd-fesse-and-format colors. Then, the gate-using Yate's/Yetts/Yeats are interesting alongside the "HAZard" motto term of Seatons/Sittens. can we see Yates and Gate's as part of the Gaut variation of Cotts?
The last update traced the Catti peoples (in Haddington) of Keaths (Seaton branch) to "Cotta." The Cottius family was tracing to the naming of HADDington in East Lothian, and you can bet that such an important line as this got involved at Edinburgh (Scottish capital), beside East Lothian. "EDIN" smacks of "Eoten," and Edins ("sit" motto term, in Seaton/Sitten / Keath colors) share gold garbs with the Wessels (from "Vestalis," son of Cottius). From this perspective, one can draw a line from Cottius to the Jutes and into both Lothian and Brittany. The common factor between the two latter locations must be the Flemings / Trypillians.
Lets go back in time before Cottius. The Ash topic was being traced to a HAS location on the north side of the Cavii = north side of the Mathis river, very relevant to the Mitanni line to Donnus > Cottius. The Axius river passes through the Stobi location of the Paeoni, but having a source near the source of the Drilon river where Has is located. As I traced "Stobi" to "Staff" and "Stubbs / Stubbings" of Staffordshire, by what coincidence is there a Cotes/Coates surname first found in Staffordshire?
The Cuts use the Penn symbols while the source of the Axius is to the one side of PENEstae (likewise on the Drilon river). The Code's are in relevant colors and symbol. Their raven traces to a Coronis > Cyrene line, the latter being the home of Meshwesh/Mazyes (African Amazons) suspect with the Benjamin-based Maezaei. The GREYhound of Cuts traces to the Graeae Amazons on north-Africa, and the Grey surname is using the Shield of Joplins/JOBlins (Northumberland), suspect with "Jabesh" way back. The Grey / Joplin lions are in the colors of the Gube's/Gobys, and then the Gobe's/Gobels, suspect from Gabuleum (likewise on the Drilon, closer to Has than Penestae) are using the Macey Shield.
Blue-on-white ravens, the colors of the Wessel/GASTELL swans (odd colors for heraldic ravens and swans), are used by the Gettel surname suspect with "Getuli." However, the GETTEL surname is listed with a surname shown with Gart/Gert variation...that can be suspect with the Jurd/Jordan terms in the Jutt/Judd write-up. You understand, I'm tracing the Jabesh-Benjamin merger to north Africa in BC times via Coronis, a Lapith and therefore suspect with Hebrews of the Hyksos kind. The Scandinavian Lapps may even apply, but the point is that these Lapiths (sexual monsters, included the horny Satyrs = Satrae Thracians between the Strymon and Axius, and near the Sithones) got to the Cottian Alps. The Satyrs traced with the Fire surname (half horse, half goat) to a Satyr-like river (can't recall the spelling) flowing from the Cottian Alps into Cuneo.
In the book of Judges, the Benjamites were portrayed as sex fiends who would not condemn a rapist-killer. As the Satyrs liked to chase the all-woman cult of Maenads for sex purposes (just symbolism), let it be added that the 600 Benjamite men married the woman of Jabesh. The Masons have a sex-pot cult called after the Garters. Are these Gert/Gard / Jurd / Jordan / Shurdane / Shirt liners the Benjamite sex pots? Is the rainbow-like peacock in the Shirt/Sherard Crest a faggot symbol? The proud faggots of today, proud of what?
"Gert/Gerd" gets the Gards using the "Toujours" motto term of Youngs, and the latter use a "juene" motto term for their trace to mythical Juno on the Una river, otherwise called the Oeneus...yes, the river of the Japodes and Maezaei (this left side of map). Therefore, it appears that Gerts and Gartsons/Gettels were Jordan-river clans from Jabesh Gilead. I considered a trace of "Gilead" to the transvestite Galli represented by Dionysus, leader also of the Maenads.
Note how the blue eagle's of the Maze surname reflect the blue Wessel swans, and ask whether the Maze lions are brown, for the Masci's share the same fleur with Browns. Do you know where the brown heraldic color traces? Ask the Massey-related Luna's. Their crescent can trace to the Greek moon goddess, an apt reason for the fanciful lunacy symbol of the Maenads. The moon goddess was stationed at Latmus, what may have been part of the proto-Latins, and then the Romans (from Rimmon) had a myth, "Rape of the Sabines," a story concerning the early Romans akin to the Benjamite-Jabesh story...where Romans took Sabine ("Safini" to the Italians) woman as their wives. It begs the question of whether that story in Judges was carried as far as Rome of about 800 BC.
Why was the Sabine surname first found in the same place as Benjamins??? As Sabine's come up as "Savona", who do Savone's/Saffins share white crescents with Luna's? As these people's can be traced to the Sviones, it can explain why the related Seatons/Sittens likewise use crescents.
There is a "Garde" motto term in the Maze Coat. This recalls that Dan Brown, writer of the Da Vinci Code, should link to Lawrence Gardner, another Da-Vinci-code writer. The Gert/Garde griffins are in the colors of the Mazzo/Mazzone/Mazzola griffin (holds a hammer), and in the colors of the Gardner lions. It suggests that the Mazzo's became, or were from, the Maze's of Somerset, where the crescent-using Savone's were first found, and where the Seaton-related Tresure's were first found (the Seaton crescents are surrounded by a double-tressure). The Arms of Masse, at Carrara, uses a mace, and I'll give you one guess as to what peoples "Carrara" traces to. Hint: they were the people amongst whom the Maenads lived.
The Mazzo write-up traces to Mazza's of Modena, very suspect with the makings of MACCAbees at Modi'in of Israel. The Mazzo's share red roses with Italian Masons/Masella's/MASINA's (Piedmont) using the Macey chevron. In the write-up, see "the long line of counts" that includes an ODDONE character, for Ottone's and Masons share a white-on-blue chevron while the Ottone chevron is called "PERCHEvron, code for Macey-related Bellamys of PERCHE (Perche's use chevrons too).
The "aimee" motto term of Maze's could be for the French Amy's/AMOTTE's. Or, English Ameys (Cornwall, where bear-using Ottons/Otes' were first found) using muzzled bears...as used, for example, by Maceys/Mackays. French Benjamins likewise use a bear, but the Amy bear can go to muzzled bear of Percivals (Chief in Amy/Amotte colors), first found in the same place (Somerset) as Maze's. It just so happens that Percivals share a "cruce" motto term with Jabesh-suspect Jeffersons.
The Maze's are hardly ever stressed, but here they can trace PERCivals all the better to Bellamy's at PERCHE, who stretched out to a merger with Ferte-Mace. Therefore, the Maze's are from Ferte-Mace. Compare the Percival Chief (patee crosses) to the Muse Chief, and note that the Percival patees are in the colors of the Massena patees, undeniable evidence that the grail king was from king Massena. But my suspicions are that the Arthurian holy grail was the Caepio treasure, or some large part of it that came into the possession of the Arthurs and kin. Having removed to Brittany from southern England during the Arthurian period, the Brits must have taken the gold and silver with them. The Maze motto is translated, "Protect thy well-loved." They well-loved what?
As the Maze's come up as "Maise" while German Mais' are also "May," see the English May billets, used in colors reversed by the Mose's/Moss'. The May Crest may be the Mosco leopard. The Muzzle surname (used as code by Alis') gets another Mussel surname, first found in the same place (Norfolk) as Benjamins. It tends to prove that French Benjamins are from Benjamites even though the variations don't strike us as Benjamin elements. This Muzzle surname happens to share a red cinquefoil said to be on the wings of the Maze eagle (type "Maze" at this page to verify, and maybe bookmark the page for further investigation).
While I was checking out (years ago) the Magor location of Monmouthshire in seeking the meaning of the "mago" motto term of Josephs (why is it called a MOTTo?), I recall writing that the Benjamites should link to the Pembroke surname...but here I find that the Pembroke bend with gold griffin is that of the Mazzo's (these are Benjamin-saltire colors). I had found a ChepSTOW location beside Magor, and then the Cheps/Jepps/Jabbe's/JABACHs, who traced well to the Jephson variation of Jeffersons, look like a Jabesh line to the two-headed Roman eagle. The eagle in the Chep/Jabach Coat is in the colors of the same of Massi's/Mattis' and Luna's, and in the colors of the Mazzo / Pembroke griffin. It just so happens that Cheps/Jabachs were first found in Lower Saxony, location of Luneburg and Brunswick. Can we imagine a Luna-Jabesh trace to Luneburg?
Greeks would have called "Jabesh" something like "Gabesh," I suppose. The Gabes' happen to use the horse of Masseys, apparently, and the Aude swords in particular because Aude's and Masseys/Masse's were both first found in the same place. The Gabber variation of Gabe's smacks of Gripp variations, possibly in Gripel, where the the Maschi-related Voirs/Voyers lived who are already suspect with the gold bars. The double, gold Voir/Voyer lions are now suspect with the double lions of Brunswick. From the key-using Gabsons/Gibsons (suspect with key-using Chiava's/Sheaves), one has reason to go to the Gibb surname using the Chives cat-a-mountain. Are those the Capes scallops on the English Gibbs Coat? Why do Abbs/Habbs use the Capes scallops? Was there a Jabesh - Caiaphas merger or equation?
The Macey-suspect Gerts/Gards (Kent) use a motto term in honor of Vis-de-Loop's Fiddle's, who share the wolf with Irish Gards/UNIacks. I did not know what "Uniack" traced to until now: the Una river. The Gards/Uniacks are using the wolf design of Youngs (share annulets with Ottone's and Benjamin's), if that helps to make the trace to the Una, but the Gard/Uniack wolf is brown (unofficial heraldic color reserved for certain lines), symbol of the Bruno namers of Brunswick, which place was paired with Luneburg as a political entity. Why? What common think did Brunswick have with Luneburg? Can the gold (oops, brown) Maze lion apply to the gold Brunswick lion? Yes, and Maze's were Luna kin. Just as the Maeonian Maenads where they joined Mysians to form the Lydians, afterwhich they moved to the Ladon river, smack beside Grecian Pisa, where Benjamites must trace.
What if the Greeks just took the capital off of "Jabesh / Yabesh," and called them Pis' > Pisidians? What about mythical Absu / Apsu? What about mythical Abas? Or Ephesus at Latmus? The latter locations were on the one side of the Maeander, and Pisidians on the other. If Gilead at Jabesh traced to "Galli" in the Maeander theater, then note that Hephaestus, suspect in the Ephesus term, was a ruler of the Galli.
It looks like I was correct in tracing the Alan-Visconti line from Brunswick-Luneburg to Vis-de-Loop, and of course "VIS" is suspect with "VISconti" (the latter family started in Milan with Ottone Visconti). I had traced this line from Forum Allieni, and suggested that Formans/Forhams (Edinburgh, where Strange lines are suspect) are from "Forum." This becomes important if correct (low possibility for being correct), for the Forman Crest shares the green dragon design of the Worm Crest, meaning that FORMans are suspect with the Vrm > Worms line out of Angusta and into Firminy. The gate-related Seatons of the Edinburgh theater use a green dragon, and Firmins (also "Vermon") were at GATEforth (Yorkshire).
I do not recall, in the multiple times that I traced Formans to Forum Allieni, telling that the Forman-Chief lion is in the colors of the Brunswick lion. I wasn't familiar with the Brunswick lion at the times. The gold anchors on both side of the Forman lion are used by FIRMens, fancy that. Both surnames use a black-on-white chevrons with three gold symbols on the chevron. The griffin in the Worm bend is used on the Mazzo / Pembroke bend, and the Worm bend is colors reversed from the same of Italian Bruno's.
As the Visconti's trace to the Chappes-related Ottone's, I identify "Perusia," where Ottone's (rare curved chevron as with Gusts) were first found, with "Pharisee." Perusia is in Umbria (Cimbrian entity?), where the Donato surname was first found that is being considered as the root of "Donnus." This suggests a Visconti link to Cott liners, and then English Ottons (share white bore head with Jutts/Judds), first found in the same place as Code's/Codds, are also "Otes/Oates," a term easily modified from "Cotes/Coates." If this is correct, it's a new revelation for me, that Ottone Visconti may have been named as a Cottius liner. As I see Caiaphas born as a near-cousin of Cottius, it can explain why Ottone's share a long, white-on-blue, solid chevron with Chappes!
That can explain why Cuthberts (Alan Shield?) share a blue snake with Visconti's!!! The Cuts/Cuttes (share a white Crest with Ottons/Otes'), first found in the same place as Chapmans, Capone's and Julians, are said to be from "Cuthbert." Finally, the Cotta/Cote surname is also "Cottin/Cotton," what easily forms "Ottone/Odinni." I now know that Cottius liners were in Perusia early in Ottone history, and that tends to clinch a Donnus trace to Donato's of Umbria.
The Stows were likewise first found in the same place as Chapmans/CHEPmans, begging the question of whether ChepSTOW (Monmouthshire) was a Chapman line. We can't trace Cheps/Jabachs to both "Caiaphas" and "Jabesh," or can we? If not, then they may have been a Chappes merger with Jabesh elements. I have claimed that white-on-blue Zionist star in the Chep/Jabach Coat is that of Caiaphas, but it's used by Hagars as well as Vlads/Flattens, the latter suspect in the "wlad" motto term of Josephs. The "mago" motto term of the same Josephs traces tentatively to Mago, brother of Hannibal Barca, but it must then trace Mago elements to Magor, for the neighboring Chepstow location is called Cas-gwent by the Welsh, apparently honored in the "Cas" motto term of the same Josephs. Vlads were first found in Westphalia, beside Lower Saxony i.e. where Cheps/Jabachs were first found.
I'm guessing, but Julius Caesar's mother (Aurelia Cotta) was timed about the time of Donnus' father. The Donuts/Donats/Danetts (share the white Arm-of-Vannes greyhound in Crest with the Cut/Cuttes-Crest!) are said to be from "D'Anet," what was recently suspect with "Annas." The Donuts use a black-ermined Shield suspect with the black-ermined lozenges of Chives-based Shaws/Sheaves.
The D'Anet term was traced to Dents using what I see as a version of the Shaw lozenges on the Cut/Cuttes bend. The Dents and Cuts are using the Sale bend because Cutters use the Shield-and-Chief color combination of the Saluzzo's. Therefore, add Cutters to Cottius liners, at least tentatively, and ask why Dents should trace to Salyes Ligures. The Dents (Sedwick colors) were in Yorkshire's SEDburgh, suspect with Sedwicks, first found in the same place as Dans, Danners, Deins, Diens and similar others (below, the Dennys prove to be Donnus lines). The Deins/Dens are showing crescents in colors reversed from the Luna / Massey crescents, and in the colors of the Anet crescent. If you recall, the Luna topic led to the Sure / Shere topic and so see that Anet Coat looks like a version of the SHERwood Coat. (Anets are listed with ARNotts while Annas' are listed with ARNess').
For the discussion below, let's repeat what was said earlier:Aha! Reiners/Rainers use a "comet," while Comets/Come's (look like a branch of Comyns) were first found in Limousin...The Reiner and Pisa lions are the only two I know of that are split in blue and white.
PascWETEN" smacks of the Germanic Wettins...
Can you think any entity like "Wettin" using the Comyn garbs? Why do Wessels use "WHEAT garbs" in Comyn-garb colors? Now we understand. Pascweten was a Cottius>Vestalis liner, and related to the wheat-using Chappes/Cheaps.
Why are French Danots/Jordans (Brittany) also "DenonCOURT"? Cours/LeCourts, taken from the "COURage" motto term of Comyns, look like they could be using the Touques besants, important because Wessels trace to Gace on the Touques river. It's probably important here that the Saint surname uses only three "CHERUBs" in the colors of the three Comyn GARBs. Why are Comyns/COMMINGS and their Sinclair-honored Conteville kin linking to Saintes, a Caepio-gold-suspect city beside Gironde, downriver from COMMINGes?
Sinclairs/Saints are traced in their write-up to L'Veque. As the L'evesque's/L'Veque's (from a location of that name near the Touques, see Touques write-up) can figure into the Touques / Gace bloodline, see that L'vesques use the Pascal lamb, but also what could be the Best/Bes star if L'VESque's (Basques?) are a branch of Bes'. Pascals are from a Pasci location in Eure.
It should be added that the "work" motto term of Sinclairs gets the Works/Werks using the Washington bars in Sinclair colors, as well as the white lion head of the Raines'. As Rollo had his start in the Eure area, it's notable the the Rollo surname uses a "passe" motto term that gets the English Pascals (could be using the Savoy cross in colors reversed). French Pascals were first found in the Cottian area, where I traced same-colored Bassets, and I linked the Payens both to the Pace/Pascels and the Basset-related Billets (use the Payen stars in Lambert colors) of Maine, beside Eure. It just so happens that while I had traced the Best/Bes/Bez surname (share the Lambert star) to BEZprym, son of Mieszko I, the French Pascals are using a lamb in the colors of French Lamberts (from Mieszko II Lambert) while both were first found in the same place (Dauphine) as Payens. English Lamberts even use the Templar lamb (has NOTHING to do with Passover) in the colors of the same of English Pascals.
In this picture, one might identify Pascals as a branch of Bests/Bes, especially as Baskets (said to be from "Paschalis") are in Lambert (and Bisset and Pisa) colors and share the upright gold lion of Bests/Bes'...suspect with the gold lions of Abreu's' who named Evreux, in Eure. There is a Vernon location in Eure that gets the Comyn / Vessel garbs in the Vernon Coat (looks like it could link to Hazels). The Meis/Misl surname using that gold lion are in code with mythical "SiemoMISL," a Piast liner. As Renfrew elements trace to the Pace/Pascel surname, perhaps Pascels were a Pisa line (for Mieszko's were from a PIASt entity from the MOUSE Tower). The Meis/Misl surname uses a mouse, and can modify to/from "Mieszko."
Could the purple Shield of English Pace's go to the Scipio > Skipton line from Massena liners at Pisa? The Pascels and Pascals can be suspect with PASCweten, brother of Alan I, and I traced the Stewart Coat (i.e. the proto-Alans of Dol) to the Massi/Mattis surname known to have links with Massa. Can't Mieszko's trace to this? It's starting to appear that Pascels were Pisa > Piast liners, very link-able to Benjamites once in Grecian Pisa. The Maisy's are said to be from Brittany.
Both Pascweten and Alan I ruled Vannes. The Pascals use the Jewish Levi/Levine lion (same colors) while the French Levine's were first found in Brittany. Hard to believe, but it appears that Pascweten was from Mieszko liners prior to the birth of Mieszko. That would tend to identify Pascweten with mythical Popiel, the ruler of the Mouse Tower prior to its rule by Piasts. I traced the white-on-blue Lambert / Best/Bes and Bole star to the Moray star, and French Levine's happen to be from Haute Morays. The Bissets were first found beside Moray, and as they use the Botter bend (Lucca elements from the Pisa theater), they are related to the Close/Clovse line of Closeburn, which should explain why Kilpatricks of that place use the Jewish Levi lion in Crest.
The KilPATRick-related PATTERsons were first found where Bissets were first found, and these liners share the pelican with Stewarts and the Langs of Luneburg...so that Luneburg elements are expected in Ross-shire / Moray. As I traced the Alan-to-Luneburg line to VIS-de-Loop, it could identify "Vis" with the proto-Bissets from Pisa. Bissets and Pisa's happen to use Visconti and Ottone colors.
English Levine's (using the white footless martlets of Saddocks, first found in the same place as a host of Dan-like terms now tracing to Donnus) were first found in the same place (Westmorland) as Wessels! There is even a dancette in the Levine Chief. That Cottius-line link to Levi's is of obvious importance to the theory that Caiaphas was a close kin of Donnus. In fact, as Lev's and Chappes' were first found in the same place while Chappes' use the Ottone chevron -- in the colors of the Lambert / Basket chevron -- it appears that the Pascweten link to the Mouse Tower goes back to Cottius' line through Ottone Visconti. Reminder: Donato's, suspect with "Donnus," were first found in the same place as Ottone's.
I think I can explain in short order some of the new revelation wherein Pascweten was the Popiel line. If it fits, then it is indeed a new revelation. The Popleys happen to use the bend colors and format of BESsins and BISTons, suspect with "Piast", and the latter two share the arm-and-sword with German Bessens and Mieske's/Mesechs. Therefore, mythical Popiel was code for the Popley bloodline, and Pisa thus appears to be named after the Bistones peoples, which can further reveals that BISTones were PISIDians.
I had read that the black-and-white checks around the rim of British police officers was a symbol of Stewarts, which made sense as Stewarts use blue-and-white checks. One can now add that the black-and-white checks (in Popley colors) fill the Shield of the Pepoli surname, first found in the same place as Pace's/Pascels. And it just so happens that Popoli's (with an 'o') share the gold-and-red split Shield of Italian Luna's (first found where Ottone Visconti ruled)...which reminded me that German Lamberts use the large Spanish-Luna (and Chapman) crescent!!! ZOWWWWIEEE!!!!
The Luna crescent is upside-down from Chapman crescent probably because the Luna's use their Chief at the bottom of the Shield. That is, the entire Luna Coat is upside-down, and, once turned right-sight up, it's the Shield-and-Chief color combination of crescent-using Lamberts!
That traces Luna near Pisa to the Popiel line at the Mouse Tower (verifying a Piast trace to Pisa), but it also links to the Brittany Alans of the Luna > Luneburg line, especially as English Alans are in Luna / Popoli colors. German Lamberts even show ducks, a symbol showing in the French Alan Coat for years until replaced with footless martlets. The Ottone-suspect Coote's use ducks that they call "coots." Disregard all that the write-ups tell you if they don't agree with this obvious interpretation of the surnames under discussion. All three Lambert surnames trace to Mieszko Lambert, obviously, and the double-white Lambert chevrons go to the same of Sweets and Sewards (the latter use the Mosco leopard).
One can now surmise that Mieszko Lambert was named after Lune elements, which is to say that the Luna line modified to Lam terms. There is yet a question as to whether Luna was named by Alans from Forum Allieni. The Luns/Lunds/Lunts (in Alan / Luna colors) happen to use a lion in the colors and position of the Brunswick lion. The Luns/Lunds seem to be obviously linked to Aesons/Essons and Eastons (suspect from Essone at south Paris, not far from Eure). Eystein, Rollo's grandfather, may have been from this entity.
Shortly above, we saw the Vernons working into this who may be using the Shield of Hazels / Dussels (Dusseldorf elements) that link easily to Siward of HESLington. The Mens motto uses "I zal," what seems like code for the Hazel-related Islips (Hazels use "hazel SLIP" leaves). It just so happens that the Shield-and-Chief color combination of the Mens' is colors reversed from the same of the Lamberts that use the Luna crescent, and, moreover, the Popiel-suspect Pepins and Poppins/Pophams (Mens Shield) use a "Mens" motto term. As Siward had linked to Schutz/Shutz liners, see the Vernon description: "A demi goddess holding three ears of wheat and a scythe." "Ears of wheat" are used by Scottish Chappes', and are part code for the Wessel suspect Wheats/Wete's, suspect from mythical SiemoWIT (Witkowo elements) at the Mouse Tower. In fact, after writing that, the Watts were loaded to take another look at English Watts (whose symbols I had forgotten,), and this is when I realized that these Watts are using the Shield-and-Chief color combination of the Mens'!
Now, consider "PascWETEN" anew with the Witkowo line to Watts in mind. And figure on Popleys and Poppins to link to Poppo I, founder of German Babenbergs from the queen Bebba Bebbanburgs (Siward's ancestry), the latter being where I traced the ancestry of Pepins of LANDon, now suspect with Lunds.
The Lums/Lombs (West DENTon) are in Lambert colors and use the Pascal / Lambert lamb. The red-on-white stars can go likely to the Washington stars because the Lum motto seems to honor the Palmers using the double Washington bars in black (as do Works/Werks and Plac-like Flacks). The Denton/DENETons use double bars in Washington bar colors, but the Dentons use them thinner, somewhat as thin as the Wassa/Gace bars. The Lums/Lombs seem definitely to be Cottius>Wessel liners, tending to link Dents, as expected, to "Donnus." The Lums and Dentons together reveal links to Bellows and Billets.
The billets in the Watts Chief are colors-reversed to those in the Mose Coat, meaning that the Mens' / Watts must be using the Annan(dale) Chief, for Le Mose is in Placentia, where the Ananes Gauls (or were they Ligures?) were first found. The Watt billets are in the colors of the Mays billets, and the mouse-using Misls/Meis' (= the line of Siemomysl, grandson/grandfather of Siemowit) are also "MAYsl." Why is Mieszko-ancestry using gold billets = gold bars? What was under or in the Mouse Tower?
The Plocks, suspect with Plock of Poland (near Masovia), use billet-like squares (in Mose-billet colors) and what could be the Mouse Tower in Crest. I traced Pollocks to the namers of Placentia (this place uses a small white square) along with the Place/Plais surname (Shield split in split-Luna-Shield colors) using what should be the Brunswick / Lund lion. The Spanish Pelaiz' use half the Pollock saltire you see, but they are shown as "Baez," smacking of the Mieszko-related Bes'/Bez' shown also as "Baise." The German Baez' even use the eagle in the Luna Coat.
The Pelaiz surname is suspect with the Bils surname because both use black-and-gold checks filling their Shield. This entity can trace the namers of Placentia to the ancient Bilis river, which was either (I can't recall which) in the land of Paphlagonians (where I trace Babenbergs and Pepins), or of the PAMphylians, where I trace "BAMberg". Paphlagonian Heneti trace easily to Vannes, where Pascweten ruled. As German Blocks use blocks = billets (in Mose-billet colors) as do Plocks (suspect with the Bilis-river line, right?), by what coincidence do English Blocks look like they are using a version of the Scottish Belli (and PAISley) Coat??? If that's the Mouse Tower in the Belli Crest, I would suggest that Belli's are using the Lambert chevron.
This effectively traces Bilis-river elements ("bello" using Bouillons are suspect) to Carpenter-related Belli's, and so let's remind that while Carpenters trace to the Carpae of Moldova, this area was infested with Heneti and Lapiths. One mythical Lapith, PHLEGyas, smacks of Pollock / Plock liners.
As I thought that the hourglass goddess of Trypillians should go to Nerthus, goddess of the Varni, let's look at the so-called "demi-goddess" of the VERNons. "Demi" refers to only half of her showing, but this can be code both for the Halfs/Helps (gold fitchees) who use an hourglass Shield, and of the Demy/DuMays/DuMAIS' said to be from Normandy's LEME location. Could Lamberts and Luna's have been there? Or was it of the Lemnites? Leme traces excellently to the Lem surname listed with McLains/Lane's, for the latter share the rock design, and the tower design of German Mays. Therefore, add McLains/Lane's/Lems and Leme to the list of Luna liners, and ask whether the tower above is secretly the Mouse Tower.
As Murena's/Moratins (suspect with the Massena>Juba line of Mauritanians) use the tower design of Mays and Lems, consider the Myrina location on Lemnos. If I recall correctly, Cilnius Maecenas (first century BC) married the Varro-Murena line.
If we are convinced that Vernons are using Nerthus, why what coincidence was heraldry egging me on to making a Cottius trace to the Jute's and Varni while the demi-goddess holds ears of Wessel-suspect wheat (Wessels use "wheat garbs"). Wheats/Wete's were first found in the same place (Norfolk) as Benjamins. As the latter are suspect in at least a relationship with Pisidians, it's notable that Pamphylia was to the east side of Pisidians. I've just found an old quote of mine that recalls Pamphylians being fundamental to Hercules: "The Bilis river in Pamphylia causes me to recall (from the last update) the Tectamus-branch Pamphylians, linked by ancients to Hyllas, a son of Hercules..." Hmm, the Hills, said to be from "hyle," and found in the same place as billet-using Wete-suspect Watts (the ones who brought me to the Bilis-river topic in the first place) use the tower design discussed above. The Wheat/Wete Crest uses the Poppin-Crest stag design that can trace Wheats, with Poppins, to Paphlagonians, to the north of Pamphylia.
The Watts-et-al are suspect with the Uat cult of the Nile Delta, where Hyksos ruled. There was a Bast goddess there that can go to Best / Besset / Basset elements, and therefore to the naming of Pisa. That is, the Bast cult (she was a lion cult, if I recall correctly, and may therefore trace to lion-depicted Kybele/Cybele of Phrygia) may have named Bistones and Pisidians. The Cabelees (of Cybele) were a tribe of Pisidians, and this reminds me of the fretty lattice of Cable's/Cabells. This is extremely important to verify that Cottius' Cott line traces to mythical Cotys, father of Attis, husband and son of Kybele. Note the erect sword in the Cable/Cabell Crest, old symbol of Ares used by Bistones.
The red fesse across the Cable Coat could be the Danot/Danon/Jordan fesse.
Vernons are said to be from a Shipbrook location while Ships were first found in the same place (Oxfordshire) as Plocks and Bamurgs/Banburys (Pascal cross?). As we just saw billet-related Plocks tracing to the same Bilis>Moldova elements as Belli's, by what coincidence do Ships use "bellows" while Bellows (use the BILLet Coat) show the Shield-and-Chief color combination of the Men's and Poppins...that trace to Paphlagonians with Pepins? German Bellows (Maxwell eagle design), who may be using the German Baez eagle, were first found in Pomerania, the Varni / Nerthus theater.
The Bellows are the ones sharing the cinquefoils of Belli-related Beacons/Bacons now tracing to Bacau on the Siret. As I identify Paphlagonians with Apepi/Apophis, a Hyksos ruler, by what coincidence have I been tracing "Apachnas," another Hyksos ruler, to Bachs and similar terms? Consider that the Pascal-related L'EVEQUE's could be Back / Beck /Bach liners. I even traced Hyksos to Ixion, a Lapith.
Having now reinforced a Cottius link to the Varni theater, let's look at the Dein/Den lion, the gold, round-tailed lion of Gate's, important where Cottius traces from Getuli to Geats and similar lines. As the Luna line proved to be to Luneburg at Hamburg, see that the Geats/Gede's/Geers/Geens (in Hate / Hagar colors) were first found in Hamburg. I think one can make the case that Cottius traces to Geats = Jutes still stronger here, but also to Bill Gates, whose extra-Microsoft activities may be in global-government formation.
As the Trip-branch Trypillians at Hamburg are evidence of a peoples tracing to Moldova, consider that the Gate lions are in the colors of the Neame/Name lions. "Neame" was looked up recently in search of elements from Moldova's Neamt area, but I had nothing to say about the Neame Coat until now. It just so happens that while I was asking whether Numidians trace to that name, the Gate's trace well to Getuli Numidians.
The Geats/Gede's share the white crescents with Luna's but in the colors of the Savone's, first found in the same place as Cottius-related Cable's/Cabells. It was the Savona's/Sabine's that were first found in the same place as Benjamins and Wheats. As I traced the "Dumn"(onii) peoples of SOMerset's founding to "SAMnite," a fellow tribe with Sabines in ancient Italy, it's possible that SiemoWit was of the Samnite-based Semnones (beside the Suebi). The Mai variation of Mays/Mais' can go to mount MAIello (Abruzzo) in the land of Sabines / Samnites, traced by the locals to a goddess, Maja, suspect with Maia, mother or daughter of Atlas (I can't recall which). "Atlas" is the likely naming entity of Italy, from "Attaleia," otherwise known as Antalya of the Pisidians. Plato made Poseidon a father of Atlas, which is what tipped me off to tracing "ATLas" to "ATTALeia."
I've not been able to find what "TANTALus" stands for, but he traced well to "ANTALya" because his son (Pelops) married Pisa. So, this Atlantean line from Pisidian Antalya through Pelops to Pisa was part of the Benjamin entity, and while I'm tracing Luna's to the Greek moon goddess at Latmus, let's add that her lover, Endymion (suspect with Heneti), had ancestry in AETOLus and Elis. We saw already that Elis' are using the Benjamin cross. Calydon, beside Aetolia, was ruled by Atalanta and her husband. We get it, a Khaldi-Heneti merger with Antalya Pisidians thrown in.
I traced Bellamys to Bellerophon and Pegasus in the Pisidian/Lycian region without doubt, and so "Bellero" can trace to "Bilis." English Mai's/Mays (the ones using the billets that trace to Pamphylia) were first found in the same place as the Deins-et-al. There is a good reason for tracing the Mai/May leopard from mythical Maia to Dionysus' leopard symbol to Donnus. Add to this the Donnus trace to Donato's of Umbria, on the north side of Abruzzo. The Dennis, said to trace to "Dionysus," share axes with German Denner's/Dane's, and French Dennis' (Alan Shield?) use nothing but a fesse in colors reversed from the May/Mai fesse.
JUST FOUND: the Denny/DEANneys Crest uses "An arm and hand holding five wheat ears"!!! That's proof-positive that Den liners trace to the Donnus > Wessel line! The many gold patees of Dennys are now looking like crossed gold bars because the Denny saltire is in the colors of the Brison saltire (from MontBRISON at Saint Etienne). Both Coats use thin chevrons.
As the Mens surname likely goes to Dionysus' Maeander elements, I'm noting that Manders use a saltire in colors reversed from the Denny/Deanney saltire. The Brisons are also "Brix," and this speaks of the Brigantians/Briges peoples, another name for Phrygians. The Maeander had a source in Phrygia before flowing to one side of Pisidians and Cabelees. Look at the "Je Garderay" motto phrase of Bridge's, in the colors of the Juggs/Jutts/Judds said to be from "Jurd / Jordan." Is the Bridge Coat a version of the Lambert Coat and with the Mouse Tower in Crest?
Design really does matter in heraldry when it comes to formulating a system for keeping track of mergers. That's why the round-tailed lion (of Deans and Gate's, for example) is in the Massar/Massei Coat, of a surname first found in Lucca, smack beside Massa. You just saw a good reason for tracing Getuli Numidians to Massa. The Italian Botters, likewise first found in Lucca, use a bend in the colors of the Amy/Amotte bend (and in Macey-chevron colors), important because it is the Maze's who use the "Aimee" motto term. In Cheshire, HAMO de Masci ruled a Dunham-Masci location.
While there can be some debate on whether the Mai/May surname with Mais variation is or isn't a Masci / Macey liner, there is no doubt that Maze's are Macey liners from Ferte-Mace. It's a very basic line in the Cottius family. The question is whether Maccabees stem from the ancestry of Cottius going back some 100-150 years from his lifetime. I haven't a clue. Yet, anyway.
Wikipedia says that the Butteri cowboys to the south of Lucca "carries the mazzarella, a stick employed for herding oxen and horses." This might indicate that "Massar" is a surname derived in "mazzarella," explaining with Massars and Botters were first found in the same place, but there could be more to it. The mace is essentially a stick for striking, but this symbol goes back to Maccabees (I don't know how far back Butteri-proper go). I hardly think that Massa, and Masci liners of all types, derive from the Butteri stick, but surprise me. English Botters are now showing an eagle in Ferte-eagle colors. It used to be brown...tracing to Brunswick-Luneburg, right?
Look at the blue border beside the gold Maze bend and ask whether it's actually a blue bend (under the gold bend), because it could be the blue bend of Scotts (brown stag) who use a motto, "Amo." That's the full motto. Compare the Maze motto "Garde ta bien aimee" to the "Garde bien" of Carricks, and suppose that their "bien" term can go to German Biens, first found in the same place (Silesia) as Scot-suspect Sitlers/SCHITners. Why should dancette-using Carricks apply to Scots? Because both Scot Coats use Talbot Coats while Carricks use black talbot dogs (suspect with the black Schutz greyhound).
As Carricks are said to be from Craigs, who look like Hills that seemingly traced well to Hyllas, Pamphylian-related son of Hercules, it's a good gamble to trace Carricks to Carians. Then, because Carricks are in the colors of the Saracen Coat, and moreover because "Carrick" is like "Sarac(en)," by what coincidence is there a Sarzana location beside Carrara? Did Carians put out a Sar-ian branch or two? Looks like.
The "Garde" term brings us right back to the Denoncourt/JORDan / Jutt/Judd entity, and so lets add that the French Biens (could be a version of the Luna Shield) share axes with Danners/Denners and Dennis'. Why are Donnus liners now linking to Sarzana and Carrara? Ask the Dionysus cult at the mouth of the Maeander in Caria. The Gards/Uniacks even show the Shield-and-Chief color combination of the Maeonian-suspect Men's. English Gards are showing the chevron colors of the same of German Biens.
With the Amy/AMOTTE surname tracing to Massa, while neighboring Luna elements use the Mott crescent, we now have a trace of Motts, with a MORTE variation, to the Butteri entity, important because Morte's are encoded in, "Le Morte d'Arthur," a myth that had king Arthur die in Avalon...which I have identified (years ago, and sticking to it) as Bute. That trace's Butteri to the naming of Bute, but as Bute is suspect with the Budini line to Boyds, the Budini must have named the Butteri, explaining why Bidens/Buttons were first found in the same place as Botters. As Budini were Neuri kin, the red Maze / Muzzle cinquefoil must be a colors-reversed version of the Hamelton and Bus cinquefoil. This indicates that the Maze's and Maceys were Neuri liners, expected where the Neuri trace to the Nairi from Mus of Lake Van. The Maze "bien" term could suggesting lines from the ancient Biaini founders of Lake Van. The Butteri lived as far north of Rome as Velch, a city that had a goddess, Turan, like the Tarun area at Mus of Lake Van.
The Taran(t) surname shares red eagles with Ferte's and Botters, and what could be the red Quint chevron (because Tarans were first found in the same place (Dorset) as Quints). In this picture, "Dorset" can trace to mythical Doris (the Daorsi) at Neretva, near Butua. The Dorset surname uses a large crescent like the Luna's / Motts/MORTe's, and was first found in the same place (Wiltshire) as MORTons.
The Cubit/Cobbett blue lion was mentioned in the last update in relation to the same-colored Cert/Card lion that I see at Certa. I now discover that the Cubit lion is used in the Neame Coat. Amazing corroboration of a Numidia trace to Neamt. The Neame's and Cubits were first found in the same place (Lincolnshire). Cubits became a topic in the last update as per a "cubit arm" is the Wessel Crest. This helps to trace the Cottius > Vestalis line to Numidians.
Cobbets smack of a line to the Cottius-related Cope's / Copps / Copelands, where the Jefferson line of Jabesh traced late in the last update (new findings in that discussion). The Cobbs (elephant), in Oliphant colors and therefore suspect with the Luna / Oliphant / Masse(y) crescents, are showing a chevron in the colors of the Gube/Goby chevron, suggesting a Cobb=Gobe equation. Gube's/Gobys -- said to be from "GOPHEYe" in Dorset -- were first found in the same place as Cutters, smack beside the COFFEY-related Coffers/Cofaire's. This is the first time that some evidence of a Gopher link to "Caiaphas" has come in. The Coffeys/Coffers use a "provaDENTia sed" motto phrase (Dents were from SEDbergh).
NOW LOOK. The Motels/Mottola's, suspect with lines from Modane (i.e. with Modens/Modleys sharing the Cotta lattice), were from Mottola in Taranto (Apulia), while the Arms of Taranto uses a naked man on a dolphin, the Coffey/Coffer symbol. Then, Irish McCAFFERys (n Coffey/Coffer colors) use (essentially) the rider on a horse in the Motel Coat!
The white horse of McCafferys may be the one in the Wessel Chief. This reminds me of Hannibal's army in the Apulia theater, at Larinum / Geronum, in 217 BC, after he won the war at Trebia. It could be expected that the ancestry of Cottius had joined Hannibal in that pukish adventure to the south of Italy. TARANto traces to Tarun at the Mus area of Lake Van.
The Hate's (Getuli liners to Gate's?) use the saltire in Gopher-saltire colors, important if Gophers are from Sophonisba, wife of a Carthaginian Hasdrubal. Or, Gophers could be a variation of some Jabesh line. The Hate's share a rock with the English Jordans, while Gate's share the lion colors and position of the English-Jordan Coat. Does this trace Jabesh-Benjamites to Getuli? It's fully expected from Massena lines amongst Getuli.
As per the trace of Pembroke's to Jabesh elements, see that the round-tailed lion of Gate's is used in the same colors by Avons, for Pembroke's were first found in Avon. Did Bamburgh lines name Pembroke's? Are Pembroke's Pamphylian liners in Wales? Ask Hercules, who defeated Geryon in Wales. Hmm, the Geer variation of Geats could apply.
The Hate's (same place as Dents) are also "Hague," traced recently with same-colored Hagars to the Agarus river of ancient Moldova, now the Siret river suspect with "Certa" (Numidian capital), and so let's add that Neamt is along the Siret river! I would suggest that "Hate" is not a Hague / Hagar variation, but is instead evidence of a Getuli (or Getae) merger with the namers of the Agarus. It tends to make a fusion between Getuli proto-Numidians in/near Neamt with Agarus elements. In the last update, elements from Keturah (Abraham's other wife) were re-mentioned in a trace from the Mitanni to Cottius, but then Hagar was Abraham's concubine (and mother of Ishmael). Feasibly, "KETurah" elements named the Getuli...suspect from the Getae Thracians known to have lived in the Moldova theater. The Cotesii were on the Buzau tributary of the Siret, but well down-river from Neamt. I'm not sure whether to equate the Getae with Cotesii, or view them as distinct. If they were distinct, I would view Getuli-liner surnames as not equivalent to Cotta liners, and yet a merger may have taken place in the Cottian Alps due to ancient alliances.
Cutters, suspect with "Keturah," are in the colors of the Caen lattice, and the two surnames were first found in the same place (Dorset), where a branch of Quints were first found.
Luna is about 20 miles from La Spezia, where the fret-using Speccots/Space's may trace. The Specks/Spocks use the two-headed eagle design of Cheps/Jabachs. If the Spezia term traces to "Syphax," a Numidian ruler of the MASAEsyli peoples, it makes good sense amid the Numidian trace to nearby Massa. Is it possible for "Jabesh" to become G/Cabesh-like and finally "Syphax"? Is it possible for "Syphax" to become "Caepio"? "When in 218 BC, war broke out between Carthage and Rome, Syphax was initially sympathetic to the Romans. In 213 BC, he concluded an alliance with the Romans... Could that explain the Roman eagle as used by Specks? SYPHax had married SOPHonisba, suggesting that Sophonisba's father (Hasdrubal, not the brother of Mago and Hannibal) was a line of whatever named Syphax, a softened Caiaphas-like term if ever we saw one.
Why should the two-headed Maxwell eagle, in the design of the Speck / Chep eagle, trace to Syphax elements? Ask the Maxwell stag used by Hannibal-like surnames. And for that matter, what about Hannover in the Brunswick theater? If Luna at La Spezia traces to Brunswick-Luneburg, why shouldn't some Hannibal elements do so too? Why is the Speck porcupine BROWN? By what coincidence does the Over surname use nothing but a blue bend on gold while the Bruno Coat (Tuscany) uses nothing but a gold bend on blue??? Suddenly, there is good reason to trace Specks to Carthaginians.
Actually, the Over Coat uses a small, faint symbol at the center of the bend, and it's a FRET, explaining why Overs were first found in Cheshire. What about that Maxwell-suspect MickleOVER location of the Sure's/Shore's? Does this speak of Schwerin and neighboring Mecklenburg all at once? Why are Overs also "Offer"?
The Hannover surname is listed with the Scottish Hanna's (blue stags). German Hannover's show no Coat. The capital of North-Rhine Westphalia is Dusseldorf, and the latter traces for a fact to the Hazels of Cheshire, using the Dusseldorf Shield, both showing a fesse in the colors of the Over bend. Earlier, we saw the Varni-suspect Vernons using the same fesse as Hazels, and the latter (branch of House's/HAUSS') may be from the namers of HASdrubal. Possibly, WestPHALIA is from "PamPHILIA."
SHERRifs ("Esse" motto term goes to the Ash's of Esse) use a fesse in colors reversed from the Hazel / Vernon fesse. While Vernons use a DEMI-goddess as pert code for Demys/DuMays/DuMais', Sherrif use a DEMY-lion. The Demys/DuMays (from a Vervin location) use only a chevron, in Hazel / Vernon colors. Why is a Mais-using surname tracing to the Varni goddess? As I trace Warwick to "Warsaw," where the Vere goddess, Melusine, is shown in the Arms, why were Sherrifs first found in Warwickshire? As Mouse-Tower lines ruled out of Warsaw (Masovia capital), one has cause to trace Sherrifs and other Sher-like terms to SARzana, near Masovia-suspect Massa. We saw Carricks and Saracens trace to Sarzana, but they are both in the colors of Shere's/Sheer's (share the Carrick talbot) and related Schere's/Scherfs. The Sherrifs look like a branch of Scherfs.
As the senior president Bush was born a Scherff surname, it's notable that while he was "adopted" (not in the legal / ordinary way) by the Bush family, Bush's are from Busca, not far from Sarzana. To put it another way, the Shere's/Sheers/Share's (said to be from an Essira location) are also "Shire," traceable to Sire's/Sirets, and then Buzau is a Siret tributary. One can see why the "Esse" motto term of Sherrifs could be for the Shere's of Essira. This picture allows the Siret elements to name Sarzana...where the 'z' was formerly a 't'. SARDinia, off the Sarzana coast, comes to mind, which I trace to Sardis, the Lydian capital, part of the Cotys > Attis > Lydus line. As Lydians are known to have been formed partly by Maeonians, note that Sards/SHERIDans share the Manner/Maness (probably using the Mens Chief) peacock as well as a version of the German Rodes Coat tracing to Rhodes, out to sea off the mouth of the Maeander. (English Rhodes' use a version of the Mander Coat).
Does it make sense to trace Sardis elements to Sarzana and/or the Siret? Yes, in both cases, for the line to Pisa involves Pelops, ruler of Lydia at an (H)Eneti location, while Heneti were traced to the Siret. Hannibal was suspect as a Heneti line. Does it make sense to trace Sardis elements to Certa? Yes, for Lydians were co-founded by Mysians, ancestry of Massena and his Mass-like peoples that, for some reason, were also called Numidians...suspect from Neamt at the Siret. Not only do German Manners use the Massey / Vere Shield, but the Manders use the Mate/Mathis Coat! I had forgotten about this when on the Mathis-river discussions. The black spread eagle in the Denton Crest can now go to the same of Luna's and Massi's/Mattis'.
Aha! The double bars of the English Manners must be of the Washington liners, for Manners were first found in the same place (Northumberland) as Dentons, and the latter use the double bars in Washington-bar colors. This recalls the Lum-related Dentons that I say are definitely Donnus > Wessel liners...from the Mitanni to the Mathis river to the Massi/Mattis surname in Massa. Lums/Lombs (Lombards?) proved to be Lamberts, and then the Maisys/Meyseys figure into it because they use cinquefoils in the colors of the Denton cinquefoils (means Maisys were merged with the Donnus/Cottius family without doubt). Maisys are said to be (likely) from Meisy in Calvados so as to be suspect with the mouse-using Meis'/Misls, part of the Mouse-Tower line to Mieszko Lambert. One can see here the strong link of Varni liners to Mouse-Tower lines, but also the re-occurring theme of a Cottius merger with, and/or migration to, the Varni. Maisy's (same dragon head design as Cutters) were first found in the same place as Wessel-suspect Watts.
While Lum/Lombs use the Dutch-Camp eagle head, Mathis' share gyronny with Campbells. Maisy were at a HAMPton Meysey location, and Hamptons share cinquefoils and a format with Maiseys. In this picture, the Hampton besants on red are of the Mate/Mathis surname, which I looked up due to the LeMait variation of Demys/DuMais'.
AMAZING: it was an emailer with Ampton/Hampton surname that tipped me off (several years ago) concerning the "Laus Deo" written at the top of the Washington Monument, but it would be years before coming across the "Laus Deo" motto phrase of Manders. I now find, in the midst of tracing Mitanni to Washington's ancestry in Wessel, that Manders are related to Hamptons (where the latter use the Mathis / Mander besants on red). And this is now tracing the Mathis river (Mitanni suspects) to the Maeander river. To have Mysian-rooted Maisys in this Maeonian picture makes for good sense.
The Cottius-Massey-Vere merger goes to Montferrat, right? Yes, for this has to do with Fers/Ferrats using the Massi/Mattis checks while Cotts use fretty. Meisi is in the same place (Calvados) as where English Guerins were first found. I felt that Montferrat went back to Guerin/Garin of Provence, and so note that Italian Guerino's/Garins/VARINi (in Varn colors) use bars in the colors of the same of the Wessel-suspect Wettins while German Garins (same lion as Mies'/Misl's and Carols) are listed with a Goring/Geur surname first found in Saxony, the Arms of which uses the Wettin Coat. This becomes more important where Windsors, said by some to be from Wettins, are said, in the Other-Coat write-up, to be from Otho of LOMBardy (see the Odo character of the Bessin in the English Guerin write-up). That gives me the sense that the Lums/Lombs were from Lombardy, ABSOLUTELY PERFECT because Milan is the Lombardy capital, and Milan is where Luna's, a branch of Lamberts were first found, where also Otho-like and Cottius-suspect Ottone Visconti ruled!!
Let's go back to the Mickleover location of the Sure's/Shore's honored by Kilpatricks. Mickels (Shield format of Leaders and Ladons/Ladds suspect in the "laidir" motto term of Kilpatricks) are listed with mascle-using Michaels/Mitchells (Meschin-Shield format and colors), first found in the same place (Surrey) as Shere's/Share's. Although the Mickel description tells that the Crest is a hand holding a cross, the Mickel-Crest symbol now showing is the so-called "pen" in the Carlysle Crest (same colors, same design). Aside from the trace of this pen to Penestae near the Mathis river, I have a major revelation at hand. It has to do with my claim that CAROLingians were founded by Carlisle elements (at the Pennines suspect with "Penestae").
I had traced the Carol and Hagel lions to the same-colored ones in the Arms of Kyburg (suspect with the COVERs/Coburgs at the root of Windsors) because the Arms shares the gold-on-black bars of the Hagels (Swabia theater). It just so happens that while Kyburg is at Zurich, the Surrich variation of Surreys speaks of it. MickleOVER can now trace to the Zurich theater, important because the city is on the Swabia border, which is where I traced Hoffs and Hoffers / Kaufer(t)s suspect in the Offer variation of Overs. Not only are Overs in Maisy colors and using the Macey-related fret symbol, but the Meis/Misl Coat shares the same gold-on-black lion under discussion in this paragraph.
Hoffs, who share a black wolf in Crest with Bellows, were first found in the same place as Masseys / Maceys and Overs/Offers. But the Saracens, like "Zurich" and sharing a gold Shield with Surreys/Surrichs, likewise use a black wolf. Does this mean that Sarzana and Zurich are related entities? As the Arms of Zurich (Shield split diagonally in blue and white) are like the Cover/Coburg Coat (Over colors), do Windsors trace to Sarzana? Yes, if the Cottius>Wessel liners do.
The Others (said to be Windsor ancestors) use a motto, "Watch," which was immediately suspect with the Wheat-related and Wettin-suspect Wessels before seeing WestCOTT location of the Watch/Wadge surname (Sure/Shore Shield?)! The Oter variation of Others can be traced to the idea that "Otes/Otis" is a Cotes variation belonging to the Cotts. The Wage variation of Watch's strikes me as a Wassa/Gace variation. In fact, Gage's are traced to a Gaacey location in Hagel-suspect L'Aigle" ... and the hourglass Shield of gage's is not only in the colors of the same of HALFs/Helps, but in the colors of the Arms of Zurich (important where the Hagel Coat has two symbols tracing to Kyburg). As Maisy's figured into this line to/from Zurich, its notable: 1) Maisy's were first found in the same place (Gloucestershire) as Hoff-suspect Halfs/Helps; 2) the Maisy Coat looks roughly like the Gage Coat; 3) the Demy/DuMais chevron is colors reversed from the French Gage chevron; 4) the Mait variation of the Deny's/DuMais' us suspect with Wassukanni / Mitanni line to Wassa's/Gace's and Wessels/Gastells.
As Wests and similar surnames were already suspect with "VESTalis," the find of "Westcott" seems like a bullseye. Here's the Westcott surname (grails) perhaps using the Alan / Jordan/Denot fesse. Maisy's could be using the fesse of Jordans/SHURDane's suspect with Sardis lines to Sardinia. There was a Shurdane-like Sea Peoples that are routinely traced to Sardinians.
We have made a major discovery, that Windsors were Cottius liners of the Other/Oter and Lum/Lomb kind. It's a wonder how Lombards (predated Mieszko I) could be named after the same that named Mieszko Lambert. I can tell you this, that Lombards were a branch of Suebi, a Sabine line to the naming of Swabia. As Lamberts were Luna's who trace to Brunswick-Luneburg, that's probably why the Dutch Others use a BROWN otter. Windsors are tracing to Brunswick-Luneburg, not surprising where the first British Windsors were part Stewart, part Hanoverian George's.
With Lums/Lombs and Dentons together showing themselves to be related to Bellows and Billets, and because Dentons share the cinquefoils of Macey-suspect Maisys/Meyseys, Bellows do look like Bellamy liners...an important point for tracing Bellamys to the Bilis river too. It's suggesting that the Gorgon Medusa > Pegasus line was allied to the Bilis-river elements of Bellerophon. I suspect that "MEDusa" was a Mitanni line, and her name can trace to "Mathis" very well. Gorgons of heraldic concern are suspect in two places, Africa and Parium of Mysia. In both cases, the Gorgons are Amazon kin, which is why they can trace to the Amazon-related Gargarians. Wikipedia is out to lunch to trace "Gorgon" to a gargling sound from the throat.
The Gorgon Medusa had a sister, Stheno, smacking of the Ligurian king, Sthenelus, father of the Ligurian SWAN king, Cycnus/Cygnus, suspect from Gogarene at lake SEVAN (Georgia, where Gargarians lived). This was a line to Sabine-suspect Savona, meaning also that Sabine's/Safini trace well to "Sevan." It also means that Gorgons are expected with the Sabine line to Swabia. The Lombards trace by their Suebi kin to this entity, and Lombards (suspect by some with the Vinili) may have had long hair, which can figure in the snake-hair symbol of Gorgons. It can be gleaned that "Stheno' was a Sithone peoples to the Seatons/Sittens, and that can explain why the Seaton crescents (colors of Bellamy crescents) are colors reversed from the Other/Oter crescents. The latter surname is said to be merged with Carrara-like Gerards, and it just so happens that the Pisa lion is in half the colors of the Gerard lion! The Garred variation and similar others are now suggesting the Gard elements linking to Cottius liners.
The Dougals who share the Gerard lion use a Boyd-like motto term that I can trace to Italian Botters (Budini suspects), in the colors of the Dougal / Gerard lion. That works because Botters were first found in Lucca, smack beside Carrara. The question is, what were Dougals/Dowells named after? Douglas' use the Julian Crest, which can trace Dougals to the Cottian line of Julius Caesar. The Cotta fretty is in the colors of the Dougal lion, and then Dougals were born from MacDonalds while MacDonalds share the Ferte eagle! That works. The Boyds trace to Bute, where Rory of MacDonald ruled, and Rorys use a the Bute lion, lion in colors reversed to the Dougal lion (it's therefore the Caepio-line lion), and likewise in half the colors of the Pisa lion! Caiaphas' line from Caepio must have been in Pisa.
As Sithones were a tribe of EDONi, it brings back to mind the Jutes = Eotens, and so let's first mention that a "Medusa" trace to the Mathis river works well with a Penestae trace to the Pennines, where we find an EDEN river flowing smack to Carlisle, the entity now tracing with Carols (in Carrick colors) to Kyburg / Zurich. These two Car terms can then go to "Carrara" if Zurich elements were at Sarzana. The Surrey/Surrich Coat happens to use red-and-white checks, the colors of the same of Hohens, known to be from Swabia (see Hohenzollerns and Hohenstaufens, one of the two from GOPPingen).
I don't know whether king George of Hannover is related to, or representative of, any of the George surnames, but I can tell you that the English George Coat (Gogi blue and white, Hanna/Hannover colors) uses blue-on-white doves (can trace to Cuppae and blue-on-white Cope's / Copps), the colors of the Wessel swans (Wessels traced hard to Copeland). Both the George and Wessel surnames use a blue-on-white bar with gold symbols. Both Coats are in the colors of the Arms of Zurich, and the black talbot (said to have a "gold collar dancette") in the George Crest can go with Carricks to Sarzana. German Georges/GORGENs share double gold-on-black bends with Hagels and the Arms of Kyburg, what a coincidence. In the German-George Crest, an upright gold lion, the Hagel / Kyburg symbol too. Although German George's are not given a first-found location, the only person mentioned with a location is at Hamburg, smack beside Hannover.
I think what we just saw was an Over/Offer (of HannOVER) trace to Swabia, where they ought to trace, and yet Overs are using the Bruno bend. Overs/OFFERs are in the colors of COVERt-suspect COPPERs ("demi leopard guardant"). Coverts and Coppers were both first found in the same place with Donnus-suspect Deans, Diens, etc. Curts (suspect with Curtis'/Cotis' = Cottius liners now suspect to Windsors) are also "Covert." Thus, as Wessels traced to Copeland, it appears that Overs/Offers are Wessel liners of the Cope / Copper kind. This recalls the Cottius trace to Coffers. Earlier, Curts were concluded as Benjamin liners, and so let's repeat that Jabesh-suspect Jeffersons/Jephsons use a leopard face (Hoffer symbol) and saltire in colors reversed from the same of Coppers.
Hoffers (Westphalia) use the Mathie crown as well as a black leopard face, very important for clinching the Gorgon-Mathis trace to Swabian Hoff lines, for black leopard faces are used by Seaton-suspect Keatons while Seatons trace to the Gorgon sister, Stheno. Ahh, the Steins, also using leopard faces, smack of "Stheno," and my claim can now be repeated, as per the known leopard symbol of the Boofima cult, that "BaphoMET was partly named after Medusa elements in Africa. I didn't know until now that the Medusa lines were infested with leopard imagery. The leopard-using Coppers even use a "dexter paw," yet another Boofima symbol in my opinion.
Steins were first found in the same place as Benjamins, and it just so happens that the Gorgon Medusa was killed by Perseus in relation to his being in Jabesh-suspect Joppa. He with his wife (AndroMEDA) at Joppa gave birth to Gorgophone, who in turn mothered STHENelus of Sparta. German Steins use a goat, the Baphomet symbol. The Steins are thus revealed as Seaton liners.
The Arms of Hannover use a "portcullis" gate, symbol also of the Seaton-honored Yates/Yetts. The portcullis is a Porter Crest symbol, and then French Porters are using the Over / Bruno bend. They use nothing but the bend; ditto for Bruno's.
As one can glean a link between Hannover and Dusseldorf (a Westphalian capital) with Overs as the common bond, consider Vlads/Flattens, first found in Westphalia and using the Zionist star of Cheps (the latter use the Speck eagle). These Vlads are very linkable to Wessels because the latter share the garb of Josephs with "wlad" motto term, but "Vlad/Flatten" smacks of Flaad, reportedly the first-known Alan of Dol. Didn't Cottius liners already trace to Alans?
The Stewarts were replaced on the British throne by the Hanoverian dynasty. What could this mean? Have the Numidians "conquered" Britain? Isn't Scottish Rite and York Rite MASONry from the Massena line? The Arms of Luneburg use a portcullis too (the kind that have metal spikes dropping down to hold the fort at night). Whose blue-on-gold lion is it in the Arms of Luneburg?
The Lune surname is listed with green-lion Lyons, and so the hearts in the Arms of Luneburg could be a symbol of Herods out of Lyon. But the blue Luneburg lion may not be the Lune/Lyon lion. The Lannoys not only use the Lyon lion, but a feathered helmet (symbol of Herod Archelaus at Vienne-Isere), symbol on the rider in the McCAFFERy Coat. The "Kaufer" surname was tried for after not finding a Koffer surname in Germany, and it turns out the Kaufers/Kaufmans were first found in Hannover, tending to clinch the city as HannKaufer, so to speak. This is suspect with the Gube/Goby line from Coffey/Coffer-suspect Gopheye (the GAUBurg variation of Coburgs can apply). It can trace to Syphax / Sophonisba elements. Dan BROWN (i.e. Brunswick elements), in his Da Vinci Code, has a certain code (Sophia neveu) that I traced quite hard to Sophonisba. It's what made her an important topic in my hunts. She was engaged to Massena but taken by Syphax instead.
In as much as "Hope" can be from the KOFman variation of Kaufers, the Kaufer anchor is likely the Hope anchor (both Coats show nothing but a large anchor). In fact, Hope's show also as "Hopperman" and "HOPFer." That's a match. The Hood variation of Hope's/Hofers then goes to the anchor-using Hoods/Hudds who, like the Overs/Offers, use a fret, tending to verify that Overs are a branch of Kaufers. The Hoffs/Houghs, like the Overs/Offers, were first found in Cheshire. Perhaps the exercise above is useful for tracing Caiaphas-suspect lines to the Mathis river and its Cavii peoples, but the re-occurring problem is the Cap/Hap/Haf versus Cop/Hop/Hof terms. Are they all from one, or two stocks? Should we be looking to a Cavii > Kaufer > Coffer/Hoffer evolution of terms so that Coffers and Coverts are Cavii liners? Or was there a separate line from Cuppae to Coppers and Coverts?
The HAZEL leaves are used by French House's, and English House's are "Howes" while "Siward's Howe" was another name for HESLington Hall. It means that Hazels were House's, or that House's trace to the namers of Dusseldorf. As the latter is the capital of North-Rhine Westphalia capital, it notable that the bend in the Arms of North-Rhine Westphalia is in the colors of the House's/Howes', first found in the same place (Berkshire) as Windsor castle. It is feasible that the Hows variation of House's is from "Hofs." Did you spot the anchor in the House/Howes Crest that belongs to the Kaufer and Hope's/Hofmans?
Howe does this all help as rather than confuse us? Why should Hazels look like they are from Cavii > Kaufer Hausser > House > Hows > Hazel? Ahh, but if Hazels / Hauss' trace to the Has location off the Mathis river of the Cavii, we might be able to un-confuse. In this picture, "Hows" is the term deceiving us that doesn't evolve into "Hof," and yet Howe's (also in Berkshire, as with House's/Howes') share the black wolf with Hoffs/Houghs. I'm confused. The bet is that Howe's were from Has and merged with Hoffer lines from the Cavii. The latter had traced to/from Cuppae.
Hazels and Heslingtons, and Aethelings likely, were at one time merged with Kaufer / Hoffer / Over liners from the Brunswick / Hannover theater, and suspect in earlier times with the Caiaphas-proper line. The Atheling-suspect Athols (bars in the colors of the Saxony bars) were first found in the same part of Scotland as Scottish Chappes' using Wessel-suspect wheat. The question is whether Caiaphas produced Kaufer lines, or vice-versa, or whether they were two separate branches that tended to merge in points of history.
The House's/Hauss' call their symbols "cabbage" leaves, not likely because they liked cabbage. If they were Gorgons, they didn't likely gargle with cabbage wine. "Cabbage" was not likely their original name. What were they really? The Cabbage surname is in Benjamin colors, and in the colors of the Arms of Saxony that can be found, along with the Arms of Luneburg, on some Arms of the Hanoverian royal Brits. The Cabbage/Cubbel surname (first found in the same place as Quince's) has Coburg-suspect surnames, or ones that may trace to Jabesh elements, which is why it's pointed out that the Coat is in Benjamin colors. Some of the variations look like they can go to the Gube's/Gobys and Cubits/Cobbets, the latter being a blue-lion line suspect with Quince's / Quints / Quinns / WINchesters...and perhaps Weiners using what looks like a version of the Coburg Coat. Belgian Weiners (same Coat) are also "WENSER." Does this trace Windsors to Quintus Caepio? Austrian Weiners look like they can go to the Arms of Kyburg. Purple-Shielded English Winners look like they can go to general Scipio with the Macey chevron.
Both the Weiners and Winners were capable of creating wine themes, perhaps in honor of the Oenomaus (of Pisa) line to the Oeneus at Methoni, this being the Jabesh > Japodes line to the Oeneus river. But the Japodes were on the Kupa river (also called, Colapis). I'm confused again. Are Cope / Copp terms from Jabesh-ites while Hoff terms are from the Cavii? On what side of this fog are the Coverts / Overs/Offers?
The Cabbage/CUBBEL surname was first found in NorthAMPton, and leopard-loving HUBBEL's in HAMPshire, wherefore the black Amp/Impy leopard face may go to the same of Hoffs/Hoffers, first found in Westphalia (where Over-suspect Hazels and Dussels trace). Heraldry is quite a science, isn't it, capable of revealing the underwear on the meanest dragon. By what coincidence is "Wiener/Wiener" the birth surname of Michael Savage while "Savage" looks like it's from "Cabbage"? The Savage's even use lions in colors reversed from the Cabbage lion.
The Cabbage/Cubbel Coat uses holly, as do Sure's/Shore's that can trace to Zurich, the latter using a Shield split diagonally like the Weiners. The Islips, Hazel kin, also use holly, and so didn't we expect "Cubbel" to link to Hazel-related Copp / Hoff / Jeff liners? As Cabbage's are in the colors of Holle-suspect Elis', we need to remember that the Jabesh-Benjamite entity arrived to Grecian Pisa. The Elis cross (in the colors of the Benjamin saltire) has white symbols, and so that's a match with the white-on-black of the Cabbage/Cubbel Chief. As Jabesh liners traced to Chepstow, it's likely important that this location is on the Monmouth border with Gloucestershire, for the Benjamins use annuLETs while Letts were first found in Gloucestershire. From this, one can entertain a Chep > Cabbage > Savage evolutionary chain.
The Cabbage Line of Jabesh at Neamt
The following Aluta topic was inserted here in the midst of the Cabbage discussion, only to find that it complimented it. See the same gold griffin as used by Mazza's and Pembroke's in the Coat of dancette-using Holders, first found in Gloucestershire. I'm now wondering whether Holders/Olders and Colters / Colts/Cults can trace to the Olt river, anciently the Aluta...on the other side of the Carpathians from Moldova. Why do ELTons use three bars identical in position, direction and colors with the same of CARPenters? The Elton bars are colors reversed from the same of German Julians, and the crescents in this Julian Coat are colors reversed from the Seaton crescents.
As Eltons were first found in the same place as English Masseys (and Savages), is the Elton Coat (see the Sale's) using a version of the Mazza bend? Eltons use an "ArtiBUS" variation; the Aluta flowed through ARTUtela (see map). Cabbages use "ReBUS." The erect sword of Eltons was traced as a Bistones people group to the Baseu term in Moldova, near the Sitna river where Gorgon Stheno may now trace, and Bistones proper were in Africa, as was Gorgon Medusa. It just dawned on me that "Baseu" can be from the Abzu/Apsu entity that I link to proto-Poseidon, and thus tracing to Pisidians now suspect as a branch of Bistones. The Apsu entity was suspect at "Apasa," an alternative name of Ephesus, like "Jabesh." Ephesus (founded by Amazons i.e. works well with Gorgons) had traced to Moldova with Aphrodite, Hephaestus' wife.
The Trists traced to Moldova's Trusesti location, between the Sitna and Baseu, while ALTens use a "tristus" motto term. See "Pons YETus" on the Aluta very near Artutela, for Stheno-based Seatons, from the Sitna river, use "HazARD yet" in their motto (i.e. the Yate's/Yetts (Gloucestershire again) appear to trace to this Aluta location). English Altons were first found in the same place as Bugs, suspect with the Nahor-Buz families on the Bug river (about 120 miles from Trusesti). "ABZu" had been traced to "Buz" in a shot-in-the-dark, intuitive claim. The "Alta" term in the Mold write-up can be suspect with Aluta elements too for obvious reason.
CALDers are using the same swan as Walsh's. It suddenly strikes me that the Khaldi may have named the Aluta after themselves, especially as the Walsh swan is pierced with an arrow, symbol of the CALYDonian boar. The Calders (in Calt/Cole colors) highlight their red ANTlers, suspect with the Heneti near the Khaldi. This is a good place to tell that, after some years of ignorance, I equated Perseus (killer and branch of Medusa Gorgon) with Aphrodite, which helped me to realize that the PARTHENius river of the Heneti (home of the Aphrodite > Venus line) is what Perseus (suspect with Parthians while his wife, AndroMEDA, was suspect with Parthian-related Medes) was named after.
The Colts/Cults (Branch of Calders) use a red stag. The Calt/Cole bull traces very well to KOLODziej "the "Wheelwright," and Colters share the Catherine wheel with Wheelwrights. This is a real bonanza to find good traces to the Aluta, including the Mieszko's. As Heneti were Paphlagonians, recall the Popiel was at the Mouse Tower prior to Mieszko. This is effectively tracing Apophis Hyksos to the Aluta.
Here is an alternative Colt/Celt Coat using the Coutts surname. Just look at how it's the Calder Coat, explaining why Calders are also "Cadder/Cauder." Houseofnames has them as "Coots" (Elginshire at Moray) too, and this now suggests another Cottius line. Remember, the Colts / Coutts are suspect with the mother of Pontius Pilate, and having just found a reason to trace her to the Cotys > Cottius line can trace "Pontius" to the Pontus, where I see mythical Cotys forming, and where the Khaldi lived. It looks very much like Pontius' mother was a Cottius liner merged with Scottish Caledonians, or even the proto-Caledonians. The way to get Cottius liners to Scotland is via the invasion of Julius Caesar into Britain (Cottius lived at about that time). Giving a daughter in marriage was a way to make alliances with enemies (for to beat up other enemies). Was she a daughter of Donnus or Cottius? I don't know the dates of either man's birth or death, but hope to find them as I have time.
There must be some secret, because entering "Coot" won't bring the surname up even though it's visibly listed. Here is another Coot surname using the Alis / Keath motto...begging whether "VestALIS" has to do with "Alis." The latter Coots share a muzzled bear with Alis' and Otes', thus clinching the Cotes = Otton/Otes equation. Here is a reason that Alis' are using a version of the Alpin Coat, suggesting that the Pictish founder of Scottish (MacAlpin) was a Cottius or Julian liner.
Look at how near the Aluta flows to Angusta. It was VERY HAPPY to find that Cabbages use an "angustis" motto term, for I emphasized Angusta recently with great suspicion as per a line from Annas. Angusta was suspect with Angus, beside the Perthshire region of Pilate's mother.
Angusta was also suspect in a line to snake-related Marsi / Marici / Mercian peoples. The latter inhabited central England (could have been in Cheshire, therefore) and can be suspect with key heraldic lines. The Haughts, from Sigrid the Haughty (smacks of Cheshire's Hoffs/Houghs), were suspect with the Sugaar snake cult, bonded to a Mari cult, and it just so happens that the Haught Coat uses three bars in colors reversed to the Humber bars, important because Mercians ruled from the Humber river. The Amber surname happens to be listed with the Lamberts. As the Pepin line to the Mouse Tower came from the Bebba Bernicians, it could appear that some Bernician-associated Mercian blood got involved at the Mouse Tower's Pepinid domain. How much of that blood was in the veins of Mieszko II Lambert?
The Haught / Humber bars are suspect from the Arms of Trebizond Empire, and can therefore trace to Trypillians of Angusta. Umbria in Italy is not very far from the Marsi at lake Fucino, what could trace to "Focsani" near Angusta. Recall that Baskets, said to be from Basques, had become a topic in the Lambert discussion, for Sugaar and Mari were Basque deities. Mieszko Lambert's family was associated with MERSEburg (where he was married), in Saxon-AnHALT. The Arms of Merseburg, as with the Arms of Breslau, uses the head of John the Baptists on a plate, which I think is code for the line of Herod Antipas, who was the one that had John killed...but the Arms may also be code for the Gorgon-Medusa symbol.
Proto-Mars was definitely in Moldova where the Bistones worshiped Ares. And the Bistones have been traced to "Piast" and "Pisa." To link proto-Mars to Pisa and Elis, Angitia, snake goddess of the Marsi, tended to identify as Melusine. Here is an Elis Coat showing a red Melusine (snake tail originally) that can trace to the Siret river (because she's sometimes called a "Siren" while the Siron/Siret surname uses a green coiled snake). Angitia was suspect with the naming of the Angles (Varni / Jute kin), who entered Britain about the same time as Mercians appeared there. Therefore, Mercians and Angles can be traced to Cottius liners too (i.e. along with Jutes and/or Varni). The Marici of the Ticino river are coming to mind, not at all far from Susa, the capital of Cottius.
English Marks share an upright gold lion with Mouse-Tower Meis'/Misl's. German Marks show the Roman eagle holding the Shakespeare spear, and the latter use the same bend as Varns. The other two Mark surnames look like Stewarts (it figures, because Wessel lines went to Alans), and the French branch use checks in the colors of the Italian Fulks (first found in the Pisa theater), important because the English Fulke's/Folks use the Shakespeare spear. In this way, the Marici can trace well to the Mark surname, which can take the Marici to the Varni theater.
Compare the Marks to the Boyds and reflect on the Dougal-Boyd discussion earlier that traced to Pisa, Carrara and Lucca. The Dowells, in German Dol (Mecklenburg) colors, have Dol-like variations and may be a separate stock from "Dougal," which is to say an Alan-of-Dol merger with the Julian-Douglas line.
[Insert -- I'll come back to the Dol = Dougal topic, but before leaving the Mercians I'd like to say that the Arms of Mercia is the same Coat as Messeys/Messiers. Then, I have just discovered a way to identify Mieszko's with Masseys/Maceys and Masci's both with more than my word on it, by finding a Coat I don't recall seeing before. It started by tackling the "erased" term in the Lum/Lomb description. The Lom eagles are said to be "erased." There are many surnames using "erased" features, but I was never able to find a surname intended by that code...until I tried "Eras" just now to find the RasMUSSON surname, which is the one now leading NATO. "Eras" is actually shown, as is "Raes," suggesting a Rae- or Rass-Mussen merger. There is a Mussen/Moucon surname.
The point is, the Rasmussen bend goes up in the rare direction, from left to right. The only two I can think of, using this bend, is the Masci and Massena Coats, and here we seem to have a third Masci liner doing so, for the bend shows the three symbols (fleur-de-lys) as per the Masci bend. Plus, the Rasmussen unicorn is in the colors of Massey fleur...which happen to be the colors of the Lum/Lomb Coat. Therefore, Rasmussens link to Mieszko Lambert.
The unicorn should prove to be a version of the Massey pegasus...born from the death of the Gorgon Medusa and therefore suspect with the Perseus > Gorgophone > STHENelus line to the Ligurian swan cult (the Atreus-related Spartans also led to this swan cult). The Savona location, that is, suspect with the Sabine's, the fellow tribe of Lum-related LOMBards. Have I got that right? Like I said, the Mercians are from the Marsi in the land of the Sabines (at the east side of mount Sabina). It just so happens that while Mercians ruled at the HUMBER river, mount Sabina is on the UMBRia border. It's notable that Humbers share three horizontal bars with Fullers while both were first found in Herefordshire. The FERMiora" motto term of Fullers will apply below, but let's recall that Fullers are Belli kin traceable to Bellerophon and Pegasus. The Mercy surname (shares a quartered Crest with Masseys) is even listed with the Maisy's, who use the Bellows cinquefoils. Mercy's/Maisy's lived in MARSton Meysey, exposing the Mercian-Marsi merger. See also the Maas/March surname suspect from Maastricht.
Aha! Marstons (black greyhound with collar) use the Sale/Sallete fleur on what looks like the Mercy/Maisy chevron in colors reversed. The Marsi proper lived on / off of a Salto river that I had traced to the Sale's/Sallete's, first found in the same place as Masseys, and likewise using three fleur on their bend (as do Rasmussens and Masci's). Therefore, judging from the Arms of Mercia using the Messey/Messier saltire, it appears that there was a close Masci relationship with the Marsi > Mercia line. Add to this that Ligurians were founded at a Massalia location (near the mouth of river that Salyes Ligures lived) that was later Marsi-like "Marseilles." It seems very safe to trace "Massalia/Massilia" to the peoples ruled by king Massena (I can never recall how to spell those peoples, but it is very close to "Massal/Massil."
The English/Scottish Mercier Coat refuses to load for me at this time. I have not had this problem before with any other surname. I've tried it several times, and for several minutes at a time, but the Coat will not show. French Mercier's (crescents) were first found in Artois, and it just so happens that, while looking for a surname that "erased" might apply to, the Arris/Arras/Arrow surname from the Artois capital (Arras) was found. It uses gold-fleur-de-lys on black, colors reversed from the Eras/Rasmussen fleur! That suggests that the Rasmussens were Arras-Mussen elements. Arras was "Atrecht" at one time, the Atrebates capital tracing to Atreus, a golden-lamb line of Pelops to the Benjamites in Grecian Pisa. That can explain why the Arras/Arrow Coat is using nearly the Elis Coat. The question is, were Lombards named after "lamb" in respect to the Atreus lamb line? It looks like it's true, and that Mieszko Lambert applies to that idea.
Of further interest is that Spanish Ares'/Aris' use a lion in colors reversed to the same of Massins/Masons, meaning that king Massena must have been from the Aures/Awraba area of Numidia...or at least that Aures elements merged with the Massena line. In either case, it seems that the namers of Aures named Arras. This entity can be suspect at "Aurelia Cotta."
Immediately after writing the above, I scrolled back to find the Borderlands Mercier Coat showing (English Messiers show no Coat but do have a page. Jewish Ares' have a page but show no Coat). The Borderlands Mercier's show besants on red, which, in colors reversed, become red roundels, the color of the Orell roundels. It just so happens that while Orrs also use red roundels, they use the so-called "piles" (suspect with Pylos at Messene) of Guiscards (same place as Chappes'/Cheaps) who in turn use a "Mercy" motto term. Therefore, the Orrs and Orrels look like Aures elements, and yet "Orell" smacks of "Aurelia." Aures was suspect with "Ares" = proto-Mars, and so the Pisidian-suspect Bistones are predicted to have been at Aures. One might imagine this Ares cult moving north through Taranto to the land of the Marsi, and from there to Pisa and the Cotta family.
The Bistones are very-much predicted as the namers of the Bessin (perhaps Wikipedia is wrong in tracing the Bessin founders to Baiocasses), judging from the near-identical Biston and Bessin/Beeston Coats. They both use the Sale bend, and Sales were first found in the same place as Bessins/Beestons. Remember here that the Italians represented by Poseidon's son, Atlas, were at mount Maiello in Abruzzo, and therefore near to the Marsi. I read that Maja, the goddess of that mountain, had lamented that her children were gone. Where did they go? Plato essentially said they went to the Atlantic coast.
The Borderlands Mercier's share the patee cross with Massena's. French Mercier's show crescents in the colors of the Coffer/Coffaire crescents, which could indicate that Aures liners to Artois were first in Taranto (Spartan entity, same as mythical Atreus) with the Coffers/Coffeys (use the Arms of Taranto)...and MacAfferys and Motels. Compare "Caffer/Affer" to "Awr(aba)" as the 'w' changes to an 'f'. I read that Spartans founded Taranto, and yet the Arms of Taranto uses Taras, a son of Poseidon, and therefore a Pisidian-suspect peoples. Atreus (ruler at Mycenae) was a son of Pelops who in-turn married Pisa, and Atreus' son was a Spartan.
The white horse of McCafferys/Afferys can become the Eras/Rasmussen unicorn, but now look at this, for the Aur surname uses the red lion head of Fermins while Fire's/Fewer's use the Eras/Rasmussen unicorn. Both the Fire's and Mercier's use "Christo/Christi," but this is likely code for a Christ-like surname, such as the Christians using another unicorn, described like so: "A silver unicorn's head ERASED..."
The Fire/FEWer surname is suspect with the FUImus motto term of Bruce's and Were's. In fact, as I claim that Taranto was founded by elements of Tarun = MUS of lake Van, note both "FiuMUS" and 'RasMUSSEN." It's very obvious not that Bruces are honoring this Rasmussen line from Abruzzo's Marsi, and so that helps much to convince readers that Bruce's ("Brusi" anciently) were named after Abruzzo/Abrussi.
Mussens/Mustins (in Must/Muscat colors) were first found in the same place (Yorkshire) as Bruce's and Fermins. Mussens are said to be from Ghent/Gand elements, explaining the gauntlet gloves of Maceys and Van-suspect Vains/Veyne's and Wayne's. Note that Musts/Muscats use the red lion heads of Were's and Aurs, as well as what could be the Washington bars. The Arms of Gace happens to use a red-on-white lion! Once again, Macey liners are linking to Gace...fully expected where Gace's/Wassa's trace to Methoni in Messene.
The Fire/Fewer unicorn is half goat in the bottom side, which can indicate mythical Satyrion, co-founder of Taranto. This is the surname that I traced to a Satyr-like river in Cuneo. That river flows through Demonte, and it just so happens that the Demonte lions can be the Maschi lions, and are even doubled up like the near-identical double lions of Voirs/Voyers (two lions beside one another are not likely doubled-up lions, but are so only when in a vertical direction). It just so happens that the Voir lion is called after "Mark the evangelist," but that's got to be code for the Marici-suspect Marks. The Demonte's above were first found in the same place (Burgundy) as same-colored Messeys/Messier's (the ones suspect in the Arms of Mercia, albeit the family that actually gave the saltire (directly) to Mercia might not be the Messeys/Messier's).
AHA. The Italian Demonte's (Piedmont, location of Cuneo) use the Fire-style unicorn, which must be what made me absolutely certain that the Fire unicorn traced to Satyrs on the Stura river through Demonte (see map). The Demonte's are suspect with MUSkerry-related Desmonds/Geralds, and to this it should be added that the related Deas surname was first found in Angus while Fermins are expected from count Vrm of Angusta.
Later, when I get to seeking whose symbols the "angustis"-using Cabbage's are using (which was done before inserting this Mercier topic here), you might want to remember that their fleur are in the colors of the Marston fleur, that surname being a branch of Mercy's/Maisy's. It just so happens that the white-on-black lion of Cabbage's is shared by the Arms of Cuneo, and to this I'll add that the Cabbage lion will be traced to the Raines lion, important for tracing the Raines' to "Rainier" of Montferrat...in Cuneo. The white lion is used also by Montforts, whom I trace to a Monforte location in the Montferrat area.
There is a white lion in the Marris/Merry Crest, and the red lions and canton in the Coat of this surname are suspect with the Arms of Gace and the Gace/Wassa Coat respectively. It just so happens that the Meret location of Marris'/Merrys is in the same place (Norfolk) as where Wheats/Wete's were first found. The Merris bloodline is suspect with Hectors of Angus as per mythical Ector de Maris. A Merry link to Gace's/Gassons can go to "Gascony, home of Basques, owners of mythical Mari, wife of a snake god suspect with Angitia of the Marsi. In this little paragraph, one has cause to trace Angitia to "ANGusta."
As MARTels and MARTins were first found in Gascony, they look like Meret elements. As I've traced the Gascony-flag garbs to Cheshire (but now go also to the Wessel/Gastell garbs, I would not guess that the French Gascony surname is using the Mercy/Maise Coat in red. German Gascons/Gasts, who could be Wessel/Gastell liners, were first found in Hamburg, yet another Cottius-line trace to the Varni theater.
While Demonte's are "Dumon," the Desmonds/Demons should apply, and they happen to use what looks like a version of the Christ/Kirst Coat (the latter shares a white wing with Masci's). Desmonds/Demons were first found in Orrel-suspect Orleans, and so while I trace Orrels to the mother of Julius Caesar, note that Christ's use roses in both colors scheme's of Caesars, or that the Caesar Coat (not including the Chief) is identical to the Desmond/Demon Coat. Therefore, the "Christi" motto term of Bouillons, Fire's and Mercier's is not in honor of Jesus, but of the dragonic Cottius-Julian bloodline.
Looking at "Julian," I looked up the Yule surname (Shetland), and using what looks like the Mercy/Maisy Shield, with a gold garb (Cheshire- / Wessel-garb color) at the center. Ask why Blanks (Leicester / Bus cinquefoil), likewise first found in Shetland, use the Gascony cinquefoil in colors reversed. Aren't Blanks a branch of Wheat-like White's, and don't Wessels trace to Gascony elements of the Wassa/Gace kind?
The Yule Crest is "an ear of wheat" (not showing as a garb, however), while Wessels use a "wheat garb." There are other reasons for identifying Yule's as Julians, but then Yale's (chapeau cap, code for Chappes', who also use "ears of wheat") are Julian suspects too. German Julians are in Yule colors and share crescents with Yule's, but the German-Julian crescents are in the colors of the Yale crescent! Yule's use a 'Numine" motto term while Newmans share the Raines / Cabbage / Cuneo lion.
Yale's were first found in the same place as Welsh Bachs, and so let me add that French Bacons use cinquefoils in the colors of the Blank / Bus cinquefoil, for the Cabbages (buried "bus" term in motto) will trace to Moldova's Bacau location with Bakers. Yale's share the boar with Bacons (but the Yale boar is in the blue color of the Vere boar). As Bacons/Beacons are honored in the Fuller beacon while the Fullers bars had just linked to the Humber bars, note that the three Humber bars are in the colors of the same of beacon-like Beaks/Beke's. To verify that Beaks and Humbers are using the Arms of Trebizond Empire, there is an ostrich, the Traby symbol, in the Beak Crest. As the gold lion face of Beaks is now suspect with Medusa lines, note the Bacon motto, "MEDiocria firma."
In fact, this reminds me that Gorgons were depicted with hair like snakes as well as hair like worms, and so where 'Mediocria firma" goes to worm-like Vrm, it may speak of a Gorgon trace from he to Worms of Germany. One can also go to Gorm, the Dane family married by Sugaar-suspect Sigrid the Haughty, and so by what coincidence do the Haughts use the Beak / Humber bars in colors reversed? The Amazons of Trabzon did marry Gargarians.
As Angusta was found to be around Trojan entities, it now speaks of Gorgon Muses from Parion/Parium, and so note that leopard-using Caens use a motto term honoring Parium. I'm sure of it. Caens are suspect with the Khyan Hyksos. I've read that Khyan and Apachnas were identical men, and so let me repeat that Bachs and similar others do trace to "APACHnas" without doubt.
English White's/Weights use leopard faces and the Mercy/Maisy dragon head. The other Weights use the Traby bugle's. But Irish White's look like they are using the Desmond/Demon / Christ = Caesar roses. The latter White's "agus" motto term suggests the Gusts (suspect with Wessels/GASTells), who share a red-on-white chevron with these particular White's.
The Christs are suspect from mythical Chrysippus, the very one to which I was Instructed to trace the Benjamite-Jabesh crew. Christ's come up as "Chriss," and Chris'/Christmans were first found in the same place (Hampshire) as the Atreus-line Atrebates. Chrysippus was made a half brother of Atreus. As Atreus' son married the swan line, it's notable that the Chris/Christman Coat uses a large swan...symbol of French Josephs showing until recently, important because English Josephs were likewise first found in Hampshire.
The Yule's were in Yell (Shetland), a term like "Gel," that latter being the Gileki Iranians to which I traced the Julians. But years before that trace, the Gels/Gileki were claimed as the founders/namers of Cilicia. It just so happens that Chrysippus represented a Chrysippus location in Cilicia. Moreover, in all the times that I've mentioned the Elis' above and below, I had forgotten this: "In Greek mythology, Chrysippus was a divine hero of Elis in the Peloponnesus, the bastard son of Pelops king of Pisa "
It also seemed reasonable that the Gileki named Colchis, and for this idea. MEDea, the daughter of the golden-fleece Colchian king, seemed to play well, for Medes were kin of Iranians. As Medea and her family were depicted in myth with a golden ram, it links excellently to the golden lamb of Atreus. It was as if to say that the Atreus lamb grew older and flew (migrated) to Colchis.
With Fermins traced to the Stura river of Cuneo, one wonders whether Varni were named after Vrm- / Worm-like terms long before Vrm of Angusta. It makes sense because the wyVERN dragon seems to be code for Varni who had ANGles as their fellow tribe that can be traced to Angusta. But there is also the Gel/Jell surname using a bend in Varn-bend colors, and first found in the same place (Yorkshire) as Fermins. Julie once claimed that "Alan" meant "snake," or came to mean so, and so because the Fers/Ferrats trace to the naming of Ferrara, its previous name of FORUM Allieni may have named Fermin liners. With the Gel surname looking like a Varni family, it traces easily to the Gela location of southern Sicily, the namers of which are traced by Wikipedia's Agrigento article to the founding of Agrigento (may have named Argentera on the Stura river). It just so happens that wyvern-using Drake's trace to the Drago river flowing to Agrigento.
Moreover, the Craigs trace to an earlier version ("Akragas") of "Agrigento," but they are also tracing as Carricks to Sarzana...and Saracen surname in the colors of the Varns. While Carricks (same basic consonants as "ARGentera") use a black talbot, Gels use a black greyhound. Italian Angels (could be using the Guerra bendy in someone else's colors) use the lion design of the FORMan Chief in their Chief, but while the latter's is gold (and in the colors of the same-positioned Brunswick lions), the Angel lion is a darker gold = BROWN. The Angles were first known of in the Brunswick / Luneburg theater (about 300 AD). The Formans are the ones using the green-dragon design of the WORMs, and moreover they share anchors with Fermins, while the Anchor/Annacker surname (suspect with Anaki from Hebron) uses the Shield-and-Chief color combination of the Arms of Agrigento. The red bull in the Anchor Crest must be that of the Chiaro's/Claro's, tracing to Montechiaro between Agrigento and Gela, but first found in Ferrara. As the Montechiaro line traced to Ceva, it's a good bet that Agrigento elements did go to Sarzana as Saracen liners, who would come to live as Saracens proper in the Gela area of Sicily.
It just so happens that German Gels/Geels were first found in Hamburg (i.e. Luneburg theater), important for proving the English gels are using the Varn bend. German Gels use the upright lion in the colors of the same of Massins/Masons, but with a round tail, as I call it, the symbol of the Gate's whose Coat will be traced to Neamt in a very-interesting find later (likely in next week's update). This Neamt location will be clinched as the proto-Numidians along with the Neame/Name surname that shares lions in the colors of the Gel lion with yet another relevant surname. All interesting and important for understanding the dragon bloodline to Freemasons prior to Massena. English AnGELs are in the colors of the Gel lion. End insert]
I'll finish with the insert above now, and get back to the Pisa lion = the Dougal lion. Irish Dole's/Doyels are said to be from "Dubhghaill," what easily becomes or squares with "Dougal," and they happen to use the red stag heads of Colt/Cults, now known to be Cottius liners. That again finds Cottius liners in the Varni theater i.e. with German Dols. However, the DubhGHAILL term can go to the Gillian variation of Douglas-related Julians, and let's not forget that French Julians are showing part of the French Alan Coat. I would suggest that Dougals and Douglas' were Julian liners with some surname variations reflecting Dol because the latter, as early Julians, connected with Alans that would pass through Dol.
Again, I traced the Stewart Coat years ago, long before Julius was a topic, to the Massi/Mathis Coat, and later found solid evidence for tracing the latter to Massa at Carrara, but have only now, first time ever, realized a trace of Dougals (and Gerards) to Pisa and Carrara...thanks to the Dougal lion...now suspect with the German-Gel lion. A Dougal link to gels is important for explaining the DuGLASS variation of Douglas', and why Alans of Dols moved to GLASgow in Rainier-suspect Renfrew. One can guesstimate here that the white color of the Dougal lion connects with the Raines / Montfort lion. I have no idea whether the Pisa lion was adopted by Pisa's before or after Rainier of Montferrat, but it's got to be the Caepio-line lion. A hint that Caepio's were in the Varni fold is where Quinns share the pegasus with English Angles sharing a gold Shield with Quints.
The red stags of Irish Dole's/Doyels is important for once again hinting that Julius Caesar and Cottius both had something to do with Pilate's mother.
German Dole's are using the check colors of Jewish Marks'/Marx's, but on a green Shield, the Shield color of check-using French Marks. Both Marks are using a version of the Stewart Coat. Why are Marici / Marsi liners connecting with Dol's Alans? Because Marsi liners are more important to Freemasonry than Masseys. They made it as the Martel royals, followed up by Capet royals from Worms. The latter ruled (or had powers) in France into the modern age of "Illumination." English Dole's were first found in the same place (Cambridge) as Julians/Gillians. It's no longer a guess that Alans of Dol trace to Julius Caesar, and, like Carl Marx, the Stewart Illuminati wants to dictate the world to the world.
As the Benjamin Coat looks like a version of the Walsh/Walch Coat ("numine" motto code now traces to Neamt on the Siret), consider a "WALCH / Wallachia" trace to mythical Turan at VELCH, near Italian Pisa. I read that Turan was a witchcraft cult. The Italian Fulks, first found in the same place (Tuscany) as Velch, are using a version of the Massi-Mattis Coat. Having said that, just trace the pegasus of the Massey-Marsi liners to the English-Angel pegasus, and from the Angles proper to the naming of Angers and Anjou, where Fulks became counts. The fundamental link between Masseys and Marsi lines expects that ANGitia was in this migrational path.
Recalling that Marsi on the Salto trace to the Salyes Ligures, by what coincidence is the Shield-and-Chief color combination of Anger that of the Saluzzo surname (Saluzzo is in Cuneo). The lozenges of Angers are colors reversed from the English-Angel lozenges. The Anger Crest is a so-called "escarbunkle," symbol of French Rays that can be suspect with the Raes'/Eras'/Rasmussens.
For aside value, I'm noting that the English-Ray write-up calls Dumfries by a "Dhun PHRIS" term, very suspect with the Ray surname using three white-on-green stags in the positioning of the three white-on-green horses (= Quinn pegasus and McCaffery horse colors) of Frey's/Free's/PHRESE's!!! The latter were first found in the same place (Essex) as Angers and Quints (and Vere's), and that squares very nicely with the English-speaking (i.e. from the Angles) Frisians. It looks like Dumfries traces to Frisians. The Freie's (Germany) are probably using the lion of German Gels, but must definitely be using the lion Massins/Masons with a "DUM" motto term. Therefore, with the Massin/Mason link all-the stronger now to Freie's and Free's, the FREEmason term is more suspect as mere code, nothing to do with masonry workers.
The Phreeze variation of Free's smacks of "Pharisee," an important component of the Caiaphas-to-Varni theory. It looks like the Anglo-Saxon circle of families, including the Jutes and Goths, were from the Cottius-line merger with the Julian line that I say produced Joseph Caiaphas. The Gels of Gela might just have named the Gauls, which would make them kin of Julius Caesar if "Julian" traces to Gela elements. As the Julians proved to trace to the Yule's at Yell, note that Yello's are in Varn colors and first found in Oxfordshire, where Vere's ruled for centuries. The Yello's even share the black fesse with Yule's. Therefore, Julians are tracing to far-north Shetland, home generally of vikings. Why? Should "SHET" be traced to the Sched/Shed liners that named Scotland? The potent cross of Scheds/Sheds traces to the Putna river on the Moldova - Wallachia border.
The "Auspice" motto term of Walsh's can now go to "La Spezia," but lets also investigate the MalaSPINA family of Massa, for a "spina" to Italians is something like a porcupine quill or SPIKE, and the "AuSPICE" term can relate because the Massa area had an Apuani peoples (Ligures) at an AUSer river (now the Serchio) with a mouth near Pisa. Shouldn't we expect Moldova elements at Pisa just because both had the dragon cult passing through? But I say that the dragon cult in Moldova first passed through the Numidians before reaching Pisa. The "numine" motto term of Walsh's speaks to a Wallachia / Neamt trace to Numidians, and the Newman lion takes us to Rainier of Montferrat. Rainier's son had a daughter, Agnus, with a name like the variations of Italian Angels, and then while Agnus married Guido Guerra III, the Italian Angels share a bendy shield with Guerra's.
Scheds/Sheds were first found in the same place (Yorkshire) as English Angels and Varn-related Gels, and that tends to make a Gel-of-York link to the Yell location in Shetland. They say that York was founded by vikings. The Guido's even share the hourglass Shield of Sched-related Skits so that Guido and Italian-Angel liners are expected in Shetland. As Angles are now discovered in Dumfries, that's where the Pike-related Geds had their start, and the Scheds happen to share the patee cross (symbol for Patch kin of Dumfries' Kilpatricks) with the same-colored ones of Pike-suspect Peks/Pecks. One could reason here that Geds (on the Nith river, river of Kilpatrick castle) later developed into the naming of the so-called Guidi of northern Italy. The Geds did develop into Geddes in Nairn, where they were merged with Bosco's that trace to Busca at Saluzzo, and then the Angers use the Saluzzo Shield, apparently. If Agnus of Montferrat was an Anger liner, then Rainier's ancestry seems to be in Anger / Angle liners...i.e. which can expect him in Angle-related Dumfries, which is where we do find his lines.
The patee-suspect Patty's happen to use the Raines' lions, and the Patty Coat is a version of the Coat of Nitts of Dumfries (likely Nith-river elements) likewise using the Raines lions. As PATTys were first found in the same place as WATTs, the two look like branches traceable through Witkowo elements all the way back to the Wheats of Wessels.
The Naught and similar variations of the Nitts just caused "Naggy" to jump into my head, and Naggys/Natz's happen to use a stag in the white color and roughly the position of the same of the Dumfries Rays (!), obvious kin of Free's/Freys/Phrese's. That clinches the Frisian trace to the naming of Dumfries. It just so happens that the Franks use the white-on-green of the Ray stags and Free horses, as well as a "nati" motto term! The Franks share a saltire in the colors of the Blate and CHAPman saltire, both surnames of which traced to FIRMINy at Saint. Etienne.
A trace of Chap lines to Dumfries is not small potatoes in light of Annandale sitting there. Agnus' (smack of "Annas / ANANias) were first found in the same place (Naple's) as Italian Capone's/Capua's, and then Spice's are showing a Coat like English Capone's, first found in the same place Julians and Chapmans. What is there left to understand?
The Spice (chevron colors reversed from Cabbage chevron) and Spine surnames look much alike. "Spike" gets the porcupine-using Specks/Spocks suspect with Syphax lines at La Spezia. The Spine's/Spinners happen to use three crescents in colors reversed from the same of Saracens/Sarsons (black wolf, gold collar), a surname reflecting "Serchio." There is also a large Seravezza area beside Massa, and near Serchio. The Fulke/Folk motto term, "sera," can go to this entity.
If we are convinced that Spine's are a Spice branch, the "Auspice" term can be viewed as code for the Auser-river Saracens, kin of Malaspina's. The black Saracen wolf should be important to the black talbot of Saracen-suspect Carricks (in Saracen colors), and this tends to trace the Kerricks along with their suspect kin, the Melusine-using Prestwicks, a location in Ayrshire...where Carricks were first found. As it's the Walsh's using the Auspice term, a trace of Walsh's to Sarzana area makes the Walsh swan suspect with Savona lines. As Ceva is only about 20 miles from Savona, it could indicate that "Savona" and "Ceva" are related terms, both tracing to "Sevan." In that case, the Cavii (who lived near lake Lychnidus, suspect with lake Sevan) were named after Sevan...where the Sadducee-like Soducena location sat! Let it be reminded that there is a Saveni location on the Baseu river of Moldova, which makes it near the Sitna, thus tracing to the Savena river beside the Setta river, the area of the Guidi.
Carricks are suspect from the so-called "nickname" of emperor Caracalla. His brother, Geta, became suspect with Geds on the Nith. Caracalla and Geta were in Yorkshire about 200 AD, fighting some peoples in Alba. A Caracalla link to Carricks tends to trace him to Agrigento/Akragas, and this is logical where his father's family was from north-Africa and related to a Geta character down there, meaning simply that Geds look like Getuli Numidians. But the point now is that the Gate lion is in the colors of the same of Hungarian Naggys (Hungarians explain the stag of German Naggys), a line that just proved to be to/from the Nith river of the Geds. This Gate lion will go far for helping to understand the twisted line of the dragon track from Neamt.
The Sarks/Surreys/Surrichs share a gold Shield with Carricks and Saracens, and were first found in the same place (Devon) as Spice's (and Chives' who trace to Ceva). We already came across Surrey elements when discussing Luna (modern Luni) near La Spezzia. The Shere's and related Shurs/Schere's, for example, both in Saracen colors. They can possibly trace to SERAvessa. I had nothing to say on the Serge's/Sargeants (looked up as per "Serchio") until finding that they use the colors and format of Sure's/Shore's (more holly, symbol of Cabbage's), linkable to Shere's via the Kilpatricks/Sheera's. This recalls my insistence that Kilpatricks (related to holly-using Maxwells) trace to Italian Botters (little evidence, really), and here we are with the river under Auser discussion flowing though Lucca, where Botters were first found. Were the House's/Hauss' at the Auser? Was it named after the Has location in the Cavii theater? By what coincidence is Ceva near Busca while the Hausers/Howsers use the Bush/Busch and Bos/Bosch fleur-de-lys???
English House's/Howes'/Housers use a WHITE-ON-GREEN cross in the colors of the Chapman / Frank saltire, and that gets Auser lines feasibly to the Naggy/Natz surname (WHITE-ON-GREEN rose, probably for the Rose kin of Bosco's and Geds) on the Nith. As the House/Hauss surname uses cabbage leaves, it appears that Cabbage's can be traced to the Auser. Zowzers, what does this mean? Benjamites were on the Auser. Just ask the Walsh saltire and annulets. Or ask the Cabbage's themselves, suspect with "Jabesh." Can "Cavii" trace both to "Sevan" and "Jabesh"? Of some interest here is that Jabesh GILead was in the Jordan theater of Biblical king Sihon, suspect with the JEBUSite's in Zion.
Alternatively, "Cabbage" can be a "CAIAPHAS" variation.
The surname using the Maxwell holly and stag is the Islip, kin of Hazels and House's. Again, while Hazels call their leaves "slips" in honor of holly-using Islips, the House's call their identical leaves, cabbage leaves, in honor of holly-using Cabbages. To prove the mythical Holle is in the heraldic mermaid, and that the mermaid is indeed Melusine, the Myre's/MIREUX (Anjou, where Drakenberg Vere's trace Melusine) use holly (though their symbol at houseofnames has been changed to a myrtle tree) and meanwhile represent the MIRROR held by the mermaid.
Let's re-address the Elis surname, first found in the same place as Gels, and let's assume that Elis at Pisa was named after the Gel/Gileki Iranians, whom were merged with Cadusii Armenians at mount Sion and nearby Kadesh. The Cabbages are using fleur-de-lys in the colors of the Elis fleur, and it makes good sense to trace Benjamites to both entities. Might "Gilead" trace to "Elis." Was Gilead the line to Gela and the Julians? Don't Jabesh-ites trace to the founding of Romans at the Una/Oeneus river, where Youngs trace who use a "juene" motto term for June's/Jungs/Juen's, first found in the same place as Chapmans, Capone's and Julians/GILLians? (consider linking the white stag of German Jungs to the same of Naggy's/Natz').
As June's/Jungs use fleur in colors reversed from the Cabbage fleur, were Cabbages a branch of Chapmans? After all, the Chapman crescent is the Luna crescent while the Auser flows near Luna. Why do Cabbage's use a chevron in colors reversed from the Capone / Spice chevron? Doesn't that link the Auspice term of Walsh's to Capone's as well as Cabbage's? Why are Quintus-Caepio elements now being discovered on the Auser? A trace to Cavii at the Ha location would explain it. (I don't know what the ancient name of Has was). Consider that Pendragons use fleur in colors reversed to the cabbage fleur while Pendragons trace to Penestae. On the map below where the Cavii and Penestae are shown (center-left), Has (not shown) is on the Drilon river to the north of "Cavii." Lissus (of the Lys/Lisse surname sharing white fleur-de-lys with Cabbage's) was at the mouth of the Drilon. In this picture, "Cabbage" traces well to "Cavii."
Irish Hollys/Cullens use the mermaid with mirror. The English Holly Coat is in the colors of the Cabbage Chief, of obvious importance for making the link (what else can the Cabbage holly represent?). When first suggesting (in this update, never before) that Cabbage's were from the Benjamites, I didn't know that Hollys were first found in the same place (Norfolk) as Benjamins. The "ReBUS" motto term of Cabbage's must be for the Bus', first found in Norfolk. The Benjamite-suspect Pembroke's use "Rebus" too. Uat's more is there to understand?
It's all from Moldova
Norfolk is also where Seagers were first found who trace to a snake god (Sugaar, married to Mari) suspect with the Angitia snake cult of the Marsi. And this is why it's so important to know, what I didn't know until this update, that Cabbage's use an "angustis" motto term. I am now convinced that Benjamites were the worms at Angusta.
The Angusta location on this map is to the east of where the Aluta (modern Olt) river does a loop. Angusta is shown far to the east of the center line of the Carpathians, closer to the Siret (marked Hierasus) than to the mountains, in the map below. It's between a major Siret tributary and the Siret, and works out to be in Vrancea. An Angusta trace to PANCiu (in Vrancea) would be fodder for a trace to Pincum across the Danube from Moldova Noua (at mouth of the Pek).
I can't recall whether the Cotesti village of Vrancea was mentioned. Panciu is on a Susita river reflecting the Susa capital of Cottius. Wikipedia's short article on Vrancea: "The main tributary of the Siret River, which crosses the [Vrancea] county, is the Putna." I would think that Angusta was on this river, very logical where lines of Israeli priests trace to the potent cross. There is a Lepsa location on the Putna that could be where the Lapith-suspect Lepidus surname had origins. The neighboring Coza location smacks of the Goz surname traced heavily to Cottius, and "Coza" can explain why, as it might be a Cotesii term. The Cosy surname is listed with Caseys using a cloud in Crest, symbol of Ixion, the Lapith ruler. The cloud is also in the House surname that can link to Cabbage's with the Angusta-suspect motto term! Auser-river peoples were from the Angusta / Putna theater, weren't they, where AUSpice-using Walsh's/WALCH's trace.
MOREOVER, the Cosy/Casey write-up speaks of a family branch at Oriel!!! Is that not the family of Aurelia Cotta??? And look: the Oriel/Orrell Coat shares torteaux (red roundels, in Casey colors) with the Cabbage-honored Holly Coat!!! Both surnames use their three torteaux on white bends.
Now that the Holly cult of Cabbage's has traced to Lapith suspects, see Holle in the Lapp/Leap surname. Ask why Lapps are listed with French LePage's (share a white lion with Cabbage's, may be using the Donnas/Dance bars), first found in the same place as Chappes'.
Julius Caesar, from Cottius' ancestors, had an affair with a Servilia Caepio, and her daughter married Lepidus, suggesting the Lepsa location in alliance with the Coza location, but as Caseys had been suspect as Caesar liners, CAESARs might actually trace to the namers of Coza. In fact, while yet ignorant of the Cottius-Caesar merger, I traced proto-Cozars/KHAZARs to early Caseys (whatever they were called, I did not know at the time)...meaning that Khazars may be from the namers of Coza.
Italian Lapi could be using the Alan Shield in colors reversed because the Lapi trace to Vis-de-LOOP. The Loops can be gleaned as using the sleeping moon of Roets because there is a Gres location beside Lepsa and Coza. The Roets are said by Wikipedia to be from the Groys or Croys (I can't recall which), and Croys are listed with Greys, honored by the Loop greyhounds, and suspect with the Gres location. Recall that Greys are using the Shield (and white lion) of Jabesh-suspect Joplins, for Cabbage's are suspect with Jabesh elements. Recall also that Cabbage's had linked to the Caiaphas-suspect lines using anchors, for Greys/Croys use another anchor and two "anchor" motto terms...tracing to Anchors/Annackers at Gela-founded Agrigento. The Gras/Gress Coat shares a black-on-gold lion with Lapi's.
If correct that Coza was a Goz entity, it can be added that I've seen Richard Goz as "Richard Gois," and then the Gois/Gyse Coat appears to use a version of the Coat of Quince's, first found in the same place as Cabbage's. It once again argues for a Cabbage link to Cavii (where Caepio's are expected). Richard Goz was the father of Hugh D'Avrances, and "Avrances" was already traced to "Vrancea." That's a great argument for Goz origins in Coza. The Goz Coat even shares white-on-blue stars of Cohens/Kagans. The Gois Crest appears to be the same swan as per the Walsh Crest.
The Quince and Gois Coats look like versions of the Rouen Coat, and Rouen was in Normandy with Avrances. The Vrancea locations above are listed at Wikipedia's TULNici article, and so check out the Tolners and Tolls/Dols (compares with German Dole's from DOLLENdorf), asking if Tulnici had anything to do with the Strange line to Tools and Wallace's, all three sharing the white lion with Cabbage's. It recalls the Dole's/DOYLE's suspect with white-lion Dougals.
The Dollens/Tollens share seven lozenges with the Gois Coat, and what could be the red Alan fesse, very suspect with the August fesse in this picture. English Dole's/Dollens, first found in the same place as Julians (important because French Julians share the French-Alan stars), share white fleur-de-lys with Cabbage's, but then the Lys/Lisse surname (from the Lys river near the Montreuil, location of Roets) uses both the white fleur and the greyhound design of Roet-suspect Loops. Irish Dollens (the Voir/Voyer lion as well as a blue lion) look like Panico's/Panetta's, to whom I traced the Roet oak tree. See also the Panico-suspect Paine's showing the Tool / Strange lions.
Tools/Tooleys were first found in the same place (Leinster) as Dollens, and Leinsters are listed with Leicesters, important where the Arms of Leicester uses the ermined cinquefoil of the Bus' honored in the Cabbage motto.
The line of Buz, son of Nahor, must have been in Angusta. Bus' can trace to Bush's, first found in the same place was Walsh-suspect Walkers. English Walkers (share annulets with Walsh's and Benjamins). Walkers share the "honesta" motto term of Gois'. German Walkers can link to the Loop symbols.
Aha! Finally, a white lion on black, the two colors of the Cabbage lion, has been found in the Beng surname (looked up seeking Benjamin branches), said to be from "Binningas." Aha! The Bink variation can suggest Pinks and Pincum, as well as Panico's. The latter can trace to Vrancea's Panciu location. Ask whether the Beng/Bing/Bink or Tolner Coats are a version of the Chives Shield.
The apparent trace of Panciu (near the Putna) and related elements on the Putna river to Panico's and Pinks tend to clinch the trace of Skits and Scheds to the Setta valley (home of Panico's). That trace was made repeatedly at the threat of readers rolling their eyes in disbelief, because the evidence would seem skimpy to them. All along, I had no idea how the trace could be proven, until now as per the potent crosses of Skits and Scheds. It is clinching a "potent" trace to "Putna." But it's beginning to look as though I was wrong in tracing "Panico" to a Pagan / Payne variation, even though the heraldic evidence is strong for Pagan elements involved with Panico's. Another theory now is that Panico's were from a version of "Benjamin."
The Page's (first found in the same place as Paine's), who look like Walsh kin, are possibly using the Pek chevron. The Page doves trace excellently to the City of Doves (Cuppae) on the Pek. Pincum at the Pek may not be a Pagan branch after all, but merged with it.
Where was my head until now, when just remembering that I linked the Cabbage-Chief lion to the same-colored one of the Baker Chief. It just so happens that the region on the north of Vrancea is Bacau. AND ZOWIE, the French Bacons use cinquefoils in Bus-cinquefoil colors!!! The "Rebus"-using Cabbages were of this Putna-Bacau picture. I had linked Bakers to Cabbage's (two or more years ago) because Dutch Bakers/Beckers (in Hazel / Dussel colors) use the House cabbage leaves. Expect Bacau elements on the Auser, and ask whether they were Pegasus liners to Masseys and Angels.
The Bachus/BakeHOUSE Coat uses hourglass, tracing easily to Trypillians, but even to the Skits of Putna-river elements. The Bachus/Bakehouse saltire could be the Scotland flag, therefore! The "Confido" motto term of Bachus'/Bakehouse's is used by Boyds...from the Bus-suspect Budini as they formed the Botters at Lucca on / off the Auser river! There is no need to walker you through this anymore. You have the rod to do the rest of the fishing to figure the rest out yourself. But I want to know more, anyway, just to see what kind of worms the shovel digs up.
German Bakers appear to be using the Dober / Doberman (and Jewish-Pollock) bend, the surname reflecting the "Tuebor" motto of Bengs/Bings/Binks. That trace's Benjamites to Dobrawa (Mieszko I's wife), who was suspect from Angusta's Vrm character. Dobers/Daubers/Teubers use the Botter bend, probably, but it's rising left to right, like the three others used by Massey liners. English Dobers look like Pike's from the Pek.
I ended the day after writing all the above. It was a long day. When I awoke the next morning, it started off by thinking about the Neamt > Numidian line, and the "numine" motto term seemingly code for Newmans...when it struck me that Newmans use WHITE-ON-BLACK lions, so perfect for the topic directly above (all mentions of Cabbage-suspect white-on-black lions, previous to finding one with the Bengs, were inserts into the update. The update to this point had been written in one day, but much was added). I happened to trace the Newman lions to those of Raines, and the Raines were traced to the Reno river, and therefore to the Setta, so perfect as per the topic directly above. Therefore, Newmans were from Neamt, on the north side of Bacau.
As Neame lions will be linked to the Bone lions, let me add here that the crossed "shin bones" of NEWtons are in the colors of the House/Howes' cross. The shin bones evoke "Skull and Bones" (Yale club), and then while the Skull lions are suspect with the Bone lions (both surnames use six lions beside a bend, the Irish Shinns look like they could be using a version of the Skull bend. The latter's bend is in Doberman-bend colors, and, moreover, Skulls were first found in the same place as beacon-using Fullers (Bacons and Fullers both use "Ferm/Firm terms for linking to Dobrawa's Vrm line), which begs the question of why English Shinns (share the three red bars of Fullers) are using what looks like a version of the Welsh Bach Coat. The answer is that these lines all trace to the Neamt-Bacau theater. English Shinns are also "Chynne" and similar variations suggesting Hyksos pharaoh Khyan, explaining why Newtons use a "Huic" motto term.
To help prove that the Newton bones are a version of the House cross, the "eastern prince" in the Newton Crest gets the same white-cross type as House's in the Prince Coat (pineapples in Crest). Newtons rate as Neamt-line Numidians of the Newman kind. But these New-using surnames are suspect first from Num- or Nem-like terms, wherefore ask why Nimo's/NEWmarsh's/NEMmoke's use the saltire in colors reversed from that of Prince's? The "show" motto term of Nimo's gets a SCHAW variation (of the Schore's) suspect with Shawia Numidians. The "boast" motto term of Nimo's gets the Cheney-suspect Boosts (BUCKingham) while "Cheney" and similar variations are likely of the Chynne variations of Newton-loving Shinns. Didn't president George Boost make Dick Cheney suspect with Skull and Bones?
President George Boost Jr. married Laura Walsh. If we ask why Walsh's should be related to Numidians as per the Walsh motto term, "numine," it's got to be the Massena factor all the way back to the Mus household of Benjamites and pharaoh Khyan. Or, Newmans and Wallace's share the upright white lion. Or, as Pollocks are now suspect by some from Fulbert "of Wallace" rather than from "the Saxon," consider that the Walsh Crest is a swan pierced through, similar to the Crest of Pollocks, first found in Raines-based Renfrew. If I was correct to trace Fulbert to the naming of Fullers, Pollock ancestry now traces to the Shinns/Chynne's. It's not much of a modification to turn the white-on-green saltire of Newtons to the gold-on-green one of Pollocks.
There's got to be a Moke and Mock reason as to why Nimo's are Nemmoke's and Nemmocks. The Moke's were first found in the same place (Somerset) as Shinns/Chynne's, who by the way, by their use of the Bachs symbolism, tend to express my claim that pharaoh Khyan was also Apachnas. German Moke's/Mocks (look like possible Mickleover / Mickel liners) are using a version of the German Naggy/Natz Coat (three commonalities as well as color matches), which is Newton-important because the Franks with a white-on-green saltire use a "nati" motto term. Thus, Franks were Newton liners in some way. One of the Frank surnames even uses the Pollock saltire instead of the white-on-green one.
The English Moke's/Moake's (their red crescent shared by Nimo's/NemMOKE's) can be understood as a branch of Maxwells/Makeswells (mother-stock of Pollocks) by their "Diis sunt" motto phrase being a match with "desunt" in the Arms of Macclesfield. The "neck chain" on the Moke/Moake rooster is code for the Chaine/Chenay surname using the Masci wing. French Mochs/MOUCHets, looking like they use the erect Chaine/Chenay sword (it once showed perfectly erect), were first found in the same place as Messeys/Messiers, and they smack of the Mussens/Moucons, Eras/Rasmussen kin. The Moch/Moucet sword may also be the Aude sword, and Aude's came to mind with "Auser."
That should be all for this update. Continuation next Monday, Lord willing. I'm armed with a solid understanding like never before on points of heraldic importance. The finish line is within sight. The light at the end of my tunnel is beginning to gleam. The enemies of Christ are being exposed.
The rest of the Gog-in-Iraq story is in PART 2 of the
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